The Broken Lore of Five Nights at Freddy's (A former fans Retrospective) REUPLOAD!!!

Hey everyone! Hope you enjoyed the video because this had to be reuploaded. there was a copyright strike but here's a slightly updated version of the previous video!
#fivenightsatfreddys #fnaf #securitybreach

[@joker_shiromiya285]

loiked. nda. sobscribbled. like you wanted. can't. wait. for. forrkniaesngvaeiobnhsi. video. i. knowiaw. you will. do. exceptionally. well. on it. #fuckfnaf. #fortniteswpee. #fnafmorelikefanfsfidvsneavgio. $#. #ily.

[@leoboi4957]

I can feel my brain melting trying to read this

[@joker_shiromiya285]

@@leoboi4957 :)

[@ashleycurtis3482]

I think this is a joke

[@joker_shiromiya285]

@@ashleycurtis3482 i think you would be incorrect.

[@spud_d4186]

@@ashleycurtis3482 wrong

[@benwelsh5265]

You have no idea how cathartic this video was for me. To know that there's someone else out there who gets it. Who understands the love/hate dynamic I have with this franchise. Someone who doesn't pretend that the lore and story isn't anything other than a barely coherent and terribly written mess at this point. I love FNAF but I threw away the rose-tinted glasses I had for it years ago.

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Agreed. A good series needs to know when to stop. It's why these days, I admire storytellers who refuse to make a sequel. Not those who abandon a series, those who refuse to make a sequel.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Spittin' fax here, it's a shame so few videos actually discuss how garbage fnaf lore and fnaf everything is

[@BlueTyphoon2017]

@@danielsurvivor1372well I wouldn’t say everything, but the lore nowadays definitely is.

[@kwayneboy1524]

​@@BlueTyphoon2017no buddy it's everything the whole story is incoherent babble that's being held together by theories to the point that character motivation is literally up to debate. Scott is just a hack and this fandom is too childish to see it

[@Ryoba__chan]

@@kwayneboy1524 or even character's name debateable lmao :D

[@skunkbrains5656]

I feel like with scott semi-retiring, it should just be one of those unspoken rule things that everything after 6/custom night is basically only canon if you like it.

[@ghosthunter8166]

Agreed security breach’s storyline just felt a bit odd

[@fureszadam3160]

For me it was sister location.

[@sammyiassume]

this is my exact thought process, it just gets way too confusing and not even in a good or intelligent way

[@skandto]

the gameplay of all the games after fnaf 3 are cool but it should've ended at 3

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

@@skandto Agreed. Afton should only have died twice.

[@paprikadevil6405]

I really don't like how they made the robots more human in security breach, it just gets rid of all the fear of the robots and honestly makes me feel more bad for them when they inevitably destroy them

[@Cool_Kid95]

Nice Spinel PFP!

[@sunsetlover123-y7c]

Yeah, not only that but it makes zero sense, plus it totally ruins the scare factor the originals had, that being their uncanny lifelessness.

[@JamieElli]

I feel like it's weird that with Ruin, we seem to have abandoned all the spirits and haunting, and now we've just got sci-fi. At that point it probably should have branched to a new series.

[@burgerkingfries4941]

It fails in every conceivable way

[@RYUUsballpit]

I agree with every point of this video. FNAF started off displaying such a mastery of simple, effective and atmospheric horror that slowly devolved into a confusing, tangled, watered down mess. I truly wish things stayed the way it could in the beginning... But I think the only way that could have happened was to end the series sooner. However, I am so glad that I witnessed this series in it's hay-day, because this series also got me into horror media and ignited my love for creating characters and stories. Fnaf will always have a place in my heart, despite the disappointing turn it took in its later years.

[@sunsetlover123-y7c]

FNAF used to scare the sh*t outta me when I was younger, I never understood any lore, but yet somehow I still have that nostalgia love for it lmao (I'm not gonna reveal my age now since that'll be a totally stupid idea, especially since I'm on the internet.)

[@boombirdking2118]

Honestly, I really hate the books and all the stupid sci-fi concepts that make story unnecessarily complicated. It just used to be facial recognition tech in the 80s and ghosts haunting animatronics, but now there’s human androids and illusion disks to excuse bad planning with nonsense retcons

[@decomposingdave2902]

I wholeheartedly agree with ya on that it was just unnecessary at that point if you’re gonna do that advanced sci-fi killer machine terminator concept pls plan it out carefully like for example i would have been ok with sister location if it didn’t have this remnant drug like experiments and made the timeline years after fnaf 3 cuz at least that would make more sense with how beyond advanced they are

[@_somestuff]

Security Breach should be made noncanon. As a matter of fact, same with Help Wanted. Vanessa should be evil because she was inspired by Afton or something like that, not because of some dumb Glitch bs. Also agree, FNaF 1-3 were the Golden Age, the good old days (4 was crap, SL was bad & FFPS was mid with a great ending).

[@paprikadevil6405]

Exactly

[@chillykomasan7971]

Fnaf 1-3 genuinely worked due to its simplicity despite all the cryptic ways. Where’s basically just a tragic story about 5 kids being stuffed in animatronics that never let go of the person who did it. Which I called the Missing Children incident arc. 4-6 tried to bring more light by giving William afton and his family more depth but got pretty confusing and sci-fi (especially when the books come into play) even if everything wrapped in a great sendoff until security breach fucked it all up.

[@ender01o66]

but Vanessa isn't evil

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@@ender01o66 Which is why they said SHOULD. As in: rewritten to be the main villain of Security Breach without Afton in her brain. She should've been a copycat killer.

[@Thor-Orion]

Pizzeria Simulator is actually my favorite gameplay, I like the business simulator aspect of it, had pretty good humor too.

[@pieofchart]

I'll never understand why they UNDID the fact that William is finally dead. That and, the possibility of Charlie, Elizabeth and all the other souls possessing Molten Freddy/Ennard being alive too, and now being the Blob. Like come on. It's like that whole game was nothing. Next thing you know, Micheal Afton is back, too. LET ME BOY REST!

