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[@blakedickenson2394]

It’s hard for the general public to sympathise with this when most people dig holes for 8 hours a day, everyday.

[@BeTheSmileOfGod]

Most ppl definitely don’t dig holes 😂😂

[@garyjones5406]

​@@BeTheSmileOfGodI'm pretty sure that the digging holes comment wasn't meant to be taken literally ...but maybe I'm just digging myself a hole here....

[@abdul-hadimoussa5146]

If he couldn't handle earning 6 figures for training hard and playing a sport he loves, how is he going to handle the real world? What do you think his boss as a tradesman or office worker will do to him if he's late? Hug and apologise to him so he doesn't get upset?

[@Alekosdw]

@@abdul-hadimoussa5146probably nothing tbh

[@coreyjohnston9195]

And that’s their choice to have that career

[@tuufn8039]

Give me an nrl contract and I’ll wrestle the whole nrl 510 players.

[@KwisBwown]

naked

[@maxfish4770]

That's exactly what my nephew said

[@J-Bird1234]

​@@maxfish4770 everyone says that until they actually have to do it.

[@KwisBwown]

I wrestled a few of them on Saturday night 🤔

[@hoggers7572]

​@@KwisBwownnah that was Paul Kent who you planted

[@ronanrogers4127]

Billy’s got such great insights. You can see he’s going to be as good a coach as he was a player.

[@magic696]

Disciplined in mind and body is what I see and hear from Billy. All three commentators mentality’s showed why they were elite

[@Dengtui_01]

These three legends are all correct. We flogged at training too; it was only bush footy in Group 9.

[@noxcorvus93]

Riverina! Family roots there. Coota Bulldogs!

[@KaosRising]

I’m a landscaper I push wheel barrows dog holes and carry tonnes of material daily,Jackson any time you want to swap trades big fella I’m all for it! Harden up princess , I make $31 an hlur

[@60Bando]

You’re a labourer if you’re on $31 an hour, you should be on atleast $35 p/h + Travel/Meal allowance. Don’t take nothing less 👍🏻👍🏻

[@garyjones5406]

Bloody right mate! These guys are great athletes without a doubt but over-paid and spoiled rotten. I remember bumping into Terry Randall years ago on a job , he was in first grade and was playing for Australia but drove a concrete truck for a living ....these guys need to be thankful and respectful for what the public and the game , has given them.

[@doogi30]

you wouldnt last in an nrl training session, stick to digging holes mate not a single player cares that you dont like your job lol

[@yessirrr5182]

I'm a garbo and I make 39

[@peenweinerstein9968]

I’m sure if you were made to wrestle all your workmates for rocking up late you’d have a case as well!

[@patcummins6036]

I can understand why Queensland will win the State of Origin with Billy as coach!

[@seanp7871]

🤡

[@maxfish4770]

Stick to cricket mate 😂

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

Two words for why QLD will win - Micheal Maguire

[@JoshuaRoberts-kq9cs]

NSW commentators write QLD off every year.Personaly i sit back and watch QLD dominant the series.​@@BenWick-oc8pv

[@dbo4506]

Don’t be late. Simple. And if you are, accept the consequences.

[@Damonicus1]

Also, don't be late on more than 1 occasion.

[@peenweinerstein9968]

What are the accepted consequences of being late?

[@hoggers7572]

​@@peenweinerstein9968A paddling

[@JoshuaRoberts-kq9cs]

When i rocked up late to school I'd get the cane.All that archived was me developing a fetish for the cane.

[@t.t6191]

Yeah WITHIN the law. Noone knows what actually happened so... it has to be investigated unfortunately.

[@Flobastino241]

The bloke is just soft, ffs

[@Proudman12152]

That’s the new generation now. It’s all about money and fame. No more tough men just soft man! The game soft

[@peenweinerstein9968]

Career ending injuries and he is soft? Shoulda just walked it off. Also nobody cares about mental health anymore supposedly?

