The brilliant electric car with one BIG problem | Kia EV9

[@christians.8943]

Really like that you are discussing the downsides of cars getting bigger and bigger. I can recommend the channel "Not Just Bikes" for anyone who wants to learn more about city design, traffic, car dependency, etc.

[@Alessandro---]

Not Just Bikes is a great channel, it's also part of the Nebula family.

[@JanMorsø]

Absolutely agree, superb channel.

[@kevinmcgrane4279]

@@christians.8943 Let me be #3 to recommend “Not Just Bikes”.

[@theunknownunknowns256]

Cities designed by oil companies in the early 1900's, designed to maximise car use. Worst thing about that horrible country is the export of cultural colonialism.

[@TheDoubleBee]

I can hear Jason from NJB scoffing at this land yacht

[@Sodacake]

On the flip side, I'm looking forward to when you eventually review the Hyundai Inster!

[@Alessandro---]

In-ster, 👍In-ster, 👍In-ster, 👍

[@DwainDwight]

yes!!

[@DD-xx8wh]

Kia really hit a home run with the EV 9 we tried them all and could not find a better EV for our needs...it's just about perfect for us!

[@ziploc2000]

We got a Honda Odyssey minivan back in 2012 when our first kid was born and we needed to load her into the vehicle in her carrycot and put a stroller in the back. This EV9 is the modern EV equivalent, without sliding doors, but also 5" shorter.

[@rajmadhure]

Just bought an EV9 a few months ago. Love it. Agree that LA is tough. When you grow up here, you learn to adjust your schedule for the traffic. Love that you were in Pasadena!

[@ZekeBriarcliff]

I'm fully on board with what you're saying about big cars and urban planning. However, at least these big-ass cars are getting loads of cameras and sensors to detect cyclists, pedestrians, and animals, etc.

[@Kitofthearts]

That's all gravy

[@petesig93]

@@Kitofthearts maybe you have not driven one? I have the 5-star ANCAP safety rating Hyundai Ioniq 6 and I can assure you, it really DOES alert me to any approaching bicycle rider or pedestrian. It even applies the brakes in slow-speed and parking area settings if I was to ignore its warnings.

[@mrjonnyjones]

My biggest takeaway from this: LA doesn't have sidewalks for the kids to walk home on?... 😳

[@ziploc2000]

Mostly they'd go on a school bus, or the parents would drive them. I live in Eugene, Oregon, and we have different neighborhoods built at different times. I live in a section (aka subdivision) built in the 1990s, and we have sidewalks with grass verges and trees. Not far away there are areas with sidewalks but no verges or roadside trees, and some areas built in the 50s and 60s have no sidewalks at all, the property front lawns run right to the tarmac. I guess in those days they assumed nobody would ever walk anywhere from their house.

[@mrjonnyjones]

@@ziploc2000 Thanks for the info. That's actually really interesting, I'm in the UK and there's sidewalks (pavements) everywhere... they're just part of society, no matter when each area was constructed. Happy New Year 🙂

[@aussieideasman8498]

Unfortunately you could see them while she was saying it.

[@zapfanzapfan]

I was in upstate NY for a while. There was no sidewalk to walk from the supermarket over to the Burger King... and we were alone eating there indoors, it was just assumed people would drive from the parking lot over to the drive through...

[@mrjonnyjones]

@@aussieideasman8498 Depends on the area, apparently 😅

[@viffer94]

Ahh December in L.A. Looks like perfect bicycle riding weather. Southern California has quite a few great hidden roads and trails to go riding on if you want to get out of that cage.

[@joejuan5022]

LA native here, you're not wrong 🤷🏻 So happy you're here, welcome.

[@TheEulerID]

Between 2010 and 2022, the USA saw a 77% increase in pedestrian deaths. Let that sink in. There were 7,522 pedestrians killed in the USA in 2022, which if we correct for population differences would be equivalent to 1,500 pedestrians being killed in the UK annually. That is approaching four times the rate in the UK, and our record is not great by the best European standards.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Traffic deaths in general is increasing in the US, while Norway (to take a European example) is now back down to 1940s levels of traffic fatalities.

