The Black Hawks Replacement are Coming

In 2022 the U.S. Army will choose a new aircraft to replace its Reagan-era UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter. Two contenders from Sikorsky-Boeing and Bell will battle it out to become the winner of the Service’s Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft program and the Army’s next combat helo when it deploys in 2030.
The Defiant X will square off against the Bell V-280 Valor for the FLRAA contract in 2022, with Army aviation units receiving their first aircraft by 2030.
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[@USMilitary_News]

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[@nigeljohnson9820]

Nice of you to give the Taliban your old Black Hawks.

[@penelopelgoss2520]

Of course, our government will leave them behind, in tact, with the keys in them!!!

[@dundeeecroc]

They cannot fly them, they will sell them to china or Russia... who knows.

[@nigeljohnson9820]

@@dundeeecroc they may be able to fly them, as the US trained the Afghan army to fly them, and many defected to the Taliban. What they may not be able to do is maintain them.

[@samahmadoke8704]

@@nigeljohnson9820 . They can maintain them. China can built copy of Blackhawk include the components.

[@nigeljohnson9820]

@@samahmadoke8704 not sure if Chinese components will prove that reliable, but it is ironic than the Taliban are so willing to cooperate and befriend the non believer atheist Chinese. It will be interesting to see how they deal with a host of "Chinese advisors". When they come to take Afghan natural resources.

[@265justy]

Replacing Blackhawks!! 😂😂 There is still Hueys flying in the US military.

[@shilohgardner]

Good deal the Heuy was an amazing machine! Glad to see they are still around!

[@265justy]

@@shilohgardner There is a some saying in the US military...Cant remember when I came across it.. But it goes... When they fly the Blackhawks to the boneyard.. They will fly home in a Huey!!!

[@RandomGuy17768]

Josh, please don't stop what you do!! My wife loves your shows, if not you 😁, your expert knowledge and love of country is a rare commodity nowadays.

[@jesusislord6545]

Repent to Jesus Christ! “if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” ‭‭2 Chronicles‬ ‭7:14‬ ‭NIV‬‬

[@Marco1970_]

Amen

[@burddog0792]

Interesting note about the tilt rotor; the MV22 replaced the CH46 medium lift when I worked on it (basically a baby Chinook). It's a great aircraft, but a downside I remember is that it can't land in as small of a confined space. It can't be armed as heavily either. I don't think it would make much sense to replace the relatively small UH60 with a bigger aircraft which may not be able to have the same mission capability. This reason, in addition to the Defiant being able to share commonality with the Raider X, is why I believe it would make more sense and probably be chosen.

[@garyweston3269]

We left our Blackhawks to the Taliban. Now we need these new ones apparently.

[@josejalipano]

Like clockwork. Eat your heart out taxpayers, this is where your money goes.

[@wolfgangjr74]

Good luck trying to keep them flying. They aint no toyota pickups that can be maintained with bubble gum. They will break and then be worthless. Nothing of importance was left behind.

[@garyweston3269]

@@wolfgangjr74 my brother was crew chief for 101st airborne spec-ops. Nightstalkers heli group out of FT Campbell KY through Iraq/Afganistan and other lesser known conflicts. They could potentially fly for a time, but yes, without parts or expertise they likely won't last long. However it still doesn't detract from the billions in other equipment, arms, armor, munitions, armored vehicles that are now in their hands. Our soldiers are now potential targets by our own weaponry in Taliban hands. Massive failure. Massive incompetence.

[@gautambuddha147]

If a plane hits a high-rise building in the future, repair the building quietly. It is very expensive to chase the accused👉Pentagon ABOUT 6.4 TRILLION US DOLLARS 🎃🎃🎃🎃😝🤪🤪😄😄

[@garyweston3269]

@@gautambuddha147 exactly! And to mention that pentagon audit failure that quietly disappeared from pubic discourse. Conveniently a building containing many of said documents related to those audits just happens to fall directly into its own footprint in a nice and uniform fashion...at free fall speed...after having not been impacted by any aircraft :/ "they said pull it, so I said pull."

[@GNX157]

Please don’t let Boeing anywhere near these projects. They can’t even handle their current work and problems.

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Thank you, but yet they are still allowed to make things

[@GNX157]

@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 They shouldn’t be though. Only after they get their own commercial aircraft situation rectified.

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

@@GNX157 Yes, but for how long

[@frufrufrufru1999]

they can, not sure what your saying?

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

@@frufrufrufru1999 me?

[@SuperKillroy1]

As an engineer, I love seeing this stuff. I did work in defense for a good part of my career. As a taxpayer, I wonder if replacing the Black Hawk and Apache is a good idea given that defense continues to be the largest part of the discretionary federal budget and US spends more on defense than ~10 of the biggest countries combined. A good part of Defense spending sounds like corporate welfare to me. I mean look at what was spent in Afghanistan and look at how fast the Taliban took over.

[@PlutozReal]

Well when you think about how fast the taliban took over you need to consider the fact that we didn't control as much land as the media led us to believe. We'd been reducing our forces for several years and every time we reduced, the taliban regained ground. They mostly stayed out of the major cities but they were there just waiting outside. When we finally pulled out they didn't have to retake the entire country because they already owned most of it. They just moved into the last few cities. And when the Afghan government tucked tail and ran it was over.

