The BJJ belt Gauntlet is a Joke

[@Thejokingspy2394]

Dude some jiu jitsu gyms are like a cult and god forbid you question anything

[@brownjenkin8422]

George Dillman makes his black belts run a no-touch gauntlet.

[@RamseyDewey]

That would be amazing if it was true! I'm going to have to make a comedy video on that topic one of these days!

[@demoniac972]

🤣🤣🤣

[@doaimanariroll5121]

They have to run with there tongue out and have toe spacers on to stop them blocking the no touch whips.

[@batou1976]

NIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!

[@Cody.Tafoya]

We always do an ironman or a shark tank for promotions. You toll with everyone from lowest whitebelt to highest belt. Great team building and you actually get to do Jiu-Jitsu.

[@pierrefoulquie6272]

I got my first stripe on my white belt a few weeks back, and God was I disappointed. All the white belt were summoned, the ones who got a stripe were called out, stood up, got their stripe and sat back. At the end, we were called to form the corridor to whip the 3 new blue belts. The teacher mentioned that the ones who didn't want to participate weren't obliged, but I was the only one to step aside. Many of us weren't even aware of this "tradition" and just gave a soft strike, while the more ranked practitioners were yelling at them to strike harder. The day after, one of the guys of had been promoted to a higher belt could not show up to train because his back pain kept him awake all night long. I just felt that one of the training session I did pay for was stolen from me, and that guy had two , I don't think this made any of us any better (and I've been told there are four of them each year...). On the other hand, in my capoeira club, each promotion ceremony I have been involved in has been an exiting moment : player are invited from all over the place, newcomers get to play with masters, promoted guys get to play a roda with all the guys that already holds the same belt (and sometimes, it gets harder then getting whipped on the back with a piece of cloth). I mean, it is the "most capoeira day of the year", whereas my first BJJ promotion ceremony was my "least BJJ day" so far.

[@RamseyDewey]

Yeah man, the capoeira batizado is cool! Because you do more capoeira- more of the thing you signed up to do. As it should be!

[@Shadowoftheoldones]

My gym does hard rolling (mostly positional) for up to purple and structured tests for brown and black instead of the gauntlet. I don't feel cheated by that, and I agree with your basic point. Getting a whipping for a belt is silly. If your belt is legit you'll pay for it in blood on the mat.

[@obiwanquixote8423]

"Never done anything violent" should be one of your new shirts

[@HotHeadGio-y5t]

"Getting slap by a little peace of cloth is a challenge?"such a savage burn😂

[@cchutney348]

"It ain't hazing unless you can't take it." This would be pretty funny if it wasn't so sad.

[@finelerv]

The second ceremony looked lovely.

[@RexWu]

My gym doesn't do the gauntlet, but we do a shark tank. If you get promoted to Blue belt, you do a 30 minute roll with the entire gym. 40 minute for purple, 50 for brown, 1 hour for black. Your thoughts on this coach?

[@RamseyDewey]

I love Shark tanks. At my gym we do shark tanks to celebrate birthdays, shark tanks to say farewell to people who are going to move, shark tanks just for the fun of it- it’s always a good day for a shark tank.

[@henrys3138]

Oh man, Ramsey in some martial arts hot water yet again. You know you're in for a grounded, but entertaining video when that happens. I'll never understand as to why people act so strongly about these topics. It's pretty dumb and ridiculous, and perhaps undignified. Seems like a lot of ego goes into the comments supporting it. We never had promotions or celebrations with the gauntlet when I was training daily though, it was a respectful and thoughtful atmosphere. Thanks for keeping it real, Ramsey.

