THE BOYS Season 4 ENDING EXPLAINED + What's Next!?

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[@CUZUMofficial]

Sure thing.

[@ytiralc]

Why would you push a "Both sides" news app sponsor when one side is absurdly focused on getting people enraged?

[@killbotone6210]

Homelander ain't dying.

[@karolkowalski3842]

I think Homelander gonna use Soldier Boy blood or whatever to slow his aging, waking him up wouldn't do much good he is total wild card.

[@rasheedfraser5680]

The irony of making us distrustful and paranoid of News outlets that have certain agendas to get us to subscribe to another News outlet thats paying you is as american as it gets

[@V4mpkins]

Grace Fumbled so hard when she was talking to ryan 🤦‍♂️ she had one job.

[@surfacegrey]

Yeah but I think out of desperation she was just gonna lay it all out there cause she knew Homelander would infiltrate the C.I.A if he got into office

[@hellboy.ww_]

L Ryan

[@GIGADEV690]

Ryan isn't lil baby he's so annoying

[@Afanof1]

​@@surfacegreytrue, but she taken it slow

[@raymond241]

Grace thought she could’ve trusted Ryan cuz yknow she took care of him for a bunch of years 🤷‍♂️

[@icewaterwitlemon]

How poetic would it be if Soldier Boy and Ryan teamed up to kill Homelander. His family, the one thing he desperately wanted, leads to his demise. The irony would be comical

[@CherryJuli]

They were kind of hinting at Ryan becoming like his father.

[@ObsidianKingSlade]

Mallory couldve done this, Obviously ryan isnt ready yet, but with soldier boys helo they could get it done easy. Mallory knew about soldierboy, idk why she pretends he isnt an option. Especially with the perfect offer of soldier boy getting to raise a son he always wanted, assuming butcher dies. Mallory was a clown this episode, Its sad to see her fall from grace, literally. Especially with her prior knowledge and experience.

[@mikailamod6831]

That would be the best ending. Soldier boy gets a redemption arc and raise a son, HL story comes full circle and Butcher keeps his promise to Becca

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Grandpa and grandson

[@nicolasfedel9067]

Soldier Boy raising Ryan would be the best thing ever.

[@CUZUMofficial]

Butcher is having his villain arc after witnessing his Ryan kill Grace. He has lost hope and accepted the imaginary Kessler in him. He was awakened, ready for chaos.

[@forensikarie]

Are we sure that Grace is dead? In The Boys, if someone doesn't die in the most horrible way, they're usually not dead lol

[@merlin5662]

i doubt it was butcher after grace was dead, to me it was very clear that keester was right according to butcher, but butcher was on the brink of death (literally). however when we seeing him after that, he is all cleaned up, his eyes aren't bloodshot, and now can use the supe powers. this isn't butchers villian arc, it is literally the death of butcher and now its kessler (as seen in the final shot with butcher in the car)

[@intothefrayyo]

Villain arc.. 😂 Yall say anything.. Butcher.. was never the Hero

[@mhm5443]

He's not a villain; he right. Did you read the comics? Supes are "bad product" no matter what.

[@Heisenburger42008]

@@intothefrayyo bro gets it

[@EdmundLoh]

Fans were like: A-Train is soooo gonna die end of Season 4! 💀 Neumann: well this is my stop, toodles 👋🏻😃

[@intothefrayyo]

*some fans

[@yoyomayne]

They killed her off in a dumb way tbh,bit should've been homelander to do it if anyone

[@greenytaddict]

A-Train ran so fast that he zoomed right past the final episode 😂

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@yoyomayne have you not watched The Boys from season one ??

[@yoyomayne]

@@Chuck_EL I hate when people ask that dumb question to others, yes I have tf

[@jerinmathew4726]

I'm not mad at Butcher for chosing to go tumor monster after having witnessed his wife's assault baby casually kill the one person alive who treated him as his own

[@theboard3476]

I agree. They play on Ryan’s child innocence way too much to explain his actions. But if he could literally kill the closest person to him other than his mother and with no remorse? Yeah idk about that. It is expected for children to get violent when upset/confused, but Ryan’s at an age where anyone would expect him to start to get a grip on it. Especially since he knows he’s a Supe. He’s just way too much of a liability at this point.

[@ToddToTheBlack]

I feel bad for Ryan, he's a victim, actually they all are. But it's gotten old with Ryan and his tantrums and "Not knowing his own strength" He's killed too many people, including his own mother. Time for Ryan to be taken out, but the problem is, he's supposed to be even stronger than homelander at some point

[@ron4293]

​@@ToddToTheBlack i really wonder how'd he fit as the story progress for the next season lmao

[@julianfan5794]

He looks like 13-15 years old, the whole “I can’t control myself or my feelings” excuse falls flat at that age and even more so further on….

[@ToddToTheBlack]

@@ron4293 Yeh, big question, is he going back to homelander, which more than likely will be the case, or will he just run off. Butcher will take him out, he's done with it all, so I'm guessing he'll just go back to Homelander, and Homelander will say, "See, told you so, they want to lock you into a cell" After Ryan tells Homelander what happened.

[@guythatlovespotato]

My Kimiko is speaking again but at what cost 😭

[@kristianhansen8746]

Lmao your comment fits so right with your profile picture

[@Bootygallery]

This was the best season omg this might just be better than breaking bad

[@deejones8552]

​@BlakeDime idk about that yet... But it was a great season for sure. The boys is a top tier show

[@Bootygallery]

​@deejones8552 you're right I'm getting little ahead of myself nirvana playing with supes all over the world making a move it's like crazy it's what we always wanted They did outstanding work I can't wait till the next season

[@ajlucky0076]

​@@Bootygallery I watched both and am a fan of both. The Boys is better

[@_neon-xeon_3966]

I love Butcher's new power. Really dig how drastically different it is from his "basically Homelander" power in Season 3. It looks like vile tendrils of darkness coming out of his black heart consumed by hate and anger. Its like he is literally getting his hatred off his chest.

