The Captain VS Murata The Pyro Archon Natlan Archon Quest! Why il Capitano Will Win Genshin Theory

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The Captain VS Murata The Pyro Archon Natlan Archon Quest! Why Capitano Will Win Genshin Lore & Theories

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@TheGamerChronicles999
@TheGamerChronicles999 8 ай бұрын
Ok getting this question a lot so I will address it here! The captain is ranked 1st of the harbingers as far as we know Arlecchino being 4th kinda confirmed this But he wasnt the first originally the jester was but now the jester is the director of the fatui organization including the harbingers so he is the lord commander and "head coach" of the fatui while the captain is rank 1 of the harbingers and is well, the team captain and the leader in the field, Otherwise he wouldnt be number 1, So when I say The Captain is the leader I mean in the way a Captain would be on a sports team while pierro is coach! Lol You need a leader in the field to accomplish the missions that is why he is nunber 1 CAPITANO💪💪
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
Your comparison is flawed, Capitano would be more like the no.1 player on the team, instead of being the actual leader, which would be Pierro and the Tstaritsa. Outside of his title, we have factually 0 information about him holding even the tiniest of authorities over the other Harbingers. The Harbingers are equal in a sense, because they can't just boss around their lower ranked collegaues. They get their orders from the other two I mentioned, no one else.
@TheGamerChronicles999
@TheGamerChronicles999 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps ur right we know little but the I disagree in that he has no authority over the others below him though but again at this point we can only speculate hopefully we get some hints leading up to natlan​@tamas9554
@anarchistofwar1971
@anarchistofwar1971 8 ай бұрын
are you Murata The Pyro Archon because you are the strongest? Or are you the strongest because you are Murata The Pyro Archon. - The Captain
@Ihatefoodbuffs
@Ihatefoodbuffs 8 ай бұрын
Who says because Harbringers get what they want, means they will win? archon quests has 3 chapters always. and always end with resolution. Harbringers is not a group that opens a war, theyre diplomats. Plus whats the use of the traveler if the outcome will just be between the archon and capitano? All I can say is, yes they will get the gnosis but its vague to say that its by the means of an archon losing to a duel. It could be something else or else the whole Natlan story will have a Bad Ending.
@Phentic
@Phentic 8 ай бұрын
Raiden is stronger than the god of war and thats already proven. with her puppet by her side she could destroy any archon, one by one. capitano only has a 50% chance
@mysticgoat8699
@mysticgoat8699 8 ай бұрын
i told myself that natlan is gonna be an arc full of fights cause they say the people of natlan talk with their fists rather than words and also i am pulling both MURATA as well as THE CAPTIAN
@Lord_Genesis_
@Lord_Genesis_ 8 ай бұрын
do we know Murata is current archon or previous archon. She was archon 1000 years ago and after that we don't know who new one is or She was new at that time that's why natlan people were slaves because of change of rulership(chaos whenever something like happenes) but the way Venti talks, She can be old one but let's see when time comes or let's wait for marvelous merchandise event, hope we get to know more about Natlan
@brodieschiffman5114
@brodieschiffman5114 8 ай бұрын
It was confirmed by Mihoyo that the fatui get all the remains of the 3rd descender
@Lord_Genesis_
@Lord_Genesis_ 8 ай бұрын
@@brodieschiffman5114 I mean bro, why are gou stating obvious even a kindergarten student can tell that faui will get all gnosis it's like a demon king summon story and no matter what villain will be able to summon demon king in last for mc vs demon king otherwise all just hype and story progress doesn't make sense. That can only fit in reality but not is fantasy
@zippo718
@zippo718 8 ай бұрын
Well no, its not a given because the "bad guy" is the Heavenly Principles, not the Tsaritsa. Whether the Tsaritsa gets all the gnoses or not, that bad guy doesnt change. Most of the gnosis were willingly given/traded to the Fatui, which shows characters like Zhongli and Neuv were not opposed to the Tsaritsa's plan. Also besides the Heavenly Principles, we have the Abyss as the lesser evil (they also want to destroy the Heavenly Principles, but are willing to destroy everything to do it so we have to stop our sibling).
@Lord_Genesis_
@Lord_Genesis_ 8 ай бұрын
@@zippo718 are you stupid. Let me ask first, do you believe in god. If yes then you shouldn't say primordial one is guilty here. He fucking created humanity and everything, even Apep says-I will see for how long heavenly principle's beloved Humans will go. The reason previous civilization was destroyed, there must be reason for that. Just like in reality, gods brings disaster time to time. Heavenly orinciple is just trying to protect from outside, which we have seen how that looks and harms humans. And human were punished when they crossed the boundry of humanity.
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 8 ай бұрын
"What is a God to a non-believer" - Chadtano
@hriata168
@hriata168 8 ай бұрын
On a different notes, Varka better look like a badass man in his 40s with a beard, maybe white hair and built like a truck or I will riot
@CarlosAnglada
@CarlosAnglada 8 ай бұрын
please and thank you
@manday2267
@manday2267 8 ай бұрын
I hope he will be sounded a bit like Crious, the big man who has beard, that we met in Noelle's hangout event.
@eurekadiaz3771
@eurekadiaz3771 8 ай бұрын
If he looks like lanky korean boyband or worse, a fkin shota bro, we should riot
@brabbits5308
@brabbits5308 7 ай бұрын
Lol i can already see that itto template body being reuse 😂
@triii8939
@triii8939 4 ай бұрын
Dante?
@leongwaikit6658
@leongwaikit6658 8 ай бұрын
Capitano: Look at me, I am the Captain now.
@Charlie-ov1bj
@Charlie-ov1bj 4 ай бұрын
much better than capitano
@bella_daze3092
@bella_daze3092 8 ай бұрын
For me personally- If Sumeru and Fontaine broke through what could be possible in an Archon Quest, Natlan will SHATTER that. I can just see a lot of fights, tension, and even a lot more deaths than we’d seen previously. I feel like Natlan will be the first time we see one or more supposedly playable character(s) die. It’s going to be what Inazuma could’ve been HAD it not been rushed. I’m still sad about it being done so dirty and wish to do a rewrite of it someday!
@vladianchis1580
@vladianchis1580 8 ай бұрын
Since the pyro archon who was also called Murata in many leaks and the manga might be an expy or inspired by Himeko Murata And after the whole Focalor and Rukkhadevata deaths I think we all know that she's gonna pull off an final lesson and die (or she might already be dead and the resurrection thing might be about her)
@erikboncoref.7020
@erikboncoref.7020 8 ай бұрын
Given that we're talking about the "incandescent ode of resurrection", I'm highly inclined to say that the Pyro Archon is dead right now; after all, in Fontaine, for the first time, an Archon Quest gave us no information on the next Archon...
