The Bucks Even the Series | The Bill Simmons Podcast

[@m11rrrs]

CP3’s injury is named Jrue Holliday.

[@onedone2011]

fer real

[@LaskInHD]

Exactly. Seems like Bill just granted CP3 an injury out of nowhere.

[@berbishmcglerbish8994]

Imagine if jrue holiday could put the ball in the basket?

[@m11rrrs]

@@berbishmcglerbish8994 yep he needs to slow down a bit before he shoots

[@Itakotsu]

@@LaskInHD he's playing with a torn ligament in his hand

[@sethfaulkner7158]

Shout to ryens consistency on this take. He has always hated the injury after a loss narrative the media pushes and shout out to him for sticking with it with one of his guys.

[@sethfaulkner7158]

Why he’s my favourite

[@razkable]

cp3 injury is called giannis khris jrue pat tucker...and brook/portis at the rim as well..at some point thats going to scare you over time..they know what cp3 likes to do now...as long as teague is out of the game cp3 has no matchup he likes

[@sethfaulkner7158]

@@razkable true he’s a player that picks apart match ups and I think Jrue is doing a good job. That being said cp3 needs to go out swinging game 5. Not passive.

[@othellorucker8107]

@@razkable this is so true bro

[@Joes35]

@@razkable Jesus Christ just stop watching. Cp is scared? Are you dumb? He averaged 25 and 9 on 57 percent before having one bad game and now he’s scared?

[@kammalvojodi1302]

Man, Bill piss off about CP3 excuses. Giannis hyperextended his knee more than a week ago & had one of the best blocks of Finals history. Bucks fought back & deserved the win.

[@user-jg1ez6kk9e]

Very true

[@theBIGBLUTO]

Nice to see Ryen upgraded his rehab facility, nice bulbs !

[@onedone2011]

Nice, Kahuna!

[@bacardibum]

he's actually in someone else's house for this

[@JHines-dw1ce]

The fact that you all are starting the podcast off talking about Chris Paul being hurt when Giannis is playing after damn near destroying his knee is crazy. Chris Paul had a terrible game. Leave it at that.

[@Joes35]

Just because it looked some way, doesn’t mean it was a bad injury. It was a hyperextended knee. It wasn’t almost anything. Chris Paul played terrible.

[@JHines-dw1ce]

@@Joes35 Ummm. Not sure about that buddy.

[@Joes35]

@@JHines-dw1ce what are you not sure about? He wouldn’t be playing if he destroyed his knee. He’s not wolverine. He’s not hurt at all.

[@JHines-dw1ce]

@@Joes35 Now you know that I did not say that Giannis destroyed his knee. I said he damn near destroyed it. Even if it was a terrible sprain, that usually takes 2-4 weeks before your knee feels semi normal. The fact that he performed that block, jumping off of that same knee just shows that he's willing to put his body on the line to win. Chris Paul is capable of the same thing which is why an injury should not come up as an excuse as to why he played a terrible game.

[@humza9460]

There was no structural damage, relax buddy

[@rtblues]

It was Booker's 8th foul that really pissed me off... And add Lavine heat check!

[@jamesmarshall6619]

On Book's 8th foul he sat on the bench and the refs STILL almost kept him in there.

[@Will_kid_cortez]

It's fun living in a household of suns fans lol bucks in 6.

[@WhelmedButReady]

Is Bill Simmons remembering a different game? This was absolutely an all time Finals classic game. The drama was perfect. Booker and Middleton going shot for shot, the foul trouble drama, the blown calls and of course the Giannis block. How on Earth, do you not call this a classic game? This could easily be the best game of the series

[@dantegobo2178]

I was almost leaving mad at the end, until Ryen mentioned Manu... he had a great series in the 2005 NBA finals against the Pistons, with great numbers for low scoring games

[@markrico5096]

He does not belong lmao.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

One could argue that Manu should've been Finals MVP for that series.

[@canadadry4609]

In voting duncan only barely beat out manu. He was an absolute beast.

[@somersetbassett4580]

Gotta say "decided not to call it" is a cop out.

[@ManFinest]

Booker reminds me more of Brandon Roy

[@jamesmarshall6619]

That's a great comparison.

[@hinglemccringleberry11]

Facts it’s kind of weird how everyone thinks he’s Kobe just because he’s a good scorer

[@Kalinbuggs]

Shannon Sharpe said "CP3 said his right wrist is hurt but why does he have tape on his LEFT wrist??"

