The Boys: Season 4 - The Death of Media Literacy & The Rise of Review Bombing | REVIEW/RANT

[@JeannesMovieChats]

Hi friends! It's time to discuss the death of media literacy yaaaayy! 👏👏👏 And what better occasion than for my review of Season 4 of The Boys?! Psst, if you want to skip the lecture, the review starts at 22:00 😉

[@earnthis1]

It took some people 4 seasons to FINALLY get the joke! lololol Jokes on them.

[@JeannesMovieChats]

No literally! 😭😭😂

[@moustik31]

And has always been. I only watched the 1st season but it was made crystal clear from the beginning that Homelander and cie arent "heroes", they are "superpowered"! Homelander, the Deep, A-Train, etc. in particular might "look the part" but they are pretty average to mediocre people with average to mediocre human abilities and skills, so that need to be told what to do and when to do it. The only reason, they accidentally found themselves at the top of the hierarchy is bec. the system is seriously biaised in their favour. No wonder cons. dudebros identified with them! 😉

[@venod3134]

Yeah but that's definitely NOT what the show is about. Liberals are getting cooked in this show as well, and in real life.

[@silasbeacom2930]

But at the same time how do you make almost an hour long video doing the very thing you are criticizing others of and not realize it?

[@The5armdamput33]

They see Homelander laser an airplane in half in episode one and think "That's my hero!"

[@McClarkson1988]

I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature makes them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their child-rearing practices and skills mixed with their unparalleled work ethic are second to none. Their rational and logical thought toward circumstances coupled with their innate capability to de-escalate situations are to be envied and coveted. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real estate values are fueled by the mix of the black communities in an area due to the caring and respectful nature of these communities, which are an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self-improvement, hard work, and self-reliance nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.

[@cabezadetermo248]

LMAO

[@literaltiffy1699]

Totally obvious from the start! I'm late to the party, and I just Finished all 4 seasons recently. I was taken aback when I started hearing the reviews, and I honestly couldn't figure out why season 4 was the breaking point. It was always right there. Like you said, it also spends a lot of time in the middle, pointing out the ridiculousness of both sides.

[@TonyTheFriendlyMovieFan]

You’re spot on. For The Acolyte show, even though I haven’t seen it and have been hearing mixed to negative things about it, I can see that most (not all) of these so-called “reviewers” (specifically the anti-woke grifters like The Critical Drinker) don’t even bother trying to give it a fair shake; it’s just bad because it’s Kathleen Kennedy, because of the sheer existence (not related to their characterization or themes) of diverse actors in the show. Hell, The Critical Drinker made a video about how The Boys “fell off” and became a bad show that only plays it SAFE (how the fuck is The Boys season 3&4 playing safe?) without even watching it and just based his points on Rotten Tomatoes audience reviews! These men are destroying media literacy, and I’m glad Drinker’s horrendous Barbie video made me realize how utterly bigoted, incompetent and lazy they are. For The Boys S4, it’s definitely the weakest season of the bunch, but it is still very good. It’s primarily character-driven and there are some questionable creative decisions, but I overall still enjoyed it.

[@dieu5041]

I felt that a lot of people hated the fact that the smartest person in the world was a black woman. Just look at the response to Tek Knight compared to Sage.

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

And sage is literally helping homelander and they still call her woke

[@JeannesMovieChats]

Yep! Even though she’s actually a horrible person who’s just as complex as the rest of the characters, they still screamed woke lol

[@TheGreatJ]

You have this super backwards 3:28 Most people didn't think homelander was the good guy... The problem was that people didnt realize that homelander represented right wing trumpish ideology until season 4 where it was blatantly thrown in the audiences face

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

No some people actually stanned him I’ve seen the comments lol

[@Agee1]

"The problem was that people didnt realize that homelander represented right wing trumpish ideology until season 4 where it was blatantly thrown in the audiences face" Bruv, if you and other people took up to 4 season to realise this, you might be stupid

[@TheGreatJ]

@@Agee1 Bruv if you think I'm one of those people you might be more dumb than the Trumpets

[@TheGreatJ]

@@easiersaidwithmeg have you ever seen movies? People root for the evil character all the time. People love homelander because Anthony Star is an amazing actor and homelander is a very fun character to watch. Essentially what happens if you give an immature teenager the power and ego of a demi-God. But you and this KZbinr are delusional if you don't think that most people watching the show know that homelander is a bad guy... People know it. They just like the character from a TV story telling perspective.

