The Bust of Nefertiti - Famous Egyptian Artifacts

[@Ginny855]

I am German and had the good fortune of seeing the Nefertiti bust twice. Its beauty is truly mesmerizing! Everyone interested should be able to see it at least once. But sadly that's not possible. We cannot send the bust on a worldwide tour or something. That would be ridiculously dangerous both conservation- and security-wise. That's why I think giving it back to Egypt permanently is the best thing we could do. When you have to decide for one country the bust should be where it comes from. Where Nefertiti herself lived her life.

[@Ginny855]

@ Thanks for your reply 😊 The difference is that the Nefertiti bust wasn't excavated in Germany but in Egypt, whereas in your example the Roman artifacts would be part of your country's own history. The Romans lived and worked there because your country was part of the Roman Empire (right?). So they would have either produced the goods locally or got them from another corner within the Empire. That's why in my opinion you wouldn't need to give them back to Italy. Not because the Italians aren't the same people as the Romans, which they clearly are not, just like modern Egyptians aren't the same people as ancient Egyptians, as you pointed out correctly. But because the Romans themselves would have used those "artifacts" on the spot. The bust on the other hand was neither produced in "Germany" nor was it imported there within Nefertiti's lifetime, but millennia later. The ancient Egyptians had nothing to do with "Germany" back then, so they are no part my country's ancient history.

[@marktrain9498]

If Egypt were a politically stable country, I would agree. However, we've seen what happened to the ancient Buddhist monuments in Afghanistan. I think the bust should be left where it's safe, at least for now. Perhaps in another hundred years, Egypt will be peaceful and stable again.

[@Ginny855]

@@marktrain9498 That's a strong argument against giving it back, yes.

[@Vanessa-yn4dx]

Why would they send back bc one is fake and one is real...

[@trinib3403]

All the bust that represents black people in Egypt always has the nose or lips destroyed. All the roman and Greek ones are fine.

[@madanagdi]

As an Egyptian happy to see your channel. at least they didn't say Nefertiti was German

[@thcreedon]

Yes they are preserving your history and not claiming it

[@clivepilusa7734]

​@@thcreedonit's not her history because her people are not the original.

[@clivepilusa7734]

As a modern Egyptian you have no real connection to Nefertiti. Just that fake bust manufactured in the 19th century. It's not your history.

[@jthev]

Love this Egypt 101 channel. I was very interested in Egyptian archaeology in my much, much younger days. Pictures of this bust certainly fascinated me then and still do today. In 8th grade, for Halloween, I wanted to go to my school's costume party as Nefertiti. My father made a headdress out of paper and glue, including a three-dimensional coiled paper snake on the front and painted it appropriately. I made a collar out of colored pasta strung on some yarn and my mother made a dress out of a white bed sheet to finish the costume. That was 64 years ago. I still have the headdress. It's pretty much in the same condition that it was in when he made it for me.

[@Egypt_101]

That is so sweet! ❤️

[@janejones7638]

That sounds like an amazing costume. No wonder you kept it.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

I came to this channel because of the Cleopatra controversy - love it. Nefertiti is awesome. It is so wonderful made. And it was made 2500 years ago. It demonstrates that ancient Egyptians were at least as skillful as us today or more. At that time Egypt was part of the Ottoman Empire - they didn't care to preserve anything, no value to them. So a lot of artifacts were "saved" from islamic barbarism (no offense). Legally what I can read it is clean that she is in Germany, as much as it can be. Being German I am in favor to give it back to Egypt. Egypt is not the same like 100 years ago. They are independent now and they take care of their heritage as much as they can. But they need international support.

[@elissahunt]

Museum exhibits frequently travel. Perhaps the answer here is for the bust to spend part of the time in Germany and part in Egypt. If the bust itself is a particular tourist draw, and fees are charged, these fees can be split between the museums (no matter which one is displaying it).

[@Egypt_101]

That isn't a bad idea, but this artifact in particular is problematic: It's extremely fragile. So much so that the museum has recently listed it as 'unmovable' because of its fragility. So I don't think traveling back and forth would be good for it.

[@elissahunt]

@@Egypt_101 Ah, yes. That is certainly a problem. In that case, I'm in favor of a return to Egypt. Their request came not long after the bust was discovered, and it can certainly be argued that the original contract was not entirely fair. (One wonders if classifying it as unmovable was calculated to keep it from being returned.)