[@jonashermes]

Many interesting points, I don't know if I'll tackle everything, but okay. I'm a 38-year-old Brazilian guy, I was a kid in the 90's and we did this in school. School kids were kinda violent those days where I grew up (30 km from Rio de Janeiro in São Gonçalo). This was called "corredor polonês" (Polish Corridor) practiced wherever there were enough boys together (schools, streets, funk parties). Now, I recently came back to BJJ and I found a cool place where the teacher is also a yogi, but aside from the zen part, there were gauntlets for promotions and for your birthday, I couldn't see the fun in it, everybody teasing each other about it as if it was a great test of phisicality. I always thought a real "gauntlet" would be rolling with the graduates in a non-stop fashion, that would be really a cool rite of passage, I hope I have my own dojo one day and I can do it as I like. Traditions are supposed to be questioned as everything else in life, that is the way we can check out things that are not good anymore.

[@dsgdsg9764]

I wish more people would understand the value of seeing something at its source realizing the source of it wishes it never came to be this way and actually acted accordingly

[@thejodyjourney219]

I saw one comment so far by someone familiar w the iron man. At Straight Blast Gym, they call an iron man belt promotion and everyone who comes spars w belt recipients. The head coach used to tie the belt on during the last match. But, then I made the joke that these students aren't fighting very hard to stop it. Now, they just put the belt on when they're done.

[@nappyheaded]

That boy probably isn't a student anymore. He probably would have been a lifelong student if it wasn't for the gauntlet.

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

Stuff like this drives away students

[@BMO_Creative]

I think they should do a dance off bro! Me and you! (reference Guardians of the Galaxy) LOL

[@ForeShadow20]

From the title I thought you were talking about the holding back everyone from going through ranks and just add a billion stripes on belts. From what I recall, a Black belt in BJJ is close to 10 years, where as most martial arts, 10 years is close to being instructor/master.

[@RamseyDewey]

A black belt in BJJ comes whenever you happen to get it. I spent 6 years wearing a BJJ white belt. 12 years wearing a blue belt. 2 years wearing a purple belt, and one year so far wearing a brown belt. Consistent training, multiple times a day, 6 days a week no breaks.

[@justinjex1]

Yep! The “gauntlet” doesn’t make BJJ look like a cult… nope.

[@alexanderren1097]

Ah yes, another “ancient” martial arts “tradition”

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

And they say my japanese jujutsu school is culty

[@nuclearchef-san8304]

Would be a better test to have the classmates use their bjj skills and try to throw/trip/choke you with their belts, so you can use your skills to truly earn that next belt..but the whipping gauntlet is hilarious!

[@lancepabon]

The gauntlet looks very similar to the right of passage of Klingons, according to the ST NEXT GEN. Look it up...😅

[@RamseyDewey]

Pain sticks!

[@lancepabon]

@@RamseyDewey yesss! 😂

[@RamseyDewey]

I actually referenced the Klingon pain stick ritual and made a replica in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZWWcpZujNCjncksi=dsnssJm4MUAd6Akz

[@Groteskfull]

5:38 "This Ramsey Dewey guy clearly hasn't done anything violent" Lol 😄😄

[@RamseyDewey]

Clearly. I’m completely harmless.

[@ItsTheJits_]

My gym doesn't do this. Our tradition after about 2 hours of rolling you have to 2v1 jiujitsu (survive lol) for like 5 min. I prefer it to getting blasted with a belt.

[@MartialArtUK]

When I went to bjj after already doing some and other Grappling, I didn't get any grades because I didn't sign up for the contract and buy the uniform, I already had a uniform. I was and still am good at Grappling. But when students did sign up and was totally green they would get a black tag for every class and then start getting blue belts , i didn't like that about bjj . The corporate pyramid scheme bit put me off for life . I still grapple done lots of Grappling for decades , still a no belt I'm happy about that but on the other hand less belts less respect .

[@ghostybroyo]

Shark tanks are the only viable celebratory challenge. Roll against the room leave tired and hungry and feeling like you truly earned it so there's no imposter syndrome.