@vladianchis1580
@vladianchis1580 8 ай бұрын
@@erikboncoref.7020 One of my theories exactly Another one is : So in Natlan apparently are supposed to be like 6 main tribes , also some leakers said that there are supposed to be 2 archon which we already knew but one male and one female but wait in the manga (which happened a few centuries after the archon war) the archon is reffered as she aka Murata and in the teyvat trailer the archon is still referred as a she so that might mean that Natlan might bring the first archon out of sevens who died for a reason soon after the archon war and also.was replace way before the Khaenri'ah cataclysm from 500 years ago So now begging with the real theory what if all these tribes venerated a specific god each who was killed during archon war and for that reason they are like Watatsumi Island with Orabashi or the dessert duelers with King Dessert or the followers of Havira the god of salt from Liyue or recently like in Fontaine with the people of Poisson who didn't venerated a god but after the 4.2 incident aren't really fond to the idea of the hydro archon but now instead of just one region not liking/accepting/venerating the archon is the entire nation who doesn't and Murata has/had very few followers of her own As to the fact that Natlan is the region of war and it also has the theme of resurrection the male archon, those 6 gods and Murata didn't just died and disappeared but somehow their spirits are still around and they have to fight eachother in order to decide ho gets resurrected after all Dainsleif said"The victor shall burn bright, while the losers turn to ashes" I think that we will help Murata in a way in this fight and maybe also help her against Capitano and the relation with her people since it was also said that she's goig to tell a secret(truth to the traveler)
@sambitgarai3195
@sambitgarai3195 8 ай бұрын
@@erikboncoref.7020I think after gaining the pyro gnosis. Fatui will try to resurrect the 3rd descender, since they will have all of them.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
No chance, the problem is that designing a character, writing their story, and hiring multiple voice actors in different languages is a large investment. They won't just throw away good potentialy playable characters just for the story's sake, its losing them profit. And most importantly, it will also displease the playerbase. For example with Signora, she was intentionally made unlikable, thats why they could kill her without having much backlash. Even then, there are players who are still interested in her. But imagine if they did the same with Capitano, the pure rage that will erupt from the playerbase can't be described. So I sincerely doubt there is any chance of a major character actually dying in an Archon Quest who has a unique model, or could be playable material
@kirkginoabolafia3650
@kirkginoabolafia3650 8 ай бұрын
You know what I also realized? Hoyo has gone out of their way to establish MULTIPLE connections between Mondstadt and Natlan that I haven't really seen with any other nations' relationships. We have Vanessa from Natlan establishing the Knights of Favonius. Venti's story quest is also related to the Mare Jivari, a windless wasteland in Natlan. AND Varka, the leader of the Knights of Favonius, came across Capitano on his travels, and I believe that heavily implies Varka's expedition is currently in Natlan, as well.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
That wouldn't make a lot of sense, as Mika said Capitano has departed from Natlan after they encountered him while reading Varka's letter. That makes no sense if they were already in the region. But I also have concrete proof. We know the following about the location of the Favonius Knight's expedition (mostly from the addition of Mika): "I'm writing to you from the northernmost reaches of Teyvat" (in letter written by Varka) "strange and foreign land" (statement made by Varka) "unnamable, wandering creatures" (description from Mika's character story) So truthfully Varka's expedition could have only headed to Snezhnaya.
@kirkginoabolafia3650
@kirkginoabolafia3650 8 ай бұрын
Damn, that definitely pokes a giant hole in my theory--- I now think you are correct, and that we'll meet Capitano in Natlan, and Varka in Sneznaya.@@tamas9554
@harukinakamura6630
@harukinakamura6630 8 ай бұрын
CAPHIMTANO 🔥 better put some respect on teyvat's biggest badass. He's basically the kevin kaslana of genshin verse
@kirkginoabolafia3650
@kirkginoabolafia3650 8 ай бұрын
What speaks to me about Capitano's raw strength is that the harbingers are not exactly ranked on strength alone, but a combination of both strength and usefulness to the Tsaritsa. For instance, Childe is ranked last, but could definitely beat a few of the other higher-ranked harbingers in a fight like Pulcinella-- but is nowhere near as useful as Pulcinella. I say this because we really haven't heard much about Capitano's usefulness to the Tsaritsa and I think that's because he is the highest-ranking harbinger primarily due to strength, and not as much usefulness. There's no way he is more useful to the Tsaritsa than Dottore, but I imagine he has a godlike power that we have absolutely never seen in this game's universe before. I can't wait to meet him.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
Childe's story states that "He is the youngest among the Harbingers, but one of the most dangerous among their number.", so yes, it pretty much confirms there is more to the rankings than pure combat prowess. How could Tartaglia be one of the most dangerous Harbinger, when he is the lowest ranked among them then?
@fufuwaanters
@fufuwaanters 5 ай бұрын
Capitano est l'humain le plus fort de teyvat donc si
@Fumokoshi
@Fumokoshi 4 ай бұрын
This also raised capitano strength farther because in rankings that based on usefulness but their nothing that tell us about his usefulness to tsaritsa only told about his strength it likely that he numbers 1 by strength alone just imagine someone so strong that their usefulness is more than scientists that can make god a mayor rich person that are bank of organisations how strong he could be for his usefulness to be that high while only thing that was told about him was his strength?
@superlol001
@superlol001 8 ай бұрын
“Nah, I’d win” ~capitano probably
@Spacecowboy1997
@Spacecowboy1997 Ай бұрын
then gets folded like gojo
@MaskOfMockery
@MaskOfMockery 8 ай бұрын
Natlan is the nation of WAR. If there's no war in Natlan, no carnage, no death, no blood spilled, I'll burn the entire genshin down.
@beepboop6263
@beepboop6263 8 ай бұрын
i hope they fight, They need this. If they fight i'm 100% Sure Captain will win. Only because they need this to really prove how strong the Fatui are, if the captain is #1 and he fights, he is gonna show how powerful the fatui are so going up against the rest of the fatui would cause a lot more fear! But really tho, Hoyo needs this to really prove the harbingers are extremly dangerous
@no0bzZ1502
@no0bzZ1502 8 ай бұрын
But I don’t think they should kill the pyro archon. With the hydro archon being officially dead in the eyes of Celestia, if another archon dies, the Heavenly Principles will come. And if that happens, not even all the archons combined would be able to stop her. So i think it will just be a knockout to the archon?
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 8 ай бұрын
​@@no0bzZ1502 Celestia is asleep 100% they would have done something if they knew an ARCHON just died but nothing happened. (Unless they are cooking something but that seems unlikely since nahida herself said that the heavenly principles have been quiet for 500 years)
@sae-breezy7206
@sae-breezy7206 8 ай бұрын
@@no0bzZ1502if the gnosis is broken not if an archon is killed
@tartagliasjigglydworshipper
@tartagliasjigglydworshipper 8 ай бұрын
​@@no0bzZ1502Celestia waking up prematurely will actually make the story more interesting
@indrarahmadani8373
@indrarahmadani8373 8 ай бұрын
A mortal stronger than a god is always stupid
@Ei_Shogun
@Ei_Shogun 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Murata will give the gnosis to the fatui but not because she lost. If we go back to the Teyvat Chapter Storyline Preview: Travail, Dainslaif states "when the god of war shares this secret with the traveller, it is because she has her reasons". This could mean that she gave the gnosis and shares her reasons to why she gave her gnosis with us and reveals that it's for a good cause or smt. Dainslaif also mentions that "the victors shall burn bright while the loser must turn to ash", possibly meaning that the wars could be like those in inazuma where the loser was to be executed when kazuha's friend was duelling Koujo sara.
@thatonexfallenangel7810
@thatonexfallenangel7810 8 ай бұрын
The beginning of that sentence was “the victors burn bright, while the losers must turn to ash”. That’s the secret that Murata/Pyro Archon will share. Respectfully, your point is self contradicting. The way Dainsleif said this in any case, sounds more like the pyro archon will die with honor, being the “loser who turns to ash” than an exchange of gnosis and secret.
@Ei_Shogun
@Ei_Shogun 8 ай бұрын
@@thatonexfallenangel7810 that is possible too but nothing is confirmed. That was just my theory.
@RS-lq6bx
@RS-lq6bx 8 ай бұрын
They are not going to kill an archon the biggest source of money in Genshin
@mintyyy111
@mintyyy111 8 ай бұрын
@@thatonexfallenangel7810i can see that happening. let’s not forget that the archon quest is called “incandescent ode to resurrection“ or something along the lines, so it’s likely she’ll be reborn as an ordinary human bc i doubt Hoyoverse will let an Archon just die and pass on the chance of making her playable. things will definitely get very serious in Natlan.