[@loufrost824]

@@peenweinerstein9968 So sick of the mental health card coming out everytime these pampered athletes need an out. When a normal person doesn`t do their job or becomes too much trouble, they get fired and nobody gives a damm about their mental health. Your Boss isn`t your Daddy.

[@peenweinerstein9968]

@@loufrost824 alright dude not toxic at all… hope nobody around you is suffering from any mental health issues , we should be supporting our mates whenever possible if you ask me

[@viol8r007]

As a chef , i should have sued my employer for making me work split shifts

[@jaromeasdale7157]

NRL teams aren't above OH&S laws. In a legal sense there is no difference to an employee in an office vs an employee on the footy field, they all have rights and all employers owe a duty of care.

[@magic696]

Is the Army above OH&S laws (I really am asking) because if they are pushed to and then beyond their limits and quit then they don’t deserve to be there. Or can they run to the courts and say this is a workplace and I don’t expect that kind of treatment??

[@jaromeasdale7157]

@@magic696 that's a decision for the Court.

[@Norm96]

Nobody has really brought this up but around the same time this happened there was a bunch of injuries sustained at bulldogs training, tevita pangai left, Brandon burns left and faitala mariner (the club captain) spoke to ciraldo about the tough training regime. All of them eventually leaving. And now we see the bulldogs improving.

[@bigtomivan]

bang on. ciraldo came from penrith and brought penrith standards. The players who left were the ones not up to standard

[@justinsmith4562]

Pantai is weak as well. Sooky generation.

[@paulywalnutz5855]

Jackson Topine could of just copped it on the chin and dealt with the dogs internally, and he could probably have sorted out an avenue back to playing or another role within the club and as a doggies fan i can speak for the entire fan base, we loved him. He was like a younger version of Josh Reynolds the next prince of Belmore and future captain. Now hes just propper gronked himself lol

[@sphiinxog6111]

And if he had dealt with it internally and didn't like the treatment at the club other clubs WOULD NOT know about this and he could have potentially moved to another club. Now his chances of that are slim to none and he knows that so he's taken legal action.

[@nigelmcculloch3746]

Someone has put him up to this (hey we can make some money here!)

[@dbo4506]

@@nigelmcculloch3746 you’re probably not far off the mark. Poor guidance for the sake of a pay cheque. A shame. Kids career is done at this point. What he needed was when he went home with his bottom lip out having a whinge was a strong role model tell him to grow a set and go back to training with a point to prove. Instead I bet they just fuelled the fire and encouraged him to be a victim.

[@nigelmcculloch3746]

@@dbo4506 couldn't agree more, like they pointed out, it's a tough physical sport, it's not for everyone, I would be shocked if any court let his claim be heard!

[@yessirrr5182]

​@nigelmcculloch3746 no way he wins, they're gonna look at his situation and know he's just looking for an easy way out,

[@jasonwaterford5942]

OMG here in the real world …….. I’d rather say I survived training and I played…. Not I sued and sulked….

[@aj-qj4lt]

And yet here you are on KZbin sulking....

[@jasonwaterford5942]

@@aj-qj4lt bait taken I’ve got and earned my trophy 🏆

[@Idkidk55957]

If you told me to play nrl all I had to do was wrestle the whole squad I'd say let me do it 5 times in a row. Fight the first 3 and cruise the rest

[@moganfreeman6036]

Obviously that wasn’t an option.

[@fu8713]

Ooh we have a tough guy here 😂😂😂😂🫣🫣lol

[@Abc1231x1]

You take the shoulder hit out and suspend Spencer for banter now you want to cry cause training is hard..fair game

[@ThurstonWatt]

it's "banter" to you, but your opinion on the matter is literally irrelevant. some people really do talk just to make noise.

[@user-sg5jf9cp4q]

I think more damaging to the game is the six again calls called from somewhere in the stands for ruck infringements. If you only rewind it you can see there is no infringement. The bell goes at least two or three passes later. Why is this not scrutinised? No media coverage? The game is open to manipulation and it is lacking integrity.

