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[@FlowerItzel18]

she didn’t want him to think that she was overly protective? that’s literally the one thing you want strangers around your children to think about you, that you will fight for your children and you won’t let anyone hurt them.

[@belladonna5904]

I think she was hoping Don would still stick around her and give her spending money since he was so into her kids. She just didn't plan on him disappearing with her.

[@tuxedomask7071]

@@belladonna5904 Yeah, after he showed her kinky shoes for his daughter and went to the dressing room with her, it was definitely clear to the mother that she was taking a risk. And "Virgin Islands" and no wife showing up. WHo knows what else he said to her that she did not mention. She wanted him to like her so that he would buy her something too, so she couldn't be critical about his creepy behaviour towards her children. And her saying to the operator that she herself had been raped... It's the kind of mother who doesn't actually want her children to have it easier than she has had it herself, to show them how ugly the world is and what it's been like, rather than shelter them from danger. And then oops, it escalated faster than she had expected.

[@tuxedomask7071]

She wanted him to like her so that his wallet would stay open some more and so she didn't mind the kinky remarks he had made about her daughter and him going to the dressing room alone with her. Had she been critical about it, he might have looked for another family to harass. So she took the risk and it escalated right away. She probably thought she could parade her kids in front of him some more and get more money for it. "Virgin Islands"... when you hear that, sitting in a white van with a pushy man whose wife isn't showing up.... Aaaall this time, after the strange car ride, she wants him to notice how little she is watching out, so that he gets more comfortable and more cash flows. She just probably didn't think that he would be mad enough to commit a crime right away. But she knew what he had on his mind for sure.

[@FreeDrugz]

@@tuxedomask7071 soooooooooo repulsive on all accounts. they both deserve hell

[@duchessofhazjack4878]

She was vulnerable and desperate for money. I know how it is as a single mum. But I'd guard my kids with everything I had against a dodgy stranger. Mums should have an instinct about these people. HE KNEW she didn't because she was "slow", or mentally challenged or however you want to put it.

[@kaamkic]

For him to sit there and express his fears of dying brutally and violently in prison, when that’s exactly what he did to an 8 year old girl is just hard to process. Wow.

[@WhitneyDahlin]

Yep the mother deserves the same. She is a disgrace and we NEED start equally charging parents when an adult they FORCE their kid to be around harms the child. The mother is just as much of a monster. I am horrified to my core

[@Jokes_on_D]

That got me so enraged! To believe he deserves mercy or a peaceful death shows he's really insane. Toss him in general pop with a sign around his neck

[@ilonas7760]

Lowest form of humanity! Glad prisons have their own rules.

[@vortex162]

That's what Karma is all about experiencing what the person felt it was done to what ever it may be!

[@quintaharvey8804]

He has a lot of nerve. Poor child suffered at his hands, and he is worried about the other inmates killing him.

[@k.mariiie]

An older man walked up to me and my son in the store one time and asked how old he was and what my son's name was, all I said was "oh he's 2 months" and he proceeded to then reach and rub my son's foot and I immediately smacked his hand away. He walked away awkwardly. Part of me thought after "that was an old man... what if he was harmless? I might have hurt his feelings.." But in the moment the mother in me could not give a fuck tbh. Weirdos are out there. Protect ours and others babies at ALL costs.

[@cjvaye99]

ew you did the right thing...what a freak

[@IRgEEK]

@@cjvaye99 please. Just an old dude trying to be nice. When I was growing up in the 70s, it was normal for strangers to be nice to children. Hold their hand and help them find their mom in the store, give them a quarter for the tempting coin machines at the supermarket with gum and little toys, and take a genuine interest in talking to parents about their kids and (God forbid) maybe even patting them on the head with absolutely no ill intentions. Just kindness to others. Unfortunately these days no one trusts or even speaks to people they don't know. However, they might pull out their phones and film them as they are brutalized and not lift a finger and that's honestly a shame. I'd gladly take the days when just talking to someone else's child didn't automatically get you branded as a 'freak'.

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

His dick probably didn't even work anymore too

[@AccordingToWillow]

“i was smoking crack with prostitutes” as an alibi provided some much needed levity in an otherwise horrific story

[@500ccRabbit]

The idea is that he admits to something unflattering so it sounds more plausible

[@happyandstuff]

Nothing this trash says offers anything of use. There really is not any levity that fits in this story.

[@SorenPenrose]

@@happyandstuffI laughed. It caught me off guard.

[@SorenPenrose]

Sir, we’re looking into a missing girl spotted in this area near that swamp over yonder…say why are you we- _-cocaine and hookers!_ …okay, and I’m not saying your heart can’t handle it at this age, but would you be willing to answer a few questions?

[@lexyshannon9428]

#1 Rule to Avoid Letting Yourself be Manipulated: You don't need to care what a stranger thinks of you. You don't need to care if they say your response is rude. They don't matter and they don't need to matter. NEVER let that be a reason to put yourself or others in danger. NEVER. Safety and caution always matters more than someone else's opinion. Please don't make that mistake of believing otherwise.

[@awwiloveyoutooegg9205]

As us fans of MFM like to say, "Fuck Politeness!!!"

[@steelhurricane4041]

That's so true. It's hard for people to be firm and rude if necessary. Good advice to keep in mind.

[@lexyshannon9428]

@@awwiloveyoutooegg9205 absolutely

[@lexyshannon9428]

@@steelhurricane4041 100%

[@lexyshannon9428]

@picklepicklegobblegobble6257 well, that would depend on the situation. In this case, I'm referring to using this method as a form of protection against manipulative criticism rather than an a way to shield oneself from valid criticism. If you think about it, there's a big difference to be seen. In the case of this video, the man was using seemingly true and valid responses as a way to make the mother question whether her unease was really warranted. The fear of being the unreasonable one in the situation despite her gut instinct was what ultimately led to the death of her own daughter. Now, toxic masculinity can vary in how it's presented, but ultimately the toxic aspect would be using it for self gain with far less regard for the other person's wellbeing. This could be using that mindset in order to validate oneself by establishing a sense of power through behavior and action that could be associated with typical "male" traits. Ultimately, this can really apply to any toxic person regardless of gender or sex. However, the key difference is the confidence in ones intent. With the toxic masculinity example, the confidence would lie mostly in the intent to establish power, control, or dominance in a situation. In the protective example, the confidence would lie in the intent to protect onesself and/or others in a situation. Based on the objective/intent, lack of confidence could be either good or bad. For toxic masculinity, a lack of confidence could mean that the person in question may still have an inate sense of empathy, awareness, and morale, which would suggest that they can still be reasoned with, and that would be good. For protection, a lack of confidence could mean the disregard of key warning signs in a potentially dangerous situation, which may leave someone vulnerable, and that would be bad. Hopefully that makes sense!

[@leigha2814]

It is absolutely insane that an amber alert wasn't issued. All of the criteria were met. What's the point of the program if it isn't used to save lives like cherish's?

[@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstubwxyz123]

Amber alerts have saved countless lives

[@SamIAmB]

Unfortunately, based on witness statements I've heard in other coverage...I really do not think it would have helped. I think he got her isolated pretty damn quick. My understanding is a church parking lot was a place the van was spotted, I think that's right about where he brutalized her. I should also add that this happened in 2013 well before emergency alerts on cell phones were a thing, ntm smart phones were not ubiquitous just yet. So the most visibility would have happened on the freeway. Given today's tech, they may have utilized that. But they absolutely should have exhausted every resource they could for even just a chance of retrieving her unharmed (or at least alive) What the fuck does it cost the department to alert the public that a child is missing and in danger. It's kindof mind blowing

[@TahtahmesDiary]

I really think they might have caught him, or potentially in the act if they had. It’s disappointing that they waited so many hours because he was found so soon after it was issued.

[@inyrui]

@@SamIAmB you're so wrong though lmao. In 2013 the iPhone 5 was already out. Smart phones were extremely widespread. And Amber Alerts started being used on cell phones in 2012

[@ScaredyGinge]

Something I've always wondered as well.

[@judyhorstmann6332]

Thankfully her 2 youngest children were adopted by their Aunt in Australia.They're living happy, well adjusted lives. Her oldest daughter, whom she abandoned, is living there as well. I pray they're able to have regular contact as a family. So sad Cherish begged her grandmother in Australia to come live with her. She knew she had to get away from her Mom.

[@Ashethetics]

Cherish was ONE day away from escaping all of it and having a better life with her dad. All Raine had to do was keep her safe for one more night. Yes, this guy was pure evil, but you will never get rid of sex offenders like him in society, the only thing you can do is protect your kids from going with any strangers, which she failed at.

[@VideoKilledTheYouTubeStar]

How many kids did this slag actually have jfc?

[@weeshirley5934]

@VideoKilledTheKZbinStar You are d!sgusting. Hopefully you gain some life experience and gain some empathy - shame on you!!

[@mrbizznessnobizzness8707]

​@@Ashethetics myself as parent would never let my child go anywhere with a random man nor would my wife. I understand being down on your luck financially but Jesus. I forgot how horrible this case was and how irresponsible the mother is. I never understood why people who hurt children are let out of jail. There's no rehabilitation with them.

[@sol-leks6122]

I hope they are having a good life

[@cam4short]

The irony of her fighting Cherish's father for custody all of those years, just to willingly give her away to a stranger who promised her a gift card. She should be arrrested too, for life.

[@BD-1-And-Only]

I agree! The family court system is so freaking sexist against men!

[@TheBdomijan]

YES!!!!!!

[@yurgenlevi7980]

Yep! She should be in jail, rotting. Nobody on this planet will miss her

[@BOFAMET]

@@BD-1-And-Only Nope, that's a common myth. Men actually get custody the MAJORITY of the time in the court system when they actually seek custody. It's just that most men don't actually seek custody. You can look it up.

