The Black Titanium Secret Revealed- How to Blacken Titanium

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Richter Scale Rings

Richter Scale Rings

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Ok, so it isn't really a secret. Learn how to turn titanium black it in under 5 minutes with this easy tutorial by Richter Scale Rings!
Ask any questions in the comments below!
Tools needed-
Titanium piece
Propane torch
Oil (I used WD-40 here)
Disclaimer- I am not responsible for any personal injury, loss of property, blah blah blah that results from any actions followed in this video, it is intended for educational purposes only.

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@crabbysam
@crabbysam 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Titanium T3 compensator/ Halo suppressor mount that's 6AL-4V titanium. Was going to anodize it like I've done before, but this is a neat trick that I'm definitely going to try as its the exact finish I want. With a jeweler in the family for decades, I wish I learned this trick long ago as I use titanium frequently, heck in the military I got a bit dented and dinged, they refurbished me with a new shiny titanium hip, I would have prefered it brazed and quenched in WD-40 so it was more tactical :) In all seriousness, I appreciate you taking the time to make this video.
@ajinprakash9763
@ajinprakash9763 5 жыл бұрын
Good job!!! But do you think that it might alter some dimensions since it's being heated and quenched. For example if the part has a tapped hole in it will this process damage the threads?
@tattoosteveneo
@tattoosteveneo 4 жыл бұрын
ajin prakash no it doesn’t damage threads or change dimensions. I have used this on some with screw sizes in 2/56 and it didn’t bother them. Although it does make them slightly gritty. So use a tap to clean it out if that’s a problem.
@tattoosteveneo
@tattoosteveneo 5 жыл бұрын
This method works great. I’ve used it on several Ti items. It’s very dark, from dark grey to black. The finish is stronger than you would think to. Used it on my wedding band and I’m rough on rings. So far and only a few songs of black has come off.
@tattoosteveneo
@tattoosteveneo 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering how long this holds up and how strong it is. I had a Ti tritium holder that I used this process on. It’s been riding on my keychain (with lots of other keys and things) for about a year now. I don’t see any chips, scratches etc on it.
@SamFBM
@SamFBM Жыл бұрын
thats cool good to know
@jodyrowe8166
@jodyrowe8166 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to ask this. Considering doing it with a flashlight I have to match a dlc knife a bit better
@DebonairOnline
@DebonairOnline 11 ай бұрын
Going to give this a go on a Ti bicycle derailleur cage. Thanks for sharing this technique.
@markmiller7426
@markmiller7426 5 жыл бұрын
Nice; pretty much like blackening steel only I like to use dirty filthy engine oil which seems to give it a more black finish...I learned when I made a few muzzle brakes (and other parts for the end of a barrel) you can tailor any finish color within reason by carding and heat temp or oil type..Its a great alternative to cold blue and waste oil that is filthy costs nothing and gives great and quick results...
@SpataWorks
@SpataWorks 3 ай бұрын
Can you anodize this if parts were cleaned off and still keep the black?
@tomalophicon
@tomalophicon Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Do you think it's possible to use this process on a titanium watch case without it warping?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings Жыл бұрын
It will probably warp to some extent. Enough to make it unusable? I don’t know. If you decide to try it let me know how it goes!
@tomalophicon
@tomalophicon Жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings thanks for the quick response. I may try it with lower heat. I'll report back
@Pauliebalisongs
@Pauliebalisongs 7 ай бұрын
Going to do this with my grade 5 titanium Balisong handles. I can’t blast the ti cause I don’t have a set up, but should I stone stone wash the handles first?
@IonutConstantinIrimescu
@IonutConstantinIrimescu 10 ай бұрын
I need to sandpaper it before blackening? With a 180 grit sandpaper will be ok? I want to blackening some small screws with a custom vixtorinox.
