The Calendar Event

[@YeshuatherealSupermann]

Wow I need to start following the zadok calendar immediately

[@dews3340]

Thanks so much. We just finished watching the Calendar Event video. Luke the conductor of this fine orchestra of men was magnificent. These men were knowledgeable and well rehearsed. Luke produced an extraordinary, genuine and an unforgettable video. I shared it twice. The critiques of each calendar were spun like silk. Luke handled everything these men presented with absolute poise. The closing remarks were "jaw dropping" to me . This was a polished, unified discussion with clarity and crispness. Thanks to all of you, blessings............... Outside under the stars on the houseboat, lakes of the Ozarks drinking fresh spring water

[@KevinJStoll]

Thank you Luke for this round table discussion with these brothers of Yah. This was well done in love and respect.

[@Yah1stp2nd36]

I see unity despite different opinions on the calender. Brethren showing love to one another. You've all gotten the victory in this episode. Yah is love and love wins out.... for us the things to know is the Torah and the secret things are for Yah. Perhaps all these differences are a test to remain in love with the Brethren. You all won! YAH got the victory!!,

[@FolloweroftheWayTruthandLife]

I would love to see a discussion like this with people that follow the Zadok calendar but in different ways of interpretation and understanding. Shalom

[@FollowYeshua7]

Awesome! Thanks so much for this, what a wonderful example of we can have a discussion in love

[@TheLife_Podcast]

Our pleasure!

[@linak7155]

Woo-hoo!This presentation was done orderly and respectfully by each of the representatives of the major calendars. Luke guided the process well and demonstrated 2b the best moderator! 'Blessed are the peacemakers ...' 🌅 🌄☀️🌙🌚🌔🌕🌠 🗣🌾

[@emjmnc]

Thank you Luke for an excellent event. May YHWH bless you for your labor…

[@TheLife_Podcast]

Thank you for watching! Praise Yah for all the people who made it happen.

[@kellyd4221]

God is God of the whole earth. If you're stranded on a deserted island, you will find a way to know when His appointed times are. Here, ( in Ca) one of these calendars was keeping Passover when the lilacs were not blooming, which for 25 years have always been on my Passover table. Agriculture is a theme we must remember, even if we don't see whats happening in Israel.

[@robinbales4777]

Enjoyed this respectful conversation. The pursuit to dialogue with one another as we examine the scripture is very important and will help us understand the past so we can better understand our present day as well as what to look toward for the future. Keep sharpening each other brothers!

[@kinniejoduvall2053]

Both Steve and Dr. Bailey use scripture references. Loved their explanation of the correct Biblical way of the calendar. 📅

[@hiswordheals7677]

LOVED ALL THEIR CLOSING STATEMENTS! I came in late and am still watching :)

[@emjmnc]

Moutria just said it well, the lights and only the lights (in the heavens).

[@jacquelineoneill2395]

Fantastic discussion!!! I have been wanting something like this for a long time.

[@pamelahockenberry4567]

Shalom, this was very wonderful. Thank you

[@torahminder]

How is it that Zadok looks to the shadow of Teshuva (Equinox) then waits for the 4th cycle of a week to begin the year? Who authorized to not count the days that Yahuah made and to discard the authority of the Shadow on Teshuva (Equinox)? Where do we gind in Scripture the authority to desing our own calendar in opposition to the words of the Scripture?

[@ruthreya2873]

An incredible revelation stands out in the story of the Passover season told through the Zadok calendar. Yahusha took the Passover meal with His disciples the night before He died, on the 14th of the first month. He was executed the following day, on the Feast of Unleavened Bread (on the day the Jews prepared for the Passover on their calendar). This is significant if we understand that this week-long feast represented the Feast of the Firstborn, so to speak. During the Feast of Weeks (Shavuot/ Pentecost), the firstfruits of grain were to be brought to the temple. During the season of Sukkot, the firstfruits of all kinds of fruit trees were to be presented as well. All the firstfruits of the earth were required to be separated to Elohim for the service in the temple, including the firstfruits of the womb, which would be the firstborn of every human and animal. The Feast of Unleavened Bread can be seen as a type of feast of firstfruits: the offering from the womb. We see this correlation clearly in Exodus 13. As יהוה described what was to be done for the Feast of Unleavened Bread, He also added the following instructions: And it shall come to pass, when יהוה your Elohim shall bring you into the land of the Canaanites as He swore to your fathers, and shall give it to you, that you shall set apart every offspring opening the womb, the males to יהוה, every one that opens the womb out of the herds or among your cattle, as many as you shall have, you shall sanctify the males to יהוה. -Exodus 13:11,12 Yahusha is the perfect example of the firstborn which was to be given to Elohim. He gave Himself to the service of יהוה with complete and perfect obedience, not even fighting back the false accusations that led to His execution. By this selfless and sinless giving of Himself, by the sacrifice of His will submitted to יהוה, He was able to be resurrected and to receive His life back. He became the firstborn from among the dead, the firstborn from the belly of the earth. On the 19th day of the first month, when He appeared to Mary Magdalene, He refused to be touched by her as He had not yet returned to the Father. However, eight days later, on the evening of the 26th day of the first month, He allowed Thomas to touch Him. He was fulfilling what was commanded here: You shall not keep back the firstfruits of your threshing floor and press. The firstborn of your sons you shall give to me. So shall you do with your calf and your sheep and your donkey, seven days shall it be under the mother, and the eighth day, you shall give it to me. - Exodus 22:29,30 Yahusha would have been seven days on the earth before presenting Himself to the Father on the eighth day, proving that He belonged to יהוה and was fully consecrated to His heavenly service. He is ministering in the temple above as our perfect High Priest interceding on our behalf right now. Our Messiah is to be the firstborn among many brethren (Romans 8:29): those who love Elohim and are predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son. Let us, therefore, dedicate ourselves to living out the calling of the firstborn, demonstrating that we belong to יהוה, serving Him without restraint, and offering ourselves as living sacrifices, just as Messiah did.