[@TheGreatJ]

@@Agee1 if you think I'm one of those people you might be more stupid than the trumpets

[@s.n.9485]

I didn't like the Frenchie bf/jail storyline. It came out of nowhere, it was unearned, didn't move the story forward and was quite boring. Kimiko's storyline was ok. I pretty much enjoyed the rest of the show though. I'm excited to see what they do with Ryan/Homelander and hopefully Hughie catches a break because they did him dirty this season🤣🤣🤣🤣. And I was disappointed to see Victoria Newman get ripped apart because she was one of my favorite characters.

[@glareicebutts1423]

seriously, gotta have at least one gay relationship for diversity

[@IScreamedWolf]

Yeah I really had faith that they’d stick the landing on the French or story line and I was really disappointed

[@grisflyt]

I agree. It was boring. But I don't think you can say there was no point. Only that it was poorly done. I have more issues with the murderous daughter. But I also hold my judgment. By that I mean it may relate to Butcher's parasite. The Boys has been very good at staying true to character. Stormfront, as vile as she was, was also as tough as they get. She would have been content being bedridden for the rest of her life if only her cause came true. Or Emma in Gen V. My favorite. But she's also everything Sam said she is. Sam calling her a real hero was all it took to become infatuated. Lots of women are like that. My experience is most. My point is that that it doesn't make Emma less. It only makes her human. What I find ironic about much of the criticism is that we only bought Homelander's character in season 3 because of Trump. (EBITDA margins.) Nobody is that petty and insecure. Trump is. The low hanging fruit in season 4 is how reality looks like.

[@heather-ks8st]

ooohhh I am coming back to sit down and watch this I know I’m gonna have soo much to say!

[@JeannesMovieChats]

I hope you enjoy the video ahaha! 😅

[@theblondeunit]

Completely agree with you around the midway point as a political science major myself!! Love this.

[@azuredivina]

loved everything you said about the death of media literacy. people have the chance to take a look in the mirror & learn something or two, but they just double-down on hate instead. it's insidious & sad. or they just take the "meh" route rather than really allowing themselves to be intellectually challenged. like you said, there is no real true discussion being had.

[@JeannesMovieChats]

Thank you friend, I completely agree! 🙌🏾

[@venod3134]

Just an FYI. The Boys is based on a comic that was written in 2007 originally. The "He is Trump" thing makes no sense, HL hates humans, he doesn't care about politics nor the "right wing". He is a selfish child with too much power. He could be an allegory for plenty of world leaders but to think they wrote this show for the left is ridiculous. The show is a take down of superhero troupes. A takedown of corporations. And a takedown of politics in general. There are no heros in the Boys.

[@RemixedYoshi]

As a wannabe actor / voice actor i hope to get into a tv show like this one day seems fun

[@newscoulomb3705]

I disagree about one point. The Boys actually hasn't let up on "the left," even through the 4th Season. What I think people miss is that The Boys never punches down with their criticisms (they only target those in power), so when they've attacked "the left" in the past, the groups they were actually attacking were the media conglomerates and politicians who coopted left-wing talking points. The criticisms of Disney and Marvel were spot-on, and the fact is, we can't really say whether Neuman is an AOC or Kamala Harris. Even with Gen V, they criticized the educational system that support these larger institutions while exploiting the youth of America. In terms of media literacy, it's always been obvious that there are a lot of folk who think they are great writers or critical drink...err... thinkers, but in actuality, they aren't very good at writing or analyzing. The problem is, social media gives them megaphones. Luckily, The Boys has largely exposed them for the two-bit hacks they actually are, and folk like me who actually appreciate quality writing can just sit back and enjoy the show while ignoring the noise.

[@jbills3000]

Thanks for the lecture! I really enjoyed it and I loved season 4 as well!