[@jordantaylor3570]

Bill Simmons says Chris Paul just seems to lost his ball handling ability, and he wonders why. Maybe because jrue holiday started guarding him and there playing one of the best defensive. Give jrue his god dam credit

[@jamesmarshall6619]

As a Suns fan, CP3 might be injured but his injury didn't force him to throw the ball away several times. His handle seemed off but some of his passes were just lazy.

[@alifrombenhill3374]

A superstar in anything like sports or entertainment is a match of four things. 1. Supreme skillset and talent. 2. Can carry a team or group or performance on a consistent basis. 3. Their presence automatically means you have a chance or about to see something good. Culture changers. 4. They cross genres. People that don't like or care about their profession know who they are. The basically pass the mom test meaning your mom even knows them. Book is not a superstar. He is a great player. He is an all-star. A star player. But not a superstar.

[@arthurhenriqueguimaraes4969]

Bill Simmons already starting the Excuses podcast ft. inconsistent takes

[@mattwilliams7454]

I totally understand breaking down the last game. And attempting to draw conclusions from it. But its important to also consider games other than the most recent game. Love the pod

[@chasekamla28]

Can you guys put the whole pod on youtube?

[@humza9460]

I'm guessing they can't because of the Spotify deal

[@janrobertching8391]

How come when cp0 plays bad he is automatically hurt. How about he is not clutch and not the player every1 thinks he is. No way he is top 5 in the league right now. Not even top 10 pg All time. Give other players the respect they deserve

[@tombystander]

Bills percentages and top X's are starting to wear me out. Can only listen when russillo is here cuz he actually calls him out on it

[@carterfarris39]

What are “percentages and top X’s” ? I need context

[@yuvraj94]

@@carterfarris39 Constantly changing his top 20 guys... then if a player is injured he will say "He looked 69.9%" ...

[@markrico5096]

Then stop watching?!?! Lol

[@yuvraj94]

@@markrico5096 Cant criticize something people dont like? That is not how the world works man. Wake up

[@mentok3027]

It feels like 75% of CP3's turnovers happen in the deciding moments of close/important/playoff games. Guy is historically efficient with the ball, but seems to be super prone to either mistakes or injury at the worst possible times. Someone needs to make a compilation of it set to "Bad Luck" by Social D

[@mr.goodenough3796]

Yeah Andrew Toney " Boston Strangler" is never brought up now, but you're right, he had about a 5 year run where he was frighteningly good in the playoffs.

[@johnnytimestamp8224]

Don't forget zero 3's. 17 for 28, 42 points

[@nedryerson9971]

Russillo needs to get a ring light

[@OfficialJPryde]

If this was Harden or some other player, they would be eviscerating them. Give Jrue Holiday his props.

[@EzekielDBarrett]

gervin, vince, t Mac, drexler, Jimmy Butler, Jason Terry, Jamal.crawford…joe Johnson…Lou Williams… Alright I'm pushing it with the heat check But maybe beal and Mitchell and harden in the future

[@bucksn6ix]

Jimmy butler ??

[@isaactesfaye9760]

No excuses for cp3. Jrue is just locking him up

[@es7990]

Ryens serious facial expression is unwavering lol

[@Kalinbuggs]

where can we watch the full video?

[@billlarussa5908]

Bill, you forgot Game 4 of 2009 Finals: Derek Fisher hits a monster pull up 3 to tie the game when Lakers looked dead in the water, then win in OT to crush the Magic's title dreams to go up 3-1.

[@shutupjoeshawn]

BUCKS in 7

[@nate8415]

6

[@onedone2011]

ya, shut up joe-shawn.

[@Weaponator18]

This is probably the most frustrating thing about basketball media in general: if a guy plays poorly and the team loses, he's hurt. But when the guy lights somebody up, for multiple games less than a week and a half before, with multiple days off in between; he's perfectly healthy. Paul has to be better if the Suns want to win. Bucks battled back well, and deserve credit for doing so. They've made adjustments defensively from 'guard booker first' to 'wait, their entire offense runs through paul, guard him first'. and it's worked well for them. I don't think the Suns are cooked yet because of the point differential for both teams at home thing; but if Paul keeps playing this poorly they're toast.

