The Black Keys: Jack White The White Stripes Feud

Sign up for our Rock Newsletter here: bit.ly/3fjldAi
⬇️ Rock merch I'm loving right now:
Nirvana poster: amzn.to/3fmUMKc
Van Halen mini collectable guitar: amzn.to/3ebm1WM
Alice in Chains on MTV Unplugged: amzn.to/3ei0Hif
I recieve a small commission from link purchases
**[[[two to three sentence video description]]]**
LOVE ROCK N’ ROLL TRUE STORIES? NEVER MISS A BEAT
FACEBOOK: @RNRTrueStories
TWITTER: @rocktruestories
BLOG: www.rockandrolltruestories.com
#jackwhite #whitestripes #blackkeys
What's going on my fellow rock n' rollers. Don't forget to hit the bell notification icon to be notified every time i pout out a new video on my channel. This is one of the more recent feuds in the rock n’ roll world between the genre’s most popular artists. I’m talking about the Jack White and Black Keys feud, but did they ever make amends, stay tuned to find out.
Formed in 2001 the Black Keys broke through nationally, with 2003’s Thickfreakness, which saw them garner rave reviews and open for Beck. The same year Jack White's band the White Stripes had their own mammoth album called Elephant featuring the huge song seven nation army. Both bands were stripped down bluesy duos so comparisons were inevitable. What’s funny is that at this point in time the black keys claimed to have not heard of the white stripes when they first started as a band several years prior. Following the dissolution of The White Stripes in 2009 the Black Keys would become a dominant band taking over the rock charts.
The feud started back in 2010 when Jack white sat down with rolling stone magazine and the exchange went as follows with interviewer asking
There was a time this past decade when the idea of “garage rock” included bands that sounded nothing like the White Stripes. Do you feel like you have peers out there now that aren't necessarily doing the same kind of music, but work on the same level?
It's difficult to say. I feel like I'm a lot more to do with Jay-Z than I do with the Black Keys. And I don't know what that is, it's just a feeling. he'd say and he wouldn’t elaborate any further on the black keys in that interview.
Two years after that statement by white the black keys were interviewed by Rolling Stone magazine and an incident from 2012 was revealed where White had allegedly barred Black Keys frontman and guitarist Dan Auberach from entering Jack White’s nashville recording studio. The black keys frontman didn’t want to add fuel to the fire, but when the magazine reached out to Jack White for comment he had an odd response saying Anything you’ve ever heard anyone say about me is 100 percent accurate.”
The following year is where things really took a bizarre turn as White was involved in a nasty divorce with his ex-wife model Karen Elson. Elson filed a restraining order against White following allegations of harassment and soon enough leaked emails that Elson used in court to file her restraining order against White made numerous references to the Black Keys. Those emails would show how infuriated White was when he learned his children were attending the same school as the children of Keys frontman Dan Auerbach. One of the messages would read "That's a possible twelve fing years I'm going to have to be sitting in kids chairs next to that with other people trying to lump us in together, "He gets yet another free reign to follow me around and copy me and push himself into my world" the email would read.
The Black Keys took the high road as in 2014, when the band's drummer Patrick Carney struck a more sympathetic tone telling Rollin Stone Magazine,"As fed up as that is, that was a private conversation. We've all said real messed up stuff in private. You know how horrifying it would be if all of our private stuff was aired? Divorce is hard. It should be kept private, and people go sniffing around looking for this stuff. And ultimately, it's no one's business. He obviously sounds like a ahole. And I actually feel embarrassed for him. But, no, I don't hold grudges, man. I really don't." Auerbach meanwhile would add "I don't know him, so it's extra unexpected" he'd say
The same year in May of 2014 during a cover story for Rolling Stone White slammed the keys again revealing
"There are kids at school who dress like everybody else, because they don't know what to do, and there are musicians like that too. I'll hear TV commercials where the music's ripping off sounds of mine, to the point I think it's me. Half the time, it's the Black Keys. The other half, it's a sound-alike song because they couldn't license one of mine. There's a whole world that's totally fine with the watered-down version of the original" he'd say. In the same interview he'd add:
"Some people will hear that and say, 'Oh, Jack White thinks he's the first person to play the blues. But certain acts open up a market for a certain style. Amy Winehouse: Did she invent wh
"

[@rnrtruestories]

Throw your suggestions for future topics below!

[@davidgalinat4257]

How about revisiting U2's controversial 2014 album giveaway on iTunes?

[@mitchmiller6366]

Rock & Roll love triangles

[@KatarnCrusader]

Do one on Krist Novoselic musical ventures post Nirvana

[@Jason_Maier]

The whole story behind the album "Seventh Star": Why it became a Black Sabbath project instead of a Tony Iommi solo project (as was the original intent) and why the heck Glenn Hughes didn't last that long as lead singer.

[@jessejames9149]

Chris Jericho and Sebastian Bach.

[@joshualanhan9267]

The black keys and white stripes should form a supergroup called “The Piano”

[@th1agu]

The black eye.

[@lordswine7962]

2 lead guitars and 2 drummers. All Tude!

[@TheDamageinc81]

White Lightning and Black Thunder or Ebony and Ivory

[@IntombiPictures1]

classic chirp !