[@neeeeeeeek9]

reminds me of eddie brock and venom

[@justrandomstuff9556]

But it would be also cool to see the old power and additionally if he gets flight - and then kicks homelanders butt

[@Pubert-hu1sy]

Kinda reminds me of wesker

[@silvanations]

looks nothing like eddie and venom 🤣 this shit looks weird af

[@andreadelacruz9361]

kinda like The Horror from Umbrella Academy

[@johnelmartagbago3764]

I love how S4 flipped the story of the comics: - Newman is the one who died, not the president - Superheroes were legally put in the position of power, instead of coup - Homelander actually got in his position at the end for the same reason, instead of just mindlessly taking over the White House.

[@rudrathakore]

Newman died in comics after becoming president here Newman died before becoming president

[@rgloria40]

This is where the story of the BOY commentary on satire diverts to real life since Trump's assassination attempt by the Democrats and Biden indicating his involvement to place a "Bullseye" on Trump (Biden statement on July 8, 2024). I hope the Boys writer can realign the satire story line to present and future prediction of the 2024 US elections. ...Or they can pull a Mandella Effect.

[@tusarbehera6359]

Extending the story only

[@dizzlegrizzle1919]

this season pretty much sucked. and nothing has changed in 4 seasons

[@GeekEntertainmentConsumer]

Lies ​@@dizzlegrizzle1919

[@Aymen23ii]

Episode was so full i didn't even notice Kimiko screaming

[@just2jett588]

i barley realized like the third scream in and it hit so hard after i realized

[@mistyydagoat]

same but it didn't hit hard💀​@@just2jett588

[@aquibmohd]

She said 'wow' , several times in the end .

[@lilduwap1]

@@aquibmohdhuh

[@aquibmohd]

@@lilduwap1 so in the end scene frenchie and kimiko were on the run with fake passports but they were ambushed by some unknown super heroes. One guy was really strong and had appeared in an episode siding with homelander, and another girl with wierd eyes, she had black pupil but red cornea . So the girl whispered something secret about Frenchie, so Frenchie agreed to go with him similarly like hughie in another scene. During this event the unknown guy threw kimiko on a cargo container hitting her head so hard that she regains her speech. Then she is seen shouting at Frenchie "wow , wow "

[@mostmost1]

Sista Sage set us all up. Had homelander on his ass crying and looking defeated. Brought his ass one ballon from dollar tree. He damn near apologized to her.

[@Chuck_EL]

Yup and don't forget when she was shot and acting different she slammed on that table and broke it in half while basically drunk She can definitely hold her own against him or any supe as we all know all of them have super strength and super durability

[@edgbarra]

​@@Chuck_ELI'm not sure if she's that strong. A bullet was strong enough to pierce her head, so she's not close to homelander's durability

[@mostmost1]

@@edgbarra not homelander level because only soldier boy is. The deep is way more durable than he seems.

[@ashley.taylor174]

😂😂😂 🎈

[@shanedbunting]

She Scary 😮 EDIT but is she Xanatos Scary?

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

Neuman death was brural thats a mortal kombat fatality if ive ever seem one.

[@fernandomaron87]

Web Weaver's death was also a MK fatality. Both incredibly shocking scenes.

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@fernandomaron87 and the guy the Deep killed

[@rotmgpumcake]

We need symbiote butcher as a mk fighter

[@epicmetod]

still don't understand why Butcher just straight killing her

[@christopherausenbaugh4704]

@@epicmetod After Ryan killing Grace. Butcher has given up ALL HOPE AND FAITH IN SUPES!🤯💯

[@claymathewselevator8121]

The Deep not knowing Ashley’s last name 😂

[@raymond241]

@@Strifler14barrett 😭

[@tweeks9896]

Barret ​@@Strifler14

[@galvezmeza]

Bro

[@fernandomaron87]

@@galvezmeza Bro...

[@canaan5337]

Lol 😂 what was funnier than that was black noir killing the other Ashley and sayin “I don’t know everyone is named Ashley around here.”

[@claymathewselevator8121]

RIP Other Ashley

[@Quirkywatch]

Wasn’t even on the list :(

[@archivedyls]

Bro...

[@SebastianEpicurus]

she was kinda badd🥵

[@dopeydoge]

​@@SebastianEpicurus🤨

[@lilpicklerick6869]

She was hot :(

[@keyproblems7590]

Biggest questions left. - where are a train and starlight hiding? - what did Kate say to Frenchie - what happened to Ashley? - where did Ryan go? - what’s homelander’s plan with Soldier Boy?

[@lobodesade6780]

She probably said "get in the van" on account of him getting in the van.

[@capitanodelfin4694]

Pretty sure cate said get in the van

[@Thechomp1eman]

In gen v her power is revealed to control people even control what they remember

[@raymond241]

I think Annie and Hughie had a plan if something that like happened, at the end hughie nodded at annie which prompted her to take off like that

[@serrahighsfinest]

She says get in the van.

[@t00sa]

Sure, it could be about power and control, but when Sage said how "fun" testing her genius was on the public, I really think it's just about entertainment for her.

