The Breakfast Club with Zenzele Ndebele : P Ndlovu

Interview with P Ndlovu,former ZIPRA Veterans. #Asakhe

[@jesusistruth5526]

I’m Shona guys and l cannot pretend to feel how painful and traumatising to the victims and their families.However l want to say this is not a tribal issue my fellow Ndebele brothers and sisters ,this was a barbaric and satanic part of our country’s history.I can’t imagine any person doing this to another person who was made in the image of God.Im deeply pained listening to these horrific experiences and only believe that one day the perpetrators of these gruesome injustices will be brought before the courts of law.I personally love my Ndebele brothers and sisters and l look forward to a day when all these things can be discussed openly and the appropriate measures can be taken.lts my hope that one day there can be a meaningful process of healing and reconciliation so that we can properly integrate as Zimbabweans.Victims and their families should be supported and assisted to copy with these traumatic experiences.Its sad the perpetrators are themselves the people in charge and they won’t allow this inevitable process to commence.Im grieving with my Ndebele brothers and sisters in all this.

[@zithamkhonto5960]

I can't hold my tears to hear this man ethi bayathenga ubuyanga empini nxa kubuhlungu lokhu nxa

[@chrisngorima4212]

Point brother

[@dianasklenar553]

It was Mugabe s hatred against his mate Josh and the Ndebele people sorry to tell you mate lots of shona s think they re better than the Ndebele that's why there are so many Ndebele Zimbo s in SA When I heard about it in UK in 198? 3 was it I was absolutely shocked 😭

[@DanielGumbo-st6bm]

A team is here to hear your voice and bring Justice, register with VOLUME LIBERATION MOVEMENT the rest shall be addressed

[@rossitherhodie5659]

As a white Policeman I had Mr Nkomos house in Pelindaba under my Security watch. We were always respectful towards each other and was in fact friends with some of his Family and top men. We witnessed the rage between Zanu and Zapu during the Entumbane time and realised then that had Zipra (Or ZAPU) and Smiths Government joined forces we would have had a different Zimbabwe today. A pity Mr Nkoma chose to support Mugabe as it was only a question if time before old tribal hatreds would emerge and the shona would use their power to take down the Ndebele and any opposition. Mugabes election was won only on a numbers game, thats all, 80% Shona and 20% Ndebele. Doesnt take a genius to have seen that from the begining. A united Government under Nkomo, Muzorewa and Smith would and could have build a Fantastic country for us all. RIP Mr Nkomo, just a pity you couldnt see the Trees for the forest at the time. Zanla forces were absolutly no match at all against the well trained and loyal Rhodesian army (80% Blacks) and the Zipra forces.

[@solacendlovu3058]

I would like to thank you Mr Zenzele Ndebele about your wonderful job that you are doing ..am a strongly follower of your work ... by birth am from Matobo kezi we know all of these things ..once tought in the schools mentioned in this interview DK not Shashane I used to interact with the parents around those areas this thing is so painful such crimes committed aganist humanity yet the perpetrators are walking free and no justice for the victims. .. as people of matebeleland we need healing from such atrocities committed to our parents. .sengathi ungangcina this information as a record so that it can be passed from generation to generations .. sibuhlungu ngabazali bethu abaya empini kodwa namuhlanje badubeka okokucina whilst their perpetrators is enjoying izithuthuku zamandlabo😢😢 my question is kuyaze kubenini sihlupheka singumthwakazi economically were are sidelined ekezi kugcwele amashona uye eMaphisa bayazibusa. Is that the freedom that our forefathers fought for .? Eqinisweni akula future for a Ndebele child look at the schools in matebelend so poor ..yet is the area where the so called "father Zimbabwe" is coming from . Personal ngizubuhlungu. .even the so called warverts they can not afford ukuhambisa abantwababo in better school even within the region . Look at school like Minda Matopo n Cyrene Shona kids agcwelele becouse thina asiarfford they took all of our worlth ...when will all this be over kumbe thina vele sadalelwa ukuhlupheka njengaMandebele 😢😢😢😢

