The Chang Triplets: Forced Asian Stereotypes 👲👲👲

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

I wish there was more multiple birth representation in the media that wasn't just we are the exact same or opposite.

[@KnucklesxReala911]

On live action I feel should be .ore worked on since is actors, but I can understand why is more easily playing them as samesies or polar opposites in cartoons, since depending the show, the art style already might make everyone look already too look alike, but if the art style is different, making them just slightly different could confuse the viewers as if they aren't sure if are twins or just too similar looking siblings

[@TonyTurner]

That would be so interesting‼ They made the triplets different in the reboot, but only showed them for like 15 secs

[@Caddance]

Honestly yeah. I played Sacred Stones recently and it just hit it is the only piece of media I have ever consumed where the twins don’t look the same at all outside of hair and eye color (and even then it’s not the same, Ephraim’s hair is slightly more green than Eirika’s teal) Gravity Falls technically counts since Mabel and Diper only look very similar thanks to same face syndrome. But I really cannot think of any other twins that look completely different from each other

[@devoteeofmediocrity821]

No lie, people with siblings are the most oppressed group in media.

[@Archimedes-v2o]

As a triplet I agree

[@SimBits]

Dang for a show that was supposed to be geared towards breaking stereotypes and celebrating black culture, it sure did the exact opposite ALL THE TIME

[@Coolname-bd1pq]

I don’t really care bc almost every single person in this world is racist to one another now a days

[@bearlyastar]

@@Coolname-bd1pq what an odd generalization

[@Coolname-bd1pq]

@@bearlyastar ikr

[@ilovewritingessays2017]

@@Coolname-bd1pq idk if im reading too much into your response, but if you meant what I think you were trying to do, you are an actual genius lmfao

[@polari7658]

What do you mean “nowadays”? It had only ever been worse. Before racism, it was nationalism, and before that, it was tribalism. Africans have been brutalized for hundreds of years. Tf you mean “nowadays”?😂

[@alexa42490]

A valid thought I had was that they are only referred to as “The Chang Triplets.” They were never addressed by their individual names.

[@TonyTurner]

True‼

[@SaltynSassy31]

Tbh, that happens to me, who's a twin but white, a lot 😭😭 Every time someone wanted to mention me, they'd say "on of the twins" "Oh the twins!" Etc etc If you weren't close with us, I rarely got addressed as my actual name, I'd always be joined with my sister Felt a little, like.....idk the right word, but a little upsetting XD So it might also be them being triplets ontop of them being Asian too

[@victoriabell9546]

@@SaltynSassy31 Same would apply to me, but I'm also a triplet as well. When I was in middle school and high school, when people referred to me, they would refer to me and my brothers as a unit, but never individually. The only time we were individually called by our names was in extracurricular activities because we all did different things.

[@SaltynSassy31]

@@victoriabell9546 me and my twin are both interested on the same things, go to the same class and internship So, unfortunately, we never beating the twin allegations like this 😭😭😭 vary rarely are we referred to as individuals lmao

[@victoriabell9546]

@@SaltynSassy31 Yeah, my brothers and I went to the same schools for undergrad, graduated from community college and we had to have the person announcing us call us Triplets for relationship purposes.

[@Bliquexshi]

Ironically, in updating the Chang Triplets' design, they also updated the...questionable tropes. Asians in media (particularly women) are often given dyed hair, which can be used to express "look at THIS Asian person, they're not like all the other meek, nerdy Asians, they're exotic and individualistic!" It also carries the implication that straight black hair is boring and needs to be changed in order to look appealing/attractive to anyone. That said, it does make canonical sense in this situation since as triplets, they might have a desire to stand out from each other visually, even if only to get others to stop mixing them up. Plus, Debbie does have un-dyed hair, so I'll give the reboot a pass on this one.

[@TonyTurner]

I mentioned this but edited it out. That's a good point ‼

[@ali773n]

A lot of people dye their hair. I don’t see that as them trying to make them more interesting.

[@ethanwinters1469]

Actually a majority of people mostly young adults and teen dye their hair

[@Bliquexshi]