[@BIGMONEYPLAYER1]

I remember this comment from like 10 years ago too. Still a like

[@veerchasm1]

“Billy Corgan’s dumbass zero T-shirt in human form”, I’m a pumpkins fan and that is Hilarious! 🤣

[@osobear4365]

What does he mean by that? Can you explain?

[@veerchasm1]

@@osobear4365 probably has something to do with the angst ridden persona named “Zero” that Billy created for the Mellon Collie album. Perhaps he was saying Jack White’s attitude towards him could be likened to what the T-shirt represented back in the 90’s so to speak. I got nothing otherwise and if you asked Corgan he’d give you a two hour answer 😂

[@cam553]

What’s also hilarious is Corgan bought a Porsche with cash and was gloating about it on a Joe rogan clip. Should have kept the ice cream van.

[@CourtTV.]

same

[@bobthebear1246]

That is a fucking awesome quote. 😆

[@locks69]

Please stop saying "stay tuned to find out" Dude, I have clicked on the video. I am going to watch it.

[@jeffdekimpe1746]

thanks my fellow rock n roller

[@goodatsolitaire]

Thank you my fellow rock and roller. I like the videos on this channel but he doesn't need to make it seem like we're gonna turn that dial. Fuck most people who use KZbin don't even remember having a TV that actually had a dial on it. I feel old now.

[@EvanSchatz]

takecare.

[@misstrKevin]

I tend to doubt myself a lot of the time so when he says to stay tuned I feel more relaxed and sure of my decision to watch this video.

[@natashaeverafter6464]

@@goodatsolitaire 😖 Right there with you.

[@Renaissance464]

The Black Stripes and The White Keys are my favourite bands.

[@benkmoskomusic3679]

“Anything you’ve ever heard anyone say about me is 100% accurate.” You gotta love that!😆👍

[@johnhotine5586]

Cheeky wanker

[@AKartes]

That email cracks me up, especially the part where Jack says Dan is "following him around". They are both musicians who live in Nashville. Does Jack own Nashville? If Jack lived in some rando town in the middle of nowhere and Dan moved there, then yeah, that would be "following him around".

[@owenbaldridge7057]

@@surfsup5757 how is Nashville a hick town

[@blushingfrieza]

@@owenbaldridge7057 it's in Tennessee lol GOT EM!

[@yogsenforfoth5948]

@@owenbaldridge7057 Have you ever been to Nashville? If you have, you’d understand. It’s a shithole. 😂

[@dennismartin5821]

"Is that an A chord your play'n son?" Don't you know Jack White invented the chord of "A"? Do you have permission from him to do that?

[@dennismartin5821]

@Dan D IDK man. I never listened to the Black Keys, other than what was on the radio. I never liked'em. I was just saying that once you take money from a record company, and then jump through the hoops, and get rich, you can't call your shit, your shit anymore. I liked the White Stripes back in the day, but regardless of that, there are many of their songs that sound like other peoples shit. When a musician starts screaming "They're ripping of my stuff," it always makes them look like shit, to the people who get it. Blues musicians ripped each other off all the damn time, because they understood that claiming somebody stole some licks from ya, makes you look like a fool. White claims everybody ripped his ass. Hence he looks like a fool.

[@george-geedeevee9054]

@Dan D they were just close friends in elementary and ended up making their first band which was together which was the black keys no label made em. 😅 just two bros trying to live their dream and have fun doing it :) peace out guys and keep on rockin ✌🤟

[@kller324]

@Dan D lol Howlin For You is NOT white stripes esque. It’s a Cramps rip off of Teenage Werewolf. Black Keys have ripped off a lot of people none of which were Jack White. I love both of them but they were both being ego inflated divas. Except for Dan who at all points seemed to not care about any of it.

[@HarryJoiner]

2:42 - now i actually like the black keys even more

[@MasterOfKnowledge.]

Somehow never noticed before, but damn....Jack White can be insanely insecure

[@cam553]

Passive aggressive, would be my guess.

[@bobthebear1246]

And an extreme narcissist, or at least he was one.

[@adrock1011]

Probably.. but i can only inagine how many times he has been asked about his contemporaries such as the black keys... i would imagine it would be frustrating to be compared to a group that you dont necessarily like, of even respect. Did metallica have to answer questions about their influence on winger? And, admittedly, i am a fan of jw, but not the black keys... peace

[@lebronjames7041]

That’s what happens when you work so hard on your craft

[@imslicc]

there's an interview of paul mccartney, where he says he used to be bitter not winning enough awards. these kind of artists, who devote their life to being great, want to be treated like such. they have a difficulty being a common "normal person", probably due to a lack of appreciation from their peers and family in their formative years. I know that from experience... that's why you do see them very emotional when they get into things like the rock n roll hall of fame. only few artists get consistently appreciated and adored, like thom yorke i'd say.

[@brenttucker166]

When your hubris out grows your usefulness lol. Side note: how can anyone be mad at Dan Auerbach. He's the most chill regular dude to become a rockstar ever lol

[@xaQue23]

agreed about dan, but the drummer is a remarkably untalented musician who has no business having any sort of voice in the industry. he's a cringeworthy drummer.

