I like how new 8086, Z80, 6805, etc machines are making their way onto the market. Could be a good starting point for teaching CPU design & assembler at a high level.
@fnunez9 ай бұрын
Definitely better than the theoretical CPUs some courses use. You'll probably never see MMIX outside of a textbook, but at some stage in your career you might need to write some code for an embedded Z80 or 6502 descendent.
@Lucretia90009 ай бұрын
Whoever owns MC6809 should release new speedier versions.
@andrewsawesome9 ай бұрын
@@fnunezI mean, TI still writes for the Z80 and the eZ80 (a faster binary compatible version) for their graphing calculator software, and it has almost certainly been used in other "niche' applications.
@computer_toucher9 ай бұрын
When you said "First, it was slightly cheaper;" I imagined Peter Jones in the radio play. Then you came with a joke that tied it all together, a second after. Instant subscribe if I hadn't subbed before. You /so/ knew what you did.
@cyningstan9 ай бұрын
I got one of the original CGA versions and I love it. Since I target my game programming projects at 8088/CGA it's about as perfect a machine for me as I can currently afford. Of course, if ever I could afford an IBM 5150 with a 5153 monitor things might be different...
@VK2FVAX9 ай бұрын
Features for next version: 1) Better keyboard. 2) UMB memory. That'd make me buy one.
@RetroTechChris9 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this! I was happy to see the Book8088... erm BookV20... get that VGA upgrade recently.
@johnps16705 ай бұрын
Great machine for writing. No distraction.
@disposabledisposable79002 ай бұрын
Best of luck to you and the Mrs. For whatever lies ahead.
@drphilxr9 ай бұрын
WOW - UK 386 laptop prices are incredibly low compared to the US- where most 386's are not working, untested. IF working, tested then expect $300-900 for laptop/desktop 386.
@hinzster9 ай бұрын
The V20 is actually a bonus, as it is not only compatible to the 8086 but also has an 8080 mode, meaning it could run CP/M as well as DOS. Of course, for CP/M the 640k would be madness, even CP/M 3.0 (which included bank-switching) was usually not used with more than 128k. The possibility to run CP/M would make this a real retro-computer, stretching the time-frame back into the seventies.
@ratix988 ай бұрын
The nec v20 is a replacement for the 8088 cpu. The nec v30 is a good replacement chip for the 8086. I know because I had gotten the v30 to replace in the tandy 1000sx and it was incompatible and upon deeper reading they are indeed a upgrade for 8086 processors. I think the only key difference between the 8088 & 8086 was the 8086 had 16-bit addressing for memory or something like that.
@daretodreamtofly32888 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised to find 80xx pcs starting to pop up in my feed. Nor that it's someone from the UK that's showing it off. But that leaves me no less amazed. To think and appreciate the tech we have to the tech we had. And the community that still gets excited by it. FYI been looking up 74xx stuff. Perhaps I'll see more from the 80xx line up
@TheRetroRoadshow9 ай бұрын
I just received my box from AliExpess with the same bundle a couple days ago - your video has me even more excited to crack it open and dive in! I'm curious - do you know if anyone is putting together a list or wiki of apps and games that are suited to this odd mix of old and *very* old hardware?
@joerhorton9 ай бұрын
Best device like this for old school gaming is the Steam Deck, play old games with ScummVM/DosBox and then Emulate away with Emulation Station. The OLED screen is amazing for old games. A bit pricey, but the best thing I have had since my Commodore Amiga.
@R4dm1n9 ай бұрын
imo VGA and OPL3 is overkill for a machine with an 8088 based platform. If it had a 386 it then would be reasonable. A VGA port would be nice too.
@milasudrilАй бұрын
Every laptop should have a way to plug-in an external monitor, and for that purpose, VGA makes life much easier.
@jonathont55704 ай бұрын
CGA sticker is because that is what it originally came with. I like the semi transparent since its different, at least its not beige.