[@Chuck_EL]

The look on Homelander's face was like "Holy shit she's good " after she said that was awesome

[@jughead18sp]

@@Chuck_EL Sage's plan rested on a lot of luck i wonder if it really was her plan or just took the credit when it went that way. Sage doesnt know about Butcher's tentacles. If it werent for Butcher coming in The Boys are dead. Without President Singer saying that phrase about Nueman, he wouldnt been impeached

[@grafja]

Nope, she's still just saying what he wants to hear.

[@jughead18sp]

@@t00sa Sage's plan relied too much on chance and luck. I wonder i she just took credit for what already was happening. If butcher didnt appear with his tenatcles theyre done. If president singer didnt say he wanted neuman out he would stay in office. Sage didnt know that.

[@lillol3245]

What‘s the first thing a superintelligent creature is doing after entering earth? Taking over the world. That‘s her plan, it‘s easy. Before this season she was a nothing, now she is the advisor of the most powerful man

[@julianneczarinagrepo2539]

It's so intense! I wanna cry seeing Kimiko finally spoke but for what?! This ending didn't just finish the season, IT FINISHED ME!

[@tonybalony1811]

😂😂😂 true!

[@TheCookieCook]

Ayo? 🤨

[@abirmawi2808]

Bro?

[@bingbong4074]

@@TheCookieCooklick it up you big brown bear

[@Heisenburger42008]

pause?

[@chaos1061]

Fucking diabolical season finale

[@AlejandroGonzalez-ks5ln]

I read that in butcher accent 😅

[@unais8531]

Foookin diObolicol🗿

[@itscalebgreen]

The best season finale of any of the seasons by far 🔥🔥. Not the best season though, season three is still the best season overall.

[@No-bi3pb]

sadly we're gonna have to wait another 2 years for the final season

[@stan4457]

​@@No-bi3pb so are we getting it after GTA VI?😢

[@xharan_]

Screen crush created a Nirvana x The Boys T-shirt and the boys season 4 ends with a nirvana song…it’s sort of like poetry it rhymes.

[@Vader-h911]

Or is it....... (Vsauce theme)

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Nice

[@shashankchitriv7953]

Well he saw all of season beforehand

[@L33Reacts]

He’s a paid op 😅

[@ryanjohnson7563]

I bought the nirvana shirt and nobody gets it lol 🤷

[@shivvWhore]

The shape shifter version of Annie was so charismatic, I kind of loved her. Erin did such a great job there!

[@Ironman-ko5vw]

What’s crazy is how strong Sam and Butcher are. Sam took punches from Kimiko just barely turning his head and butcher just tore through Numans durability.

[@michaelnelson8231]

Well Kimiko ain’t really that strong, by regular people yeah but nothing special for supes

[@shivvWhore]

@@michaelnelson8231 I think Kimiko's true power lies in the fact that she is really hard to kill due to her regen abilities, for that reason alone I would say she's a pretty strong supe

[@tiffanycooksey9468]

@@michaelnelson8231well Sam’s ability is super durability so, yeah not as strong or indestructible in the immediate sense but she does recover quickly and regenerates missing limbs and survive fatal wounds

[@itscalebgreen]

There is something else people aren’t talking about, butcher is strong as hell. To be able to rip Neuman in half Who was able to tm can shrug off Homelander laser beams and can take bullets to the head. Butcher’s powers are on another level now.

[@shivvWhore]

@@tiffanycooksey9468 Yeah but Sam has a huge disadvantage in his schizophrenia, can't exactly fight a battle if you're seeing puppets everywhere and the TV is talking to you

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

Sam absolutely bodying kimiko without any effort was amazing love that they thought back bald telchanesis girl and love sausage taking out mother milk felt personal.

[@AJD_77]

telekenesis*

[@TheCookieCook]

Love sausage was hilarious lmao I can’t believe he did that to M.M

[@Chingloves]

I thought he was going to splooge on MM again, for old times sake

[@YkMarb]

@@AJD_77Cindy

[@Thechomp1eman]

Honestly I thought love sausage would of lost his power after being in the house solider boy destroyed.

[@michaelnelson8231]

That flight scene had to be the coolest thing Starlight ever did

[@joshualogan84]

Important note: Homelander is aging and is freaked out by it, the series ends with him looking at his father who is visibly the same age, if not younger in appearance. This could factor in maybe something like blood transfusions to make homelander look younger.

[@user-sg2es3jo6i]

i don't think they will use soldier boy for this, but i think the writers will use him to give homelander some kind of power up, he is very outmatched by now by season 3 he could feasible be defeated by 3 characters 1v1, in the 5 ryan will probably get there too, so he needs a power up for the final confrontation to have any meaning

[@obsidianwarrior5580]

​@@user-sg2es3jo6iPlus when they start filming Ryan's actor will be nearly 18 so he'll be a lot stronger.

[@Yamas258]

@@obsidianwarrior5580I just saw a recent pic of him and he looks hella older already

[@Bornagainvillain]

@@joshualogan84 isn’t Anthony Starr older than Jensen?

[@jambutty4530]

This isn't an important note, it doesn't even make sense

[@Kanda-kun-q5c]

I was so happy when Starlight flew away like Superman. Starlight is one of the characters that I like. I wanted her to get strong, and do more than just light up her eyes and I am happy that she will be strong in season 5. She was good this season too with throwing hands.

[@greenytaddict]

It would be crazy if she goes super Nova next season.

[@mzk4193]

Honestly season 4 got better over time, i am so glad the colin Frenchie thing stopped, not because Frenchie is bi and all of that, but because it came out of nowhere. The final episode was amazing, saved the season, the rest of the episodes from decent to mediocre Season 4 1-7 5/10 Season 4 8 10/10

[@Thechomp1eman]

I personally think s2 showed frenchie was bi and in a throuple relationship but overall it seemed like they had to give frenchie something to do with this season that tied into everyone else's arc and confronting their past given the chance to change. his was sadly the least thought out story.