[@justiceforyall]

I wouldn't say Firecracker is left-wing. The character is absolutely a right-wing talking head and is based on a real-life far-right wing politician named Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[@JeannesMovieChats]

She’s absolutely right-wing! Apologies I misspoke, I corrected myself with text 😊

[@AndreMoore1978]

First the trivial: Eternals is BAD, but Madame Web is INFURIATING! There are levels of bad that are missed in an era where everything is viewed in an extremist, group-think hate-mongering lense As for The Boys 4: I feel like there was a bit of messiness in the development of the narrative. It did build to a brilliantly scary finale, but maybe there should have been a couple of more episode to bridge some of those gaps that left me scratching my head a little. It was telegraphed that Billy Butcher had a "Venom symbiote" "Angel v Devil" situation. So, the big reveal didn't surprise me in the slightest. I'm intrigued by the Sage character. There's a bigger story there and I Hope she gets spotlighted in season 5. She's a wild card. We just don't know what her true agenda is. she is Chess v our Checkers. I am PISSED that Nadia was 50% offed, but I reckon I understand why narratively she had to go. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna still be in my feelings about losing her brilliantly written character!! Okay, and she's easy on the eyes. LOL! But I seriously loved the portrayal and development of her character.

[@jigokuruler36]

the only thing that i don't agree with you is about hughie and the fact that he didn't recognize de shifter, the shifter didn't just had a annie skin, it had enough memories of her that she could use that to have a better cover, so it doesn't make sense at all to hold him guilty of anything, other than that, oh and firecracker beign left wing (she's so right wing is crazy) i would agree with you overall

[@cstrombone]

I think she mixed up her words and missed it in editing. No one could call Firecracker left wing on purpose.

[@skybite]

This happened before with season 3 of The Boys.

[@samvanderplas8970]

I have said before that i have seen every kinda nerd-ish show from the last 2 years get called out about "bad writing" but i feel like it's more like people have a story in their head they consider to be "good" writing and anything that deviates from that is "bad" writing. Maybe people aren't willing to suspend their disbelief anymore, which is necessary to like ACTUALLY ENJOY SHIT!! Seeing stuff that is not realistic or doesn't always make logical sense are essential for the visual medium and current social climates online has created a generation so illiterate in media that they seem to critisize actual artists and creators for doing shit and actually trying to MAKE ART that they themselves would never be capable of doing with their level of brain rot. What a fucking world out there

[@Chrysobubulle]

I think it’s you who are suffering from media illiteracy if you think that anyone was thinking Homelander was even remotely a hero ? Homelander is a bad guy since episode 1 lol People are disliking this season because it’s badly written. You seem to forget that two seasons ago, Vaught was portrayed as this falsely woke company, pandering to Millenials and Gen Z with forced inclusivity and Pinkwashing. While being really a cynical and ruthless company giving litteraly zero f about thise issues. So are you saying DEI and LGBT representation are bad ? As the show clearly depicted it as being a tactic to divert attention of the public from shady practices. The thing is: it makes little sense that a company that big, that tried for year to appear as progressive and lgbt friendly, would suddenly become so ridiculously far right. I mean tbere is a good reason: bad writing.

[@jons9721]

Vought as a woke corporation, the whole point is the word corporation is the important one here. Corporations make money, they don't do anything unless it makes money. Nothing wrong with that as long as they follow the law but you can't expect them to act any moral ethically than required. The reality Vought and other organisations are flogging diversity to make money . Same way as any corporation will have a very different advertising campaign in Europe or the US than they will in Saudi Arabia. They target markets

[@Chrysobubulle]

@@jons9721 the problem is Vought went from being woke in season 1 and 2, to become ultra right in season 4. That’s part of what people are criticizing when they talk about S4: because irl, no big multinational company is chosing to become the voice of the alt right. We don’t see Disney or Marvel financing Jesus on Ice, or Sesame Streets puppets calling for kids to report their parents. It makes no sense. Most people thinking season 4 is shit arent thinking that because of political reasons. The show has simply become badly written.