@henrykausmiler3888
@henrykausmiler3888 Ай бұрын
What is estimated temperature to make Ti orange hot? Thanks
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings Ай бұрын
Search blacksmith color chart for a rough idea
@the6cow6god6
@the6cow6god6 5 жыл бұрын
so whats the long term effects of doing this? will the char wear off? what happens when it gets wet or scratched? does it weaken the surface of the metal at all? sorry if these seem like stupid questions im new to all this stuff, i really like titanium i just dont know a ton about it yet
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 5 жыл бұрын
It's a tough finish, I'd say the black oxide is tougher than the titanium itself. It can be scratched, but wear wise, it's difficult to remove when you're trying to. I haven't seen any household chemicals that effect the finish.
@michaelscribner8206
@michaelscribner8206 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please address the durability of the finish? Others have asked with no reply and I'm curious as well. Thank you.
@KableTac
@KableTac 6 жыл бұрын
its not as simple as just saying whether its durable or not. the durability is entirely dependent on the circumstances. the grade of titanium, the process it was manfactured with, prep work before attempting. some titanium just doesnt like it, it may just flake off. sometimes itll come out spotty or not work at all. sometimes it comes out amazing. in the absolute best case scenario, the finish will be similar to regular anodizing durability or a bit better depending on how many times you do it.
@scottyockey875
@scottyockey875 6 жыл бұрын
Kable what about “surgical grade” titanium? I bought it from a company who markets theirs as surgical grade, and I’d like to try this with the ring, but I don’t want to ruin the ring. What do you think?
@butterflyeffect2411
@butterflyeffect2411 4 жыл бұрын
if ur still curious i tried this with grade 5 titanium and could throw it into concrete as hard as i could many many times with no affect to the finish
@Clinteastvveed
@Clinteastvveed 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I fucking love you.. ive been trying to do this with oil forever without desired results
@SirGullefjun
@SirGullefjun 9 ай бұрын
Is the black titanium electrically conductive? I am curious what kind of oxide layer you have managed to create.
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 9 ай бұрын
I’m curious too. It seems to have fairly low conductivity.
@karabinas
@karabinas Жыл бұрын
Spyderco Smock scales next to
@Tomarebuela
@Tomarebuela 4 жыл бұрын
before buying a costly tank of wd40, are there a similar cheaper oil?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
You should (in theory) be able to use most oils. All you need is a carbon source.
@wildcard214th
@wildcard214th 4 жыл бұрын
Will this change the hardness of the titanium? Thanks
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
Probably.
@a.b.6179
@a.b.6179 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing!! Can i polish after to shine more?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 5 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty tough finish, and can withstand a little bit of polishing, but if you get too heavy you'll probably go through. You're probably better off polishing first and then blackening, unfortunately polished surfaces don't seem to blacken well.
@cris5341
@cris5341 10 ай бұрын
You Don t damage the titanium? Don t make him weak? If i want to do with a screw?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 10 ай бұрын
It does seem to make the titanium harder, but not brittle
@cris5341
@cris5341 10 ай бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings and If i make this to a iron screew?
@SgtKong
@SgtKong 5 жыл бұрын
This is great. Ever done it to a knife scale?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 5 жыл бұрын
Just rings, but it should work. The thermal cycling might cause some warpage though.
@CNYKnifeNerd
@CNYKnifeNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Does this come off with HF, like anodized colors do?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 2 жыл бұрын
Probably, HF will take almost anything off. It is thicker than anodizing though.
@daverobichez560
@daverobichez560 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there, awesome vid ! I was wondering if this could work on silver too. Basicaly how to get a silver ring turn black ? We tried oxidizing but we were not that satisfied with the result. Cheers from Belgium !!
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
+Dave Robichez your best bet is liver of sulphur, this process wouldn't work silver.
@chanhoonglee7548
@chanhoonglee7548 3 жыл бұрын
Bleach will turn silver to black
@adriandaniel4294
@adriandaniel4294 4 жыл бұрын
will this affect the size of the ring since it gets so hot? and will the black color last long?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
Any dimensional change is minimal, the finish is very tough, definitely not gonna rub off or anything.
@zechreverse6104
@zechreverse6104 5 жыл бұрын
Sir. . . Can i use the same method for stainless steel'?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 5 жыл бұрын
It's worked when I've tried it.
