The Breakdown with Zirene: How SKT beat EDG (Worlds Group Stage Week 1)

[@LucRio448]

This was (in my opinion) one of the best breakdowns I've ever seen - especially factoring in what lead to SKT even being able to go into the dark in midlane because of what they did botlane, one aspect I did not realise before. Thanks a lot & keep up the great work :)

[@themanhimself436]

huh? haaaaaaaiiil naaaah brutha

[@21jabom75]

SKT be like “Welcome to the dark side.” xd

[@Gray.12]

Or maybe they just translated the comms of SKT lmao

[@ivanstratimirovic8941]

@@Gray.12 Skt comms were "Rek'sai, Rek'sai, Rek'sai"

[@noone370]

Wolf deserves a huge credit for this play. Faker also said in an interview that it was his call. Plus he is the only one who hugs ex-SKT members :D

[@andrescifuentes7089]

All of SKT, they made THE MOST coordinated and probably the best prepared Teamfight ever. Just look how Wolf and Huni flash almost at the same time to hit that Janna with Silence, charm and then knock her up, and the cc chain with shockwave while Bang goes ratatatata. I'ts the most aproximated to perfection.

[@adityaghosal1000]

Probably one of the best plays in Worlds history hands down. Wolf is probably the hidden op player of SKT with his clutch engage calls. A very similar one happened at MSI as well with zyra. Was a pleasure to watch this live !

[@kumar7vaibhav]

add me bro. IGN: Akhilleus on Garena

[@nilsp9426]

It would be very interesting to combine the breakdown with mic check and hear the communication before that engage. I bet Wolf played a big part in that aswell.

[@Synode21]

You can watch the video by "Today on Korean server" when you can hear the voices translated before this teamfight. It was during day 2.

[@aeowinh]

But the key of that tf was CHo gat silence, if SKT don¡t have that Janna can have time to cast ult and disengage.

[@hyperion808gaming7]

is that the one where he flashes over the raptor wall and hits a 3 man snare into knockup? that was epic af

[@DeviltoGeorgia34]

"The target is Meiko's Janna." Thank God. Someone who actually understands that you don't always focus the carry first. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's the highest threat to your carries like an assassin or the front line bruisers/tanks. Sometimes its the champion who is most detrimental to your team's strategy, in this case, the support.

[@shiyourin4846]

Good old solo queue: WHY ARE U FOCUSING THE SUPPORT

[@neku4449]

ikr others will just ask you " Why u guys get the support first kill the their adc and mid first" they dont understand the threat of support CC and Shields and items

[@NanoLT]

You guys are making it out as if it is always the best option to focus the support. Literally the only supports in a full blown teamfight you should focus are Soraka and Janna and only in specific situations.

[@Derploop]

DeviltoGeorgia34 anyone who plays Darius knows that it's not the carries who get focussed.

[@shiyourin4846]

Its not always the best option but when it IS the best option people never realize it. Never made it out to be the best option all the time so idk where u got that from

[@rubberduckyy5098]

2019 and I’m still watching lol Simply the best demonstration of macro, micro, engage timings, and fundamentals.

[@johndavidmaquiling7440]

2020 still watching

[@gnar7891]

2021 and I'm still watching, so far one of the best comebacks I've watched

[@mikasaackermann6768]

Yes fav comeback ever

[@mareksicinski3726]

but the former are fundamnetals

[@naekano1488]

2024 and this is still the best comeback no team has yet to replicate or outperform.

[@vinsmoke2865]

How to beat SKT: 1. Be a Korean team 2. Good luck

[@heneryhu7316]

Vinsmoke actually , EDG do have beaten SKT,and , in BO5

[@randomyoutubeaccount970]

yes EDG was the only not korean team that Beat SKT on MSI

[@smolpotatoe1744]

@@randomyoutubeaccount970 non korean team with 40% korean member :D

[@HH-oz9pf]

@@heneryhu7316 yeah with 2 korean players 😂

[@heneryhu7316]

Kk Dd ifyou calculate not bo5 ring did it much time

[@jarredthomlinson6792]

Zirene + the breakdown = best content I watch on KZbin.

