The BMW i8 is slow! Why do I hear this so often?

[@PatsGarageOnline]

What do you think? Is the BMW i8 slow? Why or why not?

[@katanaboyer]

I own the 2016 BMW i8, it is definitely NOT slow. However, I do consider it underpowered for the way it is styled or Looks. I wish that BMW used a 4 cylinder turbo instead of a 3 cylinder. That being said, many people consider it a supercar, and probably expect sub 3 seconds from 0-60 from it, without doing research on actual numbers like you have done. I live in Fayetteville Georgia and many have tried to challenge me at the lights. In closing, I have not lost off the line or on the highway (pedal to the metal), to anyone yet since owning the i8 for over 1 year now. In fact, many guys who have tried to race me get smoked, and its a rewarding feeling knowing that I did not buy a slow car! To all the Mustang's, Camaro's, Challenger's, other BMW's and Mercedes I have left behind in Fayetteville, I want to say nice try! Stock 2016 BMW i8, 0-60 in 3.8 to 4.2.....

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@katanaboyer Awesome! Glad to hear that you are definitely enjoying the i8 and you reinforce fact that it is not slow. That is true. I also with we had the 4 cyl turbo engine. However, I think we got lucky with this as they originally planned to put a 3 cyl diesel in it. Imagine that! Lol! I think another thing that disappoints me with this car is that I fit in with the exotic car crowd, but that means I'm typically hanging around with folks with much faster cars. If I cruise with the vehicles of Savage Garage, I feel extremely underpowered with the lights of a Turbo 911, Urus or Aventador SVJ on my butt. 😂

[@zafzaf6072]

I rented one last year, great fast car, it launches. It's Slower than it looks compared to a ferrari etc, then again it ain't ferrari price, but still has the looks as one, plus mclaren type doors 👍😜

[@drtye3050]

Pat's Garage Online it’s slow for a “new” $100k plus car. Yes im not a moron i know you can easily pick a used one up for high 50’s, low 60’s. For its depreciated price its a fair amount of power but should be no where near a 6 figure sticker when you compare all the better cars you can get for that money.

[@christianwhite7994]

I dont think its slow... but a really good idea for bmw is to make another car that looks just like that but with a twin turbo v6

[@00.50goldeneye]

To be fair, given that other manufacturers have made hybrid “supercars” similar to the i8 with better performance, it’s not too farfetched to say. The EQS, Model S, E-tron GT, and Porsche Taycans all have better stats across the board for similar pricing. Even the E-ray (I know it mentioning more recent vehicles but the points still stands)

[@bronsonbzorgi9761]

I had a Lexus LC500 before I bought my 2019 i8. I heard that it is a beautiful car and very high-tech. I also heard and read that it is slow. Which didn't make any sense because the car spec said otherwise. The first time I drove it, the dealer was sitting next to me, and I noticed he was looking for something to hold on to, so I didn't push it, but after I bought the car, I did push it. This car is fast, I would say as fast as my v8 lc500. It has the same issues as other BMWs, like not being as stable as semi-race cars like LC500 at high speed, but it certainly is not slow. Pat, I think one reason that so people think it is slow is because it is much quieter than the V8 gas engine. When I reached 122mph in my Lexus, there was no doubt that you were going fast.

[@geraldcole3315]

So happy to see this video. I really like the i8 and hope to own one in the near future because it checks so many boxes for me so this comparison of performance to other cars is just icing on the cake. A lot of the cars you mentioned cost less but few of them are mid-engined, coupled to a carbon tub and their engines are double or triple in size. I am not upset because one of the cars you classified slow (2009 M3) sits in my garage but I am jealous.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

The M3 is definitely not slow, but I had to "spread the hate" to all the other cars out there in the same performance class, because if my i8 is slow, then all these other owners should get the same grief. 😂

[@BlueSideUp]

Most people don't "get" the i8 at all Pat. I think this is helpful, you could enhance it with the MPG of the cars on your list to point people to the real difference here. Those cars have similar performance but will in day to day driving get close to 5 times the fuel consumption and CO2 emmissions. Even if some petrolheads don't care about that metric, that's what the i8 is about with its 215 wheels, etc.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I agree. And, as I learn more about this car I can see the #1 focus of BMW was gas mileage and #2 was sound. The car has a visually appealing aesthetic but without considering those 2 points, and to your point, as well, they just don't understand. Thanks for the comment.

[@KimmiM14x]

Awesome video, I was thinking this as well. Why does people say it's SLOW.. Since when is four seconds to 60 and 1/4 mile in 12 seconds SLOW! Sincerely, Kim-Rune Ofstad from the i8 group

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment. I think i8 ownership is different and sometimes different means we gets singled out. I've never had anyone tell me that any of the cars I've owned over the past 30 years were slow. 😂

[@ericandre8615]

that's actually pretty slow for the cars in its price range

[@Chair991]

Audi RS3 is a sporty family car, that costs half what an i8 costs and is still faster. Fucking hell even an S3 almost beats an i8. The i8 is a fucking joke

[@KimmiM14x]

@@Chair991 lmao an S3 is 5 seconds slower from 0-200 kph than an i8, that is not really compareable.. the RS3 is quick and practical but no one bats an eye. Very boring design. The i8 is known for its unique look, has an advanced drivetrain and is built with expensive material like carbon fiber , therefore the cost. You can get a mint secondhand i8 for $60K. in that price range, I would only choose the RS3 if I had a kid and a dog.

[@Chair991]

​@@KimmiM14x No one bats an eye? Are you serious? That 5 cylinder engine sounds amazing and definitely turns heads. And sure the i8 will turn more heads because it looks unique, but it in no way looks better than an rs3. I'd rather have a good looking car that doesn't turn heads than an ugly shitbox car that turns heads just because it's "unique". You can get a "mint secondhand" newer rs3 for less than $40k, so what the fuck is your point? You'd only buy an i8 if you're completely fucking dumb. It gets beaten by practically every fucking sporty car that's half the price. A stock ass base model M2 is miles ahead performance-wise, and looks way better than an i8, while also being more practical, and WAY cheaper.

[@ElectricBlakeGames]

Remember guys, electric motors don't have to be in a power band like an engine Its going to be faster than a comparable gas engine only car, because you aren't having to keep it in a rev range for max power Your gas only car might make 500hp but at 6000rpm Whats it making at 2000rpm? 200? 250? You get the point

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Precisely!