Re:comments, I'm specifically talking about Asians in media and how their portrayal sends messages. That is, when Asian characters have straight black hair, the characters also often happen to be nerdy, quiet, good at kung-fu, have strict parents, etc (original Proud Family is a pretty good example of what I mean). When they have dyed hair, the character is often spunky, rebellious, "breaking Asian stereotypes", etc (though this mainly applies to female Asian characters since they're seen as particularly "opposite" of all those traits). Isolated, this isn't a bad thing and is even good visual storytelling, but in context, when so many Asian characters are treated the same way the few times they actually appear in Western media (GoGo Tamago, Juniper Lee, Jake Long, Miko Nakadai, Knives Chau, Akima Kunimoto, etc.), it kinda feels..."Are you trying to say something about Asian hair...?" It's like the "she's not like other girls" trope, or the "she becomes beautiful after removing her glasses and smoothing out her curly hair" trope. Done a few times is fine. Done so often that it becomes a trope is like, "What are you saying about women in glasses...? What are you saying about curly hair?" I haven't personally met many Asians who have dyed their hair, but I don't doubt it's very common. What's also very common is smart Asian kids with strict parents. Nearly every Asian person I know, including me, my brother, my mom, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. are quiet Asians who got straight As all throughout school, as were nearly all of my Asian classmates. In that sense, the Chang Triplets being smart isn't "stereotypical", it's just "reflecting real life". And yet, Asians being smart is still a stereotype. It can be a stereotype while simultaneously reflecting real life. Dijonay is a good example - she was created because everyone knows a Dijonay in their life. But that doesn't mean there aren't issues with the fact that her character portrayal is...a little problematic. And like I said, I don't have an issue with the Chang Triplets having dyed hair because there are in-universe reasons that make sense, so weighed against the overused "dyed Asian hair" trope, I feel like in this case it's reasonable and not necessarily done with subconscious bias from the creators. It's just that when media portrayals of Asian characters are kinda just repeating the same few personalities and traits over and over, Asians like me who are always looking out for representation start side-eyeing the creators just a little more and more each time. On a side note, Jade from Jackie Chan Adventures was my favorite character growing up because she looked like me but was still adventurous and fun. :D

[@BenHopkins1000]

Yeah, not everyone has to look like a walking anime reference

[@FunFilmFare]

As an Asian I think the Chang triplets are probably the biggest improvement of the reboot 👍👍. Especially when they called out Penny for reinforcing Asian stereotypes 😆

[@TonyTurner]

It's like the new writers were making fun of the older show 😅

[@Ducklolly]

One of the only good parts of the reboot

[@sohanarahaman8070]

Yep, I can agree

[@dr.cocobuthumanized6134]

And then they goes "black can't be racist" 💀

[@antoniocarlosoliveira9146]

But the messed it up when oenny said " black people cant be racist".

[@Neku628]

Maybe there should be a video about negative vs positive stereotypes in the Proud Family and how damaging both are.

[@J-RS21]

They would probably do that wrong

[@ashleywatts888]

They are gonna mess it up like they did the colorism episode 🥲.

[@battybuddy]

@@ashleywatts888 like I said with that, they didn’t address the fact that Penny and Trudy are lighter skinned and seen in a better light then characters like Oscar and Sugar Mama.

[@yunidai16]

In a philosophy class I took, I learned something along the lines of "everything bad has good qualities, and everything good does not have bad qualities". It turns out that the good quality that isn't bad is existence itself. This is why we have star ratings from 1-5, and scale ratings from 1-10. Subtract 1 from both sides of each scale, and the real spectrums are present. 0-4 stars, and 0-9 in terms of approval.

[@AlwaysM0ndayy]

You know they would fuck it up. BADLY.

[@goliathtigerfishes]

I am asian and have a learning disability. I had to find out about it with my own doctors and I hide it from my family and most people because the shame of not being a "perfect and smart asian" exists.

[@Chelsea_journey1]

I’m half Asian and suffered the same thing. Sadly my family shamed me for it but the jokes on them because I ended up being a million times better than them. I hope you’re doing better now in life.

[@sohanarahaman8070]

Same

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Yeah unfortunately it’s like a taboo thing I’m pretty sure

[@uwa_ta2258]

Which is why the “model minority” myth sucks. When Asians are stereotyped to be the “good minority” and “extremely hardworking and smart”, asians who struggle with disadvantages (e.g Disabilities, poverty, racism) do not get the support they need. They fall through the cracks.

[@abandonedchannel]

i feel that shame fr!!!!

[@ANT-ej8ob]

Theory: Is Dijonay AWARE that she’s a stereotype? Is she one of those people that think that all people expect from her is a stereotype or is she using stereotypes to cover up her genuinely bad personality? is this a case of internalized racism? Or is she a sociopath?

[@battybuddy]

Dijonay had about as much self reflection as she has good episodes.

[@Idkanymorelol.]

@@battybuddy LOL

[@Attmay]

She's the friend they deserve.

[@MechaShadowV2]

to be fair, there ARE people like her, i've met them. i only think its problematic if they had multiple people like her.

[@IamtheSpy2005]

She might just be Riley from the Boondocks, like how he tries to be “gangsta”, she tries to be dramatic.

