The Bosnian Muslim Waffen-SS Division: the SS-Handschar

The Bosnian Waffen-SS units, particularly the 13th SS Division "Handschar" and the 23rd SS Division "Kama," played controversial roles during World War II. These divisions were formed largely from Muslim volunteers in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and they were part of Nazi Germany's broader strategy to exploit local ethnic tensions and enlist non-Germans in their war efforts.
SS Handschar was the first non-Germanic Waffen-SS division, established in 1943. Composed mainly of Bosnian Muslims, it was named after the "handžar," a traditional Turkish sword, symbolizing the division's identity. Himmler, saw the Bosnian Muslims as natural allies against the Serbs (Chetniks) and communists (Partisans). They appealed to Islamic identity, portraying their fight as a defense of Islam against communism, which they equated with atheism. The division was involved in counterinsurgency operations against Yugoslav Partisans but was also implicated in atrocities against Serbs, Jews, and Roma populations.
SS Kama, formed in 1944, was another Bosnian Muslim division but was smaller and less successful. It faced issues with discipline and desertion, reflecting the waning morale as the war turned against Germany. SS Kama was disbanded before it could fully develop, and its remaining members were absorbed into the Handschar Division or other units.
Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, played a significant role in the formation and ideological direction of these units. A fervent anti-Zionist and anti-British figure, al-Husseini had fled to Germany during the war and collaborated with the Nazis. He was instrumental in recruiting Muslims to the Waffen-SS, framing the fight against the Allies as a jihad. Al-Husseini's influence was crucial in shaping the religious and ideological framework within which these divisions operated, although their effectiveness was limited and short-lived.
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[@adamradziwill]

Great video!

[@HistoryHustle]

@@adamradziwill 👍

[@MickeyMouse-el5bk]

The most funny thing here in Germany is especially the lefties who loves Muslims so much deny that they fought with National socialists😂😂😂😂

[@jokodihaynes419]

Former handschar and kuma waffen ss volunteers fought in the arab-Israel war

[@sv5813]

Just as worthless then too

[@TovarischMakarov]

@@sv5813Your other comments show the amount of cope. Seethe some further

[@HistoryHustleNederlands]

I mention this at the end 👍

[@carlospargamendez4784]

And their methods copied by IDF

[@harrythedirty4256]

Like who? Name one?

[@jokodihaynes419]

I know the ss handschar mutinied but i didn't know SS kama mutinied too i learn something new today

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@juanzulu1318]

Wait, when did the Kama Division mutineered? It was quickly disbanded after its creation. Do I miss something?

[@HistoryHustle]

I believe it did but not sure about the details. Perhaps something for a future episode.

[@amirdedic9278]

Titovo komunisti su još tokom regrutacije Bosanskih muslimana u 13 Hanđar Diviziju ubacivati i svoje ljude (muslimane koji su podržavali Tipvu komunističku partiju). Oni su bilo nukleus razdora u 13 Diviziji, pobunu su digli oni a poslije gušenja pobune u Francuskoj vrijedno su radili na tome da se ljudstvo te Divizije po povratku u Bosnu počne baviti dezerterstvom i bijegom sa kompletnim naoružanjem u Partizanski Titovu vojsku. Pola te 13 Hanđar Divizija eje tako i postupilo jer su se po povratku u Bosnu sa obuka u Francuskoj i Njemačkoj lično uvjerili da Wermaht tijesno surađuje sa Srpskom formacijom zvanom Četnici Draže Mihajlovića. A Četnici Draže Mihajlovića su u periodu 1941, 1942 i 1943 g izvršili masovne pokolje nad Muslimanskim civilima što je i dovelo do toga da mnogi Bosanski Muslimani svoj spas potraže pod okriljem Nijemaca odnosno Wermahta.Treba reći još i ovo-99 % Bosanskih Muslimana nikada u svom životu nije ni srela Jevreje jer su Jevreji mahom živjeli u gradovima a pripadnici Hanđar Divizije su većinom bili ljudi sa Bosanskih sela i planina. Njima nije bila svojstvena mržnja prema Judajizmu. Mržnju su im usađivali Nijemci rokom obuka u Francuskoj i Njemačkoj. Kod mnogih bezuspješno jer se polovina ljudstva Divizije po dolasku u Bosnu našla u Partizanima okrenuvši leđa Nijemcima. Četnici Draže Mihajlovića i Nijemci su mrđusobno surađivali do posljednjeg dana 2 Svjetskog Rata u borbi protiv Titovih Partizana .

[@Legionarzx1-d4c]

No man

[@jamesthebond4904]

Excellent documentary that sheds light on a little known area of WWII in the Balkans. With respect to the coup against the Pact with Hitler, that was orchestrated, with full British support, by Serbian staff officers in 1941. That slap in the face to Hitler, launched him into a rage against Yugoslavia and the Serbs. Churchill praised the coup leaders saying "Yugoslavia has found its soul..." but it was really the Serbs who were anti-German. The rest of the ethnic groups like Croats, Albanians and Bosnians, enthusiastically embraced the Nazis cause.

[@tyler.durden8883]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@jackpejkovic1325]

Thank you for telling the truth what really happened in the Balkans WWII. God bless

[@off6848]

@@tzoa4443yep now there’s Nazis in Kursk again, Swedes in Poltava again and the French are again in Odessa while the EU and NATO pressure Hungary and Serbia to bend to their will

[@HistoryHustle]

Lots of Balkan tribalism here. It's always "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.

[@tzoa4443]

@@HistoryHustle Could you be a little less snobbish and not pretend the same bloody thing is not happening in the West, even worse? *Sigh* ... Western tribalism... See? Snobbish

[@AMEurope333]

Great video! Finally, a true historian from the West who will look at the past of the Balkan conflicts objectively and in depth. I would add that the cause of the conflict in Bosnia is identity assimilation during the Ottoman occupation and Austro-Hungarian annexation.

[@cbroz7492]

...yes the Ottomans truly screwed their Moslem brothers outside the borders of Turkey..treated them as slaves and interiors and destroyed what independent cultures there were in what call today the Middle East...

[@Bosniak803]

Don't blame foreigners for what local "Subhumans",have done since 1920

[@MarkoKraguljac]

@@Bosniak803 Foreigners' shards remain in their hearts over generations. Rehabilitation is lengthy.

[@julius43461]

@@Bosniak803 You are literally the product of those foreigners, but somehow they have nothing to do with it lol

[@Bosniak803]

@@MarkoKraguljac maybe

[@elforeigner3260]

For most European countries WWII meant civil war in each of them, and in the East war didn’t even end in 1945.

[@user-td2bd5iw4u]

Zavrsio bi se da vase zemlje nepotpaljuju vatru i prave zarista tamo gde im odgovara!!

[@scottfarley3644]

Great video. This is so overlooked by history and needs to be told!

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

Complex and chaotic indeed.Thanks for shining your light on this 👍 Greets from Grun' 🇳🇱, TW.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks TW!

