The Bot That Wreaked Havoc On RuneScape

[@megamitchel100]

As interesting as you are telling the history of RuneScape, your editing is absolutely amazing. Serious props to you.

[@BlondeJesus420]

How?

[@megamitchel100]

@@BlondeJesus420 okay, education time. I'm a college student learning about animation, and this course tends to have a lot of focus on video editing. While none of my classes focus directly on this style of video I'm going to by applying what I've learned from those courses and apply them to here to show why I do believe this guy has great editing. First off, one thing you're taught is to only show what is important to the audience. Now this doesn't mean not to decorate your scenes and environments, but it does mean you want your primary focus to be on the main cast or to relate to what you're watching. In a video format like this (which is more videogame/documentary style) this basically translates to only showing the game when people could use a visual example. And there's a ton of visual examples that pugger ends up showing off over the course of this video. In fact, anything that is shown on screen here always relates to what's being shown, which among KZbin is rather rare unsurprisingly. Which leads me to my next point, the sheer amount of clips captured for this video was no joke. I may not know how he managed to gather these clips but it always felt intentional. Too many KZbinrs will keep an image up for as long as possible to avoid using another slide or clip to make the workload lighter. If you ever notice how many cuts are in a film there's two signs. Either "please stop you are shaking me around harder than Tony Hawk's signiture Indy 900" or that every scene is there for a deliberate reason which as I described above, Pugger 100% accomplished the later. And I do want to point out one thing because this kinda plagues rookie writers, just because there aren't any fancy editing tricks, you honestly don't need those tools to be a fantastic editor. You don't need high end graphics or lens flares or super fancy slide transitions like on PowerPoint (which you *REALLY* don't need and if you're going to use transition slides, please stick to one and not go all fancy with every single transition. Especially with video, it'll only impress little Timmy and make everyone else just think "oh okay this guy doesn't know how to edit"). A good editor is one that ends up hiding within the background instead of being front and center. A good audience will enjoy their attention being drawn to your topic. Fellow editors will point out the hidden tricks you use. TL;DR, good use of visuals leads to happy audience.

[@BlondeJesus420]

@@megamitchel100 Yeah I've never looked at it like that, and you are absolutely right now that I notice these things. Thanks for explaining :)

[@megamitchel100]

@@BlondeJesus420 not a problem my friend. :)

[@deatheternal720]

I saw your pfp and thought it was muta

[@churchether]

"I'm different than you" Kaitnieks wore a fedora, 100 %

[@kurtthorsten4463]

pretty sure thats on point haha

[@Kaitnieks]

Great video! The reason AutoRune community went underground was for mostly technical/copyright reasons: Andrew changed the protocol in a way that made it impossible to inject commands without having a copyrighted text in the memory, on purpose. I was afraid he would send lawyers after me (which he did in the very end).

[@rymdalkis]

Hmm imagine being a copyright lawyer and getting that phonecall from Andrew

[@Kaitnieks]

@@rymdalkis and on top of that they would be going after a jobless student in a country that wasn't in EU (yet).

[@Kaitnieks]

Actually, now that I think about it more, when I finally closed the forums, Latvia might had already joined EU...

[@Grishyy]

I'm curious to know what you did post-Runescape. Did you continue making cheats/scripts for other games? Maybe get a programming job?

[@Kaitnieks]

@@Grishyy no cheating or gaming whatsoever. I started my first programming job during the Runescape thing and I just continued that.

[@TrenticleesGaming]

The craziest part is that someone was ahead of Zezima on the highscores

[@LimeJ0SH]

look up "N0va Lyfe" think some 1 made a real good video about em. Dudes an absolute legend, maxed in 2 years, passed zezima to be #1 on leader boards and quit the next day lol wtf

[@Smokin_Snowman]

I always remember King Duffy being right next to Zezima on all the highscores, I used to play with him, he was cool as hell lol

[@lukesfish5868]

I remember when TKS was number 1 for aaaages way before Zezima... Zezima is only famous because he stayed number 1 for so long.