[@hazardeur]

yeah but how long does a sportscar motor stay at 2000? not very long. i love the i8 but it's not much more than ok-ish in terms of speed. the number 1 problem with it is that it looks like a hypercar but it's not even a supercar but rather a quick grand tourer. For how it looks it is indeed slow but it's still a rather fast car compared to your average car

[@paulthorpe766]

@@hazardeur on a twisty canyon road or British B road in damp or close to dry conditions an i8 will leave a two wheel drive 911 991 Porsche - I know we’ve tried it - as it catapults out of corners with instant torque and you can carry more speed and deploy the low Centre of gravity advantage easily. Only Nissan Gtr or Porsche turbo4s or Audi RS3 or Focus RS quicker in those conditions!

[@hazardeur]

@@paulthorpe766 but it's not fun to drive an i8 like that. I tired it.The thin tires are the main issue, i didn't feel very confident behind the i8 wheel because it always feels so wobbly

[@paulthorpe766]

@@hazardeur All I can say is you must be some driver to make an i8 feel wobbly on the public roads - the exercise we did was using some EVO Magazine staffers and pro drivers (incl British Touring Car Champ 2007 and Porsche Supercup champ 2005) on the Magazine's fav local road the B645/660 in the UK.... both pro-drivers said their felt safer, more enjoyable and faster to do the 25.6 miles in the i8 than the 2wd 911 - they were both nearly a minute quicker too. In totally dry road and hot conditions the 911 would be more at home and more rapid than i8 as it could deploy the power better. The second gen i8 has through significant front axle redesign and camber and toe-in changes had nearly all the understeer dialled out (so the tyres bite hard) that the first one had too btw, if you drove the first version. Another good factor though nothing to do with driving is now out of production for a year all i8 values are on the rise too - all low mileage well loved and FSH cars will be over $100,000 in decade, whilst their traditional competion of R8/911 (unless special editions) will be worth about 40-45% of list due to supply outstripping demand.

[@detansinn9882]

It’s not slow at all. We live in a world where kids think that anything with less than 700HP is “slow”.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Good point. Having a bit of age helps us to understand what slow really is. 😂

[@ericandre8615]

but when a car has less then 400 hp and a price tag of over $130,000 i would consider that slow

[@detansinn9882]

@@ericandre8615 What does price have to do with it? HP stat is meaningless without a weight.

[@Chair991]

A stock RS3 that costs HALF what an i8 costs is FASTER. Let that sink in buddy, it gets beaten by sporty family cars for half the price.

[@detansinn9882]

Chair ...and nobody cares.

[@artysgarage]

Great video! I like the comparison between the i8 and c7 and agree with you. My Porsche gt4 is also a low 4s car and people say it’s slow. I just think now a lot of people are use to reading different numbers in the low 3s and automatically say any car in 4s are slow 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thank you! I am a big fan of the GT4. It always gets my attention at car events. And, yes, it is a fast car. I'm also surprised at what people call slow. By the way, I got my first rides in a Murcie and Aventador SVJ this weekend. Jimbo from the Savage Garage channel got a Murci so I was offered rides. The Murci is fast, the SVJ is insane. I'd never daily drive these cars. The i8 is fast enough. The others, I'd drive like a grandpa, afraid to wreck them! 😂

[@artysgarage]

Pat's Garage Online Thank you, I love the Porsche. The SVJ is insane 💪🏼

[@ThomasTomiczek]

Last year I did a tour in the french alps with a number of Porsches, a tuned Jag and a AMG Roadster. The people where looking at my car - with funny comments. Happens the lead car driver ALSO was using an i8 and was surprised and EVERY one who had me behind him was SHOCKED - Out of a corner (remember, mountains) I pull up so fast they ownder whethery I crash into them - the benefit of a full wheel drive and the electric engine giving me a TON of torgu right out. Yes, I was loosing on the REAL straights (sure, 600hp beats me i8), but DRIVING in MOUNTAINS - the i8 was a brutal match. This is a sportive car through and through, with supercar look and a great performance, jsut not a high end supercar performance.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thanks for sharing that experience. I completely agree as I've had the same experience as well. The car does super well at legal speeds in all conditions.

[@pascalbal593]

Salut Pat I am from France in BORDEAUX and I have an I8 like you from 2015. In France there are very few I8 much less than at home and when people look at it they like it very much and do not talk about power. They love the look that is very special with the doors that open. I love driving the i8 and the 362 hp is more than enough. I had before the I8 a turbo porsche and a bmw M2 that were less nervous. Thanks to you and your videos I mounted the rear wing and the blades under the front parechoc. On the other hand I changed the rims because the original ones fit too much in the wings I bought Ac Schnitzer and the look is top! I would also like to reprogram the eprom to have 400hp but I will not do it because I'm afraid to break the engine. Thank you for making your videos that are very good. Good road with the i8 Pascal

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thank you very much for the nice comments. It is my pleasure to share information that may be useful to other i8 owners and am glad you found the other videos useful. It's great to hear that in France, you do not hear comments about the power of the i8. I appreciate you sharing that the i8 is powerful enough compared to the other vehichles you've driven. Thanks!

[@yvesparis7556]

Pat, keep posting those videos, they are great. I got a black mat 2015 i8. It get LOTS of attention. In fact people are more interested on taken pictures than quizzing me about speed. The i8 is not slow, it's a great sports car, as you say....

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thank you!

[@brettrobbins2707]

You just got to tell the person that his 95 vtec civic doing 0-60 in 12.5 secs and quarter mile in 24 secs is slow

[@PatrickKal]

Fantastic video Pat 👏🏼

[@WalrusWinking]

Supercar prices not supercar performance is the summation of this situation

[@BionicBurke]

100% nailed it. The car looks like a hyper car but has the performance of a sports car. Also, it isn't just about straight line speed. An 8:19.80 is slow around the Nurburgring.

[@antwonrichardson9324]

Thanks for the information man 👌💯 very helpful,I will be getting me a i8💵

[@1stWorldProblemsSolved]

I think when people say slow I think most are referring to the end potential of the car...platform wise...you are stuck with not many options unless you want to create your own.

[@1stWorldProblemsSolved]

e.g. a new corvette is actually slow compared to a new supra...for 1/2th the $$$$ you shave off at least a second in the 1/4 mile.