[@SuperKillroy1]

@@PlutozReal , I agree that the military did not have as much control as public thought. This was really costly for a lot of people and I don't know why the US did not get out of Afghanistan earlier. The military also was responsible for a lot of civilian casualties. Some of this is just coming to light now and the New York Times and the Daily podcast have done a good job at holding the military accountable with investigative journalism with rights under the freedom of information act.

[@guffeluffe5987]

@@SuperKillroy1 The problem with the afghanistan war was that it was a war where we attempted to change the enemy and win their hearts. Not defeat and destroy them. (not saying i advocate for such a thing) but when you go to war you must be prepared to destroy your enemy. Not talk to them and hope they understand you suddenly

[@st3vorocks290]

Don't foget that our economy is bigger thatn the next 10 economies combined. As a percentage of GDP, we actually don't spend that much more than other countries.

[@Tsusday]

Low ground support helicopters like the blackhawk are utterly useless in a conventional warfare doctrine against an enemy who's well equipped and trained. RPG's weren't so accurate and their shooters had poor experience, but have a TD section fire it's Karl Gustav on a blackhawk and it's going down. Like nothing screams more "useless spending" than this kind of helicopters. Atleast attack helo require guided, heat seeking missile or AA batteries to take down and is much more agile.

[@fuffoon]

I love it. Its so beautiful I no longer care about quality roads or rolling blackouts, affordable health insurance or anything else applicable to daily living. Just keep doing those patriotic flyovers and all is good!

[@Killianwsh]

Lol! RIGHT! Well said Sir! It's not like 30% of ALL the money EVER printed by the US was last year & hyper inflation is rocketing down on us like the proverbial dropped piano ,eh ? Who the heck needs to eat, when we can feed our kids with B.S. patriotic rhetoric and exciting recruiting films!

[@roflstomps324]

Hey. Biden added all that into his Build back better. What? You think he forgot?

[@ChristoFreeze]

When China puts you in a permanent blackout those roads will come in handy. Plus you won’t need health insurance just a pilot

[@llisntcoolj2375]

@@ChristoFreeze China has its own financial problems at present, with evergrand defaulting on its debts

[@Skiamakhos]

Indeed, keep projecting power and fucking up developing countries that reject imperialism. Btw, haven't we seen Defiant X in Cyberpunk 2077?

[@smarakmohanta1445]

Both are great helis, valor would be probably best for cargo, para, and support roles, where defiant looks better for direct combat, combat support medvac roles

[@midgetman4206]

Huh, I see it the other way around. The coaxial design seems more capable of the heavy lift role than the Valor, while the Valor has the speed and enough maneuverability to do quick in and out missions

[@lostpony4885]

Defiant is better for both those roles. If the Valor has high speed use of its design as the claim states, it might be an amazing platform for killing jets. Cheaper in its role than needing the bestest jets.

[@midgetman4206]

@@lostpony4885 What? like kill the use of jets or gain superiority over them in combat? Because it could do neither. 1- this is a "jet". 2- turbines are used for a multitude of reasons.

[@raulrios9526]

0ppp

[@dianapennepacker6854]

@@midgetman4206 Valor all the way unless the flight per hour and cost is an issue. It does seem huge though, but I firmly believe tilt rotors are the future of VTOL due to physics. I did think it would go faster to be honest.

[@Red-jr9qm]

Had the pleasure of seeing the Valor doing some test flights during my time as a student pilot. I think it has the contract in the bag from its looks alone.

[@MyLifeInVideos]

It's to big . The other one looks better

[@lexioncombine9403]

I thought the same about the YF-23.

[@J0einOK]

Farther, faster, and carries more. But Lockheed has more pull within the Pentagon.Valor should win, but for corruption, which usually wins.

[@Biden_is_demented]

Valor has too big of a footprint. In a carrier, space is at a premium. And when talking about jungle insertions, space is again at a premium. Landing Valor in the jungle needs one big ass clearing. The other one is more nimble, and user friendly. Opposing rotors are a better solution. In bad weather they are more stable. Valor is probably a bitch to fly in high winds.

[@LyonPercival]

@@Biden_is_demented Will this also be the replacement for Sea Kings and Stallions tho? These are Army replcements for Black Hawks...

[@BaaSicStuff]

All those blades will need inspecting, man hours up, operational readiness down, profits up and it goes on and on . Helo's are nice but dam maintenance requirements are crazy

[@r.walters9990]

I agree with the last two comments. Does the military really think anyone wants to challenge this country? Our citizens have more assault rifles than most armies. We need to spend tax money improving the quality of life in this country. Im an infantry vet btw.

[@Tr3yM34]

That's why our enemies want to destroy us from the inside, turn us against each other And now we got politicians abusing our tax dollars, something's gotta change

[@jesusislord6545]

Repent to Jesus Christ! “if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” ‭‭2 Chronicles‬ ‭7:14‬ ‭NIV‬‬

[@DogSoldier1948]

Yes we have a lot of guns in the USA but we are purchasing ammo from foreign countries 😀 😉

[@larrycarns965]

That new helicopter is freaking awesome 👌 Sounds very aggressive and man is it fast!