[@HiruS22]

I used to travel to the USA quite often for work and one thing I did notice is that driving standards there are really, really bad. I don’t know whether their training/examinations are low grade or whether they have a big problem with unlicenced drivers but it’s scarily bad, even compared to the UK. It was quite normal for on the freeway for vehicles to wobble across the lines dividing the lanes without looking, and it seems normal for pickup trucks to cut across the dividing line on left hand bends, as if they didn’t dare turn the steering wheel enough so just turned early

[@jackweta]

Higher speeds kill pedestrians

[@duncancarr7822]

I've spent 5+ years without a car or motorcycle, clocking up 10,000 miles on a Onewheel (Eilis knows all about these) and use maybe a battery of electricity a day. The battery is 160w, so that's about 4 pence. Daily Cost: ~4 pence / Monthly Cost: ~£1.19 / Annual Cost: ~£14.54. Yep, less than £15 in a year. How about that for going green? And I am breaking the law! I have also had hundreds of people have a go on it where I live, in Wallingford, Oxfordshire. I have also never received a complaint and huge numbers of people have had so much fun having a go. And the car Eilis is driving is the other end of the spectrum when it comes to going green. When we are all apparently so aware of what we are doing to the planet, why am I the one who could potentially get into trouble?

[@davidlloyd1526]

Do you have insurance?

[@Alessandro---]

When I worked in Versailles, a lot of my colleagues (including the CEO) were last-mileing with a monowheel. The CEO had to stop because he injured himself by missing a kerb while carrying pizzas. Interestingly, all of them were considering my Xiaomi scooter (my “company vehicle”) more dangerous than their monowheels.

[@HiruS22]

Because you’re riding a vehicle legally classed as a motorcycle without insurance, MOT or tax? Just a guess

[@duncancarr7822]

@@HiruS22 It's only got 1 wheel. How could it be classed as a motorcycle?

[@Alessandro---]

@@duncancarr7822 that would be way too simple…

[@aussieideasman8498]

"You can walk a mile and really not get that far". Classic. Be sure to audition for movies at Hollywood while in LA.

[@DIY_corner]

You should try the little brother, the EV3...you will love it !!!

[@Alessandro---]

She did … kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHybap-QbcSBos0si=T-JUWBdmKIpesDaP

[@gani2an1]

Wait until you have 3 kids and a dog. Then you will see this car differently

[@Noah_E]

Yep. I wish it didn't look like a tipped refrigerator. With a 10 and 14 y/o and two large foster hounds I need a bigger vehicle, but even the best (Grand Highlander hybrid) struggles to get 30 mpg. Anything bigger gets substantially more expensive and less efficient

[@petesig93]

US is SO car-centric and their speed limits reflect that. In Victoria, Australia our urban default speed limit is 50kmh ie. 25mph (mostly on residential streets) however school zones at pick-up times is 40kmh and many urban shopping strips in the inner suburbs are also 40kmh, with a strong push now for a 30kmh (20mph) limit. 50mph (80kmh) on residential streets is just crazy; nothing short of 'motorist-abuse' towards bicycle riders and pedestrians.

[@ziploc2000]

I was surprised to discover that this is about 5" shorter than our 2010 Honda Odyssey minivan, and less than 1" wider. We got the minivan in 2012 when it became too difficult to load a baby in car seat into the back of a smaller car - just leaning over while carrying the bay in its "cradle" was too much for our backs. We could also load the stroller (perambulator for the Brits) in the back of the minivan, which we also had trouble loading into a smaller vehicle. There is a time in a family's life when you need to move two parents, 2-3 kids, maybe grandparents too, and being in one vehicle is a great help. What I'd love to see is a Kia EV 9, 6 and 3 all reviewed together in parallel, to show the size differences. If I were buying one of these now it's be the EV3, as the kids can load themselves now they're older, and the grandparents aren't going to visit anymore.