@zechreverse6104
@zechreverse6104 5 жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings Thankyou So Much for Replying Sir, . . .
@richardsalinetrojr1957
@richardsalinetrojr1957 6 жыл бұрын
Will this method work on oakley x-metal frames,mainly the nose bridge and ear stem pieces on the juliet frames?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Salinetro jr no clue. I'm not even familiar with them.
@WTZ4DNR1090
@WTZ4DNR1090 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Salinetro jr I m watching this because of my Romeo 2.0 trying to refinish myself to x metal grey
@sander.s4604
@sander.s4604 6 жыл бұрын
If the "x-metal" is titanium i don't see why it wouldn't work
@thederpynarwhal4027
@thederpynarwhal4027 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda wanna do this to my balisong. U think it'll work
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
No clue, you'd have to do a test.
@francssquare8295
@francssquare8295 4 жыл бұрын
Hi dude. Did it worked??
@1tltt1
@1tltt1 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this make the metal Weaker, Heating and cooling?, i could understand stand a ring, but how about a pocket clip for a knife?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 3 жыл бұрын
Titanium heat treats different from steel or base metals. I don't know the specifics, but the titanium is definitely harder once this is done.
@markmiller7426
@markmiller7426 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried this on 7075T6 AL? I imagine since the Ti has aluminum as a % depending on Grade how it will stand up after getting it up in temp..I think after 400 Degrees Al losses its strength...I guess I could do it and see but have you tried it and with what results?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 5 жыл бұрын
It won't work with aluminum alloys, no need to even try. they'd all melt before even getting near the temperature required, among numerous other reasons. A small amount of aluminum as an alloying element is an entirely different animal aluminum based alloy.
@markmiller7426
@markmiller7426 5 жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings Right I got you on the alloy as I started machining Titanium a few years ago noticing it is a tricky metal to machine with the majority of heat getting transferred to the cutter instead of the part as its so resistant to the temps, but I thought maybe at a lower temp for the Al in perhaps the higher grade..Does this cherry red heating and quenching of the Ti Temper this or anneal as in brass?..Thank you for the response...
@Thanatos370
@Thanatos370 Жыл бұрын
7075-T6 Aluminum is already tempered, as the "Tx" designation indicates. T6 is a specific grade of tempering (I don't know the exact differences), often seen in military and aviation applications. Good quality AR-15 receivers are made of 7075-T6, among other things. Do you mean anodizing? The surface coating or finish? That's a different process entirely, and actually really easy to do! Search "aluminum anodizing" for lots of information on how to do it yourself - note that if your aluminum already is anodized you're not gonna do much by trying again (there are ways to anodize bare patches on parts that have a coating already).
@susiebrand4083
@susiebrand4083 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Can this process be done using silver/palladium?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
Silver can be darkened with a liver of sulfur patina. Palladium, I have no idea, never used it before.
@Twinracing118
@Twinracing118 4 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what water you use?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
It's oil. Most oils should work.
@Twinracing118
@Twinracing118 3 жыл бұрын
Have WD-40
@Anh_Nam_Khanh
@Anh_Nam_Khanh 7 жыл бұрын
I want to ask the name of the other solution
@Shadow0fd3ath24
@Shadow0fd3ath24 6 жыл бұрын
It's just wd40 and alcohol
@audiencianacional4385
@audiencianacional4385 4 жыл бұрын
Is it safe if i wanna use it as a piercing?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
As long as it's titanium.
@audiencianacional4385
@audiencianacional4385 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings sorry I commited a mistake while typing, I wanted to say “safe” instead “same”
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
From my research, it's *probably* safe, but I couldn't say for sure.
@audiencianacional4385
@audiencianacional4385 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings thanks!!
@AhrionGallegos
@AhrionGallegos 7 жыл бұрын
I definitely want to do this but I don't want it to ruin the durability of the parts I'm blackening. By blackening by bringing the part to a red, doesnt it make the part less durable or brittle?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
Ahrion Gallegos it will certainly change the titanium to some extent, how much would likely depend on the alloy. I suspect grade 2 would remain very similar in properties. I use grade 5, and while I haven't done any tests, it is still quite strong afterwards and working properties seem very similar after heating. Wether or not it's acceptable depends on your application I suppose.