[@sparxstreak02]

6:28 The harm of the smart Asian stereotype was actually explored in the 80s-90s book series the Babysitters Club where a Japanese American girl Claudia Kishi was gifted in art rather than maths or science but also had an older sister Janine who was academically gifted, so felt pressure from her parents to be the same way rather than them just accepting her for the gifts she did have.

[@JAM13XxX]

@@sparxstreak02 Oh yeah, I remember that, I didn’t read the 80s-90s BUT I read the reboot ones, theres graphic novels, I know there a book focus on Claudia and Janine and their relationship and struggles

[@thespookycore4344]

Here's my general ramblings as a Japanese American who likes history. For those who don't know about the model minority myth, in short it's the stereotype that all asians are super smart, hard working, very polite, etc. In theory this doesn't sound like a bad thing especially in comparison to stereotypes that are derogatory. However historically these stereotypes have been used against other minorities, including black people and other immigrant communities. If you want a better explanation you should look it up but it boils down to "well this person is a minority and a they had success, so their success stems from them being asian and you're failure is because of [insert race here] and not because you are a minority". I'm remembering this from that top of my head but early 20th century this rhetoric was used to pit asian americans against black americans against each other and further to maintain the status quo. Sorry if this was a bad explanation but I thought it was relevant to what you were talking about with stereotypes especially seeing as this was a predominantly black written show. Been binging your videos recently, like your work and your cat.

[@hermescarraro3393]

This stuff was, and Is, damaging to asians too... Positive stereotipes like these put a lot of pressure on many people. The Moment they slip out of those definitions they are immediately crushed, either by outsiders or members of their own comunity...

[@thespookycore4344]

@@hermescarraro3393 I knew I was forgetting something aka the thing that effects me the most

[@ruriva4931]

Historically at least, I think Asian community had a hand in creating that myth so they would be lumped into “negro” spaces during segregation in a system that really didn’t acknowledge the existence of more than two races. There was definitely some conscious effort to distinguish a”yellow race” that was different from the “black race” and position it closer to the “white race” which held the power in America.

[@yammyhoy]

this is exactly what came to mind during the video, thank you for sharing because the model minority myth is so overlooked when it comes to the topic of asian americans and interracial relations within the US. it also implants such a terrible ego problem in many asian people that evolves into straight racism within our respective communities also

[@sussybaka119]

😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴

[@jamthatruth4174]

3:06 “instead of hip hopping around the room you need to hop hop on these books” got it broooo 😭

[@fuzzylittlespider]

I do think that the buck teeth was definitely one step to far and the designers should've know better even back then. I remember watching the show as a kid and I did recognize that they went really hard in the Asian stereotypes. But I was a kid and didn't think it was a problem or a bad thing back then. And yikes re-watching the triplets do that dance number made me cringe so hard!

[@spudbuttowski]

I'll just say this in defense of the original Chang triplets. I don't really think you could call those buck teeth (to me they're not that big.) But even if they are I don't think it was a race thing. They're supposed to be like 12 or 13 years old. Kids most of the time don't have the best looking teeth, I had buck teeth growing up (and even Zoey has braces) They're dad on the other hand had perfectly straight teeth. If his were also buck then it would be more of an issue. Also I think the dance number is cringe just because it's cringe and not because of stereotypes. Are you telling me that in 2023 you can't see a group of Asian-American preteens mixing a beat like for a TikTok? I certainly can. Just like how a bunch of Japanese-American women wear anime costumes and stuff on the internet. And black people might sample some traditional African drums for one of their tracks. I guess the question really is what's the difference between being a stereotype and being super into your own heritage? If a black guy chooses to wear dashikis everyday is he making himself a stereotype? Is an Asian American not allowed to want to be a mangaka for their career? Can someone of native American descent not want to commune with nature? I'm just saying that stereotypes are always so clear-cut. They were most likely a lot of Asian Americans who grew up in the same manner as the original Chang triplets. Do we just erase their representation because it's a little more muddy than the trails of today's youth.

[@prixe12]

​@@spudbuttowskiThe issue once again is the they are the only Asian characters on the show. When you only have one group of a separate culture and make them all look and act the same then there's an issue. Why can't one of the triplets be an underachiever and not get the best grades? Why do all three of them have to be into karate? Why can't one be into boxing or something? It's very rare for siblings to like all the same things and to have the same hobbies even if they are triplets. Was it so hard to make them into individuals instead of being copy pastes of the same person three times?