[@hoodoo2001]

My 2005 Toyota Corolla will do 1/4 mile. Been doing it for 16 years. Starter broke about 4 years ago. Dead battery a couple of times (Texas heat). Flat tire a couple of times. - That is about it. (knock on wood). Never have gotten it over 80, have always tried to keep it under 2500 RPM. Looks like the Catalytic converter may be dying of old age. Oh yeah, paints gone.

[@jasonspink1981]

The bmw I8 is definitely slow when comparing to vehicles OF SIMILAR COST… even an M5 which is almost 50k$ cheaper, is 2 seconds faster in the quarter mile. How about the Tesla model x (also cheaper). The I8 doesn’t live up to its supercar image when there is nothing super about it except for looks 😂.

[@davidw.7275]

I personally think that when people say this car is slow, they mean slow for the money. If youre paying 6 digits msrp for a car brand new then yeah compared to other cars in that price bracket it is slow, at least in comparison to the car you used as an example, the C7. Which can be had for half the price. The i8 depreciated so much though that you can pick up a used one for 60-70k which brings it closer to the price of a corvette.Outright performance numbers are not the point of this car though and the car fills a niche of the market right now not being addressed by other brands. The cost of the R&D of it is also considerably more than that of a vette. Pat though, I've not seen anyone in the car space here on youtube drag so many cars, and do it so well. lol hats off to you sir, keep enjoying the car!

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thank you, David! I love your response and agree. Looking to the future, the depreciation curve may flatten completely and then go up. There is still a lot of love for this car and it is attainable for the "average person" like me. Let's see where it goes. And it's design is clearly a winner or Koenigsegg wouldn't have rolled out the Gemera which is just a hyper i8. 😁👍

[@TommyMcDermott]

This video is funny. I bet the people who say their slow probably don't own a high performance car or are jealous or they get to caught up on the fact its 1.5 engine powering the car. hardly say its slow. It might not be as fast as it looks but I'm sure when you put your foot down you feel it and secondly why does it matter how fast it is once it puts a smile on your face when you drive it and you enjoy it that's all that matters.

[@Renzo.Fortini]

Idk a 2018 mustang gt can do a 1/4 run in 11.89 and it costs about 30k im expecting better numbers with a cost of over 100k

[@PatsGarageOnline]

That's correct, the Mustang can do that. I looked at average numbers I found on the web based on test results. But, it's definitely possible to get more out of a car, dependent on weight, tires, intake air mass, track conditions, etc.

[@metalfight1234]

Mustang GT is a muscle car whose sole purpose is to go fast in a straight line. The i8s purpose is entirely different. The looks, the technology, the feeling. Should the i8 be a little faster for its price? Probably yeah. But that’s why you get one used :)

[@drcracer]

I plan on getting one of these when I get back from my deployment! But I lean on both sides of this. I personally think it’s fast, but the problem is, unless anyone else knows different, it will be very hard/expensive to make it any faster. All I’ve seen is a tune and exhaust out there for it that might get you to 400hp. Where corvettes, camaros, and mustangs have strong aftermarket support for performance upgrades that will make them a lot faster. I’m a wrench head, I put a duramax in a Chevy Avalanche, and a turbocharged snowmobile engine in a RZR. The fact that I may not be able to do much to the I8 may drive me nuts. But heck, with those performance numbers, and the fuel economy at those numbers....I may be able to overlook that hahaha. And that’s one thing all those cars can’t touch, is the i8’s fuel economy! Great channel by the way!

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thanks! You know what you're doing with a wrench, that's for sure! I also miss mods as I did a lot of those to my C5 Corvette. But, the minor mods that we can do may not be represented correctly on the dyno. Those who have done a tune have higher HP and Torque numbers but not much of a change in 60-100 times, for example. According to those in the know, the car is tuned as well as they could tune it and still keep longevity. If you are looking to make major mods, Edo Popken is the trend setter right now. He had his hands in the i8ProCar in Europe and is currently testing new heads, cam, bigger turbo and intercooler. He's also done a carbon ceramic brake rotor/pad swap with success. I value my i8 a bit too much to do major mods but with high mileage i8's showing up on CarGuru's in the high $40k price range, they're appealing for someone looking to make these mods. Check out his instagram: instagram.com/edomotorsport/

[@drcracer]

Pat's Garage Online Yeah I hear that little 3 cylinder is pretty much maxed out. And even with the bigger battery in the 2019, specs haven’t gone up much. But it’s still a slick car. I’ll be moving up from a 335D that I hydrolocked in a rainstorm 😕

[@katanaboyer]

I agree with the aftermarket support for all the Corvettes, Camaros, and Mustangs but the BMW i8 running stock will smoke most of them. I love the look and styling of the BMW i8, it truly is on a separate level that is hard to beat regardless of speed. It's BAD ASS!! Stylish, Sexy, Sleek, Elegant and Sophisticated all rolled up into one.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@katanaboyer Thanks for the nice comment. Yes, it definitely is one of the most unique and better looking sports cars on the road. I sometimes lose sight of that. I recently modified my exhaust and am happy with the more aggressive sound I'm getting. I guess part of what I wasn't happy with was it being too quiet. I'll have a video soon on how I made this happen for $0.

[@katanaboyer]

@@PatsGarageOnline I also often forget that the i8 is in a class of its own when it comes to style. Many people automatically think of it as a supercar due to its unique design, but I agree with you, that it is a sports car that was originally designed as a concept. I also agree with the sound issues on the i8 and have thought about doing some modification to it. The only issue is that my vehicle is still under the factory warranty and if I decide to modify the exhaust for better sound and performance, it will void the factory warranty. I look forward to seeing your video on your exhaust mod. I have looked around extensively and I really like the look of the 3D design exhaust/sound. They also make a custom carbon fiber rear defuser that goes with the exhaust and it looks insane! My only other gripe about the vehicle is the short battery life, 20 mile range is not much at all in todays E-Car market. I wish BMW will come up with a new battery that we can just swap out to get more miles on a full charge. Overall, I have not been disappointed with my vehicle. I did however upgrade the wheels to 22" BM14 Savini wheels, and it changed the look of the car, making it look even more like a supercar. I also noticed increase in cornering performance, it is much more stable on the corners. here is a link to the photo of my vehicle BMW_i8_with_22in_Savini_BM14_Wheels_11662_28294_extra_large.jpeg

[@carzguyz5142]

Hey Pat...I'm thinking that maybe the idiots calling it slow are "Slow" themselves. 🤔 Great job and no worries my friend. Your car is awesome and it's not slow. There can be an argument made on price vs performance perhaps but then again, you mentioned tons of examples that cost a lot more than your bimmer. So sleep well Patty. Great upload !!! 😉👍