[@Joseph1988]

Agreed. It's all corruption. All these BS 6 again and ruck infringement calls are all rubbish.

[@george447]

@@Joseph1988 NRL needs to be rebranded to NRL MAFIA

[@Joseph1988]

@@george447 agreed 👍

[@matts3191]

I think if Michael mentioned at the opening that he is now unable to play due to physical and mental health issues after the wrestling session, the panel probably would’ve had a different reaction. Instead he mentions it at the end of the segment and Billy just says that’s sad. Sad.

[@afp854]

not everyone is made for professional sport, thats why you and i are commenting on youtube videos

[@dogsofwar811]

@@afp854perfectly said mate. Not everyone can do this.

[@moganfreeman6036]

@@afp854that’s not a part of professional sports, he’d be fined or suspended if they didn’t have that bush league mentality. He should’ve told the coach to kick rocks as soon as they suggested that punishment.

[@dbo4506]

He can play. He trained after that session and his manager was seeking deals with other clubs right up to when he decided to go down the legal pathway. He’s saying he can’t play because he wants money. Not because it’s the truth. Think about all the veterans with REAL mental health scars that still turn up to work day in day out. Adversity builds character. Something this kid clearly lacks. He is the typical modern day victim. An embarrassment to himself. Life’s not meant to be easy.

[@TheShepdawg9]

I call absolute bull. He's claiming mental health issues now that no team wants him

[@Paul-ik8fm]

I want to be a nrl player and I didnt make it so I am going to sue all the 17 clubs because its there fault I am not good enough.

[@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310]

I struggle with how on one hand they’re basically saying he’s being a sook, but if someone is called what they consider a slur then they need to wrapped up in cotton wool and protected. What’s harder on your mental health? Getting thrashed by your entire team or some outside of your team calling you a bad name? Surely if you have to be tough enough for one, the other should be a walk in the park?

[@74_pelicans]

this is not how you draw comparisions lol

[@dbo4506]

@@74_pelicans why?

[@paulmitchell6485]

​@@74_pelicansyes it is

[@fins6191]

​@74_pelicans why don't you enlighten us? Or did you just come to be generally smug and superior

[@adrianprice7959]

Fair

[@dogsofwar811]

I have a friend who works in rugby league and there is alot more to the story then what they are saying here. I’ve been a dogs supporter for over 25 years and let’s just say I’m in full support of this player.

[@Chris-tc6ws]

Why would you say that and then not say what you think actually happened? Why would we just take your word for it that it was more then just wrestling

[@sqd849]

@@Chris-tc6wscause he made it up

[@KwisBwown]

yup. i have heard the same thing from Doggies lawyers....things aren't being revealed by the committee to save face

[@jasonbran4887]

​@@KwisBwown Oh so we're supposed to believe your words too? Lol

[@mritsme9901]

Well said @Chris-tc6ws people big noting themselves pretending they know something when they don’t. I’d have a bet they don’t support the bulldogs at all.

[@11Acky]

Try Grading for a Karate Black Beat, 40 full contact 2 minute fights one after the other with no breaks. Seen it happen and the person doesn't complain

[@darrengifford7442]

Send him too Billy Johnstone

[@thor_6886]

Fine for the panel to talk about finding out how tough someone is, pushing them to "breaking point" says Joey. Hmmm, a Manly player died after a training session in 2020 from "exertional heat stroke". Is that the type of "breaking point" the panel thinks is okay? It's the same idiotic argument about head knocks - in the good old days when players got knocked senseless but came back on later the commentators said how tough he was. Now we know about the long-term effects, yet some pundits still reckon the game has gone "soft" over the concusssion protocols...This won't be the last lawsuit, that's for sure.