[@surftechengineering1687]

Zenzele you are a gem 💎 for our generation. We will ever appreciate your style of journalism. Your coverage is second to none. You continue to give voice to the voiceless by doing so you're providing solace and an outlet to the traumatised. Thank you soo much

[@user-jf3jq5wx7n]

So you want us to pretend to love people who brutalized our people

[@lindanisibanda9988]

This is painful honestly. Eish !!! Abazali bethu bahlupheka🙆🏽‍♀️

[@jamesncube6912]

The only way forward is the Ndebele's "Mthwakazi" independence. For now we are under the Shona colonial yoke .

[@mhlangamlungisi5108]

This guy is a survivor a true soldier uphunyuka bemphethe. Ezinye zathi ziyamudla. Kwakunzima. Even managing to gain sympathy of the most evil themselves .

[@tellymas4572]

We can't get anywhere as a country with such attrocities having been committed against fellow human beings in that evil manner that even the devil would shudder. Blood speaks - this matter needs to be properly dealt with. The Lord help us

[@jabulanimasukume5575]

Keep up the good work Zenzele

[@nanzengwenya5792]

Wow! Zimbabwean without documents because of the government and none of the MP's are speaking out for these people or even calling amnesty to give birth certificates!!

[@mikesithole4086]

Its time this generation take this up to ICC why are we quite? especially pressure groups and political parties like zapu and mthwakazi.

[@lillycee5054]

Sooo painful. This should be followed up! Justice must be done! Why?? Did they treat citizens in such a abhorrent manner 😭

[@oliversibande2940]

Let me put it in this way there are good Ndebela ppl and there are good shona ppl.

[@giftgumede3505]

So painful narrative, keep up the good work Ndebele noma kungela okungenziwa kodwa nje ukuthi abangangaziyo lababengekho babekwazi ukuthi ma kukhulunywe ngemfazwe kukhulunywe ngani

[@dobbsarthur2182]

Honestly this man is being honest need compansation.

[@ephraimbalenie-nyengera128]

A painful thing that ever happened to Zimbabweans

[@jacobstarwireitaengwa7436]

Thanks Mr Ndebele

[@TheRealKlinky]

Can we honestly say that our people gave their lives for the liberation of our country only for this to happen? If those people could see what has become of this country I think they would be very angry...God bless this man, his family & all those who suffered & continue to suffer to this day. Zimbabwe needs a proper reunification where all of us can appreciate our neighbours & live in peace with all.

[@DanielGumbo-st6bm]

Action is needed ,, let's liberate and compensate fellow citizens,

[@thandoc3934]

at 7:14 I shed a tear...you were brave my uncle.....

[@calebmushaishi9492]

Am hurting inside

[@mandlandlovu4838]

The perpetrators can not determine how the process should go about its a pity that the so could leaders and the amy generals are the master mind behind the killings they cursed their land simply because of hatred if there is anyone who thinks they is a way forward for that country without addressing this issue honestly and arresting the perpetrators and performing cleansing retuals that person must be deceiving him self innocent people will suffer and toil for centuries to come l can assure anyone on that.the problems of Zimbabwe are not only political but they are mainly spiritual.

[@ericnoble3613]

That's marvelous job Zencele

[@sithgasa2063]

Liqiniso leli kaNdlovu kodwa ispiritual healing yesizwe lesizukulwana sikaMzilikazi ngeke ibe ngu Amen lemaverse la esivusana ngawo silale ngawo .Siduhe ngomoya asithintani labakwethu impela ngokholo olweza lempucuko lwathumba lungathathile !!!