[@funninoriginal6054]

9 months late but they downright imply Rockstar Freddy is being posessed by Michael in the Burntrap ending.

[@BeiyongError]

As I said on the first video I agree 100%. I found this series fascinating at the start. But as the Lore (phone what the heck) got more and more complicated I started falling out of it. I mostly followed it via Game Theory but found the fan content pretty cool. Loving the video!

[@rightgame3566]

*lore edit: 👍

[@cosmicbreath]

I've heard people theorize that Midnight Motorist might take place after Crying Child's death, with the child missing from the house being Michael and the person watching TV being Mrs. Afton. It would at the very least make the motivations for the missing Afton child more obvious if it was Michael wrecked with grief rather than Crying Child, and would give William more motivation as to why he might be kicked out of a bar... As for the bite, I always did think it was weird that everyone latched onto 1983 immediately. I was a 90's kid and they replayed episodes of 80's cartoons in the early 90's all the time! Heck, channels had reruns of I Love Lucy, Twilight Zone, Little House on the Prairie, and Mr. Ed and everything in between! There's no evidence that the original intention was that THAT was the year it took place in. It could've originally been meant to signify that the bite happened in 1983 at the EARLIEST, but could've easily happened later. But alas, whatever the original intention was, it is what it is now...

[@grandempressvicky6387]

One cool thing that one of the FNAF VHS tapes implied was that William hated or at least disliked Michael. A lot (some theorising that the Dracula tv show is supposed to be William arguing with Mrs Afton about whether Michael is actually is his son). But he adored Evan and Elizabeth. So when Evan died not too long after Elizabeth, he was particularly aggressive towards Michael. So Michael would run away frequently to avoid his father. In the meantime, William is incredibly jealous of Henry since he still has his children. Then he kills other children to take out his frustration on Michael without hurting him.

[@Caine187]

People say 4 is where the series fell off story wise, but for me it was sister location that did it. A walking corpse with MULTIPLE animatronics inside it? GF plush (possibly) being a walkie talkie instead of a possessed doll? Who the hell is ballora and the minireenas/bidybabs? It just went too sci fi for me lol

[@Al3xthefrog]

Finally! I thought I was the only one thinking about this! Sister Location was the downfall of FNAF (lore wise)

[@ender01o66]

it's not posessed, it's haunted

[@grathem9789]

@@Al3xthefrog i also think it was the downfall of the series itself because sister location for me wasn't even that scary compared to the previous games and lead the series to be more kid friendly and that is the position that fnaf is in right now

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

#4 could be accepted. It's basically useless. The story was over at #3. But 4 doesn't wreck the lore. Sister Location? As far as I can tell, you can follow the entire story without ever once acknowledging that it exists. If I leave Micheal and that game out entirely, nothing about William's story really changes. And the game is really his story, isn't it? He's the only consistent character. I need, like, two lines of lore about Baby to complete the story of the Afton family; that's all I need from Sister Location... maybe? I hear Baby makes a good manipulative villain, but if I want that, I'll go play Portal and hang out with GLaDOS. (Who really DOES need another game. C'mon, Valve!)

[@5kidsInMyBasement]

​​@@grathem9789I really like Fnaf Sl game play wise. It always has something new to do and is diferent from the repetitive game play of the others(I like the other games despite the repetitive gameplay btw), I think the animatronics in fnaf Sl look terrifying when their faces open. And the jumpscares where they open their face always gets me(The ones in that night with a gameplay like the other night I have to say the jumpscares are trashy.) It is my favorite game, from the designs(I love the animatronic designs) to the diferent gameplay. But I can't lie, it made fnaf lore ridiculous and all over the place, And I just can't get my mind around the fact that all that high tech looking animatronics are from the 80's, how the hell does Funtime Foxy has motion capture feauture in the 80's? And then to make everything worse... The ending, oh Lord the ending. How the hell did parts of 4 animatronics assembled inside a dude and then dude vomited them while already a corpse and for some reason, he has the hability to stay alive and then Baby separated from the others, became Baby again but all weird and the other 3 made a weird freddy and appeared in fnaf 6?

[@dr.archaeopteryx5512]

FNAF suffers from conditioning its fanbase to overanalyze every last detail, conditioning itself to be vague and confusing at the best of times, and having been written by someone who genuinely seems to suck at making sure information he wants to convey reaches his audience while also being ready to retcon the whole franchise every other game

[@stg_envii4485]

I still remember when people would obsess over the name of the night guard in FNAF 1 & 2 but now I never hear about them. I’ve tried looking it up but nothing pops up.

[@vibemasterkorosu2469]

FNaF 1: Mike Schmidt FNaF 2: Jeremy Fitzgerald FNaF 3: No idea, it's an unnamed schmuck (probably Michael or something) FNaF 4: Michael's little brother (No idea, people say that his name is Evan apparently?) FNaF SL: Unnamed, probably Michael FNaF Pizza sim: Michael (This guy's got some real balls of steel for taking the job everytime just to get jumpscared). That's about it.

[@matyno2127]

Man I miss when FNAF was just a story that could have ended after game 6, when everything was actual horror and with a genuinely interesting plot. My favorite part about this series is the FNAF 6 ending, it just felt so poetic and beautiful. That it angers me when the story just keeps going progressively getting more and more stupid and nonsense. Making the FNAF 6 ending feel less impacting because with every game they try to "close" the story but instead leaving more plot holes each game, where FNAF 6 already did that and it didn't need more than just that. It brought a closure to the games that could have been left as the true ending to five nights at Freddy's.

[@wordfr]

Fnaf 6 should have been the ending but then they ruined it

[@BlueAmpharos]

There was a Fnaf 6? I thought the numbering ended with 4, then it got into Sister Location, Help Wanted, ect. Which game are you referring to?