[@R.Oates7902]

The mother CLAIMED she thought they would be walking to the McDonald's IN THE STORE. I would never allow some guy to walk off with my little girl! Even if I know them. The world is a scary place now! RIP Cherish 💐

[@OrangesodaTR]

If you're wondering why he's whispering in that prison interview, it's not for legal reasons. It's because he knows the other inmates would beat the bricks off him if they heard half of what he was talking about, also why he keeps looking over his shoulder.

[@T-DOGG.]

Okay thank you I was wondering

[@honeyypainn]

I was wondering why he talks normal and then he starts whispering about shit but your answer makes perfect sense and you are 100% correct! They should release him into gen pop with a sign on his shirt stating what he did. Eye for an eye 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@kerrieleidig]

Yup. Then when the guard pops up he gets loud. I always know what is being said when CC says "inaudible" & see errors in the captions, I wish people would hire me to do their captions! Lol it's interesting he switched to ASL spelling for the "t-e-r-m" in "terminology", I wonder if he learned that in jail or before...

[@MijoShrek]

Yup, POS was just saying how scared he was to his mommy about how high-profile his case was. So everyone is going to know who he is. With a blaring spotlight protruding from hi back like a bat signal. If they don't put him in constant maximum segregation from the rest of inmate population. And even then, it's a mystery really how deviants like him end up being brutalized in there. As If guards just look the other way.

[@missbearlockholmes]

I hope they found out, anyway.

[@Seaglassandsage]

A strange man offers to buy your little daughter adult high heeled shoes…and you then let them walk off together. There were about 500 red flags this woman ignored. She was definitely criminally negligent. Love your channel!

[@gatubela_nay]

I feel like she should've been convicted also of child neglect sheesh.

[@DarkKoffee]

She should have been charged too

[@0The_Farlander0]

She's a woman with a lot of problems and a possible mental defect and lost her daughter. Be a human being instead of a stone for once

[@kissarococo2459]

She absolutely was selling her daughter.

[@TheQueenOfSheba]

@@kissarococo2459 she wasn’t doing that. She was just stupid. He’s the monster that did this. Idk why I don’t see folks in the comments being mad at him…

[@niilsaa]

Cherish was failed by *everybody* who was supposed to protect her, and it’s infuriating. I’ve read a lot about Cherish - but witnessing that human epitome of diarrhoea who terrorised and murdered her invoked a new level of rage within me. Rest in Peace, sweet girl - you deserved so much better from the world.

[@Come_On_Try_To_Shut_Me_Up]

Not her father. He tried. Apart from that, I totally agree

[@katy4714]

After hearing her mom's past idk how to feel about her testimony. It's hard to feel bad for her but she lost her daughter in a horrific way.

[@AdelinePerryman]

Everyone but daddy. Daddy kept fighting I wish he'd sue cherish mom I know she don't have shit but should sue the Florida courts on top.

[@BOFAMET]

@@Come_On_Try_To_Shut_Me_Up Her dad was literally beating her wtf are you talking about lmao

[@Nisha_Chantel]

My sister’s ex husband used to criticize her for not letting anyone except me, my mom, his mom, and my dad be alone with their kids. She literally doesn’t trust anyone else. You really have to be careful with who you leave your kids with even “friends” but especially strangers

[@tythecakelord445]

yeah... people are sick

[@evinrock5717]

I have a 3 year old daughter (in July) and I became a father at 20. Nobody except her mother, my parents and her parents and our grandparents are alone with my child. There are sick evil people in this world and it’s mine and her mothers job to guard and protect her with our lives. This case shocked me as a 12 year old boy and it shocks me a hundred times worse after having a child. There’s no way I’d ever even let her round the corner with a stranger let alone a DRESSING ROOM and 30 mins to get food. This is insane negligence and I feel so awful for Cherish, the person who’s sole responsibility it is to keep her safe let her down in the most shocking way. Your sister is a good mom and we need more parents like her. Also PSA the people who drop their kids off to a sport or music lessons and leave for 2 hours are crazy as well. MY CHILD does not leave my line of vision.

[@kiiwiifuzzzz]

The speech you gave about not being afraid to say no or look rude, or BE rude, made me so so glad that ppl are taking about these things as factually as possible so that nothing can be misconstrued in the next generation of kids can be much much safer than mine was... I was so afraid of looking rude and it made me feel so many more negative ways about myself then looking rude for a second, and standing up for myself would have.

[@beckee6282]

No offence but I’ll never understand this mindset. If someone is violating you or making you uncomfortable they have already shown you how they view you. Why in the world would you care about being “rude” to someone who has disrespected you from the start? I couldn’t care less what a creep thinks of me and I don’t get how anyone could care. I’ll scream and curse at anyone, no matter where I am, if they think they can attempt to violate or assault me

[@kiiwiifuzzzz]

@@beckee6282 I truly wish I was this way growing up. For some reason, the people who were rude to me were like the main friend group in school. The cool kids, or even just people I didn't know, and wanted so badly to be seen as 'nice' or at least not confrontational and therefore perhaps seen as 'out of control' and not cool lol looking back it's obviously embarrassing and the Wrong way to look at things, and gave me a horrible, empty sense of self respect. I wish that someone had cared and payed enough attention to me to tell me to BE RUDE when you feel pressured or uncomfortable. I just had a lost sense of self in general and have since grown out of this phase and now have no problem standing up for myself. But I wish. I wish so badly that I knew that standing up for myself would just protect me. And that protecting myself was so important. Sorry for the rant lol I just appreciated what Dreading said

[@chocomelo454]

​@@beckee6282 Honestly I feel confused on it too. From my understanding it comes from how women are taught to always be polite, yeah? And then they have a man harassing her and she keeps trying to be polite. Then you hear about men losing their temper because a woman denied him something she doesn't owe him, like a relationship or sex, and about how he killed her, and you have a cycle of people believing if you just smile and nod you'll be okay. Y'know, girls get taught to just be polite and they'll be safe! But it doesn't work. It never works. No matter what they do, someone who means them harm will still do that harm. It's awful.

[@lilyfield2450]

@@chocomelo454 spot on

[@tiffknox6158]

“Fuck Politeness” is a phrase I learned on the MFM Podcast. Girls are taught to be nice and polite and to mind our manners. We have to UNtrain ourselves to stay safe. So what if you hurt stranger’s feelings? So what if you seem paranoid? So what if you are rude? Is it worth risking your life making sure strangers don’t get their feelings hurt?

[@HumanityIsBroken]

The fact the medical examiner on the stand had to ask the judge and court for a break and on the verge of tears while having to describe Cherish's injuries and how they were sustained, made it crystal clear that Donald 10000000000000x's is worthy of the death penalty. Medical Examiners see some God awful things but still manage to compose themselves and do their job, the fact she broke down on the stand horrified me. What the hell did this monster do to this beautiful baby to make a professional, seasoned medical examiner start to cry....

[@BrokenBb]

I agree he deserves the worst for what he did But he wanted death row, so death row isn't what he deserves. He deserves nothing he wants. If he's so afraid of prison, where they treat child agressors as they should be treated, then I think there's where he should be.

[@Ilovetruecrime545]

I listened to the medical examiner’s full testimony… so sickening. It is unbelievable that people like this monster are alive and enjoy torturing children…

[@HumanityIsBroken]

@@Ilovetruecrime545 It was really hard to listen to her testimony. Absolutely horrific what happened to that sweet baby. :(

[@wordsleuth992]

where did you see this coverage?

[@HumanityIsBroken]

@@wordsleuth992 You can search for it on KZbin, I believe if you type in "Cherish Perrywinkle Medical Examiner" you should hopefully come across just specifically that portion of the trial. It is fairly long and I also believe the full trial is available on KZbin as well. Includes testimony from her mother, the police officers, medical examiner, previous child (now adult) victim of Donald. Just as a warning, it is pretty upsetting and very graphic description that the medical examiner gets into and it really has the potential to cause a lot of listeners to become disturbed and very upset. Hope that helps!

[@AthenaOwl_]

Can we also not forget that the kids had not eaten all day ?!?! I’ve seen a lot of comments about the mother essentially selling her kids for the money. What if they discussed waiting until close for everything to go down? There’s no way she didn’t notice it getting dark and late out; that the kids might need to sleep, especially Cherish before her flight the next day. I know this case is old, but I watched the video again. The fact that her surviving children call out neglect also speaks volumes. She should also be held criminally responsible for the neglect. No loving mother would EVER in a million years let a stranger go into a changing room alone with their little girl, or even little boy. They wouldn’t even let the stranger have the opportunity to “hang out” more than a few seconds. I have a little one; people stop me to say he’s cute and to chat briefly about how old he is. But it lasts 60 seconds, if that, and it’s all in a passing moment. I’d never ever let anyone talk to me for more than 90 seconds without walking towards the registers and close to some help. HELL NO; you get the eff away from me and my child; idc how “nice” you seem. If you’re really nice, you’ll know moms don’t want to be bothered too much when their hands are full and their hearts are already brimming with worry for their little ones.

[@devon9612]

This

[@jadeangel000078]

This is just... utterly heartbreaking. I hope the other inmates see or hear about this and he gets broomstick visits for the rest of his days.

[@zombiepirate23]

He won't sadly. A lot of these pervs live great lives in there and never get messed with

[@cjvaye99]

broomstick??? how about a cactus? 🌵🌵🌵

[@i-work-at-enron]

They hate child rapists. He won't even make it to the chair.

[@gottistmiregal9587]

i am worried he enjoys that :'c

[@The3xblessed]

Isn't it amazing this man is terrified of all of the things happening to him that he did to her. He deserves everything he gets and I hope it's painful and I hope it takes a long time

[@PixelatedFaerie]

I hope he gets to experience in prison what he did to that little girl.

[@tanyal.1923]

The fact he just fears for himself and lacks empathy for that little girl and he did all those things to her makes him a coward. I hope he experiences it all in prison. Eye for an eye. Makes me so sick this world, the people that live here are so toxic. I wouldn't blame God if he wiped us all out. As long as I make it to Heaven🙏 . I put my trust in God.