[@spudbuttowski]

@@prixe12 Actually yes. Any twin set of twins that aren't main characters are just gonna be a copy/paste of each other. Look at Phil and Lil from Rugrats, they're exactly the same one just had a bow. Jessica and Janis from Suit life of Zack and Cody. They had basically no personality, you can't tell them apart. And as for their clothes idk about you but I wasn't allowed to pick out my own stuff at 12-13 so it might just stem from the parents going "oh they're twins, let's get them all the same stuff." You have to keep in mind the context of the episodes. They all weren't just "into karate" EVERYONE WAS. The episode was about how a new martial arts movie came out and it made all the kids in the neighborhood want to learn karate. So with that context in mind are the Chang triplets not allowed to be hyped about the movie with everyone else? Because ironically people are complaining about the plot point that makes them normal kids. Also they had a tiger parent soooo one of them being an underachiever most likely wouldn't fly but it would have made for good drama. But also they're not the main characters or even secondary characters so a storyline like that wouldn't even be possible. I wasn't saying that the og Chang triplets were the best characters ever I'm merely pointing out that they do represent a large number of the Asian American population. So I asked if it was fair to takeaway representation for some people just to give it to others. The guy in the video said "Why did the change triplets have to eat with chopsticks and do karate?" "Why couldn't they be normal kids?" I'm asking why do they only become "normal kids" when they strip away pieces of their cultural identity?

[@jerm-gv9rv]

⁠@@spudbuttowskithey’re supposed to be interpreted that way because it’s the ONLY teeth they bother animating So it’s meant to be their most prominent, why are you looking for ways to misrepresent Also thinking racism is “cringe” Doesn’t make you any more rational It just makes you more racist If your issue with racism isn’t the racism itself that NOT GOOD Yes the dance number is racist their entire concept was to be Asian stereotypes and nothing else that’s their “joke” Trying to claim it’s anything other than racism is trying to downplay it and that’s just as bad as being racist

[@jerm-gv9rv]

⁠@@spudbuttowski except they aren’t “into their heritage” Are you serious right now ASIAN…is NOT an actual background and is merely white people grouping an entire continent of different unrelated cultures together Following very ignorant stereotypes of your ethnic group is NOT embracing heritage wtf Is said black person following ANYTHING else of their actual culture Or are they simply wearing an extremely recognizable symbol or reference of said culture for amusement of people NOT of that culture… Ignorant caricatures that white people and Americans created is NOT their representation Even people who’s lives has sterotypical elements are still different and unique because it’s their personal life and circumstances PEOPLE ARE NOT STEREOTYPES…stereotypes Are ASSUMPTIONS and expectations based on the people they’re targeting People themselves are NOT the stereotype

[@nameisamine]

I think this can lead to a wider conversation about the ignorance we often see perpetuated by black people towards the Asian community. I’ve heard black people say things about Asians most white people wouldn’t dare say. 😅

[@TonyTurner]

That could be it's own video ‼👀

[@FunFilmFare]

“White people wouldn’t dare say” until COVID-19

[@maddigotnojams1964]

Fr, as a black woman I can say that people who say “bLaCk PpL cAnT bE rAcIsT” have never heard the way some black people talk about Asian people. 😬

[@battybuddy]

@@maddigotnojams1964 I always complain that the people who say that seem to think there are only two races “white” and “other”

[@klutzmtg2310]

@@maddigotnojams1964Well they say “black people can’t be racist” because they are usually a racist black person trying to justify their hateful rhetoric.

[@throwaway-e7i]

big agree on everything! the rebooted designs are amazing but my only pet peeve with them in the rebooted version was seeing their only speaking lines mentioning the model minority myth which lead to penny saying black people can't be racist which just... never gets touched on again it felt so out of left field especially KNOWING the triplet's og designs and roles. it's minimal in the scope of things i guess but it felt like a step forward and a weird 2 steps back.

[@EternalStorm796]

I feel like that was especially forced. The triplets always seemed to be on friendly mutual grounds with Penny in original to be the point of somewhat being a secondary friend group. They should have expanded on them more...

[@amandaford8730]

Honestly there could be an entire conversation about anti-Asian racism amongst black people through The Proud Family reconciling with the shows problematic choices but as others have mentioned they would have messed that up too! 😭

[@bunnyrabi]

​@@EternalStorm796oh no, I remember clearly the original and they were basically like the enemies of penny and her group of friends. Always trying to have a leg up on penny. However you are right, they alwats wanted to be invited to the cool things penny got to be a part of ,but penny would be like "ew begone geeks". So when they were able to get to those things anyway via family connections, they would reasonable throw it in penny's face.

[@KhayJayArt]

​@@amandaford8730the showrunners can't even stop being colorist with their Black characters, so they would have definitely fucked up the topic of anti Asian racism.