[@Fuyukori]

I watched this live and im still amazed by how good this game was

[@Boufu]

The vision ploy by skt from bot to mid is actually genius, will implement in my ranked 5’s

[@jackwood7726]

Tweetumsmultiput still won't get you out of silver

[@neku4449]

but your teammates will just engage them and every one on your team will be dead XD

[@Boufu]

Actually diamond. hardstuck D5, but nonetheless...

[@Altern8iv3]

i think you can pull it off but depends heavily on how much experience your teammates have as a team and in communication

[@smolpotatoe1744]

@@Boufu i would say, dun bother it wont work unless ur teammates are communicating with one another

[@BrownishSage15]

Sometimes losing isnt the scariest thing. Its knowing that there was absolutely nothing you could've done to turn that fight.

[@joaotrovaofilho]

Not really. They messed up vision setup, and clearlove emerging from ground for a pink ward was definitely a mistake. After that they were dead but didnt knew yet Fightwise i agree, there wasnt anything that couldve been done better. Skt played it perfectly

[@deckyputra5524]

SK Telecom! Legends for a reason

[@goobyaluob]

This is the best analysis of a single play I’ve ever seen Jesus christ

[@dirktrash3455]

Great breakdown, it's moments like these that show just how Korea is light-years ahead of all the other regions.

[@lilplm3]

5:49 You can see who's making the calls by watching what directions they move

[@yuvrajlally606]

fakers

[@micucaracha3308]

@@yuvrajlally606 nope Wolf bro

[@hitorikun2191]

@@micucaracha3308 Nope. Faker's bro. Look closely, Faker's Orianna decisively moves towards the tower. Huni&Wolf's path towards Baron and suddenly change their mind.

[@je1414]

@@yuvrajlally606 yeah it's faker's call but wolf did the exact perfect timing to engage

[@coolman312456]

Faker did say that wolf made this engage call

[@Artaxerxes.]

Wolf doesnt have to prove anything now. He's easily the best support of all time

[@Zwijger]

Shadow Fiend Mmh, that might be true but that wouldn't be because of this engage, this was more of a show of why SKT as a whole is so great. Also I think there are definitely supports that are on Wolf's level.

[@support_eu6397]

at least wolf is the best in terms of engages among all supports

[@ericlin7775]

Shadow Fiend Mata/Madlife/Meiko: Hold my beer.

[@support_eu6397]

Mata isnt even at worlds, and got completely rekt by wolf and Bang at last worlds and in 2017 playoff summer KT vs SKT

[@Torjus_]

Having one bad split does not make Mata a bad support. I still consider him one of the best.

[@SamHanEsports]

Flashback to Wolf's Zyra engage at MSI.

[@nilsp9426]

Absolutely! The Zyra engage might have been even more unexpected... SKT's ability to prepare and orchestrate team fights has been legendary for a long time!

[@Synode21]

Wolf is a beast... that makes sense.

[@UNKNWN96]

hmmm there's a pun in there somewhere

[@Yvaelle]

There are lots of 200 IQ plays, and a few 200 IQ players in League. Wolf is the only 300 IQ player. He's so devastatingly good at both macro and orchestrating the perfect teamfights it's hard to fathom even in slow motion.

[@treemo501]

And people don't rank him as one of the top supports O_o

[@TheMineA7]

Zirene's voice is perfect. Calm collected and articulate. He explains things very well. I wanna see more Zirene content

[@xorpe7172]

It's tradition to return here every few years

[@moonstruckcreatives]

its 2022 and still the most shocking comeback and gameplay I have ever witness. I still remember i shouted alone in my room when i saw this play for the first time.

[@gamingdoore]

I missed these so much

[@juliantrejos7627]

Man I miss these, I wish they did more recent ones. This was such a good series, i dont even know why they stopped doing it.

[@mangosage7288]

T1 is 13-0 now. God tier team

[@support_eu6397]

And people will still say that SKt's victories are boring?)

[@Derploop]

Arthes Lich king predictable, perhaps. They don't feel worried that their team could lose.

[@wabbajack8283]

they're just bunch of haters that keep seeing SKT at their screen year after year so they will root to another team just to make SKT look bad

[@wabbajack8283]

the scream of disappointment lmao. Nonetheless, kudos to the chinese fans, at least they're lively unlike in NA or EU where people are dead silent.

[@crabs632]

Day will Fall what??? Chinese crowd was dead silent every time they lost, what universe are you watching worlds in?