[@haydenandhayden]

@@xaQue23 I mean he ain’t that bad and he doesn’t seem like a mean guy so I don’t see the problem with him

[@sdrebels13]

@@xaQue23 highly technical drumming would get in the way of their sound. Unless you’re in a prog band, i think it’s a hindrance to have a drummer who’s playing polyrhythms and switching time signatures for no real reason

[@Vermonster23]

@@xaQue23 I like his drumming. Respectfully, it’s a matter of opinion

[@sunshizzleyou]

@@xaQue23- an asshole called and wants its comment back.

[@franklindelanoroosevelt9177]

I love both the bands, (maybe the black keys a bit more just because of how they are as people) also love both of their solo stuff but I feel like white can def be a diva and this is the perfect example of proof why

[@wfl6887]

And before both of them was The John Spencer Blues Explosion.

[@706wi11]

If we're talking about one delusional tool saying the Black Keys sound like the White Stripes, might as well add a third band to the mix that sounds like neither?

[@christophervaldez8746]

Or the Flat Duo Jets...

[@jeffreyryan1639]

Hey fellas let's write a song

[@jeffreyryan1639]

@@706wi11 I think he was pointing out JSBE was way before Jack White. Besides but Blues Explosion and Keys have more soul than Jack. He is more pop than blues.

[@PlanetJ32]

Well..I'm glad The Black Keys showed up in music history..without them,one of my favorite albums would have never been..."Chulahoma"..I grew up 10mins from Chulahoma,Mississippi..down Hwy 4 between Senatobia,Ms and Holly Springs,Ms..home of the great hill country blues legend, Junior Kimbrough and his legendary and VERY popular hole in the wall club,Junior's Place. Junior didn't get the recognition he deserved while he was alive..so,The Black Keys made sure to instill him in music history by re-recording his music,with his families blessing,of course. If you have never heard of him..please go check out his music hear on youtube..he was amazing!

[@not2sirius249]

Well said!!! Great album, great tribute... Auerbach said junior pretty much made him want to be a musician, an mostly unknown beast given his due!!!👽👽👽

[@PlanetJ32]

@@not2sirius249 I'm so glad he was given his due,he was so very talented! He was a little less known than RL Burnside..but just as good and they were great friends! They are both considered Blues legend royalty in these parts..along with many others from this area..like Otha Turner, Napoleon Strickland..and many many others! I think Fat Possum Records in Oxford,Mississippi sell Junior Kimbrough albums..I know they sell RL's albums..you can find them on the internet if you don't live in the area.

[@WillieDuitt1]

Black Keys are from Akron, White Stripes are from Detroit, I live in Cleveland and both bands were playing in a bar named Pats In The Flats at roughly the same time period, They are close only because the had only two members, their sounds are not close.

[@OniDasAlagoas]

Well, it kind is, you know. Merging blues tones with ultra mega modern fuzzes.

[@herzeliedstein573]

Music is subjective, but to me the Keys have one sound

[@hollywood2499]

I live in Cleveland too and I remember Pats In The Flats! Never been to a gig there but I went to plenty of gigs at The Odeon and Peabody's Down Under! Used to go to a lot of Mushroomhead shows in the 90's before they signed to a major label! Man, those were the days!

[@Vichedges]

It's more than that, they only had 2 members, they both did the whole old, cheap, unloved retro gear thing, they both were hugely influenced by the blues. I'm not even a huge fan of either act but they definitely had similarities. They sound different and you wouldn't get them confused but the Rolling Stones and Beatles were doing basically the same thing when they first started too. Jack White just seems like an egomaniac to me. He didn't invent anything, he just did stuff with his own style so did the BK.

[@robwalsh9843]

I think the Black Keys added a bit more their sound with influences from Motown and whatnot. The White Stripes were a much more short-lived act by comparison.

[@bufozilla2045]

Both were my childhood favorite bands. The 2 piece blues rock was so sick.

[@jackshaw6793]

"Jack White is Zorro on donuts" -Noel Gallagher

[@Hygelac1000]

Haha I'd read an anthology of Gallagher throwing shade

[@HasselnodderTube]

This is why the Gallagher brothers rule.

[@eljedidelcine6143]

@@HasselnodderTube Jack White > The Gallagher Brothers

[@dystopiaahoy]

is that his twinkie defence?

[@jhonnyboylco7774]

@@eljedidelcine6143 never lol

[@Rico7Point5]

Jack stepping in it once again, and walking it back once again, at least he learns

[@patrickmoroney9754]

I like jack white but he sounds like a real stuck up child in this

[@trahapace150]

The keys can be complete snobbish dicks in their own right, look up their comments about nickleback

[@Vynzent]

@@trahapace150 Everyone is allowed to look down on Nickelback.

[@twongi6044]

@@trahapace150 even vanilla ice probably talks shit about nickelback

[@anthonyperez1698]

@@twongi6044 who's nickleback ?

[@twongi6044]

@@anthonyperez1698 idk some guy that wants their nickels back

[@deannilvalli6579]

It's nice to see the boys getting along again.... Though honestly, rock feuds are stupid.

[@blushingfrieza]

It's always one douche, in this case Jack, and other people just kinda ignoring then until they can't.