[@MotivatedMan]

You are a professional athlete, paid to the highest degree and as such should act like it. You don't even have the respect or decency to turn up on time as your top priority. 10mins of punishment is more then enough, some people in everyday jobs making 50k a year get the sack for being 5mins late to work for genuine reasons. We aren't talking about them trying to ruin his life, like Billy said, his punishment for other clubs is a regular training session and its that attitude why the same clubs no matter what stay always competitive and at the top. The bulldogs have a coach, staff and players who all understand that and its starting to show.

[@peacelove5370]

Might as well go play badminton if your soft😂 or better yet go play with some barbie dolls it’s a job and a good one don’t have a cry when there is people cleaning toilets for a living🤷🏽

[@maxfish4770]

Name one pundit who says the game is soft due to hia protocols, you can't

[@QwidgyboMan]

It was 21 degrees the day Titmuss died. He's an anomalous case. Go back to netball.

[@thor_6886]

@@maxfish4770 Here's just one example for you. From ABC news: "...with Phil Gould espousing his views on Channel Nine's 100% Footy, labelling the NRL's approach - which saw 19 players taken off the field for 15-minute head injury assessments across eight games in round one - "concussion hysteria". Canterbury's general manager said the league had bowed to pressure from the media, lawyers and even doctors in taking a cautious approach to concussion protocols...". Rugby union already has a class action lawsuit from former players, league will be next.

[@kevinwaters5872]

Look , when your boss asks you to do something in the work place you can refuse. The consequences are then negotiated. That is all that is happening.

[@healthymindhealthybody9692]

Don't get me started on being late !!! I trained to swim for the Olympics when I was young fella. I would swim2 hours before and 2 hours after school and on weekends for hours per day . Now when I was swimming, I would swim until I would vomit and That's when I stopped to wash my mouth out so I could continue training. In winter my coach would put 20 odd bags of ice in the pool and tell me the only way I can get warm is if I don't stop swimming. My coach screamed on the side of the pool when I trained and had a bucket of ice cubes to throw at me if my swimming stroke was incorrect or I was going to slow . Training also included keeping dumbels out of the water above my head and only using my kick to stay afloat, also having a rubber strap to my feet so I had to use my arms to stroke a certain distance and if I didn't I would have to keep doing it until I did . This is just a little tiny tiny taste of what I had to do . You know what , as hard as I trained and I did beat some great swimmers back my day I still never made the Olympics, I was close but not close enough. NRL training is to be somewhat the best in Australia, when you become an Olympian you train to be the best in THE WHOLE FUKN WORLD 🌎. This guy who's having a winge about training to hard is actually the weak gutted dog Sticky was pointing the finger at . Pathetic If you want to play NRL , you take everything that comes with it . If you don't cut it , then change your career and find something else you're good at .

[@ChongMasterFlex]

“You didn’t even have to be late” hahahaha

[@cozzau]

I love the old players vs workplace health and safety arguments. “It’s just the game argument vs no sick days, no annual leave, no paternity leave argument is funny

[@yessirrr5182]

New generation are soft and you're one

[@ChongMasterFlex]

Go play soccer

[@Jacko89]

What should players get for breaking team rules? A written warning? A meeting with HR? They couldn't drop him to reserve grade since he already spent all his time there

[@maxfish4770]

For a start, no sick days? They can be injured the whole season and still get paid in full

[@cozzau]

@@maxfish4770 ever heard of workers comp or income insurance?

[@user-sm8cg9cr7v]

A possible solution for clubs in the future that allows them to discipline players for breaking the rules might be to have clauses in the player's contract that says if you are late for training, for instance, without a reasonable excuse, the player gets fined $10000. If they do it again, $20000,. Keep on doing it and we tear up your contract. A player losing their own money is a big incentive.

[@trip-h3161]

If we don't push ourselves to the limits we won't able to know what we are capable of when the times gets tough.