[@kamui8362]

Stop yapping

[@Hatedlikedavid]

This episode might be the best episode ever

[@anieltavares7991]

Its not because it comes out of nowhere that it’s writ I’m just if it is convenient for a plot point in an underdeveloped matter which in this case isn’t

[@cutiepie8887]

100% agree with this

[@CherryJuli]

I didn’t know Chance Perdomo passed away. That’s absolutely tragic. He was so young.

[@ToddToTheBlack]

Yeh, motorcycle accident. They'll have to replace him for the next gen v Although i heard they may not recast him

[@user-Songoku48]

​@@ToddToTheBlack Eric kripke confirmed that there not going to replace His character he's Stated that his character will most likely be Killed off. As to pay respects to Chance so yeah

[@MrVictor1227]

How?

[@dinorex3464]

​@@MrVictor1227 Motorcycle accident.

[@mannases]

​@@user-Songoku48 I think the story also mentioned it at one point the magnet guy 's dad got like a hereditary disease. They prolly going for that route not recasting him

[@dirt_in_your_eye]

butcher vs soldier boy, ryan and homelander would go crazy

[@stanleypo2871]

My guess: Butcher will kill homelander and Ryan will kill Butcher

[@VeerMatharu-fe6ys]

After learning what homelander did to beca, he'd probably join Soldier Boy to take down homelander

[@hectorramirez5227]

@@VeerMatharu-fe6yssolider doesn’t like butcher after what happened

[@chrissuponcic6277]

Hl has to keep the sb thing kept quiet otherwise he's signing his own death warrant. It would be cool if the new president makes sb his personal secret service agent, he's literally a walking shield and ultimate deterrent against all sups

[@dirt_in_your_eye]

@hectorramirez5227 sb may be either mind controlled by Kate (I'd say this is unlikely cuz he resisted mindstorm) or it will be butcher and ryan vs homelander vs butcher

[@harsha8964]

I think killing off Homelander is not good enough, in the finale if they make him lose his superpowers and let him stand trial for his crimes it will be poetic

[@Plutonian187]

It’s possible die to soldier boys powers

[@christopherausenbaugh4704]

I feel you came up with the best ending, if it happens.🤯 I WILL Remember!😅THAT WILL BE EPIC!😮🎉😊🤜🤛💯

[@tomiperityjr8271]

After all the gore and rough twists and turns that would be the least satisfying ending to the series.

[@RCjunior23]

What if Homelander is secretly drugged with the same drugs that Firecracker is taking? That way he becomes sick and humiliated by growing big mommy milkers

[@christopherausenbaugh4704]

@@RCjunior23 omg!🤯 That would be epic and weird AF!🤯😂

[@francescozenocchini4428]

I really like the idea of Starlight leading a group of good faith supes (A-Train, Marie, Little Cricket etc.) against Homelander

[@theformerkaiser9391]

Kimiko screaming “No!” when they were taking Frenchie away was heartbreaking

[@_neon-xeon_3966]

I think we all love Neuman, and its sad for her to die, but I guess she needed to go Literally this whole season is set up to be the "kill Victoria Neuman" season, I remember one of the last lines in S3 was "that b*tch has to go" and yeah, she took alot of the story ever since Season 2, she's great but Homelander needs to be the sole villain in Season 5 and it was time for her part of the story to wrap up

[@landongray8687]

I was happy she died lmao, it almost felt like after the 7th episode literally everyone was joining the boys side,a train,sage, neuman, im happy it didn’t end like that

[@esks987]

@@landongray8687 if butcher didn't kill neuman and he agreed to team up everything would change

[@Diesnaciefc]

@@landongray8687she was hot af tho

[@ToddToTheBlack]

Neuman definitely is no saint....But once homelander threatened her kid, all bets were off, i was hoping she'd continue, but butcher knows how powerful she is, and wasn't going to take any chances anymore. I can't wait to see what Ashlee's powers are, and it looks like we may finally have a full power Starlight in season 5 She was struggling to fly at the beginning of the season, could barely float, now she took off flying as powerful as Homelander does.

[@lyle9793]

@@ToddToTheBlackyeah I’m really excited to see what they do with Starlight now and I’m buzzed she’s powered up again, what is the endgame for this though? I’d love it if she was the one to have a final superpowered showdown with homelander but it looks like they’re more going in that direction with butcher or Ryan

[@mikaela.]

At least we have GenV whilst we await for season 5!!

[@tonybalony1811]

I need Gen V in my VEINS.

[@sadrootbeer]

Damn 2 years from now too. Atleast it's a really high quality show.

[@Pubert-hu1sy]

Is gen v worth watching?

[@Ninjatesticles69]

​@@Pubert-hu1sy Yes, it gets better each episode

[@raymond241]

Wonder how they’re gonna change the story now that Chance perdomo is gone

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

The finale really made the whole season worth it can't wait for season 5.

[@TheSaintBigFoot]

3 years probably

[@kfcfloppa2620]

2 years

[@MrErik-yt5gi]

The last episode was straight projection for what the democrats had planned in reality. It’s hard to ignore all the similarities and the release date. Like they planned to kill the president and portray the same exact thing in the boys. Guess who’s a libtard ? Eric kripke I’m honestly kinda concerned. I loved the episode but that was a little to close to reality like specific details typa thing. I don’t believe in coincidences anymore. Not big ones. Liittle coincidences ok… big ones. Kinda hard to ignore

[@Phosfit]

I LOVED KIMIKO WAVING TO FRENCHIE SHE IS SO CUTEEE

[@boop2908]

I love that they snuck "Eejit" in. It's such a fun little insult you don't hear outside Ireland or Scotland.