[@dee4069]

@Amazing Grace asimona asimhawu amashona

[@admirenyandoro261]

It's worrisome

[@riseupfoundationafrica3779]

This is touching story 😢😢😢

[@thandodube3686]

Zenzele mfowethu ingani inkosi ingaselusela wena ukuze iamashona lawa engakunyamalalisi sifuna usembulele okufihliweyo,,, hambela phela ePlumtree ngoba abadala bahlukunyezwa kuleya ndawo

[@kingsmaphisa624]

siyabonga Zenzele ngomsebenzi omuhle owenzayo

[@clepartonndlovu6438]

Syabonga zenzele ndex

[@andrewmlotshwa4628]

okubuhlungu yikuthi same Hulumende nalowo owayebulala abantu nguye futhi osabulala futhi abanye lanamuhla eish unkulunkulu ngabe uyasizwela ebulale inja leyi okuthwa nguMnangagwa

[@nomamaseko6189]

Kobhibhidla kuze kubenini bo We demand justice & healing

[@ThandoeMlambo-hh5ji]

This is heart breaking and even today the agenda is being pushed ,no reconciliation

[@funizwendlovu7842]

Thank you Zenzele but l must admit at first l ignored the story until a friend sent it on watsup, maybe headlines could be Ndebele massacre by Gukurahundi narrated by P Ndlovu the savivor. I am not by any means trying to tell you how to present it just a suggestion of eye catching headlines. How can there be reconciliation when these horrible things happened to some of us they will always be hatred.

[@deljay121]

I have said the same as well on a different video a few weeks ago. Isihloko Zenzele, isihloko.

[@thulanidngubane8603]

What a shocking freedom story ☹️💔☹️ I can't believe it ☹️

[@MDD620]

Those Gukurahundi soldiers are suffering as well....

[@sunhythen]

😂 comic relief

[@lisancube3177]

😭😭😭uthixo ukhona namuhla ilizwe ngelabo amaNdebele awaqatshwa

[@politendlovu2177]

Painful madoda let's vote them out of power

[@anonymous.marshall]

The Gukurahundi debacle can not be resolved unless it first manifestation is addressed...Mzilikazi came to Zimbabwe and killed circa 200,000 - 350,000 Shonas and some of them thrown into Chinhoyi caves pool,cattle was pillaged, women and children were abducted and force assimilated into the "Mthwakazi" kingdom...all Shona families are aware of these atrocities through history as it is passed by their families...actually the coming of the Pioneer Column brought a temporary reprieve of slaughter to Shonas who by then didn't have a unified Administration!I understand the Gukurahundi experience but if we need lasting peace in Zimbabwe all atrocities need to be addressed...it seems the Shona atrocities from (Mzilikazi and Lobengula) MaDzviti have healed over time but still waters run deep...its only through wisdom that these inter generational atrocities will be addressed otherwise this is bound to repeat again,MARK MY WORDS!

[@mosessinoia4667]

True

[@mlamulindlovumlamulindlovu2250]

They have never been a solid evidence regarding that Mzilikazi and killing of shonas and remember gugurahundi was never they were fighting unarmed people who some of them fought for this country u can't compare 😢😢

[@anonymous.marshall]

@@mlamulindlovumlamulindlovu2250Its well documented,you forget that they were white missionaries who were starting to move into the territory and wrote everything down.We have oral traditions of everything that Mzilikazi and Lobengula did against Shona people

[@janmalapela5082]

I remember my uncle Ngala who was abducted to Bhalagwe tortured and then released. They followed him to Gwanda South .This time they abducted him and then killed him . His last words were I have had enough, kill me .

[@TeejtheDeej]

Cry my Zimbabwe🇿🇼

[@christinasibanda8932]

Yah ,kubuhlungu lokhu

[@user-ck3hz7dp3g]

I am hoping that Mel Gibson will buy copyright of your videos, and the others who have witnesses' interviews, then make a movie from it. International awareness would be the first and best step to get real help for those wounded souls. Silencing the matter is a perpetuation of the assault and genocide. Movies like Sarafina helped the world mourn with black South Africans, and gave them the emotional support and help they needed. Mel Gibson's movie would capture every intricate detail of the pain and suffering just as he did with: The Passion of the Christ.