[@mike7733m]

Come on now I'm not a engineering expert but the Army and other Joint Forces should get both of those aircraft not just one of them

[@frufrufrufru1999]

but the moneeyyyyyy

[@right-winglibertarian3896]

Are you going to pay for the extra one?

[@josephkool8411]

They'll be lucky to get one the way things are going

[@johnsteiner3417]

The issue is that it's more of a hassle to field, maintain and train for a wider variety of aircraft, which is why the army simply created a set of parameters and said, "Go," to competing contractors. I honestly think that Sikorsky generally does better in rotor wing design than Bell anyway, and so likely will win this round. NOTE: I'm not an expert on these either, but I've talked to people who flew and maintained helos in their militiary careers.

[@derp8575]

@@right-winglibertarian3896 We're 20+ trillion in debt. Let it ride until we inevitably collapse.

[@chris-hu7tm]

2:53 thats a cool effect when it flies by you

[@speedypete9694]

I feel the tilt osprey looking one is just extra wear and tear. Too many moving parts and room for error if hit but bullets or just crashes

[@johnkulpowich5260]

Too much maintenance

[@jacksonteller1337]

It is about time they choose one. If their tenders are this long each time they will surpass India as the most bureaucratic country. They are supposed to be in service around 2035 as the mainstay of the armed forces. But like the UH-1 the Blackhawk will be around for decades after.

[@enderdude5000]

E

[@ThatCarGuy]

Really love the enclosed weapons system. The Raider X lower RCS should really help as getting a lock will be a lot harder do to less shapes, so even though you can see/hear it radars will have a hard time locking onto it.

[@enderdude5000]

E

[@ThatCarGuy]

@@enderdude5000 ?

[@josephkool8411]

I have a really bad feeling they're going to choose the Bell which is more of a sidegrade than an upgrade

[@johnsteiner3417]

Enclosed weapons bays have their limits, which was one of the fatal flaws of the Comanche.

[@ThatCarGuy]

@@johnsteiner3417 Everything has it's limits... The RAH66 was canceled do to price.

[@Doomcharger]

Some of those concept designs are terrifying. Love it!

[@My2CentsO66]

Wild Bill sure is going to be happy! Knowing is half the battle! 🇺🇸

[@SixTenVisuals]

I'd trust the Coaxial lift over the Tilt Rotor type copter in the situation of a engine failure in flight.

[@generalrendar7290]

The V-22 Ospreys have an excellent service record, and the Valor is less complex than the Osprey. Drive shafts allow the 2nd engine to power the rotor of the failed engine incase a failure occurs.

[@cookiesupervisor2211]

@@generalrendar7290 Issue with Osprey /Valor is , that those are basically planes , and Air Force all ready killed AH-56 Cheyenne attack helicopter , cause it was to plane a like , I am sure that Defiant will win this one.

[@generalrendar7290]

@@cookiesupervisor2211 by that logic, the Defiant and Raider are suped up versions of the Cheyenne so they are likely more vulnerable. The Cheyenne competed with the Warthog, which is why the Air Force killed it. Now that the Airforce wants to kill the Warthog and the fact that the Apache and Cobra were able to conduct ground support while not making the Warthog irrelevant has changed this view. Also remember that the Airforce already uses the Osprey and has high praise for it. There is no 12-14 man VTOL/STOL transport and utility aircraft that these vehicles will compete with in the Airforce so they are fine.

[@cookiesupervisor2211]

@@generalrendar7290 Military hardware is not acquired with logic , but rather politics , and there is civil politics and there are military politics , military politics care about budget , and Air Force now day in 21 century , is need for close support , cause there are no wars anymore where fighter jets fighting , this is reason why V22 was bought only by Marines , Navy & Air Force ... but not Army , do you think that is not weird ?

[@generalrendar7290]

@@cookiesupervisor2211 I think that it had to do with the start and stop development process that the V-22 went through as to why the Army backed out. It was early in the development process. The Army is looking for Long Range in particular hence FLRAA. The Defiant may be a marginally better insertion vehicle, but it can't compete with Valor's range.

[@jurzyjohner432]

GOD BLESS AMERICA OUR MEN, WOMAN AND MILITARY.

[@LightCrasher]

I just love it. "Give us more money, this time it will work, we promise!" lol

[@TheyForcedMyHandLE]

Just by my first thought: If I was an enemy I'd rather see the Valor come over the horizon. It looks easier to shoot down than a conventional plane and easier to shoot down than a conventional helicopter.

[@francispitts9440]

I like it. Anything that enhances the safety and performance of our military is a good thing. I worked an MOS in the Marine Corps that had me in several different helicopters. I loved every minute spent in the CH-53E Super Stallion, Ch-47 Sea Knight the Huey. Those were a lot of fun.

[@jonsnow8550]

Thank you for your service sir. God bless you and your family.

