The CANCELLED Incredibles script we will NEVER see

Incredibles originally was going to be a very different movie. The villain was changed, the story redone and deleted scenes left on the cutting room floor. I dive into the cancelled Incredibles pitch that we will never see on screen.
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[@BryanSeeker]

Do you think the family should be aged up for Incredibles 3?

[@MrsJones-hz9wu]

Yes I believe they should be aged up, it would be nice if they added the original script to series 3. Somehow ???

[@letsgoooo9200]

Yes

[@harryskywalker6814]

Yes! I would love to see Dash age up to Violets age in Incredibles 1. (Btw your story was amazing)

[@lucashelfman7022]

I’d say age up the world with them. The first two movies have a James Bond, early 60s espionage vibe. It makes sense that an older violet, dash, and jack jack would need to be confronted with a more complicated world than their parents did (think the 40s aesthetic of the good old days). Seeing either a 70s or 80s feel would definitely differentiate a third movie from the other parts of the trilogy.

[@user-ds4sr1js9e]

​@@MrsJones-hz9wu Agreed.

[@PredictedCyborg]

Another part of the original opening scene is that Syndrome mentions that Supers are apparently not even ALLOWED to have children. That would have been a heck of a dark plot.

[@blockocraft1920]

Then Bob becomes a cyborg with asthma problems after losing a fight with Frozone and getting resurrected by Syndrome, Dash gets a laser sword from FroZone and learns he has telekinesis, and Violet becomes a princess in a distant planet.

[@3kojimbles895]

@@blockocraft1920 that sounds like a reference to something, bit I don't know what

[@AuthorUndertheVoid]

@@3kojimbles895 Star Wars

[@3kojimbles895]

@@AuthorUndertheVoid star wars sounds surprisingly anime without context

[@AuthorUndertheVoid]

@@3kojimbles895 lol yeah

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

The part where Bob accidently "cut" his fingers with the butcher knife which leave a dent on the blade and pretend that he's screaming in pain that made everyone panic is bloody hilarious though.

[@user-ds4sr1js9e]

Hilarious but at the same time, it is also painful. Like imagine getting ur fingers chopped... 😬

[@danielcooper3332]

@@user-ds4sr1js9e But he doesn't get his fingers chopped. He dents the knife and pretends he chopped his fingers, that's the joke.

[@user-ds4sr1js9e]

@@danielcooper3332 I know that, but I'm just saying imagine if this happens.

[@danielcooper3332]

@@user-ds4sr1js9e Just the way you worded it made it seem like you thought it would be painful for Mr. Incrdible. Sorry for the confusion.

[@user-ds4sr1js9e]

@@danielcooper3332 no worries

[@user-wv5gv3dw5u]

The scene where he has to pretend he cut his fingers off is fucking gold man

[@TheGaberGuy]

Wait, do you mean "gold," instead of "old"? Edit: S edited the comment, so my reply now makes no sense!😂🤦

[@YuQissu]

@@TheGaberGuy think they mean gold as in good humor

[@TheGaberGuy]

@@YuQissu It was a typo.

[@yderga8707]

If they make a 3rd film they have to recreate it. Its so good. Although they probably cut it so as to not scare children

[@owendigo8236]

@@TheGaberGuy no its not

[@M4ST3RxC4BOOSE]

“He may have been your father, Vi, but he wasn’t your daddy.”

[@Nameless82284]

"I may not be your father, Vi, but I'm your daddy."

[@rookie-boogie7834]

@@Nameless82284 “I may not be your father,Vi,but I’m not your daddy.’’

[@tiggle5485]

GotG reference

[@isabellamorris7902]

NO NOW I'M CRYING MORE

[@gummygoo2]

oh yondu

[@Sam_Jalmanak]

Zereck being Violet's true father was actually one hell of a good plot twist

[@nicksuazo4377]

It could be a GREAT plot twist, like Star Wars 😆

[@lewisaino]

But poor Bob

[@Selkies_not_Sirens]

I can’t see Helen ever cheating like that!

[@nicksuazo4377]

@@Selkies_not_Sirens technically she wouldn't have cheated if she met Bob afterwards.

[@unsweetsweets]

It’s such a simple twist, but I actually got chills when he said it 👏👏

[@PenguinjitsuX]

I think their decision to switch to Syndrome as the main villain was perfect. While Zarrick looks like a cool character, he's way too similar to cliché and traditional villains that are smart and calculating. It would be too similar to every other superhero movie. Syndrome was one of the key features that made the Incredibles so unique and refreshing because he was just this kid who wanted to be glorified as a hero, albeit through the wrong methods. He's also another smart villain with the tech and the planning, but his personality and motivations are really interesting and fun to explore.

[@worldweaver2691]

yes. this.

[@worldweaver2691]

@InfernoDelta yepporoni

[@sarmeister1699]

@InfernoDelta TBF, cliche's aren't bad as long as the story and the characters are interesting.

[@BambinaSaldana]

Also, I feel like the opening scene to the released one is better than the one here. I prefer the released one because it doesn't show too much. It only shows what happened after their causes. It only shows Dash going to the office, and Bob getting berated. It tells us just enough for us to know what happened before, and what their life has been like the past 15 years or so.