[@Egypt_101]

@@elissahunt I do believe the fragility of the bust isn't just a convenient excuse not to have it re-located. 😉 Anecdotally, I have heard that one reason they were able to do a definitive chemical analysis on the paint is because bits and pieces of it were flaking off last time they moved it around. Before, it's unthinkable to scrape a bit of paint to test (though Borchardt did that back in the day), but since some came off on its own, that made it Ok I guess.

[@fierox88]

Difficult topic. Ancient art moved outside of its country of origin to all over the world can inspire many more people. Perhaps even to visit the country and culture it came from. Personally i think these museums should no longer own it but rent it instead (and pay the county of origin). Items that truly define a culture should move back, perhaps with a deal to return once every 5 or 10 years or so.

[@necrotenkiwongwat2359]

NO most countrys that owned the artifacts are mostly dead in the case of this artifact the dynasty/country Nefertiti belongs to have been dead/destroyed since thousands of years modern egypt is not the same country it's like saying USA is still a coloni of Great Britain now if modern egypt owned the artifact and it got stolen by modern germany then thats another debate for ex your father stole my fathers stuff but both are dead and I want my fathers stuff back what do we do. first concrete evidence it was stolen then if you have it we need to negotiate the price if we can not come to an agreement the negotiation would either break or be in a stalemate

[@StuSaville]

Ancient history is the shared story of all humanity, it belongs to everyone. I don't care where ancient artifacts like the bust of Nefertiti reside so long as they are safe and secure, preserved to the highest possible standard and accessible to any who wish to view them.

[@Hatem_M1]

You don't care because the artifact was not stolen from you country. It belongs to all nations to appreciate where it belongs, not to steal and display in their museums

[@hugehappygrin]

@@Hatem_M1 It wasn't stolen at the time. It was bought. Blame your own past politicians for the loss.

[@Hatem_M1]

@@hugehappygrin Egypt was under French and British colonization when all of these artifacts were taken out of Egypt. No independent government before or after these periods allowed for these "agreements", its just legalized stealing man

[@williamjenkins4913]

I would go even farther. It is good for artifacts to be outside their home country. Does anyone actually think we would all care as much about Egypt if their works were not spread to every corner of the globe.

[@Hatem_M1]

@@williamjenkins4913 lol how condescending is that?! So Egyptians should now be grateful that Europe stole its artifacts? I'm sure, otherwise, the world would not have noticed the massive pyramids in the middle of Cairo 🤦🏻‍♂️ When people think of Egypt, they think of Pyramids and King Tut, both are still in Egypt, so sorry but even your logic is not correct

[@joAO-87-TugA]

Definitely should be returned back to its motherland. Egyptian history belongs to Egypt 🇪🇬

[@clivepilusa7734]

Its motherland is Europe where it was manufactured in the 19th century. For the last time. Ancient Egyptians were an African people. They did not look like the modern population. They stated on several occasions they came from the interior of Africa... Not the Levant.

[@mahmoudhamdy1084]

@@clivepilusa7734المثال يرجع تاريخه الي ٣٥٠٠ عام 🤔🥴🤔

[@bluebear6570]

Most of the artifacts of ancient Egypt fell victim to grave robbers and looters and would have ended up either being sold off to dubious people or even destroyed. Those rightfully obtained, like the bust of Nefertiti, should remain were they are. Egypt has given up the ownership and that´s that! In case of the Benin bronce artifacts, the story is different. Legally, you cannot obtain ownership of goods stolen, but see what just happened when they were returned. Instead of being displayed in the museum that Germany paid for being built, they disappeared in the koffers of a member of the ruling family to be sold to those bidding the most. So many African countries have a rather careless attitude twords their own histoory and culture that I thin returning artifacts is debatable.

[@Egypt_101]

I have heard more than once now that the Benin Bronzes that have been returned have 'disappeared', but I couldn't find anything about that. What I could find was that the government has declared them the personal property of the Oba (king) of Benin, and that had a lot of people nervous because, like you said, he can do whatever he wants with them.