[@Kirbystare1992]

Tired of the Chris Paul is hurt narrative 😑 he will play well game 5 and will all of a sudden not be hurt

[@Chipstacker1]

Bill, how do you not have tim hardaway on that heatcheck guard list? Check out his 3rd quarter vs the Knicks in those end of 90s playoffs.

[@TheShachattack13]

Regardless of whether or not cp3 is healthy, the bucks have the best player in this finals and the team that has the best player very rarely loses the series

[@AliMohamed-yq4wn]

Making excuses for CP3

[@razkable]

i hate how people overrate booker...dude does nothing but make jump shots...cool..but not many threes...hes so bad overall...hes a nice 2nd option...not a first..hes like ray allen in his bucks days

[@OfficialJPryde]

7:25 12 + 12 = 34? 🤔

[@onedone2011]

CP FRANCHISE CP MIDGET MAMBA CP BEST SHOT EVER WAS A PRAYER OVER TIMMY CP PRAY FOR RAIN

[@eugenesullivan3889]

I was told you are a smart basketball duo... i only liked because i want u to reach 420 lol

[@LaskInHD]

Granting CP3 an injury seems fishy to me. Maybe he just stunk?

[@ballinwithkicks8436]

in person more obvoius, simmons wouldve known 20 people at that game. I trust it more than paul just being a bad ball handler, I feel like that is the last thing you loose when you play bad.

[@WhelmedButReady]

@@ballinwithkicks8436 I think Jrue Holiday's just turned up the defense on him. He's realized that the most important end of the court for him in this series is on the defensive side. He's giving everything he has to a 46 year old in his 16th season and that's the key.

[@samjackson3940]

Why can’t you put the whole podcast on. You lied to us bill about the ringer not changing under Spotify. I miss the full podcasts. Thanks for selling your company and changing.

[@sgcraig2430]

I usually agree with Ryen, but questioning whether “the moment was to big” for Chris Paul is very laughable. It’s not hard to connect the dots, if he’s wobbling the ball and he was seen grabbing his wrist then obviously the injury is affecting his ball handling.

[@matthewweiss8579]

Tracy Mcgrady for shot making 2 guards

[@EzekielDBarrett]

This is gonna be some random career-ending off-court injury like Joe sakic with the snow blower 😂

[@2Muchpjp]

Did I miss a memo? This is the second time today a popular sports analyst shit on Mark Jackson.

[@ryanellisor8688]

Chris Paul legit just had Covid. Can we give the guy a little bit of a break??

[@thomasvancleave2310]

Do we consider Iverson and Irving as point or shooting guards? Roles in their respective teams were focused on high volume shooting. That and think Iverson is regarded as a 2 guard.

[@EmacMac-ph2zd]

Bill seemed off this podcast.... said he didn’t think AD was a superstar like what? Ryen called him out multiple times during the whole pod.

[@razkable]

when he mentioned dumars reggie and sam i laughed...the best shooting guards in the finals were mj kobe wade west ai...easy...why did he name so many like hondo

[@smtiewul]

@@razkable and he didn't mention Klay either, the ultimate heat check guy

[@emmanuelmoses7249]

Let's assume Chris Paul is hurt...So what? Kawhi didn't play a game vs Phoenix. Neither did Jamal Murray, AD missed half of the series and LeBron looked like he was hurt too... At the very least, Phoenix can beat a healthy Milwaukee right? Or is that asking too much ? Lol

[@chazman1011]

Would you put Iverson in that heat check guard category ??

[@Hendrix.Robinson]

Ryen, plus minus isn’t a useful tool to measure a players’ importance on the court. Cam Johnson is good and should be actually playing more.

[@xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx]

Even tho booker didn’t technically foul out, him having to sit cuz of the fouls screwed them still

[@razkable]

this game came down to the suns big three with 58 and the bucks big 2 with 66

[@Draw_Four]

Did they not say in the last series that Chris tore ligaments in his wrist?

[@NickLandess]

The 2 guard heat check list - Drexler? Or does he get disqualified for how badly he was outpleyed by Jordan?