[@itzliterallyraw]

@@LimeJ0SH Novalyfe is so friendly he also play in this time of 2020 but quitted a month ago

[@justinmcmanus9152]

"Yogosun" The day he passed zezima.... Everyone went wild

[@jztdoop]

Dang I remember Kaitnieks aka Aivars Irmejs, he was a living legend and still is. This guy has made so many windows applications that we're still using this day. Nice content mate!

[@Levi_Tollefson]

Lol sounds like that kaitnieks had a bit of a God complex towards the end

[@manantialzeus420]

Yeah I agree but, you have to give him credit tho he is kinda right in some twisted way lol

[@imkingg8968]

I thought it was half respectable since he was teaching people instead of just giving them the answers

[@voyagesdelame1]

Yep. Honestly kind of justified though.. No one else has done what he did. Although if he was really 200 IQ, he would have foreseen the JMods using it to crack it, and put a keylogger in that only activates when you enter one of the known mod's usernames or something.

[@LasseRafnDk]

Such a nerd seriously 😂 calm down dude, all you did was do packet manipulation of a game.

[@TheCpadron19]

@@LasseRafnDk Guarantee he stopped because Jagex made it too big brained for this cheater to figure out.

[@TheCpadron19]

Conspiracy: Sir Pugger is the biggest cheater out there, and makes these videos just to get rid of the competition 😉.

[@hunterfpv5201]

haha i like that

[@skibumb16]

I wish this was true, but only for the entertainment value of him making a video showing how he has been the 200 IQ cheater this entire time. All the discords were his and the people he talked to were working for him without knowing it.

[@TheCpadron19]

@@skibumb16 bro I was literally joking lmao. There can't be two Mr. Bug's right?

[@Youseeinthisrn]

@@TheCpadron19 Sir Pugger should do a video on him. I remember his like 10B "giveaway" I think it was?

[@TheCpadron19]

@@Youseeinthisrn I just think that there's still so much we don't know about the Mr. Bug bullshit, and thats why he doesn't want to make the video yet... Don't want to say something that could get you into legal trouble.

[@magicwaffl3z]

I remember when the bankers started getting killed, had no idea what the story was behind it though. Sweet video

[@cartman64439]

You kidding me? I used to read all about this back in 05.

[@hunterfpv5201]

the good ole days when we were kids now we got bills

[@magicwaffl3z]

@@hunterfpv5201 yup :( hahaha

[@lumby5335]

yeah i remember that crap. played legit while all these guys got rich.

[@MrCEO-1]

Cant believe this is history now..

[@MrBatista220]

Pugger please do more of these. You probably won't see my comment, but rs classic was literally my whole childhood lmao. I learned to play when I was 6. The nostalgia of this video was incredible, I really enjoyed this video.

[@Robstrap]

He literally only makes videos like this one lol

[@ChillyNuts4u]

@@Robstrap ive never seen him make a rsc vid, what did he make them on?

[@hunterfpv5201]

bro this is what i was about to comment bro forreal man i only plays classic the best time

[@MrBatista220]

@@Robstrap yeah where is his rsc videos

[@maverickmills1856]

@@Robstrap speak up, noob. Tell them where all these "rsc" videos are.

[@SirPugger]

Let me know if you enjoyed the video by leaving a like (or dislike)! I haven't made any videos like this before, but there's so much rich history in the RuneScape cheating community, so let me know if you want more.

[@statikrage]

More videos of you and Jagex actively dismantling bot-farms in the present please

[@Emeldavi]

Going to go into the recent issues of RS3 exploits/dupes? For example when Archaeology was released recently there was an exploit that allowed people to gain 50m smithing experience in just hours, which prompted Jagex to disable the entire skill game-wide until it was hotfixed.

[@cotyluckett]

Man does this video take me BACK!!!!!!!

[@matthewkelly28]

You should make a video on reinet and wartnet, with the bottling client skulltorcha

[@TheMerschTwins]

Yes pl0x

[@Bmacthesage]

Yes please do more of these. I love listening/watching documentaries about games I play or have played like Runescape and League.