[@EternalStorm796]

@bunnyrabi Tbh, I think I only remember episodes where they're on decent terms. Mainly the karate episode. Lol

[@whatlikeitshardd]

I wonder if the Asian people you overheard were speaking in korean. The word 네가 means “you” and is written like “neh-gah” but the first syllable is usually pronounced like “ni-“ so it ends up sounding like…… well I’m not about to type that out lol Love you channel, been watching for a few months ❤

[@ChubuPeng]

it also exists in chinese, which yea unfortunately does sound like that word

[@SueSinSun]

@@ChubuPeng yeah, I was about to say! I’m Chinese and the word for ‘that’ (like, that box or that truck or that building etc) sounds like the n word and I sometimes find myself changing the way I word my sentences to avoid use the word ‘that’ when I see people who are non Asian around me to avoid misunderstandings

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

@@SueSinSun There's a joke video where a guy is reading google translate an that word shows up an then a black man appears beside him an drags away his body lol

[@saltflavrdsoda0]

i just got to that part of the video and immediately came to the comments to see if anyone said this

[@pbnjams]

I’m Asian. When I was a kid, whenever the Chang triplets came up on screen, my big brother would turn off the tv. Didn’t know why until I got older. On one hand, I love Proud Family. On the other, now that I understand what was being said, it feels kinda bad?

[@TonyTurner]

Yeah, they had many great moments but looking back it had problematic elements as well.

[@everydaymarvin2490]

You are knocking it out of the park here lately. Yeah the chang triplets were definitely made to be very stereotypical, and I am glad they updated them in the reboot. I believe that stereotypes can have an impact on how others see a certain group of people for sure. Keep up the good work! 😊

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@FunFilmFare]

Pretty much. Even positive stereotypes can have negative consequences.

[@jakebadger2574]

The story from 13:05 in Korean "Niga" means "you". Also, there's likely a multitude of innocent words in lots of languages that coincidently sound like slurs.

[@ErieRosewood]

if they were speaking Korean that's a very good point. but I don't know of many multilinguals who will switch languages just to say "you" to someone.

[@pink-roses-and-scarlet-skies]

@@ErieRosewood They were probably speaking a blend of English and Korean. You've heard people speak Spanglish, right? It's the same thing.

[@finland4ever55]

​@@pink-roses-and-scarlet-skiesor filipinos they do the same thing

[@Smoothbrain-nvrm]

@@pink-roses-and-scarlet-skies people in Spanish trying to say the color black without getting cancelled 😟

[@Amarianee]

​@@ErieRosewood I literally know hundreds of multilinguals who switch to Spanish or Tagalog just to say inconsequential words like "you" "the" and especially with regards to Spanish "and," and "but." Not saying that was the case here, because we only know the one word he heard, and nothing else of the sentences, but it's not an uncommon thing.

[@xoxojustno6971]

Great vid~ I love it that they call Penny racist for asking them to be on the school debate team when literally less than 2 months ago (before everyone hit puberty and changed overnight) their entire personality was "we want good grades, we'll do anything for good grades"😅 lol I was like excuse Penny for thinking yall might want to

[@battybuddy]

“How DARE you think there’s any consistency to our characters…”

[@MechaShadowV2]

yeah, as bad as the "black people can't be racist" was.... she actually had a reason to ask them.

[@Pokeasi]

As a Triplet myself I find it really cool to see our representation in media~ Tho, my sisters and I aren't identical. We may be African American but I still think it's super super cool

[@maggie6305]

As an Asian born and raised in ghetto parts of NYC, I knew a lot of Asian friends that regularly used "nigga", but it's never actually used to refer to a black person exclusively. It's always used to refer to literally anyone of any demographic, usually males. I say it's definitely a cultural influence from the black/hispanic communities that we grew up with.

[@maggie6305]

Also to break the stereotype, I was god awful in math and had like 60% attendance rate...

[@sardonicus1739]

I'd also like to point out that if any of them are from Korea there is a common word in their language that americans mistake for the N word all the time. The word "naega" sounds just like the N word in the way it's pronounced but just means "I" in their language and at times can be said like "uhm" is in our own language. They also have “nikka” (“니까”), a conjunction, along with “niga” (“니가”) which is the informal way of saying "you" in english. So basically if it's Koreans being talked about they have a whole host of words that sound like they're saying the n--g-a slang.

[@lunasummer9375]

@@sardonicus1739 thank you im scrooling through here trying to find anyone else who knew this

[@onlycows726]

lmao that's funny

[@zigggs5372]

It happens here in Long Beach CA the Asians say it here too I think it’s funny because I call them the exact same thing I never take offense to nigga considering I’m Black

[@Rutawind]

Good input on how even "positive" stereotypes can be harmful. Ngl, I liked the original incarnation of the Chang triplets. They were stereotypes, but they had entertaining interactions with the rest of the cast. I also understand why they were problematic and had to be re-imagined. It's similar to how people view the Rush Hour films, funny but in poor taste. The original series is very much a product of its time. With that said, there was other less stereotypical asian representation in the og show with the character Kwok, who was written far more subtly, but he only appeared in one episode.