[@matyno2127]

@@BlueAmpharos Freddy Fazbear Pizzeria simulator.

[@BlueAmpharos]

Okay thanks. I couldn't tell what game he was talking about in the video when he said Fnaf 6 either since there is no game that goes by that title I could find. I have fallen out of the FNAF loop ever since the fourth game and Sister Location. The new game Security Breech looks good in that it has actual gameplay, ironically enough it lost the horror elements that made the game unique to begin with. The 80's rocker look just isn't scary to me. I like the 80's aesthetic though, and the way the place resembles a mall.

[@crystalcat1002]

In my opinion, everything before Security Breach was ok.

[@JamesP7]

I still love all the games up to FNaF UCN, but if people like the next games, that’s okay. If people like Dawko and Astralspiff can find enjoyment in them, more power to them.

[@creativeevil1369]

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[@phosspatharios9680]

The FNaF 4 Nightmare Theory kinda wraps up the FNaF lore for me. Scott feared it would leave the fandom unsatisfied, but for me it's more satisfying than whatever happened after FNaF 4.

[@marakrofitcac3425]

Provided you have the passion for it, I think you ought too try your hand at breaking down the broken lore of other games and media as a whole, you do a fantastic job of explaining things clearly while keeping me personally invested and sitting through the whole thing. Plus discussing broken lore and not pretending that it all somehow fits together is a niche I haven’t really seen a channel commit too.

[@ender01o66]

everyone misses the key detail that William gets posessed

[@brianco28]

imo the issue with fnaf is the need to explain things that are scarier without explanation. the most egregious example of this is remnant. i cannot stress enough how much we did not need to know about this. it GREATLY added to the fear factor of not knowing how these children possessed the suits and had this paranormal vibe to it, as it should. giving it a scientific explanation just kills that completely. fnaf originally did such a good job using the fear of the unknown. who's the purple guy, what's with the weird shadows, why are these robots moving, what's the deal with golden freddy, etc. it stayed vague while also giving us just enough to keep us guessing. but modern fnaf has this need to explain literally every detail while just losing itself in its own confusion.

[@Thor-Orion]

Hard agree. It’s so weird that Scott gave a scientific explanation for remnant but can’t be bothered to give us Crying Child’s real name.

[@sander303]

I feel like the story took a turn for the worse at FNaF 3, albeit it's still understandable, and then it slammed into a concrete wall in FNaF Help Wanted.

[@JamesP7]

Everything UCN and before I enjoy. But after that… yeesh…

[@Mangofdestiny7]

it def got a bit worse after 3... but we got the 6th game so it's all good

[@JessieTheNobody]

This series will always be a mixed bag for me. The story is incomprehensible, the gameplay in Security Breach is underdeveloped, and the presentation is of a higher budget but not enough time going into it. It's not scary anymore. Unfortunately, it is this way. But, always here for the fanworks that do better. Weird how it's like that nowadays.

[@f-zilla7347]

The animatronics should NEVER have started speaking. Completely removes the fear factor, and it makes the games Sister Location automatically inferior to the first few games, and that’s not even one of the top 10 things that ruined Post-2015 FNaF.

[@exalpergames90]

I mean if UCN was the last game I would have been fine with that too. Just a game showing what happened to afton but now… eh….

[@XJ43088]

I pretty much agree... As someone who was a fan when they were a kid, FNaF's "story" has become so convoluted that I honestly want it to end, especially since the Ruin DLC seems to only exist to further confuse things by adding a virtual augmented reality that isn't even explained how it works, and elements from the Pizzaplex books, making the books canon. I genuinely do not care about the lore of this franchise anymore because I'm confident that *_nobody_* can make a timeline without getting *_something wrong,_* and we don't even know if what's canon right now will stay canon by tomorrow. It's gotten so out of hand that I wouldn't be surprised if you told me that in a future installment, Freddy resets the entire multiverse by touching a tipped over trash bin... Every story has to have an end in sight, and damn it, Scott could've left it at Pizza Sim, but since he didn't, I *_do not_* see an end for this series. At this point, a story isn't even being told anymore.

[@decomposingdave2902]

I agree I would have been satisfied if it had ended on 3 or 4 I miss when things were still mysterious simple and effective with the horror factor

[@wr3nche5]

this might be a hot take, but, to keep my sanity in-tact, i consider the first 4 games to be part of the "main story/timeline" (4 games, 1 story, right?), then sister location through custom night as an "extended story/timeline", and everything after that as a star wars legends type thing. this just makes everything more simple to me, and keeps the magic of the original 4 games' story alive, in my opinion. again, it might be a hot take, but hey. headcanons be headcanons, and i'd like to keep my sanity 😅

[@themechabomb]

Didn't realize the other one was taken down, but glad you reuploaded it, and gotta say, interesting take on the story of the games

[@ngocluong5715]

Fyi this narrative is very good but it missing some keyplots and factual infos (which is necessary, they're "cannon" and will make clear some of the hazy mess it alr is). I will cover knots from 1-6 (I'm not informed enough what happen in after with the viruses) 1.Why William is Orange. This is a direct reference to FNAF World hint as "don't confuse me with the other purple guy, I just made to be purple for easy to see". That's mean William not actually purple skinned BUT Mike is due to Ennerd messed with his body 2. What was the car minigame implied. For this we need to look in the survival guide book and found out Evan used to love his dad works and his favorite thing there was the rollercoaster, implying fnaf2's location, and since he ran to the direction of "the bar" we can assume that's the place. TL;DR, The "new and improved" toy location isn't super brandnew, maybe just the animatronics got the rework are, not the location itself. 3.The bite of 83 and 87 and the recon. This pissed me off too but Evan can't be bitten at 87, because 87's location (pressume fnaf2's location) isn't matched with Evan's location (Fredbear Family Diner). I think Scott either jebaited people and not actually recon or he realizes a big ass plothole if he keep the promo lore in. 4. The relevancy of the yellow bear. It's outright confirm he has 2 souls via the princess quest game (not that the survival guide book alr make it complicated enough). Anyways love ur content, idk why you put urself through to make this vid but love it anyway. *Cough* pls Kirby extra now-is-canon-lore next pls *cough*

[@nylereilly2637]

This is what happens when companies get greedy and start milking franchises until there's literally nothing left but repeating the same stories over and over again.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

I love the occasional rainy ambience, it's so relaxing!