[@SilentNightBodomNight]

Wow. It’s been over 18 years since I started playing. Crazy seeing all those old school photos. Fun fact I still have my Santa hat from 2002 when Jagex randomly spawned them over rs during the Christmas event. It’s been in my bank for 18 years. Crazy....

[@Eruptor1000]

insane

[@ruskibruski]

It’s worth1.5b now in rs3

[@invisiblepker]

Worth 3b now

[@mangaliify]

Kaitnieks in my language (latvian), means harm, harming.

[@Davisrullzs]

Somebody that causes damage. Saboteur.

[@Avene1]

Vismaz ir ar ko lepoties :D

[@frostygaming4142]

@@Avene1 yeee XD TAISNĪBa

[@girtsosins4526]

Laba diena jūsu mājas

[@mangaliify]

@@Avene1 Atkarībā kā uz to skatās. RSN?

[@nicklphag178]

Love it. Runescape history is something I was always proud to know and have been a part of. This video brings a lot back

[@im.weasel]

Tries to justify that he did it to teach people to code. Says he didn't do it for money but sells the cheats for 15 bucks.

[@im-essi]

Justify implies that they think what they're doing is wrong. I think it checks out that he just wanted to cheat himself but found all the existing cheats filled with malware and shit, so he wanted to step up (or down, I suppose, for all the non-cheaters) to create something better. And you can do things not for the money as such, and still sell it. If it sells, it sells, no matter if you're just doing it for shits and giggles or not.

[@ThePCguy17]

He said he wasn't in it for *in-game* items and money. He never said he wasn't in it to make irl profit.

[@Ivy-rx1oj]

I mean, yeah, if you give the thing away for free then the mods just download it and fix the exploits. That's just... Basic common sense.

[@Eruptor1000]

@Woops I mean... it's fascinating. Breaking the game like that.. it had to be done by someone, he has a good like status in the game.

[@blindfire765]

I look forward to everytime u post a video! Keep it up!! This was so educational, who would have been able to bump into this information years later??

[@ey4226]

I have a memory from when I was younger and played Runescape (or maybe it was darkscape??) but have never heard of anyone experiencing the same thing I did: Somehow I learned the IG names of a number of Jagex mods either by googling or from seeing them talking. What I would do, for reasons still unapparent to myself, is repeatedly report the mods in-game for spamming, cheating etc. I did this a lot and I mean A LOT a lot. Here is the strange part. A mod whose name I don't remember teleported me to a random island in this dark zone. It was just an island, no entrance or exit. This mod started to grill me in (as an 8-10-year-old) a very daunting way. He basically asked me why I was reporting mods and between everything he typed he would put a -_- face (???). Anyway, he told me to stop reporting and that he would only let me leave the island if I promised I would. Naturally, I obliged but as soon as he teleported me back to Lumbridge I reported this mod who had been grilling me for a solid 20-30 minutes for I think harassment and bullying or something like that. Yep, I received a perma-ban on that account :)

[@trublood6410]

Sounds like dreamscape to me mate

[@112zombie]

@@trublood6410that's good :D

[@trublood6410]

@@112zombie thanks man I thought so too

[@mtcoiner7994]

Just got back into RS. I remember when I was about 10-12 yrs old (28 now) playing RS and nearly maxing my charictar. Ran into Zezima a couple of times. Cool to see the history.

[@syrenet]

I love the unregistered hypercam tag

[@Laflamablanca969]

Scar was the first macro program I used for RuneScape and it got me into programming

[@jannetirkkonen9733]

SCAR was made after autorune, standing for Shite Compared to AutoRune

[@TheMerschTwins]

Continue this series for sure! It’s always so interesting hearing about the earlier stages of the game

[@botvader]

I really enjoy these types of videos. I'd love to see a history on the Nexus client bot. I know for a while during RS2 it was the premiere botting script because of the way it communicated with the servers (injection-something I seem to recall). Plus the creators of that client were ultimately sued in court by Jagex and I'm sure is one of the largest court cases in the history of Jagex.

[@Anonymous-gy4lp]

That mischievous sounding background music is synonymous with your channel. Love it

[@infylos5035]

Love these videos. The history of cheating and behind the scenes info is fascinating.