[@TonyTurner]

Yup I remember it seemed liked they tried to give Kwok a sort of urban swag but then they made his parents so traditional that they didn't want him and Penny to be friends anymore.

[@pusheenqueen519]

​@@TonyTurner Yeah and even when he showed up after, he was a background character who basically got forgotten. I wish the episode had maybe been more about the issues that come from the traditionally conservative parents who want children to know their culture vs their kids with more modern "western" mindsets who want to fit in and see American culture as theirs because that's what they grew up with. (I think it's implied/maybe stated Kwok's parents are immigrants) Just seemed like the character was a wasted opportunity.

[@Rutawind]

@@TonyTurner I liked how it was illustrated to the viewer through the episode's conflict that Kwok was of a different cultural background instead of having it underscored every time he appeared on screen with shit like shamisen music and displays of intelligence like the Chang triplets. I'll never forget the scene where Penny's parents meet Kwok's and the overt use of the word "racist" in a kid's cartoon. Great demonstration of how cultural differences clash and can lead to misunderstandings. That whole episode had some of the best writing in the series. Kwok reminds me a lot of a classmate I had in undergrad who emigrated from Tibet to the US early in childhood, same urban swagger and everything lol

[@kymo6343]

Pretty sure triplets would be extra rare w Asian ppl? My auntie who had twins once had her Chinese neighbor come over and give her a rice cooker bc he said in his country if someone has twins you give them a gift bc it's lucky. So if you have triplets dang what you get then! XD

[@help1054]

Asian twins are not rare. Research the "one child only policy" in China. She was probably telling them to be grateful their family won't have to go through that

[@Bliquexshi]

Since ancient times, twins have been considered lucky (auspicious), and male/female twins in particular are considered extremely auspicious, being called dragon-phoenix children. Children in general are considered blessings (bao, which means "precious" or "treasure", is a common way to call babies/children), so having triplets I would assume is also considered lucky (though a dragon-phoenix pair is still considered The Best). Quadruplets maybe not so much though, since four is considered inauspicious.

[@aqualinebutbetter]

​@@help1054 I thought twins and triplets were considered one child in China while the policy was still in place?

[@kymo6343]

@@Bliquexshi Good to know! My aunt had identical twin boys btw. I think as long as they're healthy they're lucky enough tho! XD

[@RebekkaJones]

*with *people *because

[@Sclasspsycho]

My younger siblings are Asian (adopted) and I really appreciate you talking about these misrepresentations in kids media. It really helps us remember what we were exposed to and what we need to strive to do better at with representations of other cultures in our stories. Thank you for your amazing thoughtfulness! ❤

[@geardog24]

It would be nice to have the rebooted Chang triplets hang out with Penny, just so she would see what it’s like to have real friends.

[@BaybeeBella-kk5ww]

As a Blasian I have mixed feelings lmao. I wish the proud family reboot had better writers I've been watching your other videos and there's so much potential

[@ADZ_CatznArt]

I’m Filipino, I would get top grades and whenever I got lower grades, my parents didn’t get mad at me. I did. I had that kind of, expectation for myself in the past so I think that the strict Asian parent trope is indeed harmful.

[@bunnyrabi]

I am black but spent a huge chunk of my pre-teen to adult life in Chinese community and in China. I speak Chinese fluently too. I also major in Asian Studies. So let me give some of my understandings. So first of all, Asian Americans(born in America) and Asians in Asia are completely different. Asian Americans often grow up with little understanding of their parents culture and their end up speaking their parents native tounge quite poorly. I am often complimented for having better Chinese than lots of parent's children , but that's because unlike these Chinese Americans I spent a lot of time in China. So that's my first point, Asians who are born in America lack most of the stereotypes that is expected of Asian Immigrants. I want to emphasize this is more so the case for modern Asian Americans. Asian Americans in the past still had strong ties to their culture even though born in America, that was probably because back then there was more extreme racism towards Asians so it was hard for these Asian Americans to assimilate in white America. Now, It is true however that for modern day Asian Americans their parents most of the time push them to achieve, but it's definitely no where near the amount of effort that is forced upon children in Asia. The often phrase you hear from parents in Asia is "I regret not letting my child have a good childhood". Which is extremely sad. Now as for the cultural stereotypes , like the Chang triplets learning karate and their uncle being the sensei. That is extremely unlikely if their last name is Chang which is Chinese, karate is a Japanese martial arts and their is still strong feud between China and Japan that only worsen the farther you go back into the past. So no, it would be impossible for their uncle to teach karate if he is Chinese. Now if he was Japanese that would mean the father married a Japanese woman. Which is possible. America unfortunately has an extremely poor understanding of the differences of Asian cultures, and to make it worse Asian Americans also tend to have a poor understanding of the same thing. I perform Chinese folk dance, and I promise you most Chinese Americans would have no idea what the dances I do are even called, heck they may not even know are from China... Overall through saying all these things, Asian America is all over the place. There are tons of misunderstanding and poor representation of an actual Asian American. It's quite unfortunate because most Asian Americans I have met are often assimilated either into white communities or black communities. However, the last thing I want to mention, ever since Asian media really became less of a niche in the west and more part of mainstream, the pride of being Asian has started to really resurface in the west. So these days you seeing more of a "return to the roots of origin" type of movements going on in Asian Communities in America. Where kids feel proud speaking their parents native tounge, having unique non-American lunches at school and just overall feeling proud to be who they are. I feel a lot of these things can relate to Black America in quite a few ways.