[@BREAKocean]

It's a reference to supernatural where the actor also named Robert singer said it many times. There's even a compilation of it on yt that's like 3 minutes long

[@lyle9793]

Wait when was this? I’m Scottish and missed it lol

[@user-sg2es3jo6i]

@@lyle9793 said by the president when he was playing minigolf

[@Fadezz]

Feckin eejit

[@canaan5337]

It’s something Bobby Singer said constantly on supernatural.

[@Phosfit]

“You’re a writer, you don’t get paid shit” - The Deep 🤣 I truly do hope Amazon is paying these writers handsomely. NOOOO ASHLEYYYY

[@jillg9108]

I enjoyed the entire season. Since meeting Sage, I always felt that Homelander offered her the opportunity to actualize her hypotheses. I do not think this is necessarily a grab for power, but a scientist proving the truth of their theories. The high is being right.

[@mistermorphescarnoe2898]

Yep, she just wanted to see if she could do it, but never stopped to think if she should - the center of discussion for the ethics and morals of scientific discovery. Its really fucked up

[@PxpOnAux]

Heart Shaped Box being the song to end out the season was too perfect

[@breezyphontain9686]

I think sage was being 100% honest when she said "just to see if i could" she literally joined homelander outta boredom and in 8 episodes went from reading books in a dungy apartment to upending all of democracy. Shits wild

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

They wouldn't tease Soldier Boy like that with no payoff in the near future, he's definitely coming back in season 5.

[@adityasabnani4941]

But the main question Is Why would homelander wake him up , he is his father but after season 3 finale he well knows that soldier boy wakes up he is fight him , even if he doesn't and convinces him to go against butcher , soldier boy isn't the type to just listen and work for homelander or even team up with him unless he becomes the one in control

[@taranrishith]

How is butcher going to survive that long? The boys got nobody on their side now except for maeve and starlight

[@user-sg2es3jo6i]

@@adityasabnani4941 homelander will use soldierboy anything (blood, dna, dunno) to enhance his powers he is outmatched by now, writers will have to give him a powerup for the finale to hold

[@mon_nobi]

@@user-sg2es3jo6i he doesn't need power up, he still hasn't been beaten physically not even by SB so no he doesn't need a power up for the finale to work. He will probably use SB as a statue that he talks to who doesn't talk back, probably imagining him getting fatherly advice despite the fact that he is a frozen stiff. But yeah may also use his dna for rejuvenation.

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

@@adityasabnani4941 Homelander doesn't necessarily have to be the one who wakes him up. If the current POTUS knows Soldier Boy is in that facility, then i'm willing to wager that Bob Singer knows about it too.

[@sadrootbeer]

Damn it was an amazing season finale and i gotta hand it to you guys too. You all made amazing connections that I hadn't even considered in such a short time frame shortly after the episode came out. 10/10s all around.

[@PrincessTemi-r5w]

It was perfect perfect down to the last minute detail😂😂😂

[@Minkyminky09]

I wanna see Maeve and Soldier Boy back for season 5 !!

[@bitduelist]

Its 1. Homelander Starlight 2. Sage Marie 3. Deep Jordan 4. Noir vs Cricket 5. Firecracker Kimiko 6. Sam A-Train 7. Cate Butcher with the wild card Ryan and a very special guest - Soldier Boy

[@menon7010]

It all of them vs butcher

[@Shiftyy236]

have to add in the telekinesis supe to homelander’s side

[@christopherjohnson-greer8657]

I think it’d be Cricket vs Sam, Marie vs Cate, A-Train vs Sage, Starlight vs Deep, Jordan vs Noir, Firecracker vs Kimiko, then Butcher and Ryan vs Homelander and maybe Soldier Boy

[@Chuck_EL]

Ashley will be a boys member too I'm assuming she's gonna be a Leader/She Hulk parody since the scene of her head bubbling and growing is similar to the Leader's in the incredible hulk Plus her powers in the comics is just like the Leader's

[@christopherjohnson-greer8657]

@@Chuck_EL I can see her being a she hulk parody, and after seeing other comments and thinking about it, Butcher may have to fight Homelander, Ryan, and Soldier Boy. At least in the beginning

[@leftistdegeneratejs]

I’m gonna be honest I really don’t like how sage is written, her super intelligence isn’t written like she’s super smart but rather like she could see the future, like how did she know any of these very specific things were going to happen, like the boys killing nueman.

[@ninjaeddy1717]

My take is that she didn’t know any of it would happen, she just acts like she knew.

[@mon_nobi]

Of course she knew, it makes sense that Neumann would be a defiant patsy and that the Boys would get caught on camera conspiring with Singer to kill Nuemann, so it makes sense that all of the ending outcome was according to her plans. My only issue is I wish they made it more clear whether or not it was also part of her plan to get shot by MM. Cuz I feel like when she's dumb she's not aware or in control but otherwise she was always aware and in control.

[@diany3061]

I mean, is very difficult to write a super intelligent character when you are limited to your own intelligence, i can understand why she was poorly executed tbh

[@ashley.taylor174]

Here we go. There’s always a hater. 🙄

[@axeyaxe938]

Yeah, sometimes a super intelligent character is written as if intelligence is a superpower (pardon the irony). Sherlock Holmes was originally a very intelligent consulting detective who used deduction and experimentation to figure out the mystery, but later renditions turn him into basically a clairvoyant. It's lazy writing by dumb people who perceive intelligence as a natural talent or a gift, rather than something that requires years and years of hard work.