[@trvman1]

You know what the biggest joke on this video is? The military won't allow for cost overruns :) Yea, right. Contractors KNOW they can screw the taxpayers because the Military always pays for the over runs, no questions asked. Have you EVER heard of the military saying, "OK< cancel the contact then if you can't produce them for amount signed at CONTRACT". NOPE, they pay and pay and pay, look at the F-35. What a money pit that plane is. ALWAYS need more and more and more. Like if after you got you new car and they say, "Hey, send us another 10 grand because the car you ordered is going to cost more" and you would pay it.

[@ahmednurali4156]

Mr private 🇺🇸

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

In triplicate still.

[@ahmednurali4156]

🥰

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Interesting, but to have them on standby it's always smart to have a backup in any case. I can feel it coming like the thunder chasing the wind I can feel it.

[@mysteriousfleas]

Keeping helicopters airworthy is really expensive, even just sitting there not being flown a helicopter's airworthiness declines much more quickly than other vehicles because of how they operate. Helicopters ride a fine line between being a useful tool and an absolute death trap based solely on how consistently and well they are maintained.

[@ryanquinn1257]

@@mysteriousfleas I’m looking at two rotors and dreading maintenance haha. I also imagine the area of operation of helicopters/Vto doesn’t help. They’re by nature landing where planes can’t go and low to the ground so all that dust dirt water just makes for even more regular maintenance.

[@zacbaker2696]

Love how the videos screen shot to get you hooked on the vid looked like a Halo WASP with a Apache rotor on top of it.

[@Get_Splooshed]

The best news about black hawks being replaced is that the marines will finally get black hawks

[@_J.F_]

Hard to imagine a world without the Apache just as it turned out to be impossible to imagine a world without the A-10.

[@k-tz5jg]

world will have the apache , its just u.s. wont .

[@richm0nd773]

that Black Hawk and Apache will be in the philippines soon so it is still not impossible you can still see it

[@JoshBryan]

The Apache and Blackhawk fleets will not be completely replaced by the new aircraft. In fact, the Apache isn't being replaced at all. The FARA aircraft is filling the void left by the OH58D Kiowa Warrior, an armed reconnaissance aircraft. The Apache is not designed to recon like the purpose-built OH fleet.

[@pihermoso11]

the B-52 will outlive us all.... apache and a10 are babies compared to the granddad b52

[@brendaevans1532]

Or a M1 Abrams Tank

[@jeffpir5166]

with such military might and sophisticated technology...goat herders with torn sandals defeated you in the most embarrassing way LMAO

[@r3ck17rick7]

1:48 needed a breath at the end there? 😂 well done

[@james.s.7449]

"Looks Great" Cant wait to see it at the UK Air Shows !!

[@ElenarMT]

The M2 Browning was first designed in 1918. It's still being used by the US (and others) across the world. 100 years later. MY point I tried to make in a previous comment, is that fancy tech and LEDs on everything isn't always needed. And to this day, the M2 Browning is STILL being used. It's an exceptional weapon that didn't cost no Trillions of Dollars to make and design. Point is, newer isn't always better

[@kindlytoxic1472]

You are comparing a gun to a helicopter that has to get in and out of an active warzone to save some lives without getting shot down.

[@codym2903]

The M2 is asked to do one thing, shoot. Apples and oranges.

[@levimullins5693]

"Cavemen killed with rocks, we still have rocks today. No point in making new tools." That's you. That's what you sound like.

[@pihermoso11]

there's a design flaw with helicopters like the huey and blackhawk, they require a tail rotor on the back to give them stability, they learned the hard way back in the 90's (black hawk down incident in somalia) that if the tail rotor is destroyed, you lose control on the helicopter.. the better design was that of the russian helicopter using coaxial twin rotor which eliminated the need for a tail rotor.. this design is incorporated in the new defiant heli, with an additional push prop for more speed, so basically this is progress.. i still remember back in that day, the 90's it was morning and i was about to go to school, cnn announced the death of 11 soldiers in somalia with the blackhawks crashing down etc... if the US can get a better helicopter than the blackhawk can offer, then its progress... no need to stay stagnant, the flaws of the blackhawk were evident on that somali incident

[@gianpaolovillani6321]

The UH-60 Blackhawk is a beautiful helicopter, I want it to remain operational for many more decades, and never need to be replaced from the useless defiant x.

[@Hanzlet]

Well i disagree on the useless part there are alot better stuff on the defiant x, i just hate the look of the defiant x it looks like a flying submarine

[@josephkool8411]

They're going to go with Bells entry you heard it here first. It's cheaper and our government needs more money fore homosexual indoctrination policies, But don't worry the Taliban will be flying their brand new free Blackhawks for decades so relax

[@01superduty89]

Uh60 will be around for at least 30 more years. We just did a ton of conversions for L to V

[@gianpaolovillani6321]

@@01superduty89 They will be around for many more decades, you mean?

[@gianpaolovillani6321]

@@Hanzlet I find defiant x useless.

[@sawittwo]

Was looking forward to seeing the Comanche. Beautiful attack Chopper.

[@brendaevans1532]

There is nothing beautiful about killing. Except for some of these people commenting.

[@CausticLemons7]

They're both super cool and I wish we could keep both. At 9:05 notice the change in landing gear and rotor tilt.