@Scrub_Ghost9 ай бұрын
Nice to have you back❤
@TheRetroShack9 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@TEBLify9 ай бұрын
I think it's kind of amazing that we've come to the point, that what I would assume was someone's passion project can be produced for such a limited market. As for the computer itself, it looks nice for what it is though there are quite a few magic black boxes on the mainboard. Not a problem in itself, but when they fail it's just a paperweight before long - a vintage laptop you may manage to find spare parts for. If I can't repair it, then I'll pick the vintage one.
@destroyer2973Ай бұрын
Did you know there is a modern i686 processor not made by intel or amd called the Vortex86DX3. It is a dual core 1 gigahertz i686 compatible cpu that supports up to two gigabytes of ram and can run FreeDOS, the best DOS.
@wintermute7409 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved the Douglas Adams nod... Absolutely brilliant ;)
@StarlancerAstro9 ай бұрын
I wish this was a 386, I know I've seen the hand 386 but I'd much prefer this form factor.
@jasonblalock44299 ай бұрын
I have to wonder if this thing exists because someone came into a whole bunch of V20s and couldn't figure out what to do with them. Because otherwise it would make SO much more sense to build this around a 286 or 386.
@gaxiola17019 ай бұрын
Having gotten into PC computers back in the late 80s, I would agree. A 286 with EGA or 386 with VGA, AdLib/SoundBlaster support plus some extra memory is a much better jumping on point for games or productivity. Not having a game port is also a miss.
@another39979 ай бұрын
@@gaxiola1701Some people got in to computers earlier than you, so may well remember using 8086, 8088 and 80186 class CPUs. Original machines are 44 years old and hard to get hold of and maintain. If this machine were a bit cheaper and closer to a typical 8088 class laptop from back in the day, it would be an OK machine.
@jasonblalock44299 ай бұрын
@@another3997 Yeah, that's the odd thing about this. Aside from the CPU, nearly all the other hardware points towards a late-80s PC. As the video noted, even trying to find software which supports VGA & Adlib but will run on an 8088 is difficult. If they wanted a true early-80s style PC, why the fancy hardware?
@SojournerDidimus9 ай бұрын
Serial port for a mouse (or PS/2) would be a great addition. with their component choice I do understand there is no scanning video (VGA or RCA) as it would really add to the complexity, but it would still be neat. Given they stuff so much in CPLDs, why not go all in and use an FPGA to do most if not all the heavy lifting at probably a fraction of the cost.
@kilianhekhuis9 ай бұрын
The reason it was cheaper though is that Intel couldn't give discounts on the 8086 because of deals with other parties, but the 8088 was outside those deals, so could be given a decent discount. The chip itself is almost identical to the 8086. Of course, creating a system with it _was_ a lot cheaper, b/o reuse of 8-bit 8080 support chips.
@horusfalcon9 ай бұрын
Congratulations on achieving your new lifestyle. The Book 8088 is a bit of a cipher. I mean, it's cool that someone built a small MS-DOS laptop in 2023, and that a Mk II came out in 2024, but it just seems a bit late to the party. There's a menu system called QuikMenu III that would really make this thing pop.
@igorperuchi21149 ай бұрын
It's an interesting toy, and I'm happy with mine. I'm glad such a thing exists, and that something like that is possible in this day and age. If someone thinks is pointless, whatever, nobody is asking you to buy one.
@giulianomarco9 ай бұрын
Hope you packed your towel first, Scott! 😋👍
@TheRetroShack9 ай бұрын
I did!
@cpcnw9 ай бұрын
The Gates 640Kb quote is not nearly as bad as the one about Gary Kildall who didn't just go flying because he couldn't be bothered talking to IBM.
@Clarence_13x3 ай бұрын
Mine isn’t recognizing an 8087 math co-processor. On boot, it says “FPU-not detected”
@thomasfuchs789 ай бұрын
I really like your videos. I'd urge you to stop using AI-generated imagery because it cheapens them, especially when you're otherwise sourcing fun clips in between and are clearly putting time and effort in the videos.
@marksterling82869 ай бұрын
The nec v20 was the cpu for my first ibm clone pc I owned. My 3rd ever computer after my original spectrum48 and pcw8256
@JohnVella19689 ай бұрын
Ok, I know this might be seen as nit picking but why do we need a Windows key on a machine that is designed to run MS-DOS?