[@PatsGarageOnline]

JT! Thanks for stopping by, my friend. You are right, there are many examples of so many different platforms operating on so many different levels. It took some time to do the research and actually talk through this to realize the i8 is something different. I never intended to upload a video on this since it's more controversial. I don't usually like to rock the boat. But, the i8 owners are sometimes the red-headed step children, ha! I'm still a Vette-guy at heart, tho. I might walk away from an i8 hater but don't anyone dare say something about the Corvette. 😂

[@craigwilliams3099]

Iv owned mine for a week now , an like most other people didn’t really like bmw , this is my first bmw an wouldn’t consider driving any other , since owning it have noticed it gets a lot of hate from everyone including bmw drivers ( jealously mainly ) so can see why people would say it , but until u drive this car u don’t understand how fast it is ,

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Same for me, my first BMW and my first import. And that is a good point. Unless you drive it, you don't understand the power. Truth is, this is no slouch, especially for a 3 cylinder.

[@Fullthrottle4402]

OK so my nephew just said this car was slow and it started a whole debate. But what you said at the end is what the issue really is. My nephew thinks it's a supercar and I did as well. He thinks for the price and the way it's built it should go 200 or better on the dash. I'm just waiting for the price to go down I wouldn't mind having one.

[@Manu-Official]

Funny how people mention MPG. Because Jeremy Clarkson drove the i8, and concluded by saying the MPG is rubbish.

[@reginaldriggins6642]

I truly want this car now the work effort is hard to me but I believe I can do it. It’s gonna be the first expensive thing I’m gonna buy.

[@Hiyoohiyoo]

Loved it 🤣, thank you!

[@mrkatana9233]

Just got mine and it feels like I’m driving a piece of paper with a turbo.. I’m happy lol

[@rodgerlee7302]

Pat, I love this video. Very useful information when discussing my i8 with others. Actually all your vids have very useful and interesting info about the i8. Any chance I can get a copy of the list of cars you compared to in this video? Thanks!

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I put them all in the description.

[@rodgerlee7302]

@@PatsGarageOnline Thank you. I overlooked that.

[@djejnyc]

I think it's just the looks are so amazing, basically. Hey Pat, can you give us some tips on buying a used i8? I'm seriously thinking about it and I'm sure it would make a great video

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I've been working on the dialogue for an i8 used car buying tips video. There's so much on my mind and I want to make sure I cover it all. So, it's on the way, hopefully soon. Thanks!

[@paulthorpe766]

If you have the money get a post 17 (totally improved front end and 31mile range car) Spyder is best investment if you can live without rearseat luggage area. If you drive a lot at night get a Lazer lighted one as STD lights are only adequate. Any car from 14-17 is fine if it's had its belts $1200 done at 4 yrs, and the fuel sensor on flap is fixed and the coolant issues are also fixed - otherwise they are bulletproof investment! Ps tried 4 other manufacturers tyres and they are noisy and get rear sliding too easily those S02 Bridgestones are very suited to car !

[@MrRandomTwat]

@@paulthorpe766 Would you consider the facelifted coupe as a good investment also? Proper ones are around 90k euros at the moment, not sure what would make more financial sense, a 90k facelifted coupe or a 65-70k-ish pre-facelift coupe.

[@paulthorpe766]

@@MrRandomTwat The later coupe drives better (no understeer and 30 miles electric) buy on price not spec though - in UK facelifted 18 coupes can be had with low miles for £65,000 so about $83,000 - the roadster mind is only £8k more and I drive mine through winter as it's quiet and hood is so well made you forget it's a roadster - tbh all i8s will be good news in just 4-5 more years and they'll all be well over $100,000 within 7-8 yrs. The car is definitely the next M1, Z8, CSL, SLS (which I also have) if kept under 50,000 miles and main dealer history is retained and car is 100% stock. Budget $2500-3000 a year maintenance though after year 4 warranty for A/c coolant ancillary issues - but you'll save that in fuel and insurance over say a R8 or 911 and that will depreciate on a long term downward curve (bottoming after 10-12 years) unless halo version like touring or gt3/rs . Ps Values in Germany of all i8s have gone up 15-20% in 2020 alone...other countries will follow! On pure investment criteria alone I suspect the Roadster will be twice the price of a coupe in 20 yrs as circa only 3,000 made versus 30,000 coupes and it keeps the doors and practicality of coupe unlike say SLS ROADSTER.

[@MrRandomTwat]

@@paulthorpe766 Thanks for the feedback! I guess I have to think my finances through... the investment side of the roadster is definitely a huge plus but when I look on bmw.de (certified pre-owned) or mobile.de, they do go for a pretty big premium even now. And an i8 for me is already a borderline stupid purchase, the only reasonable excuse of buying a 100k car in my situation, would probably be the fact that it will most likely hold it's price better than for example a regular 50-60k premium brand car which is a more reasonable price for a car considering my salary. I don't live paycheck-to-paycheck so occasional few thousand euro bills are not a huge concern but wouldn't want them to be regular. The big appeal of an i8 for me is the fact that I could own a pretty exotic car with decent fuel economy and hopefully not too bad insurance rates (haven't asked for a quote yet). I don't have any kids so the limited storage is not an issue either.

[@spencerjansen5656]

It’s not slow. However. I’ve had 2 i8’s, a 2016 Protonic Red and I now have a 2018 Copper Roadster. I had both Tuned by Celtic Tuning, which gives just under 400 bhp. (It was done on a rolling road) Not bad as you are just tuning a 1.5 engine. The difference in feel at the top end is a marked difference, it goes from a wow to a holy shit. Give it a try.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thanks for the comment! I sure wish we had tuners who would do a rolling tune, here in the states. If you can feel a difference on the top end, then that's certainly something that would be beneficial to us all. I'll check Celtic Tuning out.

[@daniepretorius6594]

That sounds really impressive.

[@shelbyhaiketic4212]

What was ur 0-60 after the tune ? Was it under 4 seconds ???

[@shelbyhaiketic4212]

I’m in the market for a used i8, how is it to maintain the car and reliability ??

