The case for stubborn optimism on climate | Christiana Figueres

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"This decade is a moment of choice unlike any we have ever lived," says Christiana Figueres, the architect of the historic 2015 Paris Agreement. The daughter of Costa Rica's beloved President José Figueres Ferrer, she shares how her father's unwillingness to lose the country he loved taught her how stubborn optimism can catalyze action and change. With an unshakeable determination to fight for the generations that will come after us, Figueres describes what stubborn optimism is (and isn't) -- and urges everyone to envision and work for the future they want for humanity.
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[@willdenman999]

Amazing and truly hopeful speech. I also believe that all the things we need to do can be done too, and that this is not the end!

[@racugonza]

In Costa Rica we are proud to call Christiana Figueres as one of our own. She perfectly represents our commitment with education and social justice. Our best wishes to all her hard work to overcome one of the biggest challenge we have as human beings, the climate change.

[@loopiloop]

TL;DW Don't be a Doomer, but don't think the problem will go away on its own either.

[@alexandermarcogoldmann5940]

Everybody should take responsibility to his environment, his neighborhood, his life. If do so, everything would be much easier and better.

[@cyberoptic5757]

I'm working on lower emissions. Driving electric for 3 years now. Planning a solar installation. I will change the things that I can control. I will VOTE every time for the candidates in line with the reduction of carbon emissions and the reduction of uncontrolled methane. However, I'm an American and in my country, the GOP/Republicans intend to destroy the environment for profit.

[@cyberoptic5757]

@Shane d You misunderstand my investment or misrepresent my intentions when you say 'make belief'. I put my money, my time, and my effort down on the change I want to see.

[@LindaMcification]

@@cyberoptic5757Alternative energy e.g. solar power, wind will take on. We need to bring down carbon emissions. These are facts based on science.

[@tonydurack6841]

@@LindaMcification this 'global warming', I mean, 'climate change', I mean, 'climate emergency' is a psyop that profits its architects and bought & /or blackmailed turncoats. Carbon is the basis of all life, and you've been duped to believe it's the ultimate enemy. How much tax are you willing to pay per outbreath? Of course, not filthying our environment is very wise, but our continued existence isn't subject to it. Better we devolve back to self~sustaining communities, away from globalism and centralisation, which are the real destroyers of our environment.

[@ianwoollams6102]

i'm trying to be part of the solution. Thanks Christina and Tom for writing such a hopeful book, with a pathway to survival for all our children.

[@TessLiVolsiAmoruso]

Thank you for this. I’m going to share this message widely.

[@nievesrivera652]

Dear Christiana, keep on keeping on, will get there!

[@ambivertseph]

I love how she delivered this powerful speech! Her conviction and 'stubborn optimism' are contagious. 💚

[@natalianara8847]

Very good. An excellent video. Great content.

[@karenness5588]

Hola Christina, saludos from Guatemala. You brought tears to my eyes. What kept me listening after you said social justice was your mention of Rule of Law. I will begin by trying to establish my credibility in the realm of ecology, tell you about my ecological footprint. I have no car; I walk or ride a bike very few exceptions, then it's shared transportation with at least four other people. I rarely travel by plane. My non-organic waste, which I compost myself, amounts to a one gallon bag every couple of weeks. I don't use insecticides or herbicides, except for occasional boric acid to keep ants and cockroaches out. I eat almost no processed food and my diet is very simple, two and a half pounds of chicken meat and organ meats a week between myself, three cats, and a neighbor's dog. So, i think I have done my part to avoid contributing to anthropogenic climate change, given that it is wholly anthropogenic in origin, which I am not completely convinced. Now, to the Rule of Law. I am completely convinced of its necessity if we are to solve all the problems facing us as a species and even problems facing the planet and life on it. Without Rule of Law, there can be no collective action. Without collective action, we can't solve big problems. But, here is the heart of the great divide that has the human species so polarized, not all collective action is respectful of the Rule of Law, as the collective action by the military in your personal history seems to prove. Let's assume for the moment that the military were wrong; their action was unlawful. Why was it wrong, unlawful? It was unlawful, most importantly, because they violated freedom; they used force, or the threat of, to overthrow an election that, we will suppose, was free, in other words, conducted without coercion or deceit on the part of the participants. Perhaps the military also violated the Constitution, the social contract between the politicians and the People, and so, they violated the (hopefully freely negotiated) right of the People to decide by majority vote on how to hire the people who control collective force. Those two principles, freedom and rights/obligations, together with respect for property (without which there is no basis for negotiation) and equitable compensation for proven damages are the foundation of human society, of collective human action. If these are not respeced, we do not associate; we do not form societies; we do not act collectively. The Law must defend these if there is to be any collective action at all. In other words, collective action itself must not violate these principles or it will destroy itself. These principles are the Law, and the Rule of Law is when collective action and the institutions that have evolved to organize that action do not violate the Law itself, do not violate what makes collective action possible. That includes legislation as a means of collective action. Legislation must also not violate the Law or it will destroy society, sooner or later. I hope that humans are not ignorant enough to destroy the planet's only hope of preventing the destruction of the planet and all life on it by meteors and other problems that only the collective action by humans can solve or, as Thomas Sowell says, find alternatives for. Climate change, assuming it is anthropogenic (or not) can be solved without violating freedom, property, and rights/obligations, but we must not make the use of force more inclusive than for the strict enforcement of the Law. It's much too dangerous, genocidally, speci-cidally, planecidally, dangerous. What we can make more inclusive is freedom and property. We can extend the respect for the freedom and property of more life forms. We can, voluntarily, give equitable compensation for proven damages to the species and territories we have extended the respect for property and freedom to. (Proven damages because unlawfully violating the freedom, property, and rights of individual humans weakens collective action the way a virus can weaken and even destroy an organism, one cell at a time.) Pollution has a perfect solution in the strict protection of property. Your garbage is your responsibility; don't dump it in my property, my land, my water, my air, my body, etc. Enforcing the Law is Justice, it is social because it preserves society. Anything that violates the Law is anti-social by definition. What we need is for the Law and Justice to be more inclusive, to apply it equally among all human beings so that our collective force is not drained by divisions and we can then extend the Law and Justice to as many other living things as possible. Let's get our own house in order first or we won't have the strength we need for more.