[@peterqiu9543]

@InfernoDelta yes however, we get teased that zarrick is after Helen so the viewers minds would already be preoccupied with this notion

[@AgarthianTrapstar]

I'm glad the "you married elastigirl?" Line still made it in.

[@commandercaptain4664]

"And got BUSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"

[@Lost_Scarf]

@@commandercaptain4664 my favorite part 😂

[@dor748]

@@commandercaptain4664 😳😏😳😏😳😳😳

[@izzye-scopeexplosivobrainz414]

@@commandercaptain4664 oh no

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[@Benjamillion]

We can at least admit that Syndrome was already a perfect villain.

[@ZeldaSam1]

Though may he STAY dead!!!!!

[@genevieve7676]

And Evelyn from the sequel is just Syndrome without personality and charisma; just a cheap rip-off of what made Syndrome so great.

[@eluneee00]

@@genevieve7676 the twist villain plot is also getting old. I rolled my eyes when that scene happened. Still a great movie tho just a bad villain lol.

[@JV_inthemix]

I don’t always like villains starting off as fans of the heroes, because them just wanting powers just seem pretty bland. But it kinda works here.

[@keshiaanders6452]

And since he was a superhero fanboy that knows all of their strengths & weaknesses, that makes him highly intelligent & dangerous.

[@nicobones9608]

This would have been an amazing movie, but it would be a little too gutsy for a family movie. It's got themes of domestic abuse and children born out of wedlock, and that would be far too risky for Disney to put in a family film. Even so, it would be an AMAZING film!

[@staticboyj.r.]

I agree

[@chuckingreaper8654]

Disney has used harsher material before.

[@JordanWheeler1999]

@@chuckingreaper8654 indeed which the script idea would of been better

[@personman8734]

I think a darker incredibles similar to this would be much better. In both the movies the kids feel like afterthoughts and most of their plot can be broken down to wanting to be heroes and their parents not wanting them to be. Even when violet has a romantic relationship it feels like an afterthought. This not only gives them something relevant to do but allows the plot to properly explore their relationship.

[@AgentWolnyTyl3k]

Honestly Disney already had obsessive, unhealthy relationship in Hunchback of Notre Dame, so as long as it would have been more subtle it could had a pass.

[@thefilmwatcher1216]

The Incredibles is a masterpiece. I think a third movie in which the family is aged up would be phenomenal. It would allow for a slightly different dynamic between the family members. Also, when you said the reveal about Zarrick, my jaw dropped.

[@BOMACs_mind]

I agree

[@ethinwhite3454]

I would like a whole series with each movie focusing on a member of a family.

[@user-ds4sr1js9e]

@@BOMACs_mind Same

[@thefilmwatcher1216]

@@ethinwhite3454 That would be really cool.

[@nicksuazo4377]

Unless we get a third movie, and the plot is similar to this with Zarrick being Violet's father, it would be no less than mind blowing! And it would make some sense since she has dark hair rather than blond hair like the rest of the family. If not a movie than a series. Please, Disney!

[@jaenderman7207]

I would prefer this to be the sequel of the Incredibles than the one we got.

[@NONE.Dragon]

Eh, the sequel wasn't that bad. It explored how Supers came back to the spotlight after years of hiding. If they ever make an Incredibles 3, i wouldn't mind this.

[@1sdani]

@@NONE.Dragon The sequel unironically did everything the original satirized. Short of having a cape the villain of I2 did everything Syndrome, Edna, and Bob openly mocked in the original.

[@NoNo47668]

@@NONE.Dragon it did not live up to the expectations. Everyone wanted it to be as good as the original, but it’s just another mediocre mess, like the sequel to Wreck It Ralph.

[@BillLaBrie]

The voices were creaky. The wokeness was sneaky.

[@brianmurphy250]

I’ve avoided watching it because the trailer looked so bad and woke

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I don’t care if the family ages, I just want the third one give Violet and Dash the spotlight

[@sarafontanini7051]

yeah I reallyl feel like the second movie should've focused more on making the FAMILY a team more than having elastigirl take up the superhero spotlight for msot of the movie probably throw in some stuff about like what happened to all the villains during the time heroes were outlawed. Like, I wanna know what happened to THOSE guys, how were THEY dealt with?

[@OmarPerez-cq7zf]

@@sarafontanini7051 oh yes!Good point!I never thought of that! About what happened to all the villains when Supers became illegal

[@sarafontanini7051]

@@OmarPerez-cq7zf I mean you can't outlaw Sueprvillains. They're ALREAYD criminals! What, you gonna DOUBLE arrest them when they commit a crime?

[@OmarPerez-cq7zf]

@@sarafontanini7051 yeah but like You actually said a smart question-*WHAT THE FUCKING HELL HAPPENED TO ALL THE SUPERVILLAINS WHEN SUPERS WHERE OUTLAWED????* I mean I've seen the Incredibles a million times and I've never thought of that!😮😂The government are hypocrites and idiots!It all remaindes Me of Captain America Civil War you want to stop heroes but what about the *real* bad guys????

[@iwantslimjims]

Yeah, I don’t think they have age up Bob and Helen to give Vi and Dash the spotlight

[@108asf]

If they do a 3rd Incredibles movie, and is focused on the children, they still can use a variation of this cold oppening. Obviously whitout Syndrome.