@lonelywolf777
@lonelywolf777 8 ай бұрын
​@@RS-lq6bx If she gets Himeko treatment then I swear.. Hoyo let her live in this universe
@sayedahmed1492
@sayedahmed1492 8 ай бұрын
10:49 I can see why would we assume that the captain will win and take the gnosis but I feel like that the traveler will end up with the gnosis and then use it to meet the cryo archon… but the captain taking the gnosis is the most realistic scenario sooo I have to agree
@alexanderericson8628
@alexanderericson8628 8 ай бұрын
I think we need more conflict than that. I think Genshin players are in for a surprise. They hinted at conflicts already in Mondstadt trade routes were being intercepted as far as I know no more Mora is being made after Morax handed over the GEO Gnosis. That means massive inflation in terms of the worlds economy. Once prices sore they will need to create more money in order to stabilize it but that wont be possible and that is by design from the Fatui. Everyone is going to turn to the Northland bank and the step from the Fatui taking over all together is not far away. They have the resources and military ready and able to handle a crisis like that. This was set up as early as Mondstadt and Liyue. They are focusing heavy on the northland bank and it's importance however that is controlled almost exclusively by the Fatui. Once the people understand that the archons are unable to restore order they will turn towards Celestia, and when those wishes turn to silence they will start to hate the gods instead.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
Genshin doesn't take economics that seriously. For example, Mora doesn't have a constant value either. In a Monstadt commission, when we get 1000 Mora as a reward, Paimon says that extremely little. Meanwhile in Fontaine, a rich man named Benoit murmurs in himself about how much can the young spend, when talking about a guy buying a shirt for the same amount. Its contradictory, the writers don't have to pay attention to it however
@donkey_mediocre7246
@donkey_mediocre7246 8 ай бұрын
I really want a cut scene in were the archons to truly go all archons aren't normal gods they hold with the dragons authority i hope we can see how they utilize that power
@leonardofranco1738
@leonardofranco1738 8 ай бұрын
I think a good storyline would be 1st going to Inazuma because there has been a problem, Ei's pupet has been destroyed by the Capitan in sake of revenge for Signora, then we go to Natlan where we meet with Wander searching for the doctor, a bit of story with the new characters and talk about dragons, then we find Dotore, Wander fights him and before wining the Capitan will appear and stop everything, some more story and we learn about the fight between the Captain and Murata in the middle of a battlefield, it will be so destructive that the Captain will stop and ask for a formal fight for the Genosis, some story with the Archon and then the battle, the Captain doesn't wins directly but shows his strength (could he use the Shougun's sword showing he has beaten things with the power of a god before?) wining Murata's respect and give the Genosis and then with all the Genosis they resurrect the 3rd descendent... or something like that.
@bella_daze3092
@bella_daze3092 8 ай бұрын
OH NOW WERE GETTING SOMEWHERE. I love this
@srikrishnak196
@srikrishnak196 8 ай бұрын
Cook
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 8 ай бұрын
Meh I think he will win
@WeNeedAMeteor38274
@WeNeedAMeteor38274 8 ай бұрын
I don't see the captain destroying the puppet for Signora's sake and I really don't see him break up the fight between wanderer and dottore.
@thomaskennedy5728
@thomaskennedy5728 6 ай бұрын
He ain't taking revenge
@Zodia195
@Zodia195 8 ай бұрын
Regardless of what happens, I wouldn't to fight either of these 2 lol. But I'll probably have to fight one of them lol. I'll be shocked though if the Fatui don't get the Pyro Gnosis. Now that we know what the Gnosises are, is it weird I am kind of glad that the Cryo archon is collecting them? Maybe she knew what they were to begin with and that's one reason why she wants them? Maybe also in some way by collecting the Gnosises she's trying to protect the other Archons? We won't know of course until we get to Snezhnaya. And even then I'll be curious on how THAT chapter ends.
@MisterUnlikely
@MisterUnlikely 8 ай бұрын
I think that Natlan does not mean the end of the archon quests; Snezhnaya will likely see the Tsaritsa betrayed and a "sympathy for the devil" plotline.
@oddityurie3435
@oddityurie3435 8 ай бұрын
The best to describe Capitano in terms of facing up against a God is to use this saying from that video about the evolution of the heart in PBS Eons in terms of survival of the fittest, he may not have all of the experience and skill necessary to face up a god but he may have just *enough* of it to have a chance and in the case of the Capitano a chance is more than enough and for human mortal terms then that is a leviathan's level of enough
@blackjoker6857
@blackjoker6857 8 ай бұрын
Honestly what i expect in the Natlan archon quest is that the traveller will be on the sideline at first but forced to join the battle, a fight against the pyro archon which resulted in her dying, and just like how pyro slimes explode when killed, i assume that there will also be a huge explosion. A new pyro archon will be created leading to the previous archon's resurrection and also signoras and quite possibly the third descender's resurrection as well since the title of the chater is Incandescent ode of resurrection.
@zMoirax
@zMoirax 3 ай бұрын
What is bro 🚬?
@dustinmattox9445
@dustinmattox9445 8 ай бұрын
Did you just discover the phrase “clowning on”?
@k.duelist4913
@k.duelist4913 8 ай бұрын
There is a possibilty that Murata being alive is just a facade. The war going on in Natlan is about who can ascend into god-hood thus fighting amongst the tribes 🎉🎉
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 8 ай бұрын
Ascend**
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 8 ай бұрын
Pyro archon will loss simply because Hoyo hates Himiko, LOL
@vladianchis1580
@vladianchis1580 8 ай бұрын
And because they're sadists who want to kill her in each universe Like let mah girl live her life not kill her off😭
@NorthWolf97
@NorthWolf97 8 ай бұрын
@@vladianchis1580 They already brutally killed off Tingyun in SR universe. They just keep killing the best waifus!
@manday2267
@manday2267 8 ай бұрын
Because she’s fighting The Captain.
@satishg5538
@satishg5538 4 ай бұрын
​@@vladianchis1580Become Otto
@gauravvikalp
@gauravvikalp 8 ай бұрын
Personally, Inazuma archon quest was pretty badly written… but the boss fights were so fun! Signora and Raiden bosses are some of the best bosses
@TheGamerChronicles999
@TheGamerChronicles999 8 ай бұрын
your right they had to rush it but I felt the stakes were higher
@mihacimpric745
@mihacimpric745 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, fuck those. The stupid gimmicks they have are terrible. The best bosses are Childe and Boreas. A measure of who can deal and tank the most damage. No bullshit mechanics, just pure skill and speed.
@harlinambury5131
@harlinambury5131 8 ай бұрын
@@mihacimpric745Childers fight is literally the easiest fight in the game he takes like four hits and I’m not some big numbers whale I’m f2p and kinda bad at the game boreas is fine but it’s not a very interesting fight the raiden fight was cool but too easy and seniora was just annoying and acted as a huge wall for lots of players
@mihacimpric745
@mihacimpric745 8 ай бұрын
@@harlinambury5131 I meant the mechanics. Of course the healthbars should be larger. But the fight itself is perfection. The three phases, the attacks, etc. Pre-nerf Childe was awesome.
@Roihclem871
@Roihclem871 8 ай бұрын
@@TheGamerChronicles999they did a good job of showing the stakes the thoma cutscene for example does more for me then “the water is gonna swallow everyone, promise”
@ilovehoyoverse
@ilovehoyoverse 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Columbina can use her singing to hypnotize people and control them, and she can dance around with attacks like nilou, I feel like if dottore is playable he can inject enemies with debuffs, and I feel like arlecchino will have a bleed effect. I also feel like sandrone will be a geo dps and capitano a polearm user. signora might come back as a catalyst user
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 8 ай бұрын
I feel like arlecchino will have something to do with blood like abilities combined with pyro (something like lady Maria from bloodborne)
@manday2267
@manday2267 8 ай бұрын
Arlecchino gameplay will definitely borrowed from the Newest 2 Fatui monsters that released; that trained by her.
@ilovehoyoverse
@ilovehoyoverse 8 ай бұрын
@@manday2267 I feel like she might either tie their healths together, making her stronger, or giving her a buff on how much health she lost, or making the health she loses after a certain time makes the enemies drain more
@anamggss
@anamggss 4 ай бұрын
@@feralsgoose turns out she's a blood mage, ur right
@cherenmertens
@cherenmertens 8 ай бұрын
What if Capitano is like an empty husk like the Destroyer armor from Marvel comics? The godkiller part seems accurate and the designs are similar.
@natediaz1863
@natediaz1863 8 ай бұрын
I think The Captain will not be deceptive in power, but in righteousness. The kind of guy who will slay someone who bests him with any deceptive tactic available like Guts from Berserk.