[@matthewbailey9405]

I have a question I would be keen to hear your thoughts on, if the topic is of interest to you. For context I have only limited experience of what might be considered modern combat sport (my background is mostly 'traditional'). Since watching your content I have spent a some time looking up videos of high profile fights over the years, with a particular interest in how the sport has evolved. Probably somewhat predictably, much if what I have been looking at are the Gracies, and how their Ju-jitsu has influenced martial arts. Seeing some of the early fights and how people tried to deal with them vs more recent fights and the adaptions which other competitors have had to make is something which I have found fascinating. While going through these I have happened upon an individual who, while new to me, seems to be a pretty well regarded individual in combat sport; Kazushi Sakuraba. His nickname of 'The Gracie hunter' certainly makes for a colourful character, but what really caught my attention was a single sentence in his Wikipedia profile, describing his fighting style as "unorthodox". To reiterate I am a relatively new spectator of combat sport, so it is very possible I am missing something. In all the videos I watched I could see he is clearly very good but I couldn't work out what was meant by "unorthodox". MMA in particular seems to be pretty diverse in terms of the strategies, techniques, and styles participants use. I'm not even sure how you would go about defining what an orthodox style actually is. The sport also seems pretty fluid, with strategies and styles changing and evolving as new competitors bring different things to the table. I suppose my question is in two parts: 1. As an expert in MMA, do you think it is possible to define an orthodox style of fighting in the context of the sport (either now or at any point in its history)? Or are such lables of little meaning? 2. Regarding Kazushi Sakuraba specifically; was there anything particularly stand out or different about his personal style which distinguishs him from other fighters? If you were only able to see silhouettes could someone theoretically tell that one of them was Kazushi Sakuraba, based on how the competitors are fighting or moving? Thanks very much.

[@NathanAGoss]

Many of us fellow vets that run into a guy like that Marine? We have a name for guys like that... "Full-time veteran" No doubt he's a decade removed from his last day of active duty.....yet still hasn't done anything with his life beyond fixing tank tracks or whatever dumb motorpool job he had.... It's sad actually because it's clearly all they have.

[@basalvaro]

Ramsey, take a look at this new form of tournament called " Kombat Taekwondo ". It is like Karate Kombat. They do it in a cage also. It's gonna change taekwondo for the better. Take a look and tell us what you think about it.

[@christophervelez1561]

I did the gauntlet for blue and purple belt and it was fun. However that stopped because we had blue belt who wasn’t comfortable so my brown belt came without a gauntlet. Now that I own a gym I agree the gauntlet isn’t something that we should do. Too many liabilities plus there is a clique-ish nature to it. We had a guy that didn’t want to do it kind of get bullied into it by his classmates. And the military has gotten rid of a ton of traditions that are hazing because they don’t add to the good order and discipline. That guy who complained was probably full of nonsense.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

How bout just a pillow fight

[@Annokh]

Despite the setup, I was surprised that the guy in question estimated his student losses in hundreds. But then the example with that kid and his parents followed, and yeah. I can see how things like that have to be addressed with a lot of tact.

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

Doeing martial arts training is hard enogh allready no need to prove how tough you are by hurting students

[@gaurdian1560]

Should do a podcast on Driccus Du Plessis vs Sean Strickland.

[@justalittleguy12]

I stumbled on this post on instagram and was going to defend Ramsey's honor in the comments but it's good to see he's got it all handled here haha

[@RexWu]

Getting slapped by a belt means you're tough? I hope they never have to spar a Muay Thai guy lol

[@chobro-w7r]

Hey coach! I'd like your opinion on a hypothetical solution to weight-cutting and weigh-ins for professional fights. The problem; fighters want to weigh in as light as possible and are willing to cut drastic amounts only because they know they have 24 hours to re-feed before the fight. Other attempts at curtailing cutting (ie hydration testing) have only led to fighters finding other ways to cheat those tests. My solution: 2 weigh-ins. The first is 24 hours before the fight and the second is ringside right before they step into the octagon. The fighter must make weight both times or be disqualified. I don't think any fighter would be willing or able to maintain a depleted state for 24 hours prior to a fight. Hopefully this would lead to fighters only trimming to the lowest weight they are still comfortable performing. Each class will probably have to add several pounds to compensate. Initially I just wanted the single weigh-in ringside, but I know there would be some people who still try to go into a fight severely impaired. The first weigh in all gives the promotion time to swap in an alternate if someone fails to make weight (the alternate must also make both weigh-ins). What do you think? Am I missing something obvious?