[@chocolateice24]

Right!!!

[@jeffman913]

Heck, they could even just make this (with some slight alterations for continuity) the plot of Incredibles 3

[@allo.adrianrene]

Maybe in this opening it could be a new Syndrome? Perhaps a nephew/niece that took up the mantle, or some demented fanboy of his.

[@whovianmaverick6348]

They should have the third movie be about Violet and have all the kids be Adult supers. That way they can still use the Zerrick storyline

[@jadenyuki3138]

Si wei

[@lyandraangel]

Nice tie in for why Violet looks so different from Bob and her siblings. She still has some facial features that could be from Helen, after all.

[@nicksuazo4377]

My thoughts exactly. Most would assume it was just her powers, I thought so too, but I felt like it was something more

[@GuineaPig361]

@@nicksuazo4377 Yeah. Something like exposure to a super chemical wouldn't explain why her facial structure and ears don't match anyone in the family. Either she's adopted or Bob's not the birth father.

[@gekozilla7339]

I always just thought she had recessive genes

[@lyandraangel]

@@gekozilla7339 Hair genetics are complicated, but generally darker hair is more dominant than lighter shades. Bob and Helen both have too light of hair to have any kind of good likelihood of having a black haired child together, and Dash and Jack-Jack reflect that. Dash also looks a lot like a “Bob Jr.” and the baby is young enough to mostly have generic baby face, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he also ends up looking like his dad.

[@DoctorPhileasFragg]

@@lyandraangel Dash doesn't have his dad's nose.

[@Deathsweetsong]

“Elastic girl?! you married elastic girl! And had a kid?!” I love the fact they kept that line in the final product of the film any only changed “had a kid” to “and gotten busy!”

[@AdventurerOfOblivion]

The screenslaver was a lazy and mostly uninteresting villain. Anything would have been better

[@joshuafischer684]

They should have done a Toy Story 3 esque time skip to Bob and Helen being older and almost empty nesters with Jack Jack moving out, Violet and Dash mature adults with their own issues. Maybe set up the main conflict as a super family operating as a crime syndicate or terror network, and their activities interfere with Violet and Dash separately, and the resulting investigation leads them to discover the greater scheme. It could bring two contrasting parenting styles into conflict, where the Parrs raised their kids to be independent adults and the villains raised their kids either abusively or are overly attached and unwilling to let them leave.

[@pennyforyourthots]

The plot twist wasn't even surprising. The main villains name is literally a pun on "evil endeavor".

[@gaminggoof1542]

Glad someone else didn’t like the movie. Plus it ruined Bob’s character development

[@ShinCadian27th]

It's basically telling that phones and PCs are Enslaving us And that literally has nothing to do with the Timeline of Incredibles which based on the 60s-90s

[@dusty0896]

@@ShinCadian27th ok how is the movie telling that pc or phone are enslaving us

[@godofevil9468]

Xerek ought to be the villain in Incredibles 3. I mean look at that design. It almost reminds me of a more Charming Dr Calico.

[@nicksuazo4377]

His design would of actually fit in with Incredibles 2 if I'm being honest. But I'd still like to see this on the big screen. It just screams potential. And it would be a nice excuse for a sequel. Maybe even a timeskip

[@godofevil9468]

@@nicksuazo4377 Hell yeah

[@nobod2567]

Zarrick could have been the main villian of the Incredibles 2 and been better than Screenslaver.

[@emeraldphoenix5868]

Yep,Zarrick has a Very Slick and Charming Design.

[@godofevil9468]

@@LordProteus Oh i love how he has the Magneto Colours. Makes him look very menacing and evil.

[@dieselexkore2063]

That White haired woman who was talking about not wanting to raise kids looks like that one character from Phineas and Ferb who fights Isabellas Chihuahua.

[@Selkies_not_Sirens]

lol i can’t iunsee it

[@payme4243]

I concur

[@curious5887]

Who is that character

[@HogartHughes]

Professor Poofenplotz

[@sonomni]

I knew I wasn't the only one.

[@seanstark4312]

If Zereck was in the original Incredibles movie, i think Malcolm McDowell would've been an awesome choice to play him

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Ah yes! It's Alex

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

True!!!

[@BlakeJ-bl1gj]

Maybe Bruce Willis Would Play Xerek

[@lel0uchvibritannia981]

This plot of Violet’s parentage can still work in a future sequel, like when Violet is all grown up and Helen is debating whether it’s time she finally learns the truth

[@petrabanjarnahor229]

Zarik :There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you .. Zarik : Violet, you do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy. Violet : I'll never join you! Darth Zarik : If you only knew the power of the Mystics. Bob never told you what happened to your father. Violet : enough! He told me you killed him. You destroyed the Mystics! Darth Zarik : No. *I* am your father. Luke : NOO. That's not true. That's impossible! Darth Zarik : Search your feelings, you *know* it to be true! Violet : [anguished] No! No! N.B. Zarik plot is nothing new, mind you

[@MARCELDUCHAMP0_o]

@@petrabanjarnahor229 I literally just watched this movie fifteen minutes ago lol

[@soulslvr9562]

I think it would be better if you made Zerik a more sympathetic character. Something like the scene with Syndrome infront of the family except its a "Do you have any idea how much it hurts??! Being forced away from my daughter for so long!?" Kinda deal. That way his time bonding with Violet seems more genuine and that the villain can be more lasting and more ambiguous. Sure he wasnt a good boyfriend but fuck was he willing to be a good father.