[@sammymink1841]

I like the white stripes stuff way better but I dont really hear Jack whites influence in the black keys. I mean some songs may

[@danmicklethwaite5585]

yeah I heard an attempt at this comparison years ago and didn't get it either. I liked the white stripes for 5 minutes, then later loved the black keys, but to me the white stripes is more an original sound punk blues with a touch of the kind of experimental song writing you get from nick cave and beck, whereas the black keys was more an organic continuation of all the blues that had come before, I mean their first several albums had multiple covers of early 20th century blues songs, and chulahoma is a whole album of Junior Kimbrough.. and when the Keys developed a more original sound with Danger Mouse producing, there is a lot of that Danger Mouse sound in it which is nothing like Jack White... I think Jack was just reacting to the inaccurate comparisons that other talentless muso journalists were making, without really knowing where the black keys were actually coming from cause their sound sure as hell wasn't based on listening to his music.

[@garysmith3173]

Black keys and the White Stripes are chalk and cheese. I love both bands but both totally different IMHO.😘🥁🌻

[@andygeibe]

Agreed

[@magnificentthing3551]

Hipster wars lol

[@donaldcady3839]

That's awesome.

[@george-geedeevee9054]

Yess this a yes 😄✌🙌

[@darynweir97]

😂😂😂😂

[@rolmodel12.]

😆 well played 🤣

[@MichaelKerr71]

When I hear Adele, I never hear Amy Winehouse. When I hear The Black Keys, I never hear The White Stripes. Sometimes I wonder where people come up with that stuff. And what did Billy Corgan's old "Zero" shirt have to do with anything?

[@danmicklethwaite5585]

yeah Adele and Amy Winehouse is the most bizarre comparison in this whole non-affair, the only thing they have in common is being white british female singer songwriters. Winehouse's music sprang from a love of Sinatra and that kind of music, and she sang it with her crazy f''ed up vocal chords, Winehouse is just random outlier success from a very independent sound. Adele and other successful female singer songwriters, owe none of their mainstream pop success to Winehouse's outlier style and music.. that's a bizarre tribute to Winehouse to say they do, when it seems her success was far less likely and predictable than the more standard poppy sound of Adele and co. Also it seems to me calling either of them "soul" singers strips the term of all meaning.

[@MichaelKerr71]

@Dan D They have two completely different sounds.

[@3star2nr]

White stripes was guitar and drums with blues influences. Black keys are guitar and drums with blues influences... Labels pushed beefs and insight artists to keep artists relevant. Its all bullshit

[@MichaelKerr71]

@@3star2nr That's true, I agree.

[@Mattythebassman]

They play vaguely similar music, it's a bizzare comparison. You could say any bluesy rock band is a rip off of another bluesy rock band that came slightly after if you go by jack's logic.

[@OniDasAlagoas]

Thank god they worked it out quickly. Patrick looks like such a good fella.

[@DendyJungle]

I’d agree jack white opened the door for them but doesn’t mean they didn’t go on to do different stuff from him. To use his own examples, Adele is still talented and has good songs despite not being Amy winehouse

[@robwalsh9843]

I feel like Amy Winehouse's career collapsed just as it took off. And if she were still alive there's no guarantee that Adele wouldn't outsell her.

[@harrisfrankou2368]

@@robwalsh9843 Adelle would easily outsell her. But I prefer Amy she's more an artist Adelle is a once every decade voice.

[@706wi11]

Did he though? I mean, maybe for them to get popular. But it wasn't too long after Fell In Love With A Girl exploded the stripes popularity that I first heard the Black Keys, who again, sound NOTHING LIKE them. So I have to imagine they were both long since doing their things apart, unaware of each others' existence. This sounds more like Jack got his panties in a bunch because the Black Keys are still getting commercial royalties and other than soccer fans chanting 7 nation White hasn't really felt relevant since 8 mile was in theaters. I haven't liked either since 2006 FWIW.

[@blushingfrieza]

Lol so hard at Adele not selling as many albums it if weren't for amy. Yes, yes she would've sold millions in the universe Amy was never born. That's like saying Madonna wouldn't have sold as many albums if it weren't for Celine Dion wtf, so dumb

[@zacharyjohnston9449]

"jack white is Billy Corgan's zero shirt in human form." I'm offended

[@davidgalinat4257]

Patrick managed to diss Jack White and Billy Corgan in one tweet. I'm impressed.

[@junkiejackflash]

Much as I love SP and Billy, he ain't wrong. Billy's mellowed a little bit lately, but he's still kinda high and mighty

[@lueysixty-six7300]