@creativemofoo
@creativemofoo 7 жыл бұрын
Typically heating and quenching metals hardens them.
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
Creative Mofoo that depends entirely on on what metal and alloy is being used plus other factors. For steel that's generally the case assuming a heat treatable alloy. Copper for instance will end up much softer if heated and quenched.
@xcurrent93
@xcurrent93 5 жыл бұрын
As stated below in general it will make steel harder (after annealing) Of course different tool steels need to be quenched in different liquids. In general the letter of the tool steel denotes the liquid. . Like O-1 is (O)il and W2 is (W)water for chisels and files but best in oil for knives. A-7 you don’t quench after you bring it to the critical temperature you let (A)ir cool. But sterling silver is opposite. It gets softer. When I forge silver it work hardens. so I need to soften it to continue to work it. So I heat it up and water quench it to soften it back to a dead soft state.
@jamesbarker9507
@jamesbarker9507 5 жыл бұрын
What are you using to hold the ring?
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone have any idea if the gold colored titanium nitride can be blackened?
@brycerichter4185
@brycerichter4185 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it would work with TiN.
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 4 жыл бұрын
@@brycerichter4185 Thanks. Was really hoping. Would be really easy (easier than painting). Might still try it in the future if I ever get the right chemicals. I'm certain there's a way... just don't know it yet.
@aiyannaguerra8624
@aiyannaguerra8624 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do this to a titanium ring that is rose gold plated on the inside?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 5 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@aiyannaguerra8624
@aiyannaguerra8624 5 жыл бұрын
I figured as much, thanks for replying tho!
@diggumsmack2
@diggumsmack2 7 жыл бұрын
As far as you know, does this method work on most titanium grades? I've had luck quenching in ammonia on a piece I had, worked great(not sure of the grade). Then I tried ammonia quenching on grade 2 ti and it had no effect. So I wonder if your method is workable on most grades, if so that would be great. Thanks for sharing!
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
+diggumsmack2 I haven't tried other grades, but I would tend to think it would work.
@66meikou
@66meikou 7 жыл бұрын
What grade is the Ti you use for rings? I have some Ti knife scales in grade 5 I'd like to try this on.
@minifoil6613
@minifoil6613 11 ай бұрын
This does not work on pure Titanium such as Gr2
@podskrebko
@podskrebko 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for sharing, I've been using niobium for black finish but will definitely give this a go now
@hiba
@hiba 4 жыл бұрын
That's great! will it work with stainless steel?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
Sort of. Sometimes. It's finicky.
@hiba
@hiba 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings Thanks! gotta try!
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 4 жыл бұрын
If you get poor results you can try a different oil. Also the blackened stainless isn't nearly as durable blackened titanium.
@hiba
@hiba 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings Ohh.. :( Thanks for pointing out.. gotta find durable option..
@julypound6717
@julypound6717 7 жыл бұрын
Is titanium treated with oil harmful to the skin? Or can I wear it quietly?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
July Pound to the best of my research, it isn't absorbing the oil, it reacts with the carbon in the oil to form a new oxide layer, which is inert and safe to wear.
@julypound6717
@julypound6717 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for your answer
@jackdale9249
@jackdale9249 2 жыл бұрын
this will weaken the metal isn't there another way ?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 2 жыл бұрын
My experience is that the titanium gets harder from the process.
@rpm_mikem.3496
@rpm_mikem.3496 7 жыл бұрын
awesome👍 thanks so much for sharing
@shaunm2208
@shaunm2208 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@13rebeltitans
@13rebeltitans 5 жыл бұрын
Was the ring stonewashed
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 5 жыл бұрын
Just sandblasted
@juriladwig3516
@juriladwig3516 3 жыл бұрын
@@RichterScaleRings with wich material did u sandblast the ring ?