[@neso_003]

This video provides an incredibly detailed and eye-opening look into the dark history of the Bosnian SS Handschar Division. The thorough research and presentation of facts shed light on the division’s formation, its brutal actions during World War II, and the impact it had on the region and its people. The use of historical footage, personal testimonies, and expert commentary really brought the story to life and emphasized the terror and devastation caused by this division. I appreciate how the video doesn't shy away from the complexities of the division’s origins, including the political and social factors that led to its creation. It’s a stark reminder of how ideology and manipulation can lead to horrific consequences. Overall, this video is a must-watch for anyone interested in WWII history, particularly the lesser-known chapters of the war in the Balkans. Kudos to the creators for producing such an informative and respectful exploration of a painful yet important part of history.

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks for your reply.

[@G.Tvorevina]

Problematika i jest zasto je osnovana Hanzar divizija,koji su to razlozi nastanka te divizije.Istotiska Činjenica je da je osnovana iz nužde od lokalne muslimanske milicije koja se nije mogla nositi s zločinima cetnika i partizana u istočnoj Bosni nad neduznim civilima muslimanima. Ako se malo vratimo kroz istoriju progona muslimana iz Srbije Beogradskog pašaluka i Uzica 99% muslimanskog grada a koji su naselili istočnu Bosnu nad kojim se vrsi klanje i ubijanje drugi genocid u istom stoljeću.Osnivanje Handzar divizija je nužna potreba.Nijemci su naoruzali lokalnu miliciju koja je s vremenom prerasla u ozbiljnu vojnu jedinicu.Koju su Nijemci poslije iskoristili u druge svrhe. Dobar dio ove jedinice je završio u Palestini koji su ratovali protiv Britanaca i zidova.

[@Aboleo80]

ChatGPT generated comment 😅

[@neso_003]

@@Aboleo80 Whether AI-generated or not, the facts and appreciation for the video remain the same. Thanks for the laugh, though! 😃

[@davidneal6920]

Excellent history lesson thanks. I served with the UN in Bosnia in 94/95. As a keen historian I often broached the subject of WWII with locals. The muslims often simply referred to Croatians as ‘Ustasha’ - they had long memories - however most of the locals (Muslims and Croatians) tended to avoid the subject. Some told me ‘Germans in the towns and partisans in the hills’. Shame the country has been plagued by wars

[@WilhelmEley-s3y]

I mean you can't take everything at face value after so many decades, in particular with decades of yugo communist conditioning.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing this.

[@IvanBonic]

History is full of manipulations on the territory of the former Yugoslavia. The truth is a little different. It is a fact that the grandfathers of Muslims from Bosnia and Herzegovina participated in large numbers in the military units of the NDH. They were in Ustasha military units (volunteers) and in regular military units (home guards). Bosniaks were internationally recognized under that name (Bosniaks) in 1993. They were recognized as a separate nation in 1972 under the name Muslims. At the time of the Second World War, that nation was officially considered Croats. Please note that the official name of the Handžar SS unit was "13th Waffen Mountain Division SS Handschar (1. Croatia)". They had the Croatian coat of arms on their uniforms. So, the "Ustaše" were the grandfathers of the Bosniaks, and today they tell the Croats that only they were the Ustaše...

[@sal78sal]

@@IvanBonic Bosniaks were banned from having their nationality after the serbian king was given Bosnia in 1918 by the British. This oppression lated until our independence.

[@WilhelmEley-s3y]

@@IvanBonic I'm curious if in former yugoslavia you learn about the history before? Yugoslav accession to the Tripartite Pact on 25 March 1941. Yugoslavia actually became an ally of the axis, after that the Yugoslav coup d'état happened, and this coup d'état was a british operation. Essentially the legitimate government of Yugoslavia was couped involving british operators, and AFTER that happened Germany invaded Yugoslavia. I feel like this is something they omitted in cold war yugoslav education for... reasons..

[@mammuchan8923]

Excellent video Stefan, I have just watched it again. This is the most captivating story of all the foreign Waffen SS units. The story had so much great detail. I can only roll my eyes at Himmler finding some obscure text to justify Bosnians as being of Aryan descent, their delusions really knew no boundaries. It also just goes to show how people ended up joining the Axis with the only goal being to protect their family and community

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching and your reply. Have a good day!

[@mammuchan8923]

@@HistoryHustle take care!

[@gumdeo]

One of the biggest foreign SS units, along with the Latvian and the Galician.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@AkakaDomenjer]

The biggest by the size of nation. My grandpa was in Handzar ss. So I know much about it.

[@SurName-u8b]

@@AkakaDomenjer was he a bosnian Muslim?

[@markomicic5945]

And Ustasha.

[@markogasevic239]

@@AkakaDomenjer Gledaj film noz I prihvati da ti je deda ratovao protiv svojih sa tudjinskim oruzijem. Bosanci znaju za sramotu u odnosu na hrvate besramnike

[@Hillbilly001]

Interesting video as always Stefan. Cheers from Tennessee

[@HistoryHustle]

👍👍👍

[@4fingers183]

Wow, I dint know you got electricity in America.... keep jamming THE PROGRESS :)

[@Hillbilly001]

@@4fingers183LOL!!! You're pretty funny for a plonker. LOL!!

[@duncannicholson1882]

very informative and well presented. I have long wondered about the complexities and interelationships of the axis troops in this regin, and you explained it clearly & succintly . Thanks

[@9and7]

No it is not. It's way off.

[@sully1527]

My grandpa was 2 months in harsh partisan prison after surrendering to Allies in Austria. Allies sent prisoners to Partisans. After prison, he went home and served Yugoslav people's army, right after the war few months later on... Good video, i reccomend everyone to read a book by a french historian Xavier Bougarel, Handschar division.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply.

[@tamjansan1154]

​@@HistoryHustleTito adopted many Ustasa and Muslim SS war criminal into his army. Serbs Partisans ( 93% of Partisans) who were not komunist were killed, imprisoned and opressed after the war by ex Austrohungarian officer Tito.

[@angeloluna529]

i remember over a decade ago i was debating a tyt fan on the topic of muslims in the waffen SS where he believes that it was made up propaganda while i provided sources of their existence, sadly he was too brainwashed and threw out whatever sources i provided as "right wing propaganda", sadly this was the time when such topics like this were not discussed widely and mainly scoffed at because the topic was not Stalingrad or D-Day.

[@HistoryHustle]

Interesting to read. What is a tyt fan?

[@danielwolfgang8234]

@@HistoryHustle Somebody who follows "the Young Turks". A left wing media Network based in the USA.

[@HistoryHustle]

Ah I see. Does that network has anything to do with the Young Turks from the Ottoman era?

[@danielwolfgang8234]

@@HistoryHustle Not that I am aware of, no.

[@angeloluna529]

@@HistoryHustle you know the channel the young turks?