[@alphahunterd]

Oooh I like that

[@thesteelwarrior]

I like this idea :O

[@njmoonfrost6145]

I am 100% totally not going to make this into a fanfic and draw it….. I lied I am 100% am

[@thesteelwarrior]

@@njmoonfrost6145 You can do it! 😂👍

[@chocotoasties2671]

Nah, I don't think it's cool to rewire an abuser to a "sympathetic good dad" cause there'd still be a toxic power dynamic. Imagine caring for your child but treating their mom like garbage

[@swimmerdudepinkard5044]

I think this would work when Violet goes off to college and feels isolated to the point she is unsure of her current family then Zarrick shows up to offer her a job that centers around capturing Bob, Helen, and Dash. Jack-Jack comes saves the day and makes Violet feel more connected to her family again promising her to call after they finish class or visit her over a weekend.

[@andrewnobody6737]

Violet being an illegitimate child makes way more sense than it should

[@Jangobadass]

It NEVER ceases to amaze how *FASCINATING* the "making of" story of animated movie can be, as well as they "what could've been"...

[@AfroTokyo.]

Which is why I Love the artbooks that go into detail on the development of the movies, plus concept art of things that could've been

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Very true! 😃

[@MayflowerChan]

The Incredibles is my favorite Pixar movie, but frankly, I don't want to see Incredibles 3. I want a FROZONE movie that hones in on his backstory. This could serve as a prequel movie that lets us see the supers at their peak. That way, we can truly understand how much the supers lost by being forced into hiding and also learn more about a fan favorite character. :)

[@osmanyousif7849]

Why not a spin-off for all the heroes then? Gazerbeam, Dynaguy, Meta-Man, Thunderhead, Stratogale, and Splashdown, and maybe add Frozone.

[@MayflowerChan]

@@osmanyousif7849 Frozone is already established as a fan favorite and I think having his name on the movie would bring in the audience. Incredibles fans know the names of some the other heroes, but Frozone is the only one who is actively part of the story that we don't get much information on besides being Bob's friend.

[@syrusangi8743]

@@MayflowerChan And if they do, we better get more of Honey n not just her voice XD

[@MayflowerChan]

@@syrusangi8743 Exactly!!!! I've been waiting to see her! Even off screen, she had one of the most memorable lines!

[@bepisthescienceman4202]

Frozone adventure to find his supersuit

[@20000dino]

I honestly much prefer the script they went with: it feels much more condensed and has that signature mature style of writing that no other Pixar film has. I must say, however: Violet's arc on the old script is interesting. I also always found it weird how she looked genetically very different from her family, so taking that and her shown insecurities to build a character arc is pretty smart. It's really sad she wasn't as utilized on the actual film, as I've always loved her character.

[@axy4770]

"He may be your father, but he ain't your daddy"

[@tessaminick8745]

The "you married elastigirl" part ended differently so I can only wonder if "and got BIZAYYY" was adlibbed

[@user-ds4sr1js9e]

First of all, I really like the Incredibles movie, but the original script about Xerek and Violet was actually interesting. Plus, if I'm being honest, I feel like Violet would've been the main ones of the Incredibles, because then the series would make sense. And if they added Xerek, then the series would also be interesting. Imo

[@zeenasty]

To be clear, this wasn't an actual original script, just this guy's imagining of what sort of story they could have told with this original antagonist. It would be very interesting, but ultimately I'm sure the original script looked quite different!

[@ajxx9987]

@@zeenasty is it possible to read it?

[@zeenasty]

@@ajxx9987 probably not. I doubt the first draft even still exists, and if it does we will never see it, more likely than not.

[@giovanna1995]

There was a bonus disc that came with the original Incredibles movie showcasing audio files of all the different superhero’s from the glory days. I want a movie about them honestly, they all seemed so interesting and witty, and they all had quirky relationships with one another that made the world of the Incredibles feel so real

[@alexrobi1176]

I want an older Violet and Dash, while Jack Jack is a bit older too and has settled into his powers more.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

It could be power he might be stuck with a singular power.

[@iwantslimjims]

As gets older, he only gets 1 power

[@wilbourke4188]

The whole plot twist of Violet would make for a great movie, even if it wasn’t an Incredibles 3!

[@Rell80]

I would love to see something like that in a 3rd movie. I doubt Disney would go with the implied domestic violence angle and they would probably reveal Violet is Bob's daughter in the end, but this would still be a very interesting story.

[@GuineaPig361]

The Incredibles films do go down in age order, so Violet would be the protagonist of a third installment as the third-oldest Parr.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

They shouldn’t reveal violet to be his or the other guys daughter but rather let it be a mystery and push a strong family message about how family can be anyone and what have you.

[@AT-rp8zy]

​@@kordellswoffer1520 Nhh plot twist better. What would be the point of teasing that just to not do something with it.

[@danielraviv4115]

They would and more ETC !