[@DonnaWitcher-l4b]

Thank you for showing respect to one another!!!

[@vickib.6704]

I would like to add, it is disappointing that the Scriptural Covenant Calendar representative wasn’t included.

[@torahminder]

read the comments Vicki! :) Torahminder!

[@vickib.6704]

@@torahminder when I commented, there were 3 other comments. Thanks.

[@vickib.6704]

@@torahminder also, Tim, my first comment was deleted.

[@torahminder]

How can Zadok use intercalation to reset their calendar when there has been zero authorization to this in Scripture? And what about the word Shaneh (Gen 1:14) , which means to duplicate, do twice? A Zadok year reset (intercalation of any calendar) cannot be supported by Shaneh! When the Shadow of Teshuva is ignored, and a different day for year start is chosen on opposition of the shadow THE SIGN (Gen 1:14) then the word Shaneh (year) cannot be fulfilled as Yahuah designed and Covenanted. Right there in Gen 1:14 with the word Shaneh (year) any and all calendars which use intercalation are eliminated by the Hebrew language. Intercalaction is declaring Yahuah is not capable of creating a calendear which can stay in alignment with the seasons which He created, and needs MAN'S HELP to design and improve on Yhauah's Calendar! Do you reveive the import? Who is your Creator? Is He not capable of Perfection? Was the Thummim (Prefection) stone placed on the Breast Plate of Aharon just a facade?

[@torahminder]

How is it that Equilux can be claimed at the entity to determine the start of the year? Have you searched out on your computor on the different cities around the world to find their specific times of Equilux? The equilux timing has an EXTREME VARIANCE IN times around the earth! Which one do you pick for your time to start the year? Will Yahuah accept hundreds and thousands of calendars adjusted to the extreme timing of Equilux? Why not consider the Equinox (Tequfah) which is written in the Scripture at the STRAIGHT LINE SHADOW which does not curve (Ya'agov 1:17) and with this Shadow of Teshuva (Equinox) day the entire world is UNIDIFIED within one 24 hour period for Abib 1! Has anyonne broke down the word Tequfah in the Hebrew language and observed the deeper meaning and the massive authority that has been applied to it? Of not, why not? IT IS WRITTEN!

[@jobjoseph1815]

Thank you very much for this brethren! This is amazing and we need more of these debates and as Torah-keepers those will help us make a more accurate decision since we know the feasts are important to us as a christians. More importantly it is the most respectful debate I ever watched which shows grace, understanding and most importantly quest/searching for biblical truth....Let us continue searching the scriptures for more clarity on that important topic. I am a bit afraid of the citation of extra biblical sources as the apocrypha but I understand the point being made...thumbs up brethren, we would want a big venue with some exposés from the Presenters and Q&A Would come after the presentations.....

[@ruthteele3520]

Wow! Thanks Luke! Great job moderating!! Appreciate the men presenting their views. It was helpful to understand the foundation of each calendar. We’ll stick with Moses until Yah shows us differently. Shalom brothers!

[@Yvonne-]

The Vatican moved Yahuah's New Year from March when things are sprouting fresh, to January in mid winter??! We use the sundial to watch for His Teshuvah in March. Virgo is not holding barley, barley signifies the adultress. She is holding a branch. It's wheat NOT barley. Today is the 306th day of His 360. The week through the His 360 to the 366th day we watch for the Teshuvah. Yahuahs Covenant Calendar explains how to do this very well.

[@tsehelbenyosef2503]

Thanks Luke. You were magnificent as always.