@irfanzufayri6116
@irfanzufayri6116 8 ай бұрын
That'd actually be pretty unique. It's usually the righteous mf who became the strongest through honest training
@Blue-wk4wx
@Blue-wk4wx 8 ай бұрын
100% agree he will clown on them all
@harukinakamura6630
@harukinakamura6630 8 ай бұрын
I think the main problem with most people is the way godhood is overrated in genshin. In my years of playing countless of games watch several animes and movies I have never seen a verse in fiction that Overrates godhood to this level. Most people dont really mind the idea of a human killing a god because its literally happened in so many stories in fiction. It's not rare for hoyo to also pull this type of narrative considering the fact their neighboring game honkai is literally a game where gods are killed by humans. Most pwople automatically assume that if you are an archon you are untouchable, undefeatable, etc etc by anybody that isn't named heavenly principles or celestia ( go abd try debating with any archon stan the first point they bring up is " he/ she's an archon " you'll know what im saying) Anyways, going back, they have a difficult time imagining a human capable of beating gods like raiden when in reality thats just them living in the moment. As a honkai player, i wouldn't be surprised if we see a human in genshin like Kevin Kaslana just capable of killing archons on a regular basis, and tbh, i live for that moment because i think it would be the moment where the stmetreotypical view of archonhood is destroyed. No longer would the archons be considered amongst the top in the verse the fact that there are humans/ entities from this world capable of such feats. The reason why i say it would be a sight to see because i bet you most archon stans would start complaining or even go as far as to threatening or review bombing hoyo for making a "shitty plot" according to their definition.
@citoyenneteavanttout7273
@citoyenneteavanttout7273 5 ай бұрын
Kevin is not perfectly a ''Human'' though. Don't get me wrong, I see that everywhere, but calling Kevin a Human means you just missed 99,9% of Honkai Lore.
@kaled20001
@kaled20001 8 ай бұрын
"The Raiden Shogun isn't the most resolved"... what? She has the peak of mental power we have seen yet in the game. She doesn't even have PTSD, her memories are painful, but she doesn't go crazy when you mention Celestia or her sister lol. She also didn't "hid her head in the sand when things got tough" ??? She meditated in the Plane of Euthymia as she avoids exposing her being because her mind would be slowly eroded like Azhdaha or how eventually Zhongli will, her goal and the goal that she promised her subjects was true eternity, and she herself needs to be eternal for it, this is literally said by Yae Miko, she just poked fun because you can see it like a child closing themselves on their room, not that she is mentally weak or something. She withstood 500 years of complete and total isolation(mind you normal people go crazy after a few days of total isolation) without hesitating nor reaching her limit, Furina's willpower broke by the time she got to 500 years, and Ei complimented her on that, but she herself doesn't even bulge at it, she even fought the Shogun Bot, who and I quote "Her will is stronger than any other living being's"(which would obviously include Capitano, so that's a no no already) in a realm of consciousness, where their power is determined by their will, and they fought for 500 years, where one mistake could lead to her death, and she WON, that is how insane her willpower and mental fortitude is. Imagine if the moment Furina made a single mistake in her 500 years long journey she would have died, just in the Archon Quest alone she gets nervous in almost all of her appearances. It's also said that by the Shogun Bot that her willpower is enough to, and I quote "penetrate minds and crush dreams", so not even Nahida's mind manipulation abilities would be able to affect her severely if at all. It's also mentioned by the Shogun Bot that Ei's skill and martial prowess has not declined in the slightest despite meditating for 500 years and even at the end of the quest it's mentioned that her martial arts have reached a new height and her limits were redrawn. Ei's mental fortitude and willpower is undoubtedly the strongest in the game as of now, and I don't think it's particularly debatable. I also have no clue as where you got that Capitano is "The embodiment of the Harbingers" or "Perfection" or "Meant to clown on Gods"??? Like, what does that even mean and where is your source? From all the glazing that he gets we know he is righteous, honorable and super strong, that's pretty much it, what does being the embodiment of the harbingers even mean? That there is a little part of Dottore, Pantalone and Signora in him or something? Most definitely not, to me it just sounds like all the things you want him to be, not the things we actually know about. Also Scaramouche is not the Shogun Puppet, not sure why you call him like that, and he also doesn't know what his mother is capable of, she literally never fought her or watched her fight, so again, not sure where you got that from. And Ei wasn't born strong or whatever, her literal twin sister, Makoto, was known for not being particularly powerful despite being in possession of the Gnosis and the elemental authority of lightning/electro, Ei was stronger than her even with those advantages because she TRAINED for thousands of years, Ei simply wasn't born the most skilled martial artist in Teyvat, she EARNED it. The narrative argument is also extremely weird, it's like you think can only end one way and only get there one way. Murata could very well win in a duel but gift Capitano the Gnosis because she respects him and his strength, and boom, there you go, Fatui got the Gnosis at the end, main plotline is intact. You can also have Capitano losing but leaving Murata injured and Columbina jumping her to finish her off and take the Gnosis, like, there's so many ways this could go about that it's just weird to me that you just tunnel vision an Archon Quest like this, especially since they have never even been this straight forward, we're likely encountering the Dragon Sovereign in Natlan seeing that it's the nation of dragons after all, that alone just gives new possibilities to everything that could happen. Also war, in all of its forms, is all about politics so good luck with the unga bunga side of it lol.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
Ei isn't mentally weak, she was just unwise and pretty childish, irresponsible, etc. Look at how he abandoned her creation, because she didn't want to intervene with his fate, but didn't consider that Wanderer will need her. I just think there is no point in debunking the theories of these people. The fact is, not only are they biased towards their theories, but also lack the sufficient lore knowledge to even do theorising in the first place. These people will twist the facts in their favor, even if it means twisting the truth as well. Although you saying that Ei wasn't born strong isn't entirely true either. Both Makoto and her were incarnations of lightning, gods just like Rex Lapis or King Deshret. Its just that Ei was the stronger fighter, because Makoto believed in peace and never even used her sword. It is unclear how did Makoto and Egeria die in Khaenri'ah, but none of them were weak at all :D
@kaled20001
@kaled20001 8 ай бұрын
@@tamas9554 Ei by the time of the Archon Quest is the _most supreme_ incarnation of lightning, not the only one, Venti could also be an incarnation of wind and he is weak as hell. Makoto was a pacifist yes, but Ei was very clearly the stronger out of the both, even though Makoto had the Gnosis, the electro authority, the faith of the people and the Musou Isshin, Ei was still stronger by sheer training alone.
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
@@kaled20001 Well then it seems you haven't been paying attention to how the Archon's work it seems. Venti as of now is weak, because he doesn't govern his people. Archons get weaker when they are absent, or "inactive". That is why Nahida is also weak currently. The problem is, even though Ei was probably stronger, we still don't know how Makoto actually died. We can't know what situation led to her's and Egeria's deaths. Maybe not even Ei could have survived it, she just thinks that.
@Ei_Shogun
@Ei_Shogun 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Murata will be the strongest archon in terms of strength while raiden remains the most powerful. I also think Murata isn't just about strength tho, maybe also battle tactics and all since she is the god of war, she should also know a lot about the battle field. Maybe like the greek goddess Athena.
@arlecchino248
@arlecchino248 8 ай бұрын
More like huitzilopochtli
@universalspaceexpeditioner8259
@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 8 ай бұрын
Murata stomps Ei. She is the Goddess of War.
@Ei_Shogun
@Ei_Shogun 8 ай бұрын
@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 goddess of war doesn’t mean she is stronger. We know ei is much faster than Murata and the mouso no hitotachi executed many gods in the past as well.
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 8 ай бұрын
@@Ei_Shogun We don't know much about the Pyro Archon yet apart from that she's a female and that she's the Goddess of War. That's it. We can't say anything on how strong she is or how fast she is, but I'm betting that she's gonna be on the same level as Ei and Morax.
@Ei_Shogun
@Ei_Shogun 8 ай бұрын
@@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 yeah we can’t say I was just predicting too.