[@mysteriousfleas]

The problem with the Blackhawk is that it has always been a "make-do" helicopter, there have been some extremely impressive variants over the years, but it was always the minimum viable choice, that and the thing crashes a lot. That may speak more to the fact that they're an overworked asset of the U.S military and there's only so far you can push that platform before newer technology must replace it for a greater margin of safety and performance. We're now entering an era where all modern military hardware is going to start looking really weird and sci-fi'esque, it no longer looks in the way we would picture military hardware, that is having coarse features and being ruggedly designed.

[@Jacob_Overby]

@@mysteriousfleas these designs reminded Tom Clancy's End War, seems to be heading into that direction

[@rostyslavadamchuk3300]

What made Bell UH iconic, it's sound...sound of aproach take off and landing... the iconic sound ''We are Here!!!'' What made Black Hawk iconic, its appearance...symbolizing ''We are Here!!!''...what made Apache iconic... dusing, unique set of instruments, gauges and weaponry combined in a single hull!!! And what you want to get know? Faster, fourther, stronger..))) I think I know this one!!! Both models in reality look like VIP transportation vertical take off and landing aircraft good enough for Presidential transportation only!!!

[@DMunee1410]

Damn, is that "Stark" tech?

[@sebbekartellen6493]

:)

[@VoidRavenDC17]

Damn, the steering of new helicopters are looking more and more like sci fi assault spaceships

[@BoiledOctopus]

Being half American and half British. My American side is very proud to see this!

[@jonparsons6818]

How many are the 'Taly Ban' having?

[@supremesupreme8474]

... naci canibale ... taliban ... cannibal ... mount giluwe new guinea the cave of skulls ...

[@bobby_D]

As many as Joe Biden gives them. I’m sure he’ll get them a few when our other 85 billion in equipment is no good over there anymore.

[@wtsane5449]

Wow, won't the Taliban feel cheated with yesterday's tech?

[@mitchkatz4918]

but its free. how much did we pay for it and it depreciated to zero really? what a great value to get military equipment at top dollar and it depreciates faster than a new car driven off the lot?

[@nh6central]

They've already lodged a complaint with the UN.

[@geirbalderson9697]

Not to worry! Old Joe believes in equity. the Tallyban will get the upgrade!

[@KidSixXx]

Now we won't have to spend money demilitarizing out of service choppers. We can just shoot them down when we inevitably invade again.

[@TheLetsplaymine]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the similarity in the large and small version from lockheed might be a winning factor

[@nerdwatch1017]

Also I hope I live long enough to see our first Propulsive lift/land aircraft in use by our armed forces!!!

[@user-yj9lj5qx8u]

what a beautiful and beautiful helicopter made in the USA.

[@supremesupreme8474]

... remember here in canberra ! ... macarthur rose garden ...

[@user-yj9lj5qx8u]

@@supremesupreme8474 yes of course.

[@mdarks4117]

I remember the days the Comanche Recon attack helicopter (stealth) was a consideration, but didn’t seem to happen

[@blackhawk5903]

Yesss some one mentioned it...yeah what happened to that? i thought that was the future of helicopters....this one in the video feels like a step backward...

[@Travis_22]

Yep that thing looked so good...

[@markdavid4897]

Too expensive, and it couldn't do what they said it could do. Rumsfeld killed it for good reason. Another Sgt. York program in the making, when the USSR was already history.

[@bbsara0146]

The defiant X looks way more stable and manuverable.. The tilt rotor looks like it could have a ton of issues

[@eric.batdorff]

I agree completely. I spent 8 years in the Air Force, the Marines I worked with would refer to the V-22 Osprey as a flying deathtrap. Even though Valor has surely improved the major design flaws, I'd pick anything other than a tilt-rotor to fly on.

[@JJ-fr2ki]

I’d like to see a video on improvements to the procurement processes which are the sources of so many failures. Not as sexy as tech, but critical to reform. It seems from this video that you know about this. I’d like to know the details and your thoughts.

[@altortugas5979]

Inter-service procurement fights killed some great programs.

[@rowmk9735]

Both platforms look like they'll cost significantly more that the more simpler predecessors. You won't be able to replace 2000 black hawks with 2000 of these, you'd have to reduce fleetsize. Sometimes you don't always need a stepchange in performance. You just need new airframes with 0 hours on them, and where possible, simplified maintenance.

[@robertsothmann8110]

This is a universal truth.

[@DBZHGWgamer]

I think it really depends on performance. If the newer aircraft are significantly better at the roles they're being used for, and increase in cost is worth it. Besides, the older craft are cheap now because the designs are so old. Sure, a new vehicle can't match the cost per unit of a vehicle nearing end of service, but if you compare the overall cost per vehicle across the entire lifetime of the design, it could tell a very different story. Especially when you take into account the better performance of the newer vehicles. The US military is not nearly as dominant technologically as it was even 10 years ago, you can't keep sticking with decades old designs if you want to stay ahead.

[@Vagabond820]

Yah. They should never have purchased the Blackhawk as they already had the cheeper and proven UH-1 Huey.

[@HKim0072]

Drones and cheaper remote helicopters will be the future. Still need personnel transports though.

[@volairn70]

Just don't be the F35 of rotary wing aircraft.....

[@lukeskinwalker9335]

Damn, it looks futuristic. Each of these new helicopters is equipped with a Flux Capacitor.