@@junkiejackflash Same. Smashing Pumpkins got me through the last few years of teenager-dom. I have a lifelong connection and respect for the Smashing Pumpkins, Billy Corgan and the Mellon Collie mega album (pick up a dictionary and learn to spell, you wierdo "Creative"! Lol! I can't see the creative importance of spelling melancholy, "Mellon collie"*, but 🤷‍♂️hey! What r ya Gunna do?! 🤦‍♂️ Creatives!). But even with so much reverence for Billy's Masterpiece (Mellon Collie double album + Aeroplane flies high...Box set), he was, and to some degree still is, a Tosser! He is just so full of himself. He is the walking result of what happens when a geek/outcast not only doesn't get treated like an outcast, but instead gets celebrated as a genius, a musical savant and a zeitgeist-maker! (No pun intended). A pretty heady resume! With that much hype, and the power that accompanies fame & wealth...there's little wonder he turned into a tool! I think I would turn out similarly. It almost justifies the bullying, outcast type kids receive...it curbs our natural tendency towards deifying ourselves!! Lol! * Is the 'Mellon' part, a cheap pun on Pumpkins being sort of mellons? Like a Water Mellon or a Rock Mellon...? So the 'Collie of the Mellons. Yeah? Is that it? A maaajor stretch, bu-u-u-ut... If not, I truly have nooooooo idea!!!🤷‍♂️

[@taffysaur]

@@lueysixty-six7300 Mellon Collie is supposed to be a woman’s name.

[@DJSockmonkeyMusic]

@@junkiejackflash I'm a huge fan, and back in 1992 I was introduced to James Iha and Darcy Wrecsky at a festival with what seems like a huge lineup now, but at the time really wasn't. Soundgarden were the headline I think, but Smashing Pumpkins played at about 3pm (My band played the opening side stage slot at noon, so me, the drummer and the singer/bassplayer) After the set, which we had watched from stage side, James invited us back for beers. Really cool people, James is a huge guitar nerd and we were having a good time, drinking beer and talking shit. A small group started to form around James, since he was hosting us, I suppose. Our drummer got into a deep kit discussion with Matt Cameron, who just randomly was sitting around killing time. Beck Hansen wandered over and we talked about samplers and midi gear for a while. Kim Deal walked by and said hello to the small group, and I nearly died, I'm so glad she didn't sit down. Darcy left to get changed but a bunch of people were sitting around talking for about an hour. Chris Cornell and Kim Thyall walked by and said hello! One if the guys from ministry very kindly lied and said our set was great. So many successful musicians, I just wanted to ask them so many questions, but I was trying to keep it cool. I remember thinking "This is what I want for my life..." And then Billy Corgan cracked the shits from inside his trailer and had security escort me and my bandmates out of the backstage area. Apparently he didn't like not being the centre of attention. We were making too much noise (Beastie Boys were onstage as security came). James was really embarrassed and apologetic. We didn't even see Billy the whole time were were back there. He went straight from stage to trailer. From what I heard, he left for his hotel less than half an hour after having us kicked out. And like, even Chris Cornell said hello when he walked past, you know? God himself was kind and generous towards us kids in the local band. EVERYONE on the whole tour was an awesome, friendly person who were kind and generous to the younger musicians on the tour. Except Billy Corgan.

[@johanndaart7326]

Jack is just salty. C'mon, even Paul Stanley from Kiss (such a big brand in rock) was wise enough to say "Jimmy Page wrote a book, we wrote a page in it". Both White Stripes and Black Keys have their own, distinct style and sound, but they both evolved from hard rock roots planted in the 70ties. Jack acts like he's the only worthy torch bearer of hard rock flame. How about writing new kick ass White Stripes album instead of talking shit?

[@chrisyeomans5547]

Seventy ties?

[@johanndaart7326]

@@chrisyeomans5547 good catch :D

[@arthuredens]

Jack has ripped off so many people, for him to say he's being ripped off...

[@fabnerluigigalbiati6014]

He's kind suspicious of everyone, but if the person proves or defends himself he usually invites the artist to make part of his crew

[@batman48195]

@Dan D he’s covered a lot of old blues tunes written by other artists. Son House and others.

[@fraserlindsay8994]

I'm ignorant on this, who has he ripped off and whats songs were these?

[@samanthab1923]

I think there was more to it. At one point Jack's ex wife was recording at the Keys studio.

[@handsomeguy71]

Oh my

[@achair650]

Hmmmmm......

[@positifflight8592]

I agree with you. It would explain Jack's behavior and deep offense and these seemingly small slights by the Black Keys.

[@vafixer8885]

Yea that would make his behaviour make 100% more sense imo

[@ukmary1968]

That's hilarious

[@MrSpeedyy1991]

Does anyone else feel like this feud was started by magazines and interviewers?

[@JL0ndon]

I always thought they were the black keys 🎹 like the ones on a piano as a response to the the white stripes name.

[@johnrandy7140]

I read somwhere that somone called them black keys as an insult and they liked the name

[@goodatsolitaire]

@@johnrandy7140 Not quite. "According to an interview on NPR's Fresh Air, the group's name 'the Black Keys' came from an acquaintance diagnosed with schizophrenia, Alfred McMoore. He would leave incoherent messages on their answering machines referring to their fathers as 'black keys' such as 'D flat' when he was upset with them." I'd link the actual interview but it's apparently no longer available online (www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=133276978&m=133369165). You can find other sources though.

[@ed1pk]

Sounds like they named themselves after an insult from Jack White or White Stripes fans. 😆

[@joshualoveless20]

Jacky Boys head has gotten a little big, the Keys are such humble guys and their music doesn't sound anything like The white stripes. Jack's Guitar sounds more like a Kazoo than a guitar.