[@nelasa7379]

Thank you Stefan for this video, and for being objective. I know that I’m asking for a lot but it would be really appreciated if the video had a Bosnian subtitle so all Bosnians can understand.

[@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e]

There’s no such thing as an Bosnian language. The language is SERBIAN. Just as Bosnia is the land of SERBIAN King Tvrtko. If you don’t like it you can go join your brothers in turkey.

[@harunburekovic3868]

​​​​​@@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e 👉 Dokaz Bosanske državnosti napisan na bosančici, staro bosansko pismo, 1189. 👉 Bosna kao nezavisna država postoji od 1180. Priznata od Ugarske, pa čak i Stefana Nemanje srpskog, i od papinih izaslanika u Rimu. 👉 Ime "Bošnjak" odnosno starinski "Dobri Bošnjani" postoji od 1166. 👉 Titula "Bosnanski Ban" postoji od 1154. 👉 I za kraj naš prvi bosnanski rječnik je napisan 1624, a tvoj srpski 1818. Kao što vidiš ovo nema nikakve veze sa turcima.

[@nelasa7379]

@@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e how yes no 😂😂😂

[@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e]

@@nelasa7379 You can say whatever you want and you can believe whatever you wish to believe in my dear Serbian sister of Islamic faith. This is the truth. God in heaven knows this. Have you ever heard of Osman Djikic? He wrote a work called “the Bosnian fairy”. Find that book and read it. Don’t forget the most prominent writer from Bosnia Mehmed Mesa Selimovic. He wrote that his Selimovic family stems from the Vujovic brotherhood of the Drobnjak tribe in Montenegro. Why would he write such a thing? So if they were Muslim and if they declared as Serbs, what does that make you? You speak their language and you hail from their country and you also belong to the faith they belonged to. Serbs are not only in Serbia and they are not only orthodox. I’m from Montenegro and I’m not orthodox. But I’m a SERB. I speak Serbian and my state was founded by the glorious Petrovic dynasty that were Serbs. Our king Nikola was a greater Serb than the king of Serbia. He wrote beautiful poems about Serbdom and about renewing Tsar Dushans state. You’ll ignore what I said. I know it. This is the curse of our people. Once a Serb turns their back on Serbdom they never return. Even if the Lord were to come down from heaven and tell you you are a Serb, you would decline. It is what it is. But history cannot be changed. No matter how hard people try to erase something, it always reappears in some shape or form.

[@G.Tvorevina]

Rijecnik Bosanskiog jezika je stariji od srpskog jezika koji je vuk Karadžić vijesto preuzeo iz Bosanskog jezika. Tvrtko je Bosanski kralj mitomanija velikosrpske politike seze do Adama i eve kao srba

[@tornyakvonvlashic8951]

24:37 this is what can be corroborated by what famous writer and partisan at the time Mesa Selimovic wrote in his book Memories or Sjecanja. I will paraphrase him, he stated that arrival of Handschar division to perform anti-partisan operations meant for partisans that they will have a lack of sleep for weeks, because the division units would keep pursuing partisans for a few weeks and partisans had to keep maneuvering to evade fights with them just so they would return back to their starting position once the division members ended operation, that division was a nuisance but it could not turn the tides of war in Yugoslav theater against partisans, it was introduced too late in the war to matter.

[@ivancertic5197]

Nicely done Stefan! Do you know, whether there are accounts of Handschar SS or Cama SS units direct involvement in crimes against humanity, genocide etc. like it was the case with Skanderbeg SS and Prinz Eugen SS?

[@Ernad-cm3ky]

Sto ne pricas onsvojim cetnicima koliko su poklali civila Genocidasi

[@icecoffee1361]

What a episode loving the longer format 👍

[@HistoryHustle]

Great to read!

[@Bogomil-zp5eo]

Please can you make a video about bulgarians in SS ? Edit : the information for that isn't that much, but i think it will be interesting idea for a video.

[@HistoryHustle]

Have no imagery nor information.

[@cezar3977]

For first time I hear about Bulgarians in SS Waffen division?

[@zulubeatz1]

As usual, excellent documentary, in fact one of the best I have seen on this unit. Very well explained and interestingly presented.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching.

[@annabiaa1000]

Thank you for another video about this great unit! Please, if you can, do one about the 17. SS-Panzergrenadier-Division "Götz von Berlichingen". They were an outstanding unit, composed of volksdeutsche from Romania, regular germans, french volunteers and even italians. A truly intriguing unit with a pretty good fighting record.

[@HistoryHustle]

Perhaps one day. Thanks for your reply!

[@KonradAdenauerJr]

Thak you yet again for another great video. I also appreciate your mention of the great error German forces made in fighting guerrillas (Partisans, in this case): this obsession with surrounding the enemy, which was inspired by the ancient Battle of Cannae). This obsession had dominated pre-1945 German military thinking.

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks for your reply.

[@vladimirvucetic6933]

My late grandpa was partisan in Bosnia from 1943, he told me that there wasn't any quarter given to those SS units. Some of them taking off uniforms during liberation, but they all got bullet in the head. His commander lost his family members by ustashas, so they didn't have a chance to capture muslims and croats alive.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing.

[@vladimirvucetic6933]

He joined partisans at the age of 16, in 1943. born and raised in Jagodina, central Serbia. He moved to Bosnia, since the partisan headquarters were there. He said SS wafen were relentless soldiers, they never surrendered, nor were taken prisoners. He was in a recon unit, that eventually first entered Jasenovac and witnessed horrors seen there. He and his units ended the war in Graz, Austria. Never said a word about Bleiburg. I could check his memoirs to see which unit he was in.

[@vladimirvucetic6933]

His unit was mainly Serbs, I am sorry if someone is offended by this fact.

[@DRFelGood]

Excellent review Stefan and fascinating facts!! Have a fabulous weekend! Cheers 🍻

[@HistoryHustle]

👍👍👍

[@VoxMax1200]

Handzar? Big shame of the people of the Muslim religion from the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Glory to the Muslims with a heroic heart who fought against the Nazis and collaborators like this division.

[@HistoryHustle]

Many Muslims also served in the ranks of the Partisans.

[@VoxMax1200]

@@HistoryHustle Thank you! I know that. Many of them occupied high positions in the state after the end of WW2. And later because of their merits. Greet!

[@MrMustang13]

Muslims tended to be on the side of the Germans so they were in line with them generally.

[@Damn03]

@@HistoryHustlenot many but mostly Bosniaks was against handjar Bosniaks had big divisions in Partisans and Titos right hand was Dzemal Bijedic

[@smrdljivivlah5879]

It was for country, they would get recognition instead of being considered just as muslims,

[@aidankitson7877]

Stef, you are excellent at presenting history in an entertaining way

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching.