[@dxg999]

Gotten, gotten, gotten. Yup, we're in the States.

[@stevenbarrett7648]

Not just me then ! ☺

[@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589]

BECOME!

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 Some of those times she could have left the word out.

[@mark9idea886]

Excelent first video of the year! 👍

[@CB-hb1jv]

I have the EV9 WIND and was just rear ended after a Tesla made a sudden stop in from me going about 50 miles an hour. The anti collision system worked like it should in a truly amazing and superb performance. Unfortunately the guy behind me wasn't driving a car that's comparable and rear ended me

[@paulgroth3345]

Nice to see you're on the western side of the pond

[@kevinmcgrane4279]

Thank you for this video. No doubt, the KIA is an excellent EV, yet you rightly address its reason for being a monster of a vehicle: urban design. LA is a perfect example of urban areas designed for automobiles - a car culture that dominates every decision regarding urban life. Streets, schools, businesses, grocery, et al. The auto is a “second home” in the States anymore. There’s a growing movement to push back, creating car-free areas and tolls to dissuade people from driving into downtown areas, Manhattan being the most recent example. There is an increasing demand for more bike-friendly and pedestrian-friendly area in the U.S., like the “15 minute city” concept, and it’s happening, but slowly. Welcome to the States, btw!

[@ziploc2000]

The reason the EV 9 is so big is that if you have a big family you need a big vehicle to carry them in. What I'm finding frustrating is that US manufacturers are doing away with small cars all round. While I see small cars still being driven everywhere, like the NIssan Micra, Honda Fit, For Focus, or Chevrolet Spark, you can't buy one new anymore, they just stopped making them.

[@mstreich]

The size of roads in the UK (as I experienced in Cornwall) definitely suggests cars that should be 4’ wide. 😀 1:31

[@JanMorsø]

US: "nothing exceeds like excess", delicious conspicuous consumption, folk get judges if they _don't_ consume.

[@JanMorsø]

...I like the car, tho', as a serial coach owner

[@adriannathaniel4015]

12v issue solved?

[@Alessandro---]

@@adriannathaniel4015 were you looking for a Lexus user group?

[@HabitualFixation]

Prices tumbling like a Hippo off a cliff top atm which is nice. Thanks Eilish. XoX

[@boswellwhanau]

A cousin of mine in Hawaii put it plainly, the bigger the vehicle the higher the chance of survival in a crash 😱😱😱

[@Kitofthearts]

but surely at at some point you have to be aware & acknowledge that the amount of unnatural materials, aggression and mining processes required, to extract these metals from earth is massive?

[@bikeforever2016]

Only for those on the inside.

[@boswellwhanau]

@@bikeforever2016 thats the whole point of the vehicle "arms race" them Americans live in.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Shows this time so I'll try again: "You can walk a mile and not get that far", lol - classic. Be sure to audition at Hollywood.

[@BuffetBadger]

What car do you drive?

[@Alessandro---]

@@BuffetBadger She’s based in London so … she doesn’t. In London a car is a hindrance, most apartments don’t have off-street parking and driving in a low emissions zone attracts crippling fees. So like the great Electrohead that she is, E-lish commutes by electric bicycles and public transport.

[@BuffetBadger]

@ Thanks for that info! Must have a bicycle at least!

[@LimPu]

If you fold the backseats of the EV3, I can comfortably sleep in there. With this one, you only need ot fold the back ones....and you still got a five seater...The USA is so freakishly lost.

[@paulmeyers42]

Where's the conflict? It looks like a great option for larger families who want an EV.

[@timscott3027]

The conflict is down to it being a great family car for 5, 6 or 7 but will often end up being bought by a mum to take her 2 small kids around. When the truth is any small hatchback from the last 20 years would do the same job. Its ridiculous what's happened with cars in the us and we don't want to see the same thing happen over here in the UK.