[@precoius]

Your version had me in tears. I miss my parents. 😢

[@infamous1403]

It’ll be all right buddy 😊

[@fourstuds]

I audibly gasped with the Violet plot twist part! Would've been SO interesting, not so child friendly plot. But that would've been so interesting to watch! I love it.

[@joshtheredpen9823]

Personally, if Pixar ever returned to Incredibles, I want there to be a series on Disney plus where the episodes focus on the other supers in the Glory Days, like Gazerbeam, Fironic, Macroburst, Stratogale, Apogee, Dynaguy, Splashdown, Metro Man, Universal Man, Blazestone, and so much more! Who knows? I kinda have a theory Fironic is still alive. As far as we know, there's no evidence of death. But back to all the glory day supers. I think revisiting the glory days would also share the relationship between Elastigirl and Snogg. It was said Snogg would transport Elastigirl during missions. It would also be nice to give Bomb Voyage and Underminer screen time, because Mr. Incredible seems to have a long history with those two secondary villains. Still, Incredibles 3 may still have it's moments where we might not need the Glory Days series.

[@henrideveroux8690]

I'm not crying, you're crying!

[@user-ds4sr1js9e]

lol

[@kitkatt24]

I think Incredibles 3 is going to happen if we like it or not. I hope that they age everyone up.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Give it 14 years...

[@-.-.11]

Hopefully not though. I think they should just leave it at 2 movies and be done. Other than Toy Story 2 and 3, Pixar doesn’t do well with sequels.

[@SpiderVenom12905]

@@-.-.11 well 2 was already disappointing I’m fine to take the risk for another 3rd disappointing one atleast there’s guaranteed to be some good stuff in it

[@-.-.11]

@@SpiderVenom12905 I disagree about there being a guarantee of good stuff. 2 already was repeating the first film. A third would just be more of a repeat. Toy Story 3 and 4 (although I like the Toy Story sequels somewhat) were just repeating the same thing. The villain of 4 was just a combination of Lotso and Stinky Pete. Cars 3 was just a repeat of Cars 1 except Lightning is Doc now. Pixar is just not great when it comes to sequels. Finding Dory was the first film except Dory was the main character now. And this time she has a tragic backstory instead of Marlin. I’d rather they do something new and interesting instead of another nostalgia repeat trip.

[@futuregohan4837]

*In An Alternative World Of Incredibles 3* Jonathan: So Syndrome You Decided To Act Up Again I'm Going Solo This Time HAAAAAAAA!!!! *His Hair Turns Red* Syndrome: Wait What Is That Super Saiyan God Jonathan: This This Is Super Saiyan God Syndrome: Aaand This Is Exactly Why He Shouldn't Be Super Jack Jack: Bruh That Is Super But It Is Super Saiyan God

[@hadesdogs4366]

I find Helen’s speech about the sacrifice of mother hood and hat she’s willing to go through for me is far more powerful than the new movie where she’s more self centered and selfish

[@phantasydragon696]

That sounds like a better movie but the villian sounds like he should be in marvel or DC.

[@iwantslimjims]

Nah, no way

[@master-of-many-fandoms2020]

This could be a great storyline for a third movie. Who’s with me?? Raise your hand or speak your mind.

[@jacobrivera1721]

Hand 🤚

[@nicksuazo4377]

✋ Hell yeah!

[@MisterMuffinut]

🙌

[@emeraldphoenix5868]

✋Aye

[@FraserSouris]

The only issue is that by the end of Incredibles 2, the family is basically cool with each other. This version kinda depends on there being distance in the first place

[@ForTheOmnissiah]

Honestly, Syndrome is so much better for a villain, and I'm glad they listened to the feedback before moving forward. Syndrome is so, so good of a villain to have. 10/10 movie they ended up with.

[@Eric_1991]

I’m not going to lie, I think this is better than the actual version

[@depopjordans]

I feel like it's a sin to say this but I might agree with u

[@cyberdiver7076]

Me too but the reason is probably I watched the actual version a thousand times already and wanted something fresh.

[@depopjordans]

@@cyberdiver7076 same here

[@kordellswoffer1520]

I’d say no and I can see several w s to improve upon this concept.

[@utopian4769]

The first movie was good on its own merits, but I could see this as a potential sequel if Disney was ballsy enough, which they aren't, at least not anymore.

[@mr.overlord6720]

“You don’t even know where the hospital is, do you?” This implies they had probably had Violet in the tub

[@RoninCatholic]

They moved _really_ recently.

[@mr.overlord6720]

@@RoninCatholic Ohhhhhh

[@shivuxdux7478]

I mean, realistically, would Elastigirl need any help giving birth?

[@egorsdeimos3523]

@@shivuxdux7478 I would say no, but there is some science on how it might hurt.

[@jellymatsuryuka6853]

@@shivuxdux7478 You have to remember she can't use her powers because of people around

[@xeatdefeat179]

This would've been a masterpiece! I really loved how the "She's still my sister!" Was the thing that broke them being trapped, it gave me goosebumps considering I'm such a family person.