@CthonautWrangler
@CthonautWrangler 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think this would work on piece that’s already been anodized?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Perkins it should. It worked when I've tried it.
@dimitrijevasiljevic
@dimitrijevasiljevic 7 жыл бұрын
Can this also be used with aluminum or is the heat from the blow torch too much?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
+Samo Dimitrije the heat would turn the aluminum into a puddle. I think there are options to chemically darken aluminum. Though. The process will work for stainless steel though.
@Central_Cali_bourbon_Barrel
@Central_Cali_bourbon_Barrel 7 жыл бұрын
how did you prep your ring? Ive tried this method the results were nothing like yours. im thinking it was in my prepping stages where I failed because after 10 quenches it started getting a thick black layer but only in the middle of my piece and man was it hard to remove.
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
Aaron G media blasted and rougher finishes seem to work better. The smoother, the more difficult it seems to be to blacken. Give it a shot with a rougher finish.
@aarongarcia9062
@aarongarcia9062 7 жыл бұрын
Richter Scale Rings that would explain it. I sanded it to 2k. I’ll blast it next time. Thanks man
@Babette17C
@Babette17C 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I'll be darned ................. thanks!
@frosencarrotz
@frosencarrotz 7 жыл бұрын
How durable is this finish?
@84Eraursls
@84Eraursls 7 жыл бұрын
FrosenCarrotz this is what I would like to know as well. Does the black finish hold up well, or would it be a good candidate for a blackwash finish after the blackening?
@mike102069
@mike102069 6 жыл бұрын
@@84Eraursls how do you blackwash??
@84Eraursls
@84Eraursls 6 жыл бұрын
@@mike102069 after you blacken, stonewash. Some methods work well, other don't. I know big knife companies PVD coat their knives and then stonewash then. This gives a dark finish that hides scratches, and is very durable.
@Greenmachine305
@Greenmachine305 4 жыл бұрын
What is the torch model?
@Reallytallsocks
@Reallytallsocks 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. I'm pretty sure this process would destroy my flashlight 😂
@NoahWoodworth
@NoahWoodworth 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you completely dismantled it
@Reallytallsocks
@Reallytallsocks 4 жыл бұрын
@@NoahWoodworth these things are so press fit that chances are it would destroy the board. But then I could get somebody to build me a new one with a better led. So who knows.
@normg002
@normg002 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone tried this on a ti blade yet?
@regularhumanbeing5211
@regularhumanbeing5211 5 жыл бұрын
Do solid Ti blades even exist lol? i know Ti coat works, but i am curious if those coatings even hold up.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 Жыл бұрын
You'd want to anodise not to mess up the temper.
@kalvinpatrice754
@kalvinpatrice754 7 жыл бұрын
Any oil? Or WD40, specifically?
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Gural any oil should work I think.
@kalvinpatrice754
@kalvinpatrice754 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@trevorrowe7957
@trevorrowe7957 6 жыл бұрын
How long does the color last or is it only a temporary thing?
@XXB4XX
@XXB4XX 6 жыл бұрын
Use old engine oil to get it a rich dark black.
@brettbowers
@brettbowers 4 жыл бұрын
@@XXB4XX This may be a stupid question, but is there a way to source used oil? I don't have a shop with any lying around
@dubUhoo
@dubUhoo 5 ай бұрын
UR A FKIN GOD.
@alisadigout5617
@alisadigout5617 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing is only half the story
@Bob_Dub
@Bob_Dub 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this fantastic bit of information. I used this method to blacken a couple of titanium lanyard beads for my Strider SMF, they're not quite black when sat on something that is, they have more of a blue/grey hue to them, but I'm very please with the results, nonetheless. Plus the fact that I had fun doing it. :D Here's a pic of the results: i63.tinypic.com/34q8bhd.jpg
@RichterScaleRings
@RichterScaleRings 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Dub ya it won't be a total jet black, it does normally have some blueish hue depending on surface finish it seems
@lazyman1011
@lazyman1011 7 жыл бұрын
Please show next time the result a little bit longer and from different angles or do a separate video in future. Thanks for the video anyway.
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