[@Kitofthearts]

@@timscott3027 I am leaving the UK for this very reason. Plus LA is sunnier & the people are more open minded.

[@13ccasto]

This is the best anti-car car review I've seen 🎉

[@OldMan_PJ]

The speeds in my residential area of California are 45 MPH on cross streets and 55MPH on main streets. It only gets down to 25MPH in front of schools. There are sidewalks by the schools but people still line up to pick up kids in cars due to the distance from home. Europeans really don't understand the scale of the US.

[@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589]

norr the stupid urban design decisions made from the 1930s onwards.

[@ahoog69]

Indeed, vehicles have become excessively large. All automakers must reconsider their stance on this issue and develop more compact designs. Although Rivian initially focused on pickup trucks and SUVs, they are now in the process of introducing a reasonably sized hatchback. Ford, GM, and Stellantis should follow suit.

[@noelfezza]

Fantastic review and thought provoking. Can't escape fact I'm in love with her though 😄😜

[@evahsia]

The proper comparison in the US is with an equivalent size (or bigger) car such as a Suburban or Expedition, in which case the EV9 is the economic and efficient choice. KIA (Hyundai) provides a nice range of options. It is unrealistic for them to completely ignore the 6-7-seater market. Also, LA is not typical of America. Or even California. Most of America doesn't have near the traffic problems.

[@InquisitiveBaldMan]

If you just made this killer kia stationary, it couldnt hurt anyone.... Soooo buy this as your house instead of your transport. Thats realistically the future for the next generation anyway.

[@jackweta]

how does it compare to a G wagon Audi RS6 Range Rover Rolls Royce size wise?

[@Alessandro---]

I'm having an issue streaming the video, I've already liked it but I'll try watching it later.

[@Alessandro---]

Streaming Issue solved. E-lish, as usual you make some excellent points- the USA have a very unhealthy relationship with their cars. Example: I’m Italian, my first dream in life has been to learn to drive. When I reached 16 I knew everything there was to know about cars, driving, basic maintenance and repairs, and of course driving meant clutch and gears (automatics were considered “special needs”). My American friends? Couldn’t give a hoot! Their cars were huge but inefficient and underpowered (with a few exceptions), handled like boats and had mpg in single digits. The full-size cars were replaced by the minivan, hardly an aspirational vehicle, while my Belgian girlfriend was driving’s Peugeot 205 GT and her mum a BMW320i, yum! So in a way, I’d rather see a fleet of EV9 than a gaggle of Escalade !

[@goingoutotheparty1]

It's great that you flew over here in a Jet plane to show us that momma

[@sarabeth8050]

The sad truth is that the EV9 is far from big for a US vehicle. It is classified as a mid-sized SUV. The full sized pick up trucks (lorries) that are by far the best selling vehicles (the vast majority are purchased as personal vehicles, not for work) and popular full sized SUVs are much, much bigger than the EV9. If you drove the EV9 in Texas, you'd be dwarfed by far larger vehicles all around you. That is just insane.

[@michaellupton1593]

Looks a great car, too big for my needs.. I suppose you have to compare it against similar sized behemoths. On that basis it appears a good option. Not sure why you are driving it if you don’t consider it a worthy transport option. I agree with your views on living cities and walkable/cycle safe routes. I think it’s reasonable to assume that the buyer of such vehicles don’t cycle to work very often.. just a guess. What was attractive about a trip to California in the middle of a UK winter ?😉

[@Molishious]

What I really want is an EV 5 but that’s not coming to the US. If someone really wants a 3 row SUV I think this is the best option in the price range. While this is a large EV, it’s not a particularly large car by American standards. The top selling vehicle in America is the Ford F series pickups and the shortest version is a foot longer than the EV 9. The EV 9 is only about an inch and a half longer than a 2024 Honda Accord.