[@thekerneljames]

Love n Light to all the visionaries who remind us to tap the visionary within each of us. Together, we can do powerful things.

[@evanparent07]

I'm Vegan; that's the bare minimum we can all do ~3 times a day to preserve the future and it's actually an amazing lifestyle with so many benefits, I love it (and the food)! :)

[@ddpwe5269]

The brainwashing is too strong in the majority, but we're growing slowly! =)

[@ddpwe5269]

@@zUJ7EjVD chuckle, don't be a naive little child. If you know the 'state of affairs', then it's not just one government, but our ENTIRE PLANET that is the problem. Whether you feel obligated to do something or not is entirely up to you, but if you KNOW what's going on and still choose to do nothing. You ARE apart of the problem. So it doesn't matter how far you go, THE MAJORITY, do literally NOTHING. So whose going to be the pathetic losers to kill off the planet or will people see the light and actually make changes before it's too late? hrmmm, we love to make the same mistakes over and over, rarely learning from them.

[@christophergruenwald5054]

Vegan are destroying the planet. Your food destroys land with heavy tillage which kills the soil and erodes the land into the Gulf of Mexico. Cattle raised with proper management actually rebuild the soil and land. It’s not common, but check out what Greg Judy is doing with his happy cattle.

[@rankemperor]

@@zUJ7EjVD There are too many people. It's got nothing to do with diet.

[@ddpwe5269]

@@christophergruenwald5054 Here we go. Our food? If you did ANY research, you'd have found out that 85% of all land grown crops are fed to ANIMALS. So your argument is moot. Care to fire off another uneducated comment? We make enough food for almost twice our population, but yet we have almost 1billion people starving.

[@Salishalliance]

Inspiring. Thank you for sharing a story of hope and aspiration. Count me in.

[@blueberriechiiizcake]

This beautiful, truly. ❤️

[@Lilzvx]

Christiana you're amazing!

[@lola-tr3ss]

i love her speech :)

[@KRISATAHA]

BLESSED BE INFINITY 🐾❣️🐾

[@doug-n-peg2828]

Christiana posted this five days before the U.S. election -- that itself was a statement of optimism! Also check out the podcast she does -- Outrage and Optimism.

[@climatesolutioncenter]

Love it. We've got this, we just need to keep pushing. 👏👏

[@vthilton]

Save Our Planet

[@Hunter-nr5iu]

Vote!

[@TCRgalaxy]

Not even close...DONT BREED

[@benghida01]

Keep your efforts up .

[@MarkSHogan]

Thank you.

[@katrinaannemanguiat5310]

you are so right.

[@VijayKumar-ij2cc]

Very nice views. But how to do it in counties like india, where corruption is rampant among politicians from top to bottom and population reaches unbearable counts. Should UNO not think OVER such problems and help such countries?

[@godislove8740]

India? The whole world is corrupt and bankrupt.

[@healing_with_rodrigues]

🙏

[@Shazistic]

Don't let pain define you, let it refine you. -Shazistic

[@SuperTonyony]

Our species is in overshoot, and civilization is a heat engine. The second law of thermodynamics leaves no room for "optimism".

[@lola-tr3ss]

i agree with you !!:)

[@thesleeplesstm]

How can we help?

[@JuliannedeWitt]

Its hard to see climate issues where I live, but what we do see is destruction of farmland. If farmland is preserved and farming shifts to sustainable and environmentally friendly and even beneficial, we will make a difference in these climate and environment issues not just locally but globally as well!