[@NMagutshwa-zz1vd]

Yaa its very painful yaz but one day bazozisola ngesenzo abasenza ematebeleland ayingeke iphele kanjalo nje never!

[@bongadube4199]

Kubuhlungu sibili baba sikhala kanye lawe,lawe mfoka Ndebele mkhulu lomsebenzi owenzayo ungakhathali mfowethu

[@njabulobhebhe7145]

This is so payn😭😭

[@tloukhumo1329]

Very pain full

[@lessenncube1433]

I shona yinja asonto yokuzwelwa

[@olinancube5644]

Kodwa Jesu

[@user-yy2rm9hy9z]

This story is so sad nkosi yami jehovah

[@mandykheswa5014]

😭😭akukhulumeki lokhu kubuhlungu

[@brianncube3365]

My question is ,where are they now ,meaning the perpetrators. When listening to these stories being told do they regret their actions, are they sleeping at night. I know some have passed on, but those who are still alive do they ever reflect back.??

[@lalasworld4241]

Where are the perpetrators? They are the once running the country now,look around into higher offices, and then tell me what you see,because back then,they used violence,now they using economy to starve the citizens!

[@petronellsifiso7593]

This is painful

[@zieman78]

Eish bntu

[@stivo9730]

This is shocking, depressing, and infuriating all at the same time. Especially the fact that those responsible have never been brought to book and the victims, survivors, their children and affected communities have never received justice or any form of restitution or compensation... as if anything could ever compensate for this kind of evil nonsense. Something must be done. Something.

[@mxolisingwenya3247]

Uzwe isifebe samashona sisithi kwedlula asiykeni inzondo singamandebele ngento ebuhlungu kangaka

[@thulanidngubane8603]

Bob Marley said, 'you may never know who the true revolutionary is' he sat that in his first visit to Zimbabwe in 1980. . . Zimbabwe never got Independence. Still under Ian Smith ☹️

[@tererayiwakasemwa8264]

Ahhh

[@cleopaschama711]

😪😓😢😥

[@ozziendlovu526]

into abayenza inhlupheko bazoyibona ngamehlo

[@mollyndlovu328]

Asazi shuwa. Revenge belongs Yahshua

[@msolinagolide7107]

Uthole o sisi bethu bekhombe amashona

[@NMagutshwa-zz1vd]

nam ngiyinyanya kabi leyonto uyaz

[@prettymoyo9806]

Kubuhlungu kakhulu bantu

[@onalinancube9945]

Indeed trauma healing is needed

[@Bat-Wing]

God is mighty in battle, one day the perpetrators of these heinous crimes will pay!!!

[@lamecknicodemusmawelankomo2724]

Ngithanda indlela okhuluma ngayo ulimi lwethu

[@trustlesson3779]

Yazi nxa ngisizwa lendaba ekhulunywa ngubaba lowu ngifikelwa zinyembezi😭😭😭😭😭Shona ngeke safa sathelana amanzi shem

[@ozziendlovu526]

umonakalo owenziwa ilabantu kunzima lokhu kdwa besengimangaliswa ngabantu abafelwa yizihlobo zabo kdwa uthole bekhona abayithandayo i zanu pf shame only god knows

[@user-jx6rf8lu6h]

Very Painful ZANU Pf Killed More People Than Rhodesian s Sekeramayi Mnangagwa Perence Shiri Dominic Chinhengo aka Constaine Chiwenga Should Clarify This Gukurahundi Issue.....Their Boss Mugabe Now Is Gone It's Disheartening

[@harrietndlovu6531]

That what happens when you are Ndebele they try by all means to spite and frame you.