[@bengt_axle]

In many cases parents drive their kids to school because they can. They like to do so, because they think it is "safer" for their kids to be in a large SUV, compared to walking to a bus stop and waiting 10-15 minutes for a bus. America is all about individualism. If you can afford a larger SUV, you buy it because it is safer and more comfortable for your kids. That it creates congestion and pollution and greater traffic injury risks for pedestrians is not the primary concern. In very wealthy districts there's even a "school pickup" vibe or fashion style for parents, which includes a large luxury SUV. If you asked parents in these districts if they want better bus service or larger roads and parking lots for them to pick up kids, they will say the latter.

[@RodneyCurtis]

I COMPLETELY agree with your cognitive dissonance about the EV9. I've driven it a couple times here in the U.S. and I love the feel of the acceleration along with the quality of its build. But it's just too dang big (and expensive). It is exciting to drive, almost overwhelming. But I ended up purchasing a much smaller EV (and a used one at that).

[@AndroidAndr3w]

If I would have the money to get one, I definately would buy one for camping.

[@bubandit06]

Is the EV5 under some sort of press embargo?😂 We're waiting for the scaled down EV9 copy, and Kia have repeatedly said it's being released in the UK, yet you can't find a single UK outlet talking about it. There were even vids for the Shanghai motor show where every KIA EV was mentioned, excluding the EV5. What on earth is going on?

[@aussieideasman8498]

There's now an EV3 that's better for the UK.

[@bubandit06]

@aussieideasman8498 while the EV9 is huge, the EV3 isn't much bigger than the E-Niro, and the EV5 should be pretty much Sportage sized

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@bubandit06 So the EV3 is a good fit for the UK. In 2016 I drove around the UK in a leased Peugeot 2008 and I wouldn't want anything Sportage sized. Most of our driveways are wider than your B roads, lol.

[@adrianupnorth]

Real life USA E. Most Brits don't get out of the Florida safe zone to see it. Thats a book from a few years ago, worth a read. I've seen the car and its too big for the UK. I sold a large estate car last year as I couldn't park it anywhere. Granted, I have had to take less stuff with me but that is probably better too.

[@anthonyc8499]

EV9 is great and all, but the commentary about the line of cars to pickup kids just points to the insanity of some parts of America. My neighborhood has sidewalks and the vast majority of kids walk or ride their bikes to school. I cant imagine living in a place where kids can’t even walk to school.

[@leonardoruizmendiola]

Good Review

[@HiruS22]

Really impressed at how you turn out these slick videos while being a one woman band.

[@Kitofthearts]

@@HiruS22 thanks for the prompt!

[@cornerliston]

Most fun to see are men with large pickup trucks and most likely no other need for it than being an oversized vehicle.

[@NxreY-b1h]

Thanks for the analysis! Could you help me with something unrelated: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?

[@zapfanzapfan]

Well, if it replaces large diesel SUVs that would be a massive benefit. That long line of cars next to a school just sitting there with engines turning over... what a waste...

[@acidbran]

5:30 Welcome to America !

[@karlInSanDiego]

Glad you led with the danger/safety issue of 3 row SUVs. I was honestly disappointed you came all the way here to cover it. We need to shun these mega SUVs. All cars are unsustainable, especially under absolutely necessary zero carbon policies, and the larger they are the greater the production and operating emissions. Please say no to big EVs, everyone, and please let this be your last SUV review, Eilis. We desperately need micromobility in every corner of the world, not more or bigger cars.

[@bobchr0]

Topic that needs to be discussed? LA is big. I was duped I thought it was a car review.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

Are we solving problems with 21st Century Transport with EV's, or are we just saving the Automobile Industry? We really have to look at diversifying urban planning. That school line, and 40 minutes to get out of a carpark is ridiculous.