[@jons9721]

@@Chrysobubulle Well Vought did have new management :) They are still going on about fake diversity and at the same time doing religious crap in season 4. Generally in all seasons race and religion are only an issue if its for a logical plot reason. It's interesting they never made Homelander a racist (he just hates all humans) while Stormfront was a literal Nazi because well she was born in that regime. For the rest of the characters good or bad race and sexuality are just background

[@cassidygiven]

Everyone has known that Homelander is a villain since the beginning, but I think she’s more so referring to the people who unironically say they relate to him and root for him. Of course, with his backstory you are supposed to feel bad for him in a way, but not agree with him or justify his actions. Ofc, good representation is not bad. Like you said, it’s when they use it to gain an audience but don’t actually care about or support those communities that it’s bad. I think the shift to more right wing views in Vought’s advertising this season is just meant to reflect how Homelander is gaining more control of the companies optics and to show how easily media can be influenced with people like him in control. In previous seasons he wasn’t in charge of those decisions. Plus, he’s been shown to be very rash and impatient so it makes sense he would just do a complete overhaul without really considering possible implications like previous management would have. There are definitely some things about the writing this season that could’ve been a lot better, like how out of nowhere Frenchie and Colin’s relationship, and Annie’s abortion seemed (coming from a gay, pro-choice person lol) but I don’t think Voughts shift in image is one of them.

[@Chrysobubulle]

@@cassidygiven im gonna maybe be more explicit as to why me and certainly other people feel the quality of the show has gone down in the last seasons: - first i want to remind everyone that the show always had conservative viewers, and they didt mind so much and even enjoyed season 1 and 2 when their beliefs were already being associated to a sociopathic supermonster or to a nazi superhero. So it’s not that they were oblivious to that fact before. It’s just that the writing ketp even a criticism of their belief, well entertaining. Why has the show and especially this season, turned bad: - characters objectives: the main goal of the protagonists always was how to stop Homelander. But you can’t stop Homelander, not before the last episode of the last season. Otherwise there is no more real threat. In Season 3 Butcher had a real chance to kill Homelander. But the writers found a convoluted way for him to spare Homelander. Because again: no Homelander, no show. Now the same thing happens in S4. They have a way. They don’t anymore. Because the writers can’t kill Homelander yet. It makes pretty much everything feel pointless. You know you’ll end up in a status quo at the end of the season. - plot armor: for the same reason, nothing impactful can happen until the last season, you know nothing serious will happen to the main characters, or the main antagonists. You know that to compensate that, any new character is also meat fodder, because you need to have some graphic violence in this show, but if you can’t kill any main heroes or villains, then you will use all secondary characters you can find to satiete the viewers bloodlust. Most frustrating is that it makes zero sense for the bad guys to not try to eliminate the Boys. So there is little surprise in what unfolds: you know the main characters won’t die, and that they have little to no agency in the end, the writers want them in specific places for the final season so no matter what they do, they will end up there. - some storylines are even more pointless than others: the kimiko/frenchie personal storylines this season was an all time low. Like you feel the writers have absolutely no idea about what to do with them, so it’s always the same plotline: both did bad things in the past. Frenchie attempt to redemption feel absolutely pointless since he gets out of jail with no consequence. The whole Colin storyline serves for what ? Remind us that Frenchie did aweful stuff ? All of this to end up with Kimiko at the end. Again: the status quo is preserved, they back to their default position, the whole season was completely pointless for them. - i know it’s not plot related, and it might seem unfair, but i really felt that too: the face of the actress playing Starlight is super distracting. Im sure she must realize that whatever she did was a mistake, but her face has become uncanny ? Its very weird - again about preserving the status quo: last season ended with Homelander finally going wild and killimg in cold blood someone in the streets. So you’re led to believe he is finally gonna abandon his all Im a Superhero persona for a more directly antagonistic one. But first episode of this season: back to the status quo, the courts cleared him, it was self defense. So he can go back to his fake nice persona, his day to day life. - Neuman incoherences: i kinda remember Victoria Neuman being publicly opposed to Homelander in the last season, she is a VP of a candidate strongly opposed to supes. Why is she now appearing publicly as someone almost friendly to Homelander ? - plot contrivances: Annie immediately finds the super secret bunker where the president is hidden. Said president is immediately arrested because of some video. Seems things are going fast suddenly cause the writers want a specific starting point for the last season. - repetitive shock value: the tradition of having something gross, sexual and supe related in the beginning of the season is starting to become boring. And honnestly it felt so forced what we saw this year, it made little sense. - Sage super genious 4D chess plan: yeah definitely, you can’t write a character more intelligent than you are. Sage plan: absolutely no plan and say snarkingly at the end “everything is going according to my plans hehe” 😅