[@AntonioLHan]

A new age is about to begin, can't wait

[@siwonton284]

I think there might be something to be said about how the Ved up parasite seemed to acknowledge Kimiko and Starlight, but did not attack them. Seems maybe Butcher is fighting the kill all supes mentality that Kessler is bringing. He'll probably fail resisting him though in season 5, and go scorched earth. Cannot wait for the last season. I was little upset with how they were handling Hughie getting sexually assaulted literally every other episode but I think Annie's reaction is somewhat realistic. Initial shock and being upset, and then literally two scenes later she's like 'yeah I shouldn't be upset at him how could he have known.'

[@anonymususer1728]

@siwonton284 "I think Annie's reaction is somewhat realistic. Initial shock and being upset, and then literally two scenes later she's like 'yeah I shouldn't be upset at him how could he have known.' No, Annie's reaction is stupid. Why would you be mad he proposed to a shapeshifter ? How was he supposed to know ? For all intents and purposes, he thought that was the real Annie.

[@jannikf2504]

this is one of the best written shows in recent years

[@ThePermanentVirgin]

yeah, this and teletubbies

[@gluesnifferr]

I think starlight can harness energy directly from the sun now, her powers seem to get buffed every season

[@aoiyue-j2t]

Sage's performance in the series was absolutely captivating, leaving me in complete awe.hats off!

[@intothefrayyo]

🫥

[@mostmost1]

She just wanted a challenge. Damn

[@AyeAyeRonG361]

Can you imagine Homelander dies off some breast milk LMFAOOOOOOOO

[@brycedamuth9079]

Can't help but think Sage's cancer cure will come into play with Butcher's cancer.

[@guythatlovespotato]

Homelander and Soldier Boy are similar. They seek validation to their father, Soldier Boy's origin and why he became supe is because he wants the attention of his father, he wants his father to be proud of him, but his father is not happy cos he "cheated" his way through it by being a supe.

[@mhm5443]

Soldier Boy will be the TV version of Black Noir/Homelander from the comics.

[@nerddoctor8505]

Except soldier Boy much more mentally tougher and resilient than HL

[@fvalles]

The cut off to J Jonah Jameson laughing cracked me up 😂

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

Anyone ever notice the irony of the fact that the first supe Hughie killed had to be naked to use his powers and Hughie's powers also require him to be naked?

[@spokeen6249]

You're a season behind

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

@@spokeen6249 Nope. Pay attention to the video you're commenting on.

[@celticwolff5429]

@17:40 Ashley thought she was "playing with" a willing WebWeaver. She even stopped when "WebWeaver said stop. She didn't do anything wrong. We don't know if she ever found out the truth.

[@dyankellett8444]

She's sick in the head man. She's smiling ear to ear when homelander tells the deep to do what he made starlight do to himself. And she got her ex killed because he dumped her (he's an awful human too). Not to mention all the things she's witnessed from her time as CEO and saying nothing .... Daredevil wannabe having his ears burst, the coverups of sexual assaults against starlight...etc. Then in the final episode she writes of an execution list for her own coworkers and doesn't warn anyone

[@hellboy.ww_]

Need S5 asap

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

I was so mad they didn't show what Ashley's powers were - BUT I have a suspicion that it is going to turn her into some kind of mutant monster freak.

[@Plutonian187]

My guess? Super intelligence to rival sage Hair control powers (like mk sindel) She-hulk

[@reddragon6490]

I'm thinking she'll turn into something like doomsday

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

@@reddragon6490 That would be awesome!

[@givemeliberty700]

I thought the same thing something monstrous

[@givemeliberty700]

Can't wait to see what her powers are I like Ashley lol

[@thedennisguy2221]

Holy smokes I just realized the rabbit that butcher let go in the basement of Stan Edgar foreshadowed what would happen to him (with the tentacled rabbit)

[@Euro-GaNationalist-hv1on]

Butcher’s new power really encapsulates his personality

[@KoopaKoot]

No mention of Ashley? Not that Ashley, the other Ashley!

[@thematthewsextonshow]

I was hoping it was Ashley they were walking in on and not Soldier Boy.

[@Sentinel_White]

Everybody is named Ashley

[@Ninjatesticles69]

​@@Sentinel_White bro

[@Sentinel_White]

@@Ninjatesticles69 bro

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@thematthewsextonshow in the comics she was a Leader type of supe

[@manfromwuhan5876]

Minute of silence for the manbabies that wanted A-train to die

[@guythatlovespotato]

I like him but if hes gonna die it gotta be in final season.

[@mikailamod6831]

He was the best part of Season 4

[@MohsanPeerzada]

A-train chilling somewhere

[@user-lw3rw4ol7n]

I completely forgot about him while watching this episode

[@lyle9793]

Did people really WANT him to die or just expect him to? I’ve been thinking he’s seconds from being put down by homelander for seasons now but I’m glad him and The Deep have made it this far, they feel so important to the essence of the show if maybe not the narrative

[@NightWalkerx]

There are point that everyone forgot about maybe homelander was just looking at soldier boy because he is ageing and SB was not

[@jackrose7537]

Yes I think it could be that too but he cried too but I don't think your opinion too

[@CherryJuli]

He wasn’t aging because he was basically put in cryo sleep

[@jackrose7537]

@@CherryJuli can you explain abt russian torture how he wasn't ageing

[@Poppyblender]

​@@CherryJuli bro was born in the 40s and he still looked the way he did in the 1980s so that argument doesnt work at all😊

[@YourFuneralBit]

@@PoppyblenderThen how was he documented that he fought in world war 2 at the very youngest he would be born in the 1920s so at the youngest he would be 60 by the time he gets captured

[@johnbfilmz8092]

It’s also funny how firecracker is a member of the 7 and we went 8 episodes without seeing her use her powers😂 like yeah she snaps her fingers a couple times but what can she even do😂

[@Plutonian187]

Just create sparks😂 other than that Super human strength Super healing

[@kensecrestla]

She can produce special Supe Vitamin milk?