[@dougcox835]

There is a fundamental problem with pedestrian cities. In order to be accessible to pedestrians (no cars at all) ALL services would need to be nearby, walking distance. This includes all shops and your place of employment. Of course this is possible but it would require a really dense population which nobody wants or for ALL services to be repeated every mile or two which is just not practical. Just thinking of the basics, a Walmart (or other such store), grocery store, hardware store, miscellaneous specialty shops, schools. Basically it would require all shops to be like the corner convenience store and on every couple of blocks. And what about getting your stuff home from the shops? Sure you can carry small bags but what about a week's groceries for a family of 6 or something like that? Not practical without a car. And if you argue that delivery vehicles could do it then you're right back to having cars but someone else owns it.

[@markbennett6658]

Not if the delivery vehicle is multi drop. Better to have one car doing lots of deliveries than lots of them going to make individual collections?

[@timscott3027]

It is totally possible to carry a full week's shop for a small family on a cargo bike. I take 4 large bags on mine. Obviously it depends on a family by family basis if it will work or not. But your right in the sense that it's not really 100 percent possible to have everything you need within walking distance of your home, but it is possible to have most. And also buses and bikes do exist. Most things for me are within a half an hour ride on my ebike. We still use a car when we need to, but try to use it as little as possible. I would personally love to see more pedestrianisation of my city but it's not one or the other. Cars shouldn't be driving next to heavily pedestrianised areas, and ideally bike lanes should be built separately to car lanes too.

[@dougcox835]

@@timscott3027 All I know is that I use a car and frequently I wish I had a truck. Sheets of plywood or long lumber are really hard to carry in a car. Forget about a bicycle. And frequently I need to go across town to some store that's the only place in town that has that item. To make it pedestrian those sort of stores would need to be a chain. Just so that people can walk to the places? Not very efficient. Things are the way they are today due to economics rather than some dream of a bucolic countryside. It depends on where you live and what you do as to what sort of environment works best. I have a memory of when I was in the Navy and had no car and took busses. I absolutely hated the bus. I bought a small TV for the ship at the Target in town and the only way I had to bring it back was the buss and that was ridiculous. You could argue that I could take a cab or somehow have it delivered but that is still using a car of some type so no savings there. I really do not understand the attraction of being able to live everything in your life within walking distance.

[@timscott3027]

@@dougcox835 I'm not saying that people that go out and buy timber or other building materials should be using the bus or bike, it's not practical. But most people don't do that regularly, at least not here. But everywhere is different and like you say different people different environments etc. I don't think anyone that lives in reality is proposing that entire cities should be pedestrianised. But I do think cars should be kept away from heavily pedestrian areas for safety and clean air reasons. It's also a lot nicer to walk around away from cars, with outside tables in summer etc. But not hardware stores or furniture etc anything large and bulky is not practical, unless they offer delivery.

[@stephenwensley]

Love the cyclist reviews behemoth from a living with it approach. We think of a car like that as huge, the Americans seem to consider it a mid size SUV. Personally I’d choose a VW Buzz

[@bordersw1239]

It’s not far off double the weight of my diesel 7 seater, that’s a little shocking!

[@TassieEV]

I agree with you Eilis, it's all about Urban Design and many people don't have big families they just own them to show off like the RAM truck owners here in Australia mostly men who are heavily compensating for a fragile ego and small anatomical feature. The world really needs better urban design, look at the Netherlands for example and better public transport looking at Europe and Asia(China/Japan/Korea as a few examples). As a cyclist getting hit by any of these large vehicles isn't an injury anymore like it was say even 20yrs ago it's death now so are these vehicles then weapons. Kids walking home on their own would get the Karen's & Keith's phoning the child protection authorities to take them away from the parents, really stupid attitude in the US over this, can't have kids learning to be independent at all no idea what happened I'm sure a sociologist may know.