@another39979 ай бұрын
It may not be needed, but buying stocks of a modern, off the shelf laptop keyboard to keep costs down rather limits your choice. I suppose they could have put a sticker over it, or maybe the key caps are easily replaced... but what label would you want on that key?
@JohnVella19689 ай бұрын
@@another3997 if the key caps could be replaced, you could have pretty much anything. As an example you could have something like prg, or prog, both short for program. It wouldn't be difficult to write a program which would use this key, as part of a combination to launch a program, for example prog + 1 could launch your word processor, 2 could launch a game of your choice, etc.
@UnbrokenCheese4 ай бұрын
I have the older, version 1, of these. I got it in the hopes of using it as a dumb terminal, but it didn't have RS232. I did replace the BIOS with the official Sergey BIOS and installed FreeDOS on it, but it's been collecting dust.
@mrtnsnp9 ай бұрын
I still find it amazing that Lemmings can run in a webbrowser these days.
@bengelman26009 ай бұрын
Or quake 3
@mrtnsnp9 ай бұрын
@@bengelman2600🤯
@danielktdoranie9 ай бұрын
I would love to see someone install FreeDOS one of these
@zoomosis8 ай бұрын
I'd put DR DOS on it, just to be different.
@zaxxon49 ай бұрын
Given the VGA chip, it should be possible to split the signal to a VGA port. That would be way outside the scope of this video, but worth it for a longer video.
@JuanRodriguez-rb6zm5 ай бұрын
Starts video. Experiences Seinfeld reference. Laughs. Subscribes. It's that simple folks! Happy to be here! Great video!
@TheRetroShack5 ай бұрын
Happy to have you here :)
@dgmt19 ай бұрын
I disagree that the choice of components is anachronistic and spec-wise it lines up well with the type of budget PC first-time home users were purchasing in the 2nd half of the 80s. First of the all the V20 chip was released in 1984 (not 1979) and became a popular choice for cheap PC clones during the PC sales boom of 1986-1990. During that period companies were primarily targeting EGA for games with legacy support for CGA, while VGA support gradually started to be added at the tail end. Therefore, having a GPU that supports all 3 is very appropriate. With 640k RAM and the 8mhz CPU, it should be capable of running any 80s era DOS game/application. Extended memory wasn't required until the 90s, and while some 1988-1989 games run much better with a 286, they still should be playable with a V20. The OPL3 would have been better for a 90s themed device, but it has full support for OPL2 and sourcing OPL2 chips would have been more difficult and expensive so the decision is understandable. Overall, as somehow who had a very similar system in the 80s, the specs look absolutely fine to me. It just needs a proper keyboard that is somewhat closer to those used on 80s era laptops/luggables and of course to also properly licence Serge Kiselev’s bios. Real 8088/8086 laptops are notorious for being difficult to maintain and many are suffering from dying chips, drives and LCDs, all of which are hard to replace. So there is a legit gap for the Book8088 if they ever put a proper keyboard on it.
@paul_boddie9 ай бұрын
It's like an updated Amstrad PPC or, as you say, any low-end PC of the late 1990s. Obviously, even the screen on this thing is way beyond what was available at that time, and it would have been quite high-end for most of the 1990s, too, but there are practical limits to authenticity if one wants to sell a product.
@ErazerPT9 ай бұрын
Always loved the vintage Thinkpad look, and this edges close, even if not in build quality. That said, it'd be funky if LILYGO put a FABGL VGA ESP32 alike in a Thinkpad clone case...
@SiD3WiNDR8 ай бұрын
I didn't realize there are also "Alkers" in Lemmings... :o
@runderwo4 ай бұрын
12:25 The problem with buying true vintage laptops is that displays that predate the TFT era are hard on the eyes even when they are still working.
@georgemaragos23789 ай бұрын
Hi, it is a good little machine for what it is. Considering original vintage it hit on miss if it is working properly today and how long will it last I have a approx 2010 netbook HP 5102 with a Atom processor, it now runs linux mint, but it can boot of the SD card, so i have a 8gb boot card with 4 x 2gb dos partitions and dos 6.22 Way to fast for dos games but dos apps like win3.1 is fine as is works for dos. I cant recall but i think you can slow it down in bios by turning of shadow roms and cache or i used the slow down or cpu speed utility
@Subgunman9 ай бұрын
Does the machine have a useable serial port on it? What type of hard drive does it use? Does it have a floppy drive if not how does one add dos programs to the machine?