[@breezyphontain9686]

I love how they set up butchers strength, from the rabbit in the woods to this. I always thought nueman would die, but that it would come from the girl in gen v who also has blood powers. When they showed how durable nueman was from the bullet to homelanders eye blast, it made the reveal of butcher taking her out easily that much more bad ass.

[@ericlmartin5123]

The last line of the episode is the RNC current slogan: “Make America Safer Again.” Crazy lol

[@NARNONDU]

I was thinking the same thing😂😂😂

[@MorokLeviathan]

This is unlikely to be explored, but I wonder how other countries in The Boys' universe reacted to the USA's sudden turn with their Supes. Having Supes as celebrities is one thing, them becoming part of their government and armed forces is another. Would NATO and Europe be affected with this sudden change in the US? What about Russia and China, as well as other major countries like India, Japan, Brazil, etc. Would nukes become more important to deter the Supes? Russia and the USSR had been experimenting on Soldier Boy for decades. And Stan mentioned back in Season 2 Episode 1 how they'd need a codename for Compound V so that China doesn't find out. With how Compound V was leaked back in Season 2, I wouldn't be surprised if other major countries, somehow, covertly, managed to get their hands on Compound V at some point during Seasons 2-4, and are keeping this secret until they manage to reproduce this themselves, or are simply waiting for the right time to reveal this as a deterrent.

[@Jdmenendez22]

Ironically most American commentaries have the same issue of thinking they're the only country on earth. You'd think more would criticize that but I've seen Monument Mythos. I'm not hoping for other countries being mentioned

[@Tonylaces]

I read somewhere that some spin-off series are being considered, where supes are in other countries. Maybe, after what happened at the end of this season, they will talk more about what other countries are saying about the US with supes in charge!

[@user-sg2es3jo6i]

i think other countries dont have many supes V is made by vought and used in american soil, all international supes we saw in the show were also made by vought/homelander to function as terrorists, it's fair to assume usa constrols 99.9% of the supes

[@Familiop]

I think that's the reason of why they are making THE BOYS mexico, probably to explore the F up world of the boys after homelander takes the president.

[@canaan5337]

The Russians had soldier boy since the 80s. I’m sure they’ve been trying to figure out how to make compound V for the past 40 years.

[@km_1911]

One correction I wanted to point out. Ashley didn’t knowingly do that to Hughie. They thought it was Web Weaver, who would have otherwise fully consented to what they were doing. Ashley is way closer to being good than not imo.

[@mon_nobi]

She's actually been one of my favs this season, she is terrible but only because she's a terrified person who happened to girl boss her way into a tough spot at one of the worst places to work ever. She acts like a shallow mean obsequious person with crazy dominatrix kinks but her true nature is that she fires people she likes to keep them safe, hides evidence in order to protect people, and is generally reacting like any sane person would in an insane environment.

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

What's up with Firecracker's sickness? I feel like it's *not* the drugs, but a hint of something more sinister to come.

[@ProverbialTurtle]

Pregnant with Homelanders baby?

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

It is the drugs. She told Homelander that there were side effects.

[@ConfusedTraveler555]

I think Homelander will probably face some issues too , as he is drinking that milk which is drug laden!

[@ZachariahWiedeman]

@@decepticonxhunter4850 It seemed like the writers were hinting at more. It's a weird thing to bring up last minute when we know she's been using them for multiple episodes now. Chekov's gun: You don't highlight Firecracker's illness unless you're going to do something important with it. Having her get humiliated and then fight at 75%, but still just fine isn't doing something important with it.

[@spokeen6249]

I think the syringe starlight stabbed her with had traces of the virus from the lab

[@lacrartezorok4975]

1) You forget that in the comic Butcher goes full villain and makes Hughie kill him. I think that's an appropriate finale for the series. 2) Ryan arc reminds me a lot at the one of Jack from Supernatural (a show created by Eric Kripke, The Boys' show runner). He was the son of Lucifer (and played by the same actor who played Rufus in Generation V) but always preferred being with the Winchesters. After accidentally killing Mary Winchester, God (yes, that one) intended that Dean (Jensen Ackles character) killed him in vengeance, but he refused, and in the end Jack was the one who defeated God, took his power and his place as an actually empathetic ruler of all creation.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Black Noir and The Deep scenes were my favorite

[@antwanelynch87]

Ashley, said its so easy to become a Monster here, So i think the Compound V is gonna mutate her appearance as a Monster type look with Monster Characteristics, and Power-Set...

[@BloodDripss]

season 4 was some of the best television ive ever seen in my entire life. truly incredible stuff. left me totally speachless by the end. great recap!

[@Rekk3x]

A great ending would be Butcher loses the powers and Cancer but the Virus isn’t strong enough to kill Hollander but instead make him Human

[@NighDarke]

I'm really curious to see what Ashley's power is going to be. She has always felt so powerless and helpless so it's probably gonna be pretty wild.