@isaiahhaley4816
@isaiahhaley4816 8 ай бұрын
My personal take is the capitano will try to negotiate with the Pyro archon first if he is respected in battle then he wouldn’t just go off fighting Wooly Nelly because of that’s just his nature the other harbengers negotiated with the archons even ei with venti being a personal thing so I believe capitano respects the pyro archon but wants to prove he’s worthy of such a gnosis which is why he threw his hat in the ring of war, to show his strength in battle but I believe they will fight but not out of conflict but out of respect for each other, where they don’t use any outside elements just murata fighting him with her own strength without the gnosis
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 8 ай бұрын
I dont think she can win that way
@WriothesleyEdger
@WriothesleyEdger 8 ай бұрын
@@MihajloNasticI think it’s a 50 50 chance,Murata is probably older then The Captain so she has more experience I guess? but the captain is in top 3 of the harbingers which means he has a power of a god (or something like that)
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic 8 ай бұрын
@@WriothesleyEdger smh like that yeah
@amieldelacruz7010
@amieldelacruz7010 8 ай бұрын
Do you heard about the story of the Shattered Harberd, if he was a fragment of this said weapon, he probably has a chance, or someone with connection to Khanreah perhaps
@blackbird5176
@blackbird5176 8 ай бұрын
That was a top tier intro 🔥🔥🔥
@jordanmayne2270
@jordanmayne2270 8 ай бұрын
We know it's a lie tho
@sidlarson8374
@sidlarson8374 8 ай бұрын
we do how do we know that?@@jordanmayne2270
@ashrafhakim379
@ashrafhakim379 8 ай бұрын
​@@jordanmayne2270Nah Capitino is HIM
@jordanmayne2270
@jordanmayne2270 8 ай бұрын
@@ashrafhakim379 not when he's going up against Raiden
@Cannotlivewithoutviolet
@Cannotlivewithoutviolet 8 ай бұрын
​@@ashrafhakim379he would get slammed by ei lol💀 also hes featless andabout the statement, we dont even know did he really beat god of war or not,if he could that would be plot armor or just there is a two pyro archon male and female ones,caption could be male one and thought him is an archon,like mihoyo killed facolors and they wouldnt kill an archon two times,so raiden slams
@mysticgoat8699
@mysticgoat8699 8 ай бұрын
Tbh regardless of the fight between the captian and murata i see murata just gonna give away the gnosis anyway as i see her doing that because she might be a warrior who doesnt like to take orders from someone unless she is beat in a fight or even just giving it to him because he might be the very few people who gave murata an entertaining fight in a while something like that
@kushjindal2939
@kushjindal2939 8 ай бұрын
Dude we have not even seen her so let's wait
@darkohboy9648
@darkohboy9648 8 ай бұрын
heard this theory or a theory close to it several times now but honestly i think hoyoverse will surprise us since it's the last gnosis that the fatui have to collect. i have the feeling a 3rd party will interact in natlan. Maybe the witches or the master of childe or even the master of the whale boss (forgot the name) xD.
@proticchakma6834
@proticchakma6834 8 ай бұрын
Let's not forget raiden fought with herself for 500 years straight without a break
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 8 ай бұрын
True but erosion
@proticchakma6834
@proticchakma6834 8 ай бұрын
@feralsgoose yes but let's not forget the fact that she probably mastered every single move by fighting with herself for 500 years. So the current raiden is what we should be fearing
@NerdPanic
@NerdPanic 8 ай бұрын
Zhongli was a dragon sovereign. He made the first contract with the heavenly principles to become an archon. Then made the final contract with the Tsaritza, to end all (the first) contract (which might cost Zhongli his life, hence all contracts. The first contract is the reason he can't talk about the archon wars. Or anything.
@elnino3740
@elnino3740 8 ай бұрын
Zhongli is neither a dragon sovereign or a dragon at all. He shapeshifts into the form of a dragon like all adepti shapeshifting into an animal. Zhongli is a god, gods and dragons are different beings
@Shepard-l3z
@Shepard-l3z 8 ай бұрын
Nope. He is an adeptus
@piri_desu
@piri_desu 8 ай бұрын
Zhongli is Zhongli. Not dragon
@Chickennuggets8282-h4l
@Chickennuggets8282-h4l 7 ай бұрын
Nope he is the shade of life
@jordanmayne2270
@jordanmayne2270 8 ай бұрын
The jester is the leader of the fatui btw... And i just dont see the Capitano standing up to raiden at all and being the god of war doesnt necessarily mean that u like to fight...its just a title, zhongli was also called the god of war and you wouldn't really think of the god of eternity as a warrior god and one of the strongest IT'S JUST A TITLE. The tsaritsa is the god of love but yet still she is cold and locked out the world and is resented by her people so I wouldn't be surprised if murata talks it out with capitano
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 8 ай бұрын
This is more a headcannon theory. Not fact but yeah.. I fully agree with you. Everyone who is expecting a draconic war or a clash of titans in Natlan is gonna be sorely disappointed. I don't think that kind of telegraphed story telling is what Genshin is about.
@TheGamerChronicles999
@TheGamerChronicles999 8 ай бұрын
leader of the fatui organization and Harbingers yes he is like the head coach while the captain is well... the team captain in the field
@devilofgreed760
@devilofgreed760 8 ай бұрын
Woah the Shogun lacks resolve? No, her pain drove her to ignore the wishes of her people. She even fought herself for 500 years to alter that resolve when she realizes its opposite of the eternity her sister had envisioned
@aboal-fuad16yearsago55
@aboal-fuad16yearsago55 8 ай бұрын
GOATHIMTANO!!!
@jacobscott4072
@jacobscott4072 5 ай бұрын
Your video got me excited. I really want to fight il Capitano now
@_Nightmare007
@_Nightmare007 8 ай бұрын
"Raiden shogun doesn't have resolve" You're just objectively wrong. She is someone who fought her counterpart for 500 years at her full power. She resolved to stretch her loneliness to infinity to resist erosion. You won't find a character with stronger resolution than raiden ei. Ei is currently in her Prime. She recently had a bout against shogun who is stronger than anything Capitano fight. Capitano is just tsaritsa's lackeys. Shogun oneshots him. Now tsaritsa , she has a chance against the shogun.
@vision4900
@vision4900 8 ай бұрын
People forget archons are not "just gods" ye being stated to be as strong as gods but that doesn't mean u can defeat an archon 1 on 1 theres a reason they never fought with zhongli neither with raiden well venti is just kiddin he is literally connected to istaroth one of the four shades . Well if the fatui play mind games and get all the gnosis which they will eventually and it comes to endanger teyvat we have neuvillete to yoink em all
@universalspaceexpeditioner8259
@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 8 ай бұрын
HIMtano is just HIM. HE can't lose. I love Murata since Gunz Girlz times but Capitano is just the GOAT. HE is the verse low differ, he once defeated the Will of Honkai just by flexing his muscles. Da Wei, the CEO of Hoyoverse had to step in to stop HIM but Peaktano simply wrote himself to not lose and scaled himself above the concept of IP ownership and authors. He solos both reality and fiction. Not even Superman wanked by Death Battle can meassure up to HIM.
@dc9582
@dc9582 8 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks story wise, Zhongli is the strongest by far? And without a doubt considering all that we saw in the videos that were also officially released? Pluses he has xiao... I mean am I crazy to think that?
@citoyenneteavanttout7273
@citoyenneteavanttout7273 5 ай бұрын
Because you read through the lines probably. I mean the Archons used to gather in his nation for a reason, he lived the longest, survived more calamities, and fought more Gods... he had been a God of humanity that reigned through two very prosperous eras: the Guili Assembly Era and the current era. Some of the most distant and old architecture and ruins in Liyue are linked to him...
@JamesBrown-zu8iv
@JamesBrown-zu8iv 8 ай бұрын
After the Traveler Archon Quest as Khaenri'ah whereabouts, will they answers seeks for descenders of prophecies.