[@lucapellegrinelli7263]

Slight disagreement, the original Star Wars was an allegory to the Vietnam war more so than Nazism. But in general, great video!

[@Agee1]

yes and no. The orginal star wars was allegory to the Vietnam war( with the rebels represents the viet cong) the designs for the empire troops are inspired by ww2 nazis

[@Nigerianhero97]

Your English accent is so beautiful

[@JeannesMovieChats]

Aww thank you! 🥹

[@samvanderplas8970]

9:01 Also fun fact: the empire is actually a metaphor for America and the rebels are the Vietkong. That's right, star wars is a hippy anti-vietnam movie at it's core I personally like acolyte i would recommend it! The youtube channel Generation Tech makes exactly your points when it comes to media literacy especially in the Star Wars fandom, his perspective on star wars is probably the most honest and unbiased you can find, and he brings up fascinating questions in general i'm sure if this is the way you view media you might find some kindred spirits over there!

[@cm9334]

Great video, i dont agree on a lot of your points BUT there are some valid information to back up your argument to a certain extent. Overall really well done video. Btw the acolyte was absolutely horrid due to story and some canon breaking story plots. Sadly though there are some miserable people who get mad over the dumbest thing!

[@easiersaidwithmeg]

There are canon breaking story plots in mostly white shows all the time that don’t receive the backlash. They look for any loopholes when it’s a non white lead. Just like Star Trek discovery with a black female lead gets review bombed but it has the same “Star Trek” plot of every Star Trek show in history.

[@cm9334]

@@easiersaidwithmeg why does it have to be “white” shows. That in itself shows you have a small portion of racism in yourself to have a viewpoint like that. I do not see color what so ever. I hate the acolyte because it has poor writing. Star trek was never my cup of tea so can care less about that. When it comes to female leads there are movies and shows out there that portray them the correct way. As powerful and empowered women who dont depend on anyone unless its necessary. As for non white leads there are plenty of amazing actors who do very well in their role. Denzel washington, Chadwick Boseman, Idris Elba, Michael B. Jordan, Daniel Kaluuya ffs so many amazing black actors. I feel you are just triggered since you like or are invested in something so many people dislike. You are the one looking hard into why people hate a show you may love. I absolutely love deep blue sea, however its a stupid fucking movie and so many people think its dumb. Wont change me from loving it due to seeing it when younger and one of my first experiences with “adult” media

[@markcandlish461]

Hi Jeanne hi, this is an incredible video, one of your very best. It’s up there with your Napoleon video, which was incredible too. I haven’t watched season 4 of The Boys yet, but will very soon, just finishing off Harlem on Amazon, then will do The Morning Show and then The Boys. You are spot on about everything you say though and I love the addition of Susan Heyward, I liked her in Orange Is The New Black, thought she was great. Thank you very much for your comments on The Acolyte, very much appreciated it and it’s really annoyed me the general negative discourse around it. The problem is, is that the discourse online filters out into everyday life. Like I have had people at work tell me it’s not very good, to my friends telling me, while watching the football that is not very good. I am like What! It’s incredible. The best thing Star Wars has done, especially in tv, in my opinion. I just find it so annoying, but I think it’s a larger representation of the right wing discourse that is an under current going on in this country at the moment. I just find it all so frustrating. I feel Jeanne you will love The Acolyte, I don’t know, but I think you would. All the performances are great, from Amandla Stenberg, Manny Jacinto, Lee Jung-jae and Rebecca Henderson all give amazing performances. However, the standout for me was Jodie Turner-Smith. Just amazing amazing performance, she should get nominated when the awards come around. If and when you are ready Jeanne give The Acolyte a go. The best thing Star Wars have done. Preying for a season 2. Thank you very much for this video Jeanne, it was just what I needed. A fired up, passionate Jeanne, who does not pull any punches is the best Jeanne, and just what I needed. Thank you very much always! 😊😊😊 Take care and always looking forward to the next one