[@BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMval]

I havent touched rs for years, still love these kinds of videos

[@InTheMindOfficial]

Dude I would ABSOLUTELY love to see more of these videos

[@proxik2]

Nice video, i expected to see something about Sbot 5.1 with leosleeper as well as it was a very common used bot.

[@JeztC]

Me: *Chopping trees to make money* Cheaters: *Using cheat clients to dupe rares* Fair game

[@cIeetz]

git gud

[@pogchampsz]

I was there when this happened! Received my first party hats from this dupe.

[@MightySheep]

Same except I was a poor noob who couldnt understand why everyone cared about party hats lol

[@MmeHyraelle]

I wish i was there when phats were still accessible but i was two years late or so.

[@ewill312]

That was incredibly interesting and highly entertaining. Thanks for the video Pugger!

[@gateway113]

Keep the series going! Can't wait to hear about scar scripts.

[@jonnymurphy9931]

Insane videos as always keep it up bro x

[@Przymiot]

As someone who has played in 2004 and onwards, I remember that the knowledge of Kaitnieks and the party hat dupe carried on for years.

[@NatteTostie]

Very NICE to see the history of Runescape too. Brings back good memories. And btw RESPECT for all the work you put in to the video.

[@CudiFanGrant]

Thanks for all that you do. We love you!

[@xsomewhattoxic]

Fun facts for you SirPugger. There was a PvP bot back in the day that would "auto catch" your opponent when they ran after the first 3 rounds of combat. It was heavily abused by rune tanks as well as D Baxe/ DLS pures. PvPers back in the day also used to use a bot that went by the name "ruinbot" due to its ability to show what your player ID was, which was useful in PvP due to having priority with attacking someone and getting the first hitsplat.

[@attehartikainen6170]

After all these years this video explains how i got a santa hat from a cabbage field mid summer.

[@Zenarchist]

Wow this brings back memories. I was involved with these communities pretty heavily right around the party hat duping situation, it was pretty crazy. It's nostalgic looking back on this stuff, fantastic recap on RS cheating history. It's the most comprehensive "documentary" style video on this stuff I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of them over the years. You covered things even I wasn't aware of at the time lol. And he was right - I learned to script back in those days to make bots, and all these years later those skills turned into a career trading the financial markets using my programming skills and making a very good living - all attributed to the fascination AutoRune and Java bots sparked back then

[@gabesdum]

Young P - For The Win Omg I went to the video and noticed I left a comment 12 years ago 👀

[@Kyle-ox9wp]

Love any vids involving RSC. Great work dude, you're always so thorough. Erik0gJoa known for glitches back in the day. Not sure he was into botting or if he's active anymore, but a good guy to reach out to for information.

[@Wizardboz]

Your videos are my favorite runescape videos! Thank you for the time you spend making them

[@toastitup3482]

The dude takes a couple years of coding, ruins a relatively new game, and then he thinks he's a god or something.

[@RepentInReprise]

Well, he certainly made history! Hard to say someone made "history" for most people in the world.

[@cIeetz]

he is a god tf you mean

[@UIM_Loki]

this was super interesting man, keep it up

[@wolfrig2000]

Impsoft and Rsbuddy were the premier bot client in the up to 2012 range you mentioned at the end. I'm fairly sure I have nomscreenshots but around 2009 was when I stopped botting, and it was the golden period, you could run as much as you wanted and unless you got mass reported or a pmod report you were totally fine

[@mattiasbunn8771]

Documenting game history is super interesting! I'd love to see more!

[@Zairin.]

your research and narration is so good. im glad i found your channel

[@alistairogilvy7696]

Always something interesting. Keep it up, Sir Pugger :)

[@PaPaPOVEY]

Another masterpiece as always. Thank you 🙏🏻 brings me back to the beginning of RuneScape. Ahh good good times. OneLove bro

[@Dirtyalpacka]

Some things people don’t notice. Your screen moves about 1+ or 1- every couple minutes. Runescape colors change EVERYTIME you log in. This includes bank signs on mini maps, door handles, colors on rugs, furnace colors. And I’m sure a lot more.