[@aerigowon9832]

I dont understand anything but still watch lmaoo

[@brett4264]

That's nice but please don't vote!

[@luise4236]

Bujare Ademi xD

[@carlomatismus8458]

Subtitles?

[@rdhamapurkar93]

Dear all, I was wondering , when we talk about today's money and also about Climate change as big problems, we say money is created from thin air. There is no backing like gold for this money. I was thinking the money printing is done by cutting trees, why don't we have a system, where the entire money supply is backed by valuable trees which have value and usability, plus they are life force on this planet. This way we will value the trees plus we will save the planet and stop Govts to print money as and when they want it. Please share your thought and if someone from Economics can explain about it, whether it is possible or not.

[@quaoar213]

There is NO case other than fear. The most optimism we could have would come from intelligence, not belief. Being optimistic is knowing we are capable of adapting to what is inevitable. There is only hope in believing we can stop a process billions of years in tbe making. Before anyone responds with words, save them. Science is data....not belief.

[@thesleeplesstm]

Best 8 minutes

[@ddpwe5269]

The number one thing that literally EVERYONE can do, is to go whole food plant-based. If you really think you're doing your best at reducing your carbon foot print(because we know companies/government are going to take much longer to help) and you aren't whole food plant-based, you really need to do some research. The animal AG is destructive in EVERY aspect of their business. The easiest thing for anyone to do and no one wants to talk about it. It's really sad that we have all these people that say we need to do something and soon, but don't give any recourse. Yet, we have this one HUGE direction that would be absolutely massive in reduction, but no one even wants to make a peep. It's really sad that people are more obsessed with their taste buds, than they are with fixing the planet. I guess the majority of the planet are narcissists and will never see the real truth right in front of their eyes. smh

[@techtheawesome3914]

don't forget to VOTE! (if you're able to)

[@TCRgalaxy]

Wrong...NOT breeding is the only solution, and every single one of our fellow earthlings would agree...🐝🐝🌎🐝🐝

[@ddpwe5269]

@@TCRgalaxy You obviously didn't read what I typed, no where did I mention we should be eating animals, right? boggle

[@daneswanson7404]

Follow the money

[@dreyasura]

Yay the early bird Woohoo!!

[@dreyasura]

First comment YAY

[@felicvik9456]

no

[@qonahmobarakssecondalt5682]

Yes! Okay. Mrs. Bird is the Word

[@1.5Koreans0.5American]

There should be a course called TED in schools

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@Fight MMA : Says the guy with nothing to offer other than kindergarten style name calling.

[@AnkitKumar-rh8il]

nice one 😀

[@chrisaguilera1564]

Is there such a thing as blind optimism and stubborn optimism or are they the same thing? Maybe we need both. Am I refusing to vote a sign of pessimism or a blind optimism that everything will turn out OK regardless? I would like to believe its the latter because I can't in all likelihood choose a lesser evil.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

If you have a choice between evils and you refuse to choose either, then you will only have yourself to blame when the greater evil wins.

[@phoebej7806]

Why would you refuse to physically vote when you already have voted to yourself? You know which of your options is less terrible, so why would you give up your say when you actually have an opinion? Are you doing that for the greater good, really?

[@gozieaf]

Changing climate means getting people out of poverty. Poor people will do anything (including damaging the environment) to get ahead.

[@dmitrizaslavski8480]

Non poor too. There is limit for ecological resources to use. So changing climate is removing people from the this world.

[@rodrigotorrescortes8133]

totally agree with you, i think first we need to change material conditions

[@dmitrizaslavski8480]

@Mike C I would disagree with you about second point. Reduce standart of success? So you only want to limit how well people can live? Change? May be. But how? I would not really like to live as people do in China, which follow something like hive community, where you live for community and do what community wants you to do. What is the goal then?

[@phoebej7806]

I’ve taken classes in environmental science and that’s an issue that comes up again and again. It comes into play really dramatically when it comes to deforestation especially... the ways to address it are really complex, too.

[@peet4921]

'' The goal: to build a better future by cutting greenhouse gas emissions in half by 2030, in the race to a zero-carbon world.'' Zero carbon ? Ask China how.

[@abcac2274]

Costa Rica unemployment is 24 percent and growing fast. Those are government numbers the real unemployment is 33 percent. Tourism has failed Costa Rica. Homelessness is up in Costa Rica. Debt and deficit are her family legacy.

[@carlomatismus8458]

... because we are definitely already fucked, but if we do nothing the human era might end for good?

[@TCRgalaxy]

Definitely already completely existentially hopelessly intractably insanely FCKD 🔥🌎🔥

[@wildedibles819]

Nice pep talk

[@patricesilva8004]

Smart woman and she is making sense but things are gone too far because the love of money n corrupt they are not doing what they are supposed to be. God is the only one that can do anything about it now .