[@mercator79]

"that is slow" said anyone who has never driven it. It's friggin awesome. Those of us that own one :D

[@dadtype2339]

I think something pretty major that folks overlook is, lol something very impressive, and that is, those numbers, even with or especially without the electric motor, ummm, folks that's a straight 3....just three cylinders!!! And 4.4 secs to 60 back in 2015 without having to go into hypercar country, I think it's impressive, and this was a demonstration as to what BMW could do during a time when we really didn't have a lot of hybrid, not at all like we have today in choices in cars, and none looked as sweet as this. They all looked like frogs that had been stepped on, or shaped like a kids chewable vitamin. At one time the top limit a car could go was 30 mph!!! Lol can you dig it man!? So, a glimpse of the future is what BMW did here and gave use pretty much what the concept car looked like and considering this was doing those numbers back then and even today 4 secs to 60, isn't bad at all, and definitely isn't slow, and out of a 3 cylinder gas engine, I don't care about the .4 of a second, lol that's so fast no one is counting that. Anyway people who say this is slow, THEY are slow. Thumbs up. Lol it's faster than walking which a lot of the kids in this generation are doing unless rich Mommy or Daddy are handing out their rides. It's a very cool example from BMW. And I'm glad you don't try to be in your 20s with it nor deck it out like a 17 year old who got a 100 dollar AutoZone gift card and shopped in the sticker section with fake plastic peddles, racing decals go home slap all that on to add that 30 more horses to tune up that car and call themselves a "mechanic". Thumbs up!

[@doingoodorg]

I have a ‘14 i8 and instruct thru PCA in a Porsche GT3. I’ll suggest that the i8 is consistently easy to drive fast. For someone that knows how to drive very well the GT3 is quicker, and obviously has a higher top and speed, but takes more knowledge as well. Jumping on an entrance ramp, as well as a twisty mountain highway, is a blast in the I8

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I appreciate your perspective as an instructor in the GT3. Thanks for sharing your experience! Also, I've often considered adding or replacing the i8 with a GT3. I am currently looking at advertisements but have yet to look at one for sale.

[@karlhillcoat-williams8674]

Pat, a perfect review and assessment of the misperception of what is slow. Yes agreed it looks everything of a supercar, however is in my opinion a proof of concept exotic sportscar. Your list was in no way derogatory, but a factual and relevant comparison. You nailed it... right description and placement.... it's an impressive supercar.

[@n0slava]

Hey Pat! Will the performance of this BMW i8 drop when the electric motor is currently below (for example) 50% power? Or will they provide maximum power as long as it is not completely discharged?

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Power will be the same until the indicator on the dash says 0 miles of range remaining or three dashes ---. Then it needs recharge either via sport mode or external power

[@n0slava]

@@PatsGarageOnline Thank you for the mega-quick reply. Sub flies 😉 I asked this question because in one article the editor wrote that the less batteries, the worse the performance. It broke me, because I want to buy this car by the end of this year. Thanks again for your reply and wish You all the best, cherrs 🤟

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@n0slava you're welcome! I have felt no difference in performance until the battery was low. This also happened on the Dyno. So many hard pulls drained the battery down after a few hours and without quick recharge, we had to call it a day. Edo Popken races his i8 and has consistent lap times until battery is low as well.

[@pilotf18]

It does not matter if it is a little bit slower from a corvette.. personally I dont care. This car is a technological evolution unique of its kind! Its one of the most beautiful cars in the world, amazing design lambo style doors 4 seats and 4wd! It also gives you the option to drive it with as low consumption as 3.1L gasoline per 100 km.

[@Arun999]

I dunno. But I am wondering if that engine can handle a turbo upgrade and more boost?

[@PatsGarageOnline]

According to Edo Motorsport, it can. The problem is cooling and how to cool not only the charge air but keep the engine temperatures down while it's producing more power.

[@Arun999]

@@PatsGarageOnline thanks pat

[@bulelanibaqwa]

Not slow at all. This car is a sports daily driver for the young corporate exec., that wants to be fast sometimes, but also environmentally conscious while looking cool. Low fuel bill, cool looks and comfortable car. You always feel like driving it

[@ITsupportian]

I think the design of appearance is so pretty and fast that they expect it to see a under 3 seconds car.

[@legojuggalo1483]

Here is why... the majority of these i8 owners talk shit to streetcar owners.... cool you spent 150k on it and think it's fast.... my 10k civic build will beat it. My ctsv 2650 spank it bad. It's not the car... its the douchebag owners.

[@jeffreynavarro7838]

Hey Patt, I saw a guy displaying the Google website with internet access in the bmw i8, is that feature available in your bmw i8 2015?

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I believe he installed an aftermarket head unit

[@coastaleddie5017]

Absolutely Love your channel! I appreciate all the time that you put into producing superb content! Cheers from Orange County, Southern California.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thank you so much for stopping by and leaving the nice comment. It's my pleasure to offer advice and thoughts on the i8!

[@DonGleesh]

I’m super late.. but ask to see their key fob & laugh 🤷🏾‍♂️. Most people that say it’s slow can’t afford the car or base their opinions on what others have said. Happy Monday!

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I love the "ask to see their key fob" response! I'm going to start doing that!

[@malikwrighttBmoreAtl]

Just the things I needed to hear

[@mgrmln]

Like you, I love my i8. My other car is a modified Nissan GT-R so, compared to that car, it is slower, but hardly what anyone could realistically call “slow” overall. I think haters, misunderstand the vehicle’s intent and just make those kinds of comments. This car was a brave and forward looking example of new materials, power trains and technology. And even 5 years on, still looks like it came from the future.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I appreciate you sharing your perspective from owning and driving a faster car, the GT-R. I was on a rally with a GT-R in front of me and it was pulling away every time we reached a straight stretch. I can appreciate the power that car produces! I agree that it was a brave design, and I'm glad BMW took the risk to make the concept a production model. I think that's the big thing going for the i8.

[@marcossantiago1929]

Do you know if you can bypass the electric motor heating and cutting power? Like installing a cooling system

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I don't know

[@olalesio9260]

Funny thing is, i think it goes from 0 to 60 faster than 4 sec in sports mode, it is super fast

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I have a Dragy which will measure times, and need to get out and see what my actual car can do.

[@bruneves85]

I have seen reports of 3.8s with launch mode. Pat, first, awesome content! Thanks for being a high quality creator! Second, was wondering if you had a chance to test the 0-60 times with Dragy?

[@rslforever1]

It is slow for how much it costs. A brand new i8 is ~$150K. A brand new Shelby GT350R (which you compared the i8 to) is ~$80K. For the price of the i8 you could buy a new M5 Comp and still have ~$30K left over

[@saintreem]

or a i4 m50 and a m4 competition

[@omardecasas]

Basically the car looks like a 200+ mph car but it’s a 160 mph car

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I agree.