[@colinmartin6804]

Never played footy came here aged 22 love the game its tuff it can be brutal at times to me only big bruisers play got to be slightly crazy too disciplined on and off field when get big $$ you have to expect tuff training to keep up with other teams

[@manmountain3205]

Billy is just awesome honestly

[@johnfrawley5706]

i worked two jobs to support my family i found time to stay in shape and play with my friends in a league on sundays i went in to work on some monday morning in pain but i loved the sport i paid club dues to play i cant understand these guys complaining about training but i guess itts all about heart

[@bfuisting]

It is not surprising that an employee sues an employer for physical and emotional punishment that dates back 20 years. What was acceptable 20 years ago in sport, schools and workplaces is no longer acceptable in today's society. Regardless if it is a professional sport or not, an employer still has a duty of care to their employees.

[@justinharwood5922]

The size and stamina of players today are so much more advanced then when any of these guys played. If the story is true and i am not convinced it is. I think the bulldogs are in trouble here. The law will not carre they are a professional sport.

[@ptasau35]

would be interesting to hear some thoughts abouts case vis a vis the Keith titmuss case

[@t.t6191]

He must have something, evidence or witnesses otherwise why would he sue? You can't brush it off without knowing exactly what happened. It's not about your stories about training or anyone elses its about that particular incident.

[@nathansolo2605]

There is no clause in the workplace safety legislation that excludes professional sporting clubs. It its irrelevant whether incidents of arriving late for work have a history of punishments. What is not discussed why they are late, bad traffic, sick children, appointments etc. The law is not in the Bulldogs favour, they will settle.

[@lazymaile8723]

A fine would've been mire necessary or even dropped from the squad to reserve grade...

[@westyw6117]

Topine sounds a bit soft to me

[@fightingsloth]

Even at JiuJitsu not even near a pro level we would have to grapple without a break for HOURS in order to go through a grading. We never got paid 😂

[@johnfrawley5706]

and yes wen he says dig holes i believe he means doing physical work i kno there r other guys like me who played for the love of gamd ja'maine hopgood( not sure i spelled that right) dad died after playing reserve grade thats heart im sure ja'maine doesnt complain bc he had the right role model

[@JoshuaRoberts-kq9cs]

Trouble is in this modern day and age we live in alot of people think manual labour is someone's name, not hard work.

[@johnfrawley5706]

i cant understand y people r mocking a guy who is landscaper or a garbo saying they couldnt cut it in nrl its not about cutting it in nrl its about appreciating a god given skill that others including myself wd give my left pinky to have y troll another man?

[@BenWick-oc8pv]

If the Bulldogs do an out of court settlement, they should be fined by the NRL or even suspended for a season. Not even our incredibly #%$ed up legal system could fine in favour of the plaintiff. He was not locked in a room and told he couldn't leave until the punishment was completed. Anytime he wanted to walk out of training he could have done so.

[@mrtjpeno1141]

About time. Your making sense andrew

[@MrBobbit666]

ol mate obviously is not cut out for the nrl if he wins in court that would be an absolute joke come be a steel fixer or anything in construction see how ya go mate and see if ya can survive on our wages he had it sweet

[@harryealedona3782]

AJ and BF kept closing off Billy's great insights.

[@user-uk7se7ez7r]

Gee, things have changed since George Piper's Balmain teammates used to get him out of the pub on Saturday to play in the main game.

[@daleviker5884]

You bet. They play on Sundays now. 🙂

[@mikediao15]

People are being dismissive of his claims. If the wrestling caused him injury then that’s not right. There is a line between abuse or discipline. NFL has rules against these treatment and I believe NFL is tougher than NRL

[@maxfish4770]

😂😂😂

[@mikediao15]

@@maxfish4770 Facts though. NFLPA or NBAPA won't tolerate what Bulldogs did to this man... I say sue their ass.

[@BillyBones69]

None of the talking heads are actually addressing the claims. The claims are about humiliation and workplace bullying. I don't have a strong stance on the issue but its pathetic watching them all strawman what could be a legitimate problem.