[@BVargas78]

Looks pretty sweet! It's performance reminds me a bit of the sci fi ornithopters in the recent Dune film!

[@carabela125]

The Commanche was a great flying sim game. Virtually speaking, I had many successful missions flying it.

[@hiiamrick]

Wasn't the Commanche discontinued due to it's cost?

[@bazbuco]

Comanche Gold!

[@mlougee3172]

Hard 3 way choice. Low cost, super long range and speed, or super high maneuverability. I don't envy the people making the choice.

[@RIFFRAFF104]

I drive across FT.Bragg on civilian roads. I love seeing all those Blackhawk helicopters sitting on the tarmac.

[@Derethevil]

0:40 Looks like some played Halo Infinite and liked the Wasp design. I'm in.

[@tengkualiff]

So does that mean the Taliban can upgrade their's too? Great news!

[@Davethreshold]

LOL! That was the FIRST thing that I thought, just seeing this headline.

[@J0einOK]

That will cost a LOT of goats and opium

[@shanek6582]

What happened, we need new choppers because we left all our blackhawks to the taliban?

[@hssp1534]

lol..yeah

[@mysteriousfleas]

The talibs would be doing the U.S a favor by flying them, helicopters are extremely expensive to keep flying, especially in the desert, it would be the surest way to kill themselves by flying them without expensive maintenance done.

[@wolfgangjr74]

@@mysteriousfleas Hehe. I know right. Let them. Although i doubt anything secret or above was actually left behind. Its the usual GQP scare tactics and story making otherwise called lies that made it bigger than it seems. The gear wasn't even worth to blow up for crying out loud.

[@KidSixXx]

Let the Taliban bankrupt themselves trying to keep them running in a desert environment. Why do you think the new systems have retractable weapon systems? Because of lessons learned in Iraq.

[@ColeBenzo]

its 30 seconds in but good thing you told us there weren't gonna need roads, I was worried

[@boedilllard5952]

I used to work for Textron. The US government could probably cut costs by 50% if they broke up the development into smaller groups e.g. mid sized engineering firm designing the unit (let the government give requirements (e.g range, lift requirements, speed) but not the specs (e.g. x heat limits on fuel pump - their specs were often incorrect), small business in charge of gathering quotes, large construction group in charge of assembly with the original engineering firm in charge of quality control. The truth though is the politicians want the overspending as it somehow shows their concern for their consituents even though a huge percentage of that spending just goes to the top execs.

[@scotty5717]

😂 To be given away free to the enemy

[@isaymymind1727]

Vive les états unis;;; vive l'Amérique...lol

[@isaymymind1727]

The enemy will make spoons from the fuselages of those hélicopters

[@gautambuddha147]

If a plane hits a high-rise building in the future, repair the building quietly. It is very expensive to chase the accused👉Pentagon ABOUT 6.4 TRILLION US DOLLARS 🎃🎃🎃🎃😝🤪🤪😄😄

[@gautambuddha147]

United Kingdom RULES ALMOST HALF OF THE WORLD LOST IN AFGHANISTAN IN 1919 THEN COLLAPSED👉Soviet Union 1989 LOST IN AFGHANISTAN THEN TORN APART IN MANY COUNTRIES 👉 United States 2021 LOST N VERY THERE IS MORE USA Afghanistan is a graveyard for super powers

[@hemant05]

Bring them quick, because US army has left many black hawks in Afghanistan, in the hands of taliban

[@lazerbeamAndCo]

@Steve Lancaster Well...you voted him for a President, you get the perks

[@justinsane3909]

That rear propeller is an interesting concept.

[@vladk3079]

Black Hawk and Apache are legendary copters. Like them so much! Lets see what kind of replacements are coming

[@anthonygiaconia7880]

If they are retiring the Apache, can I have one?

[@KumaBean]

Can I come for a spin? 🍻

[@anthonygiaconia7880]

@@KumaBean sure.

[@gautambuddha147]

If a plane hits a high-rise building in the future, repair the building quietly. It is very expensive to chase the accused👉Pentagon ABOUT 6.4 TRILLION US DOLLARS 🎃🎃🎃🎃😝🤪🤪😄😄

[@connormoylan2466]

Yes we need next gen. Platforms but did we not learn from the F35, one air craft cant do it all

[@odinx7227]

Those new Blackhawks look awesome.

[@userbosco]

@5:00 Why is the "hinge" mechanism on the Bell tilt-rotar pixelated in the video?

[@davidwolf226]

All of these entries into the market are fascinating and, I'm sure, each will find a home with one or more of the services. Fascinating!

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Agree completely. Great choices all around. It will cost plenty but I'd say it's worth it. The forces should be provided with the best available.

[@enderdude5000]

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[@larsjonsson5527]

@@enderdude5000.

[@TitiniusAndronicus]

What the US military continues to fail to understand is that physical might only feeds the spirit that is resolved against the values that it represents of greed, lust, individualism and choosing leaders based on salesmanship skills rather than wisdom. If you engage in some genuinely spiritually nurturing practices from whatever source you like, then you will begin to be able to see a bigger picture and be able to find an effective solution.