[@Nick_Johnsons]

I made a video of this on Facebook. It's stupid and some people love it.

[@Pifagorass]

I saw it in six blades BJJ for the first time

[@blockmasterscott]

There is just no way I'd have that in my school. It looks bad for business.

[@cahallo5964]

most people just think it's funny and/or dumb, I've seen it quiet a lot. You can also say no in most places, it's just goofy.

[@ajshiro3957]

I'm sure there's someone who is into that😂😂😂 But it's funny hearing the silly traditions

[@Sbv-25]

“This Ramsey Dewey guy has never done anything violent” 😭 😭 😭 He’d probably say he’d defeat all the muggers during your Argentina trip if you brought it up

[@RamseyDewey]

Defeat them? He’s nuke them out of existence with one mean look from his eyeballs!

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

​@@RamseyDeweyno he d just lift up his rear and fart...much deadlier

[@Sbv-25]

@@DENVEROUTDOORMANNow that’s some potent no touch chi!

[@noeno17]

I think it should only be done for black belt

[@MonkeyFist]

7:50 i was thinking about it the same xD this is just a pice of fabric xD there is (our our days...maybe "was") a military tradition what was exactly the same... But instead of pice of cloth hitting you... It Was a heavy leather military belt (and if you had some enemys in your group then they would choose this "worse" end of the belt to hit you when you run the hallway). Sooo.... "Last Challenge" ?? Hmmm... Meh

[@micahtdoggknight9728]

thirst trapp, so thirsty for right and trad...humor is the medicine for unnecessary seriousness...thank you Ramsey for keeping it eel

[@Eternalnight198]

So I have a question. Do I have to "get out there" to train? Can't I just train in here?

[@RamseyDewey]

Here is there to you, there is here to me.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

No there is no here just in your mind

[@Sbv-25]

The Coach’s first gym was in his garage. So “there” can be anywhere you can get “out” to

[@RamseyDewey]

@@Sbv-25 I didn't even have a garage. It was in a room at the back of my old house.

[@GrinningNimbus]

The judo gauntlet is so much better. Get your next belt and everyone get's to throw you and you get to practice your breakfalls for different throws.

[@BigBWolf90]

I mean nothing wrong if it's done in fun like it was supposed to be but it REALLY *shouldn't be take that seriously.* There's dumb shit done in various practices but most come up as a fun thing to do between students

[@kingartifex]

you can't really win arguments on internet, even if you checkmate them THEIR OWN source, they will just gaslight or strawman the argument, result to name calling etc. People just want to save face at any cost, especially if its the official account of an association or company

[@kungfujoe2136]

it's actualy very fitting because if you use bjj in real life you expose your back with a lot of takedowns that are commen in bjj so training a bit of resistance can help in theory?

[@avinabbaruah9026]

My guy, Judo and particularly Ukemi waza are better training methods than a whipping session

[@dixonbuttes]

I love BJJ, but I feel like the BJJ community is so insecure about the fact that they’re not seen as tough that they just clutch to whatever they can.

[@josephshehan4969]

We never did anything like that?? are belts in rainbow color??😊😮

[@RamseyDewey]

BJJ and judo belts are white, blue, purple, brown, and black, in that order.

[@MysteriousPotatoe]

When is usdc seqson 2 coming out

[@RamseyDewey]

Ask Rokas. I’m not involved.

[@MysteriousPotatoe]

@@RamseyDewey ok cause I just finished number one and it was really entertaining

[@bolieve603]

100 man kumite

[@manuelzapata1192]

They should try that with thick leather belts Then there really be bad a**😂

[@BeamMonsterZeus]

$140/mo to attend the only BJJ gym where I live and each class, usually covering entry-level concepts, is $40 a 1.5 hour session. How's that for a joke? I actually don't know what an average rate for a small, low-skill gym is in the US, but it can't be that high without some real talent, right? Note: the many McDojos in town selling McDefense Krav McGa are far more popular, so perhaps it's a lack of competition.