[@godislove8740]

Made in the image and likeness. For it is a human number.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Pretty sure god doesn't want people to just lay down and give up. That would make exactly zero sense. The entire point of the bible and all of the teachings of literally *all* religions are to make us take responsibility for our actions. Although many religions have inserted little ways to get around those teachings. This is how the corrupt take control, by twisting the words and deeds of others.

[@patricesilva8004]

Your right people got to do their part.I thank you for the message I'm learning everyday of things I never knew I appreciate it.

[@AakashSharma-mo1jg]

For Donald Trump there is nothing like Climate change

[@AakashSharma-mo1jg]

@Lennart Labahn nobody care about your opinion

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@AakashSharma-mo1jg : Yea, and for donald trump he made the pandemic go away too, _like magic._

[@777hasdoneit]

Lady showing a triangle with her hands ?

[@cruZak89]

Illuminati confirmed or aspiring new German chancellor?

[@777hasdoneit]

@@cruZak89 lol

[@nullptr111]

I hope people will change their brain in a good way. But now, the situation is so difficult and a climate change is not so important problem now. Humanity want to kill the virus and for this victory we need to throw away y big sums of money. So we will find a solution in at least 10 years after pandemic p, exactly if we want. Nothing can be impossible! We need to change the direction in another way, desirable in good way for us.

[@godislove8740]

@Shane d I remember reading the NASA page. 97% of 33% that expressed an opinion. 3% No. 67% ???

[@Joke9972]

The effects of co 2 take 40 years to unveil, meaning : the effects we have today are the consequences of the carbon we emitted in the early '80's... and the effects are exponential in nature. I'm afraid we're too late.

[@geoffrobinson]

Are we pushing for liquid thorium reactors or nuclear energy? No. Let me know when you are and I'll start taking this topic seriously.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

What do you mean? Will you only take climate change seriously if people push for nuclear energy? If so, have I got some good news for you! Many people have correctly realised that nuclear energy is one of the only ways to realistically work against climate change. As it seems you are likewise enlightened, why don't you join us in pushing for nuclear energy, which has unfortunate associations and needs all the good PR it can get.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@@HippopotamusPencil : _"unfortunate associations"_ is what you call poisoning the planet for millions of years. So smart you guys are.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Firstly, it is not in any way poisoning the planet. Fuel is safely stored away from groundwater, newer technology can reuse a lot of the fuel, and newer fuel types (like OP mentions Thorium) will have different waste products that may be easier to deal with. Secondly, what I meant by "unfortunate associations" is of course the association with nuclear weapons. Thirdly, and most importantly, it would take a miracle to fully transition from coal, oil and gas to solar, wind and water. It is expensive, the technology isn't there yet, and it is heavily dependent on seasonal cycles (solar doesn't work when it's cloudy, wind doesn't work when it's calm, an water doesn't work when it's dry). The transition to nuclear is possible, plausible and practical. So even if it does poison the planet, you're left with whether you want to poison the planet by pumping CO2 into the air or hiding nuclear waste in sealed concrete caves. One is directly leading to climate change, the other has never been a problem. Your call.

[@HippopotamusPencil]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Since you annoyed me, I made a little list: *Climate change is poisoning the ocean* As CO2 is absorbed by the oceans they become more acidic, which eats away at coral reefs, at the shells of marine animals, and harms fish. Would you rather let fossil fuels poison the oceans, than consider nuclear power? *Climate change is burning down the forests* As temperatures have risen, the risk of forest fires has risen with it. Would you rather let fossil fuels burn down the forests than consider nuclear power? *Climate change is melting the snow* As temperatures rise, there will be less and less snow in the world. For me this means less hydroelectric power and tourism. Would you rather let fossil fuels destroy the snowy peaks than consider nuclear power? *Climate change is swallowing the coastline* As temperatures rise, and snow melts the oceans will rise. This will mean that vast areas which are currently heavily populated will be below sea level. Would you rather let fossil fuels swallow the coastline than consider nuclear power? There are hundreds of ways climate change is influencing our lives even as we speak, and the reason is that we're pumping the poison directly into the air. Why would you choose to directly poison the air over nuclear power?

[@christophergruenwald5054]

@@HippopotamusPencil we need nuclear or we have no future.

[@wooddawgz1504]

BS

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Yes, you're filled with it.

[@dogbite2018]

I respectfully dissagree with this man

[@godislove8740]

Weird title. Real climate science dot com

[@um_guysadieyt4051]

Any reality we are given is not set in stone me:aRe U sure about that?

[@phoebej7806]

I’m confused How can you back that up the claim that change either doesn’t happen or doesn’t result from any identifiable factors...? I have no idea how you can interpret that statement to make it true

[@um_guysadieyt4051]

@@phoebej7806 and i ...... idk!