[@gratefulprepsnj]

Awesome. Thank you

[@JoeCollins-y9t]

This is awesome!!!! ❤ 🙏

[@FollowYeshua7]

This is so good brother Steve, love and appreciate all the Scripture

[@torahminder]

In Ex 12 when Yahuah said to Mosheh, "This month is the beginning of months for you"! How did Mosheh know when that was? Have you read Acts 7:22? Mosheh was trained in the WISDOM of the Mistrites! What wisdom was that? Mistsrayim set their years by the Shadow of Teshuva (Equinox) seen with extreme precision on the Pyramids. The shadow was marked in the days before and the Shadow Sign was marked on the day of Teshuva (Equinox). When Mosheh was told by Yahuah this is your first month, Mosheh did not need any reminding, he had been trained in this system while living in Mitsrayim being educated for a future ruler position! When you look at the facts of the Sphynx, when a person stood at the tail of the Sphynx on the Teshuva (Equinox) the sun rose directly between the ears. Precision marked! Also the Mul Apin Tablets have doumented a 360 day calendar by the helical rising of the stars. #60 days per year. Where does Zadok stand with their 364 which never existed except in the moinds of the men who created in about 250 years before Yahusha came to this earth?

[@sharenwin3820]

Mosheh was told by Yahuah when the beginning of months was because Pharaoh could declare when the months and days was because he thought he was as Elohiym.

[@UntoEternalLight]

Looking forward to this!

[@FollowYeshua7]

Amen Steve. It is written

[@spirit-and-truth]

More of this please

[@WILLIAMHOOD-zc4ne]

Thanks Luke Abaffy. Your book, ‘The Truth’ is excellent … Interesting to learn of the support system being used for the calendars of those at the table. Dr. Arthur Bailey has my support; sighted moon from Jerusalem, Israel’s barley in Aviv, a timestamp of the Exodus (Exodus 9:31) producing the 1st day of the 1st month of a biblical year (Exo 12:2; Deu 16:1). Proof … a most important date in history …Y’shua died on the day of the Passover slaughter, a Thursday, the 14th day of the 1st biblical (lunar) month in 30 CE. That is the evidence that a sighted moon began the biblical month of Y’shua’s death in 30 CE. Y’shua obviously observed Yahweh’s calendar - to His death. Roman General Titus (later Emperor) surrounded Jerusalem in 70 CE on the 14 April which was the 7th day sabbath and coincidently the day of the Passover, the 14th of the 1st month, the biblical month. That month had to have started with a sighted moon. The people of the Dead Sea scrolls had to follow a solar calendar out of necessity being 1,150 ft below sea level. Accurate lunar sightings would have been unobtainable for them without a climb of 3,800 ft to a mountain top every month. However, they may have had solar knowledge of the date of the Exodus like one knows the date of one’s birthday. They observed Passover 14 days after the solar equinox. Yahweh wants us to follow His set-apart lunar calendar; a sighted moon that begins a 29-day or 30-day month in the Aviv barley window; the 1st month of His holy year. Joseph, Steve and Bill were unconvincing.

[@torahminder]

The precise start of the months, year and Festivals are very clearly written in Covenant Torah (Gen 1 to Ex 24:11). There is no guessing at all. Yahuah would not allow His people to flounder. And has zero connection to a moon of any phase. Zadok runs in total opposition to Torah documentation. The 364 calendar can never support a 360 degree Pi based eternity. The 360 day calendar is proven through ancient civilizations up until the sun dial incident with Hezekiah. The three timelines of Revelation (3.5 years, 1260 day, 42 months) cannot be fulfilled on a 364 day calendar. Zadok observed Wave Sheaf outside of the Feast of Unleavened bread is direct opposition to Joshua entering into Canaan and Yahusha's example of observing Wave Sheaf on Abib 18 within the feast of Unleavened Bread. How can a calendar be called Scriptural when it defies the words of the Scriptures? Many Zadok calendars start their year on the 4th cycle of creation, utterly defying the words written in Hebrew in Genesis 1:1-13. How can a time delete be Scriptural? How can the Tequfah circuit which started in Gen 1:1-5 be ignored by a calendar and then claimed a creation calendar? Are we allowed to ignore Yahuah's writings and design our own calendar? How is it that Zadok calendar declares Passover to be on 3rd Cycle of the week (Tue) every year and yet Scripture makes very certain of Joshua observing Passover on a 7th day Shabbat? Yahusha dies on a Midst of the week according to prophecy and when searched out, it was most certainly a 4th cycle or (Wednesday). And there are numerous examples of Passover - Abib 14 being on every cycle of the week, with no exceptions? How does that work for the Zadok calendar? It doesn't! Why does Scripture reveal is absolute precise detail that Mosheh started the 2nd year in the Wilderness on a 7th Day Shabbat in full accordance with otders from Yahuah? Yet Zadok claims a Wednesday EVERY YEAR? That does not align with Scripture! This is just a small tip of the iceberg of opposition to Scripture by Zadok!