@GoldKoi18
@GoldKoi18 4 ай бұрын
I gotta mention Childe explictly says that he's seen him in battle before and if both Varka and Childe say he is strong and if he IS the leader then I think he WILL be STRONG most likely stronger than Childe. Childe fought traveler in liyue and the devouring narwhal for apparently 40 teyvat days which is stronger than archons as it took a awakened hydro soverign and traveler to beat it. Childe says Capitano is strong and with Childe also being a warrior than I doubt Captian is a pushover and with Scaramouche and Arlecchino both also saying good things about him it gives more credit to this.
@KategariYami
@KategariYami 8 ай бұрын
One small note - no shot Furina stands any chance against Columbina... Until we see her in combat, the understanding is that she's just a chill Human who don't want none of that heat. IIRC she lost against a Local Legend, and whilst they're very strong, they surely aren't even close to God level.
@robertmelconde8151
@robertmelconde8151 8 ай бұрын
if arlec will be playable what would be her voiceline of capitano
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 8 ай бұрын
She will be playable thats all we know
@King_gilgamesh123
@King_gilgamesh123 5 ай бұрын
Her voiceline on capitano just released, she stated ‘he is very powerful, and with such power comes with great responsibility, I believe he is a individual worthy of respects independent of the power he holds’
@FRaptor-wl6ku
@FRaptor-wl6ku 8 ай бұрын
9:38you kinda forgot the old fart considering that you said that the rooster is the Dragon of Snezhnaya and the old geezer is pretty up there and that’s coming from Scaramoucje considering that Scaramouche is literally in the middle of the pack and the rest is history with the lower ranked harbingers
@addictedtochocolate920
@addictedtochocolate920 8 ай бұрын
Capitano is being so immensely over hyped all i want is for Murata to beat his ass, like a true God of War
@Skibidi_Mewer
@Skibidi_Mewer 4 ай бұрын
when capitano is playable watch us die from a ruin guard first things first
@JohnCajuigan
@JohnCajuigan 8 ай бұрын
Good vid man you deserve 100k
@jacobbenjamin2664
@jacobbenjamin2664 8 ай бұрын
The REAL destruction that’s going to happen in Natlan is to my wallet lmfao. Pyro Archon is a must pull. If Capitano comes he’s a must pull. I’ve got my fingers crossed we will meet another playable sovereign and THEY will be a must pull. Plus all the cool characters we will get based off of IRL South American and African lore will also be a must pull. I’m already grieving my wallet 😂😂😂😂
@pizzaguy2385
@pizzaguy2385 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling Capitano is your favorite, and that’s valid.
@thintofu
@thintofu 8 ай бұрын
Personally I think the captain and murata will fight but it will be 2 rounds 1. First round they fight and either the captain is bested and escapes (because I find it hard to believe he would defeat the GOD OF WAR in only one round) or the traveler comes and interrupts and they end it there. 2. The captain and murata fight AGAIN in a longer battle that ends up in the captain winning because within the time between fight 1 he was going over their fight and ways to win and I believe murata will have a bit of arrogance that he can take advantage of and then gets the gnosis. or the rare second case where they don't fight at all and it is actually us who has to fight the captain in a battle set up by murata for the gnosis and the traveler loses.... we never know
@superfate9424
@superfate9424 5 ай бұрын
Well with the recent leaks it’s more probably Cap, Dottore, and Columbia will be up against her. I really hope the original Murata exists and it would be nice if she ISNT friendly toward the traveler. Someone who revels in fighting and maybe that’s why nobody ever has info on Natlan because they don’t visit or have diplomatic ties with the constantly warring and probably hostile country.
@TheGamerChronicles999
@TheGamerChronicles999 5 ай бұрын
Haha talk about funny go look at my newest upload its exactly that lol
@peterparker1262
@peterparker1262 8 ай бұрын
I'd love to see that fight between murata and capitano and yes I too would hate to see some political drama in the natlan like come on it's the god of war lets see them hands.
@Columbina.Damselette
@Columbina.Damselette 4 ай бұрын
No way another archon giving gnosis like it means nothing. They already did that theme with other archons over and over again. Pyro archon is the only archon who doesn’t want to give the gnosis before fighting. And she will win the fight and “losers must turn to ash” which means capitano will die. Capitano doesn’t seems like a playable character at all with his mask and weird outfit. I hope he will be playable but I just can’t see. Also seems like he doesn’t have vision either. So other character who will be playable is Columbina or Dottore. Pulcinella and regrator always stay in snezhnaya while marionette cares for nothing outside her research. And we saw in the Sumeru archon quest, Dottore has no vision in Sumeru. And I don’t think they will bring one in Natlan. Maybe in Snezhnaya but I’m sure its not in natlan. So the one who take the gnosis and have vision is Columbina. She has electro or cryo vision based on her design
@rafeyqureshi8134
@rafeyqureshi8134 8 ай бұрын
Personally I think having the god of WAR loose in a battle would be a really bad decision as it would make the story position her as weak especially in comparison to someone like ei, maybe if she wasn’t the god of war it would be a decision that’s viable. And also even though nahida said that the top three harbingers were on the same level as gods it doesn’t means that they’re on the same level as archons with nahida being inexperienced the reason why dottore would win against her but not against someone like ei, especially not at her full power
@Cannotlivewithoutviolet
@Cannotlivewithoutviolet 8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Discarded_Uzi
@Discarded_Uzi 8 ай бұрын
LEAK WARNING Apparently according to leaks capitano is the strongest human and being in teyvat ( which does not include the abyss). The next leak I’m going to share with you in a questionable one but apparently capitano is the only one in teyvat who has the right to challenge skirk. These are just leaks though so take them with a grain of salt. I do think that the god of war will lose in a close battle but hoyo might find some other way for the fatui to get their hands on the last gnosis
@rafeyqureshi8134
@rafeyqureshi8134 8 ай бұрын
@@Discarded_Uzi ngl I feel like that might be fake cause what about pierro and also at the end of the day capitano is still working for the tsaritsa
@Discarded_Uzi
@Discarded_Uzi 8 ай бұрын
@@rafeyqureshi8134 yea I’m not sure either, Pierro and tsaritsa should be better than him too. these are by reliable people, but I’m starting to kinda doubt it. I think that the captain will win somehow as he seems upfront and honorable and I doubt he’ll try to manipulate her unless someone like dottore or the knave does that. I could also see it being really close and the god of war comes out on top but as a measure of respect the god of war hands her gnosis to him (archons do seem to hate celestia anyway tbh).
@jakubbarczyk4310
@jakubbarczyk4310 8 ай бұрын
the reason is that the same person who leaked that also leaked 4.3 and 4.4 on point like months ago@@rafeyqureshi8134
@Chareddragon
@Chareddragon 8 ай бұрын
I think Natlan has domesticated vishaps rather than dragon people
@aion425
@aion425 8 ай бұрын
"Why il Capitano Will Win Genshin Theory" Because that's a fairly reoccurring trend for the harbringers?