[@Shiljamannn]

Muslims in Balkan after Ottoman's downfall experienced fall from grace.... They were the elite in the ottoman times, and then became second class citizens after Ottoman empire colapsed. They were struggling to make an identity and every attempt of them to make their own identity or some kind of sovereignity was brought down in blood. Balkan Christians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Croatians, Greeks... were done with islamic rule and superiority in the region. That is why Bosnian, Serbian and Albanian muslims were fragile ground, therefore easy for the Nazis to recruit to patrol the Balkans....

[@gibraltersteamboatco888]

Good. Thanks. BZ. Did the 14th Galazien not also mutiny?

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching. Not sure, you may be right!

[@TheAmorOfGod]

It would be interesting if you covered the Nazi backed far right groups in Mexico during WW2 like the Revolutionary Mexicanist Action and the Nationalist Synarchist Union.

[@carlospargamendez4784]

And the myths builts by Borrego.

[@HistoryHustle]

Never heard of that. Hope to travel to Mexico one day.

[@1jimmarch]

You missed a key detail. That guy Al-Husseini who was rabidly against the Jews? That was Yasser Arafat's uncle. Not kidding. Explains a whole lot about the Arab-Israeli conflict today.

[@nagollnosegrobbb2165]

He didn't miss it, it's just not true. A basic Google search disproves what you say. He was for sure an Anti Zionist . But that is hardly the same as being against jews.

[@sephatu6521]

nonsensical logic 🤣

[@carlospargamendez4784]

😂😂😂What a fallacy! So,we the Spaniards ought to be expelled from Spain because Franco was a Hitler's ally. And the Dutch people from Netherlands because Mussert was as well..And Jabotinsky, friend of Mussolini.

[@1jimmarch]

@@carlospargamendez4784 It's about how and why the animosity started. If you look at the earliest period of the Arab-Israeli conflict, it was the Arab side that wanted war. If the Arab leadership was literally infected with Nazi ideology (and it definitely was - look at Otto Skorzeny's history in Egypt after WW2 as just one example of thousands) it would explain a lot.

[@carlospargamendez4784]

@@1jimmarch the joke is not amusing. The animosity started because UK gave a country to a colonialist group without the opinion of the population of that country. Nobody loves to be expelled from his country..The colonialist project had a fake slogan what was a political confession: a land WITHOUT PEOPLE for a people without land. A land without people? Sure? 🤔

[@032Eagle]

Outstanding video. I admire your attention to detail.

[@HistoryHustle]

Glad you appreciate it.

[@rjames3981]

Very interesting 👌 What a complex region.

[@HistoryHustle]

Sure is. Thanks!

[@raingulfdrengot195]

We Bosnians make great fighter but boy do we fight for some shit causes

[@HistoryHustle]

Let's hope you don't have to fight again.

[@GRGA4200]

So nice to hear the whole story my grand grandmother was a partisan i have her silver star she was wouned in the hip...i remember her stories...and her husbant my grand grandpa that i never met was in ss mountain division he was Croatian yust like her i love this old stories and keep up the good work i love this chanel!!!

[@HistoryHustle]

Very interesting to read. Many thanks.

[@GRGA4200]

@@HistoryHustle np problem i will ask sum more of the history my grandpa knows alot about his mom and father history...

[@macjackson6071]

very interesting piece of info! thanks a lot.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍thanks for watching.

[@almiromeragic9341]

Great video. We definitely did not learn this kind of history growing up in Tito's Yugoslavia. Thanks again.

[@ivancertic5197]

if we were educated about that, instead of pushing crimes of the past under carpet in order to keep brotherhood and unity, maybe 90s would turn out differently.

[@julius43461]

@@ivancertic5197 Nah, regional identities have to be weakened for everyone to live in one nation. See how Botswana handled it.

[@ivancertic5197]

@@julius43461 As i just read it, in Botswana, 80% of people are Tswana ethnicity. Not a good comparison. Additionally we already tried suppressing local identities during Kingdom of Yugoslavia, and promotion of universal Yugoslav identity, language etc. It didn't went well to say the least.

[@julius43461]

@@ivancertic5197 Yes, but some would argue that people in the Balkans are also the same ethnicity, just different "tribes". In Botswana they had tribal issues like most of Africa despite being the same ethnicity, but their first president Seretse Khama handled that unscrupulously. From what I read, he took the power away from tribal elders and gave it to district councils. Seized their land, stripped them of right to collect taxes.

[@julius43461]

@@ivancertic5197 I think the big issue was also the language. You need to find a way to make people use the same language that is either neutral, or is forced on everyone else. English would be a good fit at the moment. Many people speak it already, it's international, meaning that it's not even a language of any specific country anymore(see BBC Pidgin lol)

[@jamesdean1143]

You have done the best coverage of the war in Yugoslavia on YT. Perhaps something on Nedic, Ljotic or Slovenia in future ?

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks. I made such videos: Slovenia in WW2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWalaJmFZc-GqMU Serbian Collaboration in WW2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6XSdoRog9Z8ldU

[@emperorshowa8842]

Can you make a video about the Soviet Afghan war?

[@jimjones1130]

I see we still have to pretend the British were not responsible for this mess

[@juanzulu1318]

Well, indeed they arent responsible. Responsible are the antisemites of the cult of Mo.

[@HistoryHustle]

See my video on that.

[@juanzulu1318]

@@jimjones1130 the brits werent responsible for that mess. The mess is caused by a medieval ideology.

[@victornewman9904]

No, ultimately, it was the Ottomans and their islamic imperialism.

[@juanzulu1318]

@@jimjones1130 the british? No, the mess already started much sooner than when the brits arrived.

[@eazyemco]

The picture with the red fez is not from WW2 but from a modern reenactment group.

[@HistoryHustle]

I see but it represents it nontheless.

[@DzontraVolta-of5pq]

Prijavi ga KZbin za iznosenje netacnih informacija i mrznja govora.

[@eazyemco]

@@DzontraVolta-of5pq o čemu ti?

[@DzontraVolta-of5pq]

@@eazyemco Procitaj kakav netacan sadrzaj ovaj cetnik/ustasa postavlja, procitaj moju poruku jos jednom, i mucni malo glavom. Necu ti jos crtati! Cuj o cemu ja. Nije ni cudo da je BiH u ratu stradala ovoliko kad imamo mamlaze. Dobro smo i opstali!

[@brankomudrinic3916]

The most important about bosnian muslims you did not say,during second war world,they committed genocide against Serbs, Jews and Roma, as Nazi members of the Croatian Ustasha or SS division Hanjar or Muslim militias in the NDH. They made up 30% of the Nazi Croatian army, and in Bosnia they made up 54% of the Nazi NDH formations. Thanks to this genocide, together with the Croats, they outvoted the Serbs in the 1992 referendum for the independent state of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Serbs were the majority population in Bosnia before WW2. Today, Bosnian Muslims are the absolute majority population in BH.