[@ScisaacFisaac]

Okay, I'm piggybacking off others' ideas. Incredibles 3. Timeskip. Perhaps the characters' maturity is echoed in a much more gruesome, adult story. An older Xeric begins sending threatening notes and photos to the Parr family, imtended for Violet specifically. But Helen and Bob find them before she can during a family reunion, and don't tell anyone else. They read "FALSE FATHER" or "LIVING A LIE" or "GIVE HER BACK", and the photos are a mix of both old and recent. Violet is now an adult, but still does hero work with her parents, and Dash and Jack-Jack are shadowing Frozone in another city. While they do, Vi, who is hoping Tony will ask to marry her, takes him on a date and finds one of the notes--clipped to it is a photo of a young Helen. She brings it to her parents, who show her the other notes, and she thinks someone is targeting the whole family until she sees a note they'd tried to hide: a photo of her with the word VIOLET written in red. She snaps at them for not trusting her, but tells them to get out before they can talk. The unresolved awkwardness comes through in both hero work and her relationship with Tony; the Incredibles can no longer work together and nearly destroy the city when a new villain attacks. She also explodes on Tony and he leaves her. Intercut with flashbacks of a young Helen and Xeric. They are a supervillain duo, and he repeatedly uses Helen as a tool. During a fight with several old heroes he nearly kills her with a death ray while aiming for them, and she turns on him. Eventually she would go on to become a hero, getting a mohawk and a bike before first relaxing the edgy persona and then settling down with Bob. At her lowest, Violet finds Xeric waiting for her, and they talk. He tells her part of the story with Helen, but then freezes her dead in her tracks as she's about to attack him: Helen never left him. Not until after she was born. She connects the dots and realizes what happens, and when a helicopter lowers a ladder into her driveway she comes willingly. Of course, Frozone, Dash and Jack-Jack have their own side-adventures getting modified costumes from E to fight a new villain, a massive dragon-like behemoth, whom Jack-Jack unleashes his full power on and easily defeats, but we cut away as he wakes up again. And smiles with fanged teeth. Tony comes back to Violet's apartment hoping to talk and finds her gone, going to the Parrs and telling them Violet is missing. They realize it's Xeric, and Helen knows where his base is. The secret one they'd had when they were dating. A sprawling oasis in the snowy mountains. Xeric brings Violet to his palace, where he laments about his time with Helen. The dragon-monster turns out to be his top enforcer, and this is where he presents his plan: he has learned he is dying of an incurable disease, and he wants to pass on his legacy, have someone to inherit the empire he will build in his final push for domination. He has already captured Frozone and her brothers, and after observing him in battle Xeric plans to harvest Jack-Jack's DNA to make an army. It's how he created his army of superpowered monsters, after all. Some powers, he even collected data on from Syndrome's OmniDroids and synthesized. Others still he bought from DevTech, which was bankrupted after the Screenslaver incident and quietly bought out. Bob and Helen try walking into the base using Helen's old password, which she assumes is unchanged because he kept expecting her to come back. Still, henchmen swarm them and they are brought to Xeric in full-body restraints. She talks to both parents, and that's when she realizes another truth: Bob, Helen and Frozone all knew about her, and agreed a long time ago to keep it a secret to keep her safe. Xeric's monsters are unleashed on the planet, and the world's Supers are rapidly overrun. "All of it," Xeric says, "is for you." She asks to release Dash and Jack-Jack, who are innocent. "But they know now. How could they look at you the same?" Violet is stunned into silence. But news footage captures a family shielding their newborn together when a mutant lands mere feet away, ready to devour them all. Shaken, she hits the release button on their restraints and the base's remaining mutants turn on them. Xeric grabs a Zero Point emitter and runs, and Jack-Jack battles the dragon yet again. One by one mutants tailored to each Super block the family's way, leaving only Violet and Helen. He freezes both and activates a new plan: total annihilation. "If my daughter doesn't want the world she won't have it!" The other Supers figure out ways to defeat their own mutants and run to join the battle with Xeric. All except Dash, who heads to the palace's control emitter, destroying it and cutting off the mutants' signals, leaving them disconnected and vulnerable. Cornered, with his emitter broken, Xeric grabs his death ray--the same one he nearly killed Helen with. He fires a shot, and Violet deflects it back at him, using her powers for the first time since coming to the base, and thus choosing her future. They return home, and she finds Tony waiting for her. He proposes, but not with a ring. Instead, he presents her with her own supersuit, which he made himself (with Edna's help, of course), and promises to patch it up every time she needs it. She says yes. Dash graduates high school, and Frozone promises to keep having his own adventures with he and Jack-Jack. With Violet on her own now and the other kids able to go solo, Bob and Helen retire for good, watching news footage of their children being heroes.

[@corpseprincess227]

That would’ve been an amazing third movie but I doubt it would make the cut

[@ScisaacFisaac]

@@corpseprincess227 I was just thinking of the what-if. Yeah, there's no way it'd be made, even with the stuff I toned down somewhat. And it probably wouldn't be as good as what a team of Pixar writers could do anyway. (Edit: creator/director Brad Bird writes the scripts himself. Just confirms that this what-if, written by, well, not Brad Bird, wouldn't be as good as whatever they come up with.)

[@iliagluhchev2821]

What a nice read that was, thank you.