[@Xfirefire]

Love these vids, thanks Pugger

[@dgnz7628]

The script maker he refers to “Nick” is a NZ guy who developed one of the most popular bots in the 05 era - they bought out sleeping bags to try and combat it 😂

[@lennysmileyface]

He was from New Zealand? Our country is truly the greatest.

[@ghjklkop7868]

@@lennysmileyface sorry where?

[@Phizzuurp]

what do you mean bought out sleeping bags?

[@prodbadass1076]

@@Phizzuurphe meant they brought out sleeping bags, which was an item jagex put in with the fatigue system, and any skilling actions would use fatigue, once you got to 100% fatigue you no longer gained xp from anything, making it useful to keep a low level acc low level if one so chose. When you clicked on a sleeping bag, it would bring up a "captcha" which you would have to type out, and then you'd start regaining fatigue so you could continue skilling and gaining xp. You could also use any bed if you didnt't have a sleeping bag.

[@benjamintrnt7329]

Awesome video. Loving the history of botting theme.

[@alecwhite-cheshire2942]

Very interesting!! loads of things I never knew happened!! sick vid!

[@bertschi7]

Your videos are settled level of entertaining and informative too. thank you (:

[@AndyGamezoldschool]

Good video I remember this stuff and you covered it quite well and in detail.

[@Hycinex]

Thank you for taking me back to early 2000-2005 where Runescape classic was life, colored Heinz bottles of ketchup were the shit, and pogs/tazos from our chip packets were still a thing. The early days of Runescape will always have that special place in the heart... Botted or not lol 👀

[@ArtisticallyEligible]

RuneScape songs always hit me in the feels after all this time.. I love it

[@MrZezima3]

Bro this video brought me back to the OG runescape when fat wreck,tehnoob, zezima and all the OG players damn miss those days...tbh i feel like those bot creators actually made runescape what it is now hahaha you should make a video about fat wreck it was one of the moments everyone actually came together hahaha

[@CYellowan]

I remember being a young kid, and wanted to download some cheats in order to bot because i sucked that bad back then. And i downloaded some auto tools that really just homed in on colors but didn't do anything reliable at all. Some or all of those old tools really sucked, good memories.

[@tfbuffalo8550]

Great Content as always mr. Pugger!

[@Brotherfaris]

Man the nostalgia.. remember being in there. I was like 10 years old lol. My account ended up getting banned for over 2-3 years but i eventually got it back on runescape 2 and had rares on it.

[@absoluteclownworld]

I was wrongfully banned for item duping, I was like 11 or something and had no idea what was going on. I was good at buying low and selling high so I had bank. They probably just lumped me in with others that cheated. I cried and quit for over 3 years or something because of it.

[@Wipez]

Mod Mark's account being hijacked lol! And thaaat's why the runescape client constantly moves ever so slightly... Great video

[@kylord20001]

10:00 yes! please make more bot clients to continue the history :)

[@cjdabes]

Kaitnieks' exit speech sounds like something out of Max Stirner's writings.

[@joyfulkami]

Please keep this up, this brought back so many good memories. Lmao

[@kx250monster1023244]

im surprised you got your info as accurate as you did, good job. i remember all this shit happening i started playing in 2001 this kind of shit was what made the game so much more interesting back then than it is now a days lol p.s. fun fact: for a few years when you said Evilcowgod in game it came out as **********

[@ohnoitsu1]

That was a very entertaining vid, cheers

[@Buddy_Friend]

Forgot to give credit to Xx Jut Xx for info you took from his website.

[@vaxx5113]

Elaborate

[@HowdyFolksGaming]

For some reason I read the title as “chat client” and I was really excited to see what the heck that meant. Eh, still a great video 👍🏻

[@kylewashere699]

nice video definitely looking forward to more like this

[@wingsofdivorce7606]

Finaalllyyyyy a video, love the

[@alicehiess6508]

I’m definitely interested in seeing more videos like this one.