[@Evapors]

160 is still 160.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@Evapors I let up at 138. Too much speed for me. 😉

[@tomhanhart5921]

Did you ever drive so fast? I did last year in Germany and beside the fact the i8 felt like rolling on a railway I thought yet faster would be criminal on public streets. Other cars stood still from my point of view. And in fact they now think about introducing a speed limit, since this was issued by a majority of the Verkehrsrat lately. Would be fine with me.

[@RobCarstuff9112]

Maybe "Slow" But do you have a car that looks tis GOOD?

[@ActiYT]

LOOK AT THAT INSTANT FEEDBACK PAT

[@PatsGarageOnline]

This video did well compared to what I thought. Sometimes, just talking about feelings in front of a camera seems to connect well with my viewers. 😀

[@ActiYT]

@@PatsGarageOnline P.E.R.S.O.N.A.L.I.T.Y

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@ActiYT .... ._ .... ._

[@mosaicmonk4380]

i love your vids bro

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thank you!

[@mrgee325]

One other thing that people don't take into consideration is it's handling, especially when you ditch the standard Bridgestones (which in my opinion are poor) and replace them with pilot sport 4s. The i8 can out handle the majority of cars out there Inc supercars and it does it with ease. And I have owned and driven a lot of fast cars. Like you say it looks like a supercar so people expect to see 600hp up, but its very capable with what it has. And the way it uses its torque even at low speed and rpm will fool people into thinking its 500hp+ :)

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I appreciate the comments and glad to hear from you, someone who has driven a lot of fast cars. Knowing the i8 is very capable, when the right tires are mounted, is definitely reassuring. It's amazing how 10HP more than my C5 Corvette shaves 2 seconds off the quarter mile time. BMW did a very interesting thing with this car. Thanks!

[@ElectricBlakeGames]

@@PatsGarageOnline The Electric Motor doesn't have to be in a certain RPM range for Power It can call on Max Power from the Electric Motor instantly Whilst your Vette is stuck waiting to be in the RPM range where it makes top power 10hp is not the difference its the instant power off the line with AWD Traction that make the difference!

[@johnmick9457]

The I8 is not slow it's stealthy fast!

[@ChasingTheApex]

Slow in comparison to? What, a koenigsegg? Stats do not tell a driver's truth

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I need to start asking that question, when I hear people say that. On paper, it's on par with the 4C, but if someone drove both cars I can see them saying that the 4C is fasted because of the experience. The i8 is refined, feels like it's holding back, and doesn't surprise people. It's totally a different car than what others expect it to be.

[@ChasingTheApex]

@@PatsGarageOnline literally our channel exists, only for that one purpose, to find and share driving truth. I can't tell how you many times I had read, or heard, or was told, something was terrible, or overrated, and then put that vehicle through its paces myself, and thought. "What kind of driving Exactly were they doing, when they reviewed this?" I suspect the i8, (which I think is the catalyst to the modern supercar of all variations) is far better than has ever been written about, in her natural habitat. Sure shes slow, in comparison to the Space Shuttle.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@ChasingTheApex I recall you reiterating that people really need to drive the cars to understand them and to understand their purpose. I look forward to your future content! Yes, the i8 truly does amaze me for what it is, a hybrid, quiet car. If it was compared to another quiet hybrid car, like it probably should be, then people might consider it to be fast in it's class. But, it's looks are quite deceiving.

[@atzabalah]

Trust me, this culture about point at that saying that is "slow" comes from the non sense comparation of just compare only that point of a car, for example, people say: an R8 cost similar but is faster. Yeah, but you just don´t but the speed, you buy a whole product, and the value of each car that each person perceive depends of all of it, that include the look, performance, comfort, tech items on the car, etc. If you only care about speed, maybe you should look for a Tesla and tune it, but sure you´ll like other things too. So, for that, even care about why the people say those things, is already non sense.

[@nicerumble]

Interesting video. Personally I think if the internet warriors are calling the i8 slow it's only because they are focused on the motor. They probably don't know much about the car other than the fact that it has a turbocharged 3 cylinder motor out of the Mini Cooper. They equate number of cylinders with power. They also don't take into account the electric motor up front. The internet is filled with a lot of uninformed boy racers.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Thanks for insightful comment. A 3 cylinder engine certainly does have a negative affect on the vehicle as a whole. I can see why many folks would look at that and dismiss it as a performance car.

[@omaryasin2720]

It’s not that the car it’s self is slow. The issue is for the price it’s performance is lacking

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I agree and I have been saying that for a few years now. However, I just bought a 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 which cost 30k more for the same performance and people drool over that car. The same people that blew me off for having an i8 are excited to see my slow Porsche.

[@jessemedel1243]

Almost every car listed was half the price or even less than half the price of an i8 and the others are almost a decade or older than an i8 😂 150k for a sports car that does 0-60 in more than 4 seconds and 12s in the 1/4 is a joke. A GTR 0-60 in 3.5 or less seconds, an m5 0-60 in 3.5 seconds or less, c7 ZR1 0-60 in 3 seconds, list some cars around the same price range and the same age as an i8 and see the difference.

[@dmcc2873]

2015 Bentley Cont GT Conv, $250,000, 0-60 4.1. Wow, that's SO SLOW.

[@petercarey6883]

Well Pat, maybe you should be drinking a Slo Gin Fizz, since the I8 is soooo slow. 🍸 And then when you pull up next to another slow I8, you put down your window and say, "Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?" 🤣 Now, when we met in Carlisle, if you had told me, which maybe you did, that the I8 only only had 357HP, I would have said "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."🤦‍♂️ But as I remember, while you were tutoring me about the I8, I just wanted to know about the car, the whole car, especially all the electronics in that I was overwhelmed by it and still am. Now, I like numbers, but the numbers the manufacturers put out, like 0 to 60mph times are NOT obtainable by most of us. I'll let you research because I forget, but my C6 GS is supposed to do 0 to 60 in approx. 4.4 seconds. Yeah, right. I've got 430hp stock and weigh about 3,400lbs without me in it. I tried maybe four of five times before I tweaked the hp and not once did I even get close. Anyway, the I8 has 93 less hp than I do and you weigh how much more? The I8 shouldn't even be as fast as it is IMO. So my long-winded aforementioned comment to you and others, is why would anyone say the I8 is slow. For that matter, why would anyone even say my antique GS is slow? It can and still does, blow the lint of my navel and that's pretty much all that matters. The one aspect of your I8 that works against you and other I8 owners is the damn thing LOOKS just too good AND fast. Whatever "fast" is these days. Save the Wave.🙋‍♂️🗽