@Unsaiko
@Unsaiko 5 ай бұрын
The power hop of each higher harvenger is grand though I think capitano will win not just because of plot armor but because he’s the strongest and he can’t let anyone else win his mental fortitude is probably more grand than any archon as a human ascending the level of gods that type of ascension is beyond anything any archon has ever got he worked for his power theirs was handed down to them. I also think columbina dottore will also be there maybe even arlecchino
@kingmike1831
@kingmike1831 5 ай бұрын
Ahhh I fight that will go down in Genshin Impact history.I fight we will love and cherish forever Who are all betting on
@yassin8036
@yassin8036 4 ай бұрын
bro I can't focus on what you are saying, if you put so much cool stuff on the video and everytime you put the manga, I read the manga and forget that you were actually talking 😭😭
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
Its impossible for a dragon to be chosen as an Archon, as they were opposed to celestia in the past. Archons are gods, but dragons aren't, they just fall outside their circle. So the idea that a dragon (let alone a Sovereign) would be elected as an Archon by the Heavenly Principles is impossible. And if it was actually the Pyro Sovereign, would Celestia really be willing to give their full authority back to them? No chance, people who say this don't have much to support their theory with sadly :/ The Sovereigns are also much stronger than Archons are. Nahida said that if Apep died, the whole of Sumeru would be overgrown by plants because of its massive amount of Dendro energy. It would destroy a region just by dying, meanwhile none of the Archons who actually died caused any destruction apparently. Azhdaha, who isn't a Sovereign (even if he was, he doesn't have his full Authority), was able to match Morax and three Adepti in a battle, and even in the end they were only able to seal him away because part of him was willing to let so. And Sovereigns were said to be the strongest of dragonkind, so if even Azhdaha isn't as strong as them, and he still manages to be more powerful than an Archon, that basically confirms their power. So if the Pyro Archon is actually a Sovereign, then Capitano would get stomped, really hard. I also don't believe that Capitano is lying to everyone, after all he can't fool the entirety of the Fatui with the likes of Pierro and Dottore :D But for him to defeat a deity who's on the level of laying waste to entire landmasses is just exaggeration. Morax can hurl Geo spears the size of skyscrapers, and Ei was able to easily defeat a god-serpent which was the size of an island. Even Barbatos and Kusanali would be similar in strength were they active in the current times. How can an ordinary mortal reach that level of power? Not to mention the Fatui could get the Gnosis in a lot of different ways. They've always resorted to peaceful or cunning methods except on one occasion, so I can't see why wouldn't they use a nasty tactic again. They could even use the Gnoses they already have :D There's also the fact that we don't actually know anything about the power level of the top Harbingers, as we haven't seen or heard about their exact combat abilities, we only have a vague statement. So until the Arlecchino bossfight comes out, I'm afraid this is as far as we can go :( Also, your points about Capitano being the "captain" because of some leader role among the Harbingers is baseless. Pierro is the head of the Fatui and all the Harbingers, and we know that the higher ranked Harbingers can't just order around their lower ranked collegaues, they are all equal in terms of authority amongst each other. He also isn't the enbodiment of all the other's strengths, we know the Harbingers aren't ranked purely on combat ability, rather how useful they are in progressing the grand scheme. (the difference between Signora's and Tartaglia's combat abilities didn't seem to be that far apart either, yet they differ a decent in ranking) And he was also never implied to be a scheming genius, that of course doesn't mean he is dumb, only that he isn't on the level of Dottore. The way you completely exaggerate his character from basically nowhere to being perfect in everything confirms your positive bias towards Capitano, and thats not a good way to approach story related content.
@Spacecowboy1997
@Spacecowboy1997 Ай бұрын
bro made it look like capitano has a chance against Raiden 😂
@erosama4887
@erosama4887 8 ай бұрын
How I expect the Natlan Archon Quest to go: Previous Pyro Archon: Nah I'd win. *Dies Capitano: Stand Proud Archon you are strong. *New Pyro Archon approaches Capitano: Nah I'd win *Dies New Pyro Archon: Stand proud Capitano, you are strong. *Traveller wins the Pyro Gnosis for a change.
@MrNoms-cn6px
@MrNoms-cn6px 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't make sense since the traveler couldn't care less about what the tsaritsa is planning with the gnosis only about his sister. Think about it if we really cared then wouldn't we have just barged into snezhnaya already. If anything were just bystanders that always just get in trouble with them
@Zarozian
@Zarozian 8 ай бұрын
Which gods did Capitano clown on? ;>
@HoYoNinety
@HoYoNinety 8 ай бұрын
I like the idea of this video, tho I gotta say (no hate, this is just honest critique): there was basically no real fact-based argumentation here, lol. All that was going close to an argument was the saying of Capitano working his way up in the fatui (while we literaly do not have a canon background or hints towards that) and even assuming that it is questionable if just the information of such an effort can be used for "powerscaling", especially considering an archon we talk about. What Nahida said for example is canon, but ofc interpretation as you say is important as well, so its also important to point out: while venti wasnt one of the strongest archons (but also not weakest if u look up his background) its quite obvious that he didnt interfere directly in signora taking his gnosis - clearly signora was NOT stronger than him, thats full cap considering the move she used to snatch the gnosis and stuff. Also its quite random how you mention that capitano must be the embodiement of all harbingers => no they are ranked by strenght and influence fairly combined, number 1 doesnt mean you have all the assets, yes you are the highest respectable representative but the used wording completely drags out the dimension in powerscaling to a weird point that just has no foundation, you know? This video more seems like a not based fiction so far than an argument based theory, if u wanna assume the later tho the arguments arent really thought out that well from an objective standpoint of rational thinking. :/ I like videos like this, but sorry a lot here seems like stretching and going a bit over the top, while the base idea isnt as bad to talk about - but thats only my critique! Have a nice christmas and new years eve everyone!
@tamas9554
@tamas9554 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, a very poorly established theory, its just clear that he has an extreme positive bias toward Capitano's character. I can't blame him about that though, I want to save for him as my next carry too, but that doesn't justify giving into bias and coping so hard, and ignoring the concrete info we have on him. Also, Venti was actually weaker than Signora, or at least the story doesn't imply otherwise. Venti explains it very well, an Archon has to govern their nation to keep their divine powers at the maximum, hence why both Nahida and Venti are currently weakened. Meanwhile Zhongli and the Shogun are still in full power. However, a lot of people don't tend to understand this, and they take Dottore's lines about defeating Nahida without thinking, and they come to the conclusion that he is on par with an Archon, which isn't nearly true. And there are a lot of other things wrong about this video that aren't worth mentioning. Although I would say that this guy is generally unreliable, he just gets a lot of things wrong about the story. It mostly comes down to how poorly he interprets the text, which is a great problem when you are a lore youtuber :DD Though I haven't managed to find even a single channel that actually has credible content, all of them give in into this baseless theorising. The Genshin fandom wiki is by far the most unbiased and reliable source I've found so far
@mitab1
@mitab1 8 ай бұрын
I Personally think, it could be possible that the Pyro archon being the sovereign, because maybe phanes the the pryo dragon came to an agreement or a pact of some kind, maybe the Pyro dragon tasted defeat for the first time at the hands of phanes and because of that they respect them, you don't know, I Personally think it would be more interesting if it wasn't black and white, and some sovereigns sided with phanes instead of fighting with the other sovereigns, because it seems like the dragons sovereigns never liked each other, so...
@1NabbinatoR
@1NabbinatoR 8 ай бұрын
i hope murata is not enough and we see varka dying capitano final form plot potentialy doing a 2 or 3 vs 1, murata, varka , and the traveler , we get beat left and right like ichigo vs ulquiorra various time before the end or like goku frieza and c17 vs jiren type of fight
@FRaptor-wl6ku
@FRaptor-wl6ku 8 ай бұрын
0:47 big dawg I can hear when those two fight I can literally hear Goku’s Ultra Instinct theme playing but if they don’t do it like ultra instinct I’ll be VERY upset or at least do something similar
@driplord6150
@driplord6150 8 ай бұрын
8:55 all that just so our boy Zhongli to solo :)
@rhozpogi
@rhozpogi 8 ай бұрын
you said shes same race as vannessa? meaning shes a human? we havent had any human archon.
@jordanmayne2270
@jordanmayne2270 8 ай бұрын
There can't be be a human archon...u can't be a human and a god....Vanessa was a human before she ascended so technically she isn't a human anymore
@rhozpogi
@rhozpogi 8 ай бұрын
@@jordanmayne2270 I know humans can ascend to God hood there's 2 of them mentioned. But the guy is implying that the Pyro archon was a human God when he said she same race as Vanessa.
@jordanmayne2270
@jordanmayne2270 8 ай бұрын
@@rhozpogi ohh yeah
@idkanymoreeeeeeee
@idkanymoreeeeeeee 8 ай бұрын
I personally think that the Jester is the Fatui's leader, not Capitano, the fatui are ranked by strength and I doubt that Capitano has every Harbingers' strengths.
@kirkginoabolafia3650
@kirkginoabolafia3650 8 ай бұрын
Yes I agree, I think most of the Genshin community agrees that Pierro is the "director" and does not have a specific ranking but oversees their operations, while Capitano is #1, so technically below him. That being said...who the HELL is the tenth harbinger??