[@db5094]

Nice

[@ileanabriannemari]

Ooooo. V nice

[@DanSurgeYT]

I hope we’ see Xerek if there’s ever a 3rd Incredible’s

[@om3gared66]

That was a great story. I was very shocked at the reveal and in a way it makes sense that zarrick would be Violet's biological father since nobody the family of the Incredibles have the same hair as violet. If they were to ever make an incredibles 3 I would love to see something like this

[@Ando1428]

Yeah but that's easily explained away. If she dies her hair. Then zarrik is just a coincidence. Hair isn't enough to justify it.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@Ando1428 and one of the grandparent could have this hair as well.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

The hair argument isn’t good as it’s easily debunked. The better option would be to make it more unknow who her father really is and drive home the underlying message of this film.

[@shadowwolf9467]

@@kordellswoffer1520 I have a theory, maybe Violets hair was genetically brown, but her power darkened it.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@shadowwolf9467 not bad.

[@thriina._.7000]

I really like his version in this story it really shows how some people can be just haunted by their pasts, and it also shows that not every family is perfect. It really has a great ending and I love what happens with Bob and Violet. Thought I think there could've been more done with Derek it was still a great idea.

[@NONE.Dragon]

Bob: Violet, you are the best thing that happened to me Dash and Jack-Jack: 👁️👄👁️

[@kikivlogstheofficial]

Your idea was honestly badass and yet very emotional it would of been a great story especially for Pixar because it’ll probably send a message to the audience that “you don’t need to be blood to be a family, all you need is love”.

[@zacobson2jacobperrin]

I need to rewatch The Incredibles asap

[@e.l.gstudios31]

I bet that his story would inspired by either a third movie were there older and that storyline happens or a similar way that Disney is doing to Monsters at work, either way this is interesting and would explain a few plot holes. p.s someone write it down for the live action one

[@darthsparkles551]

Violet is a character I wanted to see explored more, I would have loved this script.

[@datboi42]

"I’m here for my daughter" actually shocked me

[@yderga8707]

Although I like your story of the other version, I still prefer the original, the family dynamic displayed in the first film was so realistic, and the struggle of Bob and Helen's conflict of putting their past glory behind them and forcing their children to maintain normal lives is such an interesting and relatable concept. On top of that syndromes being an underappreciated side-kick gone villain was an absolute stroke of perfection. Even his philosophy of turning everyone super to undermine the heroes was top notch and petty enough to be believable, considering his character was so childish and bombastic.

[@brainstorm006]

8:47 Bruh, this would have been one of the greatest plot twists. And also, the story you build-up, it's just quite fascinating. For me, it won't be the Incredibles we know, but it would be the Incredibles we will remember for a long time. Dark, yet perfect in my view.

[@whoisjoe7064]

Maybe in another 14 years we’ll get another incredibles movie

[@KodyCrimson]

The way you made use of Violet's hair color to set up the plot twist was pretty smart. It's a good way to build up a twist, something that makes you think a little but not completely connect the dots.

[@the1b219]

I love the fancasts but PLEASE do more of these, I NEED IT it was amazing

[@asincereman5297]

When incredibles 2 was announced i was hoping to zarrick come back as the main villain and maybe some of the old scrapped script could be remade But well, we got a different thing sadly, hope they make a series with zarrick as the villain, like they made a sequel series for monsters inc

[@skivernatnjilten493]

To be fair, if the original villain was cold and calculating, he could totally take the position of making robots that evolve by learning. Not that much would actually have to be changed. And that sucks, because I feel like this beginning is much better. Edit: Yeah, your version was much better. It added complex family dynamics that would be a step forward even today, let alone back in 2004.

[@stiglapoint5672]

Reminds me of what Toy Story 2 could’ve actually been

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

What was the original script for Toy Story 2?

[@DoctorPhileasFragg]

I'd only want a 3rd Incredibles movie if it pretends it's the 2nd.

[@13Kr4zYAzN13]

Which would be weird that it would be the second time Pixar gets that kind of trilogy 🤔 But hey I'd take it 🤷‍♂️

[@tigervalley62]

@JayLeeBeanz: I never understood the cars 2 debacle. I loved the 2nd film, not as good as the first one but I still loved it for what it was. I remember really being shocked by how many people hated it when it came out, and as much as I tried to understand why, I just couldn't. It got to the point I just agreed to disagree with the Pixar fandom and I stand by that 10 years later.

[@kyleyuen245]

Incredibles needed a prequel, it built up such a rich world that needed more exploration

[@emeraldphoenix5868]

I think that Zarrick will be the Main Villain for Incredibles 3 and I think that the 3rd Film will focus on the Children,That would be Great.

[@mel3727]

I feel like i watched a whole ass movie damn that was compelling af

[@nicholasstansbury6848]

Bob in the storyboards looks like he would be voiced by John Goodman.

[@bornonwed2973]

I have to give major props to your script. Being that I have a stepdad who cared for me as his own from a very young age, this was very gripping and relatable and I think it's a side of family life that doesn't get highlighted enough. Very nicely done!

[@oop5488]

I like how he said "And got busy!" When he caught the whole family and saw their kids

[@MrPomegranX]

This sounds insane, waiting for the algorithm to show this to everyone

[@x10018ro]

I'm glad they went with Syndrome for the first movie. But this definitely sounds better than the second one, by a mile.