[@Noah_E]

If she thinks that humongous she should drive a HD truck. My tree farm's F350 makes the EV9 look small

[@BillyGold007]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Hope you have a blessed 2025 Eilis!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@dave3gan]

With EVs if you want more range you tend to need a bigger car for a bigger battery

[@ursjungo5896]

Bearing in mind that the EV9 is available in the UK right now, why was it necessary to fly to California to review said car? Kind of ironic for an ebike and eV-focused channel to contribute to global warming unnecessarily.

[@aussieideasman8498]

First comment now shows up, so YT has some issues.

[@noelward9579]

A 10+ min video telling you the car is big.

[@stevecagle8002]

So looks like a great car.. I did not hear one negative thing that applies to me. I would buy this car and yes it would be just for me.. I'm not a tree hugger, I just like the technology.

[@jonevansauthor]

Not only are they more dangerous when they hit pedestrians, but they're more likely to do so. Pickups are even worse than SUVS but they're both incredibly bad. The US statistics are incredibly bad for that but of course all they care about is 'my family are safe in my big car'. They don't seem to get their family are less safe because all the cars are too big, and they're more likely to get run over. The place is far more dangerous than Germany which has a terrible record for a European country.

[@Unknown_泰奥]

Other audio language are terrible..

[@adamsidebottom5023]

Clearly you can't consume your way to saving the planet

[@hvulin]

if you need it you need it, otherwise get something smaller... US is US and that wont change anytime soon...

[@lavatr8322]

But why are you looking cute? Is it the LA air?

[@ohrosberg]

I'm not sure whether your personal dislike for big cars has a place in this video. This car isn't for a single woman in her 20's in London. When my kids were young, and I live rurally in Norway, I had a Ford Econoline E350 to have enough space for all of them plus luggage. That car is aimed at such an audience and target group, and should be tested from that perspective. Did you at all look for Isofix mounts, which seats have them and which ones have not? For a family with small kids that's really important. Did you test the practicality of loading in a kid in a car seat in the last row at all? Did you check if there is enough luggage space for a family of six or seven after everyone is seated comfortably? You normally do a good job, but I think you missed the mark on this one.

[@ziploc2000]

I was surprised to discover that this is about 5" shorter than our 2010 Honda Odyssey minivan, and less than 1" wider. It's horses for courses, which Ellie seems to have forgotten in this review. If she had a hubby, two kids, one in a baby carrier, and two grandparents to load in, she'd feel differently.

[@jimparlett4099]

One of the root causes of climate change, and the one that many shy away from talking about for obvious reasons, is over-population. 8 billion is too many for the planet to sustain, especiallyas more and more of them want a phone, computer, personal transport, foreign holidays, electricity, house, heating/cooling, a fridge, good food. If future generations want a habital planet, familes of six or seven need to become socially (or legally) unacceptable.

[@riggedforepic6293]

Why wouldn't her opinion on big cars be relevant? She's the one doing the review 😂 Also it's refreshing for someone not assuming bigger is better. The state of things in the US just shows how their excessive lifestyles end up with them having such a selfish way of doing things.

[@coreylazy]

Should've known better than to start watching with the click-bait title. Five minutes spent talking about anything *except* the car.

[@falconreconeight]

We’re losing the focus on what EV’s are supposed to be. Thanks to America and their lust for big cars.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Why am I blocked?

[@edwinng2046]

Happy new year 2025 £7xk too much

[@laloajuria4678]

shes stacked!

[@stevoc9930]

Another man of culture and fine tastes I see.

[@lavatr8322]

What does that mean?

[@moraisgamer8902]

Mulher ao volante, perigo constante

[@ursjungo5896]

Really??? It's the 21st century...come on mate, move with the times.

[@martingeyette6395]

Your necklace & pendant looks cool, wait, you are doing a car eval, ok, in the US, cool. The EV 9 is a bus, I like smaller, it looks cool.❤

[@fire_stick]

🔥

[@notaurusexcretus4471]

If in certain states you as a woman less freedom the rest of country is not a free country 😂

[@alvitahmid]

Hello do you need an attractive youtube thumbnail designer? please let me know

[@goingoutotheparty1]

This is a reason to unsubscribe. Crappy pants what are you.up.to ? Really? Wtaf cmon Maaan

[@grahamkearnon6682]

Please don't be one of those brits, i.e., everything is great in US Richard Hammond types, it really,really isn't great. Poverty, gun paranoia, fat fat fat.