[@phoebej7806]

@@um_guysadieyt4051 hahaha

[@suewright3345]

Hmmm....... anaother load of rubbish

[@kelliv2995]

Vote Blue 🌎

[@alfredobadkins1450]

*The Sky is Falling % The Sky is Falling* PROPAGANDA misleading information

[@LindaMcification]

No this message is right to the point.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Man made global warming is a fact. In the 70's the ferns and other plants under the redwoods were above my waist, but was starting to thin out by the 80's. By the 90's there were around half as many ferns and plants on the forest floor. Now the forest floor of the redwood park I grew up a few blocks away from is nothing but sticks and dirt, with a few plants here and there. In the 70's it used to rain here on average 28 days during the summer months alone. Now we are lucky to get that much rain in the entire year. Since they started keeping track in 1930, 17 of California's 20 biggest fires happened in the last 20 years. That was before this year. I now live a few miles away from what used to be California's largest fire ever at over 400,000 acres. But there is a fire burning about 60 miles north of me that was over 1 million acres now. 4,000,000 acres have burned in California this year alone, many people have lost their homes (some lost everything), some even lost their lives. But because we are all lefties who disagree with their precious gop, the trumpers don't care at all. All they care about is "owning the libs." Well, I have some interesting news for trumpers: Most of the people who live in this county are republicans, but because of misinformed people like them causing so much destruction by trusting trump and people like him, many of them are voting for Biden now. It wouldn't even matter to any group other than trumpers what sort of people lived here though. But trumpers want to murder (or at the very least: let die) anyone who disagrees with their hatred, refusal to accept responsibility for the freedom of others, and their murderous intentions. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/ nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html www.antarcticglaciers.org/2018/06/mass-balance-antarctic-ice-sheet-1992-2017/ www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ice-sheet/ phys.org/news/2018-12-greenland-ice-sheet-centuries.html www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/after-decades-of-ice-loss-antarctica-is-now-hemorrhaging-mass/562748/ www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/06/13/antarctic-ice-loss-has-tripled-in-a-decade-if-that-continues-we-are-in-serious-trouble/?.513e4487ea53 www.npr.org/2018/06/13/619543532/antarctica-has-lost-more-than-3-trillion-tons-of-ice-in-25-years www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/environment/climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/climate/antarctica-ice-melting-faster.html Here are just a couple more of the millions of articles that support this: www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/ climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/climate-change-is-real/ www.eartheclipse.com/climate-change/is-climate-change-real.html www.edf.org/climate/how-climate-change-plunders-planet/climate-facts en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change Do you trumpers care nothing even for the future of your own children? Is owning the libs really all that you care about?

[@varelasuazo4514]

Go Away

[@LindaMcification]

Sorry we are on our way to renewable energy and a healthier environment.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@Varela Suazo : I hate to break it to you, but you can't just wish problems away. This is where conservatives fail the hardest, and it's alarmingly common. Nearly every conservative I have ever met thinks they can just wish away big problems like this. Well, they're obviously all 100% wrong, just like you are 100% wrong thinking you can wish away people who actually care about everyone, and the irony is that they even care more about you, than you care about you.

[@TCRgalaxy]

Don’t worry your species is heading strait for the fossil record of oblivion...and every other form of life on this planet will be fkng ecstatic 🐝🍄🌎🍄🐝

[@varelasuazo4514]

Good Luck

[@mirafiori1990]

There is nothing of substance in this talk, no guidelines or solutions - very disappointing. Stop saying "we", let's turn our guilt-trips against big polluters, how 'bout that??

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

There's far far far Far more in this talk than you are presenting (literally nothing, zero, do you ever even try?). And for that reason, you are nothing more than a hypocrite.

[@phoebej7806]

It seemed to me she was advising us on how to act on info she assumed we knew. I too noticed she didn’t try to convince us much about how severe the crisis is or to do any specific thing to address it; she simply wanted to explain to us a mindset that would allow us to deal with it. This mindset was her dad’s, and allowed him to change the political situation in Costa Rica, and then allowed her to help nations agree to take the first step to reduce omissions. Not talking about what you wanted to hear doesn’t make her argument invalid, though I’m sure this woman could have answered your questions just fine had that been her goal

[@finanzalex]

I refuse to drink that communist Cooley.

[@pondholloworchards]

Why does she keep holding her hands like that I've seen that hand sign before in Freemasonry

[@bongobrandy6297]

Your conspiracy to conspire has expired.