[@featherfellow6651]

They have the most interesting wins actually aahahaha

[@vegard7020]

A breakdown on what makes Gigabyte Marine's highly aggressive style work would be really nice.

[@akaliislifeakaliislove5968]

"work"

[@fireship3007]

Cheers Mate didn't work very well did it?

[@mesadboi5750]

i like them tiddys from the grill behind faker lul

[@Happyrevic]

I think it worked really well early on, both in game and in groups. It's like telling a really shocking joke, it works fine first but if you continue telling it over and over it'll lose it's power.

[@marcustang8784]

there is nothing to breakdown; the marines simply pick winning lanes and jungle and pressure the map that's it

[@benjaminschick]

6:48 IBoy used barrier thinking he had heal

[@WildRiftGameplayandTutorial]

Lol, I also wonder why presses barrier with full health. XD

[@chxrryskies]

The mention about the 27th minute at 6:45 really gave me goosebumps. This is the exact same thing that Faker said earlier this year, in the match against Gen. G. At the 27th minute, he made the call that that was when they were strongest, and they went on to win the game 3 minutes later. In an interview after that, he acknowledged that his judgment about this "strongest moment" came from all his past experiences. Maybe just a coincidence but who knows :")

[@hankonokokoro6684]

Their strategy is amazing skt is amazing

[@PokerkingKarl]

Hankō no Kokoro Not at this worlds though

[@hankonokokoro6684]

Honestly I was an skt fan since their first worlds but without peanut and huni I don't like any of the players besides faker ;(

[@PokerkingKarl]

Hankō no Kokoro If you like a team only because of some players you don't like the team, but those special players.

[@hankonokokoro6684]

I liked the team because of the players indeed but since every time I start to appreciate a player they are fired from skt i'm kinda sad ;(

[@MrSomesayso]

By far the Best Breakdown with Zirene thus FAR!!! Keep up the good work @RiotZirene bravo my friend bravo!

[@hungphanvan3826]

a beautiful breakdown for the incredible moment of a legend !

[@captianawesome12]

I've been expecting this! I'm glad you guys did it. This is amazing not forgetting to mention the explanations and visuals are so on point everything is fluid

[@NewTears1]

Clearlove unburrowing so his team can’t see the tremors is just something I never would’ve analyzed even after watching this play 100 times. It’s the small details like that which make this breakdown golden

[@wubbly742]

Petition to bring this format back.. Such a great content!

[@MrMastera]

Legends never die : )

[@themanhimself436]

they go mia ping

[@Ckei03]

How SKT beat EDG Short Answer: Because they are SKT.

[@ericlin7775]

Chezter Kevyn Mesina Even shorter answer: Because it's EDG (In China, EDG is considered a good team when and only when fighting Chinese clubs, their international performance is somehow worse than RNG or WE)

[@Scarlet_moon.]

nah true reason is because Peanut is huge Yu-gi-oh! fan,he laid down that ward as trap card for rek'sai to unburrow,this entire plan wouldn't work if rek'sai stayed underground.

[@AnhBoyDad]

I watched this game. And omg this moment i was screaming. Amazing wombo combo

[@pojiajamainajamain2371]

Yaaahh..Kkokma is a truly genius coach..the composition is so creative

[@sebastiaankruis3006]

I love these Videos, really high quality content!

[@Happyrevic]

Record breaking comeback... until today. Thanks LZ. SKTs comeback is way better tho. Since SKT broke EDG, while GAM just kinda dissolved slowly against LZ.

[@Yvaelle]

LZ didn't win that match, GAM lost it. If GAM were capable of not being reckless they would have won, but GAM only has one mode and it's hyper-aggressive all game, even when they don't need to be.

[@coolmanph]

It was said at 25 minutes. At 25 minutes SKT was down 10k, today LZ was down to GAM by 4k at 25:00.

[@markensenado]

still gave me goosebumps watching this comeback.

[@akux3673]

LEGENDS FOR A REASON!!!

[@CubemasterXD]

The quality of this video was insane! I wish there would be more of these for more epic teamfights in the history (and maybe that faker zed vs zed outplay from bacj in the day which i still dont get) Keep up the great work man

[@shreyaspai3791]

07:56 as much as I was excited to see SKT win..it was also incredibly heartbreaking to see Mouse with that face. It's got to be extremely painful for them :/

[@oyaoya7139]

This breaknow is enough for a man to get teary eyes

[@msindhwani1]

I came here to refresh the best memory of SKT T1 ♥️

[@jacobguy9085]

This is... beauty in its purest form.