[@allistertenpenny6871]

Dude is clearly not in his right mind while sobber, and based off what is stated in the video he is a junkie. Hoping that he experiences everything he did to that little girl is kind of empty. Idk if that makes sense. I guess what I'm saying is he has already been fucked up, him getting further fucked up is meaningless

[@gurutruecrimeguru1405]

It's unlike that anyone is going to want to do that.

[@jpatton5567]

I'm at that part now. The irony is insane, he's literally terrified of exactly what he did to her happening to him

[@lula2733]

52:24 “I thought I taught them everything about stranger danger” she says, after getting herself and her daughters into a stranger’s car and leaving her daughter alone with the man she’d met 3 hours earlier. How do you expect a child to act on “Stranger danger” rules when their own mother is doing textbook “what not to do” things?

[@stacitowery4461]

Not just a stranger’s car, a stranger’s stereotypical rape van.

[@lindsaymiller1406]

Thank you! This was my immediate thought upon hearing her say this! What is she even talking about! She set the tone for her girls to trust this man in the first place. Absolutely unreal.

[@emsg24]

She probably doesn’t realize it in that moment, but that line literally blames her own daughter for the circumstances of her own death even though she LET HER walk alone with a strange man.

[@stacitowery4461]

@@emsg24 fortunately the two younger girls have been taken from the mother.

[@delorasledge2492]

"Wait for me at the gate" made me gasp. How about- I'm sorry, I failed you- 😔 .

[@Oohkamitama]

Predators don’t usually mess with protective parents who have their guard up around strangers. Predators target vulnerable parents who may be showing signs of tiredness and seem to be struggling. I came across this video after coming across a short talking about this case for a bit. I like getting more information and man, Cherish was not protected like she should have been.

[@user-ut7wz7mh2r]

This exactly. There was an interview done with predators in a prison and the guys were all saying what they looked for in potential targets and it was always know dad, lax parenting, broken homes

[@strawberryplains5029]

Looks like the original recommendation to give custody to the father was correct. Poor angel suffered for poor judgement from the court and the mother.

[@SkcreamStream]

So sad that she was so close to being on a plane to safety. One day made such a difference. Rest In Peace Cherish.

[@dopesickclothing8390]

Think about how devastated the father was afraid finally getting to finally be a father to his daughter after all these years and she gets r and m. I pray for her father. Prayers for the mother too but comeon lady

[@TeachMeLordGod]

Amen. Rest in peace dear sister, be at peace with Christ ❤️‍🩹

[@mangohaeppchen3447]

Perhaps I’m cynical (I’m a lawyer), but I think Cherish’s imminent departure to see her father was a factor here. Rayne knew he was a creep.

[@WillowAnne0]

Listening to this mother say she let a strange man take her daughter into the dressing room twice so she could look at items, absolutely makes me sick. You should want people to think you are overprotective of your children. I’m so sad for Cherish. ❤

[@MorganVsTheInternet]

I wouldn't trust ANY stranger, regardless of gender. He'll! I wouldn't even trust friends or nonprimary family members.

[@a.walters123]

This man is 100 liable for what happened, but this sweet girl’s mother failed her in every aspect. I understand, poverty makes you desperate. But a mother should never ever exploit her child to feed that child.

[@luciborquez3287]

I’m a crazy psycho overprotective mama bear with my kids. I trust no one!!

[@brittneybelgrove9993]

Expecially when she says she was raped before. cmon

[@LuckyCharms23]

My mom wouldn't even let me change anywhere near my brother. And vice versa. Wtf. We're only 1yr apart. The boundaries my mom set by the time I was 3 have saved me. RAYNE was a failure to those kids.

[@N3Rd32]

Good job to the 911 operator. She seemed concerned and real. Often in these calls we hear them sounding less than expected. It was nice to hear.

[@AlaFrigginBama]

She sounded much more concerned that Rayne. Rayne disgusts me.

[@ricardothehacker3200]

They probably sound unenthusiastic because they get these calls all the time. Same way a doctor is less bothered by blood and gore.

[@thekatalexander]

Thank you so much for the excess of warnings and mental health checks. It’s really refreshing when in the current media landscape, traumatizing content will just be thrown in ones face with no warning.

[@a.walters123]

The last hour of this sweet girl’s life was the scariest and most terrifying hell anyone can endure. My god she must have been so scared and shocked, I just can’t imagine. This is beyond horrific. This is why there should be no second chances for child predators. Their freedom does not come before the freedom and safety of young children.

[@dariahughes5564]

Unfortunately yes, it does.

[@emilinebelle7811]

Agreed. If you hurt a child, NO second chances. I wish I had to power to make that so.

[@missbearlockholmes]

And painful. Don't forget monstrously painful.

[@GuadalupeGuacamole]

Can you imagine that the hours before she was taken she thought this man was a “Santa Claus” dude and she probably felt like it was winning the ‘little girl lottery’…shopping spree for shoes, clothes and toys at WalMart, full belly of a Happy Meal before bedtime then waking up in the morning to go fly on a plane to vacation with your Dad.😢 THAT….that fucking part reallllllllllllllly bothers me…there’s a level of preying on a victim that Smith is doing here and it’s the lowest of lows in humanity..luring, stalking and hunting….while distracting and ploying her neglectful mother with “shiny objects and coins”….like a primitive fucking animal of a conman. Absolutely positively tragically heartbreaking…this case is one of those moments when I hate this planet. I hope this man dwells in the deepest tortuous depths of hell for all eternity. (And no, his past as an abuse victim himself or his TBI…traumatic brain injury….does NOT excuse his actions. He’s a dog who needed to be put down long ago and Cherish would be alive today.)

[@remedy9648]

Agree 100%. They should have their lives forfeited and they need to be wiped from any civilized society. No mercy, none.

[@amberwilcox2416]

Omg I can't fathom how her bio dad must have felt being 1 day away from getting to see his little girl and then her mother seriously drops the ball and he never gets to see her again.

[@marcusweathers3070]

This is why our sexist/misandrist custody court needs to end.

[@lilacrain164]

Considering her father hit her hard enough to leave a mark when she was four, and also was accused of molesting another kid. She wouldn't have been any better of with her father

[@marcusweathers3070]

@@lilacrain164 Eh, probably fabrications by the druggie mother.

[@Nightman221k]

@@lilacrain164 this kid never had a chance. I hate to say it but the mom naming her daughters Cherish and Nevaeh, stereotypical stripper names, didn’t help things. The fact that her parents were dirtbags is just shit luck.

[@Johnbones23]

@@paigeevans6594 I agree what a sad pathetic excuse for a mother that cared more about hooking up w random dudes than her own daughter .. shame that the father never had a chance from the start because of her and makes me think this horrible crime would have been avoided instead she led her child to that monster like a lamb to the slaughter smh

[@juliavernon9770]

I listen to a ton a true crime and this is my favourite channel. You do such a thorough and respectful job of presenting each case. Thank you

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

It both confuses and infuriates me how short of sentences these child predators receive. It's abhorrent.

[@TheModernRiot]

Because the American justice system doesn't care about kids.

[@500ccRabbit]

He was sentenced to death

[@evinrock5717]

@@500ccRabbitthis monster is still alive and fighting his death sentence ruling still….

[@adaephon]

​@@500ccRabbit I think he's more referring to the fact Donald got 5 and 6 year sentences for masturbating in front of minors and attempted kidnapping. 5 years for intentionally masturbating in front of minors, seems low, but 6 years for attempted kidnapping with his prior sex offender conditions is horrifically short. Kerri-Anne Buck would have met the same fate as Cherish if she hadn't escaped him. How attempted kidnapping with a sex offender history got the same or smaller sentence at a time where you could get 25 years for repeated minor drug charges is wild to me.

[@bagelborrowing6085]

@@evinrock5717 He is literally on death row. He is not "fighting" his sentence, he is waiting to be killed. Making bullshit appeals is not the same as fighting your ruling

[@LB-io4tn]

When I was 13 I had to walk a mile home alone from the bus stop everyday after school. One afternoon it looked like it was about to rain, and a strange man pulled up next to the sidewalk and ‘kindly’ offered to give me a ride home. I said no, and he continued to pressure me: “I really don’t mind, I’m driving that way anyways. Plus, it’s about to rain and I don’t want you to get wet.” Again, I politely declined and kept walking (never approaching his car) Then he got angry, started yelling at me “I’m trying to do something nice for you and you are being so rude!” And on and on… obviously trying to guilt trip me for not getting in the car. This scared me, and I walked faster. He was screaming profanities at me, called me a ‘bitch’ and sped off. I was pretty terrified. I’m so thankful my parents taught me how to say NO to adults. Teaching children to say NO and disobey is a very important, life saving skill that they need to protect themselves. They also talked to me about being wary of strangers offering ‘kind gestures’ and never, EVER getting in a car with a stranger, no matter what the situation. Even if it’s raining. If I was 13 and thought this man was sus, I can only imagine what this mom felt. Yes, kind people in the world exist. But they will never pressure or guilt you to accept what they are offering. And when it comes to small children… be extra cautious about what people get access to your kids.

[@jbb8261]

I’m sorry that you were in that situation. I’m glad they taught you well but I wish they’d ensured you had a ride directly from school versus subjecting you to that sort of interaction even once.

[@danamavisca8849]

Same happened to me

[@A.x3]

This mom felt nothing. She let this creepy grown man walk away with her child

[@airidasiliauskaite8334]

Sometimes is the people you know. Majority of time the people you know..

[@1rage17]

Don’t be mad when people yell profanities at you cause it’s obvious they have issues themselves. I was walking my dog and this girl said “You’re ugly! And so is your dog!” out of nowhere, I thought she was talking to someone else but then she mentioned my dog, still I ignored her. Then she ran up to me and said “I’m sorry, you’re not ugly. And your dog is cute” and I was like…ok. lol frikken randos have issues for sure. Nothing on you at all. That’s why I only care about the opinions of people that love me, and even then you have to choose what matters to you most. Btw my dog is the most adorable living being on this earth, a cute little shih tzu

[@SaidNooneEver236]

No matter how negligent the mother was, the 911 call still hurts my hear. You can hear her realizing how naive she was and that she was hunted.