@TheRetroShack9 ай бұрын
Yes, it has a working serial port - it uses a compact flash drive with an XT-IDE interface. No floppy but you can drop things straight onto the compact flash, or you can use a usb thumb drive.
@danielktdoranie9 ай бұрын
You can use the serial port for a mouse, old heads like me remember the serial mouse and may even have a few 3 button models laying around 😂
@talideon9 ай бұрын
You said you were downsizing, but this is ridiculous! 😁
@guessundheit64949 ай бұрын
The lack of external keyboard and mouse are a dealbreaker. ~~~MAYBE~~~ if the expansion board (5:42) allows adding a card to connect a keyboard and mouse...
@knghtbrd9 ай бұрын
I don't think trying to ape a 5150 with anachronistic video and sound is the ideal solution-but what is will probably require a bit more work. I really think what the retrocomputing world needs is some Tandy compatibility. The sort of improved CGA and multiple bleeps and boops at a time sound. It could be done in a smaller FPGA, and I really think it should be done that way because you'd want to emulate the composite mode. Also, you'd want to be able to output to a VGA monitor What else/ I dunno… PS/2 keyboard and DA-15 joystick port on the add-in board? That makes it less portable, but more usable. If accepting the use of FPGAs means you can integrate more of it into one slightly larger FPGA (at not much higher cost), it means you might have space for those ports on the device, and maybe room for EMS as well. Just a thought.
@simmo10249 ай бұрын
Love the idea of putting a nostalgia machine together in laptop form (hey, I'm looking a Commodore, Acorn and Sinclair here too*), however in this case, I'm baffled why you would not use the 8086, or up the ram to a usable amount. For me though, that keyboard looks too cramped. Never got on with netbooks generally for that reason, can never hit the right key. And a bigger screen needed. Still. *Thinking about it, if you could have one laptop case that does all three (and PC!) by a switch on the side (or pulling the system module and swapping for another) that would be cool.
@mmadmic9 ай бұрын
I bought the v2 and it's a great little machine, a little but plasticky but works great, the only "problem" is the CF, as it 500MB it's a little bit slow when "dir" or starting an "exe", too big for FAT16. I have a problem with PrintMaster 1, impossible to recognize my 2 vintage printers (Epson LQ870 and HP Laserjet 4+), strange as they work with other software (even PM 2) and from my Toshiba 286, my Acer 386 and my Compaq PII machines. For the rest, RS232 works as expected, connected to a PC with Fastlynx, mouse OK, LPT1 OK, Turbo works, may be little bit too "fast" due to its V20 and the VGA doesn't work well with CGA programs. The installed version of W3.0 misses a lot of files, including vga.drv but I installed PCGeos 1.2 and it works like a charm, I tested ver.2 but it needs a 286 to run. I don't regret this little machine, it's very fun to use.
@zoomosis8 ай бұрын
The CF card might be quicker to use if you repartition it into two (or even three) drives.
@mmadmic8 ай бұрын
@@zoomosis indeed, fdisk is my friend :)
@Clarence_13x3 ай бұрын
The plastic color is due to them being made of melted-down cybiko cases.
@WilliamHostman9 ай бұрын
My curiousity is whether it will run CPM-86... I'd honestly be more interested in an Apple IIgs clone in that form factor. Or an MSX box. And yeah, it really should have an external VGA at the price point listed.
@computer_toucher9 ай бұрын
I quite like your realistic benchmarks for the channel
@Bushidounohana9 ай бұрын
Picked one up on AliExpress as a X-Mas gift to myself, and mostly agree with your assessment. Would just add the keyboard usability vacillates between “meh” and “GGRRRRR …”, really standing out where other corners cut could potentially be at least partially forgiven. I wanted to get back into coding on QBasic on “genuine article” hardware (lost hours of my childhood accordingly on an IBM PS/2 Model 25), but the keyboard is always my limiting factor.