[@harisjaganjac9884]

Branko imas potrebu da seres i lazes prvo vidi sta su tvoi srbi uradili i zasto je nastala he divizija radi klanja u istocnoj Bosni

[@HistoryHustle]

I detect Balkan tribalism here. With the typical "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.

[@Blackadder015]

@@harisjaganjac9884 Sta su uradili? ko je klao po podrinju u prvom svetskom ratu?

[@harisjaganjac9884]

@@Blackadder015 ko je kako u istočnoj Hercegovini u prvom svjetskom ratu i posle toga

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

It was an informative Waffen SS division as Bosnian collaborative to Nazism invaders of Yugoslavia... during WW2. This magnificent work was shared by an amazing ( history Hustle) channel....introduced by Sir Stefan 🙏....thanks for sharing 👍🏻

[@MikeBalkansky]

No way! The Bosnian muslims are angels! Always been……:

[@HistoryHustle]

Not all...

[@goranmiljus2664]

Jihadi clowns.

[@danicao.6778]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🐖💨

[@baklava6138]

Compared to the ustashe and cetniks, yes they are.

[@danicao.6778]

@@baklava6138 Mujo ne seri bolan baaa!!!

[@zbena7044]

In 1945 when the WWII why they didn’t capturedAmin Alhussaini and send him to Nuremberg court

[@HistoryHustle]

Cause he escaped.

[@chrisrobert5252]

2 things to understand: he was a real hero in the Middle East and the French and British were in rivalry for control of the region. The French "arrested" him and then gave him a false passport in May 1946 so that he could travel to Cairo.

[@kozak1938]

Amin the Arab Nationalist Imam guy looks like Ryan Gosling

[@HistoryHustle]

Indeed.

[@FlyxPat]

Alongside religious and nationalist tensions, Bosniak and Croatian officers and men who’d served in the Austro-Hungarian army were discriminated against by the Serb-controlled Jugoslav state. Before that, there were anti-Serb riots after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand and then reprisals by the Serbs after WW1. Explains why the Balkan Germans, Croatians and Bosniaks welcomed the Germans and the subsequent events

[@HistoryHustle]

Indeed.

[@frostdoom1705]

I respect your will for bringing history to the light but you ignored many crucial facts that change the whole picture

[@HistoryHustle]

Feel free to share.

[@SRB.4S]

Before that, almost all Bosnian Muslims were in the Ustasha since the establishment of the NDH until 1943. Even in the Handschar government itself, as ministers. Later, they partly transferred to the SS Handschar and SS Kama divisions. Which was formed in 1943.In essence, at least 95% of the militarily capable Muslims from Bosnia and Serbia were in fascist and Nazi puppet units. Which of course is nothing new, it is a constant, it also coincides with previous wars and centuries ago.According to partisan sources, during the war there were 2.5% Muslims in the partisans after the fall of Italy, until the end of the war in 1945, which is practically at the level of a statistical error. Before that, not even 1.5%, so the story that they were there to a large extent is absolutely fabricated and not true. Also, among all the peoples of the former Yugoslavia, Muslims were the least involved in the partisan movement. However, your story that they joined the Nazis to protect themselves is a fairy tale for small children?! You are deliberately avoiding the fact that since the establishment of the NDH in 1941, Muslims have even been in the Ustasha government. And especially militarily, Bosnian Muslims were represented in the Ustasha units, even the majority of the Ustasha and Home Guard units were made up of Muslims in Bosnia. That is why the Muslims were targeted by the Chetniks and Partisans, not the other way around. And that is not why they are in a difficult position and that they are innocent victims"?! And "they will protect their local communities"?! So that they will go from the Ustasha kelro Nazis to the German Nazi SS divisions, where the bearers of the SS insignia and the Croatian checkerboard will also be considered Croats?! So they are practically double Nazis, they serve the Ustasha and the SS division, in both formations as puppets of the Ustasha and Nazi Germany! Sir if you are a serious historian then this is a heavy nonsense you uttered ?! And even after that, instead of joining the partisans, they didn't do that, they joined the SS German Nazi division and that when Germany had practically lost the war and Italy had already fallen?! Also, after returning from France and the training they had there, they slaughtered and killed in Serbia and Srem above all, almost exclusively civilians, far from Bosnia... So that part of the story is certainly not true for you. You also "accidentally" forgot to say that the Bosnian Muslim, Halim Malkoč, received their highest award, the Iron Cross, from the German Nazis precisely because of the suppression of this petty and small-scale rebellion! Himmelr said that he was disappointed that the former and current allies, the Muslims from Bosnia, acted like this... Thinking of the alliance with the Muslims during the Austrian occupation and now during Nazi Germany, in both cases the Muslims were faithful servants of the occupiers. If you explained it well, the Germans were looking for those Muslims who had already served the previous occupier Austria, and the unit was named after the Turkish occupier in order to serve the current German Nazi occupier... Nothing new for Muslims from Bosnia, history repeats itself. Whatever occupier comes to Bosnia, there are Muslims to serve him faithfully. The Austrians knew that, Hitler knew that, people from the US and NATO know that today.

[@HistoryHustle]

Lots of Balkan tribalism here. With the typical "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.

[@SRB.4S]

@@HistoryHustle Well, that's exactly the kind of justification you're making, my friend, in your video, for reasons I don't know. You say, I paraphrase: "The Muslim Ustasha in the NDH, headed by them together with the Croats, were threatened by them and their local communities by the Partisans and Chetniks"! Because you asked yourself why?! If they weren't Nazis and fascists and mass murderers, wouldn't they be enraged by Chetniks and partisans?! so how do you go on to say "so the Muslims decided to go from Pavelic to Hitler, because they thought that if the Ustasha fascists would not supposedly protect them, Hitler's SS Nazis would"?! They will not join the partisans, but the Nazis, to "protect" themselves, and that when it is already clear to everyone that Hitler lost the war?! What comedy?! That's what you just said to your friend?! You're talking about a rebellion, 4 of them out of 26,000 Muslim SS Nazis?! And one of those Muslim Nazis, precisely because of calming down that rebellion, received the Nazi Iron Cross as a reward?! Did they forget to say that?! There is no tibalism, you just need to tell the whole truth and not half the truth, then get angry with me?!

[@MaksFaks-kl1zj]

@@HistoryHustle Note to self: Get the hell out of Balkans if you are from the West, we do not need your "advices" here and stop sticking your nose into everyone's land.

[@HistoryHustle]

That is exactly what I mean with Balkan tribalism.