[@novembrluv]

The devastation in her voice, I broke.

[@elaineandrews1486]

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[@geelovepooh]

I was so mad at her until I heard that call. As a girl mom myself, I couldn’t imagine being in that situation.

[@leeanncornett5246]

@@geelovepooh I'm a mom of 7 and 6 of my babies are daughters. This hurt my soul 😭

[@tuxedomask7071]

The only thing she was naive about was that the man planned on raping her daughter right away. She knew what he had on his mind. He shows her kinky shoes, "Virgin Islands", wife not showing up, and who knows what else he said to her that she is not sharing. She wanted him to keep giving money so she needed him to stay comfortable. And he was only comfortable with her kids not being safe from him, so she made sure they weren't and let him have his way. It just escalated faster than she had expected. Notice how she has to mention that her daughter wanted her to buy something for herself but she refused. This exchange might have never even taken place. It's a way of making it look like she did not intentionally please the man in order to get money for herself out of him. Her realizations must be partially genuine considering that she hadn't anticipated this exact outcome. And of course she's pittying herself for the negative attention she will be getting for this. Oh and lastly, she knows what emotions are expected from a mother who lost her child. Just think about it... Her daughter just vanished and instead of focusing on how to find her (a better description) she babbles on and on about how he managed to trick her. She's already defending herself because is aware of her own guilt.

[@patpenner988]

Raine is actually stupid. She tries to make herself look selfless by saying that they aren’t in the Walmart for herself but for her kids, and then willingly let Cherish walk off with a suspicious individual, and then blaming her kid for not knowing about stranger danger. The person who was supposed to protect her failed miserably.

[@user-gd8xm3eb9t]

"I need real help" "I'll be treated like a real human" "I can't be out here, they're crazy for real" He didn't think an innocent 8 year old child deserved any of that, but the lifelong deviant, criminal and convicted murderer sure does!

[@normaforsyth7950]

I REALLY respect this guys warning in the beginning of these videos. He doesn't just throw out a short warning or disclaimer but truly gives attention to the watchers' wellbeing.

[@mattb6646]

If someone's well being is harmed by. KZbin video they're pretty soft and are gunna be in for a shock in the real world, after all these stories come from the real world... it ain't all sunshine and rainbows.

[@sweettina2]

@@mattb6646 Right on!

[@memyself4431]

I felt different I felt like her threw the mother under the bus and then goes on to ask for money as a donation for his bills off of this mothers brutally murdered child 😊

[@humanhunter2322147]

​​@@mattb6646 bro who hurt you? We live in communities. We as humans beings can and should look out for each other

[@dereksavauge6613]

Who clicks on a true crime video not expecting to hear something terrible? That’s kind of the whole point of true crime

[@bagginbrooks6573]

The amount of times this could of been prevented is beyond sickening. First off, if a bartender can get charged for over serving a customer and they get into a car crash. Then a judge should absolutely be held responsible for letting a known monster out of custody when they then go and do something like this. Second, reopen this case and give him life with no parole and stick him right in general population.

[@erikvaldes4293]

I didnt even think of that bartender analogy, that is so fucking true. No fucking reason for these people to be free

[@changuk_biased2010]

Third, whoever made the decision to give the mother custody also need to pay for it.

[@betting4life948]

he was released from custody in 2007, the statutory maximum had long been passed.

[@hannahp1108]

A bartender can't be charged if they overserve a customer and that customer gets in a crash, otherwise bartenders would be going to jail a lot

[@bagginbrooks6573]

@hannahp1108 Yes they can. A simple Google search proves that.

[@wubbalubadubdub714]

Here’s the problem. This mother is very comfortable exploiting people. She had a bad feeling, she didn’t trust him but the idea of getting some free stuff was just too tempting. It struck me when she said “I just wanted to buy a dress for Cherish” then when they’re taken to Walmart…she loads up a cart with “piles” for each of her daughters…she thought she was going to take advantage of an old man and it backfired horrifyingly. Her daughter got caught up in two horrible adults trying to take advantage of each other. Disgusting.

[@SanDinosaurHD]

I respectfully partially disagree with this comment. Rayne was clearly struggling to buy new clothes for the girls at the Dollar General and when the old man realized this, he used it as a weapon to get her to trust him. Was she neglectful? Yeah. Should she have told him that her girls can’t go with him even if he seemed “nice”? Of course. Was she unfit to have the girls under her custody? Without a doubt. But to say that she was trying to take of advantage of Donald by getting free stuff from him is far from the truth, in my opinion. Rayne was in a vulnerable position and she was desperate to provide for her daughters, so she blindly believed him and he used that to HIS advantage.

[@helenamirian908]

I have a neighbor like this. Constantly in crisis mode, always asking for favors. Even though she barely knows me, she actually asked me to take on full-time care of her small child, since her boyfriend left. I'm assuming for free. I said no way. "Because you're so nice!' wow, flattering.

[@topfl00rboss]

its not really taking advantage of an old man if he offers to pay for ur stuff. also piles could mean like 3 items each

[@topfl00rboss]

and he wasnt even that old/senile

[@LeslieFroelich]

she is a junkie and a prostitute, did you know that@@SanDinosaurHD

[@elizabethmccarthy9885]

Head injury in early childhood is such a frightening thing. There's so many of these people who do sick things that have had some head trauma when young. Their brain doesn't work right and never will. They cannot be rehabilitated.

[@TigerRoseable]

So many warning signs! 1. Man watches you shop with your children 2. Man stops you outside to talk and his "wife" doesn't ever show up. 3. Man never calls or texts his "wife" in your view to ask where she is. 4. Man asks you to ride with him instead of having you follow. 5. Man's van is missing an entire row of seats AND the front seat is leaned way back (shades of Ted Bundy...) 6. "Wife" isn't at the supposed destination to meet him. 7. "Wife" still doesn't show after TWO HOURS at the "meeting spot". 8. Man buys ONE item: ROPE! (SERIOUSLY, WTF?!) 9. Man wants to buy your 8 year old daughter WOMEN'S HIGH HEELS! 10. Man goes into the dressing room WITH YOUR CHILD 11. Man walks off with your child... Just the two of them. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️😭😭😭 What the h3ll was she thinking?! All for $150?! I just can't fathom how she thought anything about the situation was even remotely safe or okay! Did she really apologize that the employees now have to put back the cart full of clothes? And she didn't even check the parking lot?! There's so much wrong with the whole situation, and A LOT wrong with her behavior throughout her interactions with him. It seems like she was more worried about money than the safety of herself and, most importantly, her children. It's easy to understand why the public blamed her.

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

Every red flag imaginable. Women like Rayne are why I'm all for eugenics.

[@_Peach_T]

I'd hate to say it but she saw all of this and admitted she KNEW. All for money...she may have done it unintentionally but she sold her child away. She failed Cherish💔

[@debbiemckeown7626]

Definitely, obviously he is the one ultimately responsible for what happened but she failed to protect her children. She said herself she was suspicious and still chose to go with him and let him be alone with Cherish several times. Her behaviour and comments following the murder didn’t help either. Her other children are better off in Australia with their aunt.

[@Saffron-sugar]

She is really really stupid. Possibly a little mentally disabled. She should not have retained custody of her children. But ultimately, the horrendous murder was not committed by her. So, I sort of wanna blame her too, but she wasn’t the murderer. She was just a perfect victim.

[@onraj9mm]

She obviously wanted to get rid of her. There's no other explanation.

[@justforcommenting2804]

As a single mom on a very low income, I could never even imagine going with some random person for any reason. I can not believe the negligence on the mother’s part. This whole case is so sick. I hope that man rots in hell.

[@badazzbarbiePOV]

goody goody gum drops for you

[@laurynyep8425]

I’m 1000% sure he has a special place reserved for him.

[@laurynyep8425]

@@badazzbarbiePOV go away troll

[@margaritocolocho]

@@badazzbarbiePOV pig

[@desiguy55]

she simply put too much trust in this man who she thought was a loving caring father figure. this seems to be a common occurrence in all these crimes where women and girls just don't recognize evil. perhaps she being from Australia she lowered her guards down.

[@rbarba2751]

I really want to thank you for the trigger warnings you provide. You’re so caring and understanding. Because of this, you’re my favourite. And when I’m not feeling up for viewing such things, I always come back later. Much love and respect

[@priscillaharper65]

“I thought I taught them about stranger danger” Well.. evidently.. nobody taught HER about stranger danger.

[@Forestlif3]

Blaming her daughter

[@allelujahh]

She let her child go off with a man she had just met less than 3 hours ago. Who was acting sketchy and has a van with everything but free candy written on the side of it. What did she really think was going to happen?

[@MISSMADISONMEDIA]

When so much time had passed and she was still waiting for the dude’s fake wife🥴😔

[@allelujahh]

What really got me was the phone call when she says “ I hope he isn’t _______ her, I’ve had that done to me before.” Then why the hell didn’t you keep a better eye on her.

[@MISSMADISONMEDIA]

@@allelujahh Frankly she doesn’t seem very bright. This whole thing is heartbreaking af.

[@amaiyagrace]

In a way I feel for Raine but in a way I don't she put her sweet daughter in this situation.

[@itsmelive]

These guys know who they are preying on and how to work them. That’s the problem. He spent his whole life perfecting this horrible process and the mom was mentally ill, stressed, and manipulated in that moment.

[@CirqueLKay]

The part that made my blood boil was as he was talking to his mom in prison, he goes through how he just wants the death penalty or be marked insane, that way he gets a quick painless death or lives out his life peacefully. That the thought of having to live in prison unsure when he may be jumped, tortured, used, and brutally killed was the worst thought to him. Just infuriating to watch knowing that he did that exact thing to Cherish. Ugh. Disgusting and insane.