@merman19749 ай бұрын
The intro clip made me laugh, and that machine has such an intriguing mix of components. But I'm not really sure what the use of it is? I mean, it's underpowered for a lot of gaming nostalgia, and it's definitely not man enough for business applications. I'd hate to see how slow Windows chugs when it starts making swap files.
@dennislindqvist54619 ай бұрын
What is the the classic synthetic performance tests showing? Is it in pair or above the IBM PC?
@systemchris9 ай бұрын
I feel the only things lacking are a cheap small but better CPU like 386/486 equivalent, 4-8mb ram, and a VGA out socket... It could be a functional dos machine like that
@sleveee9 ай бұрын
i've got a first gen with no serial or parallel port that works fine but the second gen i bought has graphics issues with the CGA chipset and even tho the seller accepted returns i couldn't find a shipper that would send to the return address in china. these are are mostly reclaimed parts on custom pcbs with little to no quality control. neat but expensive and possibly faulty toy.
@Anim40009 ай бұрын
it's not possible to make 8088 in newer process node? like make 8088 with 7nm
@zoomosis8 ай бұрын
I'm impressed this exists but wonder why anyone would want it. I can sort of understand the appeal if it was a 386 model, but there's so much e-waste out there already. In any case you can buy a used Thinkpad T460 for around the same money and have an infinitely more useful modern PC and with a great keyboard and screen. Put Linux Mint on it and then you have the option of DOSBox (multiple variants), DOSEMU, 86Box, VirtualBox plus a whole bunch of non-PC emulators.
@TheSillyshyguy6 ай бұрын
Can you add an ISA Serial Port/Multifunction card via the ISA bus?
@VintageImitationParts9 ай бұрын
9:45 shows clearly that 64 megabytes (65,535 kilobytes) of extended memory is installed, with approximately 34 megabytes available. That's nowt to do with the ROM...
@TheRetroShack9 ай бұрын
I was similarly confused and ended up here: www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/17os42d/how_can_these_roms_occupy_memory_above_640kb_if/
@kingcrimson2346 ай бұрын
I have the old CGA version. It's not particularly useful. It ended up just handling my checking account register with Quicken 7.0 and it does a fine job lol.
@ZoragRingael9 ай бұрын
I think 486 (or something like AMD Am5x86), 8MB RAM, SVGA 1MB would be better. Basically a machine that can run everything up to Windows 95 apps.
@dans.81982 ай бұрын
@6:09 I read it as: The keyboard is so close to be really nice, if only for the fact that it's crap :-)
@dennislindqvist54619 ай бұрын
What happened to replacing the BIOS, did I miss that part?
@JJGhostHunters8 ай бұрын
Will this run early versions of MATLAB?
@joncrawford34859 ай бұрын
Might be worth comparing this to something slightly more modern - Toshiba Satellite Click Mini :)
@katelights9 ай бұрын
id like to see this with a 386 or something
@georgegonzalez24768 ай бұрын
That’s an odd design. If you want to look like an 8088, any $2 microcontroller can emulate an 8088, and probably require less support circuitry and less power.
@turbinegraphics168 ай бұрын
I was going to get one but I'd want a better screen and keyboard, I'd at least want good arrow keys.
@ChrisLI-m8j4 ай бұрын
Are you interested in 386 or 8086?
@ridbensdale8 ай бұрын
It looks Mostly Harmless.
@SobieRobie9 ай бұрын
In case you plan to visit Poland just let me know :)
@Cassandra_Johnson9 ай бұрын
ya, if I want to go retro, I would want something that could support win 3.11 or even win95. So, at least 486dx4, or even a cyrix586. These are just a bit pricy for too little performance.
@doigt65908 ай бұрын
Bbbut I thought turbo-mode was supposed to be slow for backwards compatibility with old games that were programmed using slower framerates? Why do you seem to imply turbo mode speeds up the pc?
@zoomosis8 ай бұрын
Typically a PC would boot in Turbo mode and you'd turn it off to run games that needed a slower CPU. Though in this video it seems to be booting in non-turbo mode? Or maybe that was just how the video was edited. Not sure.