[@pondholloworchards]

@@bongobrandy6297 nothing new under the sun

[@godislove8740]

It's certainly to convince you of womb neutrality.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Man made global warming is a fact. In the 70's the ferns and other plants under the redwoods were above my waist, but was starting to thin out by the 80's. By the 90's there were around half as many ferns and plants on the forest floor. Now the forest floor of the redwood park I grew up a few blocks away from is nothing but sticks and dirt, with a few plants here and there. In the 70's it used to rain here on average 28 days during the summer months alone. Now we are lucky to get that much rain in the entire year. Since they started keeping track in 1930, 17 of California's 20 biggest fires happened in the last 20 years. That was before this year. I now live a few miles away from what used to be California's largest fire ever at over 400,000 acres. But there is a fire burning about 60 miles north of me that was over 1 million acres now. 4,000,000 acres have burned in California this year alone, many people have lost their homes (some lost everything), some even lost their lives. But because we are all lefties who disagree with their precious gop, the trumpers don't care at all. All they care about is "owning the libs." Well, I have some interesting news for trumpers: Most of the people who live in this county are republicans, but because of misinformed people like them causing so much destruction by trusting trump and people like him, many of them are voting for Biden now. It wouldn't even matter to any group other than trumpers what sort of people lived here though. But trumpers want to murder (or at the very least: let die) anyone who disagrees with their hatred, refusal to accept responsibility for the freedom of others, and their murderous intentions. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/ nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html www.antarcticglaciers.org/2018/06/mass-balance-antarctic-ice-sheet-1992-2017/ www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ice-sheet/ phys.org/news/2018-12-greenland-ice-sheet-centuries.html www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/after-decades-of-ice-loss-antarctica-is-now-hemorrhaging-mass/562748/ www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/06/13/antarctic-ice-loss-has-tripled-in-a-decade-if-that-continues-we-are-in-serious-trouble/?.513e4487ea53 www.npr.org/2018/06/13/619543532/antarctica-has-lost-more-than-3-trillion-tons-of-ice-in-25-years www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/environment/climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/climate/antarctica-ice-melting-faster.html Here are just a couple more of the millions of articles that support this: www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/ climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/climate-change-is-real/ www.eartheclipse.com/climate-change/is-climate-change-real.html www.edf.org/climate/how-climate-change-plunders-planet/climate-facts en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change Do you trumpers care nothing even for the future of your own children? Is owning the libs really all that you care about?

[@amachtinger]

Geez, what a scam.

[@TCRgalaxy]

Hot House Earth and humans becoming a smear in the fossil record...WASF 🔥🔥🌎🔥🔥

[@amachtinger]

@@TCRgalaxy Nobody denies the earth has warmed. What's never been proven is the cause and you and all of your acolites act as if it's proven science. I'll stay in my lane, but perhaps you should read something other than California propaganda.

[@zydian_]

So old, so naïve. Feel free to disagree. Then scroll the comment section and think what more then half of these users would be like if they had a position in power where high amounts of money were at stake.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Denial of reality is not bad as a simple definition of _naive._ Man made global warming is a fact. In the 70's the ferns and other plants under the redwoods were above my waist, but was starting to thin out by the 80's. By the 90's there were around half as many ferns and plants on the forest floor. Now the forest floor of the redwood park I grew up a few blocks away from is nothing but sticks and dirt, with a few plants here and there. In the 70's it used to rain here on average 28 days during the summer months alone. Now we are lucky to get that much rain in the entire year. Since they started keeping track in 1930, 17 of California's 20 biggest fires happened in the last 20 years. That was before this year. I now live a few miles away from what used to be California's largest fire ever at over 400,000 acres. But there is a fire burning about 60 miles north of me that was over 1 million acres now. 4,000,000 acres have burned in California this year alone, many people have lost their homes (some lost everything), some even lost their lives. But because we are all lefties who disagree with their precious gop, the trumpers don't care at all. All they care about is "owning the libs." Well, I have some interesting news for trumpers: Most of the people who live in this county are republicans, but because of misinformed people like them causing so much destruction by trusting trump and people like him, many of them are voting for Biden now. It wouldn't even matter to any group other than trumpers what sort of people lived here though. But trumpers want to murder (or at the very least: let die) anyone who disagrees with their hatred, refusal to accept responsibility for the freedom of others, and their murderous intentions. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/ nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html www.antarcticglaciers.org/2018/06/mass-balance-antarctic-ice-sheet-1992-2017/ www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ice-sheet/ phys.org/news/2018-12-greenland-ice-sheet-centuries.html www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/after-decades-of-ice-loss-antarctica-is-now-hemorrhaging-mass/562748/ www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/06/13/antarctic-ice-loss-has-tripled-in-a-decade-if-that-continues-we-are-in-serious-trouble/?.513e4487ea53 www.npr.org/2018/06/13/619543532/antarctica-has-lost-more-than-3-trillion-tons-of-ice-in-25-years www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/environment/climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/climate/antarctica-ice-melting-faster.html Here are just a couple more of the millions of articles that support this: www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/ climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/climate-change-is-real/ www.eartheclipse.com/climate-change/is-climate-change-real.html www.edf.org/climate/how-climate-change-plunders-planet/climate-facts en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change Do you trumpers care nothing even for the future of your own children? Is owning the libs really all that you care about?

[@bravojr]

Stubborn constant complaining.