[@JeannesMovieChats]

Thank you so much for your lovely comment Mark, I really appreciate it as always! And it’s such a shame that with all this toxicity it’s tough to get a sense of what the Acolyte is really like, I might check it out for myself later in the year, we’ll see…

[@Childofthemoonandsea]

Wild how people missed the context…it’s been super obvious all along. Conservatives especially have a special brand of cognitive dissonance. It’s wild….but that also comes from perpetual victimhood. Things they always accuse literally everyone else of. Great insights as always.

[@ggu7r76g]

You're so right! The review bombing is only done by one side. I don't think there should be retaliation for shows with a right wing slant, but it's sad that this true. I'm glad the review bombing did not prevent the show from having high viewership. I really liked this season. I liked seeing more of Ryan's struggle with which father figure to follow Homelander or Butcher & A-Train's redemption. Also liked the new characters - the new Black Noir, Firecracker, & Sage. Sad about Neuman - I liked her character.

[@signalfire15]

I thought it was okay. It seemed more like a filler / setup season for the next one. I did like the scene of Homelander crying because A Train betrayed him lol. I wonder if Homelander would kill Ryan if Ryan challenges him though… As for the political commentary in the show, I think most right wing people watched it believing Homelander was an allegory to Hitler / Nazis rather than them. Season 4 made it painfully clear who Homelander is meant to represent. That Jan 6th reference could not be missed! I wonder how the remainder of the show will play out given what’s going on in American politics right now.

[@JeannesMovieChats]

The fact that the series had a presidential assassination planned for the finale….. when art imitates life imitates art….

[@venod3134]

@@signalfire15 Homelander does not care about people at all. So the whole "he represents the right wing" is completely bs. He is only using whoever he can to further his own selfish cause.

[@signalfire15]

@@venod3134 Many would argue, that is exactly what the right wing does. Not to mention the actual writers / creator of the show telling us who he represents lol.

[@venod3134]

@signalfire15 how can he represent someone when his character was written before that person was even in his position? You do know "President Homelander" is a character from the comic book "The Boys" right? I know what they are saying. You can't seem to see why they are saying it, but you are here regurgitating what they have said....

[@signalfire15]

@@venod3134 The character of Homelander on The Boys tv show is a play on Donald Trump. This is a fact. I really don’t know what you’re arguing about. Goodnight!

[@leroyhudson8952]

Honestly if you go to America 95 percent of them don’t even get sarcasm or wordplay 😂 I was at florida universal studios about to go on the Harry Potter train ride and my pass wouldn’t scan when I tried … anyway a worker scanned it and it worked straight away so I said “you’ve got the magic touch.” She said “I’m sorry sir?” And I said “ you know magic touch? Harry Potter?” And she still didn’t understand 😂😂😂😂

[@venod3134]

@@leroyhudson8952 so one experience speaks for all Americans? I guess.... See what I did there. As an American.

[@Quartermp4]

Or maybe there are genuine problems with the pacing and writing this time round? (the reasons for this are varied) instead of going the very boring and low iq "hurr durr you are just mad you realised they were making fun of you" route as a response to any and all criticism of the show? idk just a thought

[@Djamp_htx]

“Media Literacy” is just a deflection term “creatives” came up with to deflect criticism by insulting the intelligence of the audience for bad writing and conveyance. It’s obvious because that’s the only context it’s ever used in

[@JeannesMovieChats]

There are definitely narrative issues with this season… that’s not why it’s being review bombed though.

[@Quartermp4]

@@JeannesMovieChats And if the reviews were overwhelmingly positive for the same reasons that it’s getting “bombed” I’m assuming it would no longer count as review bobbing right? Because it’s only review bombing when it’s a score you disagree with for a reason you disagree with.