[@sammyiassume]

at this point i just don’t accept it as canon. i’ve seen so many good shows and games go down horrible paths that i pretend it never happened bc it pisses me off so much, especially when a simple fix could’ve made everything perfect.

[@lonely9826]

Aw man! It sucks that your video got striked. It always sucks when something you put a lot of work into just gets striked like that. Anyways I love this video! You did a good job and I agree with most of the stuff you say in it. Love your videos!

[@sticksterstickme986]

I just found the whole 87-83 thing to be wildly confusing because if Fredbear's Family Diner existed in 1987 and the bite happened there, then wtf goes on in FNAF 2? Phone guy in that game hardly seems to know anything about Fredbear's, having to go out of his way to look into it. It's dead by FNAF 2. And FNAF 2 takes place in 1987. It just doesn't add up

[@5kidsInMyBasement]

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is that fnaf sl happend beetwen 83 and 87. Like, just look at the animatronics, William Afton really went to the future and came back to make this advenced animatronics with motion capture and etc.

[@funninoriginal6054]

​@@5kidsInMyBasement Not to mention, this weird ass technological leap becomes even more apparent when the most advanced animatronics after the funtimes were... The toys. Which only had facial recognition. It makes more sense when you consider Scott made SL as a response to people saying fnaf was "too samey" and that he's made a lot of Sci-fi games before fnaf, but lore wise it dosen't make any sense at all.

[@decomposingdave2902]

Since it was never stated what year fnaf 4 was in I like to think originally the fnaf 4 and 2 locations coexisted with each other in the same year that being 1987 as for why nobody mentions the bite in fnaf 2 very simple it either hasn’t happened yet or nobody got the news of what happened at the other location yet

[@Nova-rd3hi]

17:16 Okay, I'm not sure if anyone has ever said this but this needs be said. It's not like Scott planned this to be The Bite of '83 and was just trolling everyone. What's most likely happened was that when FNAF4 was released, it originally WAS The Bite of '87 that we saw and it was supposed be a big shocker because nobody would've suspected Fredbear did it. However, when you really think about this, Fredbear having caused The Bite of '87 makes zero goddamn sense, and this was an oversight by Scott that he would later realize was a major oversight. For one, what's shown in the bite minigame doesn't match up with what's said or implied about the Bite of '87 in previous games. The phone guy heavily implies that the bite was at least in part due to the animatronics' ability to walk around, Fredbear was on stage when the bite happened. He also very heavily implies that the bite involved someone's frontal lobe being removed, the Crying Child entire f**king head was crushed during the event. FNAF2 takes place during 1987 and it's heavily implied that the bite took place there when we see the paper showing Freddy's is closing due to animatronic malfunctions. Finally, we know that Fredbear's is no longer a thing by the time of 1987 since FNAF2 takes place during that year and it's mentioned that Fredbear's closed down. I think Scott Cawthon realized the problems with Fredbear being the culprit and so retconned the whole into thing into being "The Bite of '83", a never-before-mentioned event.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

4:01 Mat slowly realising he created a monster, a *blob* if you will, Scott directly reference Mat in the past, implying MatPat is atleast partly responsible for Fnaf future development, HE created this mess with Scott and now he's shocked that "wait, this stuff thrown to the wall can't just be ... Random, right? It MUST make sense, Scott wouldn't lie to us, there MUST be some grand mystery!1!!1!" Fitting for MatPat to be stuck in his personal hell

[@svk_zoltan]

Orange guy in the "later that night" minigame is not William Afton. I see this missunderstood everywhere. The "later that night" minigame refers to the night of the missing children incident and we are watching an aftermath of one of the kidnapping victims. Orange guy is his abusive father who is coming home drunk, JRs is a restaurant/bar where green guy (bouncer) wont allow orange guy to enter (as he is already drunk). When he comes home (which is obviously not a fnaf4 house) we find a broken window and a set of footprints. This scenario directly matches one of the high shcool chica cutscenes which describe individual methods how William kidnapped the kids. Some people might argue that William would die in the suit because its raining. We see only an aftermath, it wasnt raining when he kidnapped the kid.

[@Thor-Orion]

Later that night is later the night Charlotte was killed. I suspect Orange guy to be Henry.

[@wr3nche5]

i actually really like this interpretation now but what's that mound. . . ?

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

I hate how convoluted this story is getting.

[@funninoriginal6054]

That would directly contradict with the fact that the dissapearances/murders were explicitally stated to happen _inside_ the restaurant. I don't see how a guy dressed as a yellow rabbit breaking inside a house to kidnap a child would make sense at all.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

@@funninoriginal6054 Agreed

[@lucaschannel726]

agree, f$ck security breach and help wanted so much. those games will never be canon to me, i will never make a timeline video featuring those sh$t stains for as long as i live

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Dog I hate those games too but you are too aggressive.

[@mus1k844]

see i love this series, but more in a way of it was once a comfort item that is now a sandbag tied to me and i am doomed to sink further into the depths of whatever happens to it whether i like it or not through sheer morbid curiosity of how far it'll fall

[@Thor-Orion]

Scott isn’t really retired.

[@joeschmo2439]

Honestly id take the dream theory over whatever it is now. At least everything pointed to that

[@simonevo9743]

I am SO glad more and more KZbinrs are calling out the absolute bull that is the recent FNAF "lore". It was questionable with FNAF3, made little sense with FNAF4, the last chance of salvaging it was dream theory, buuuut no such luck. By SL release it was just an ass pull after an ass pull.