[@harunburekovic3868]

​​​@@SRB.4S So first of all your gonna completely ignore: - Bosnian Uprising 1831-32 - Bosnian Revolt 1875-78 - Bosnian Resistance 1878 - Herzegovina Insurgency 1882 Also the total estimate of Bosniaks being in partisans was 3.5% of total 800,000 fighters of Yugoslav Partisans. While Yugoslav Partisans in Bosnia had around 100,000 volunteers. Now it is estimated in 1977 that around 23% of Bosniaks have received pension from the partisan movement, and around 3% of them were in Croatia. That's already about 27,500 fighters which is much bigger considering that the Handschar division since its creation in 1943 lost around 9,000 fighters just in space of two years in 1945. Maximum estimates say that Handschar Division had around 21,000 fighters in 1943 minus 9,000 makes them 12,000 fighters in 1945. Pretty unpopular that N*zis even needs to mix Volksdeutschers and Croats into this "muslim legion". And let's not forget Bosniaks who started to identify as Croatian muslims such as Osman, Džafer and Nihad Kulenović, Hasan Biber, Ademaga Mešić, those kind of guys had big positions in Ustasha regigme so we don't claim them as Bosniaks. Also including independent Bosniak millitias that were popular in Sarajevo, Tuzla, Foča and Bihać could make this 26% (27,500) even more bigger considering facts that Green Cadre later aligned themselves with Partisans, got incorporated into 16th Muslim Brigade who is gonna later liberate Sarajevo. Also Husaka's Military, he has changed alliances multiple times for his own good, but his last alliance was with Partisans, and he got assassinated in May 1944. Also let's not forget the fact that some partisan local forces were refusing to sign Bosniak partisans and that the majority of Bosniaks were sceptical of partisans since they had also committed atrocities on them.

[@christophertwhite]

I spent a year in bosnia with ifor around tuzla. I remember lots of mud that then froze and thawed. Gotham city. We had aburnt out serbian village that we could see from another base camp, camp dallas, that i looked at daily wondering what happened to the serb families that lived there. USA should never have got involved in bosnian war against serbs...bosnian invasion is theprecedent led to slippery slope of next 25 years of neverending warmongering by usa politicians.

[@adi862]

you shouldn’t have stopped the Bosnian offensive and should have lifted of the embargo.

[@o-8205]

It would not be bad to mention their crimes in Bosnia from 1941-1945 against Serbian civilians. Thank you.

[@MB-sh3dz]

The SS Handschar did not even exist until 1943, so first read a bit to inform yourself and then ask a question. Not so different from the Chetniks and Ustasha, puppets who killed their own people.

[@stevematijas3524]

​@@MB-sh3dzbefore ranting about people informing themselves inform yourself with reality not western invented history

[@HistoryHustle]

I have noticed Balkan tribalism. With the typical "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.

[@MB-sh3dz]

@@HistoryHustle I don't understand it, if you use logic you can clearly see that every armed force driven by nationalistic/ethnic ideas was prone to war crimes why would "your side" be the exception? Every SS unit including Handschar, the chetniks, the ustashe, even radical communist elements in the partisan movement-they all did ethnic cleansing and mass murder. We could go into debate on which one of those factions was the worst, but we should all accept the fact that none of those factions left ww2 without their genocidal mark on the map. Nothing to be proud of, nothing to glorify, and no war crime to justify another one. Thank you for keeping your videos objective.

[@NB-kq7lm]

That was the true genocide and only on this teritories

[@beachboy0505]

Excellent video 📹 We are because if history ❤

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching.

[@benomer2011]

I heard from Palestinians that Bosniaks were participating and defending Jerusalem but I had no idea where they come from and how. Now it makes sense. Thank you.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@muharremdemiraydn7766]

Can you make the balkan wars

[@doublebubble9864]

Top presentation 👏

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks!

[@bigsarge2085]

Fascinating, and yet terrifying.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@adi862]

why terrifying lol

[@bigsarge2085]

@@adi862 Because of the consistent war crimes these types of units perpetrated.

[@adi862]

@@bigsarge2085 which war crime? ;(

[@tonyantonio0139]

Cetniks never attacked, only saved people from death's hands !

[@HistoryHustle]

Nonsense.

[@justanapple8510]

Interesting because I just read a book about this!

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@RalfStejskal]

Most of them Running away when the Battle is starting

[@HistoryHustle]

See video.

[@RalfStejskal]

@@HistoryHustle Handschar was a very Bad Division No Ritterkreuzträger

[@smrdljivivlah5879]

Thats why austria has a song honoring them in ww1

[@Abuamina001]

This story is so peculiar that it deserves its own big budget film.

[@HistoryHustle]

Sure does.

[@rml1643]

Where Islam goes , blood flows

[@krajisnikbih3174]

Many of the muslims from Eastern Bosnia (then Eastern Croatia from 1941 to 1945) that joined up with the Waffen-SS Handschar did so because they were survivors from the Serbian Chetnik attacks against mainly muslim villages and towns along the Drina river. In other words they joined to get revenge on the Serbs. Some Serbian Chetnik massacres as witnessed by the communist led Yugoslav Partisans occurred in towns like Foca where an estimated 2,000 civilians including women & children were murdered by the Serbian Chetniks. Many bodies were thrown off the bridge there into the Drina river.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your insights Krajisnikbih.

[@rml1643]

@@krajisnikbih3174 many Serbians were massacred by Bosnian Moslems and Croatian Ustasa. Only in Jasenovac they killed half a million Serbs, Jews and Gipsies. The Chetniks never comitted such atrocities on moslem and Croatian population. Claiming that Moslems joined SS just because of Chetniks is the moslem narrative desperately trying to explain why they joined the biggest murderer army of the world

[@rml1643]

@@krajisnikbih3174 this is massive exaggeration

[@krajisnikbih3174]

@@rml1643 yeah, right, its only muslims who are the problem.... never anybody else 😁

[@karlheinzvonkroemann2217]

As usual the Brits are innocent...

[@HistoryHustle]

Explain.

[@StrivenLight-yj1lm]

my grandfather was a SS Handzar.

[@nemiw4429]

Why was my comment deleted? "If theres mutiny ofc its us hard headed Yugoslavs." I myself am Yugoslav & anyone with the slightest experience with Yugoslavs [in Yugoslavia, or raised in Yugoslavia] knows how hard headed we are. Specialy someone like me that was raised German speaking & got a very good & high education as Software Developer outside Yugoslavia, therefore has the ability to compare. The Yugoslavian character is very unique. It had to be. My guess is the natural selection due to the territory. Its placed where essentially completly different worlds meet & was the crossroad Western & Central Europe, Eurasia, Africa & the Middle East. This led to only people with the hardest character & most talented warriors survived. Im pretty sure thats why we are so good at sports & rank high at many sports despite having a small population. The Dinaric Alps is also home to the tallest people. Study showed males age 17 at 186cm (6'1.1").

[@HistoryHustle]

@@nemiw4429 dunno, YT does that sometimes.

[@janviljoen-rm8zs]

so the story of Bosnian SS fighting the Russians at the fall of Berlin was not true may 1945.

[@wolfgangemmerich7552]

No , the last foreign volonteer SS division fighting the last stand in berlin was the frech ,, SS- Legion Charlemagne " !

[@EroSonogSvijeta]

They got their asses handed to them after the war...