[@jeniriousarieadol2391]

These are two of my most favorite bands

[@emaheiwa8174]

They pulled their hair for a vintage guitar on a pawn shop

[@MagillSvenski]

I love The White Stripes but Jack comes across like such a self obsessed drama queen irl.

[@datcajunlady]

Hes like the Danzig of our gen ngl

[@datcajunlady]

Yall remember when he fought the guy from the von bondies🤣?

[@jiontmusic1905]

@@datcajunlady you remember the von bodies? 🤣

[@datcajunlady]

@@jiontmusic1905 aw, "C'mon c'mon" 🤣🤣🤣

[@GeistMeister]

a rock star is a drama queen? i am shocked. psych.

[@ratiod2289]

That tweet about Jack White being Billy Corgans dumb ass zero tshirt in human form was awesome! 🤣

[@shearfury147]

jack white is pretty full of himself.

[@daddyblackboots]

It worked. The Black Keys changed their sound right after this.

[@VitaEx]

I already thought a black keys white stripes joint tour would be hella awesome epic even

[@hunterwest54]

The Key's are just straight up nasty Delta blues most of the time. Especially their earlier records. Jack ought to know that! I love them both!!

[@shooting6lasers]

As much as I enjoy Jack’s White Stripes music and recognize it had some impact on music at the time, Jack is vastly overstating the influence he thinks he has by believing himself to be some pioneer of blues heavy rock and being the first person to open that as a massive market with audiences. Rock in its foundation was derived in part by the blues and there are plenty of older bands like Black Sabbath which merged the blues with modern rock sensibilities. You could easily have a band that sounds like the White Stripes without them having heard one song of theirs. There’s plenty of past influences to draw from for that.

[@one7deep7savage7]

I agree.. Hes dope as hell but...relax lol

[@prilljazzatlanta5070]

Plenty, as in every rock band ever

[@toddrichardson8595]

The Black Stripes vs The White Keys....

[@mitchmiller6366]

Would be one hell of tour...oh wait

[@jburdsinfuse]

Battle of the minor pentatonic scale...

[@magusking9215]

Black Keys is a pretty cool name, White Stripes on the other hand sounds like someone's been beaten by black kids in school

[@mitchmiller6366]

@@magusking9215 check out THE BLUE STONES...Canada’s version of both bands lol

[@METALFROG6]

I knew this feud would eventually come to light.

[@cozmovox]

Jack knows that "being angry at the black keys" helps them a lot publicitywise.....They're all in it. Always were and will be.

[@jamegumm]

**cough, cough***.....Flat Duo Jets

[@welbyrouse76]

jamegumm, BINGO!

[@mundaneallaround]

Yeah it's called projection. They should have gotten the spotlight,they feel organic in comparison.

[@mundaneallaround]

@@Horsemanray projection is a psychological term when a person projects or says about others something that they have done or are guilty off. Jack saying that about the black keys is a projection of his own guilt around borrowing from the flat duo jets. They were playing from 83 to late 90s.

[@yohanhioe3289]

@@mundaneallaround Jack actually acknowledged their influence on The White Stripes. Pretty often too.

[@mundaneallaround]

@@yohanhioe3289 yeah,what I'm saying is that he has unprocessed guilt though which he then projected it onto the black keys.In that maybe he thinks that it isn't fair that his band blew up and the flat duo jets didn't.I think he signed them on his label though.

[@oba1560]

This was very gray.

[@sharon07430]

🤣

[@jlobiafra]

Check out a band called the Immortal lee county killers. They were way better than both of these bands but never broke through. They were from Alabama

[@mundaneallaround]

Yep

[@briankennedy1192]

Happens so often mate. Right place right time. Has echoed eternally since the entertainment business was ushered in over a century ago. Some of the greatest bands of all time have never been heard because of some greedy record label suits. Suits is being polite.

[@iwillnevergetone5]

haha I love the bit around 6:35 where the Keys admit to knowing the other owners at ThirdMan for 20 years, but previous claimed to have not heard of the Stripes. 3rd man was established in '01. they definitely knew of the Stripes. haha

[@musicjunkiefl]

Jack White is not the only owner of Third Man Records. They meant the other two owners.

[@iwillnevergetone5]

@@musicjunkiefl right. see the bit where i said -other- owners. and it still stands: any band as active as the Keys were in their early years had def been aware of the stripes. they were buzz-y & active as hell for years by that point

[@sageanimist48]

I love the Keys and the Stripes before Elephant was released I had never heard of them

[@bleunt]

The Black Keys come out on top here, really.

[@maxpalmer3212]

I got into the black keys this year

[@johnjohnson3709]

I like both bands.

[@peterbadami4872]

The White Stripes and The Black Keys are both blues-rock duos that have Midwestern rust belt roots and some of the same musical influences such as Led Zeppelin, Iggy Pop and the stooges, and Junior Kimbrough, so of course there was some similarities in their sounds. Both Jack White and members of the keys have really evolved their musical taste over the years. White's third man records does a great job of releasing garage rock, folk, country, even some hip-hop records. Dan Auerbach produces and plays on records of all genres from Mississippi Hill music to 60's style soul to African Saharan rock.

[@gqfiend]

Omg That “zero” comment is a total slayer. 🤣🤣🤣

[@caden0622]

Jack White seems like a down to earth, well adjusted man.