[@lewisndlovu4362]

It will be difficult to solve the issue of gukurahundi at the moment with the alleged perpetrators holding on to power.The truth is that there must be a way forward.If Mnangagwa had a heart he would himself take all his friends that were behind the atrocities and go meet the people at Bhalagwe in a big meeting to listen to what the people believe can be the solution to this.His ignorance will never work here.He has got the chance to fix this while he is in power.The people need closure.Kuyaze kube nini kanti?The people who are talking here are the few lucky survivors.Thousands died in the hands of gukurahundi.Bhalagwe was the largest concentration camp that saw Ndebele people being brought from as far as Tsholotsho and Lupane just to be tortured and eventually killed because someone had decided to make Zimbabwe a one party state.He did kill a lot but he couldn't finish us.We are those kids who were grabbed and thrown away from our parents in their journey to be killed and we will never forget.Zimbabweans in the name of fifth brigade came all the way from the east of the country just to kill our parents in the west.We will never forget.

[@mgcinimalinga7097]

The problem our army listening too much to sellout called nkomo and disarmy zipra nkomo was mapara

[@solacendlovu3058]

Before you say Nkomo was mampara I would like you to read the book " the story of my life" by Dr joshua mqabuko Nkomo ..then put your self in his shoes

[@dee4069]

UMqabuko wenza ayekwanelisa, wayothini ekhonjwe ngombhobho ekhanda kuthiwa wenqaba ukuvuma ukubuswa ngamashona kophela iNdebele lonke, asingaxabani ngokwethu sqondane lesitha ngqo, isitha kulishona.

[@buthozncube4893]

Mhloniphe lowo muntu baba uNkomo he was a true leader he got all powers to fight but wacabanga njemkhokheli olengqondo ukuthi abantu bayefa futhi just for 1 stupid person he ended saying let's unit so that kungachitheki gazi remember nkomo had followers nationwide lasemashonaland so yena bekungayenzi ukuthi ayebulala abantu for umgabe

[@mandlandlovu2311]

jha nhe kubuhlungu lokho

[@njabulobhebhe7145]

Zenzenzele mfowethu ungabuyeli muva ngalomsebenzi kozekufuke laphokufanele kufike khona

[@petronellsifiso7593]

uxola njani nxa kunje

[@dee4069]

Soxola kanjani lemdidi ingavumi ubuthakathi bayo bafowethu

[@lungisanikhuya2974]

Akukho okucashile okungayi kuvela

[@qhawehakwane9176]

amen

[@trustpakaipagumbu5276]

Unfortunately zanu pf won't adress this incidents they will kill more

[@freedomfreedom2464]

Kodwa iqiniso ngelith iZimbabwe ngek ize ilunge manje bcz mangab umamel kahle le story skalobab uNdlovu, lining igazi elichithekile eZimbabwe, mina nje kodw into enghlanganisa neShona ayikho guys labant bahlukmeze obaba bethu nabokhulu bethu, angfune namngane oliSHONA nje akukhathalekile ukth ynhloboni aslong kuHwereza nje FOKOF lana amakwerekwere nje lawo

[@yolandandlovu3214]

Didn't he get 50k like the others

[@Patrick-sk5jn]

psalms 41

[@MichaelNcube-cj3hh]

Yikho izulu lingasani

[@mululekimalingile64]

Uyazi into engizwisa ubuhlungu yikhuthi base khona abantu endaweni zonalezo abavotela i zanu kant yini bathu bakhithi

[@dee4069]

Yikwesaba, yilokho okwakufiswa ngumgabe lezanu yakhe, kodwa ke Maqhawe ka Mzilikazi, Lobengula nayimbizo, asvukeni isitha sesixwale saqhela

[@nhlanganisomkweub9216]

🤔🤔😭😭😭😭😭

[@khumbue5976]

The Bible says ngizakwehlisela ububi baboyihlo kusizukulwane sesibili lelesithathu

[@trustmncube553]

ujehova ulibhekile lonke elabulala abantu bakhe lonke mashona lizotsha ngesihluku senu

[@joconiaeleck1345]

I have come to realize that international law is selective depending on global political interests. The British government has proven to be complicit on the 5th Brigade Gukurahundi genocide in Matebeleland

[@mtho03]

And the Shona expect us to live with them after this?