[@venod3134]

@Quartermp4 I don't proclaim to be left or right leaning. But I will say the left gets served badly in these type of debates. The assumption that the show is a critique of the left is completely ignoring how the right is being called out as well, as hypocritical and not at all as "good" as they pretend to be. If the left can't see that and can only see the "attacks" on the right... well that says alot.

[@pearlosibu]

I think the show leans left but is also quite neutral. There is also a lot of criticism of leftist antics. Especially in the criticism of a character that is supposed to be morally upright (starlight) that shows the lack of empathy, tolerance etc). It’s not equal but it’s balanced. The left isn’t perfect either, and i say that as a left-leaning person. The left is extremely intolerant.

[@venod3134]

@pearlosibu Bingo. It seems like nobody truly understands the show. The Libs are getting beat in the game too, outsmarted at every turn. It's an overall critique, I think looking at it otherwise does the show a great disservice.

[@pearlosibu]

@@venod3134 Absolutely. This review has a very "us goo; them bad" vibe that I don't like. And the gag is that she is guilty of what she's accusing everyone else of. This is why I like the show. if it was just all about dunking on conservatives while heralding everything lib I would have stopped watching long ago. because I believe that it's more nuanced than that. Also, she is speaking as though Homelander is being outrightly condemned when literally, this show has made a very good case for why he deserves our sympathy. I don't think he'll get a redemption arc; he's done too much harm. But I definitely feel differently about him. Nobody can endured what he endured and be expected to be normal, especially not when they have superpowers. And then, Starlight is not great even when it's done unintentionally. Like the way she responds to Hughie getting SA-ed. Not to speak of the showrunners not having a moral high ground to judge anyone. Not with how they characterized what happened to Hughie in the Dungeon arc. Also, if the show was that woke, they might not have made Sister Jade, a villain, a black woman. I think one has to very wedded to ideology to make the kinds of one-sided assumptions made in this review.

[@venod3134]

@pearlosibu excellent breakdown. What about Ashley, how does the "see they are making fun of you guys, haha" explain her character arch? Do they think she is a "right wing nutjob" as well? I would love to see them explain her to me I don't understand how they don't see that calling HL, Trump is just an ego boost for Trump. So Trump is an all powerful demigod with a child like mentality? Someone who could destroy anyone with a literal blink of an eye? Really? Why would the left even want Trump to be seen as HL? It's not as big of an insult as they think it is, considering the rest of the cast behaviors. Could of called Trump that new President puppet guy, but they were too impatient so they made him Homelander and blamed it on "right wing realization". Weak!

[@shaun1114]

ngl, the best parts of this season was sage giving Neuman the double heads up and when she gave homelander the balloon at the end. The frenchie and Kimieko thing was dumb, like really dumb, like I mean as dumb as people thinking homelander represents white supremacy instead of racial supremacy in general. I miss old Noir too, I hope he is still alive. Season 4 was eh except the last episode.

[@JeannesMovieChats]

The Frenchie and Kimiko storylines were so disappointing. Frenchie was literally just put away for several episodes because they had nothing for him for to do.

[@FairyPrincessNia]

It’s just amazing how conservatives go through life never stopping to think, “Ya know-maybe it’s me.”

[@dannyp-ufc8883]

The boys wasn't a one sided critique of the right in the opening season, it was nuanced & niche? Mind boggling to me that members of the audience like yourself can't see the blatant shift as the shows progressed due to your own bias, insulting others when your clearly clueless 😂

[@JeannesMovieChats]

Putting your incorrect use of the word niche aside for a sec, you’ve ironically proven my title correct with this comment. You’re criticising my analysis of the show…. by quoting me almost verbatim…? I assume you didn’t get to that part of the video huh, because I literally said the exact same thing about how the series has progressed 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@john_doe_smith]

It still critizing both sides and portraying them for what they are. The libs weak willed, powerless, disorganized, whiny and deluded. The magats, hypocrites, liars, trashy, criminally minded and overall stupid. Then you have the Sister Sages and Billy Butchers of the world who just want to see the world burn.