[@Lee-wo4cn]

I watched this live and almost thought that EDG will win the match but had the feeling that something's about to happen... then I almost dropped my phone when it did 😂... this was indeed a team effort. 👍👊👌

[@LilPunisher]

watching this 2 years afterwards Pog

[@lehends5683]

That was a misplay from meiko. He had a small window at the start to deny wolf's engage with his ult. Which would have been disastrous for Skt

[@TCTCyou]

Na, he had zero window for counter play, Janna’s ult doesn’t go far enough to hit wolf and push him back before he ult flash w cc with cho’s silence and knock up by jarvan E,Q and ori ult. He had no vision on wolf until he flash, the only reason you think he can counter is because you’re not seeing fog of war

[@David-ex5yy]

A very impressive analysis. Great work!

[@2dominus]

gives me goosebumps everytime

[@iech0526]

WOOOO! Been waiting for this video Zirene! Gj.

[@Artaxerxes.]

I haven't watched the vid yet. But it was all Wolf. He made that call

[@OneWingedRose]

Watch and learn something then.

[@ciel37yearsago42]

Yeah lol all wolf, he couldve 1v5ed that without any teammates since he made the call. Nice dude

[@holasoymichael.muchogusto9590]

Here after the Worlds 2021 draw where SKT and EDG are back in the same bracket. Good 'Ol Days.

[@Bolony1988]

Uhmmm... at this moment, I don't mind anymore if SKT wins again. Because their players truly create a top notch team every worlds.

[@Zenkawa93]

You’re making it sound like it’s the same roster every year

[@atchechemuch]

That focus 7:58

[@nicksoselia2805]

i ligit watched every possible video of this game and that combo man i still am sweating every time i watch it...

[@pedroportales7580]

Im sad Zirene isn´t at Worlds he deserves it a lot , i want him in next worlds

[@paveldanilov4869]

SKT-T1 yooo you did this!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, was soo cool!

[@kaituioane905]

Can we bring these back

[@TheNappyboy40]

love the breakdown. keep it up!!

[@guruespiritu2069]

Oct 2021 now. This is the best comeback

[@shzzznttt21]

one thing i realized about korean teams competing in international events like worlds and msi, is that they have a *slow* early game. because they focus on getting essential items needed (depending on their team comp and their enemy's team comp) and getting objectives as much as they could in mid going to the late game. this game made me realize that skt is one step ahead of edg, knowing that they could comeback in this game if they prioritize baron. wolf placed a control ward and a sightstone ward near baron to have vision control. while edg's objective is to push bot lane, go to baron and push mid for the win. so skt only have one objective while edg has three objectives to accomplish. and i think skt planned a baron bait on edg knowing that they have no wards around baron and edg thought that skt is already in the baron pit... *and the dream wombo combo just happened.*

[@Worsfold83]

Amazing as always

[@alveolate]

to be clear, this still depended on Bang's Twitch and Faker's Ori getting core items. they were down 10k since quite a while ago, and without the items, they wouldn't have had enough damage to finish them off. but the deliberate patience to wait until just before baron spawned was a true sign of genius and shotcalling.

[@hatruong9009]

can u break down the Levi's Nocturne lvl 6 at 5 minutes while everyone was still lvl 3, 4?

[@usmansajjad9514]

What is there to breakdown? power farming the jg with 2 people? lol This series is about situational understanding and decision making.

[@bhilder]

This is one of the best moments in league ever!

[@VanillaQT]

whos rewatching this on 2022 ? after T1 made another Historical record 18-0 split :)

[@ahmeddarwish4584]

Oh this come back, it can change your beliefs Skt are so good knowing what to sacrifice What to fight for And exactly when

[@KengCheong]

I wonder who ultimately decide on this play during a intense game. The one who shotcall this play is just amazing.

