The British Vs The Belgians - Pigeon Racing

[@keithharkis5400]

The video s are great and have been great help for me I’ve got 7 racers 14 rollers and ten white doves I just started with pigeon s on my 50th five years now I keep them all separate to stop mixing. I just like to sit with a coffee and watch them fly . Keep up the videos

[@poorboy2012]

Good morning my friend! It's great to see your video. Wishing you a very happy new year.❤❤🎉

[@thomaskauffman983]

Love your updates. Brings me back to the days I was in the sport. Thanks again!

[@howtotrainyourpigeon]

No problem, glad you like it 👍

[@relaxinthesauna]

verry nice ,today is the first time ever for me to tos my pigeons,so exciting;greetings from belgium.

[@Richard87H]

Gotta love the dinner reminder txt hahha

[@wiliamclay4254]

Another great video cant wait to see how the youngsters you bred yourself fare wishing you allthe best

[@Georgeolddrones]

We start at 10 miles with 3-4 old birds in with them and then move to 20miles and went racing start we stop .have had no problems. We use this method for 20 years or more. And won from 80 . 500miles + all the best 👍

[@wiliamclay4254]

Great video as always cant wait your see how the youngsters that you bred yourself fare

[@Jules551]

Great video , they go so quick , really looking forward to your journey with them 👍👍

[@tonypeters9763]

Great video, good to see the YBs coming on now, good luck hope you got all your Y/Bs back

[@howtotrainyourpigeon]

Thanks. Yeah all back (3 disappeared for a few days).

[@tonypeters9763]

@@howtotrainyourpigeon Glad you got them all back, when is the first Y/B race where from how far Good luck

[@IrishphilArtwork]

Go nice and slow keep it up I wish you all the best with them ☘🇮🇪☘👍

[@lepointjosiane9640]

Dear friend, for the small training courses in the moming, do not feed the pigeons before releasing them. Against the falcons put red point for sheep on the lower back and one under each wing, it is a round tube of red color. Courage and patience for the rest of your season. I use a translator because I am Belgian but I live in France. Henri

[@hermansohier7643]

That feed is very heavy, i would feed them lighter .It's not critic but just a bit of advice .Good luck .

[@desburke7786]

HI DAN, i hope that little hen that clipped a powerline or tree top is ok?? hopefully she just lost some down feathers on her keel bone and at worst has a little bruse . please mate you need 2 get the linnseed in the loft and ready for them 2 pick at and as a reward for flying straight home, god forbid youre van broke down, then what?. as for it being overcast means feck all once there is good clearance and visability as far as the eye can see, if they see rain they will go trough it or round it and thats a fact, hope there still going well for you pal

[@bxgames4070]

I’ve always gone further for the first toss with young birds than 2 mile because they should go that far when flying out the loft

[@howtotrainyourpigeon]

Pretty sure they do. They can see a lot further than that too just flying around the loft. I use the first few just to get them used to being stuck in a crate, driven some place and released. It's more of a confidence boost and seems to be working. We're at 10 miles, 8 chucks in and still got 100% of those that went for the first chuck. Hopefully it'll continue 🤞

[@niniksulikah8861]

Why dont you have bob wirers on your young bird loft .? Yhey really need to get used to them and then they cant get back out

[@howtotrainyourpigeon]

I have them, just haven't got round to installing them. It's on the 'to do' list 😬

[@sumodvs17]

👍

[@paulstewart6364]

How many did you put in each crate ? Both looked a bit full ? Also always have traps open with food & water available on return … it would also be much better to put Bob wires on your trap ? Leaving them will guarantee bad trapping on race day ..

[@desburke7786]

way 2 many in each crate, ive told dan about this before, and as far as i remember he has a bigger crate or2, crammed in causes unwanted stress. ive also told him 2 leave lynn seed there for them 2 be able 2 have a pick at untill he arrives home in the van

[@geoffhackett6509]

20klm is the first toss for me x3 then 40klm then 50klm then start again around the compos if they are lucky ..They should be ranging before the first toss if they dont range then u have a health problem.

[@paulstewart6364]

It would help the ubs a lot better if you took the basket out the van and let the get orientated with the surroundings especially when it’s a bit overcast. I know you’re pretty new to the sport but think thing through a bit more and you’ll definitely lose less ybs. Good Luck for the yb season.

[@howtotrainyourpigeon]

I tried that last year and they attempted to walk home 😂. I usually make sure they can see the sun from the back if I don't unload. Working so far 👍

[@paulstewart6364]

@@howtotrainyourpigeon Don’t be afraid to jump them to 15/20 miles now and keep them there they’ll find their breaking point from there to the loft. Most races won from the last 15 to 20 miles.