[@LindaMcification]

We're working towards a healthier future. Come join us.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@ bravojr : Apparently you are so lacking in self-awareness, you're not even aware that you are complaining about others complaining. How does crying about someone else crying not make you far far worse, on top of being such a blatant hypocrite?

[@brianmarshall3931]

Wasn't that long ago "people" were predicting another ice age... 40 years ago? What happened to that prediction? You can be as optimistic as you like - until an asteroid or meteor shows up. Or a major sunspot. Geologic history shows that there has been "climate change" from one extreme to another throughout the entire existence of the planet. (Before humanity existed)

[@brianmarshall3931]

@Mike C Fact is - minority or not - they were accredited scientists... AND it was on the front pages of MSM. All that it really takes for a minority to become a majority these days is a bit of public relations & propaganda. Climate can change by something as simple as a major volcanic eruption... and I'm sure that has happened over the millennia... Yes, I agree that humans are the scourge of the planet - but at the moment there are other priorities for survival. A good start would be cleaning up the food supply, reducing rampant obesity, reducing pesticide & Roundup use - NOT the AOC dreams of removing airplanes and building some sort of underwater train to get to Hawaii! Choose your battles and the hill you want to die on. In other words - "sweep your own porch first".

[@brianmarshall3931]

@Mike C Hmmm... I've been watching all of this for over 6 decades - pretty sure I won't be around for it either :(

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Not one sensible person has ever said that climate change has not been happening for the entire time the Earth has existed. You're simply too dense to understand that people are talking about *Man Made Climate Change.* There, now someone has spelled it out for you and you have exactly *zero* excuse to be so dense now. You're welcome. Man made global warming is a fact. In the 70's the ferns and other plants under the redwoods were above my waist, but was starting to thin out by the 80's. By the 90's there were around half as many ferns and plants on the forest floor. Now the forest floor of the redwood park I grew up a few blocks away from is nothing but sticks and dirt, with a few plants here and there. In the 70's it used to rain here on average 28 days during the summer months alone. Now we are lucky to get that much rain in the entire year. Since they started keeping track in 1930, 17 of California's 20 biggest fires happened in the last 20 years. That was before this year. I now live a few miles away from what used to be California's largest fire ever at over 400,000 acres. But there is a fire burning about 60 miles north of me that was over 1 million acres now. 4,000,000 acres have burned in California this year alone, many people have lost their homes (some lost everything), some even lost their lives. But because we are all lefties who disagree with their precious gop, the trumpers don't care at all. All they care about is "owning the libs." Well, I have some interesting news for trumpers: Most of the people who live in this county are republicans, but because of misinformed people like them causing so much destruction by trusting trump and people like him, many of them are voting for Biden now. It wouldn't even matter to any group other than trumpers what sort of people lived here though. But trumpers want to murder (or at the very least: let die) anyone who disagrees with their hatred, refusal to accept responsibility for the freedom of others, and their murderous intentions. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/ nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html www.antarcticglaciers.org/2018/06/mass-balance-antarctic-ice-sheet-1992-2017/ www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ice-sheet/ phys.org/news/2018-12-greenland-ice-sheet-centuries.html www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/after-decades-of-ice-loss-antarctica-is-now-hemorrhaging-mass/562748/ www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/06/13/antarctic-ice-loss-has-tripled-in-a-decade-if-that-continues-we-are-in-serious-trouble/?.513e4487ea53 www.npr.org/2018/06/13/619543532/antarctica-has-lost-more-than-3-trillion-tons-of-ice-in-25-years www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/environment/climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/climate/antarctica-ice-melting-faster.html Here are just a couple more of the millions of articles that support this: www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/ climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/climate-change-is-real/ www.eartheclipse.com/climate-change/is-climate-change-real.html www.edf.org/climate/how-climate-change-plunders-planet/climate-facts en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change Do you trumpers care nothing even for the future of your own children? Is owning the libs really all that you care about?

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@Mike C : Actually, we are supposed to be going into a cooling off period, likely an oncoming ice age. If you had any real source for the opposite occurring, you would have gladly posted it, since 98% percent of *all* climate scientists say the exact opposite. But Brian there utterly failed to realize his own post is actually evidence *for* man made climate change. But don't expect people who *intentionally live in denial of facts* to ever be able to think straight. It's my guess you're one of the "smart" conservatives who is simply lying to protect your political party. Not really that smart, but at least not so stupid you post something that proves you are wrong. Still, you have a long ways to go before attaining even a miniscule amount of wisdom.

[@brianmarshall3931]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Ummm... I happen to be a Libertarian, have NO horse in the race... and politics have nothing to do with anything I wrote?