[@RamseyDewey]

I dunno man, US currency has lost over 60% of it’s value since I moved to China. I was stateside over the summer and it cost about $140 to buy a snack at a gas station.

[@willspeakman2461]

​@@RamseyDewey If you would like to learn why that happens Broken money by Lyn Alden is pretty good.

[@GuitarsRockForever]

​@@RamseyDewey What? $140 for some snack?

[@BillyDHughesDrums]

True

[@milofitness7726]

Red Chucks channel was deleted from youtube and since you are friends do you know what happened ?

[@juanagustinjuannaz6143]

Looks fun tbh

[@Thejokingspy2394]

Yeah I did it when I got my purple belt we did it to be stupid no one made me do it lmfao.also it does hurt ngl

[@piotrd7355]

On the Internet, they hated Ramsey because he told the truth.

[@RamseyDewey]

The truth on the internet gets you cancelled, doxed, and ostracized.

[@Rikk1825]

At what point during a man's life does training become less about cultivation and more about preservation?

[@RamseyDewey]

Cultivation and preservation of what?

[@Rikk1825]

@@RamseyDewey skills and talents

[@RamseyDewey]

Probably when you stop learning and stop teaching

[@Rikk1825]

@@RamseyDewey Thanks alot

[@BWoodTTV]

I think it's pretty tame. Fun little thing to do that really doesn't hurt. You shouldn't be forced to do it but I see no problem with it. I enjoy it

[@pedroalexandredillemburg3751]

That joke video is highly inacurate when showing a Gracie Barra gym as the one who is "though".

[@KeithWickliffe79]

May as well call it a jump in. Well its clearly a ceremony of acceptance to me. Not necessary in my opinion. Lol at the absurdity of perceived masculinity

[@dsgdsg9764]

Hahhahahahahhah lol

[@shantanusapru]

🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌❤❤❤

[@nikm2106]

Man I just think its weird.

[@justin8865]

I like our shark tank better

[@beakfish7319]

anyone who says the bjj gantlet is a joke, has never actually done one. lol!

[@RamseyDewey]

Fabio Gurgel, the BJJ legend who started the tradition of the gauntlet said it was a joke and has petitioned people to stop doing it. Pay a modicum of attention please. We covered that within the first few seconds of the video.

[@BlueDongDroop]

The gauntlet should be a "tradition" you don't take too seriously, it makes sense that it started as a joke. Having done it at a gym where I was close with the people there it felt like screwing around with buddies. It really shouldn't be a solemn thing or a real right of passage, it doesn't make any sense that way.

[@nickolasdesouza3610]

I think it's a sexual thing

[@RamseyDewey]

There’s always that one guy out there for to whom it surely is.

[@ForeShadow20]

Seriously BJJ need to stop calling their art Ju-Jitsu. Although BJJ comes from Ju-Jitsu, it has become a huge difference. Similar to Judo, it comes from Ju-Jitsu, it is hugely different on the day to day practice.

[@RamseyDewey]

There are dozens of styles of Jiu-Jitsu/Jujitsu/Jujutsu. They are all very different from each other.

[@MartialArtUK]

Hey you think bjj business is hard try running a martial art that's slagged off by bjj mma coaches constantly on KZbin for their own business reasons . No gis to sell no tags to promote, the guys with the franchise schools are the ultimate mc dojos, no room for the locals , heck bjj guys even copy the brazilian accent. OK guys , let's do it guys , the ufc champ does bjj . Ufc is your sales pitch, when bjj gets watered back down to judo the better for everyone. Heck it's not even brazilian stolen from japanese its like re branding Toyota to something American. Masters of the sale bjj is the ultimate martial art cash wagon .

[@RamseyDewey]

Did you know American Jiu-Jitsu predates Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu by about 50 years?

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

​@RamseyDewey wait really

[@biggrrrlbjj5833]

@ramseydewey this brilliant 😂😂