The Case for Dimitry | World of Warships Legends PlayStation Xbox

[@tombarry2523]

I took a chance a while back and put Von Essen on my Lenin. In my first salvo I deleted a full health Charles Martel so I've stuck with Von Essen ever since. Combined with high level Cunningham and Jaujard commanders, it seems to work well for me.

[@iamsuzerain3987]

This guy's seeing some action in my navy. He's running my Russian cruisers and inspiring my Hyde build. Like you say in the video, there's no way to gauge his impact on ship performance. I've got him at 14/3 so his base trait is nearing maxed. Might slot him in on my Norm Scott build and see if I notice any difference. I've played those American cruisers a lot so if there's any line where I might be able to discern a difference it would probably be in those ships. Great info and entertainment as always...enjoyed watching!

[@chibooga]

And the more angled someone has to be, the less guns they can get on you

[@7thsealord888]

Very good video, given me a lot to think about. I have often wondered about this particular Commander's utility. Guess it's time to start ramping him up.

[@ColrOutOfSpace]

Generally totally agree on von Essen’s trait. What I don’t agree on is putting him on the German cruisers. I have more pen issues than bounces, due to the German AP hitting hard but with weak pen. An angle adds an armour multiplier even if it doesn’t reach a bounce angle, and that makes my German AP shatter before I even reach bounce chance angle.

[@TbullGaming]

That's why I'm slapping em with Dimitri and Yamamoto both inspiring the build. Gives them a headache real quick

[@danielnwosu3971]

I actually use Dimitri Dewey on a few of my cruiser lines and I will say I've had more and more penetrations/citadel hits when I shouldn't have.

[@Chris_Bro_aka_MR_PLAT1NEM]

It's a great idea. Gonna try it out.

[@BigRedOne-xj8br]

This is where training rooms will improve play. Repeatable tests to confirm

[@neojso]

Seriously we need a third inspiration slot

[@davidharless3752]

I run this with jo jo on all my battleships. it really shows a its self to me on angled cruisers.

[@lillpete64]

100% in agreement my dd is 16/3 and have him on ALOT of my ships highly recommended.good demonstration

[@Zeronic8108]

I use it on my French BB's. Or long ranch ships, really good chance to get that extra citadel. 🤟🏻

[@Indirect92]

I have Dimitry at 15 legendary 2. He has been paired with Hyde for my German battleships. I’ve always found him to be effective. Gonna have to look into cruisers now though!

[@Justin-st5xv]

When we get the training room we will get to see the impact of armour penetration inspirations and abilities. Also to add I would put Essen on the NC and Massachusetts as they also have the increased armour penetration angles.

[@daddymatty5869]

You've mentioned him in passing several times. I started using him w/ hms cruisers & pretty much have him locked there now

[@craigjohnstone9624]

I did the entire destroyer line using the guy.Was a joy 😎

[@camrsr5463]

anything that turns 0 damage into some damage is ok for me.

[@davefinfrock3324]

It become more interesting when you add von Essen's ability to ships with enhanced pen to begin with. Stacking him with Hyde for oddball German BBs like Odin or Scharnhorst also should prove interesting. One problem is sussing out what WG means by 'enhanced penetration.' Shell normalization was a thing with AP shells, but how far WG carries it is the question. They do use these sorts of hidden stats as game balancing mechanics, but how they apply it is an unknown.

[@time4anewsystem452]

I completely agree with you. WGing is known for shadow adjusting both perks and ship/tank specs to keep a balance. The say that they don't with ships which I'm calling BS. That's why I don't spend a lot on this game and never will because of there tactics

[@davefinfrock3324]

@@time4anewsystem452 The really obvious stuff they usually don't fool around with. Looking up belt armor of capital ships isn't hard. However, they often leave things out like belt inclination or even multiple armor decks (KGV). They also don't show everything in the viewer even though it might be there (Cesare's bow). Throw in stuff like armor metallurgy and shell construction and you have lots of esoteric areas that you can fiddle with for balance. At the end of the day, this isn't a simulation, so you shouldn't think of it as one--at least not a very strict one.