[@SkeetGeedler]

Black Keys > White Stripes Jack White’s insecurities have always been on full display.

[@Natalie-ox7xm]

That's how Jack White has always been. He started a huge confrontation with the singer from Detroit band The Ruiners over some other perceived slight. (Everyone in that band is super nice, but Rick is just the sweetest guy ever). This is before The White Stripes had made it big. The guy is a bully and an asshole . Always has been.

[@reymhd7655]

ruiners? never heard of them, jack had a good show on snl recently though, so it’s an ugly world i guess

[@InfamousJJ420]

Sounds like a real non-issue fueled by Jack, the ego driven gatekeeper of ‘his style’. There’s obviously more drama behind the scenes, but at face value that’s what I got from it.

[@Celadian67]

The way Jack phrases it at the end. It sounds like he had a lawyer in his ear getting him all worked up to sue.

[@alchemisoulofficial]

I always thought this was the most petulant, and unnecessary fued in music. At the time, it soured me a bit on Jack White. Those two units do very different things, neither of which casts a shadow on the other. I never thought of them together really before it got brought up, beyond being a two piece band as well. What Jack White does is very original and eccentric, he is an absurd force to be reckoned with. It's a strange, unique, artistic style that is not worth trying to bite. That's where his value emerges out of, his artistry. But what makes what The Black Keys so special is much more straightforward but isnruwally valid and has everything to songwriting. It's undeniable how well written their music is, and on some level Jack must have always seen it in them himself - and it seems to me he possibly or almost had to env them to have been such a cunt about it. In any event, I'm pleased to hear that the terms between them are what they are - and nothing would please me more than to hear what come out of that collaboration.

[@LoganInThailand]

Reminds me of the Brian Clough/Don Revie fight. Got ignored. Went nuts proving he was not to be ignored.

[@FedeMayhemile.]

"Publicity" people, publicity, that's why all this "feuds" are (in part at least) made public for, they take advantage (pushed by the labels probably) of them and then "casually" helps people remember or know about the artists existence.

[@sommy559]

How funny I was just thinking about this the other day

[@ryansoltess6006]

They should tour together.

[@bobfrapples1208]

I do remember when Jack beat up the guy from the Von Bondies.

[@ktdrhr6893]

yeah he got arrested and everything i remember that

[@stephenk6958]

@@ktdrhr6893 no. it was funny, he went home dressed in a suit or something and turned himself in.

[@mikewilson3581]

That would make a good story to cover.

[@donaldcady3839]

That was some Detroit rivalry shit. I think it's in the book Detroit rock city I'll have to re read it.

[@MQZ17]

Yeah, left him pretty beat up, you can google the images

[@fgbtv3803]

Jack black should join the Black keys and have a battle between Jack black and Jack white

[@brianq2558]

it's so funny to hear about "beefs" in the rock world

[@lukecollings356]

Here in Australia we had the duo Matt Walker & Ashley Davies releasing albums in the 90s. Pretty sure that they opened up for Bob Dylan in '98. When the whole Stripes/Keys thing started about 5 years later it already felt like it had been done (better) to me. There was some alright Keys stuff in the beginning I guess.

[@Slappysan]

Australia might as well be the dark side of the moon where this is concerned. World feels smaller now...but not that small.

[@irishhungrydwarf9015]

Never understood this feud. Both amazing rock bands

[@dumpygoodness4086]

Jack's ex-wife FUCKED one of the Black Keys to get back at Jack. THAT is why Jack is acting so weird and hating on them so much.

[@starwart2000]

I remember when those emails leaked, they were so fucking petty, I died laughing. And I’m a fan of both bands lmao.

[@Telecasterland]

The Black Keys were forming up and hanging out in the same period that the White Stripes did. The Black Keys recorded music together almost by accident to start with while the White Stripes were still not a big hit yet. By the time the Whitestripes would be recognizable to more of the general public the Black Keys had released 2 albums. So to me this never made sense. Seemed like a weird egotistical thing from Gillis expecting everyone to know what he's been up to lately. I have to agree with others that Jack seems to have really poor self esteem that requires him to get too harsh for dumb things. I can't imagine how Meg handled him for that long. Now let me watch his epic SNL performance again with his perfectly timed Eddie tribute. Just because someone has some issues doesn't mean that they aren't great.

[@tommydiamond3539]

You didn't mention the disstrack Dan composed for Jack and released it with his side band The Arcs (Fools Gold)

[@edhombre]

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't jack get the idea of a two member band from another two member band. I forget their names but I am positive heard him talk about that in an interview.

[@bobatea-4706]

why is this so funny to me 💀

[@MattWilson.]

MTV Brazil footage

[@skeetschuler1859]

Jack is a really good guy.

[@juicepick7131]

We're getting closer to the real strypes story 🔥

[@mia2362]

Just a heads up, they made amends.. black keys just had a promo video about their 10 year anniversary of Brothers and it's a cool video you should check it out, long story short they said they squashed the beef

[@delspence3284]

Adults acting like adults getting the fuck over things and settling their differences makes me happy. I wish there was more of this in the world right now.

[@batteryincorporated]

imma need that 7.12 min back...