[@pikaland3852]

Personally I think UCN should have been the End of the "Purple Guy Era" of the lore, Maybe security breach has A little of william afton Maybe as One Last Stand on william's end (Maybe by attaching whats left of his soul to vanny or somethin and having the final battle be ACTUALLY GOOD) but Actually end william then and there.

[@SlimeBeast-xp7xf]

Based void soul kirby Also I like the fact there's a dark matter-esque sprite for when tspro gets mad, anyways yeah fnaf really did go downhill which is a shame From something relatively simple and coherent to nothing but gobbledygook nonsense where everyone involved is probably a secret robot or some bs

[@alishabutterfly3569]

43:07 I never knew this audio was fnaf, I've hear the audio before but man.. just in awe

[@joaodasilva3210]

Which was more complicated, Kirby lore or fnaf lore?

[@muziklol69]

fnaf lore

[@thewolface2339]

Kirby lore.

[@ender01o66]

@@muziklol69 only because people mix their fan-fiction into it, without that, probably Kirby

[@Chaotic_Overlord]

Kirby Is more confusing but fnaf Is more convoluted (if that makes sense)

[@denysvision]

Nah, Kingdome Hearts takes the whole cake as been more confused and conveluded

[@G.N.F462]

58:23 I have to disagree, bigger can absolutely mean better, however, bigger also means more complexity, meaning it will be harder to make everything fit. The more you add, the harder the story is to write.

[@ZionnetheMeme]

i swear the vr games should have been spinoffs or the series just straight up stopped at 6 but that's a lukewarm take at best so i'll shut up now

[@ChimeratAlpha]

Let's see... Overall, very well done. I do have a point or two on things you mentioned. [And not just to give this a bit of a boost in the algorithm. ;) ] 1) I always took the daughter saying Baby was "made for her" more as a "but I'm a spoiled child who always gets what she wants and loves this new robot you made, so it must be mine" rather than anything her father actually said to her. (That is 100% personal perspective, though.) 2) I believe the only things scanned for the creation of the VR game (in universe) were the circuit boards. If memory serves, that's supposed to same them in programing time for pathfinding. I don't recall anything related to the floor plans being scanned in. (In agreement with the whole "how the heck does the virtual Springtrap thing work" issue, though.)

[@Classic-guy1991]

I’m so happy someone finally made a video about this

[@ThePurpleStar]

This is exactly how I feel. Especially with the movie release, god I really really don't like that movie...

[@KILLRAIN42]

Who's piano cover of sweet dreams was that at the start? Cause that was friggin' beautifully haunting and I wanna listen to it more.

[@Starwarsfan2020]

When the story got to futuristic and the scary animatronics got really childish and cheesy in their appearances and art direction I knew FNAF was dead

[@k.ms.perkins8644]

Wait a minute I thought Glade family members existed in FNAF 2 and FNAF 4 minigames oops 😬🤞🤐

[@crash4267]

You said simple story lol

[@f-zilla7347]

Uhh FNaF2 takes place IN 1987, so Evan couldn’t have died in 1987 anyway.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

Some parts of the broken lore can even come from potential continuity errors

[@theperson4yearsago565]

The fnaf movie writng was Mid, the CGI and animatronics are the only thing that made it worth watching

[@hylianxbox6586]

I love the earlier FNAF games with Five nights at freddy’s 2 being one of my favorite horror games I love it that much. To me ultimate custom night was the last good FNAF and was the perfect send off. I hated Help wanted and Security breach was the game that made me officially give up on the franchise. I dont plan on olaying Help wanted 2 it looks boring and is just telling the same story again. FNAF was big for me when I was a kid I was a fan ever since the first game but where the franchise is now im frustrated and frankly upset with how broken the lore is and how some FNAF fans act like its all planned and that scott is actually a genius when its clear hes coming up with this stuff out of his ass. I will always love this franchise but I just dont really care about the newer FNAF games or lore

[@k.ms.perkins8644]

Do You remember about Popgoes bite of 87 belongs to Toy Bonnie was responsible and Guilty As shadow Bonnie aka Bonnie Glade As shadow Blackrabbit collection of Toy Bonnie was mysteries As well.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

45:34 Song name? It sounds so good

[@uncle_rando]

the 10th anniversary of Five Nights at Freddy's is coming up in 2 days, we just got a teaser for the next game, which seems to reveal that it takes place in 1979 (its about the mimic thing) that means a SHAPESHIFTING ROBOT existed at the same time people where using barely peices of scrap wearing yellow fursuits, this series' story isn't redeemable, its an incoherent mess that cant be fixed a toddler could right a better story than this, and im done with it, i quit being a fnaf fan, ill stick around for the 10th anniversary but im done after that it pains me to say it because i grew up with this series, but you've gotta leave things behind eventually and the time has come.

[@kittykat1791]

Well said. Things mostly made sense up through UCN (mostly). Sister Location was an odd one but if it had been the furthest into scifi we went it would have been alright. And I mean what we see in the game, not the stuff that gets added later through information in the novels. I don't like the direction they are going with the games right now, or some of the concepts they added in the novels. As for the short stories, about half the Fazbear Frights are actually pretty good and remind me a lot of the very first game in that they are about the pain and suffering from the atrocities at Freddy's now haunting a variety of objects and harming innocent people who happen across them. (The other half just make no sense at all and I think they are probably only urban legends even in the Fazbear Frights' timeline.) The way William is included in the short stories is actually much better than what they did in Help Wanted or Security Breach, and in a way I kind of wish they had made the games go in a direction closer to the concept of the Fazbear Frights ghost stories (and preferably set them before FFPS instead of just randomly bringing F.E. back). So, rather than some big bad evil controlling everything, it's just the echos of past suffering haunting animatronics/games/restaurants, amassing more and more pain as more people die because greedy F.E. would rather make a fast buck at the cost of some employees and customers than deal with their problems... until FFPS ends it all. But nope :/

[@pjen7198]