[@frankcrawford416]

Well I think personally that our power is just a physical manifestation of our blessings from God. Along with our beautiful landscapes, our geography, our accomplishments like no other on earth Ever! We have been given alot. The Bible says from whom much is given much is expected. And we have given more than any other country on earth by far far. And I know we make mistakes but the United States remains blessed through all that because Jesus loves God's children no matter if they screw up. Really, why the United States has achieved so much in every way. Why, because of God. We have never lost a war, Ever! Yet, it is not because of the number of our horses or chariots, but because of God. The United States is known as The Wings of the Eagle in the Bible. We have many believers here. The Bible says "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." That is Jesus my friend. God bless!

[@almorris171]

What is wisdom? I strongly suspect most folks will answer intellect or education. Neither is the correct answer. Wisdom is the ability to combine ones personal experiences, acquired expertise, and overall awareness of all the factors involved in achieving and objective.

[@victorglaviano]

Uhhh, sounds like a poetic communist to me... Remember, jealousy and envy are powerful emotions, Shakespeare

[@victorglaviano]

@@Stephen-tq1jh yea .... US - 58,000 VN - 3,000,000 Estimated US - 2448 ACM or Taliban - 51,191 Estimated. Hate to see what winning looks like?? If you studied Vietnam, you would realize this, Afghanistan is still too fresh for analysis. Since in neither country did we go to conquer and take their land or anything. No communism in Thailand or any other Asian country, so no Domino fell.

[@dave4347]

The current helis are just so badass looking, just the sight of them is intimidating. You look at most of the new stuff and you kinda want to laugh at the cute little dolphin, despite the new modern tech and efficiency.

[@chrissinclair8705]

That blakhawk replacement looks like the Cheyenne project in the 70's with the rear propeller.

[@generalrendar7290]

With the quality of the applicants, I think that you could acquire all 4 models, I believe that they are different enough to accomplish the Army's goal. The Defiant is a much better Blackhawk and an amazing insertion platform, but the Valor is much faster and much longer range. The Invictus is great scout helicopter, the Raider is a splendid attack helicopter. They are all excellent designs. Bell has the advantage in FLRAA, Sikorskey has the advantage in FARA.

[@slashd]

Is a scout helicopter still needed in the drone era?

[@Rowrin]

Maintenance is the big issue. For every hour of flight time there are several hours of maintenance. Trying to maintain 4 different model helicopters from different companies with different parts is going to be a logistics issue in terms of training (both flight and maintenance crews), parts supply and manufacturing and increase maintenance costs. Imo, this is potentially where the Defiant X and Raider X could win out. Does the Valor really do anything significantly better than the current production Ospreys? To me is seems more of a horizontal upgrade, one that isn't a real generational change that warrants the cost of replacement. Tilt rotor craft also have a must larger footprint which affects how and where they can be deployed, especially in today's urban conflicts. Just this year a black-hawk had to make an emergency landing in a roadway in Romania with little collateral damage (a few street lamps knocked over). There just isn't the same space for a tilt-rotor attempting the same landing. Defiant X and Raider X looks like they would simplify production, maintenance and training while also accomplishing their intended roles and fitting within the same operational scopes as their predecessors.

[@generalrendar7290]

@slashd ever since Iran hacked into and stole a US spy drone, having a control point closer to the action is critical. Also if the war goes into megacities, or if satellites are targeted then you want to still be able to deliver ordinance.

[@generalrendar7290]

@Rowrin well the Army doesn't use the Osprey, the Marines, Navy, and Airforce do. You also have to think about the next battle spaces at near-peer level. The Western Pacific and Eastern Europe. Maintenance is one factor in a sea of other logistics situations. FOB, operational footprint, combat capability, and range. The valor is a more compact, smoother flying, less Maintenance heavy transport. The Valor is far superior in my mind in the Pacific Theater whereas they are almost evenly matched in the Eastern European theater. Which is why I suggested having all 4 and completely replace the Apache and Blackhawk, and Kiowa. The Valor is a superior medivac, while I'd give the Defiant the edge in insertion.

[@Jeremy-jw6nn]

@@generalrendar7290 The biggest advantages to the defiant that make me lean a little more towards it is the size, and lower maintenance costs. Also with already having the Osprey it wouldn't be far fetched to simply modify it and make an Army version. They're talking about all the branches using the Armies helicopters, might as well just ask for more ospreys for the Army and take the Defiant.

[@Accuaro]

Honestly you wouldn't have had to replace the Apache if you just went with the Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne, but alas politics and wallet aligned individuals always mess things up.

[@01superduty89]

Or if they just put weapons on the UH60. But I we have follow Geneva.

[@josephkool8411]

it was and is an amazing chopper, but it had a lot of issues at the time that would take too long to flesh out. It was ahead of it's time

[@johnsteiner3417]

The UH-60D was capable of doing everything an Apache can do while having greater range and the capability of limited rearmament between flight legs of the mission.

[@gautambuddha147]

If a plane hits a high-rise building in the future, repair the building quietly. It is very expensive to chase the accused👉Pentagon ABOUT 6.4 TRILLION US DOLLARS 🎃🎃🎃🎃😝🤪🤪😄😄

[@01superduty89]

@@gautambuddha147 why do you know how fun it is to fight for 20 years. You ever ever see combat edits. Worth it.