[@whoknows4756]

*RETURN EVERYTHING....LOOTER*

[@dja1344]

That’s a country’s history, and that is priceless it MUST go back to Egypt !

[@amiraxperimentalx]

Germany should return the statue as a sign of respect. At least, I would love to see it.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

I agree - saying it as a German. But there is a lot of movement, Germany is giving back many pieces especially to Africa.

[@Recklessbanana]

Tbf they appreciate it more than we do

[@hihello-yw3ty]

True, egyptian artifacts should be in Egypt where they belong And I think these great pharaohs would like their statues in their home land

[@FiveTrackTape]

I think Germany has a sort of "right" to keep it. We can't go undoing all past treaties and deals just because we wouldn't make them today. That said, I also think it would be magnanimous (and a great PR move) for Germany to return it to Egypt. Would love to see that happen.

[@Egypt_101]

Good points! 👍

[@blickluke]

Egypt can't look after its own shit

[@josephperkins4857]

exactly

[@MK67934]

No

[@rosemarybunch6846]

WOW, Fox! This new channel is amazing! The amount of new information you give, the way you explain things, the originality of your thoughts ... I just love all of this! I hope this channel grows as it deserves! I am not sure if the bust should remain in Germany or give back to Egypt ... after all there was an agreement and if the archeologist Borchardt didn't do the excavations maybe it would have never been discovered. So with this premises maybe it has the right to remain in Germany ... Roberta

[@Egypt_101]

Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it! 😊 Some items are pretty blatantly looted and should be sent back, but a rare few items are in that gray area where the answer isn't as simple... I should make a video about that! 😉

[@danielburbank9291]

What feels like it's British, but isn't? The contents of the British Royal Museum! I'm a big ol' lefty and that's definitely contributing to my opinion here, but, I think that any artifacts taken from ancient sites while a nation was under the rule of another nation is suspect. History has shown that museums have tremendous collaborative capability, and artifacts "owned by" their home culture can reside in other museums, travel the world in exhibitions, and so on. Similarly, faithful replicas can be produced that can offer the experience of the artifact to a wider audience, too. Thanks for the video, I love the new channel!!

[@Egypt_101]

The one I heard was "Do you know why the Pyramids are in Egypt? Because they wouldn't fit in the British Museum.". That's terrible, I'm sorry! 😉

[@tok713]

If you're going by that logic, do we demand that Egypt, Greece, Persia (Iran) return all the goods and return the materials they used to make these treasure through conquest? Egypt regulary sent it's army on expeditions to Libya, Syria, Nubia to gather materials and slaves? You can say "no more," but you can't selectively decide when the taking of treasure became acceptable out of agenda or bias.

[@joelhungerford8388]

​@@tok713also wasnt it the germans who recently returned some treasures to Nigeria but have now 'disappeared?

[@williamjenkins4913]

Dang that thing is beautiful. I love the elongated neck. As for were it belongs. I generally think artifacts should remain where they currently are unless it is in danger. What is most important is the preservation of our history and that means keeping these ancient pieces in stable environments. The sins of our fathers matter nothing compared to the education of our children.

[@TrickoTreatz]

It's not your history William

[@christophmahler]

As a German, I regard _colonial_ treasues as just that. Egypt governs itself and can take care of it's *historical artifacts that reflect it's identity* , so send the original back. If Egypt has any surplus artifacts it can spare, it may gift, lend - or have it exhibited, abroad until recall - stimulating *an exchange of archeologists between the countries, back and forth* - creating a bond of scientific research and cultural exchange. It is not like the discovery will be rewritten due to handing the items back - after the passing of the archeological finder, three generations ago...

[@tomate3391]

Well, Egypt was not a German colony. There was an agreement. Why should it not belong to Germany? If a German bought a house in that period in Egypt should he also lose his property. That kind of discussion leads to nothing. A completly another story would it be when they robbed it.

[@MK67934]

It should return to Egypt it's homeland .

[@janejones7638]

I guess an issue could be who did the work and who paid for the cost of the excavation? If only the German team did the work and they paid for all of the costs, I can see why they think they have a claim. Also, you said there was some paperwork that almost seemed like a contract that the Egyptians signed. Of course, it could have be signed under coercion. Just because the Germans did the work doesn't mean the Egyptians were in favor of if being done at the time and in that manner. Did Eygpt get their first pick on what items would go to who? If not, I can see why they might be angry because these artifacts are part of their history. In the case of this, I think either an international court should decide or just be decided by the parties involved since I'm an American. My couintry is less that 250 years old. Your country has been around for 10,000s of years. Great question.