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Hi Peter! Slo Gin Fizz was my go-to for many years, as I wasn't keen on alcohol that didn't have some sweetness to it. It would be the perfect combination for the slow i8 (when I'm not driving). 😂 We save the grey mustard stuff for the Rolls inhabitants around here like Randy Savage. You are right, yourr C6 GS shows 4.4sec and low 13's in tests, which is very appropriate for the upgrades that were made after the C5. The C7 was also an incremental upgrade so it all lines up. The i8 is also 3400lb but with 2 motors (one electric, the other gas turbo), it is also AWD and has less driveline loss to the wheels, also has launch control for increased performance, and faster shifts with a dual clutch transmission. So, those are definitely factors that influence the i8 compared to other platforms. It can do more with less HP. It's not the 700HP+ beast that a lot of people think it should be based on looks. However, Edo Popken is working on improved heads, cams, turbo and intercooler to get it into the 500's. I have no idea how it will perform, then, but I'm sure it will costs in the 10's of thousands to get it there. Too rich for me with a BMW (Broke My Wallet)!

[@petercarey6883]

During the creation of my above Epistle, I forgot the weight of the I8 and was a heavy baby at probably 4,300lbs. Obviously my dyslexia was at work as you state it 3,400lbs. This is just another area where the I8 has been so well thought out and engineered through the use of all the composite materials used. But the I8 does come at a cost. So, the only "It's soooooo . . . " statement I can make is that it's soooo expensive. Interesting about what your friend Edo Popken is doing. (What a great name.🤤) I think you should splurge on his performance package when it becomes available. That way you can boast that you have the Fastest "Slow" I8 in the country AND it's been accomplished only a 153 more hp!👍 I just noticed that since my earlier comment you pierced the 300 subscriber mark. Here's to you, Jin-Jin and cheers. I'll dust off a bottle of my Grandmother's Bathtub 90 year old Gin and bring it to Carlisle for you. It'll be my performance upgrade to you so that you can have the fastest Slo Gin Fiz in the country. Enjoy your weekend. In about another 12 hours I'll be enjoying mine. I'm already back in the deep freeze , currently at 16 degrees and will then be receiving more snow to compliment the cold. 🤦‍♂️ Gotta go. Time to mix up an advance batch of Hot Toddy's and then let simmer in the Crock Pot for proper "aging." 🤣

[@donkeyworksgarage]

Pat, you sir have spent way to much time validating the obvious performance of this car. But great video!

[@lamenamethefirst]

0-60 times bragging rights ruins cars.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Agreed. I absolutely loved driving my 2006 Porsche Cayman S regardless of it's 0-60 times.

[@blackbirdmusick]

I don't expect performance from a Maserati... I expect it to not be super slow I know some have Ferrari engines. But they aren't speed kings. They're spiced up Chryslers

[@ast1897]

He says you sit in a corvette and the interior looks fast!?? This car has been around for almost a decade at this point and while it may have been a good starting point for performance electric cars in the BMW line up, it hasn't evolved and is no longer relevant.

[@Evapors]

This obvious hate. Numbers don't lie. I just laugh at the haters. It's their way of saying i wish i had one!

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Truth!

[@danambrosewon]

😂😂 so funny, all those cars ... Slow 😂

[@HeidiandFranny]

Our 996TT X50 is 4sec 0-60 with 450/450 hp & torque... never heard anyone call that "slow"... The i8 may not be super fast (performance above 60mph) but it is quick! It sure isn't slow... rubbish... ask them if it is why they sold theirs ;) f

[@PatsGarageOnline]

That 996 should do mid-11s on a good day. Definitely not in the slow category (like the i8). LOL! Thanks for chiming in!

[@Evapors]

I still love seeing Heidi and Franny because it was one of the first i8 videos i saw that influenced me to buy one! Thank you both and thanks Pat!!!

[@10melvis]

Tesla made every other car look slow. A 55k model 3 does zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds. A 75k model s does it in 3.7 and 100k in 2.3. 100k model x is 2.6 and 60k model y 3.5. The x and y are SUVs while the s and 3 are sedans. You are also cherry picking older models a new 60k corvett c8 base model is 3 seconds zero to 60. A 160k acura nsx is 3 seconds 0 to 60.

[@brois841]

I had to watch this video at 1.5x speed.... so maybe it's not the car that's slow? Jk... interesting perspective. I think the big difference is as you said: the performance lasts a few seconds whereas the cars you're comparing against can maintain that performance over and over. Also, most of the cars you're comparing to aren't tuned for 0-60, whereas the i8 is, due to the electric motor. I still think it's a beautiful car, but given the price tag (starting at $150k) you'd expect a bit better. BMW prioritized efficiency over power, which is fine, but people spending $150k+ on a car don't always care about gas mileage, if you know what I mean.

[@robbielopez8958]

My man out hear roasted all these cars . 😄

[@richardalek3893]

Nah once you drive a Tesla this is so slowww

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@richardalek3893 truth

[@AvianaAircraft]

There will always be a faster car, but you can’t beat the looks and driving ease.

[@onno1231]

Its seems slow for a car that is made of carbon fibre with that price tag but its still quick

[@charleylandan3612]

better go to rehab after that sip

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I think that's why they put REHAB on the can. It's a reminder. 😂

[@scmoww12]

Also tired of people calling my car a ugly super Prius. I also own a 2015 BMW I8. The person who said that was driving a Ford SVT. Long story short we met at the light. Iiiiiiiiiiiiiii8888888888

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Yep, I definitely get a lot of Prius comments as well. The car surprises a lot of people when they see it perform. I think those who haven't driven it would be in for a big surprise. A 3cyl hybrid should not perform as well as this car does.

[@projex7836]

It’s respectable if it’s an inline 3 (1.5 L) hybrid with 354 hp and about 400 Nm of torque!

[@rohetti940]

why do Pat and Rich Rebuilds think speed is defined by 0-60 and quarter mile? Cars of this ilk need to be fast around a closed course. The i8 has skinny tires. It doesn't corner like a supercar. It is slow.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I went with 30mm wider tires and it substantially increased grip. Edo Popken of Edo Motorsport is tracking his i8 and at Bilster Berg in Germany and got a 1:49 lap time. The GT2RS has the record of 1:42 on the same track. fb.watch/2Qe5Q5S20L/

[@klausnielsen7102]

They (i8 haters) have made up there mind... owners of i8 on the other hand never complain!