[@Big_Daddy_Don]

Luke what a blessing this event was to me! I learned so much from each one. It was great that Steve said about loving each other. Where did you record this?

[@FollowYeshua7]

Wasn’t Yeshua celebrating Passover with His disciples but the religious leaders were not at the same time? Just prior to his arrest?

[@robertrambo9190]

Correct

[@torahminder]

Shalom, Yahusha was crucified at Dawn of Abib 14 (John 19:14) Impaled at the 3rd gur from Dawn (Mark 15:25) darkness at the 6th hour from Dawn (v:33) to the 9th hour from Dawn, when He died (v:34). AFTER THE SUN HAD SET, Yoseph requested the body. (Matt 27: 56-59/ Mark 1:32 evening is after sunset, then read ch 15:41 - 46). Mark declared the time after the sunset as the Preparation and before Unleavened bread. The sunset did change the day of Preparation. He was buried just before Dawn of Abib 15, see Luke 23:53 - 5t and see the word epiphosko - to grow light) it was not sunset! Then, THEN GO TO JOHN 19: 42 WHERE WHEN YAHUSHA'S BODY, was being taken off the tree after the sun had set, the lunar calendar of the jews began THIER COUNTERFEIT ABIB 14 PREPRATION AFTER SUNSET! TWO CALENDARS, 12 HOURS OFFSET! We ate Covenant Calendar Classroom have many extremely detailed studies all applied to charts to outline this magsnificent 12 hour offset. Yahusha was observing the exact same calendar that was blood ratified at Mt Sinai and it was 12 hours offset from the Jewish lunar calendar. Once you understand this factor, it will forever change the way you look at Scripture. Look up Covenant Calendar Classooom on u tube. We are here to help of you wish. Be Blessed.

[@smontanez1860]

Shalom from Avondale Arizona 👋🏼

[@DougWilliams-i3n]

Noah counted 30 days for each month ar 360 days total

[@mscottharwell]

and ... at the time of Hezekiah... YHWH whacked out the perfect 360

[@MrH4YAH]

Stranded on an island, you still do work. Even if you are just gathering and building shelter.

[@jameshenry1285]

You should have had a fifth guest representing catholicism and the gregorian calendar and why they believe it's biblical. That would have been a hoot.

[@DougWilliams-i3n]

Moses did not count a 364 day calendar, sorry

[@robertrambo9190]

I don't think abba would make it difficult. The zadoc calendar is easy and makes sense. All moedim are on the same day every year.

[@torahminder]

The problem with ZADOK IS IT IS IN TOTAL OPPOSITION TO SCRIPTURES AND DEFIES THE VERY LIFE EXAMPLE OF YAHUSHA HIMSELF! OOPs! capitals! If you want to see seriously dedicated study revealing the falacy and deception of zadok according to the Hebrew words of Torah, look up Covenant Calendar Classroom and there are many, many studies revealing the deception. If you want help with this let me know. Be Blessed.

[@hiliaryjewer853]

Shalom Mishpokah

[@zionsnest3084]

Shalom Dear Sis’ from Gwendolyn Caskey with Covenant Calendar Club on You Tube ❤

[@williamwest1931]

How does the Zadok calendar handle the times when you can’t have a seventh day week?

[@torahminder]

Zadok is in total opposition to Torah! Covenant Calendar Classroom has a great deal of studies dealing directly with this topic. Look them up!

[@nextlevelsolutionshvac1782]

I've never heard of not being able to have a 7th day. Can you please explain?

[@Yvonne-]

Robert Williams teaches on the Hebrew Mazzaroth and does a wonderful job, he proves there are 12 months always. The moon tells when to plant. You did not read anywhere in Torah or scriptures the moon described time. You read this in the added books.

[@sharenwin3820]

Gen 1:14 And Elohim said, “Let lights come to be in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and appointed times, and for days and years,

[@sharenwin3820]

The Scriptures never states that it is for agriculture.

[@Yvonne-]

@sharenwin3820 the moon isn't listed in scripture as an illuminary, because it has no light other than reflection from the sun. Also it can't tell time, it's out day and night frequently.

[@hiswordheals7677]

@@Yvonne- Psalms 104:19 says specifically and clearly the MOON Yerach is for Moedim APPOINTED TIMES... THE FEASTS hence also the months. The feast of UB begins on a full moon as does the feast of Sukkot 14-15 days after the first of the month. The light of the moon builds in brightness becoming its brightest marking and illuminating the beginning of these 2 feasts.

[@cowgirlmama4830]

For those who follow the Conjunction, does anyone have access to the Hebrew names of the constellations? I'd love to learn them myself, and teach them to my children.

[@jacquelineoneill2395]

Look up teachings on the Mazzaroth. You get what hebrew names we know. And cooler stuff.

[@cowgirlmama4830]

Thanks!