Fnaf 6 should’ve ended the lord

[@Hikkikomogirl]

Since they came out with that crap about the illusory discs, I stopped seeing the Fnaf story as something serious and I lost interest a lot, I miss those old days when the story had paranormal things but inside everything it was realistic and it felt like a story that could take place in real life (At least from the first game to Fnaf 4). I liked it because when I investigated and discovered things, I felt like a detective gradually revealing the truth with the help of others. For me, it has always been more logical that the events of Fnaf 4 were a nightmare of Evan or events that he dreamed while he was in a coma before dying, that was the old theory and honestly it is more credible than that of William (literally) torturing his child with real animatronics masked as monsters. So honestly, I will follow the advice I saw in another comment, after Fnaf UCN, consider everything what comes next (Both in games or additional info) as non-canon unless you like it. Something sad is that I liked Security Breach, but the abysmal damage it does to the story of the main saga makes me take it as a separate tale in an Alternative Universe or something, just like the books. It saddens me to see how one of my favorite video game sagas ended like this :(.

[@skylarsworld9477]

Unrelated, but I love how this video is edited like a creepypasta narration. It really scratches my brain in a good way

[@pygma9]

whats the music in part 1 called?

[@ZakiHabul]

Gonna comment to help the algorithm

[@TheDrNotNice]

damn copyright strikes

[@TehBaconBrawlerZ]

Me when reuploaded because copy right strike basically ruining all traffic for the video :(

[@wolfdoglover5493]

I honestly agree up l fell off from fandom and being fan it around sister location until it rement become a thing in the lore but l got to the point where the lore become to boring to me? lm not to sure how to explain it but it lost it ogrinal spark of it to the point where it need to just stop. l did like the idea of the funtimes but l kinda wish it was done in a different . Along with the books having different unverse yet some of stuff the books is caon and some it is lost it just got to much to the. Than when the movie came out while people thought it was terriable since it took insperation from the books and not the main games l was just happy we even got a movie it could be improve yes it can it dose have its fault but atleast the fnaf 1 gan looks great. but l feel like it should of just ended. but l still love the series but not as much as l do now

[@A3319]

Dont get how ghosts possessing metal is "Science Fiction" but okay

[@decomposingdave2902]

He didn’t say that he said remnant soul like energy that the killer in this franchise uses like some magical drug to become immortal he even made an extractor for it in sister location which is just to sci fi to even be fnaf I mean if you’re going to involve science with the supernatural at least do it right

[@Namenotaken]

The room is real

[@danninmatthews5640]

53:14 Could be FnaF AR models.

[@wordfr]

I honestly agree with you

[@KrispyRodent]

What happened to your old OC? I prefer that one.

[@lokkomotive8153]

So why would the crying child die to them

[@juliebarrette8585]

Feels like star wars' situation but worse...

[@slimewizard7350]

Honestly I kind of love how incoherent the plot is because it reminds me a lot of 20th century horror movie franchises like Scream, Halloween, Friday The 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street. Those franchises did PLENTY of stupid shit with the story and I love them for it. Lets be honest here, every famous horror franchise from that era had a “Sister Location.” Even the settings of the games have that mix of atmosphere and campiness that I associate with retro horror. You could put Springtrap in between Freddy Kreuger and Jason Vorhees and he wouldn’t look too out of place. You could even compare Security Breach to a soulless Hollywood reboot of a beloved franchise that forgot all about why it was so beloved. Theres gonna be people telling me this is stupid because the story is so much deeper and darker, and to those people I say ever watched Scream? And then theres gonna be people calling me stupid for comparing a stupid little kids game to famous horror movies because we all know how flawless of a movie franchise Friday the 13th is. But I dont care about either really. I find fnaf charming. I find it fun. Yeah theres child murder but if there’s people who watch Nightmare on Elm Street for fun or quote Pennywise in everyday conversation, I think I’m fine calling the fnaf franchise oddly endearing. Tl;dr: I love fnaf because its stupidity reminds me of classic 70s/80s horror franchises that got a bit silly.

[@BlueAmpharos]

What is Fnaf 6? I can't find a game titled Five Nights at Freddy's 6.

[@paprikadevil6405]

When he's says fnaf 6 he actually means fnaf pizzaria simulator because it's the 6th fnaf game

[@BlueAmpharos]

@@paprikadevil6405 Okay thanks, I didn't know Pizza Simulator was so important to the lore.

[@paprikadevil6405]

@@BlueAmpharos that's alright 👍

[@BlueAmpharos]

@@paprikadevil6405 Okay thanks. It just, it was advertised as a spinoff game so I thought like FNAF World it wouldn't mean much. Not that I played the games, wasn't much for that gameplay style, and while I found the lore somewhat interesting I wasn't going to buy a bunch of games I had no interest in playing.

[@ender01o66]

​@@paprikadevil6405 it's in the source code

[@datingwiafusexclubdatingwiDOKI]

Well you see why he was orange is that the Lord exclamation is that he wanted to troll everybody and that’s Cannon because Scott loves trolling people here to say Dawson make trolling Kenan and William was orange before for some reason because trolls yeah lol also Lucas William wanted to irritate the Fanbase. We decide to be orange before, turning purple before irritating and frustrating everyone

[@datingwiafusexclubdatingwiDOKI]

Oh yeah, Scott also wanted to make a quick buck like half of the tragedies of Vino, his own games lol in the soles of the children in the story that’s the real plot twist here with the story is that he was also working with fast bear entertainment lol I mean the part about him you know, making a quick of the tragedies that happened

[@AnonymousIdiot69]

Fnaf should’ve ended in pizza simulator

[@datingwiafusexclubdatingwiDOKI]

Dear, sweet Elizabeth, the reason why you can’t go near her house, because well really did not add safety features for you pacifically and Michael and CC do you know if the Fun Time’s I don’t have safety features for you yet but really he should add before doing what he was doing you know

[@superalsters3484]

So are the Glamrocks hunted?