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Very true!

[@Evapors]

Facts! no complaints here. I love mines!

[@duderu4real94]

It’s a super car it’s just very economical for a sports car.

[@thatonelegend817]

You really neglect the fact that you could buy 2 of any of the corvettes or mustangs new and still had change instead of paying 160k for a i6

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I paid 80. I would suggest most people buy something other than an i8. I got lucky. Really didn't have any major issues and sold it for 78. Only cost me 2k in depreciation to drive it for 2 years (pre-c0vid)

[@thatonelegend817]

@@PatsGarageOnline that just means someone else had to pay sticker price but still thats a really steep price tag for a car that has to fake exhaust noises and that low of top speed. Like the novelty is nice but for how copy and paste the interior is to other bmws I personally wouldnt like it

[@PatsGarageOnline]

@@thatonelegend817 I agree. It was a fun car for a couple years but the NSX and GT4 I own now are a totally different league.

[@travisbarnes6759]

Spends over 60k to be electric capped slower than 12 sec 1/4 mile to then compare faster cars at half the cost. Your slow, just be happy

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I got sick of being called slow so I bought a 2017 Acura NSX. Now, people are telling me that car is slow. I ran a 10.88 in a quarter with the Dragy but apparently that's not fast enough either. Top fuel here I come! 🤣

[@duderu4real94]

Wow Pat, you sure blew that perception away 😆

[@reggiesparks4357]

My used 540 dinan 5 will go from wow to holy mother of Jesus without a speaker in the exhaust! You can talk up the new digital cars but in the end there is nothing and I mean nothing as complete as a light mid sized sedan with a standard transmission and rear wheel drive(or at least the option of 2 wd).the ev are just bad assed ( face it)but they are not yet ready for prime time.3cyls and a nine volt for a 150,000 technical 🌙 nightmare.number one rule when owning a bmw....well my rule one anyway is....don't let it get hot.....if you must shut it off don't hesitate....turn it off.these i8 are prone to getting hot 🔥everything is maxed out and it will run like wind this is true.but don't get it hot. So are all cars ,I've had many Bmw s and I love them .I 've owned e30,e46 ,e39,e90,e92....among those were 2 m cars.sometimes size matters.a 6 cyl with turbo or turbos is not a replacement for a v8...I disagree with Bmw for using 4 & 6 cyls to replace a bigger natural aspirated motor...the bearings can't take it and the heat will destroy all around it. To me fun is not the i8,it's the m5......slower and bigger m5.I no future is ev.

[@iglives4150]

He compared i8 to a c5 corvette lmao i8 slow

[@PranavPothula]

this video was really funny

[@paulthorpe766]

With an i8 every horsepower gets to the road via torque vectoring (4s Porsche 911 turbo only other car that can deploy power on the road so well. Even my 2014 RS6 threw away power through front axle under heavy throttle). Thus in the real world on wet twisty uk b roads i8 will leave anything other than say an Audi RS3/A45 AMG - by comparison I have a 710bhp SL 65 that can only put down about 250-300bhp on the road, it is useless in wet and on b roads - as the rest of bhp escapes in steam from road or in tyre smoke! i8 is fast enough and is super light and stiff chassis and very low centre of gravity = result of very fast progress

[@Smokey-mt6ye]

It's slow for the price range maybe that's how some view it.

[@hmongsunglass8981]

Dude i8 is plenty fast. Its easy for these kids when they just read spec sheet. They should try beating it with their actual car (not their friends or mom's car) first then they can say whatever they want.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

That's so true. Lots of folks have never driven something as fast as an i8. I'm not one to crap on anyone's cars. I went from a dailying my 2007 Sport Trac, to my Dodge Dart to the i8. But, I'd never tell the owners of those other vehicles how slow they were. People are -nuts- brave sometimes. 😂

[@mpowerchetty]

Unfortunately, it is slow!! Well, it's just not fast. I love it though. My X5M is a lot faster. So hoping into an i8 feels super slow.

[@timothywalker5160]

None of those cars he name are slow 🐌 believe me the i8 is not slow with the weight and less hp...

[@chrisdabeee6577]

Bist ein guter Kerl ;-)

[@PatsGarageOnline]

Vielen Dank!

[@will8645]

Looks cool but its slow

[@mrpmj00]

because it is..... 4.5 seconds versus even a base Corvette C7 stingray at 3.7 seconds. That's why sales sucks. Bmw i8 doesn't even sound good with its fake speaker in the exhaust and piping in through the car's speakers.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

My best 0-60 on all season tires on public roads with a stock i8 was 4.3sec using Dragy. No slouch but not neck breaking. It doesn't compare to the experience I've had in other cars, Corvette included. And, it doesn't sound as good and never can with a 3cyl, that's for sure. However, I wonder why you say sales suck. I try to check out the condition of the i8's I see going up for sale in my area and they're on the lots about 2-3 weeks before they move. There are about 7,000 i8's in the US in total and it looks like it's bottoming out in depreciation. That said, it's a great deal for someone who wants something different. But, I still miss a Corvette.

[@mrpmj00]

@@PatsGarageOnline BMW i8 sales in 2019 was 1118 units versus Corvette sold 18k units carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-analysis-2019-sports-cars/#more-56264 I do like how the BMW i8's doors open upward.

[@skimeister1620]

Well said! Funny how people say it’s slow but haven’t actually driven one lol. Great iconic cars aren’t all about 0-60 time are they. It certainly isn’t slow as my previous cars include M4, Jag XKR v8 & Impreza WR1 all with similar performance. As you say, I think it’s because it has supercar looks and similar original price tag but super sports performance of cheaper cars? Good value now though!

[@vettestuff6373]

SLOW

[@krisadathamavit4440]

Because it's fake engine sound coming from external speakers drained your batteries and wallet. You think your fast but you just wasted your money simply because when you take a real look at the price range it is the slowest bottom of the list. Your paying more than a skyline gtr and it has less interior room. Too much futuristic SHOW with mediocre GO

[@krisadathamavit4440]

Self awareness alert....you wouldnt be making this video in the first place if you made a wise purchase.

[@jonathanhughman154]

You’re really insecure dude. You didn’t have to do all this