[@terrypoulos4183]

The word your looking for is intestinal fortitude

[@sampenno4368]

Why did he not start with the statement at 10 minutes? Completely wasted discussion because they didn’t realise the actual accusation

[@RobertEscudier]

I suspect if it gets to court then you are going to have a problem. Tough guys that you all are.

[@Hawaiisbigkahuna]

I don’t get it. 4 million for what ?? Does he think that he was going to earn that amount and that’s why he is asking for that amount. He was a fringe player and I’m sure he want on massive money like a Cleary.

[@pdu83]

As it was said and been said if he had just kept his complaints in house he could have just settled and perhaps gone somewhere else... now no one is going to want to take him.

[@garyjones5406]

Correct. If I were running a building crew and knowingly employed a guy who had previously sued his employer over what is normal practice, I'd be a bloody idiot.

[@eddiediesel9035]

The last thing you need is a HR department.

[@manbearpig7359]

7:14 Geez, if that happened to this Jackson donut he would be suing for SA

[@moschopsmad]

Rightly so

[@loufrost824]

His just looking for "go away" money. Classic former employee shakedown, i`ve seen this happen before and it usually works, to expensive and messy to fight it. Next he`ll be whining he can`t get a run at another club, totally oblivious to what his done to himself.

[@magic696]

100% right from the commentators. He couldn’t do what is required and is wanting money for it. He wasn’t gonna be playing at $400k for the next 10yrs.

[@ciarondunn6655]

Lol. Ex footballers and WH&S. Where amongst other things, employers need to - Providing a safe and healthy work environment for all employees. - Identify and eliminate hazards in the workplace to prevent accidents and injuries. - Consult with employees on health and safety matters to ensure their input and participation... 🤔

[@user-lm2wz5qf5o]

Why is Australia turning into the most over sensitive country since Canada. Embarrassing move by this player!

[@rileyedwardsfilms]

We are deffiantly not ahaha, did you listen to the panel talk about it?

[@imalwaysright]

Canada is one of the best countries in the world. The world could learn from them

[@user-lm2wz5qf5o]

@@imalwaysright that’s a great joke have you anymore. The most woke society under the trynny of Trudeau

[@ShaquilleOatmeal730]

He definately owes the local gang money and in massive debt.

[@kevinfurner9399]

They still dont get it, they are trying to compare group punishment to being singled out to be humiliated

[@user-ic6tc4re6i]

Well, they should bring in a legal expert to give insight into the legal side of things. At least a legal prediction of some sort.

[@yessirrr5182]

It's called penalties, anyone stuffs up they get punishment, it's part of discipline, he's just soft

[@peenweinerstein9968]

Because the legal standpoint is simple: it’s not legal to order people to wrestle each other as a punishment, regardless what your job is

[@Unbearable.Unbearable]

All clubs will be looking at this closely. If the Bulldogs pay out any $, lawyers might draft future contracts to include the player not holding the club liable for any punishments imposed by the coaching staff.

[@paulmcgeechan8503]

And there’s the reason why Queensland beats NSW. Billy Slater, the smartest man in that room by a very long way.

[@nswpublicservant]

The double standards reeks. Sure being flogged at training in the old days was the way to go. Now sports science proves it's not necessary. So on one hand for Johns being belted on the field is the old bad ways.. but being flogged at training is okay? A young kid from Manly died from extreme training in heat. A young kid from the Bunnies nearly just did until an abnormal heart saved that club some scrutiny. The duty of care to players/employees is more important than 'the game/club'. As for the old players being tougher, get real. They were drunks, with beer bellies who couldn't get run in A grade these days.

[@monwell250]

Ask his team mates to comment!

[@bigh2710]

They completely missed the point. I personally think topine needsbto harden up but he may see it as hazing which is illegal

[@mikemm9827]

Freddy went soft with Blue's training that's why they lost!