[@johnnywoods5549]

The coaxial one is exactly like a novelty toy I got over a decade ago, need I say more?

[@DunKirk1st]

I think it would be smart to use the wings as a stand incase of bumpy terrain for balance

[@victorglaviano]

Nah, shut up and get your ass moving towards the ramp!!

[@bonniebankston9974]

Awesome I can't wait to fly hard 3D with a version of this type with pitch on the tail. I could get a crappy heli from Walmart and put a positive and negative pitch rear tail rotor r,c.

[@enderdude5000]

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[@johndarrow1995]

Pathetic

[@brendaevans1532]

Ok. Which foot pedal is the pitch direction. Hey been there and done that. You don't fool me Rangerette 101st and 82nd Airborne, Fort Benning GA.

[@Jayboyd1260]

It would be the f22/f35 situtation all over again if Sikorsky (Lockheed) won both bids. Personally, Bell's V280 Valor + Sikorsky's Raider X. Or, and here's a wild thought, the army looks to smaller manufacturers, who, similarly to the jet industry, use computer models to cheaply create blueprints and then outsource the manufacture to others. Thus, the wild chokehold monopoly of current manufacturers is reduced, even if a tiny bit.

[@GhettoGatesss]

Lockheed has very strong ties already, so it’s 90% going to go to them strictly off of the politics of this space. They’ve been making aircrafts for over 30 years for the army

[@nerdwatch1017]

Man you’d think instead of just tilting away when a rocket gets fired at them these aircraft would have mini Missile’s to shoot out and down any rocket launched at them

[@Andy-df5fj]

I like how the Defiant X sounds like a swarm of crickets.

[@martintreptow8943]

How about using Osprey aircraft (already in use) for troop transport coupled with A-10s for escort/CAS? I am sure these next generation helicopters are engineering marvels but the deal breakers are the initial cost and cost overruns!

[@0farmerjohn0]

You don't get it. They need those cost overruns. Defense projects exceeding the budget are not due to the project. It's to line up the pockets of our politicians corporate masters.

[@kousand9917]

A-10 sucks should have been out of service decades ago also the V-22 osprey is not fit for this role as its huge and has major problems of its own

[@paulian1888]

timely just in time after they lost dozens of blackhawks to taliban

[@zeroone3804]

nice to see kermit get a new gig with this channel

[@AstroInfinitum]

Why are parts of the v280 blurred? Just want to point out there are several pictures of the same one in this video online as well as other videos on youtube.

[@russellleavitt4449]

I have this to say about that! Nice new state of the art weapons for our troops. So I guess its okay tp leave all that old billion dollar equipment in the desert of Afghanistan!!!

[@MilitaryUpdate]

Cool

[@enderdude5000]

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[@watchthe1369]

The tilt rotor for cargo/utility/range. The compound rotors for direct contact roles of scout and assault/ battlefield taxi roles. the big game changer would be a tilt rotor c-130 replacement.

[@TT-dv9er]

Without delay and cost overruns.... also known as cutting corners. Do it right or don't do it at all.

[@jeffreycortez36]

Thanks for giving away the old one's to the terrorist and ammo and M4 and humvees really sad disgraceful.

[@DJGeorgeDisco]

Taliban: can we get an upgrade? Biden: we will not only upgrade all your existing fleet, but also give you ours. You can keep the old helicopters since we no longer have need for them. Taliban: Thank you Mr. President!

[@jackmeoff8953]

You got more than that with the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey.

[@christophermetzger8183]

VTOL without helicopter blades reminded me of the C&C orca attack craft.

[@Craigpv2d]

Future US helicopters should still be able to bolt on wings and/or attachments for ferry fuel tanks. No matter what the design or specs, they should be abe to ferry themselves to almost anywhere without refueling.

[@get_it_done4580]

facts!

[@2fathomsdeeper]

They've had that ability for years! Anything beyond that is still classified.

[@beesting_yang3883]

Then use this helicopter to go finish off the Taliban.

[@jefferymccullough2306]

Your just another fool that don't care how many men's and we lose because of a stupid war

[@gaare8701]

😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

[@davethedude9885]

Cant they got ak47s.

[@seththomas3418]

@@jefferymccullough2306 The US has lost very few when compared to previous conflicts. How about you complain more about the millions of children aborted every year instead.

[@JP-qb3ny]

Can’t win an unconventional war with conventional tactics.

[@_maze_4733]

Super cool how the screen never look like the real thing.

[@louiswright2044]

Air Wolf design would be perfect think about it

[@RaininMortars]

Well, God knows we'll need them, since we're giving out all of our old ones to the taliban....

[@williambeavers9046]

They already sold some to China so.

[@zaksblog9570]

I wonder how much is the maintenance cost of that copter

[@victorglaviano]

That's the dirty language no one wants to hear!

[@markthompson1520]

I love how the thumbnail was the Halo Infinite Wasp with an additional propeller on top. Tf?! 😂

[@kennethdias9988]

Counter rotating double main rotor is a must for speed because that design solves retreating edge stall.