@idkanymoreeeeeeee
@idkanymoreeeeeeee 8 ай бұрын
@@kirkginoabolafia3650 I don't know, some people says it's Diluc's father, but I highly doubt that.
@Albedomikans
@Albedomikans 8 ай бұрын
​@@idkanymoreeeeeeeeI feel it's someone who's all about stealth
@Albedomikans
@Albedomikans 8 ай бұрын
​@@idkanymoreeeeeeeeI feel it's someone who's all about stealth
@anamggss
@anamggss 4 ай бұрын
@@kirkginoabolafia3650 Wouldn't it be funny to have them purposefully unstated. Then you meet them as a deceptive ally for a long time. Kinda like HSR's Firefly twist.
@Sheerwinter
@Sheerwinter 8 ай бұрын
@_@ meanwhile, my hutao's 1 shoting all kind of boss.
@fufuwaanters
@fufuwaanters 5 ай бұрын
PLEASE COME MY 2 FAVORITE CHARACTERS
@shuvodev7888
@shuvodev7888 8 ай бұрын
I am thinking Natlan will have a tournament where everyone who wants to stop Fatui will come to stop Kapitano and lose against him
@youngrydah4374
@youngrydah4374 8 ай бұрын
The Captain can't fuck with Shogun. Ei's puppet demolish Signora without even trying.
@randomguy-yl2ml
@randomguy-yl2ml 7 ай бұрын
Yeah and number 8 of the harbingers can't stand to the number 3's feet, let alone the number 1, this is literally the strongest character within the strongest organization in all of teyvat
@vinny8589
@vinny8589 8 ай бұрын
honestly it wouldn't make any sense if Murata lost to Capitano in 1V1 Murata is a being who's been in near constant wars and combat for centuries she's physically, emotionally, & spiritually has far more experience in combat than a human like Capitano a mortal would have. "You are the Strongest Human.. What is a Mortality in the face of the Immortal Divine?"
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 8 ай бұрын
In video games the theme of "humans killing gods" is veeery common so I wouldn't be so sure
@dashhound8974
@dashhound8974 8 ай бұрын
Intro was mint
@YzacharRaval
@YzacharRaval 4 ай бұрын
We will fight columbina through TCG lol
@albertgongora6944
@albertgongora6944 5 ай бұрын
I'm going to be honest here I have to agree with the video I want to see the captain throw hands with our next archon because of he really is betrayed as the strongest of all the harbingers he deserves to show off why he is given that title
@jacobscott4072
@jacobscott4072 5 ай бұрын
Did anyone feel in danger when Dottore showed up in Sumeru because I did
@feralsgoose
@feralsgoose 8 ай бұрын
4:30 Wait I thought venti kinda pretended to fight Signora but let her take the w
@Soledat2500
@Soledat2500 8 ай бұрын
Murata and Capitano duking it out Records of Ragnarok style
@thatonexfallenangel7810
@thatonexfallenangel7810 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s debatable whether or not Il Capitano embodies the whole of the harbingers. I don’t agree that he’s nearly as smart as Dottore in science and general knowledge or Pantalone in terms of business, as bloodlusty as Childe, or as politically witty as Pulcinella etc. and somehow that’s just why they wouldn’t cross him. Of course, you’re entitled to your own opinion, however, it feels more like they have a sibling dynamic, where the younger siblings all respect the older one, because they know the oldest will make decisions in their best interest and will keep them safe should they come to harm (in this case, the harbinger have the same interests as the Tsaritsa). Another thing I wanna mention, while I’m sure most people agree Capitano is stronger than the Raiden Shogun, myself including, even if only physically, Venti says in his voice lines that she trained a lot as a Kagemusha to become as powerful as she is today, which simply means she wasn’t just born with all of her power. She still had to become a master of her craft, a master swordswoman.
@kitchen_sponge
@kitchen_sponge 8 ай бұрын
They do NOT operate by sibling rules. The literal only way the harbingers can feasibly operate is only by fear; if someone like tartaglia had found scaramouche while he was in possession of the gnosis and hiding, what do you think would happen? Would the two of them sit down and discuss returning to the harbingers by a warm and cozy bonfire? Absolutely not, it would be curtains for one of them guaranteed. There is no respect amongst animals like those, nor is there any trust. And its debatable that anybody, outside of a chosen few, actually even care about the tsaritsa, as shown by Scaramouche's vanishing act. In that sense, I also don't agree with him in terms of the idea that Capitano embodies the best of them all. What I believe capitano embodies is absolute loyalty, and absolute authority.
@Nine_Guinea_Pigs
@Nine_Guinea_Pigs 8 ай бұрын
There are so many things wrong with this video oml, Venti wanted Signora to take the gnosis because he hates celestia and seems to know that the Tsaritsa wants to rebel against it with the gnosis, they were very close friends before and you can see he wasn’t using his full power and was just trying to protect the traveler from the blunt of it, he wants to appear weak so nobody will fear him and he hides among his people protecting them from the inside, but he has leveled mountains and Terraformed an entire nation with the wind, taken on Durin and has connections with Istaroth herself, Signora was never anywhere close to him or the Raiden, Childe has gotten a lot stronger and is probably stronger than Signora by the time the Fontaine archon quest takes place, if not more so, your only argument is that the Captain has a reputation of being strong, yet we know nothing about him, how long he’s been alive, or if he’s ever even fought a god before in his entire life, archons are the strongest of all gods and being on “god level” worn out you anywhere near them, Nahida is a new archon with no physical ability and not used to using her own abilities that she does have yet so yes she will lose to most of the harbingers without help, though her support is incredible, Natlan is hidden and we know nearly nothing about it yet, not nearly enough to make any sort of misleading video like this about the Genshin lore even if parts of it do end up being true, one of the only things I can see happening is that Murata gives it up in some way, possibly to help rebel, she sees the people as her children and may see it as a way to protect them, Bennett is hinted to be from Natlan and she might want her people to stay in it, the curse of his bad luck might be part of it, her dying could be part of it as well, the slimes represent parts of the archon and the pyro archon explodes when it dies (dendro slime makes smaller slimes, there are 2 different electro slimes, etc)
@gautamnaik8812
@gautamnaik8812 8 ай бұрын
Probably among all archons zhongli is the smartest and most carefree person.
@AngelSeraph
@AngelSeraph 8 ай бұрын
For me the travel won against Raiden Ei because they are battling their will and ambitions and that is the reason the Raiden Ei lost, and when she battled herself for 500 years she won against the Raiden shogun because she has a stronger will to change her aspirations towards eternity. Raiden Ei is much stronger than her past that killed orobashi she has now the full power of both mosou no hitotachi and the ishin sword and never lost the battle with the Raiden shogun for 500 years.
@TheGamerChronicles999
@TheGamerChronicles999 8 ай бұрын
thats an interesting take
@sasukemadara5968
@sasukemadara5968 8 ай бұрын
Man I don't know about Ei as i think current pyro archon can be as strong as her if not stronger but if you wanna give that strongest archon title to pyro archon you have to measure her against Morax. And i personally think Morax is the strongest amongst the archons That guy is a freaking monster who makes a graveyard collection of his and with god's at the level or may be even stronger than Osairus.
@FRaptor-wl6ku
@FRaptor-wl6ku 8 ай бұрын
10:01 when you said that she loves strong opponents I’m thinking to myself “Did Goku and Vegeta marry the wrong woman” because fun fact big dawg Vegeta confirmed in Dragon ball super that Saiyans are a proud warrior race and LOVE strong women and well idk who would marry her Goku or Vegeta
@lazyrabbit7037
@lazyrabbit7037 8 ай бұрын
I can already see the Murata x Capitano r34 fanarts in the future
@r0n1n-
@r0n1n- 8 ай бұрын
Capitano looks like the Guts of Genshin
@ErnivVonLuinewyn
@ErnivVonLuinewyn 3 ай бұрын
Ei would mop the floor with him lol
@shsuemlshdk
@shsuemlshdk 8 ай бұрын
Bro just really hates raiden
@elite03
@elite03 8 ай бұрын
You sure she's not gonna die after we come in natlan? Imagine we come but the archon died
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