[@arthurwatts1680]

I have the utmost respect for Joey's accomplishments on the field, but when it comes to off-field behaviour I'm more interested in Billy Slater's opinion. None of these guys were boy scouts during their playing career but men like Slater and Lockyer kept their names out of the tabloids.

[@maxfish4770]

Lockyer is no clean skin, like Joey his club and media looked after him

[@difdaf436]

I think this highlights the problem with society in general and the way it’s heading.. I won’t elaborate but if you agree with me you will know what I’m saying..

[@jacktattis]

If the Bulldogs settle, terminate his contract with the settlement and other teams do not sign him up.

[@loattavanavanua]

If i ever had the chance at a shot at the nrl i would not be showing up late to training...! The real world is tough working an 8 to 5 consistentlyis hard.. the nrl isn't for everyone but boy would i love to have a chance at playing code for 6 figures! Up the Wahs!!

[@ProdSaintAlexiz]

Ok go wake up at 3am and train for the nrl…

[@maxfish4770]

​@@ProdSaintAlexizsince when do they start at 3am, maybe once a season for army type drills. I get up at that time to go fishing. They train, massage, eat and sleep, real tough.

[@ProdSaintAlexiz]

@@maxfish4770 they don’t but those that say they would do anything if they got an nrl contract wouldn’t do anything to get an nrl contract

[@maxfish4770]

@@ProdSaintAlexiz some of them would and do

[@dermothegerty9020]

Imagine just waiting for all the facts to be known before having an opinion

[@HenriHattar]

Playing a whole game with a busted cheek bone is NOT tough, it is plain stupid.

[@damowantswealth]

Some of this sounds like hazing no?

[@RobertLewis-el9ub]

Here we go again - media talking about a case that is before the courts.

[@Dude-etiquette]

Horrible the ex-players saying it’s ok and happens all the time. This is unacceptable

[@Damonicus1]

Why? Pretty sure they had to deal with a lot worse in their time. These guys still have a hand in their respective clubs developments, so they would be well aware of what goes on behind closed doors. If you're late to work, you're made to re-coup that time in some sense. This guy had to wrestle 30+ players, allegedly, and he is now dealing with physical and mental stress. Maybe our nurses, ambos, police, etc should do the same and sue their employers because they have it a lot harder than an NRL player.

[@Dude-etiquette]

@@Damonicus1 I think its important to be balanced. They have no idea what this guy went through, they can't compare what they went through which could be very different or the same, but without knowing they need to be balanced, rather than saying its ok cause it shows they will be there when needed. Plus Joey and Fittler were the stars of their teams so they would've been treated very differently. When you are at the bottom of the team you would have a very different experience.

[@peenweinerstein9968]

⁠@@Damonicus1if the public service got made to do anything like this for rocking up late then they would 100% have a surefire case that this is unacceptable. Just because it was done in the past doesn’t make it right, and just because other jobs experience worse conditions in their duties doesn’t make it justified.

[@peacelove5370]

OMG it’s like everyone is going soft🤦🏽 let’s give up contact sport and play badminton 😂

[@maxfish4770]

​@peacelove5370 yep, just don't hit it to hard, might upset someone

[@CharismaticIslandBoy]

It’s a tough one but agree with Joey. The NRL is a tough sport and training is part of that. Good luck to the player but this os dangerous for clubs moving forward

[@rabbits77]

Joey is spot on

[@TheOrigamiPeople]

Bring back unlimited tackles rule.

[@RitchButch]

If that was Andrew John son I'll bet he will want to take the bulldog to court we need to adapt with time wat happen here abuse of power

[@Paul-ik8fm]

Its obvious he realizes he isn't going to make it in the nrl because he hasn't got the skill and mental fortitude, and is taking the easy way and suing. Very sad he has to take the role of a victim.