[@Timrath]

Pronunciation nitpick: "Eugen" in "Prinz Eugen" is stressed on the last syllable, not on the first. "eu-GEN", not "EU-gen". Unfortunately, almost all youtube historians pronounce it wrong.

[@HistoryHustle]

I see.

[@chrishanzek8930]

Unfortunately, most partisans did the opposite of liberation replacing one authoritarian for another.

[@ivancertic5197]

Authoritarian and criminal are not all the same.

[@weplaygames1836]

What I like about this division is that they joined to stop the chetniks/communists from killing their people and not because of racism or hate. Of course there is always others that did join for something else.

[@HistoryHustle]

That is where it came down to.

[@DRFelGood]

Thanks!

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks for your donation Jesse. Have a good week.

[@cvajz]

I don't know what will happen with Europe if Balkan will play peacefull game in time of war

[@HistoryHustle]

?

[@adamradziwill]

Great video!

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@drazamihajlovic7487]

Cetniks is regular Serbian army working with london. Muslim and Croats nazies still live on thise lands .

[@HistoryHustle]

I detect Balkan tribalism here. With the typical "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.

[@smrdljivivlah5879]

If they were so regular why did tito remove them where 50% of partisans were serbs

[@janicar9326]

we Bosnians did it so we could defend ourselves from the Chetniks. That's why we rebelled against the SS because they wanted to send us to the eastern front. therefore, if you are talking about Bosniaks, first learn the history of WW2.

[@HistoryHustle]

You haven't seen the video.

[@davidraper5798]

Fascinating and appalling at the same time, I know the SS had Muslim "recruits" but nothing much more beyond a few photos of SS Muslims in fezzes.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching.

[@jokodihaynes419]

As i remember the 30th waffen SS division made up of Ukrainians and belorussians mutinied too snd join the french resistance after the war they join the french foreign legion

[@chrisrobert5252]

These Ukrainians were originally part of the Schutzmannschaft protection battalion before being integrated into the 30th Waffen SS division in August 1944. This explains why they seized the first opportunity to fight the Nazis and contacted Captain Leclerc, who was in charge of the Belmont maquis, on 27 August, to join the FFI.

[@HistoryHustle]

Interesting to read.

[@ilijasavic5567]

Hvala na istini!

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@zenster1097]

I wish we knew more about Arab Nationalists/Palestinian Nationalists beyond Bosnians in WW2 (and beyond Amin Al Husseini).

[@HistoryHustle]

Interesting topic.

[@volkansonmezsoy9540]

I recommend the book of George Lepre ; Himmler's Bosnian Division

[@HistoryHustle]

Used that one for this episode also.

[@_blento_2637]

You should pronounce it as Handžar …. That “ž” should be pronounced as “J” in “Joe” … btw, handžar is small curved knife from ottoman time used in “one on one” battles

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@cvajz]

Handžar is brother of Srbosjek

[@eazyemco]

Thanks for another greay video. Just a quick question: Was it a 'Muslim SS Division' or the 'Croatian SS Division'?

[@kralpetarkrescimeriv.terpi6043]

Don't mix nationality with religion. It was called : - 13. 'Handschar' (1st Croatian), - 23. 'Kama' (2nd Croatian). Handschar was formed from 40% of members of 'Crna Legija'. At that times Bosnian Muslims were aware of their Croatian blood, but Bosniaks belong to the Croatian tribe (Croats by the knee) as Evlija Celebi from the 16th century calls them, he lived at the Bosnian court for 30 years. Croatian = Nationality Bosniak = Regionality Slavonian = Regionality Hercegovinian = Regionality I hope you understand brother. Long live Bosnia&Croatia 🇭🇷⚜️

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing.

[@nikolavukicevic9799]

​@@kralpetarkrescimeriv.terpi6043 Not for long you will live

[@MarkoKraguljac]

@@HistoryHustle Can you see what you were talking about in this video still between the lines? :3

[@HistoryHustle]

?

[@TheColombiano89]

Can you cover Iran in WW2. They changed their name and the only country to be considered "Aryans" by the Germans under Nuremberg law.

[@HistoryHustle]

Perhaps I will talk about it in the future. For now I have this older video for you. Please give it a watch and lemme know your thoughts on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pICrfIWfj6yHf9U&pp=ygUXaXJhbiB3dzIgaGlzdG9yeSBodXN0bGU%3D

[@hotjanin1988]

Let me give you a perspective from 2nd hand because 1st one would be from my father which explained it to me...year is somewhere 1900 to 1920 in what is present day montenegro. My family is muslim and living in a province what is called sanjak or sanđak in the old days. Balkan wars happen in well balkans and ottoman lose the teritories but the people that had not really sworn alligence to them but more like adopted their culture and religion remained. Now the land specificly where my forefathers come from plav and gusinje has become a spoil of war for the montenegrans. The montenegrans being a proud, religious and patriarchal society didnt wish for their new "spoils" to be muslim but orthodox christian and gave them a chance either die or convert to christendom....There were some who converted and many more who died but some survived the onslought perhaps only because of berlin congress pressuring them to stop not sure exactly. And here comes the point what i wanted to explain following this prologue. Many muslims just like my family (but not all of them) didnt feel the sentiment that the germans were the bad guys and montenegrins and serbs were good. Heavens knows they probably heard of british, french and americans from some old tales if any. To simplify they choose to fight the evil they knew and in this story the proverb the enemy of my enemy is my friend would be an excellent example...

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing.

[@sal78sal]

germans were the only people not killing them for their religion.

[@ivancertic5197]

@@hotjanin1988 To put it in context, history doesn't start in 1900, and there were centuries of bad blood between brothers of different religions. There already ware uncountable wars, raids, pillaging and monstrosity committed by those same Muslim Slavs upon their Ortodox brothers, and all of that happened in period between 1500 and 1900. You can't expect zero retribution for that. On the other hand, whatever happened in period between 1900 and 1920 - Muslim collaborators surpass it on unimaginable scale, when committing genocide of velika and Piva in 1943. The only such crime, officially recognised by the state of Montenegro as genocide, besides the genocide in Independent state of Croatia.

[@ivancertic5197]

@@hotjanin1988 To put it in context, history doesn't start in 1900, and there were centuries of bad blood between brothers of different religion. There already were uncountable wars, raids, pillaging and monstrosity committed by those same Muslim Slavs upon their Ortodox brothers, and all of that happened in period between 1500 and 1900. You can't expect zero retribution for that.

[@ivancertic5197]

@@hotjanin1988 On the other hand, whatever happened in period between 1900 and 1920 - local Muslim collaborators surpass it on unimaginable scale, when committing genocide of velika and Piva in 1943. The only such crime (officially recognised by the state of Montenegro as genocide), in Yugoslavia, besides the genocide in Independent state of Croatia.

[@cbroz7492]

..subscribed... ..

[@HistoryHustle]

Welcome to the channel!