[@FollowYeshua7]

Its a 24 hour period of all the same time, when Yeshua at the meal then went to the cross. In other words, He at the Covenant meal on the 14th day verses the 15th day of the month.

[@jacquelinelafay647]

The moon is not in Gen 1:14.

[@sharenwin3820]

Let lights come to be.

[@Yvonne-]

Yahusha in John 7:19 hid from the Jews feast. They called their feast the Sukkot or Feast of Tabernacles. Yahusha refused to condone it by going to it, as He was sinless. But on His dawn day to dawn day 7th Day Shabbat, He indeed went to the temple a rebuked everything there saying John 7:19 Dis not *Mosheh* give you the Torah!(NOT ZADOK OR ENOCH) Yet not *one* of you does the Torah. He had contempt for the ways of the Jewish religion. His chosen were the Isrealites, but we are all grafted in equally. HalaluYahuah Adding 13 months is heresy. Not backed up anyplace in scripture. The 5.2 extra days added onto His 360 are from Hezekiah's request for Yahuah to move the sun back 10°. We are not instructed any place in Torah to compensate for those civil days, so they just set the while we wait for the Teshuvah.

[@hiswordheals7677]

He DID go to it. Went up secretly because they were seeking to kill Him. He just didn't show Himself IN THE TEMPLE until the midst of the feast... doesn't say He wasn't in Jerusalem the WHOLE TIME :)

[@Yvonne-]

@hiswordheals7677 noooo, He did not go to "their" festival (He called it). It's why the Jews were upset. Everybody knew the men were commanded to go to Sukkot. But you see, that Sukkot wasn't Yahuah's, it was on the Jews schedule. Their feasts were always ready (meaning adjusted) Yahusha said in John 7:6. The Jews moved their feast dates around, and even calendars, they even separated Unleavened Bread Feast from Passover at some point to make it fit on their lunar calendar. John 7:2 the festival of the Yehudim was near. He called it their festival, for a reason. The entire week of His crucifiction, if you wrote scriptures from Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, John was originally on Roman time (who were on Yahusha's DAWN to DAWN 7th day Shabbat), and make a diagram of the Scriptures pertaining to His death, you will see the 3 timelines in scripture. Yahusha's day is Dawn to Dawn, the Romans day is 12 midnight to 12 midnight we are still on today, and the Jewish sunset to sunset day. Map your crucifiction week and you will see the Jews 12 hour offset from Yahuahs. Their preparation day and Yahusha's were off by 12 hours, the Shabbats were too. Their 12 hour offset was how they lawfully got His body and readied it for the tomb just before dawn day Shabbat. And how He rose on His 7th Day Shabbat just before 1st day (Sunday) at Dawn. He was within the law of Torah the entire way through. He is perfect, spotless, without wrinkle, and on time. He is the Messiah. In the crazy beliefs of these others calendars, they belittle so much of everything He miraculously did. Very rarely do or did the Jews festival dates line up with Yahuah's dates, and even when they did, as in the crucifiction week, there is always the 12 hour off set. No, He did not go to the temple on "their" Sukkot. Not out of fear He chose the day, to the millisecond, He would die, but it was imperative He remained sinless. He couldn't go. He had to stay blameless, to fulfill the Law, His Torah, His Lady Wisdom, and our marriage covenant.

[@Yvonne-]

​​@@hiswordheals7677I appreciate your effort, and I agree, He was not saying His time was not yet come in reference to their Sukkot, He did not go to their festivals because their festival times were always ready, G2092 hetoimos- ADJUSTED. There is no opinion in my earlier statement, rather a failure to understand on your part. It's difficult to see until you do, then you can't unsee it. HalaluYahuah?! You put in as much effort proving His selected time of death was not yet, which I had already agreed with, as I did explaining, the 3 timelines in scripture and the 12 hour offset with the Jews. Let's not get off track. Do your timeline so you can believe it when you do see it. It's fascinating. It will melt any heart. I love, love, love John 7. Yahusha is not just a perfect Master, but His death on that stake was a Masterpiece only He could have accomplished. Unless you study it the way we do in Covenant Calendar you will never know all that He truly did, honestly. But if you just do up a timeline from when Joseph took Yahushas body, to Mary Magdalen finding Him gone, you would see it. There are graphs, pictures, timelines, and many videos you could see and watch to help you follow His timeline. But He showed on that stake how NOT to follow Torah every bit as much as showing us exactly HOW TO follow it. I absolutely invite you to come on over and see for yourself, anytime.