[@time4anewsystem452]

@@davefinfrock3324 we all know what rank and arena is for... nerfing and buffing

[@mightymacgregor769]

The degrees seem like not a lot to add. But putting it in a percentage puts it in perspective compared to other commander traits. I wonder the percentage of shots that ricochet vs shots that shatter that could be helped by increased pen multiplier vs increased pen angles.

[@TbullGaming]

The big percentage increase inspirations that come to mind are this one, al Atago and the reduction in enhanced visibility commanders (violet, lemon and whatever the anime BB one is that just came out). There are probably a couple others, but when it comes to having an influence on the build, the high percentage ones have to be taken seriously.

[@vaughnedwards1724]

I understand the principle and i will try it and see...

[@Berserker_4517]

I use him on Kirov and Molotov and as an inspiration on a couple of other builds.

[@UnfairEnforcer]

I thought the title was “The Case of Dimitry” and that you were going to talk about throwing the game 😆

[@danielnwosu3971]

I almost thought the same till I saw the thumbnail

[@stoutjudas9868]

Unforgettable moment

[@vynnxa6416]

I think it'll work best on brawler ships.. your going to be close so dispersion builds wont make as much of a difference at 10km n its more likely they'll be angling sharper when closer.. so widening that gap for shells to get through should benefit.

[@TbullGaming]

No doubt, that's likely why the Hide commander with the alidad perk is set up how it is.

[@jakecrulcich1049]

Who can argue with maths! I run Jujuard on frequently, maybe a vid onthe effectivness penetration multiplier vs ricochet angle?

[@joeboyd3274]

Been looking at this for a while now, also I want to try von e on my Russian destroy line for the turret traverse.

[@greggmiller423]

I have been using it for a while and I think works

[@SbrGrendel65]

When he came out I was thinking he could help, you get a captain who’s good at keeping an angle you could punch him with that perk. Ever little bit of an edge is good! Look at traverse speed 1.2 degree is a big boost now Dmitry is a 4 degree boost so……

[@Notthecobracommander]

Maybe a good option on the ships that have smaller calipers like the Florida and the King George v. I have found that Commander abilities that fix weaknesses of vessels tend to be better than ones that improve strengths. Ie reload on the new American battleship line 34 sec is way too slow.

[@TbullGaming]

That's the age-old debate: whether to boost weaknesses or enhance strengths?

[@alaskanfire6525]

I would apply the same logic I do in real world and coaching. On a scale of 1-10 If you have a strength that’s a 7-8 and a weakness that’s a 3; if you raised one by 2 it makes you a 9-10 and the other goes to a 5. In the business world nobody pays top dollar for average. But an 8, 9 or 10 is the best at a category. In the game it may be worthy to raise the 3, but having a category at a 10 still seems very beneficial. Excellent videos sir.

[@theleo91386]

I use him on the majority of my AP-centric builds. I find him more useful than the captains that increase the pen value or buff AP damage.

[@BrawlDayLong]

Sir! Does nooks and crannies apply to secondaries.

[@cheesetoastie9678]

Are you 100% sure the British CL's have enhanced pen angles on their AP by default? First I've ever heard of it. Leander used to be one of my favourite a year or so back, can't say I noticed it.

[@TbullGaming]

Google "WoWs wiki penetration" and find the chart towards the bottom. The PC data is all we have to go by, but my experience strongly backs up the idea that they do have the enhanced values

[@jakesink77]

I like this on german cruisers

[@unclejohnieplays5651]

Any thoughts on madden vs the reload commanders

[@TbullGaming]

My advice on Madden is to put on Jellicoe making sure that build has no effect on reload time/traverse, and then put on Madden again making sure that his inspirations don't affect those two values. Check the stats between the two builds, and see if the change in performance warrants using him. The two or three times I've checked that, it didn't strike me as worthwhile

[@danje4001]

How does this interact with armour pen perks or do they need to be regarded as completely separate entities?