[@thebestrapperindcthebestra6429]

Many was a different beast in the finals

[@darius6917]

...Booker's pass was bad though. Should have been an easy 2 points if Booker just placed the ball better. Look at when it leaves Booker's hand - the early timing is good because Giannis wasn't in position, but he just flipped it lazily and it went way too high, giving Giannis time to meet the ball back at the rim. Ayton never really even had 2 hands on the ball, just his fingers, and he barely even got control of it. Still an incredible play, but if the Bucks win the series, and we talk about that block in the future, people will always note that Booker messed up the pass, just like he messed up on that intentional foul that wasn't called.

[@brennomachado5585]

Name of the video: Bucks even the series. Manages to talk 15 min about the game only mentioning 3 bucks players, completely skipping a 40 pts performance.

[@NickLandess]

there was one throwaway comment about Middleton being fantastic or something.

[@joeb588]

Giannis and Chris Paul both looked hurt. Just lacked aggression and looked strange.

[@bookaufman9643]

I'm pretty sure that 12 less turnovers and 12 offensive rebounds is 24. Not 37 or 34.

[@chadwoff7892]

How about give holiday his flowers. Cause he been in cp3 shorts making him work

[@johnnytimestamp8224]

17 turnovers to 5 17 offensive rebounds to 5 End of discussion.

[@michaelisaac4439]

I understand Chris might not be healthy and played terrible but that last turnover was just bad I think he was in his own head at that point and he fumbled on a game tying possession

[@stephenlovelace9268]

I think home court is why the suns will pull it out

[@DW-rs1pr]

You guys are talking like it didn't come down to the last few possessions

[@nikkichilds459]

I guess they must consider Iverson a point guard

[@nichobarton]

Rusillos lighting is always lamentable

[@BigHoss03]

Buy a mansion with hanging chandeliers like Bill Simmons 5head

[@mypaldan]

Middleton drops forty and gets almost nothing, no props. Come on man. Where's the love?

[@onedone2011]

Jrue too much for CP2 or Starbury.

[@GlockBarium]

Is it “hastoric” or “historic”? I can’t tell anymore

[@travisstewart8655]

Always excuses, the dude can’t take the pressure never could.

[@d204b207]

giannis is not injured by chris pauls 4th injury in the playoffs that magically appear after a bad game. lol

[@rashadmabon8253]

Y’all come up with excuse after excuse for star players I just don’t get it then take so long to give bucks credit smh

[@ElPhenomenon]

I mean yannis literally hyper extended his knee 2 weeks

[@jc0257]

Chris Paul sucked and couldn’t get it going on offense I wonder what’s wrong with him… There’s this thing called defense🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@taneh9049]

Is bill..Ben Simmons dad?

[@Ken-jt9gn]

Seriously starting out with a cp3 excuse. This is ridiculous. Can you guys give the bucks any respect dear lord. Cp3 was fine in game 1 when he torched bucks. But now his injury is a huge deterrent since he’s played bad. Like cmon guys these are terrible takes.

[@micahredman2263]

Suns in 4

[@Kalinbuggs]

CP3 IS HURT EXCUSE LMAO OMG THIS MAN GETS SOOOO MANY PASSES IN THE MEDIA OMG

[@philjoneisom8884]

Is it me or is Bill becoming a shell of himself… the biased is crazy

[@arbernumani3709]

Ryan cant do Math 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@jamesmarshall6619]

He screwed up what he meant. It was Suns had 17 turnovers and Bucks had 17 offensive rebounds so 34 total extra possessions while the Bucks had 5 turnovers and Suns 5 offensive rebounds so he should have said a difference of 24 but yeah, that was some bad math on his part.

[@onedone2011]

CP3 is Stephon Marbury not Nash or Trae.

[@BigMir248]

Chris been hurt since the Clippers series. He said it in the postgame interview that he almost had to sit out the series because of his wrist. He's been playing like dogsh*t but the dude is hurt and that's leading to his turnovers and shot selection.

[@razkable]

right but in games 6 1 and 2 hes fine?

[@liamnicol9390]

@@razkable exactly

[@Kirbystare1992]

@@razkable a lot of his turnovers were unforced though

[@MrRobDolo]

horrible officiating for both sides

[@lostyly]

CP3 apologists

[@wynton921]

Devin Bricker = FAKE Kobe!!!

[@viralvideosdaily7873]

No excuse league

[@casualfandestroyer2503]

First

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

So there is no real injurie but again.... excuses..... ahahaha He choked...like he choked every year.. Stop with excuses.. Oh yeah...NON-American will win the title...Suck it.