[@RavnerRavner]

That was his mother he was talking to?!?! Jeeeez he was manipulating her too. And his stupid mother was buying all the bullshit he was talking.

[@missjulia2010]

And his mom is just listening to him ramble and make excuses never questioning that he did anything wrong!

[@NikkiC777]

And when he is manipulating his mom into bringing him the dsm-v psychiatric handbook, so he can pretend to be insane. That showed how manipulative he is. Also the part where he is telling his mom he would've committed suicide by cop, but he didn't because he wouldn't have had a chance to say goodbye to her. That part really made me angry and disgusted. The whole thing really is very disgusting. You can tell he had his mom wrapped around his finger. He deserves to be in the general population.

[@gurutruecrimeguru1405]

Oh my goodness. Someone complaining about the sadistic murderous pedoplhile instead of getting off on blaming a woman fora man's evil.

[@dleigh7221]

He doesn't deserve death row, that's too lenient for him. He needs to be in general population so prison justice can be served. I would gladly put money on inmates books for delivering "justice" on a daily basis to this sicko. He deserves every bit of it.

[@LunatheMoonDragon]

"I hope he's not raping her right now because i've had that done to me... and it's not fun." Something about that sentence is absolutely insane to me. Who describes rape as "not fun?" Especially in the context of someone doing it to her own daughter? That's how you would describe doing a bunch of boring chores????

[@Come_On_Try_To_Shut_Me_Up]

I thought the same thing. It was an odd tag on to what she had said.

[@hayleyyjay]

Raine is infuriating. As a mother, I find her despicable. I don’t care about the circumstances. This was SO preventable.

[@anneg.8304]

Dreading is slowly but steadily becoming the only true crime channel that I want to support. You guys are so respectful of the victims, the level of research that you do is amazing, you talk about real issues such as mental health, abuse, how to get help, you donate to charities, you don’t make a big sensation out of the « gory » details… I could go on for hours. Thank you for using your platform as a way to educate people, and help them, instead of views.

[@scottbuck9348]

You’ve obviously never seen “that chapter”?

[@ZonictheZoneCop]

Check out Dave's Lemonade as well. At least a couple will have you tearing up

[@anneg.8304]

@@scottbuck9348 I follow TC :)

[@anneg.8304]

@@ZonictheZoneCop will check it out thanks for the recommendation!

[@littlecoffeebean6744]

Faves lemonade is also very good if you haven’t seen it. He covers this case extremely well 🍋

[@dianamary6170]

If you met my parents, you would think they were so sweet and normal. They work, go to church, they’re very generous in fact with others, and they’re both high achievers, they seem so normal. But they never protected me and never stood up for me. Not when I was a child and not now. They care more about being liked by everyone. A predator can sniff that out. They know which kids have parents like mine. They can recognize it. They can sense it. It is in their nature. They are predators. Please protect your children. Please. 🙏🏽

[@ayannascott523]

In sorry this happened to you! I hope that even though it was painful your parents allow you to be an amazing parent one day or you always are. Hopefully we can break generational curses

[@rebalspirit]

Diana Mary, thank you for sharing your experience. Please know you are not alone. My parents were much the same. They watched me change overnight at the age of eight and did literally nothing! My abuse was a cake walk compared to 10 years of emotional neglect, bullying and shaming. It has been easier for me to forgive my abuser than it has been to forgive my parents. My abuser actually admitted his guilt. Not my parents though. They know nothing about the gospel. They just want to appear good.

[@RickRando001]

@@rebalspirit Knowing about the Gospel doesn't make a blind bit of difference. My mother uses religion as a weapon and a shield, everything she does is 'justified' because she has God and you don't.

[@littlepoolefam3]

Unfortunately, not everyone that goes to church is a Christian, and it is a shame that those kinds of people use the church to make themselves look good. I am so sorry your parents were not there for you. You were and still are worth protecting, so I pray you are surrounded by people who will treat you with that kind of love, respect and dignity. Thank you for being open about your experience.

[@dumbbunny9178]

That’s so crazy to me, I really try to understand people with this mindset. Where’s the natural instinct to protect your family?

[@josephwright5140]

I just wanna applaud your warnings at the beginning of videos containing troubling content relating to kids. As much as I love your channel, and as much as I'd like to binge every video, as a father of 3 small children I just can't endure some content when it relates to the suffering of kids. I actually tried and watched your Chris Coleman video and it had me deeply disturbed for weeks. Thank you for your warnings and I hope you influence others, keep up the fantastic work

[@booby0192]

The dispatcher on the mothers call was amazing dealing with this. She did an amazing job getting the information quickly and in the proper order for such an emergency. I can't imagine being a parent in this situation but what my emotions are doing now is probably only a fraction. Heartbreaking.

[@FeelTheLack]

Listening to him talk about how horrible being in prison would be for him and that he would never be able to relax because he wouldn't know when he'd be stabbed or beaten to death shows that that's where this man belongs, prison, not death row and certainly not a hospital.

[@hotdogwaterjug]

he deserves to get his ass beat tho for sure

[@zzevonplant]

He should have to deal with prison for a good long time, and then if the inmates around him don't handle it themselves, he should be tortured, legally, by the state, and then hung in public. And even that would be too good for him.

[@itsLayshia]

Agreed!

[@ville666sora]

Yep. No remorse whatsoever for what he did to an innocent child, but he's only worried about what's going to happen to HIM. The only believable part of what he told his mom was him talking about the anxiety he felt while the child was in his van, but he only felt that anxiety because he knew he just did something heinous and was afraid of being caught.

[@mariarojas5050]

Pathetic bastard has the odesity to be afraid of being raped What a piece of coward garbage Its exactly what he deserves and more every single day of his worthless life every day all day long!!

[@ashleighs2079]

I can’t believe that I haven’t seen a comment about how disgusting it is that he is speaking to his mother, almost in a braggadocious manner, about how his case would be “bigger than Casey Anthony’s”. There are clearly not only predatory issues here but narcissistic ones as well. He is proud of what he did and how he did it. Not only that, but blaming her for following him and being afraid of her is one of the most infuriating things I have ever seen.

[@annehaight9963]

It's a classic technique used by pedophiles. "The child initiated it. She was the aggressor. She wanted it. She wouldn't leave me alone. I didn't want to but she was relentless."

[@elizabethjarvie6077]

Yes read my comment. That was quite possibly the VERY MOST SICKENING THING I've ever seen/heard! And I've seen AND been through some things! He's bragging, he's lying through his face, he thinks he's clever, and just wants to work on a plan to stay away from prison because " he won't be safe" and he might be "beaten or raped" !!! They REALLY should have sent him there. My blood is actually boiling, much much worse than after when I saw the trial, because his scheming back talking cowardly clever criminal self is now actually playing the victim!!! I'm so glad my family throughout history, knew exactly what to do with snakes like this guy. End of problem. I wish they would not defer the death sentence & do it asap & that ir would be by hanging like in the old days. No more soft landings & safe spaces for murderers!

[@cocothedino_2901]

it makes me wonder how this case made his mother feel. she clearly enabled and had a hand in protecting him from the consequences of his previous attacks his whole life. and now as he openly admits to her that he holds no guilt or shame in how he brutalized this young girl, in fact hes proud of all the attention he garnered for what he did, his mother is dead silent.

[@delorasledge2492]

I'm astonished that she could listen. I understand, standing by your child but LIMITS.

[@damnthatscrazy4426]

Its not blaming, its for how fucking stupid she was being for ignoring the most basic red flags. •Random man interested in your family •Supposed wife on the way over •Time passes and no wife/no car •Time STILL passes and no wife •Never bothers contacting wife •GETS UPSET WHEN SHE DOESNT WANT TO GET INTO THE CAR. •GOES TO A DIFFERENT SECTION •SHOWS TOO MUCH FUCKING INTEREST IN HER CHILDREN Its one thing to be naive its another thing to be the most idiotic parent who WANTS to be ignorant. I hope she looses custody of her other daughter and never gets contact as long as she lives. She's a sorry excuse of a fucking mother.

[@emmavrijburg6676]

i'm also incredibly baffeled at the predators mother who always kept insisting that there wasn't anything wrong with her son.

[@EYE_GOTCHA]

Why do you think that he’s the way that he is…? 😬

[@AlbinoWhiteGuy]

I’ve been watching this channel for a while now and you do a great job of being respectful to the victims of each case. I’m really happy for the success of your channel 🙏

[@michellelowe7082]

Can we just give a mention to Carrie Ann who was a really smart and brave little girl! The way she saved herself was so smart for her young age!

[@jenniferp4612]

Yes! Seriously. Very impressive. Her parents raised her right

[@pinkpugginz]

She got lucky. Yes she did everything she was supposed to do. Sometimes even that isn't enough.

[@LetsGoFlyers2011]

@@pinkpugginz What's your point?

[@murrayshekelberg9754]

@@LetsGoFlyers2011 It seems to clearly make the point that sometimes doing everything you're supposed to do still isn't enough.

[@LetsGoFlyers2011]

@@murrayshekelberg9754 OK, why does it need mentioning on this comment about the girls intelligence and bravery? "sHe gOt lUcKy"? No, she was smart and brave and saved herself.

[@Shininanigans]

As someone with a similar type of mother, it absolutely kills me when ignorant unfit people have kids.

[@soundinsight1076]

This is the biggest argument for abortion

[@bcmcboot]

speaking from experience?

[@carissaexplainsitall8481]

@@soundinsight1076 not really. That’s just adds more wrong to the situation.

[@heatherlynn4652]

@@carissaexplainsitall8481 no, it definitely is a good argument for abortion. Children can't suffer if they aren't born

[@carissaexplainsitall8481]

@@heatherlynn4652 babies suffer when they are killed in the womb

[@NASkeywest]

Did he possibly pay the mother to take her into the dressing room TWICE?! No way you would let your daughter go into a changing room with a stranger you are already suspicious of…

[@SharlaMontgomery]

I agree 💯! That part blew me away.