[@auk8785]

I love it when what i see is actually what SKT executed. everyone can think like The Korean teams, we just aren't trying. The comment I am leaving I made yesterday after reviewing the play: After reviwing the Play, it's Meiko's fault they lost. Question, how did he have time to heal and not ult? Answer: he misstepped and cost EDG the game. if he had ulted instead of popping heal, they woulds have lost 1 or 2 members MAYBE... honestly, they could have won that fight. They were fed, and everyone was healthy. if he popped Ult the second Wolf flashed, it would not only have pushed EVERYONE back and out of range, but ALSO applied Ardent Censor to the whole team. giving them the self healing AND attack speed to counter. instead he got chain CC'ed til his death along side his teammates. He should learn Janna more if he wants to go pro or whatever EDIT: A unit that is charmed will move toward the source for the duration, during which time they cannot control their own movement or attacks, and cannot cast abilities, activate items or use the summoner spells Flash and Teleport. With that in mind, i still think he had a spilt second to pop Monsoon when he saw wolf's flash. Rakan has been around long enough for Sups to know when an engage is coming, especially at World's lvl.

[@MarkProvidencia]

AU K meiko didn't even used heal. He was CC'd to death. Charmed knocked up and silence.

[@auk8785]

look at the actual replay. between Wolf's charm & airborne, he popped heal. i've been trying to see how this was possible if he was chain CCed but it happened. Maybe you can heal but not flash or R ? or Meiko just truely f'd up. but all heals were used Edit: A unit that is charmed will move toward the source for the duration, during which time they cannot control their own movement or attacks, and cannot cast abilities, activate items or use the summoner spells Flash and Teleport. all he could do was pop Heal but he, with his team, underestimated the best team of all time... bad move

[@97mesut]

yo Zirene we miss u from worlds groups. Will you be casting/be on desk again? Maybe in the finals? keke

[@koessp]

Starting to really enjoy this series. You could also do a breakdown on the fight at the bottom lane between FNC and IMT game 3 of day 5.

[@albertgrande2980]

its still gives me goosebump

[@shreyaspai3791]

Well. That's how the GODS play! :P

[@大好きアイドル-j2k]

MORE Breakdown PLEASE

[@albertgrande2980]

A comeback like this please!!! we need skt back!!

[@drlovec6925]

I don't mean to sound negative or put you tilt here. But if u and ur team of 5 think like that every game. Newly form team of LOL can reach challenger togetherLove your breakdown of that fight. U earn a subscriber. And ur voice fit the explanation. Wide shot and images. Arrows and rewind help out explaining alot

[@hatesgaming253]

2019 still watching :)

[@dexms4]

Hoping for a breakdown of Longzhu's comeback against GAM's massive lead yesterday. That 5 for 0 teamfight was spectacularly executed.

[@JJBlitz-sp3bi]

dexms4 tweet it to him and get other people to do it and he might

[@cyaneamusic.]

Everytime someone ask me what a wombo is I always go back to this 👆🖤

[@ITZnJeans]

Going back to the greatest comeback

[@Chinix]

SKT always finds a way to comeback every year lol

[@xelasneko]

Oh yes, I waiting waiting for this!

[@daniely6410]

Back in 2019 to recall the best team fight ever

[@elihirro]

SKT's comeback is way better compared to LZ's. SKT's was well orchestrated and was really planned (with the points i never thought of discussed in this breakdown). LZ's gameplan was just to stall out the game and get to 6 items since GAM's team composition is not for straightforward 5v5 teamfights but a quick pick composition to kill the carry utilizing the Rengar + Galio + ZIlean combo which in the late game, became ineffective due to itemization. also, individual mistake from GAM contributed to LZ's win - Zilean's ult for example in the last teamfights. GAM could've won the game if they were able to kill Gragas in the top side jungle as he was establishing vision since Gragas plays a big role in defending the carries of LZ and disrupting GAM's engage and teamfighting as shown in the base defense of LZ where he was able to ult 4 GAM members out of position. props to LZ's great adaptation on how to take on teamfights. Khan's utilization of Jarvan's ult to isolate the damage dealers of GAM is what won them the late teamfights and eventually the game.