[@Djmcnelson]

This finale was peak for the boys,homelander finally snapped and is calling the shots,shapeshifter is dead,ASHLEY TOOK COMPOUND V,noir and the deep duo,ryan killing grace,evil butcher finally in control AND KILLED NEUMAN,sister sage is back,sam and katie jump kimiko then SHE FINALLY TALKED and frenchie GETS KIDNAPPED,love sauasage whacking mm with his you know what,the bald psychic/telekinesis girl,That part where starlight activates her powers and flys off into the sky near the end was sooo badass,THEN SOILDER BOY AT THE END,This was perfect writing what a way to end a season,I knew A-train would survive but noone believed me,WHAT A SEASON FINALE STRAIGHT 🔥🔥FR 😂😂👏🏾.

[@xobalt_60]

Fr I've from S01 I've been indifferent about the Starlight character. But after this season finale I'm seriously rooting for her. And Kim Kimiko getting her voice back, I screamed.

[@shiv.singh16]

Right bro perfect writing to end a season🔥. Season 5 would be insane🔥

[@kanyenorth2605]

I wouldn't perfect at all but it is good

[@greenytaddict]

A-Train zoomed his ass right out of the final episode.

[@Brook11223]

The Wayword Son ending Supernatural style. Kimiko says her first words. The Gen V storyline season 2 has happened in The Boys as the new members are going full force with following Homelanders vision for a new America.

[@rauf4436]

You know, I have a theory about Ashley's powers. It probably won't be some kind of superpower or mutation, as far as I'm concerned it could be high intelligence. Introducing a persona like Sage is cheating, and how do you beat a persona like that? That's right, another cheater character. Ashley I think is perfect for this role, because before they have already had snacks with Sage and this accumulated hatred 100% will force against Sage in the battle of intellects. It's just absurd really, what we saw was Sage's plan, then it makes more sense to pit an equally intelligent character against her in season 5.

[@MrGriff305-j7s]

Starlight flying away that fast was amazing.. Gave me some hope.

[@gbuie]

The ending with y’all’s nirvana shirt is poetic af

[@jloiben12]

When you are the smartest person in the world, you want to do things just to see if you can. What’s the point of being that smart if you can’t do the hard stuff

[@hymanroth560]

11:32 to me it looked like Kessler was Butcher’s reflection stating that Kessler’s in control not in the back seat like Butcher was in control.

[@shalinalewis2957]

Right, that's what I inferred.

[@enPassantWarrior9047]

its easy kessler is like hulk or venom \

[@hymanroth560]

@@enPassantWarrior9047 na, it’d be more like fight club. & your missing the point, I’m saying Kessler was not in the back seat, he was in the FRONT seat

[@ErrorXer]

I feel like Butcher will use the virus in an event similar to Herogasm. Like some interaction of Herogasm will appear in season 5 too (a more elaborate version of what was seen in season 2).

[@SiddhantRajDhurvey]

If you think it's going to be a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.

[@Max-jz2hf]

I wonder how in control of the supercancer Butcher is. Even in full Kessler mode he still spared Kimiko, Annie and Zoe

[@christopherlee8989]

Ending song should have been man who sold the world

[@MohsanPeerzada]

Btw hughie voices Superman

[@xobalt_60]

And Soldier Boy voices Batman.

[@bryanheilman4376]

That's how you do a finale! Loved it! Can't wait for season 5!

[@big.dinkledorf]

the ending of this episode with nirvana in the back was super awesome

[@pharma2546]

A train unlike MM is a rea ninja 😂 he was outta the country with the quickness 😅

[@Lockcraft99gaming]

Homelander has gone off the rails 😂

[@Axecon1]

How did Zoey end up at Red River? I'm surprised Edgar didn't pull some strings to save her unless that card is being saved for season 5.

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Zoe is an orphan, and that's where orphaned supes usually end up. Stan can't get her out because he's supposed to be laying low. His connections disappeared when he lost the CEO position.

[@AmyKaylasVegas]

Her Dad is alive w one leg i thought?​@@decepticonxhunter4850

[@spokeen6249]

Pull some strings with what? He's a fugitive

[@1Dark.Paradise.Lost1]

​@decepticonxhunter4850 Her dad should be alive because when he escaped, he reconnected with her mom.

[@dgotcookies]

The Annie and Maeve forming a 7 to fight homelander and everyone theory is dope ngl

[@jesse_cole]

Why does this dude vlog in a collared blur shirt, like he’s a floor salesman at Best Buy?

[@givemeliberty700]

It's a throwback to blockbuster and how the employees dressed there

[@MP422ownz]

Blockbuster video duh.....

[@phoenix2x]

I think it could play out that near the end of the show Homelander kills Soldier Boy for challenging him and Ryan witnessing his biological father kill his own father will be the catalyst that makes him either switch sides and help The Boys or try to just kill Homelander himself. "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" sort of thing.

[@chrissuponcic6277]

The only problem is hl is getting weaker and older at a rapid rate. If younger stronger hl couldn't take sb how could this hl kill him?

[@locke3862]

Homelander lasered her and it did nothing. She obviously tried to pop him and it did nothing. Butcher ripped her in half before she could do a thing.

[@chrissuponcic6277]

Hl wasn't trying to hurt her with his lasers just prove she was a sup

[@sandhyachayal5250]

I Loved how the Vought soldiers looked like Superman Dark timeline soldiers from Justice League cool asf ngl

[@jamaldaniels5542]

One thing you mentioned: that video of the flight going down HAS to come out at some point. You are so right- they have teased it, ever since we (as the audience) first watched it actually happen, and it would be poetic Justice for it to be broadcast for EVERYONE to see! 👀 I can’t wait for Season 5! 🙌🏾

[@antynomity]

I wish the build up didnt take an entire season.