[@hiswordheals7677]

@@Yvonne- ​ @Yvonne- @Yvonne- this seems to be reading alot into this scripture that may or may not be there so can it really be used as proof?. Here's what it says: Joh 7:6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready. Joh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Joh 7:8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come. Here he repeats 2x that His time is not yet come. Keep reading and you will see in this passage again in verse 30 he uses this phrase a third time but instead saying His hour (rather than time) has not yet come speaking of the time that they would be allowed to kill him. Was he referring to the feast day that He celebrates was not there yet or the time He should be killed is not there yet? He was speaking to his brothers... and they would have all gone to Jerusalem the same time growing up with their parents wouldn't they. Does He now go at a different time than His family? Additionally the Jews were seeking Him at the feast and were expecting to see Him there. If He was part of the Qumran or Essene alternative calendar movement wouldn't they have known that? If so then they would not have been expecting to see Him there yet. Just a little iffy to create a doctrine from though I will admit that it seems as though His brothers should have expected Him to go to the feast so then why would they feel the need to tell Him to go up? And what would they think He meant by my time is not yet come? Perhaps it was early and He wasn't planning to leave as early as them? Hard to say, just too many unknowns to be sure IMO. Shalom.

[@Yvonne-]

@@hiswordheals7677 I appreciate your effort, and I agree, He was not saying His time was not yet come in reference to their Sukkot, He did not go to their festivals because their festival times were always ready, G2092 hetoimos- ADJUSTED. It's difficult to see until you do, then you can't unsee it. HalaluYahuah?! You put in as much effort speaking on how His selected time of death was not yet, (which I had already agreed with), as I did explaining, the 3 timelines in scripture and the 12 hour offset with the Jews, which you would have ti see to understand. Let's not get off track. Do your timeline so you can believe it when you do see it. It's fascinating. It will melt any heart. I love, love, love John 7. Yahusha is not just a perfect Master, but His death on that stake was a Masterpiece only He could have accomplished. Unless you study it the way we do in Covenant Calendar you will never know all that He truly did, honestly. But if you just do up a timeline from when Joseph took Yahushas body, to Mary Magdalen finding Him gone, you would see it. There are graphs, pictures, timelines, and many videos you could see and watch to help you follow His timeline. But He showed on that stake how NOT to follow Torah every bit as much as showing us exactly HOW TO follow it. I absolutely invite you to come on over and see for yourself.

[@puma4675]

All of the calendar talk turns my brain to mush. I seem completely unable to grasp any of it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@torahminder]

What of the word Chodesh being falsely translated as "new moon"? How is it that this word Chodeh by Hebrew definition has no connection to a moon of any kind, can be MIStranslated as "new moon" ? Have you looked at Isaiah 60:20 where Isaiah is discussing the earth made new and he states the moon will not withdraw itself? That means there cannot be a new moon by default it never will go into conjunction! Then go read Isaiah's writing about the same arth made new on ch 66:20 where the MIStranslated word chodeh is rendred as "new moon" and there is can be said that Isaiah changed his mind and is now declaring that indeed the moon will need to remove itself (conjunction) so it can come as a "new moon"! Which verse do you believe? They both cannot be correct! Either Isaiah is a fool or Chodesh (month) has been MISTRANSLATED as "new moon"!

[@hiswordheals7677]

Chodesh does NOT need to be translated as moon to prove the moon's use for calculating the months and therefore the feasts... one place this is very clear is Psalms 104:19 which says the Yerach MOON is for the Moedim FEASTS or appointed times. Some try to say this is just for agriculture... very weak argument. Example of trying to make scripture mean something obscure in order for it not to contradict your narrative when the plain meaning of the scripture so clearly does contradict your narrative.

[@ginasparks7669]

Has it started?

[@ConciseCabbage]

Questions for Zadok calendar keepers: 1. Why is a month 30 days long? 2. Why is a week 7 days long? Do you believe that it is a coincidence that a lunar cycle is ~30 days and that there's ~7 days between each quarter of the lunar cycle? Meaning, you would say that 30 day months are arbitrary, as are 7 day weeks?

[@torahminder]

Emphatically not a zadok believer! Yet Noah's flood account (Torah) provides absolute precise documentation of 30 day months as does all prophecy and throughout the Scripture.

[@BillH-l3c]

thankfully No one will enter the Kingdom because they had the precise doctrine. BE cool if all of us had the same zeal for reaching the lost as we have for Doctrine.

[@ConciseCabbage]

@@torahminder it’s a bit off topic, but can you explain how the Noah story is evidence of that?

[@hankhering3855]

When the Supreme Court of the US determined the Roe vs. Wade decision, it was the “law of the land”, until the legislative branch creates a constitutional Amendment to negate the decree, or until a constitutional amendment nullifies the Supreme Court, approved by two thirds of both houses and two thirds of the State legislatures, or until the Supreme Court reversed THEMSELVES, which they did in 2022. The ZP have determined the calendar for the disciples of the most High, and they have neither been removed by Yehovah, nor have reversed their halacha, according to their writings found at Bethabara. Neither has the “Melchizedekian” High Priest, Yeshua, negated their position.