@doigt65908 ай бұрын
@@zoomosis I just looked and it seems my computer, and some others as well, came with an inverted turbo button, hence my confusion. Sorry for the dumb question and thank you for the clarification.
@Jerkwad1529 ай бұрын
You could probably bump the RAM up to 1MB with some work.
@ScandalUK9 ай бұрын
Yeah but can it play Repton?
@martinh49829 ай бұрын
I'm not entirely sure who these computers are aimed at. I suppose ancient industrial control equipment that needs to be replaced because it can't be repaired?
@Zeem49 ай бұрын
Retro MS-DOS gaming and nostalgia enthusiasts. Somebody wanting to control industrial equipment wouldn't touch this thing with a 10-foot barge pole.
@another39979 ай бұрын
It's unlikely to find a use in industry. The industrial "retro" computers tend to use high quality components without any of the unnecessary bells and whistles. They are designed for long term reliability. They also tend to come with firm commitments to support the hardware for extended periods of time. None of those criteria are likely to be met by this machine.
@tikkasen_urakointi9 ай бұрын
Can it run ST-DOS?
@mariozetik8 ай бұрын
At least V30 at 10MHz or better 286 16MHz or an 386SX, latest were available very long as embedded CPUs, 4MB of RAM, adding VGA output and PS2 for mouse and keyboard. Other features as external bus is super, no deleting here. VGA and AdLib is overkill for XT class CPU. I could accept even slightly bigger format for better keyboard. Everything more lead to old classic notebooks. I also like idea of this gear but feel it pricey and too limited for me.
@fattomandeibu9 ай бұрын
The biggest fault for me, which I find really disorienting, is that they forced the Adlib sound, a mono device, into stereo. I'm not sure what they did, but it appears that random instruments get assigned to be either left or right channel and when you're playing back Adlib, you'll be getting one part of the song in your left ear and one part in your right ear with no real sense of balance.
@JamesPotts9 ай бұрын
That's crazy. I wonder how anyone thought that'd be a good idea.
@olexanderkidenko44239 ай бұрын
It's a fault of the chip that was used - OPL3 is stereo, while OPL2 was mono. While in a MIDI-file an instrument can be panned from left to right in 128 different positions (with 64 being dead-center in the mix), but, if I am not mistaken, OPL3 can only place it in three positions - dead-center, or only in the right or left channel. It worked fine in a synth keyboard, but not on a sound card.
@Brfff9 ай бұрын
It doesn't run Pac-Girl :(
@Brfff9 ай бұрын
Fixed! I replaced the BIOS that came with Book 8088 with Sergey's version for the Book 8088 and Pac-Girl is now working! Running it with the Soviet К1810ВМ88 version of the 8088. /Brett
@Fezzler619 ай бұрын
Novelty.
@computer_toucher9 ай бұрын
Does it do 8088 Mph?
@marksmith95669 ай бұрын
4 USB ports that are full service.
@monolalia9 ай бұрын
Without chonky keys, what even is the POINT?
@kilianhekhuis9 ай бұрын
I got a NuXT, which I think is a better retro PC. I really don't get the laptop form factor...
@chadmasta59 ай бұрын
I think it would be better if it had a vortex86 or similar 486 compatible cpu with a crystal audio chip for Soundblaster sound. As it is it doesn't feel worth it. Too weak to be useful and too expensive to just buy for the novelty factor.
@Colin_Ames9 ай бұрын
Good overview. Not something I’d buy, but I’m sure there’s some kind of market for it.
@Txm_Dxr_Bxss9 ай бұрын
I never understand the problem with the 640 is enough quote. Even if Bill Gates said that, then it was probably true at the time.
@TrimeshSZ9 ай бұрын
Especially since the 8088 only has 20 address lines and hence a total address space of 1MB - the dividing line between RAM and memory mapped ROM and I/O had to go somewhere, and I guess ending RAM at 9FFF:000F and starting the reserved space at A000:0000 made a lot of sense at the time - it was basically 2/3 RAM and 1/3 "other stuff".