[@sylvestert7490]

There are Shonas who did not participate. But if hating them all is okay with you, proceed and assume you will have victory that way

[@mtho03]

Sylvester T it’s not about hating them but them accepting what happened and come to the table of reconciliation as a nation. You might not have done it yourself but the roof of hating Ndebeles is still in some of you Shona people. Some don’t believe it happened even after 000’s of testimonies from people who lost their loved ones.

[@dee4069]

@@sylvestert7490 is that all you can say ngempela?

[@jesusistruth5526]

mtho03 these are painful experiences for any normal human being.Im Shona and l can’t imagine how someone can do this to another human being.The bottom line is this genocide happened and l think it’s not a tribal thing.I know there is no easy way of correcting this because so many lives were lost but l believe if there was a platform where these issues could be discussed openly it will be a beginning for meaningful healing and reconciliation.lts unfortunate that the perpetrators are in authority and they cannot deal with the issue.l believe we all need each other as Zimbabweans to deal with this issue.Don’t forget not all Shonas were involved in this barbaric practice.

[@siyabulelamlungwana8181]

@SYLVESTER. Im from eastern cape (SA)You participate. I can not stand you people. Who does that you other human.

[@josphatkanengoni1609]

what of the raids that ndebele ancestors did in mashonaland i dnt hear anyone talking about them

[@siyabulelamlungwana8181]

@Josphat Kanengoni, tell me what ,I'm from south africa eastern cape. Please tell what happened. I know a bit about lobhengula and mzilikazi..PLEASE DO NOT COME HERE TELL ME ABOUT THAT FAKE TSHONA HISTORY WE TOLD ABOUT. GIVE FACTS TSHONA.

[@mhlangamlungisi5108]

xa ugul' inhloko wena mntanesifebe.

[@fulcrumpith1184]

Ask Mzilikazi Khumalo and Mbuya Nehanda, here they are dealing with matters and crimes committed by criminals who are alive, your leaders in zanu.

[@thulanisimelane1328]

Futsek

[@trustlesson3779]

Wena golo lenja are you mad

[@dee4069]

Zobohla manyosi

[@elijahbhebhe5463]

Hayi kodwa ubaba bethu kwakufanele befebezamile ngabe balwa babesifa kwakufana izipra yayiqinile kule Zinja lezi

[@mzomwelase2477]

I hate Shona people xem

[@mosessinoia4667]

Thats tribalism now...coz no one of our generation was there by that time..wat about the thousands of shona people who was massacred during the Muzilikaz error?

[@bekisto82]

Nkomo should have mobilized his comrades and started a civil war.. He should have formed a coalition with Ian Smith and fight Mugabe

[@Lhiza_P]

So they use to eat human meat Jesus Christ

[@evelynsibanda9635]

As much as this is sad I feel like this guy was a sellout

[@madlenyazikode1061]

Uyinja

[@ShirleyMasurik-cp4gb]

You were better under Ian Smith.

[@trustlesson3779]

Yazi nxa ngisizwa lendaba ekhulunywa ngubaba lowu ngifikelwa zinyembezi😭😭😭😭😭Shona ngeke safa sathelelana amanzi shem

[@sunhythen]

You are wrong,mfowethu. You should direct your hate towards the government, not towards a tribe, otherwise we would prove to be just like them.

[@trustlesson3779]

Ndoda nxa ulishona suka lapho impendulo yakho ngeyeshona fusek

[@trustlesson3779]

Tell who is government in Zimbabwe????

[@trustlesson3779]

I mean who is government tell me

[@trustlesson3779]

I mean who is government tell me