[@Egypt_101]

In simple terms (the politics were complicated even back then), Egypt granted foreigners the right to dig and look for things, under the conditions that the foreigners would pay for everything, and Egypt got to keep half of what was found (and supposedly had first dibs). This was of course a very unregulated way of doing things and the personal bias of whoever was in charge dictated who got what. In this case in particular, the Egyptologist and responsible excavation inspector representing Egypt was a Frenchman named Gustave Lefèbvre and he oversaw how things were divided, such that each party was allotted seven groups of finds of comparable significance. The 'document' I showed was one of Borchardt's notes, the actual documentation is boring lists of things that look like Excel spreadsheets, but they also had photographs of the items, and Lefèbvre is said to have personally handled artifacts. But then Egypt's government changed, and the new people in charge wanted to undo what the previous government had done.

[@raguifarag7709]

Aa an Egyptian living in Germany... I have mixed idea, 1. They shouldn't have taken it from the 1st place, luckily it survived the bombing of the 2nd world war, not like the Bahareyasaurus, the dinosaur that was discovered in Egypt and totally destroyed in the bombing of Munich 2. Given the political instability and bad management in Egypt now, and the stability and better management in Germany, it's better to keep it in Berlin 3. Egyptians should enter museums with Egyptian stolen monuments for free :) and so with any nationality with their stolen work 4. When the safety of the statue is guaranteed (when Egypt has stability and good management, maybe in 100 year) then it should be transferred to Egypt with all the Egyptoan monuments everywhere... but then Egypt have to build like 5 additional giant museums

[@raguifarag7709]

Sorry for the multiple typos

[@nasaali1]

Give it back

[@aeldin131]

Perhaps shared custody? ... I think a good well move from Germany to have it present for the grand opening of the GEM would be an awesome move, if at least temporarily.

[@objetivista686]

The bust needs to stay in the safest place.

[@whoknows4756]

YEAH IN EGYPT YOU LOOTER...LOL

[@darkstar18498]

I good copy can be displayed in berlin.send it back

[@olgakuranova7986]

I think there shouldn't be a discussion about who owns a unique historical artifact - it's part of human history, so it belongs to all humanity. But it should be stored and displayed in a museum in the country of origins - only that way you could portray historical continuity: from before to after.

[@olgakuranova7986]

@Anteros1966 I agree, but I suggested it only for unique, one of a kind artifacts. A lot of items, even if they are precious, are not that unique: as in a piece of burial jewelry is precious, but there's enough to be displayed all over the world to show in which style burial jewelry was made. But if it's something that exists as a one piece only, I do believe it should be stored and displayed in a country of origin. Also you are right, to actually do this would be a logistical and political nightmare.

[@anniejefferson7329]

Were ever she was found is we're she should remain.

[@Peter-er3cd]

Nobody mentions that it is fake, like Tut's paraphanalia.

[@locusta4662]

simply because it's not a fake

[@Egypt_101]

But I addressed that in the video, it's been proven it's not a fake/replica.

[@devrayne6770]

@@locusta4662 The bust is obviously a fake lol it’s not even consistent with her other artifact. There are actually other fraudulent artifacts that he showed in this video. The fact that they didn’t even show her other depictions too says a lot…

[@locusta4662]

@@devrayne6770 sorry but not . They did both the carbon test and the refraction test , it's not a theory , it's a date

[@devrayne6770]

@@locusta4662 I stand on what I said. Nefertiti didn’t even have those features and definitely not that skin tone lol

[@ziyadpepe6291]

Bring it back to Egypt, you should be a shame of that theft.

[@kingofhearts1072]

It’s not Egyptian, it’s a forgery/fake.

[@leighmeow1680]

Its really not that complicated. Egypt is not in Germany....There for It does not belong to Germany. See, Not that complicated.