[@mtljbc6568]

Pretty much they wanted to protect themselves.

[@HistoryHustle]

Indeed.

[@Chiller11]

Much like the Finns, the expedient way for the Bosnian Muslims to defend their lands and people from those attacking them was to be armed, trained and supplied by the Germans.

[@HistoryHustle]

That is where it came down to.

[@МиланПотић-б9х]

Handzar division were trained and spend some time in France where done atrocities. How did they defend their nation in France?

[@JohnWick-yh5kn]

​@@МиланПотић-б9хChetniks also were allies with Germans ans killed many people

[@serdradion4010]

Finns were attacked by the USSR in Winter war 1939, with no provocation. The were not Axis itself and had no SS units.

[@user-hn9tq5yf2n]

No that analogy is not correct you can’t make that analogy, the Bosnian Muslims were not in any way threatened or persecuted by the Serbs until they started attacking Serbian villages and killing innocent Serbian civilians as they opportunistically became a proxy for the German Nazi occupation power and they also allied with the Croatian fascist Ustashas committing horrendous crimes against Serbs in Bosnia and Hercegovina, the attacks from Serb formations towards Bosnian Muslims was only reactive actions as revenge because of atrocities that the Bosnian Muslims committed before, these revenge attacks we’re mainly committed in rage eye for a eye and unfortunately Bosnian Muslim civilians were also not speared in these attacks, but they themselves provocad this with their actions if they hadn’t done what they did in the first place there wouldn’t have been any reason for rage against them and this kind of revenge reaction from the Serbs wouldn’t occur. There is a saying that describes this very well, you reap what you sow.

[@elocelo1461]

Dude at 06 isn't handzar that is like caucus brigades or some shit bosnians wore the fez

[@HistoryHustle]

I do know lot of material got mixed up. The fez was standard but not all had them.

[@chrisrauber6602]

06:22: We dont see a devout Muslim leader with a glass of wine here, or?

[@HistoryHustle]

I doubt it..

[@robertrodeck8103]

0:0:44 Are you sure that's coffee in that 'cup'?

[@HistoryHustle]

lol

[@subaruadventures]

I never subscribe or hit the bell because the creator asks so dont bother asking.

[@HistoryHustle]

Ok.

[@balkandepot]

… not only Serbs, Jews and Gypsy but above all communists.

[@HistoryHustle]

?

[@9and7]

13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian) That's the right name of the unit. And the mutiny was small. ANd NO 2:39 that is categorically untrue and and outright lie. Please get the history correct. This video is apocryphal.

[@HistoryHustle]

Care to explain?

[@9and7]

@@HistoryHustle It's in the comment. The name of the unit is off. And where you get that AP and the U wanted to convert the Muslims is false. It goes against Starcevic's ideology to the core and I've never ever heard or read anyone even suggest it. Please source. And again the mutiny was because of breach of contract and a small one at that who were Commies. (had to add).

[@HistoryHustle]

Sources can be found below the video. Care to share yours?

[@9and7]

@@HistoryHustle Then either you or your sources named the unit wrong. Also, where does it say anywhere that the Muslims of Bosnia were to be converted? That is something that should be referenced directly. You can read the writings of Starcevic or even Pavelic yourself Redzic isn't the best to use (because of his bias) and my sources are for instance Ivo Goldstein, and Ivo Banac to start.

[@HistoryHustle]

I believe it was Pavlowich who claimed this. If it is not true I stand corrected. It is a small detail though.

[@Theplanettera]

Croatians and Bosnians hate eachoter but they joined against Serbs

[@HistoryHustle]

In the 1990s too but then fought against each other at Mostar.

[@Theplanettera]

@@HistoryHustle I know the second bloodiest battle of that stupid war

[@Damn03]

Handjar was small division and Bosnians fought against them also In ww2 real Bosnians were with Tito whole war

[@HistoryHustle]

See video.

[@felixcertus2721]

how about poland? no pole has ever served in waffen ss, and there was no polish waffen ss... what a stat!

[@HistoryHustle]

Did I claim this?

[@felixcertus2721]

@@HistoryHustle you miss the point, historical curiosity is not what nations collaborated with German agressors, the curiosities are nations that hadn't. don't internalise and dont get defensive, most of us know about shamefull WW2 past of majority of nations of Europe.

[@HistoryHustle]

Curiosities are everywhere.

[@felixcertus2721]

@@HistoryHustle more like, shame is everywhere... some nations are strangely proud of collaboration with the occupant, croatians, ukrainians, estonians, belarussins, slovaks, irish... etc etc. shameful.

[@nohlavopi8617]

You do realise most of this man back than where proclaiming that they are Croats who folow Islam? The term - bosniaks was invented 20-30years after this events of ww2

[@HistoryHustle]

I didn't use the term Bosniak.

[@nohlavopi8617]

@@HistoryHustle no you did not. But you put Croatia intentionaly every time in context of killing anybodey..even when it is not true at all. Muslims where butchered by your belowed Chectniks from serbia. This is one of the reasons they where totaly comited to NDH. Serbian chetniks did massive atrocites against all - Croats, Jews, gipsises etc.

[@smrdljivivlah5879]

Nope bosnjanin was a term long before that

[@aasphaltmueller5178]

I think the Photo at 04:01 shows K&K Austrian Bosnian troops at prayer

[@HistoryHustle]

Correct.

[@dannystranahan1004]

It's amazing when we look at history, we can see who the first king of Israel was Saul. Saul Saul, son of Kish, of the tribe of Benjamin, was the first king of Israel. He was appointed by the prophet Samuel. The second king of israel was king david. So these people that call Israel by the fake name of Palestine, they can't name the first king of so-called Palestine or the first President of Palestine, but there's so much world history that it was Israel. He never called Palestine until the Romans changed the name of Israel.

[@HistoryHustle]

How is this relevant to this video?

[@manofwar2354]

You make no sense In ur bible it say abraham lived wandering in paleatanian land

[@seljak90]

Chetniks were not only Serb-oriented, they were 99% Sefbs, Serbian radicals. They hated muslims the same way they hated them in Srebrenica massacre in last war in Bosnia. This muslims and Croats in Bosnia asked for any help and joined ustasha or partisans. Because of this terror over muslims, they asked ustasha and Germans for protection against chetniks. They needed arms. So they joined SS. Their mutiny happened when they were told that they had to go in war out of Bosnia. They wanted to defend their relatives in Bosnia.

[@HistoryHustle]

In the Chetniks in the beginning also non-Serbs served.

[@markogasevic239]

@@HistoryHustle in partizan maybe mate that was yugoslavian bolsevism, Tito disallowed every serb to have slava (serbian family holiday) cetniks are formed before ww1 to help in movin Turks away. So no one but serb or who feels serb was that. Try to find movie noz, some of the best explanation of bosniaks and how they become bosniaks and. That movie is must watch to try to get that thing 100% dank u wel 🫡