[@cuzzent4846]

Can we get a bad boys 4 reaction😢

[@marouanefellaini707]

Ok explain why there’s bad writing in the show don’t just say it’s bad the reason why Vought was fake liberal is because it was under different leadership in the show and in reality outside of the show liberalism talking points where popular in media in peak 2019 and there we’re rightfully criticized because they were fake Homelander in season 3 felt like he was criticized too much for dating a nazi and didn’t want take responsibility because that’s just who he is he’s a child when he gave that speech about being stronger and smarter he became popular to white Caucasian male after the speech now does Homelander care for conservative talking points no he cares what political side will get him in control of the US he doesn’t fall in line with those ideas because he doesn’t like humans and sees them as insects The Boys is still showing how DEI LGBTQ and liberalsim can be used by bad people in media the same thing can be said about conservatism

[@UnoDinero95001]

Huh

[@caseyhart4999]

People have known that Homelander is a Trump stand in and is the villain of the show for the entire time. Just because people disagree with your world view doesn’t mean they have no “media literacy” lol

[@UnoDinero95001]

I promise u 7’months ago a majority of of People who are now upset at the show, thought homelander was an anti hero.😭

[@caseyhart4999]

@@UnoDinero95001 I’ll take your word for it I guess but I imagine a sizable portion of those people are just trolling/baiting. I think what’s more disturbing really is the people who actually believe the shows portrayal of the right is accurate to real life.

[@The5armdamput33]

It's similar to fans of Rorschach.... The creator of Watchmen (comic, specifically) said, if you identify with Rorschach, "stay away from me"

[@john_doe_smith]

What if you identify with Ozymandias and his cause?

[@ashiverson]

I’m sorry I hate hearing non Americans discuss American shows that are about politics. Just say you don’t understand White Americans and go. But don’t say they lack in literacy where your viewpoint can never be theirs.

[@UnoDinero95001]

What??😂

[@AmusedGermanShepherd-er5gp]

No, anyone can be critical of an American show, even commenting on politics. I thought free speech was a thing. Obviously it's only free speech to anyone you agree with

[@ObsidianKingSlade]

The general public does consider this to be a weaker/weakest season. Politics has its place in this discussion. Its just a scapegoat to mask legitimate critisms like lazy writing, shock value, regressing characters and hollow storylines. Its okay to disagree and have varied opinions. I dont think its fair to label this critism as bitter rightwingers. I agree some fans are very yikes, But their percentags is very overblown. Vocal minority for a reason

[@ObsidianKingSlade]

Penguinz0 (moist critical) Made the perfect video explaining the situation The bad reviews are for a reason, None of which are political. Even when early access viewes saw the first 3 episodes, they considered them to be good but not great. So the critism is legitimate and not a mob mentality. As long as a vocal minority doesnt discredit real reasons people didnt like season 4.

[@UnoDinero95001]

@@ObsidianKingSlademosit’s criticisms were honestly as stupid as most people’s i’ll be honest.

[@ObsidianKingSlade]

@@UnoDinero95001 its still really messed up of kripke to ridicule and victim blame hughie for 3 entire episodes.

[@ObsidianKingSlade]

Most of the political discussion is very hypocritical. Particularly the amazon to vought connection. (To clarify im team blue/left, Not right by any means) when sage mentioned using the media machines to slander starlight, or the vnn comment. left is politically correct, Most media are left leaning CNN / VNN im glad they are. This is just to point out the hypocracy thats fair to mention. I like cameron colemans comment on taking shots at the home team to appear unbiased. When amazon is guilty of every sin the boys critises big corps for. The lampshading is so nausiating. I truly hope amazon is a progressive company. But their workers conditions, Automating, Anti employee/consumer practices Their prime day for example Its been proven virtually 0 sales actually happened, Most items stayed at the same price but with 67% off on Point being we're no better than people going to vought land to support brave maeve. Amazon is no better than the people they pretend to hate.

[@ObsidianKingSlade]

Im saying all this not as a defense, More so to give my perspective on the situation. The boys isnt actually taking a stance or supporting progressivism. Its as simple as their ebitda margins, prices per share, and quotas. Nothing more than checkin boxes. Which breaks my heart to say. I wish we could consider amazon an ally but we really cant.