[@emcdonald496]

Do you honestly believe that?

[@NASkeywest]

@@emcdonald496 yes. Why would you let a random stranger you just met go into a changing room with a guy you just met. You have kids? Would you let me take your child into a changing room?

[@haleyguthrie3113]

Lord don't mention that! Ppl on here are defending the mom and getting rediculous about it. But I agree, her criminal record and her 911 call are suspicious. Why would a mom have to say, "I hope he's not raping her, I've had that happen to me and it isn't fun". It was just so crazy. Then she abandoned her 1st child. Then she was given a year to get her shit together to get her other kids back but failed.

[@evinrock5717]

⁠@@haleyguthrie3113thank you I haven’t heard anyone else say how sus that 911 call was. Everything you said is 100% true. Insane negligence

[@outlast_the_night7727]

I'm a couple minutes into the video, and I am stunned - so they had someone evaluate the family and give their expert opinion on who the young girl should stay with, only to throw that evaluation on who would be more fit in giving her a somewhat stable home life completely out the window, because she had already "bonded" with the mother? Who was reported by said expert to neglect her whenever her boyfriend was around? Wow. Just wow.

[@calilove6445]

Everyone's blaming the mother, I get it, but who were the judges that kept letting him out after they said he couldn't be rehabilitated??! Sex offenders don't get rehabilitated.. EVER!Why does our justice system and judges keep releasing rapists abd pedos into our communities? They should be in jail too!! Why can't we ever look into them and fire them at the very least?? This was avoidable many times over. This case is haunting. It's one of the worst I've heard. That poor little girl. 💔

[@0tt0z]

I'm wondering, with the whole Epstein business that came out, alot of politicians are involved in this same conduct. They may not want tougher laws incase they get caught.

[@notabot......................1]

Both are horrible. As a mother, you are the last defense. She failed her beautiful, fragile daughter. She is negligent by law, hopefully the Lord can forgive this low IQ woman. It's so sad

[@thanos7110]

Because majority of them are sex offenders too. There making the laws to help them if they get caught.

[@xduwu4257]

​@Status 01 I think about this a lot too. As many sick people there are in this world there's so many enablers, people who say nothing. The people who thought he was a sweet reformed sex offender lmao.

[@LilBearZen]

Every time a sex offender is released back into the public it’s a failure of the system. “Rehab” for them, at least anything short of voluntary chemical castration, isn’t something I have a lot of faith in. I don’t think you can “fix” that kind of thing, they need to be sequestered from the rest of society permanently.

[@hamster-t5v]

the fact that he claims that she attached herself to him and jumped in his car and just oh so badly wanted to be with him is absolutely disgusting. some predators are so delusional that they imagine that the child actually wants it and that justifies it

[@TheGregcawthorne]

His made up story framing it as if anyone can accidentally abduct some is pure insanity!

[@beanpeatree]

I agree with what you said and also would add how he's trying to make himself the victim and how the story is so poorly constructed,had an innocent baby not lost her life it would be laughable. "I panicked when she followed me outside" why? Barely any time had elapsed you could come up with an excuse to leave and take her back to her mom and that would be the end of it. "I thought I'm a sex offender if they catch her out by my van with her mom inside and no one will believe me" wtf do you mean no one will believe you? They wouldn't have to number one there is cameras number two you have the mothers permission number three all of her stuff is In you vehicle backing up all of that. You're uncomfortable with her following you outside but you'll follow her into a dressing room? TWICE?!? I call bullshit on all of that

[@SerenDipity64711]

he had every opportunity to put Cherish out of the van, and speed off but he chose to do what he did. HE MADE THAT DECISION!!!@@beanpeatree

[@dopesickclothing8390]

That could be right and he could also be trying to make it seem like he’s telling the truth when it’s really a lie to get out of the premeditated part of the charge and avoid the death sentence

[@Snorky_88]

It's insane how trusting women are. All for the sake of being polite and being "nice". 99% of men in the same situation would have NEVER gotten in that car with their children.

[@UltimateCerberus666]

I've been watching your content pretty much daily for about 3 months and this is it. This is the first one I had to pause and click off of because I just can't finish it. I just want to sincerely thank you for all the work you put in but especially taking the time to suggest when and why we should exit the video for the mental well being of your audience.

[@marsfilipek7478]

Like, when multiple professionals say that a serial offender shouldn't be released because they cannot be rehabilitated and show no desire to change....maybe listen to them!!! I cannot begin to describe the shear amount of anger that i feel when people like him do these horrible horrible things. May this man, and others like him, find no peace. excellent work as always dreading.

[@MissChabre]

That conversation he had with his mother...I can't describe the rage building up in me. Poor little Cherish.

[@jillianpw9789]

Yes!!! And she is believing and buying into it!! I’m so sickened and angered by it

[@bettyboop3102]

He spoke of making peace or amends with God after he is dead. Sorry bud...you best do that BEFORE they inject you, or you won't be very happy with where you end up. There are NO second chances after you die.

[@omarra6781]

She HAS to "believe". Otherwise, she'd have to face herself for being a POS, raising a POS son, and unleashing him on the world. She's almost as disgusting as he is.

[@jbb8261]

@@omarra6781 she’s as disgusting if not more. She raised him 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@A.x3]

Most infuriating part is this creep talk about being afraid of rape in prison. Stfu.

[@ec8787]

The mother was fighting custody of her daughter but so easily let a stranger take her to a dressing room…wow, poor little girl 😢

[@VillaCarrington]

Holy shit...

[@gomezk1493]

She was fighting to win not cause she wanted her sadly, she didn’t care about her daughter enough to fight for her but the courts love to assume the mother is the only person good for a child which a lot of times is bull. Her dad never would’ve let her go anywhere with that man she basically gave her to him, accident or not that kinda shit only happens when you literally don’t care

[@marktrain9498]

If she gave up custody, she'd lose the child support payments.

[@leahmurray666]

All about getting the extra money. If the father had custody, she wouldn't get child support. Scumbag piece of sh*t. She should rot in jail with the rapist.

[@Stacey-go5jx]

Exactly! I don’t have a lot of sympathy for her. I’m pissed at her actually.

[@lizsalazar8808]

How did she lose her Australian accent and pick up a southern drawl? She was an adult when she came to the USA, I find that so strange.

[@em84c]

People are more likely to lose their accent if they move before age of 13 when that part of your brain shuts down. I wonder if it never shuts down in people who are slow ?

[@shitneyb5562]

To fit in. Same reason she was incapable of telling this guy NO. There are people that'll agree to anything to avoid sticking up for themselves

[@user-ut7wz7mh2r]

I had a thick Long Island accent (think Fran Drescher) when I was a kid, but I moved to southern California when I was 15, and my accent changed. Now I sound neutral, newscaster English, save for the handful of words and phrases that come through thick as Brooklyn 😅 like Worcestershire (wuhstuhsheea) and mother (muthuh) ​@@em84c

[@totallytessaaudio]

Of all the cases I’ve watched and followed, this one sits in the back of my mind all the time. When Cherish’s name pops up in my mind at random I’m instantly humbled. One of the most vile, repulsive, and absolutely disturbing things I’ve ever heard. Cherish was failed by so many. The man who ended her life has an arrogant and sadistic energy about him that makes this so much worse. The embodiment of evil and selfishness. Hell is already here on earth. Rest peacefully sweet girl.

[@answ0r]

I was pushing my stroller with my two year old in it up the hill on my way home in pouring rain. It was winter and already dark out. I had a whole lot of shopping with me, too. When a car stopped right next to me and a guy, alone in the car, asked if he could take us home. I declined. He insisted, the weather, cold, walking up the hill with all the stuff and a small child. I firmly told him no, we'll be good. He drove off, parked right after the next crossroads on the side we were walking on. I took another, much longer route to go home, but tried to stick to heavy lit main streets, with traffic and a lot of homes. We catched a cold, but i prefered that over what could have happened if we got into this guy's car. He could have had good intentions, but nope. I don't know you, I don't trust you.

[@Ana-jv7zl]

Sometimes when I see a women with her kids walking like that I want to help them out and give them a ride. We went through it with my mom. And me now being a mom with a little one I know it’s hard. I understand though that you can’t help anyone anymore because so many bad people like this guy ruined it

[@answ0r]

@@Ana-jv7zl yeah, that's true. :( it's really sad.

[@glassawata]

@@Ana-jv7zl just offer to call her an uber and wait with her until they arrive if it's an unsafe area

[@michellejesica]

@@glassawata yeah but then they'd have your address

[@glassawata]

@@michellejesica it's a risk, sure.

[@ricebear4514]

Cherish was let down by her mother, child services, the courts (both the courts that let her stay with her mom, and the courts that let that vile monster go) It all led to her being introduced to her killer. It’s good to hear that her little sisters are being taken care of. Rest in peace, Cherish.

[@whosyourdaddy4579]

Rayne was not the killer here sweetie! She had borderline personality disorder...was that her fault? She allegedly attempted suicide during her pregnancy with Cherish...was that her fault? She sensed red flags with Don Smith but disregarded them as she didn't want to appear disingenuous as she was struggling single mom with 2 young daughters. Did she make some bad decisions...oh absolutely! But she wasn't the killer...so let's put blame where it belongs...right between the eyes of serial child sexual offender, Donald Smith pos!

[@bagginbrooks6573]

@whosyourdaddy4579 The blame gets shared around here. The mom for being negligent, the courts for giving cherish to her stupid mom and the courts for even letting Don out in the first place. All persons should be charged. Both judges who made those decisions, the mom and of course Don. Although Don shouldn't of got the death penalty, he should get life in general population.

[@star_gazer2967]

My goodness Mike Fosturd from Rockford 🤡 you've left over 8,000 comments on this video alone! 😳 You really are enraged 😂😂 move it along now... Get it, got it, good 😅

[@annabanana7084]

​@@whosyourdaddy4579nah she was failed by her mom, and it caused her death by that monster. That comment was 100%.