[@alexthunder9926]

Hey Pugger, as I speak I stand in the Sandstone mine in Menaphors, and I see a lot of guys with high level mining, prayer and crafting mining sandstone, they all wear seasonal crown, a yellow shirt and a cape with a red seal logo (forgot the name) I think they try to make Blessed Flasks

[@specializ20]

This was a great video. More please

[@Valid_OW]

More of this. Love it!

[@SKUNKIE]

Ahhh the nostalgia top video dude and very accurate

[@erickherrrington518]

You hit me with the nostalgia :'( lol I was 6 years old when my sister of 9 years of age made our first RS account. She sat in class thinking of a good password that would represent the sibling bond and love for games that we have. Legit still use it for some things. RIP RS Classic. I even have the same username back when Jagex told us RS classic would live and members would stay 5$ if you stayed a member. Keep up the history my guy. I'm lovin' it.

[@skullknight2008]

I remember this client! A ton of people used it to level magic because it sucked so hard to level back then, plus being dark and light spell books. I'm getting old.

[@chrisski7858]

Kaitnieks made scar as well. Used in in rs2. Was essentially a color clicker, worked really well depending on how well scripts were written.

[@TheCarpenterUnion]

I made a really effective mining macro a couple years ago. Somehow I was able to overcome the screen rotation (I must have been using color detection), don't remember, just remember it was really easy and I had randomly generated delays within ms ranges to combat detection. Took about 15 mins and I ran it for a total of like 12 hours across 5 days. No ban, I just questioned why I was doing it, and really the point of even playing.

[@deamon506]

Holy cow this is incredible

[@halfdead69]

Kaitnieks stuck around for a while into early RS2. After autorune died he created SCAR (Shite Compared (to) Auto Rune) which relied on capturing what was on screen, rather than intercepting packets. This made it harder to detect, but far less powerful. I coded a bunch of scripts for SCAR back in the late RSC early RS2 days for the RSCheatnet forum under the name Ohdearurdead. Kaitnieks was an admin on the forum and was actively developing SCAR for quite a while. Ultimately I lost interest when my account was banned after Jagex discovered they could detect the "Silent mouse" feature in SCAR. I never coded the scripts for the sake of "botting" in the traditional sense, coding for SCAR especially in RS2 was finicky. Jagex added tonnes of anti SCAR features like the map and gameworld slightly rotating on their own, or the space between text or colours of items changing slightly. I enjoyed the challenge of getting a script working for hours at a time without breaking, then once I did get a useful script I'd start working on the next one.

[@JDM]

Makes you wonder how many party hats made it through from classic, and how many are actually still around on RS3.

[@starfire09]

Just an FYI, you could make a bearded woman in RSC using the makeover mage and a bearded male character without AutoRune. Awesome content Puggers :)

[@Avene1]

Because of him, us latvians still dont have private server in rs3 :D

[@cloneskiller]

Epicbot was very popular in 2010 era. They actually would log into your account and steal your stuff but you got the xp. So they were also gold farmers as well.

[@Ohlawdi]

@6:05 is this a referance to that autorune song made by that one rapper who i forget

[@Ohlawdi]

nvm just saw it. christ memories

[@SlanderMonkey]

Dang, feels like watching a July the RS History Guy video!

[@manuclutch]

Your video is amazing good job 👍

[@johannesjohnsson4622]

I don´t even play runescape but i watch more or less every video sir pugger releases lol.

[@ambientocclusion]

Those party hats have changed a lot since this video

[@ghfghf7]

is there any relation to Freddy1990's Scar client? I think I recognize the truck icon

[@alfonzo9289]

Great vid mate!

[@NocturnalRS]

Wow I so forgot the term "Autoer".

[@Eruptor1000]

Fascinating how this is still felt in the game today... absolute legends..

[@John-jc4om]

Keep making vids and I see a golden gnome in your future

[@smithwesson391]

The most interesting vid of yours.. Thanks for this upload....

[@taylorleonard3835]

Absolutely loved this video!

[@burstitdown9440]

So what's up with bots near lumbridge farming big bones big frogs and if u get near them the game freezing and almost seems like a dns or ddos attacks