[@kingtut3021]

By the law of that time yes they devided artifact but all all unique artifact had to stay in Egyptian museum only items that had many of if there was 2 statue of same person could be split if one only it had to stay in egypt

[@travelingva]

The neckline is completely different than any other bust and it definitely should go back to Egypt if it's real...if it's someone's less ancient work of art it's still found and belongs in Egypt

[@Copies-q6d]

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[@istvanfoy-roberts868]

Solomon would have settled this by commanding it be cut in half.

[@Egypt_101]

😂

[@rondarobbins7194]

Yes😂👏👏👏

[@Copies-q6d]

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[@asilbarlas4311]

Germany, return the bust of Nefertiti to Egypt immediately. This is not a matter open to debate.

[@gregorystewart2102]

It should be shared as long as the German people respect and appreciate it.

[@Copies-q6d]

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[@Egypt_101]

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[@jjw56]

I thought this was proven fake years ago? How come they haven’t found another bust of similar style?

[@Egypt_101]

On the contrary, it's been proven to be genuine (by multiple disciplines), but the myth that it's fake simply won't die. 😉 The style of the bust is unusual, but not out of the realm of what an ancient Egyptian sculptor could do, especially during the Amarna period when Egyptian art in general had a big shift in style. As for there not being others of similar style, if this was a singular innovative work (like for example Van Gogh's paintings, which were of a completely new style at the time), it didn't stick around for anyone else to be inspired by it and copy it; it's believed it was just left in the sculptor's workshop when Amarna was abandoned. If there were more like it out there, we just haven't found them yet, or they have not survived the passage of time.

[@Alfadrottning86]

Not German, but i have seen it in the Berlin museum some time ago. - I think it should remain where it is cared for the best .. for future generations. Personally i think Germany is a better place for that .. maybe (and i may be a bit political here) because some muslim countries - aside from social and structural instability - have had ... lets call it - ideologies - formed that destroyed artifacts for good. And no, i do not accuse Egypt to descent into such barbarism .. but i believe that chances are higher for its destruction or improper care than in Germany. With that said - there should be an agreement. The item should return into possession of Egypt, but Egypt should agree to allow it to be displayed and cared for in Germany - and should not demand reclamation. I think it is more an opportunity for both countries. Rather than fight over it .. both countries (or rather museums) should partner up and trade exhibition artifacts. The permanent resting place of this bust should be Berlin, but that should not exclude it to travel to Egypt every now and then. At the same time, other artifact should travel to Egypt .. artifacts that may not have gone there otherwise.

[@bigw6882]

I put my dna in it that's why and now I'm blind in my right eye

[@phuryusstylesphuryustyles2273]

That’s NOT a hat It’s a HIGH TOP FADE

[@Chris-m8e]

EGYPT WAS NOT INTERESTED IN ARTIFACTS WHEN IT WAS FOUND

[@MrMelomalo]

It is well believed that this is a fake. Mainly because of the style of it does not correspond with the style of art of its day.

[@williamjenkins4913]

Artists gonna art. Yes you can trace styles through time but there is always going to be people out there doing themselves. Style concerns are not going to override the material evidence that it came from that era.

[@MrMelomalo]

@@williamjenkins4913 Then there's this: Thought to be an ancient treasure of the Nile, it may have been made in Germany less than 100 years ago. The bust of Egyptian Queen Nefertiti, considered to be the Mona Lisa of the ancient world, may be a fake, according to two art experts. Swiss historian Henri Stierlin, author of several books on Egypt and the Middle East, claims in his new work, Le Buste de Nefertiti - une Imposture de l'Egyptologie? (The Bust of Nefertiti - an Egyptology Fraud?) that the treasure, until now believed to be 3,300 years old, could be a 1912 copy. He suggests it was made by an artist named Gerardt Marks on the orders of German archeologist Ludwig Borchardt, who is credited with digging it out of the banks of the Nile south of Cairo in 1912. "It seems increasingly improbable that the bust is an original," Stierlin, who has been working on the subject for 25 years, told Agence France-Press.

[@williamjenkins4913]

@@MrMelomalo Ok what evidence do they provide to counter the hard science of spectrographic analysis? Just name dropping does nothing for me.

[@Diogolindir]

​@@williamjenkins4913 I wonder the same. I wonder what mainstream archeology gains by supporting a "fake" artifact like this

[@AdnanMasr]

It must be returned to its homeland. It was stolen 100 years ago. Germany gives lessons to everyone one on anything and everything BUT can’t follow by these lessons when it comes to them.