[@Starwarsfan2020]

No just corrupted by a virus

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

All true Fnaf fans view Fnaf 6/UCN as the true ending to the franchise.

[@Sir_GrimReaper]

All true fnaf fans know the fnaf 6 ending sucks.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

@@Sir_GrimReaper that’s an opinion

[@Sir_GrimReaper]

@@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta that's totally correct when you actually reading with the writting in mind, instead of "THIS ENDING BADASS THEREFORE IS GOOD" it's badass, sure, but that everything going for it.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

@@Sir_GrimReaper I don’t like it because I think it’s badass, I like it because it was a nice way to wrap up the series. 1: Freddy Fazbear’s pizza no longer exists and can’t hurt people 2: Afton is dead for good 3: Everyone else is dead and resting It’s just a nice way to wrap up the series.

[@Sir_GrimReaper]

@@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta a nice way the series that completely implodes in on itself if you actually use your brain and notice how bad it is. So many characters got destroyed before their arcs concluded, one of them felt like he was an after thought and another looks super stupid for falling for trap that he knew about.

[@datingwiafusexclubdatingwiDOKI]

I’m sorry for you not like in security breach. I wish you could don’t want your help for the ruin. DLC and I wish tha could be fixed in the original security breaches story by making story could be fixed with with Vanessa, and with the with William and do new things with it as you said, no, I’m sure it will be so don’t worry about things and you like things again

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

THE CAPCUT💀

[@datingwiafusexclubdatingwiDOKI]

50:35 50;34

[@Hamantha]

I always thought the 1983 was just the release date of the animated series. Frustrates me that it wasn’t seen like that

[@ender01o66]

He said that it was the year himself.

[@Hamantha]

@@res2674 holy shit I’m sorry

[@kaotic763]

FNAF Security Breach is the embodiment of “But wait, there’s more!”

[@ender01o66]

but it has always existed since 2015, I'm not sure why everyone's surprised

[@caldercockatoo2234]

@@ender01o66 2014. Besides, the problem isn't that it continues the franchise, it's that it ruins what little story the previous games had.

[@ender01o66]

@@caldercockatoo2234 the FNaF 3 minigames that Security Breach is based off of originated in 2015

[@ender01o66]

@@caldercockatoo2234 how did it ruin the story? both Henry and William are dead

[@caldercockatoo2234]

@@ender01o66 What do you mean it's based off the FNaF 3 minigames? Also William seemingly ISN'T dead, along with whatever the Blob is, so Henry's plan failed, which ruins the previous "story".

[@gaspardsavoureux8680]

Security Breach genuinely drives me nuts, what they did to the perfect ending of Fnaf 6 is the worst thing they could've possibly done.

[@RelentlessSketchStudios]

I know! It was a solid ending, if not, the BEST ending!

[@-FUN-08]

HW already ruined it with Glitchtrap

[@ender01o66]

​@@-FUN-08 how?

[@-FUN-08]

@@ender01o66 Glitchtrap is still Afton

[@ender01o66]

@@-FUN-08 no? William died in FNaF 6

[@bemusedraven457]

I went to resume watching this after I had to pause 20 minutes in because my wife wanted to watch your kirby videos to find it was gone! Glad to see you re-uploaded it and hopefully the copyright strike gets resolved quickly as I hear they can be a pain in the ass. Keep up the great work and keep your mental health in a good place while you do so!

[@danielsurvivor1372]

45:38 Scott Cawthon: SIIIIIIIIIIKE! GET ANOTHER DOSE OF BS LORE THAT I MADE UP ON THE SPOT AHAHA! LIKE WILLIAM, I WILL A L W A Y S COME BACK!

[@VividVirid]

Sometimes less is more and the broken lore of this franchise is evident of that

[@LichoLetum]

Solution is simple - give us new story, new villan, new characters. But they WON'T, cuz they are scared it won't sell.

[@MakotoOPT]

It wont sell. Look at the movie for example it is shit and poorly written thats what you get when scott cant hide behind being vague

[@riadmohsen3228]

Let's be honest. The part where the lore of the game really became rundown was when steelwool came into play.

[@Al3xthefrog]

I would say Sister Location is THE point where the Lore started degrading. We had the first Trilogy, where the story was about the murder of 5 children, who murdered those children, what happened to the murderer And how the pizzeria burned down afterwards, setting the souls free and ending the story. Then we had FNAF 4, it being a somewhat prequel to FNAF where we learned about "the Bite of 87" and how it happened (until Scott retconned it). Then SL came and turned what was once a horror story about paranormal activities at a pizzeria, into a Sci-fi puzzle game with way too many plot holes to be saved. Then Steelwool came along and we know the rest.

[@ender01o66]

​@@Al3xthefrog no one has figured out who Murdered the children, that's why there's more than 20 entries in the series

[@real_needynerd]

@@ender01o66 what do you mean no one knows who killed the children?

[@ender01o66]

@@real_needynerd Because everyone's assuming William killed them, when this is never actually shown.

[@bonesthecreator4984]

Sister location entered the chat

[@eLiminator506]

I especially hate how Sister Location, the 1983 TV detail, and the books massacred FNAF 4. The idea of a child having traumatic nightmares is way better, in my opinion, than a father doing an experiment on his son. And apparently, you don't even play as the Crying Child in FNAF 4... You play as Michael. I seriously hate how the Michael got forced as the protagonist for a game that used to be intended for someone else. The CC literally got robbed out of his OWN GAME. It also sucks that the bite of 87 pretty much became irrelevant to the FNAF Lore. I remember back in the old day how important the Bite of 87 was in the story, now it's just there to exist pretty much. FNAF 4 would in my opinion be a great end for the franchise and idk why Scott suddenly decided to extend it more.

[@funninoriginal6054]

I just wanted to point out that even in fnaf 1-3 the bite wasn't important at all. It was just a throwaway line to give more life to the setting. But people clung to it like beggars do to cash and now we're in this mess.