[@ginge_binge]

​@@bagginbrooks6573I agree to a point. I think the guilt of this is enough punishment for this mother. I hope she's gotten help and or has given her remaining children up. Not everyone has the same mental capacity and then add any kind of addiction and struggle to it, it's sad all around.

[@trashlion2767]

I remember when this happened, I was 12. This is actually the walmart my parents would shop at as a kid, I remember after this we stopped shopping there. My dad was so angry at this case.

[@mudd4284]

The Devil is thriving in this greedy world

[@Theerevert]

My father wouldn’t let me play with any of my friends until he met their families, if I wanted to go over and play, he would come over too and hang out with their parents or I couldn’t play inside with them. I’d have to hang out in the front yard. I used to think my dad was so paranoid and not let me do anything until I was older and understood.

[@sueannarca9102]

What a great dad 💙

[@Theerevert]

@@sueannarca9102 thank you 💛

[@therealwilfreddierkes9980]

What an amazing Dad. ❤

[@abigailsanchez7722]

It’s because he wanted you to be safe and wanted to make sure that no one would mess with his baby girl. You are lucky to have a father like him.

[@theresajohnson1959]

I was that parent, I usually had the kids come to my house. My kids never where allowed to go into anyones house without my permission. She deserves life in prison!

[@Yourmomgoestocolledge]

I live here in Jacksonville and this was a BIG deal. All the clips from the news you showed are literally the news im watching right now. They always remember her on the day she went missing.

[@louieberg2942]

The medical examiner needed a break to gather herself as she explained what happened in court. Wrap your mind around that.

[@Haz2288]

So this guy put a rope in her cart AND offered to take her daughter to the changing room twice? How is the mom not complicit? Letting a stranger take your daughter to the changing room alone is beyond insane.

[@pinkpugginz]

not inside the changing room he took her back to the rooms. still bad.

[@puekawNEpuyrruh]

Exactly.... She probably brought her kids around Strangers alot... Sick

[@insanemainstream3633]

Red flag rope in the cart?!?!?

[@BBrunnel]

Allowing a stranger to take your child to McDonald’s… lord

[@Brianna-oc2zb]

honestly i think the mom was probably a dumb ran down cr4ckwh0re desperate for a walmart gift card and she was too busy shopping while her daughter was being brought off by a strange man she didn’t want to do or say anything that’d make the man mad or not want to buy them the stuff she literally put her motherly instincts behind her in hopes that she’d be able to get some free sh1t it’s really sad and fu5ked but honestly i don’t think she was in on it

[@lilliako]

Him pleading to go on death row because he knows the repercussions in prison, makes me sick. He heard those pleads from victims, and didn't stop. Why does he deserve any mercy after what he did to Cherish?

[@mattb6646]

He should have been tortured everyday for the rest of his life.. no holds barred

[@blondbraid7986]

This is why I dislike the death penalty, like he said himself, it'd be way easier for him than living the rest of his life with people knowing his crimes.

[@jp1870]

He’s done it to way more people I’m sure. He’s a demon.

[@veronicalee3831]

As a mother myself of little children, I can’t even fathom allowing a stranger to be alone with them no matter how kind they seemed. I don’t care how I come across, or if feelings could be hurt, my children are my MAIN priority and it’s my sole job to protect them. It doesn’t matter what your financial status is, your children’s life is worth more than some gift card. That’s how mothers have to think, nothing is ever more important than them, no matter how desperate you are.

[@loretta_3843]

You're so right in the advice you give. Something that I've noticed about rather manipulative people is (what I call) using your politeness against you. They take advantage of your manners or inability to be more forceful to harm you for their own benefit. I really can't stand it!

[@palck9tg]

Cherish was born the day after I was in the same year. I discovered this case when I was about 14 and it made me feel sick that she was the same age I was. I'm turning 18 this December, and I'll think about her that day too. The world failed you Cherish, I'm sorry.

[@NyxieMayn]

Cherish died at 8 years old tho, so shouldn’t that mean u were also 8 😅

[@aleeshaj2084]

@@NyxieMayn no. Because she discovered it when she was 14... not the day it happened...

[@cb3514]

@Max yes it should make them the same age at the time of the tragedy, and I'm sure OP would confirm that. However, that is NOT what she said to begin with. Calling somebody out requires comprehension first.

[@Ill_wait_somewhere]

No…. Her idiot mother failed her…

[@duchessofhazjack4878]

Her dad. imagine knowing your daughter was about to come to you in just a few hours, knowing you were finally able to care for her and keep her safe as she deserved.. Then... that phone call. He came SO close to protecting her. Great video. A lot of interesting information and footage found, well done. Very dangerous individual who knew exactly how to target a certain demographic. Haunting seeing Cherish being lead away like that. Not knowing this was the end, the end of everything she knew.

[@ElleDeas]

God, this is a painful painful thought. One can only hope he’s alive and doing the best he can for his children.

[@duchessofhazjack4878]

@@ElleDeas really hits me in the heart. He must've been so relieved and excited preparing for her. He was so close to saving her. I'm not sure I could live with it, it'd feel like I was being punished. The footage of the disgusting specimen in prison is really strange too. Talk talk talk , me me me. Spin spin. Lie lie lie. He'd make a good politician. She did not run over to his van and get in and if she did yes you could've opened the door , and if she wouldn't get out, call for help, get someone to go and get security and find her mum. He lead her to it as shown in the CCTV and it was obvious he planned the entire thing as soon as he spotted Rayne and her kids. He may be mentally ill but he has scouting and grooming skills down to a fine art.

[@joemair4179]

The dad didn't end up the kids.. wonder why?

[@J.C...]

You really have no idea. It's a pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. Not even my worst enemy. My daughter wasn't that close to being in my care, but it wasn't far away. She also wasn't kidnapped. But she did die due to someone else's actions. She was 22 months old. We had just gotten past SIDS and many other fears I had as a new parent and then it was all over. Gone because of someone else's stupidity, carelessness, and neglect, IMO. That someone was her mother. When you regularly text & drive with your children in the car, it's considered neglect. That's worse than driving drunk with your kids in the car. To do that regularly would easily be neglect. So you can't have 1 be neglect and not the other. Her mother was texting & driving and wrecked and killed our child. Not sure I'll ever be able to forgive her.

[@duchessofhazjack4878]

@@J.C... I'm not even going to pretend I understand. That's beyond any level of pain I've experienced and saying I'm sorry for your loss sounds ridiculous. What I will say is that energy you feel as you direct hate at her mother is wasted energy. Her mother will be haunted by that and I believe karma is real. Channel that energy into knowing your daughter is looking down on you wanting you to have the best life you can. Make her proud. Even little achievements, she's there smiling. As you feel the breeze across your face, or a little shiver, that's her saying "well done daddy" xxx

[@miavujacic4853]

Him being a child predator, and lying to this woman that his wife was from VIRGIN islands, doesn't sit right in my very soul.

[@Silkysmooth-qk5nc]

This woman is so frustratingly slow Her lawyer was trying to make her say the reason she stuck around with her kids with a complete stranger and felt comfortable was because he lied about having a wife and that he waiting for her . Women naturally feel more at ease with married men Otherwise it comes across to the jury as she didn’t really take the safety of her kids seriously, why would you wait with a random man in a carpark She couldn’t pick up on his subtle hints

[@hotdogwaterjug]

idc what trauma they’ve been thru or how “reformed” they seem, pedophiles deserve every horrible thing that comes to them and nothing will ever change my mind

[@caitlynwenzel7163]

Literally like once you’re an offending pedophile, it’s over for you at least it should be😒

[@katherinema7210]

agree 100%

[@sad_vegan507]

💯

[@robmarsh918]

I feel you. However, abusers are almost always have a history of being abused as kids. What would you say if you met a child who was abused, then found out years later they carried out the same abuse? Would you still want them to burn too? I personally understand that they need to receive consequences, but I’m usually bothered with people who see abusers and say “Let them burn” without a second thought because I think we do need to highlight their past as an abused child. NOT TO GIVE THEM SYMPATHY. But instead highlight the need for appropriate psychological intervention for kids who are abused. If we can look at an abuser and say “This was once a hurt child” then we can address one of the most powerful factors of creating an abuser. We can remove the stigma of getting treatment and hit the problem at the source. So many dismiss these factors because of their outrage and refusal to humanize the abuser. Some people even fall back on “Well I was abused and I don’t abuse.” Anecdotes don’t counter statistics, and taking that stance further devalues the influence it has on creating future abusers.

[@thekharijones]

Lmfao, you treat them like animals then get upset they do animalistic things. People refuse to help pedophiles then wonder why they don't choose to get help

[@tonimartine7985]

Never allow your child to be alone with anyone you don't know and half the ones you do.Anyone paying unusual attention to your child needs to watched like a hawk .Trust no-one.

[@jonathannauck7453]

Old white guy in a white van (with carpeted walls and seats removed). How is this mother so naive? Maybe they didn’t have child predators in Australia but here in the US (growing up in the 80s), we were told to look out for these creeps.

[@correypeta]

Man, I dont trust that mother. What if she sold poor Cherish to that monster!!! There's something wrong here

[@MorriganTeague]

Lots of people think that 😢

[@shannonjackson9778]

Having to listen to that man talk and talk and talk made my skin crawl. Poor cherish. Her last moments on earth were unfathomable and the last voice she ever heard was that utter piece of human trash. She should have been safe in her fathers custody instead she got stuck with a negligent mother who allowed her to go through the most horrifying experience ever. These poor children. RIP Cherish. You deserved so much better sweet angel.

[@idipped2521]

She was a sweet little girl😢

[@jfelton3583]

Having to listen to the mother talk was infuriating

[@sanguinelynx]

This mother had to be slow, even more than she was desperate, because that man wasn't just giving warning signs he was giving whole billboards. Cherish went through such a horrible ordeal, such torture, and I can't imagine her terror. He was a monster.