[@Stp-n-r]

it is rear in Egyptian arts because it is a German forgery.

[@michaelbendahwid8436]

It has already been determined to be a fake. It also doesn’t look like the other bust of Nefertiti.

[@amonone399]

Yes, that is true.

[@ogun9645]

Smart man, its crazy how all of this pp that claim they have phd in archology and study this topic can be that dumb and can not see it

[@TheAmrthe2nd]

who exactly determined that?, stop dealing with flimsy theories like it is facts

[@clivehope8409]

Even the dead cannot be allowed live

[@drapetomaniack]

C'mon man... everyone knows this is a fake... buddy boy just HAPPENS to find this bust in a workshop tons of people had been in.. smuggled it out of Egypt.. then didn't actually show to anyone until 10yr later... just forgot he had it. The workshop is from ancient times.. it could have EASILY been painted with ancient inks from the workshop from that time. It's SO obviously a fake it's ridiculous!

[@williamjenkins4913]

It has been proven to be ancient. Why are you so invested in it being fake? What keeps you from accepting the evidence for what it is? Im legit asking these questions.

[@drapetomaniack]

@@williamjenkins4913 because it has NOT been “proven” to be authentic.. some have just “accepted” to be so.. your basic premise is false! All the elements pointing to it’s authenticity could be faked.. the materials it’s made of make it impossible to prove it’s authenticity.. as you falsely claim. There is just too much weirdness about how it was “discovered”.. timing about how it got out of country and release for public scrutiny if it had actually been the find it would have been, if it wasn’t a fake. The style is all wrong.. show me another bust in this style.. it’s a OBVIOUS fake!

[@mrknightt]

LOL!....Yeah. Send it back. It's FAKE!. 😂

[@FatmaSayed-p1l]

The problem is some of the museums in Europe like netherlands museum starts to use the ancient egyptians artifacts to promote afrocentrism and even replicate the famous tut ankh amun's mask with a black person features and when the egyptians object they cancel our country from their site 🤣 but seriously now if you don't give respect to our civilization, you should not have any of our artifacts, I hope we take action on this matter, we can't trust these museums anymore.

[@ogun9645]

Bust is fake and dont match her other status

[@georgeibrahim9325]

If we delve into the history, particularly of Egypt, we find that when Napoleon Bonaparte's forces entered Egypt, they were disheartened to find that it did not live up to their idealistic expectations. Rather than being the vibrant, culturally rich center they had envisioned, Egypt appeared neglected, impoverished, with its ancient monuments in a state of severe deterioration. It was the French and English who first recognized these ancient monuments as treasured pieces of history, not just structures of stone. They took the initiative to protect and conserve these artifacts, thus preventing their further degradation. Moreover, it was these European nations that took the initiative to decipher the ancient Egyptian language, contributing to our understanding and appreciation of this incredible civilization. Therefore, the knowledge and admiration we hold for ancient Egypt today is fundamentally an outcome of the European interest, initiative, and scholarly endeavor. This standpoint challenges the contemporary notion that these artifacts were "stolen", instead suggesting they were rescued and appreciated in a time when their original custodians did not give them the value they deserved. An important point to consider is the identity of modern-day Egyptians. They primarily identify themselves as Arabs, a group traditionally seen as contributing to the decline of the ancient Egyptian culture. Given this, it could be argued that the caretaking of ancient Egyptian artifacts and the custodianship of their history might be better managed by those who have shown the necessary respect and scholarly interest in this culture - in this case, the Europeans.

[@MK67934]

What!! Sorry we are not arabs. I am not sure wbat smoking because seriously misinformed and the bust should be returned to Egypt. Period. This should not be a topic of debate period

[@justndowns3219]

Thats a fake 😂😂😂

[@OmG-nh6tk]

It's real ,cry about it😂😂

[@Copies-q6d]

Il y en a que moi l.electricite Il y a pas une autre énergie plus écologique pour notre planète ??? ,, reculer cette destruction électricité partout la population du monde entier.