[@luizalmeida3923]

What linda of Agenda are you following

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Man made global warming is a fact. In the 70's the ferns and other plants under the redwoods were above my waist, but was starting to thin out by the 80's. By the 90's there were around half as many ferns and plants on the forest floor. Now the forest floor of the redwood park I grew up a few blocks away from is nothing but sticks and dirt, with a few plants here and there. In the 70's it used to rain here on average 28 days during the summer months alone. Now we are lucky to get that much rain in the entire year. Since they started keeping track in 1930, 17 of California's 20 biggest fires happened in the last 20 years. That was before this year. I now live a few miles away from what used to be California's largest fire ever at over 400,000 acres. But there is a fire burning about 60 miles north of me that was over 1 million acres now. 4,000,000 acres have burned in California this year alone, many people have lost their homes (some lost everything), some even lost their lives. But because we are all lefties who disagree with their precious gop, the trumpers don't care at all. All they care about is "owning the libs." Well, I have some interesting news for trumpers: Most of the people who live in this county are republicans, but because of misinformed people like them causing so much destruction by trusting trump and people like him, many of them are voting for Biden now. It wouldn't even matter to any group other than trumpers what sort of people lived here though. But trumpers want to murder (or at the very least: let die) anyone who disagrees with their hatred, refusal to accept responsibility for the freedom of others, and their murderous intentions. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/ nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html www.antarcticglaciers.org/2018/06/mass-balance-antarctic-ice-sheet-1992-2017/ www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ice-sheet/ phys.org/news/2018-12-greenland-ice-sheet-centuries.html www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/after-decades-of-ice-loss-antarctica-is-now-hemorrhaging-mass/562748/ www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/06/13/antarctic-ice-loss-has-tripled-in-a-decade-if-that-continues-we-are-in-serious-trouble/?.513e4487ea53 www.npr.org/2018/06/13/619543532/antarctica-has-lost-more-than-3-trillion-tons-of-ice-in-25-years www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/environment/climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/climate/antarctica-ice-melting-faster.html Here are just a couple more of the millions of articles that support this: www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/ climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/climate-change-is-real/ www.eartheclipse.com/climate-change/is-climate-change-real.html www.edf.org/climate/how-climate-change-plunders-planet/climate-facts en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change Do you trumpers care nothing even for the future of your own children? Is owning the libs really all that you care about?

[@blahbleh5671]

What's the point of more of these pointless platitudes we've all heard a hundred times already.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Still trying to help the wantonly blind see. We sure wish this wasn't the case of course, but sadly it is. So.. Man made global warming is a fact. In the 70's the ferns and other plants under the redwoods were above my waist, but was starting to thin out by the 80's. By the 90's there were around half as many ferns and plants on the forest floor. Now the forest floor of the redwood park I grew up a few blocks away from is nothing but sticks and dirt, with a few plants here and there. In the 70's it used to rain here on average 28 days during the summer months alone. Now we are lucky to get that much rain in the entire year. Since they started keeping track in 1930, 17 of California's 20 biggest fires happened in the last 20 years. That was before this year. I now live a few miles away from what used to be California's largest fire ever at over 400,000 acres. But there is a fire burning about 60 miles north of me that was over 1 million acres now. 4,000,000 acres have burned in California this year alone, many people have lost their homes (some lost everything), some even lost their lives. But because we are all lefties who disagree with their precious gop, the trumpers don't care at all. All they care about is "owning the libs." Well, I have some interesting news for trumpers: Most of the people who live in this county are republicans, but because of misinformed people like them causing so much destruction by trusting trump and people like him, many of them are voting for Biden now. It wouldn't even matter to any group other than trumpers what sort of people lived here though. But trumpers want to murder (or at the very least: let die) anyone who disagrees with their hatred, refusal to accept responsibility for the freedom of others, and their murderous intentions. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/ nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html www.antarcticglaciers.org/2018/06/mass-balance-antarctic-ice-sheet-1992-2017/ www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ice-sheet/ phys.org/news/2018-12-greenland-ice-sheet-centuries.html www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/after-decades-of-ice-loss-antarctica-is-now-hemorrhaging-mass/562748/ www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/06/13/antarctic-ice-loss-has-tripled-in-a-decade-if-that-continues-we-are-in-serious-trouble/?.513e4487ea53 www.npr.org/2018/06/13/619543532/antarctica-has-lost-more-than-3-trillion-tons-of-ice-in-25-years www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/environment/climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise www.nytimes.com/2018/06/13/climate/antarctica-ice-melting-faster.html Here are just a couple more of the millions of articles that support this: www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/ climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/climate-change-is-real/ www.eartheclipse.com/climate-change/is-climate-change-real.html www.edf.org/climate/how-climate-change-plunders-planet/climate-facts en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change Do you trumpers care nothing even for the future of your own children? Is owning the libs really all that you care about?

[@blahbleh5671]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Funny how you assume I deny climate change and support trump, neither of which are true. Maybe you should check your assumptions before running off on a silly little rant.

[@TCRgalaxy]

WASF