[@desburke7786]

@@paulstewart6364 races are won and lost at the racepoint. our libarator told us so many times he would see small batches up2 1k or less break and like a shot be gone heading straight for home, and maybe nearly 10 mins later the main batch would leave. if they dont break well there race is over, yes last 20miles and if youre not in the line of flight like i was, they definitley need 2 learn 2 break at a certain distance and then not over shoot the loft, i allways used a refarees whistle and they could hear that for sure

[@johncallaghan8854]

Great video Dan, I've got a couple of pointers for you although as you say, you'll probably get told the opposite by other fanciers. 1) And most importantly I think, is to always elevate your crates when liberating your birds, from either the back or the roof of the Van, as you did for the first lib, or from some other platform, for two reasons. Firstly, when liberating from the ground you are training your pigeons to come out of the crates running, as you can clearly see in your video of the second release from 10 miles. The problem with this, is when they come off the Race Transporter they will run out of their crates instead of flying out, and they will drop down and then be beaten down by the pigeons flying out above them. If they are they are trained from an elevated platform, they will learn to fly out of the crates and there's a better chance of them being up in the air and in with the early group of pigeons that breaks and every little advantage helps. Second reason is, from an elevated position it will make it easier for them to gain height quicker and help them clear any obstacles and reduce the chance of injuries. 2) Either release all your birds at the same time or take the second group to a different location. If you hold the second batch at the same location where the first batch were released and they are out in sight, the first batch will circle back looking for their loft mates, that are still waiting to be released. This gives them the bad habit of not clearing the lib site quickly and again will reduce the chances of them being in the first batch of pigeons that clear, and it's that first group that wins races. 3) Increasing distance, it's definitely up to you how comfortable you feel with the increases. So whether it be by 5, 10, or 15 mile jumps, what's important with young birds is when to move them, once they've beaten you home twice from the same spot. Move them on, so they continue to get educated and have to think for themselves until you get them coming consistently from 30 miles. Then start training them to the East and West of your original 30 mile point. So they learn how to come on different lines in different winds. If you can find another fancier who doesn't live too close to you, to team up with once you're at this stage, you'll do wonders for them as they will learn to break from the flock and this is where winners are created. Good luck and keep it going, loving the videos and seeing you and your birds making progress! Cheers mate

[@desburke7786]

great advice john, my big worry is Dan will jump them into the first race because he won it last year, even do they might not be ready 2 race yet, i can understand his excitement in wanting 2 send them but its a big novice mistake. John did you notice over the years that the first race was allways wide open, and alot of the fanciers in youre club would skip the first race?/

[@johncallaghan8854]

@@desburke7786 @desburke7786 yes the first YB race was very often a disaster with so many fanciers who hadn't done their work hoping everyone else's pigeons would bring theirs home. We would get our birds to 60 miles at least 3 times before the first race, which for us was 120 miles. Now we don't "race" our young birds at all, due to not being in a club, we fly only nationals, so ours are sent as trainers. We wait until the first two races are done before we drop them into the club transporter. By not racing we a0re no longer worried about the averages, so we're not tempted into throwing them in before they're ready. I'm sure Dan will do right by his birds and won't risk throwing them away. He's too canny for that.

[@desburke7786]

Please God he doesn't/hasn't, not sure when his first race is/was. Dan wants his birds 2 eventually fly Lerwick, I explained long distance specialist such as yourself often don't race young birds , and only give them a few as yearlings also, and then as 2-3 year olds they step them up big time , in Ireland we race talbenny in Wales 121 miles but not the easiest spot 2 race from across 2 ocewn but better than a graveyard we once race called oakhampton, then we move down 2 Bude and Penzance and sennen cove that's 220 again tough enough race point, then Dynard or an New'r spot in France, that was 300+ returns would be tough also but that's over 2 oceans should the birds choose 2 go 2 England first and then up land and across 2 Ireland, we never new if any flew straight 2 south was Ireland 2 roslare in wexfford and up the coast 2 dublin, lads from northern Ireland fly it also , miss racing the great sport that is pigeon racing

[@johncallaghan8854]

@@desburke7786 I've always admired the Irish pigeons and fanciers. Those Birds are probably the toughest in Europe crossing two bodies of water, especially the Irish sea. My Dad is from County Dublin, although he didn't race pigeons until I started flying in 1987. We've been on partnership ever since. I'm sure Dan won't send his birds until he has them ready. If I've noticed anything from these videos it's that Dan is no fool and will have them ready to go when he needs to compete.

[@desburke7786]

There tough alright, but yet southern Irish people admire the lads flying the same race points up to northern Ireland as they have so much further to go, and our biggest love would be the Scottish lads flying from southern England and France now thats some distances. Yes I'm sure Dan will do the right ting and bide his time , patients is everything in pigeon racing, good luck 2 all you lads racing and as all ways Enjoy

[@SportHighlights777]

My loft is surrounded by building whenever i want to fly away my racing young pigeon they sit on the biulding can anyone plz help

[@blackcobrauk]

cut back there food till they come to loft when called then slowly increase food while still in control thats what i did not sure if correct way.

[@SportHighlights777]

@@blackcobrauk bro i already try that but nothing changes

[@陳阿鴻-w4r]

兄弟我建議減少豆類和玉米只吃穀類同時減少食量為原來的一半

[@stevenleftley1759]

Barley

[@mickclarke8749]

Trained birds better returns