[@kasisoot]

I love Jack White, but to hear him be called a bully doesn’t surprise me. I suspect that all rock gods have a bit of super asshole in them, it’s how they got where they are. I remember seeing photos of some other musician that he absolutely beat the shit out of. I think it was a old friend of his.

[@christophermerlot3366]

Suggestion: I'd be interested in a vid about the one-off Neurotic Outsiders, seeing as you know so much about GnR. I saw them on the one tour they did and enjoy the album but know little of how it came about. Thanks.

[@Vichedges]

I can tell you how it came about. Steve Jones and those guys played at the Viper Room. They were a hot band and seen by industry people, some execs threw a huge advance at them (there was still big money in music for bands back then) they made that record but then the Pistols got back together so it never really went anywhere. I bought the album when it came out and it got some airplay, I imagine because punk was hot at the time, but it was a pretty mediocre album overall, the music was good but it just didn't have the "edge" the Pistols or GNR had (maybe the Taylor/Duran Duran influence took away the edge)

[@essentialeccentricstudio2802]

They had a question about this on jeopardy yesterday.

[@rgbrown90]

Left Lane Cruiser and The juke joint Pimps are pretty good too

[@ecurewitz]

Sounds like that bizzare fued between the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Faith No More, where they claim they each ripped of the others sound, when they realy both sound quite different

[@dumpygoodness4086]

nah, Jack White hates the Black Keys b/c one of them fucked Jack's ex-wife. THAT's why JW hates them!

[@Allagi22]

They must join forces. The Black Keys + The White Stripes= The Grey Blues.

[@toughlifevirgina]

Love to hear about Jack White's Von Bondies punch out!

[@datcajunlady]

Yeeesss i was saying this myself

[@outthasky]

I had not heard of this feud and wish I never had

[@blackphillip8486]

Wtf is Carney's problem with Billy Corgan's Zero shirt? That shirt is a classic! 😒

[@standinsilence]

Yeah there is never gonna be any Black Keys shirts as iconic as that. Theyre a ridiculous band btw.

[@dylanwesley3964]

@@standinsilence the black keys are pretty kick ass, especially those early records.

[@EyesHoleMedia]

Seemed to me like he simply meant Jack was a living zero. Just a weird, long way around to say it.

[@jkb1O5]

Iconic rock memorabilia

[@Slappysan]

I swear I only seem to be hear of this band when it's in relation to Jack White. Well, almost. Still can't say for sure if I've heard a song by them either.

[@IvanLendl87]

Didn’t Jack White also beat up some guy from The Detroit Cobras several years back?

[@sexytrashfire]

i remember reading Q's article about it a few day ago. that was kind of embarassing to see

[@sexytrashfire]

no, no, i remembered - it was the guy from The Von Bondies

[@leawoodward8994]

Cool video

[@christophervaldez8746]

Jack White owes a huge debt to Dexter Romweber & the Flat Duo Jets..

[@JVenger]

"Jack White is basically Billy Corgan's dumb ass zero t-shirt in human form." I don't know why I laughed so hard on that comment.🤣🤣

[@LEFT4BASS]

This wouldn’t have ended so nicely if it wasn’t for the Black Keys taking the high road.

[@burnthetrolls5971]

I don't why I thought the picture of Jack White was the bad guy from Lazytown 🤣

[@joehurtig7950]

Was that a Steely Dan lick playing in the background?

[@robertcowan7610]

This is so hilarious to hear because it shows that Jack White is no better a person than he is a musician 🤣! The Black Keys are better musically and better as people too obviously. Jack White's such a Pogue.

[@GypsyGuyy420]

cool

[@benboi5388]

I’m questioning if jack white should be my inspiration because he got a restraining order and almost got jail time and got in a fight with two bands

[@Jp-tz8pv]

Full disclosure up front: I don't listen to radio or streaming services, I check out what friends tell me and use some music/mindmap web sites and such. And the first time I saw The White Stripes on teevee I really really hated what I saw. But then I listened to Elephant a few times and it started to grow on me. (I'll give any album the 'three full listens' treatment.) I know people have been raving about The Black Keys for ages, I finally got around to getting an album (can't remember the name right now), and I think it's a pretty great album. I haven't yet listened to The Dead Weather or The Raconteurs. But after listening to Jack's solo albums and the work he's done with other artists, to my ear I think he's an incredible song writer and musician with incredible talent. His solo albums are very high on my list of what will always be on the thumb drive in the car. (also full disclosure, I'm one of those people that likes to listen to albums start to end, not a playlist or anything on random)

[@putitback4789]

You need the black keys last 4 albums at lest and the ones before that are pretty good too. Especially magic potion and attack and release. If you like jamming albums beginning to end. Also pretty much the same with the stripes the last album was real good. I think just my opinion. Jacks worst work is his solo albums. The second rac album was good first one was ok. Level live is awesome! I dont think i was ever disappointed with a the dead weather album or a white stripes album. Some of his solo stuff is good. Like the love is blindness cover was really good. Idk just get them all. I have everything from all the bands talked about except for a couple of jacks solo albums couldn’t get into them. Do yourself a favor and buy the black keys lo/hi album beginning to end its awesome! Turn blue was so good too. Just get them all lol. Also The Kills Midnight boom album