[@hiswordheals7677]

What are these self proclaimed "Sons of Zadok" names and lineages from which they derive their authority? What was the name and lineage of the "teacher of righteousness"? All scriptural claims of authority come with actual names and usually lineages as well... i.e. Joshua son of Nun, etc

[@hankhering3855]

@@hiswordheals7677 Your premise is flawed. They are not "self proclaimed". The lineage is based in Scripture, and the lineage of Zadok was given an "eternal priesthood" via Pinchas (Num. 25), and will be the priesthood during the Millennial reign of Yeshua (Eze. 40-48). The Zadok line was "ejected" from the priesthood, because they refused to accept an unbiblical calendar, demanded by the Greek King, Antiochus. They were responsible for not only the calendar, but the sacred writings, which they took to Bethabara (Qumran), and put in clay jars hidden in the caves for the latter generations at the end of time. Eze. 44 says the Zadok priests are the final arbiters of "controversies". Their calendar was used by Yeshua and the Apostles, and their "canon" was quoted by Yeshua and the Apostles (Enoch, Jubilees, etc.) Since their halacha (legal rulings)are the Supreme Court of Yehuwa, their rulings stand, unless Yehuwa removed them from authority (which He did not), or the Priest after the Order of Melchizedek, corrects their rulings (which He did not). Much of what you speak of is well documented in the Dead Sea Scrolls, with accurate history and information, if one wants to seek such.

[@hiswordheals7677]

@hankhering3855 self proclaimed means that they themselves in their writings claim to be "sons of Zadok" but do not provide their names or father's name etc so even if they are indeed from the line of Zadok we don't really know who they are. There were indeed apostate 'sons of Zadok' recorded in scripture and also in historic accounts by Josephus. Were the Qumran "sons of Zadok" from the lineage of the righteous sons or apostate sons of Zadok? We don't know because they don't tell us their names or the names of their fathers. Neh 13:28 And one of the sons of Joiada, the son of Eliashib the high priest, was son in law to Sanballat the Horonite: therefore I chased him from me. Neh 13:29 Remember them, O my God, because they have defiled the priesthood, and the covenant of the priesthood, and of the Levites. Neh 13:30 Thus cleansed I them from all strangers, and appointed the wards of the priests and the Levites, every one in his business; If you study scripture you will see Eliashib was indeed a true Zadokite high priest in the second temple after the Babylonian exhile. He had two grandsons the first becoming Eliashib's successor high priest in the Jerusalem temple and the second grandson of course also a "son of Zadok" married Sanballet's daughter and is this 'son in law' of Sanballat the Horonite (who was a foreigner appointed by the Assyrian king as governor over the defeated and dispersed Northern Kingdom). Sanballat's son in law "son of Zadok" brother of the Jerusalem high priest would not divorce his pagan wife and so was chased out of the temple by Nehemiah. A lot of other apostate priests who would also not divorce their pagan wives also left with him. Sanballat then made this apostate "son of Zadok" high priest in the the apostate temple he built on Mt Gerizim and the other priests who left with him also served there. Were the Qumran "sons of Zadok" possibly descended from these apostate priests or other apostate priests? We have no way of knowing because they do not give us their names or the names of their fathers.

[@donaldchrismon9491]

When did the Enoch calendar start being known as the Zadok calendar,

[@lunaticfringe5346]

When Some people don’t like what the rest of the book says? It gives solid details that are bothersome for both Zadok and Hillel and all other counts.

[@Vlabar]

I would find it funny if every calendar was wrong.

[@vickib.6704]

The ones presented are wrong.

[@CharleneFortsch-gt4nv]

Yes, all of the calendars represented were counterfeits. I'm sure this is going to create more confusion than ever, and maybe that is a good idea. Yahusha walked out his covenant calendar timing - you have to follow His actions and not expect to see red words in the gospels. He already SPOKE all the words needed and that included the correct appointed times. The Original Melchizedek Covenant Calendar is found between Gen 1:1 to Exo 24:11. None of these representatives know that - at least not yet.

[@deniseneumann6140]

​@@CharleneFortsch-gt4nvHello Charlene, this is Denise in TN. I am reading the comments first before I watch the video. I can't wait to watch the video. I heard they didn't have the Covenant Calendar folks in this discussion. I believe more and more people are starting to hear about CC. ❤️ 💯

[@tsehelbenyosef2503]

@@deniseneumann6140, first of all, this was not a debate, it was a cordial roundtable discussion with love between brethren. My question to you is, who is qualified to represent, in a loving roundtable discussion, the Covenant Calendar you refer to?