[@lavatr8322]

Yet everyone wants to immigrate to US 😂

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@lavatr8322 Shows how bad many parts of the world are. BTW, another tragedy at NYC's NYE event; happens way too often.

[@DwainDwight]

these are seriously great cars, look awesome too, great for large families, but otherwise get an EV3.

[@seanweirdbeard]

Conflicted Moi? Le weight and size of cars is getting way outta hand. Its not only exhaust fumes that fugg up our air/heart/lungs. Brake Dust and Rubbler Tyre particles also contribute... And unless you are religiously in regen mode on your EV you're contributing to Le Prob too. Plus Le Carbon Footprint of any new car outweighs that of a 15yr old plus vehicle. Bar a nasty Oil Burner Diesel. I used to own a 30yr ol petrol Saab 900 and that I think had only just repaid its carbon debt. I feel guilty about driving a 2008 Subaru Outback but that in no way compares to le size of that Monster! Happy to report I am not Conflicted.

[@ziploc2000]

This EV9 is actually 5" shorter than a 2010 Honda Odyssey minivan, and less than 1" wider. The big problem for me is that manufacturers are eliminating small vehicles from their lineup, so people who want a small car (like my Chevrolet Bolt) are struggling to find them. We're being forced into bigger vehicles than we want.

[@ziploc2000]

No gasoline or diesel vehicle ever offsets the carbon footprint from the manufacturing process. It just adds to it by burning more fossil fuels. Keeping it longer is better than adding a new debt with a new vehicle, but there's no offsetting. Only a pure battery electric vehicle can offset its carbon footprint. It has a bigger initial footprint due to the battery materials, but from the moment it hits the road it's offsetting that debt by using cleaner, (hopefully) renewable energy for the rest of its lifespan. Depending on the vehicle size and efficiency, and the method of electricity generation (solar, wind, hydro-electric, nuclear, natural gas, coal) that takes about 28,000 to 68,000 miles of driving.

[@timscott3027]

​@@ziploc2000I suspect it's actually less miles than that as well as a lot of stats are very negative and don't account for the extra roughly 30percent well to pump emissions. Especially if it's a smaller battery car charged in Scotland or somewhere with loads of wind power.

[@ziploc2000]

@@timscott3027 True, I was really just looking at how soon EVs recover their initial carbon footprint. NO gas car ever can, and as you say, there's more than just the inefficiency of the ICE, the gas has to get to the pump and it doesn't magic in there. Where I live we have 90% renewable energy from the grid, most of that is hydro-electric, and we have solar panels on our house. Our EV is powered by sunshine and rain.

[@seanweirdbeard]

@@ziploc2000 I was refering to the manufacturing footprint. New cars still need Energy to produce; Steel Aluminium Alloys Precious Metals Plastics Composites that go to make a weighty motor these days. Think you'd need 10+yrs min to underwrite that lidl lot! Regardless of what's powering it... Would like to see an in depth study to get a real world figure.

[@seanys]

Dear gawd that is ugly!

[@grahamkearnon6682]

Hope the cheque was worth the caving of your morals.

[@JanMorsø]

Are you deaf? Or a bit 'squiffy', sunshine...

[@L-Bj]

Cheering America 😂 You guys should've stayed in the eu single market with free movement of goods, capital, services, and people.

[@Kitofthearts]

I completely understand this conflict. Who the fuck can afford, to have 3 or 4 kids, in the family unit, these days? I mean a KIA like this is a handy car for work (van like storage space) & potentially picking up TV & Film crews, if shooting a movie. The only other reason, would be to carry three generations of family around. So , in that sense, it's a great!