[@Benjamin-mj9pd]

To anyone who is interested. Karate is specifically an Okinawan style martial art brought to mainland Japan that got really popular after a magazine published an article of Motobu Chōki defeated an unnamed foreign boxer in 1922. Then more popular in 1945 onwards when Americans who were stationed there learned it and brought it home which is a tradition that continues to this day. Obviously Kung fu cinema had a hand in it but that’s another story.

[@bunnybird9342]

@@Benjamin-mj9pd Ryukyu is a separate indigenous culture that got colonized by Japan starting in the late 1800s. Japan still tries to erase their culture, insists the Ryukyuan languages are "dialects", and refuses to acknowledge they're a separate ethnicity. Basically, they're Japanese in the same exact way Hawaiians are American.

[@Benjamin-mj9pd]

@@bunnybird9342 interesting point.

[@colleencrews9739]

My husband is Asian. I showed him the design update, and he said, "Did they really give them bleached hair?" And "WHY are they drinking MILK?!" He was mostly upset about the gross negligence of showing them consuming dairy, more than anything else.

[@RiveroftheWither]

You're going to need to state what country hes from because many Asian countries and Asian Americans drink milk. There is no one big homogeneous Asian culture. As for bleaching hair, its pretty common in South Korea and Japan.

[@MadameSomnambule]

@@RiveroftheWither I'm also curious. All I know is that there's a higher percentage of lactose intolerant folks in countries outside of Europe and North America on average, though there ARE notable dairy based dishes in Japan that I know of. Cream stew is one I know of that was introduced as an attempt to increase vitamin d intake in kids.

[@bunnybird9342]

Asian people didn't traditionally consume dairy, but they have been doing it more in the recent decades due to globalization. I'm pretty sure Asian diaspora consume dairy much more, however (like me and my family).

[@guccishades3383]

Kiwi comes in lookin at the camera all like "who u talking to bro?" 🤣

[@TonyTurner]

Its hilarious when she just pops up. She must hear me talking loud from the other room 😅

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

Old men writing for (mostly) young teen girls aspect probably influenced the Dijonay heel dig more than anything. Updating the triplets made sense to them, they're not a group of Asian writers, they can listen a little easier to optics. But Dijonay? They are sure they _knew_ that girl, they are sure they _know_ that girl, and they are sure it's _fine_ to boost _that_ girl and get a bit touchy if it's pointed out to be doing any amount of harm. After all, there's truth in the depiction, isn't there? They would know, right? They're neglecting the fact that this is not the same as _the audience_ knowing that girl and not the same as the _audience_ being on the same page about the gag being funny. Dijonay is representing something they're familiar with and feel comfortable being playful with at the expense of every person who might outwardly have any of the character's traits, they aren't nearly as comfortable with being playful with a culture they're not a part of. They have half the identity of Dijonay and live alongside any Dijonay-esque girl making them think they've got her down, but don't have the insight into girls they think are like her to write her properly nuanced since they're not a black teen girl. Damage done to multi-dimensional human beings who they have boiled Dijonay's "ratchet" behavior down from isn't being considered because they literally don't have the information and forget that.

[@yanrokbowl28]

In the original series, they're so similar to the point of having the same voice actress (Lydia Look) In Louder and Prouder, Look reprises her role as Julie, whereas Debbie gets a separate actress (Haley Tju), and Billy gets a male actor (Miyachi), to help put emphasis on Billy's voice going through puberty, and to give Debbie more vocal distinction from Julie.