[@TbullGaming]

Different factors. When dealing with a perk like this we are trying to covert ricochets into penetrations, and with the AP pen boosts we are trying to convert shattered shells into penetrations.

[@horuslupercal6923]

How about Hyde with Dimitry?

[@joshgroenewald7454]

Wat camandor do you guys use on the York I am having a hard time playing with it

[@nukefluke]

Lutjens or von Muller, I think they're both good. If you're dying easily, maybe go with Lutjens and keep moving around islands while HE spamming.

[@joshgroenewald7454]

@@nukefluke Thank you ❤

[@emperor_pewpew2903]

That build could only mostly work if 1 your rng is godly 2 your ships accuracy is also godly..

[@nateshaffer775]

Alright so, I've been on board with this theory for a while. My von essen is only a 8 and I don't have the Halloween Commander to double this park up. However I did take two things from this video. One, didn't realize how drastic the sticky shot perk is for US heavy cruisers and I would like to know where you got the numbers for the penetration angles on the US and UK cruisers. Two, if I see Tbull on the high sea with a tier v-vii US or UK heavy cruiser, there will be no such thing as angling against his terrifyingly accurate AP. 🤣

[@TbullGaming]

Those penetration angles are from the pc versions wiki

[@Wigmore72]

I can never seem to get turret pens... I know I'm doing something wrong, but no clue what.

[@TbullGaming]

If you're shooting a battleship it will usually take battleship caliber guns, if a cruiser it will take cruiser guns, etc. What vertical angle the turret face presents also matters. Soviet and french turret faces are nearly flat, and make them easier to knock. Japanese, Italian, American tend to be really angled and harder to knock.

[@Wigmore72]

@@TbullGaming thanks for the reply. So I should stick to HE even with heavy cruisers when shooting BBs? Also, guys seem to be able to smash me, even from distance no matter what BB I'm in, even when bow tanking, but I can't do the same. When aiming at bow, Where should I be be trying to place my shots? And when aiming at broad, do I aim waterline or edge of deck?

[@notthatproud7453]

This is a good explanation. In my opinion, Yamamoto is the better inspiration for boosting AP performance. However, I do use von Essen as my commander on the Leningrad. Burn it down, criss cross, velocious, reaching out, Sims, Trubs. Plays like a downtiered Tashkent. Best regards.

[@TbullGaming]

I would love to see a breakdown between the two. There are some instances where Dimitri would be better, and some where Yamamoto would be better. I would suspect favoring Yamamoto would be better in general, as you suggest. Currently I have my US set up with Dimitri and Mikawa, and both the UK lights and heavies plus German heavies set up with Yamamoto/Dimitri

[@angusmackay7281]

I put a lot of points into him early on. He definitely makes more sense as an inspiration rather than a Russian cruiser commander in his own right. My win rate with Kuznetzov is way better.

[@TbullGaming]

Definitely, I would not run him on anything than perhaps destroyers, but even then he is not favored as a captain in my navy. Inspiration-wise he might secretly be among the best

[@nateshaffer775]

Tbull I need help getting into the d lounge.

[@TbullGaming]

Send me a PM on discord with your screen name and I'll get you set up tonight

[@pedrobcoutos]

what’s the d lounge?

[@nateshaffer775]

@pedro it's where all the members meet once a month, we come to an agreement on a Target from The Blue team ( usually it's DD players that Rush cruisers at point blank range, or BB players that put their shipping reverse and set the controller down for first 10 minutes of the game, or cruisers that sail broadside to every single BB that they can see.) We hunt them down, revoke their duck flags and then sacrifice them to the wargaming Gods. 👌

[@CalebRemastered]

Sticky Shot

[@severe_gas_cramps2587]

Please start making video's again

[@jtrankgaming9052]

Great info but I think the cost of an inspiration is a little too steep. I still prefer to spec for accuracy and stealth or agility. Also most players are pretty easy to bait into showing broadside.

[@dopedwookiee]

oleg or no balls