[@berniemaibom214]

Couple of tins of harden the Fup

[@ajm82]

Joey said he doesn't know Jackson as a player...lol That's concerning because isn't he a rugby league tv analyst? Sounds like he nor the shows producers prepare themselves enough before going live 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@joshloreto2676]

Topine, buggest sook in nrl history

[@ThurstonWatt]

as opposed to you, not a part of NRL history at all, just very brave on KZbin

[@Flobastino241]

@@ThurstonWattlmfao. Topine is part of nrl history alright. Not the history he wants though hahah . And also the irony in your comment calling out soemone on the internet. On the internet 😂😂

[@Matt_Rides]

Right up there with Ezra Mam. What's happened to this generation?

[@dbo4506]

@@ThurstonWatt tbf Topine isn’t part of the NRL either 👋

[@imalwaysright]

@@Matt_Ridesracists always looking for an angle. Ezra living rent free.

[@scotkimlin5627]

Wish I could sue for doing 20 mins hard work. What a cat

[@owbei]

Sounds like Bulldogs need an HR department 🤣🤣

[@bencostanzo2062]

Lady in red 😍

[@papaluskask999]

If show up late work too many times at ANY JOB you'll be SACKED 😂

[@riposter69]

Panel and comments section is full of super tough guys and I'm quivering in my boots with fear. But some points of perspective 1) Given the roads around SW sydney is it unrealistic to not come 10 minutes late? 2) Coming late is dumb but the punishment is also dumb as it seems like a bigger waste of time than his 10 minutes for the whole squad and now legally its going to cost them. 3 ) Can't have it both ways saying "harden the F up!" but then racial slurs and mental health issues are devastating for some players. 4) By the same token a footy team is not just a professional workplace where HR can set the job descriptions its closer to a military regiment or a mens society with initiation ceremonies. I expect he will get a payout but not $4M

[@KwisBwown]

Fantastic take lehd

[@walkerbruz]

That’s just soft if your late to training there’s penalty’s

[@stephenpalmer1099]

If I turn up late for work I get fired.

[@joshdunn2372]

Has any one here seen a crew of fob form workers …. If One of their boys turn up late they have to run the gauntlet straight out of the alimak 😂😂😂

[@maxfish4770]

Yeah pure gold 😂 my old boss used to send you home and don't bother tomorrow either, no work no pay, only happened once

[@mr.savage6671]

No one likes to feel humiliated in front of anyone especially mates and colleagues. It sucks that he feels that way but at the end of that you make 5 x more than average person, it’s hard to feel completely sorry for him.

[@truthonlyhurtsthewicked]

There's a reason the Frogmen are an exclusive club. Imagine one of those soldiers who didn't make it in the Navy Seals suing the military because it was too hard.🤦 SOFT generation.

[@74_pelicans]

so in your day everyone suffered and didnt say anything, we are standing up to bullying and saying no. imagine caring about yourself?

[@truthonlyhurtsthewicked]

@@74_pelicans Sure, if you want to create weak men, go ahead. But weak men create harder times. If you are correct, why is this generation the most mentally ill?

[@truthonlyhurtsthewicked]

@@74_pelicansCreating weak men will only ever end badly for EVERYONE. Weak men create harder times. Look around at the mental health of this generation.

[@Matt_Rides]

@@74_pelicans man you sound like you put caramel sauce into your soy latte.

[@darkstars-torpedoes-of-truth]

@@74_pelicans I apologize on behalf of the world for hurting your feelings, it must be terrible for you.

[@antidepressant11]

Joey boasting about his tough punishment. I think he is a grandstander recently. He likes upstaging other commentators .

[@joeyclark3995]

Poor form Topine!

[@BradRohl]

Call it off the games finnished players these days r so special with hurd feelings girly boys tomy wil rolling in hes grave

[@graemehuia5964]

Punish me I'll sing a song naked.

[@noellzy]

Man, I hated Billy as a player. As a commentator of the game, only his fellow villain Cam Smith comes close since Sterlo left. He always has well considered and respectful takes.

[@andrew_l1900]

Simple solution for clubs, if you’re late to training and it’s not due to an emergency. You get your contract torn up and can join the rest of us with real jobs.