[@belladonna5904]

She wasn't slow, she said herself she saw warning signs. I think she just didn't care.

[@tjk1223]

You can tell she's not really the sharpest tool in the shed.

[@rubyali5337]

poor woman he took advantage of her financial need and took advantage of her trust and even though she had red flags she was so shocked by the reality of taking 100 dollars of free clothing he has definately done this before she was being stupid not evil in my opinion

[@MichaelErnest666]

Yeah She Has Some Type Of Mental Disorder Because That's Not Normal

[@MichaelErnest666]

@@rubyali5337 Yeah

[@shellchenonceau6987]

Parents please guard your children. She lost sight of ALL her little ones SO many times! He dangled $100 like candy to her, and she took the bait. Sad.

[@DarkKoffee]

If she had a bad feeling about the man who she just met, she should have NEVER EVER allowed her daughter to be near him, let alone going to the changing room with him ALONE all by herself. Also, she saw him throwing a rope in the basket, and this still did not give her any BIG red flag. I feel extremely sorry for Cherish and how horrible her last moment must have been. RIP Cherish. Thanks so much dreading for covering every case with respect and thoroughness.

[@nickyblue4866]

The mother knew what she was doing.... there is no way she didnt know what may happen to her.

[@DarkKoffee]

@@nickyblue4866 couldn't agree more!

[@tessaducek5601]

Any time AFTER a tragedy. The common theme is. " I had a bad feeling " I believe it is said as sort of an expected after thought.

[@alex-kk5so]

@@tessaducek5601 I don't think that's right, usually people say that because they DID in fact have a bad feeling but didn't act on it which is why they mentioned they had a bad feeling, as in they regret not listening to their instincts. I think she definitely knew the danger but didn't expect him to leave with the child, she allowed him and her to go off alone to a dressing room multiple times and god knows what took place then...but I think she expected him to do what he wanted and then to return with the child. Just my opinion.

[@Lifesizemortal]

Her incredible greed in this situation is deplorable. All she cared about was free stuff while putting her children in harm. Parent of the year. Absolutely mind-blowing that I have to share the genepool with creatures like her and that r*pist.

[@SarahBellummmm]

With a mother like that it really didn't take a psychic to predict something bad would happen to one of her kids, the way she spoke about the first kid she abandoned is disgusting.

[@Stacey-go5jx]

This right here

[@debbiemckeown7626]

Exactly, Obviously the ultimate person responsible for her death is her killer but Rayne is also responsible for what happened. She ignored so many warning signs about Smith even when she said herself she felt uneasy about him. She even let him go into the changing rooms with him.

[@ewelulu]

You are an absolute king for the content warning at the beginning. Thank u so much for that.

[@user-wo4pj5bf6g]

Rayne acts a bit empty headed

[@LeslieFroelich]

many women act like this because it is the easiest way to go thru life.

[@Anna_Crossing]

@@LeslieFroelich not true, you're just a misogynist hope this helps❤

[@TimeWasterMatt]

I do not usually leave comments, but I have something I would like to say: I have watched many of these channels because I have an interest in the psychological perspectives of true criminal cases. With that said, I truly appreciate this channel and its approach to the mental health of its viewers. Many others have a tendency to sensationalize the worst aspects of a case, show graphic or gory imagery for shock value, or focus more on the perpetrator than the victim. None of that is true here and it is greatly appreciated, but what is most valued above all is the warning the channel operator is regularly giving before videos as to the nature of what will be discussed. He would rather a person retain their mental stability than gain one more view. For that, I will always support this channel’s content and its continued presence on this platform.

[@GraceGrimoire]

Yes, I hope this is beginning of a marginally less unethical true crime community on this platform.

[@ambermckoy1605]

Came here to say the same.

[@RedeyedEm]

Well said

[@J0SHUAKANE]

I find it annoying. This is not the topic for children or adults who need someone to hold their hand.

[@ellentronicmistress4969]

​@@J0SHUAKANE Wanting to understand criminal psychology without wanting to see disturbing images is perfectly valid. If you want gore, I imagine there are plenry of horrific places on the internet where you can satisfy your desires.

[@katiec972]

His story is insane. He panicked when she came outside so instead of just taking her back in an explaining to her mum (who probably hadn’t even noticed at that point), he drives off, violently assaults her and then kills her. How do these people seriously think anyone will buy that?

[@FreedomAndJustice4All]

And the surveillance tapes show that cockamamie story isn't even true: the two walked out of the Wal-Mart side-by-side! What about the disgusting little Freudian tell when asked where his "wife" was from..."She's from the Virgin Islands".. May he receive all of God's justice and wrath for this vile behavior. May Don's mother & family face their due penalty for not interceeding in stopping the development of this monster.

[@savvygood]

I think he was trying to make himself seem innocent. He wasn’t half way through the parking lot like he said. They were walking out of the store together.

[@7SonsofFeanor]

Difficult to listen to any attempted defense or excuse here. He wants to make it sound like it wasn't premeditated, wasn't planned. But I do believe him when he said it was a done deal the moment she got in the van. Up until that point, something might have prevented his attempted abduction. That was the moment he knew he was going to be able to take her away and do what he'd wanted to do to her all along. Rest in peace, Cherish.

[@rbarrett111]

Yes, exactly.

[@Jsa460]

Not to mention there are cameras everywhere which he knows, and will show that what he's saying about her running after him and jumping in his van all by herself isn't what happened.

[@heatherh.197]

A white van, huh. Always be suspicious of the white van

[@laurasutcliffe723]

You didn't spare her mom much. I actually like the way you put her accountable for abandoning her daughter in Australia, saying "she didn't like her daughter, or much less love her". Wow. It just sets the tone of how she really was as a mother. Poor Cherish. 😞

[@datashtho]

We need to stop worrying about disappointing strangers or people we have just met. Being polite is good but when someone is guilting you or making you feel bad about being cautious, then those are red flags. I once let someone I didn’t know use my bathroom when I lived alone and I immediately regretted it.

[@Randompotatoes-qs7bm]

One time I gave a guy a ride from the gas station a couple miles to the hospital. He just had me drop him off at the bottom of the parking lot. I regretted it immediately too! He was telling me on the way over that something was wrong with his butt (meanwhile he was sitting on my passenger seat…) and he even told me while I was driving that he didn’t like my haircut. 😂 I’m giving him a free ride and he’s making a comment about me? Noooo. I was too worried about being a people pleaser that I gave a stranger a ride in my car. He could have called 911 or the police if he really needed a ride. There is nothing wrong with saying NO/I’m afraid not/I can’t/etc.

[@AutumnBRreeze]

Once exiting a store, a rando polite young man asked to use my phone, I said Nope sorry. Dude stared at me w/ shocked face like, what a Bitche 😲. I didn't care.

[@lindsaym.h.3583]

I think it's also relevant how this man used religion as part of it. You can't underestimate predators in terms of their ability to persuade you to go along with them. He's setting up that he's a married Christian and is like "hey, here's my ID." It's easy to say "oh, this was clearly a ruse," but you have someone who needs money and an offer that seems to answer your prayers and you go along with it.

[@TheVeek192]

No one "makes you feel" a damned thing. You are the creator of your feelings. OWN your sh*t. It's yours.

[@dietdrpepper15]

Yes. Be rude. Easier to apologize that fight for your life.

[@bumpers17921]

This is tragic on so many levels. The mom appears developmentally challenged and completely unfit to care for a child. She also had been sexually abused as a child. That trauma tends to confuse boundaries. So sad that she had kids that she could not support adequately financially or otherwise. This was the result of extremely poor judgment and the child suffered horribly because of it.

[@tempest_91]

That’s the worst part about this. She practically handed her to him on a platter. It could have been easily prevented.

[@n00bJesus]

dude i had no clue it was you and your brother making this? I appreciate the straight-forwardness with everything, giving such a warning at the start is super commendable!

[@BunBUn23557]

This guy is literally the character in a stranger danger pedo school film (red flags)

[@myathewolfeh1156]

When I heard that she let him, a complete stranger, go into the changing room with Cherish, my jaw dropped. Who in their right mind would let that happen? I know she's desperate, but it's your CHILD. I wouldn't let anyone I didn't know and trust do something so intimate with my child. Makes me wonder how oblivious she's been to other abuse that might have happened on her watch.

[@lowlowseesee]

its a mystery. the only conclusion I can think of is that she is mentally ill or just extremely narcissistic or something. it makes no sense.

[@Nightman221k]

Sounds like she was letting him do it as payment for the 100 dollar gift card, she just never expected that he’d leave the store with Cherish. It’s disgusting that she served up her own kid on a silver platter for a pedo. It’s disgusting.

[@MyDadsJorts]

The same kind of person that would abandon their first born on the opposite side of the planet and pretend they never existed

[@TheDealMaster]

I 100% agree. It is absolutely ridiculous to allow some creep into a changing room with an 8 year old.

[@belladonna5904]

I think she and the guy had an agreement and then she realized he had just taken off with her

[@Blackdrose]

Shout out to the child protective services who disregarded the evaluation and just based everything on "bond". They failed a lot of kids and just added Cherish to the list.

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

For real. 😔

[@Nisha_Chantel]

I think it was a custody hearing and not CPS, and apparently the dad had a prior incident involving sexual abuse of a child… they left that out of the video

[@jfelton3583]

​@@Nisha_Chanteland just listening to this remedial female talk to the 911 dispatch let me know that the child was fkd regardless. Likely to end up just as remedial as her mom. Even if he did have an incident with a child it's likely he wouldn't do it to his own child. This is the problem with our courts just because she's female she gets awarded primary custody. They assessed the father and recognized he was the better parent regardless of his alleged incident. So yeah once again our family court justice system failed the child

[@Shsjier]

​@@jfelton3583he SA'd a child bit probably wouldnt do that to his own child? What tf is that based on? Your hatred of women has rotted your brain

[@MacMac548]

I really wish they would’ve known about her past in Australia, I feel like that would’ve sealed the deal that she didn’t get custody