[@hiddendesire3076]

Ngl, your version made me tear up. As one of the six adopted kids of my family, it hit deep. My dad might not have fathered me, but he is my dad, and I wouldn’t wish for anything else.

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

That would have been an even stronger Incredibles 2

[@aaromotivestudio3869]

There should be a special edition of the Incredibles which would include some scenes that were deleted from the original. Brad did the same thing with Iron Giant

[@pattongilbert]

Anyone else remember watching these deleted scenes on multiple occasions when you were a kid because you loved the movie so much?😁

[@tacksgmvs2070]

Kind of would love to see this villain in a third movie. I don’t know about the relationship between him and Elastigirl, but an Incredibles movie that is centered a little more around Violet would be pretty cool. Kind of like to see a plot that revolves around secret identity. Maybe Zarik (I guess I’m spelling his name right) could be a character that thinks superheroes shouldn’t have to hide behind a secret identity, yet he’s also got some shady stuff going on behind the scenes, I think that would be pretty great. Also I’m not sure if the characters should age up a whole lot, maybe a couple years or three at the very least.

[@immortalityFNF]

DANG DUDE!!! You got me crying I could see this movie playing out your way. it could use some changes but the story and the plot. The movie would definitely be a lot different if they kept Zerik. Amazing content! you have a gift for story-telling, dude! keep it up!

[@snapeinvader6208]

This was a fantastic version! The intro had me smiling all the way through, and your reveal was great! You've got a talent for writing.

[@isaiahdaniels5643]

The main villain in the Incredibles universe is the Shadman

[@shesholdingcorn]

I always loved the original draft of the intro. It’s so charming.

[@obi_oma]

This was really great! I had no idea you used to make videos like this, and although your casting ones are just as great, I'd love to see more of these!

[@celebalert5616]

So sad they never made an Incredibles 2

[@patchworkfellow4262]

They… _did…_

[@celebalert5616]

@@patchworkfellow4262 you're thinking of monsters Inc, or Cars

[@jigglemyjam774]

@@celebalert5616 I know, how could they give Finding memo a sequel before Incredibles, I really think we need a sequel for the film

[@patchworkfellow4262]

@@celebalert5616 no, there _was_ indeed an Incredibles 2, I watched it in cinemas and Bryan _literally mentioned it_ at 0:20

[@celebalert5616]

@@patchworkfellow4262 "I took a look at what the film *could* have been" ... that's literally the very next words he says

[@2QAYL1138]

I think the bulk of this story could work in an Incredibles 3. They would just have to adjust it to fit with what they've done with 1 & 2. A lot of their origin story has already been told, but there's room for them to squeeze this in.

[@1ceBurger_]

I would absolutely love to see an Incredibles 3 explore more about the old glory days with all the old supers

[@ordinarygamer5755]

Your story is gold...no utter gold...easily one of the best storylines I've ever heard

[@WesleyWhiteside]

It's amazing how Pixar's story team is so good that even their cancelled scripts would make great movies. I've always wanted to see the original version of The Incredibles as well as Monsters Inc., although the finished products are still classics. If I had to make my own version, it would really hone in on the family disguising themselves being normal because supers are illegal. This was the pitch that captivated me as a kid before it was released. I really want to see the consequences of them using their powers in public, which for the most part, didn't play a significant role in the plot for either Incredibles 1 or 2.

[@curious5887]

This script is alot darker than the one we have

[@danielraviv4115]

They already went Dark Knight on The second Film ETC !

[@pedromelendez4625]

You know, that could've been a tear-jerker. I freaking love the animatics of these past ideas that could've been and even though I still love what we have, in the end, it's still great to ponder about these types of "what if". Thank you for making this video, bro. 😀👍

[@FlippenFox]

that story you came up with was so good!

[@ROOKI3LINKX]

This would actually be a good plot for a potential third movie.

[@Kenny-ep2nf]

With Syndrome as the main villain

[@davidostapenko2578]

Who knows? Maybe Zarrick will appear as the Main villain in "The Incredibles 3" that will most likely be released in 9 Years.

[@oilybat3269]

This should totally be made into a prequel movie

[@gatfatf]

Man I had the dvd as a kid and loved these commentaries and deleted scenes, this is a blast from the past!

[@MotionInTheIronSea]

you gave me chills with your imaginary plot twist wtf!!!

[@RamsiesjurassicSpencer]

Do the toy story 2 original script that never happened.

[@SuperMao33]

Dude! You made me cry. With the whole Father Daughter idea, this was an awesome perspective you thought of man. I am a filmmaker myself and like to see other stories from different people. If I were one of the top people for Pixar, I would bring this to life today. Even though you meant it as the first movie, with a few minor tweaks to make it fit we could use it as the third installment. It would be better than the second one we got for sure! Nice job man I’d like to see more videos like these for other Pixar Movies from you.

[@asetheface]

Someone give this man a studio team and some funding! I got so hyped just listening to your re-imagining of the film. As many times as I saw Incredibles 1 (20+ times), I would still love to see your version as well. That was nothing short of...well, incredible! Also, the deleted scenes are really good too.

[@thatguy8777]

Damn, that twist with Zereck got an audible gasp out me.