[@dealikeinidea2342]

Is there a video teaching on the calendar you mentioned?​@@CharleneFortsch-gt4nv

[@hiswordheals7677]

After reading many of the comments below it seems apparent that the calendar itself is not necessarily the problem... it seems that it is the doctrines and confusion of authority that leads to the calendar confusion. YHWH and hence Y'shua are NOT the authors of confusion. If the calendar at use in the temple was wrong why didn't Y'shua or even one of the apostles just say so? Why just hint and beat around the bush leading to all of this confusion? Y'shua was pretty direct on other matters that they had wrong, why would He not directly challenge their authority when it came to the calendar? THAT SAID...Let each of us truly be convinced by His Spirit alone as we prayerfully and earnestly study SCRIPTURE as to what calendar He is using and wants us to observe while not judging or condemning others on their walk or days or years observed. Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Messiah is what matters and love covers a multitude of sins. We should just make sure we are all seeking to walk the path that HE has set before us :) and stick to it. Shalom!

[@bal1isticw0lf15]

Wasn’t the priesthood stolen ?

[@robertrambo9190]

Yes

[@Reeder.Rabbit]

It seems to me that the 3 main ones are essentially the same..?..ish..? Unless I'm misunderstanding something. Besides the first day of a month being a couple days later or earlier depending on whether you sight it or go by conjunction. In all 3 the year *should* start at basically the same time, give or take a few days. And the Aviv Barley basically applies no matter what calender you use because the barley is *going* to be in Aviv at some point during the first month. God never said that it ALL has to be in the state of aviv before you can have the year start. I think it was more of a way of saying that this is the SEASON in which the year will start. Spring. Another definition of Aviv is Spring. So I think God is just saying that the new year starts in the Spring. So then it really just comes down to how do we know when a month starts?

[@clement1148]

Shalom :) Is it a live or a replay of a recording you did ? Thank you May Yah Bless you HalleluYah ❤️

[@MrH4YAH]

When scripture says New Moon, what is the meaning( full, no, or sliver) does the bible say to use moon for month? -- answer: NO read early text.

[@FollowYeshua7]

❤

[@MercedesRatthe]

will we be able to watch this recording again after that specific time? thanks so much May Yah bless you

[@jeanogbo]

They said it'll be live forever to view here on KZbin!

[@FollowYeshua7]

I don’t see the theory of this Zadok calendar in the Bible/Foundation… Genesis

[@torahminder]

Zadok has zero foundation in Scripture. Covenant Calendar Classroom has many detailed studies exposing this deception. B e Blessed. They are on u tube as well.

[@howardjohnston7376]

Moutria! Does Aries play into the beginning of the year perhaps Josephus?

[@Hebrewess8]

The pre-calculated calendars must ignore this verse: Mark 13:32 But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven nor the Son, except the Father. Only the new moon camp can stand on this verse.

[@BillH-l3c]

working 6-8 days then rest on the 7th isn't taught in Scripture

[@whatdidjesusdoify]

Does Judaism have this issue of different calendars?

[@Yvonne-]

No moons used in finding the new year, scriptually or ever. Shabbat is BOQER dawn to BOQER dawn 7th Day. This is proven in scripture in several places. Mathew 28:1 John 20:1 and Mark 15:42.

[@sharenwin3820]

These Scriptures are referring to First-fruits. The first day of counting the Omer to 50 days to Shavuot.

[@AdrianDurning]

This was prerecorded

[@sharenwin3820]

Mo’ed H4150 (Strong) מוֹעָדָה מֹעֵד מוֹעֵד mô‛êd mô‛êd mô‛âdâh mo-ade', mo-ade', mo-aw-daw' From H3259; properly an appointment, that is, a fixed time or season; specifically a festival; conventionally a year; by implication, an assembly (as convened for a definite purpose); technically the congregation; by extension, the place of meeting; also a signal (as appointed beforehand): - appointed (sign, time), (place of, solemn) assembly, congregation, (set, solemn) feast, (appointed, due) season, solemn (-ity), synagogue, (set) time (appointed).

[@richardright752]

go go dead sea scrools

[@FollowYeshua7]

Like a baby in the womb

[@hankhering3855]

Yehovah’s eternal calendar was established even before the creation of man, so holy events are defined by His ordained calendar. The Yehovah Ordained priesthood of Zadok, “...are to be judges in controversies, and they are to render decisions in keeping with my rulings (Eze. 44:24, see also Deut. 17:8-13). They established the calendar given by Yehovah to Enoch, as the calendar for His Moedim. The House of Zadok, has not been deposed by Yehovah from their ordained position in judging controversies, and the House of Zadok has not reversed their position on the calendar. Therefore, the 364 day “Enoch/Zadok” calendar is the law of moedim for disciples of the Most High God. In addition, according to the book of Jubilees, Levi, the son of Ya’akov, was responsible for the canon:”He (Ya’akov) gave all his books and the books of his fathers to his son Levi so that he could preserve them and renew them for his sons until today.” (Jubilees 45:16). Therefore, the documents protected, preserved, replicated and disseminated by the family of Levi through the Zadok Priests (ZP), have the “sacred writings”, the only ordained canon preserved at Bethabara.

[@MrH4YAH]

Corrupted writings, talmud