[@decomposingdave2902]

@@funninoriginal6054I mean it was a mystery back then and it could have had something connected to the missing children incidents or the identity of the killer nobody knew back then for all we knew it could have been the most important detail in the story

[@sleepy_maxxz2366]

To me this is how the lore goes: The first three games talks about the story of the missing children and the murderer’s demise. The 4-6 games would talk about the Afton family and their deaths, fnaf4 about evan, sister location about both Elisabeth and Michael, and finally Pizza Simulator, where the souls of thr family can finally rest, all but William himself where he is stuck in his own hell (UCN). Then finally the vr, ar, and fnaf SB would start a new story of (which to me is unnecessary) about a digital copy of William out to kill again. This is how I interpret the lore and you can disagree if you want, but i think the lore should’ve ended in Pizzeria Simulator.

[@sleepy_maxxz2366]

I still think game 6 would’ve been a hood place to stop

[@partyblook7699]

Would have been perfect for it to stop at 6

[@ender01o66]

@@sleepy_maxxz2366 evan? the name from the logbook is evaD or Dave backwards, the fake name used in the Silver Eyes, Dave Miller

[@Al3xthefrog]

Finally, I found someone who shares my views on FNAF's lore. This game has gone through so many twist's and turn's and so many unexplainable plot holes, to the point it no longer makes sense! Like, who the hell is Cassidy and why is she so important to the lore all of a sudden? Why is she so "vengeful" and "hateful" towards William. WHAT did he exactly *do* to her to deserve it?

[@ender01o66]

Cassidy has been here since FNaF 1 FNaF 1-3 is the Cassidy trilogy after FNaF 3 Cassidy is put on the backburner until Security Breach and she's not vengeful towards William, he's just another victim of who Cassidy is vengeful against I really hate when people create fan fiction and claim it's the FNaF story and explain why their fan fiction is bad so the actual story must be bad too

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@@ender01o66 I really hate it when people act like their interpretation of events is the Canon version of the story. Especially with such a blatant lie. The name Cassidy has NEVER been mentioned prior to FNAF 6 and UCN. In fact, the name wasn't even mentioned in the ACTUAL games! It was a secret from a crossword in a fucking children's activity book! The lore is so inconsistent that UCN and the subsequent games can't even agree what sex/gender Cassidy is. How on earth can you say that Cassidy was anyway important in the original trilogy? More importantly than Charlie, Evan, or Michael? The first being established since FNAF 2? This is more their story than Cassidy. At least we knew they existed without having to complete and decipher activity books.

[@ender01o66]

@@grandempressvicky6387 we didn't know Cassidy's name since the beginning, that wasn't my point. you r/whoooshed yourself, but it's not even funny :/ Yellowbear has been around since the beginning, even if we didn't know their human name. I don't see how the robot human Charlie is important to the original games? she was first introduced in the spin-off novels in a separate timeline, not in FNaF 2 Evan is a fanmade Gacha Life character, along with Chris Afton :/ and we didn't even learn much about Michael until after the Cassidy trilogy so please, do some research before spreading blatant misinformation

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@@ender01o66 Charlie was more important even before we knew her name because she is the one who made the events of FNAF 1 and 2 happen by saving the children by putting them in the animatronics. She was always trying to stop William, which is more than what nobody Cassidy has done. Cassidy literally came out of nowhere and is made important on the basis of what? That she was one of FOURTEEN kids that were killed? It's really embarrassing that you use Golden Freddy as "proof" of Cassidy being important when 1) the only soul people cared about in GF was Crying Child before the Game Theory episode and 2) Golden Freddy had done fuck all in the series as an independent actor. At most he accidentally killed Crying Child, was the way Aftom tried to control his son, and happened to be the animatronic that Cassidy ended up in. She could've ended up in Freddy, Bonnie or Chica and NOTHING would change or make her/him more important. Golden Freddy was an Easter egg. Even when he was lore important, the phrase "It's Me" has NOTHING to do with Cassidy but with Crying Child trying to communicate with his brother. Cassidy is only relevant in UCN because Scott, for whatever reason, wanted to focus on her/him and STILL didn't do it properly. We know nothing about Cassidy other than the fact that she/he was murdered. Like I said, we don't even know what their sex is! So to have the audacity to claim that the original trilogy is CASSIDY'S arc and not Henry's, or Michael's, or Crying Child's, or Charlie's, or even William Afton's is absurd.

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@@ender01o66 Omg did you even watch this video? Have you ever watched a Matpat theory or been in a FNAF space? When did I even mention robot Charlie? I meant the little girl who was the one to be killed even before Suzie. You know, the first crying child before FNAF4? The puppet? If you knew anything about this fandom is that Scott explicitly said that while the books are a separate universe, the fans and theorists are encouraged to make use of them to explain events in the game. That's WHY he created them, dumbass. The games give him very limited scope in divulging lore so he used the books to substitute. Literally everyone but you knows that at this point. So while robot Charlie is not cannon to the games, the character Charlie is.

[@Hamantha]

Poor Phone guy had no idea what he was doing or what was going on and got merked

[@BlueAmpharos]

33:23 You're telling me this ISN'T Purple Guy? If this isn't William Afton, then that means William resembles a rotting corpse then?

[@ender01o66]

Scott explained years ago that William isn't literally purple, purple is the colour of corruption, and represents William slowly getting corrupted until he becomes possessed by Glitchtrap hence the obvious white eyes of possession while Mike is kinda literally purple, corpses aren't actually purple, but yea, he looks like a corpse

[@k.ms.perkins8644]

Jeremy Fitzgerald Getting bite By Toy Bonnie Bite of 87 - FNAF 2 - Fritz Glade Favorite Blue Rabbit aka Toy Bonnie As well. Alongside with Bonnie Glade Vengeful spirit As Toy Bonnie was inspired by the Toy Chica as well as laughing Boy as well