[@JJBlitz-sp3bi]

John Elisha Jensen Hirro also that fact the team fights they did were later in the game

[@treyj5308]

longzhou against gam comeback

[@Marv9721-t4l]

IKR

[@swsmp]

i gotchu: zilean pressed ult on the wrong target 2 teamfights in a row

[@mrek3396]

Sho Zenkawa GAM should still feel pretty good even tho since they're still rookies.Im sure they'll take this experience and come back next worlds better

[@Zenkawa93]

Trey J gam just didn’t know when to push and how to utilize objective like baron. lz had to do barely nothing special

[@tae-whankim9821]

I feel like the reason GAM did so well was all the other teams were used to fighting against META picks, like how a boxer first struggles against a south paw, but once the rythem hits....no more advantage- ex) fanatics comeback against GAM

[@captive-audience]

6:06 Why didnt Jarvan get his Baron??

[@nilsp9426]

In my opinion, EDG had some misleading intuition there. They were sticking closely together against a team with several aoe engage abilities (Flag and Drag + Cataclysm, The Quickness + Grand Entrance, Ambush + Venom Cask). While this is a very good default setting in the late game, this draft looks like an exception to me. Of course I say this with hindsight, but it really struck me how closely clumped they were in the ~10s before the engage, while they had limited vision and no specific need to clump. Most importantly, Janna should have stood further back to ensure security to anyone being engaged while staying safe herself.

[@shiyourin4846]

Nils Petras except would u expect a team to instantly engage on u when u begin putting pressure on midlane when they are expectedly moving around baron? One mistake and split second decisions gave this one to skt and lost it for edg

[@HamletKnight9956]

All the edg blame is retrospective and silly imo. You don't expect a team that behind in gold and base in shambles to engage on you when u are 5 man strong. Most teams only go for engages with number advantage at that stage.

[@paizurishiro2320]

You dont know what will happen in game.

[@rairai6901]

I mean... EDG doesnt expect SKT to engage at 25 mins with 10k gold deficit. Usually at that position, you ate on the defensive.

[@OrangeIce7]

Don't hate on him too much. I'm sure he knows whatever we say now is in hindsight. I think EDG did make a slight mistake in grouping up but also kudos to SKT in planning and punishing them so efficiently.

[@DamienWells]

I think we're forgetting Scout facechecking 1v5 near SKT's raptors. Before that EDG were slowly recovering their lead iirc

[@tranphuongnam1860]

Thanks, iBoy for BM'ing the king

[@acoolnameemm]

5:20 someone explain exactly what is going on, in detail

[@7l0vedkny2]

T1 2021 Let’s go

[@seokjinslaugh1879]

Now tell me how can you hate faker and skt?? When they played this comeback so perfectly

[@mkj1577]

Great video!

[@baharnero3229]

Hope you can do the comeback on Longzhu against GAM from yesterday's game

[@JJBlitz-sp3bi]

Bahar Nero you have to tweet it to him, along with many other people. If you can get a ton of people to do it that would help but I'm not sure if it was good enough as the comeback was later in the game rather than skt's and they also had a chance to buy as well as other factors.

[@virjgabriel2541]

maybe we can see this kind of play again

[@phamcuong9183]

Some casters said EDG should get drake instead of pushing. I don’t think it’s the right decision. EDG has 0 vision, if they all went for drake then the Baron would be gone. Tried to push mid and lured SKT out was the right decision, but Wolf manipulated the fog wall so well, and SKT’s engage was so quick and perfect. That left EDG no chance in that team fight.

[@masta4masta4evah]

the fact that iboy "survived" the initial engage is incredible to me. especially considering the fact he still is a rookie

[@WyrmAbyss1214]

he just pressed R

[@masta4masta4evah]

same could be said about why janna didnt press r right?

[@arveenavarro4124]

Rohit J He was accused a lot of times before for scripting in korean challenger solo queue. You can say that he is that good in dodging and kiting.

[@WyrmAbyss1214]

Rohit J no because Janna was chained cc

[@Skitten]

lol it's amazing how he sees the engage and press R then he flashed faker's ult ._.

[@mall1umxtp749]

0:00 wait wtf how did meiko manage to use heal tho??

[@zhedart1391]

Aight bois. We're back on worlds :**

[@andrescifuentes7089]

As a support main, I get triggered everytime the support gets the focus on a Teamfight, but seeing this comeback a few years before, made me understand that you have to focus the factor that can shatter your comp, rather than "aAaaA FocUZ AdZ, hE hITz toO HaRD aNd MakES Zom DamAge, Mundo goes wherever he pleases"