@zoomosis8 ай бұрын
It was true in the mid-80s but not so much when Windows 3.0 was released in 1990. It could run in 640 KB but there weren't many Windows apps would run in the small amount of memory left after Windows had loaded. Word 1.1 might've been one of the few that did. The first version of OS/2 was released in ~1988 which increased the memory limit for native apps to 16 MB. Bill Gates was a big proponent of OS/2 at the time. It won't run on the PC in this video since it needs at least a 286.
@bufordmaddogtannen9 ай бұрын
It exists to make money. 😂
@micahottaway84558 ай бұрын
If someone did this for Amiga...
@galacticusX9 ай бұрын
Rather garish, getting a proper old laptop is much better.
@colinstu9 ай бұрын
All the AI art killed this for me, sorry. It's really not needed.
@2xtreem4u9 ай бұрын
too expensive
@Luthiart9 ай бұрын
And who asked for this? Who's been pining to run MSDOS on a tiny, barely usable "laptop"?
@JohnVella19689 ай бұрын
@luthiart me! Which is why I'm running DOSbian on my Raspberry pi. It runs Microsoft word 5.5 and it's a great distraction free writing machine.
@Kobold6669 ай бұрын
A cheap laptop from the 2010s can easily run Bochs or DOSBox emulation, has a decent keyboard, more RAM than DOS could ever handle, and you can instantly switch to Windows or Linux with a keypress. There is nothing authentic or nostalgic about those new 8bit machines.
@another39979 ай бұрын
@@Kobold666 Yes you can, but with any kind of emulation or virtualisation, you always have that nagging feeling that it's not the same as the real hardware. The limitations are artificial, and you know you can just switch to the modern OS underneath and use the modern hardware to it's full capacity. Running emulators can be great fun, they're quick, convenient and ultra flexible... but as long as you KNOW it's emulation, it's not the same.
@Luthiart9 ай бұрын
@another3997 That is true... a few years ago, I was all about buying busted C64s and repairing/modding them, etc. Everyone said: "Why go through all that trouble when you can run those games in an emulator?". You are indeed correct. It's NOT the same experience as banging on original hardware, and that's what i would tell anybody who thought my efforts were a waste of time and money. But this thing is NOT original hardware. It looks like a piece of crap from Ali Express, to be honest. Don't let it stroke your nostalgia gland. You're better off buying an old PC from Goodwill or ebay and running DOS to your heart's content on that than spending good money on something that you'll probably get bored with in three months, or it'll break... whichever comes first.
@Kobold6669 ай бұрын
@@another3997 I know. I own several Commodore and Amiga machines. But an AT/XT is just a PC as any other PC. I have no nostalgia at all for DOS machines, but I can relate. If you want original hardware from the time, buy original hardware from the time. There is no need to produce more modern electronics waste.
@mickeythompson95379 ай бұрын
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@denjhang3169 ай бұрын
I am one of the real users of Book8088. I would like to say that such a laptop is simply industrial garbage. It has a very poor screen and keyboard. The viewing angle of the screen is very small, the colors are dim, the brightness cannot be adjusted, the keyboard feels very bad and comes with Android The shortcut keys 😁🤣look like the stock from the lowest-end Android tablets from 10 years ago. The chip hatch is worse than your air conditioner remote control or even a kid's toy. There's nothing aesthetic about the exterior design, and it looks like it's been hastily manufactured. It's a poor imitation of IBM's ultraportable computers of the past. The designer does not really put his heart into making it, but only uses it as a tool to make money. It is far worse than the uMSX Pro I made in every aspect.😅
@TheRetroShack9 ай бұрын
Well, I’d be happy to review your UMSX Pro :) Get in touch :)
@denjhang3169 ай бұрын
@@TheRetroShack I found out yesterday that suddenly someone bought my uMSX Pro😅.
@Megatog6159 ай бұрын
god stop using AI art...
@Hornet1354 ай бұрын
Most people pray when they want to talk to God.
@Clarence_13x3 ай бұрын
@@Hornet135 I eat the San Pedro
@aqqalularsen3322Ай бұрын
@@Hornet135no this was a good demand to god
@Kobenete9 ай бұрын
I see absolutely no point in this. Building something like it yourself as a hobby project, maybe. As a commercial product it is a waste of time and resources. Especially as cheaply built run of the mill chinese e-waste