[@stonefacejackson]

nope

[@olavwilhelm6843]

Let her stay in Germany i say !! I've been to museums in Egypt and i have seen the Bust in Berlin !!Believe me she is much better of in Berlin! Besides , artefacts like this don't belong to any country anymore but to the world !! If someone desires to see her , the 900 miles will make no difference . And while i am at it ....after you fixed your speech impediment you might wanna concentrate on the british Museum and see what thy'd like to "give back" let alone all the german art that is in private russian an american possesion after WWII....

[@RainbowWaffles]

I'm sure your opinion on cultural issues is of tremendous value, what with you not knowing the difference between a speech impediment and an accent.

[@markwinner274]

have you seen the new GEM -Grand Egyptian Museum ? Largest and most modern museum in the world.

[@Cakebattered]

Its a forgery, so why hold on to it?

[@Egypt_101]

But it's not a forgery. 😜

[@Here_This]

That bust is not as harmless as it might look . It is not "just art" . It is belonging to bad magic and might become fatal , if connected with the other ppowerful energies at the Kairo Museum . It wasn't just a sudden nothing that Hitler was in love with it .

[@Tribune123]

Obviously black as the ace of spades...not!

[@infanta4283]

Muslims are not interested in statues as evidenced by their scriptures and what Isis and the Taliban have done. Considering how close Egypt has come to becoming a nation ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood and that Egyptian treasures come from the time of Jahiliya (dark ignorance) that’s pre-Islamic, Nefertiti is safer in Germany. Besides - had it originally been given to the Egyptians - we would really not have been too bothered about it. There are unbelievable treasures in the Cairo museum and they really have to do their own marketing rather than relying on Westerners to trumpet the importance of antiquity contra Jahiliya.

[@pokeman747]

That's clearly a face not a bust 8 know I have definitely seen them

[@williamjenkins4913]

Nice

[@pokeman747]

@@williamjenkins4913 thanks bro

[@phonecharger6789]

No it shouldn’t,the Egyptians would change it to fit their lies

[@markwinner274]

why does she look black to you or are you blind?

[@OmG-nh6tk]

Lies?😂 Is it lies or is it facts that just hurt you and don't resonate with you uneducated opinions?🤔😂😂

[@jimtripman9002]

Keep it in Germany, it is fake.

[@paulocanlapan3191]

Yes give it back to the owner. Germany like UK should be ashamed of being thieves

[@thcreedon]

No because you can accidentally give the history to the wrong person and the history could be claimed by the wrong person

[@trollgod7565]

That’s not a black woman

[@williamjenkins4913]

Nope that is an Egyptian woman.

[@mikeyc7072]

It should be given back to Jada Pinkett Smith - the expert on all things Black and Female throughout history. After all Nefertiti was Black 😜😉

[@markwinner274]

LOL and Rosa parks was a garden

[@uncannytheos2454]

Oh the fake head bust

[@OmG-nh6tk]

Fake?😂

[@seanmc7128]

So now Egypt wants it back. Indian givers!!

[@picklewiickle.1583]

white woman

[@OmG-nh6tk]

We aren't white

[@christinecastro7212]

It belongs in Egypt it belongs to the Egyptian people it is their history and heritage the arrangements made between Germany and Egypt at that time are not important. It is an artifact that was in Egypt for thousands of years and needs to be returned. I have always felt strongly that historical artifacts belong to the cultures that created them, as a child I felt quite angry they were taken from where they belong. It’s ok if the Egyptian government decides to share them on loan for the world to enjoy but they belong where they were made.

[@freddiecarr7602]

She does not look Black to me?

[@MK67934]

Because us Egyptians are not black. That myth comes from baseless hearsay from African americans who of west african origin trying to steal my Egyptian culture and heritage

[@trevormcdonald385]

@@MK67934efore Europeans came and translated and excavated the ancient ruins you didn’t even know your own history - now money is involved and a tourist industry you claim it is your history? Why is it yours? You don’t look like the ancients, practice the ancient culture nor maintain any aspect of the tradition. Not even a single word from the language. Remind me why is it yours again?

[@markwinner274]

@@MK67934 Us Egyptians were never black nor will we ever be. This appropriation/cancel culture is part of a larger agenda by the woke left. These fly by night cultures will not faze our great nation and heritage of 7,000 years. As our great president says "Tahya Misr,Tahya Misr,Tahya Misr"