[@weeping.angel27]

Great work on this video. Keep up the good work. The whole "Asians look alike" is weird to me. You can tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, etc. Oh, I laugh at the Monique meme when she said "you're a dummy, b!tch!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TonyTurner]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@thedeliveryboy1123]

I'm an Asian and even then i have a hard time telling East Asians (specifically older Asians that I don't go to school with) apart. I believe it happens when people spend less time around Asians so its harder to tell the difference. edit: whenever I see people say "you look the same" it feels like an admission/confession that they haven't been around a lot of Asian people to know a difference. It helps to laugh right back at them

[@oblitusunum6979]

I've gotten a lot better at telling Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans subtle differences but that's only after living with them for four years. Even then it isn't perfect

[@simsgirlgem]

You could tell when the Chang triplets were coming on screen because of the racist Chinese melody

[@ingloriousMachina]

There are FOUR sets of twins at my preschool. One set is identical and NOT ONE set of them are opposites or the same.

[@RagamuffinBabyDoll]

Shout out to Debbie’s line in the reboot: “You can take your model minority myth somewhere else.” That is an underrated line worth talking about

[@astrozombieandfitch5020]

the way their name is Chang (obv Chinese) and they gave them the teeth of a World War 2 anti Japanese cartoon 💀

[@daviejz6698]

That stereotype is a lot older than Hollywood itself and isn’t exclusive to just Japanese.

[@hubertberrum6242]

@@daviejz6698yeah it used in comics from the 19th century for chinese men

[@Randy-u2t]

​​@@hubertberrum6242 Chang Triplets are chinese but idk why wiki states they are korean

[@hubertberrum6242]

@@Randy-u2t yeah me neither

[@flintfoster8010]

And if one of the triplets is a male, that would confirm the triplets aren't identical, right? So the fact that they're identical could be implicit bias from the writers when making them all look exactly the same despite them being fraternal

[@nayynizz2660]

As a person who was raised in the hood, I have seen many Asian families push their children in a sense so they don’t “lose their values” or “become Americanized” so yes, the being hard on them and pressuring them is accurate. Even in Asian countries the percentage of “sue go hide” is very high. But the Chang triplets branching out and getting older is a result of environmental influence. The show is to be stereotyped because when it was first made no one looked too deeply into stereotypes. As for Dejonay? (Don’t remember the spelling) she is as you put (more ratchet) because she is in her own environment where she didn’t need to change she fit in (the triplets had to) A person changes and adapts to what they see and the triplets are in a predominantly black (or American) school so that can happen that they branch off and do their own thing (environmental influence or becoming Americanized) As kids ( the triplets) were always together because they understood each other and probably didn’t make many friends if you see the way they dressed, how they were always studying, always striving, how could they fit in, in reality as messed up as it sounds that was a very accurate depiction ESPECIALLY BACK THEN. Now I’m not saying that always happened but I’ve seen it multiple times 2001 was WAAAAY different than it is now with accepting people. And honestly the way the triplets changed that’s more likely the result of growing up where they did as well, (Which I have also seen) I LOVE YOUR OBSERVATIONS ON THIS THOUGH!!!! You keep analyzing ❤❤❤

[@hyewonderfull]

I'm kind of not a fan of the new design. They went from stereotypical Chinese to stereotypical Korean.

[@Earl_Dioxazine]

That’s what I was thinking! When I saw the reboot designs, I was thinking all the while, ‘Why do they look like those wannabe K-Pop stans? Bleh. They make Orochimaru seem angelic.’

[@thedeliveryboy1123]

It could've led to a cool episode where the Chang triplets felt embarrassed about being Chinese and began taking inspiration from Japanese and Korean media instead

[@wanderingpenguin6705]

Sub earned, love that you are spreading awareness about Asian stereotypes, it ain’t talked about enough.

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@shanereignz8662]

Now that im looking back at it, that was messed up. A minority writer reinforcing sterotypes of other minorities. The music, the accents whoa.

[@maxpokebruh27]

Bruh the type of cartoonish exaggeration that the Proud Family has is so egregious. When it comes to the stereotypes of their characters, it's so obnoxious and over the top while other cartoons back had at least a tiny bit of restraint.

[@gooberbyleth7063]

Im so glad you talked about this The reboot is still heavily racist By implying black on asian hate crimes dont reallh counc as racism

[@MrEmpoleon2010]

If there’s a season 3, it would cool to give the triplets their own episode.

[@TonyTurner]

That would be real interesting to see

[@RaptinDinon-mn4ps]

I'll be frank, I forgot about these characters. Guess it's about time to rewatch the show. Glad to have found your channel.

[@MatsuyoRific]

The sad thing is that the reboot doesn't even use them. They only appear once, and it was just for the reboot to say "don't worry, we're not forcing this one stereotype anymore"

[@TonyTurner]

Exactly‼ it felt like a last minute decision

[@rubbydraco1334]

The situation of two people sitting next to smart one for answers just to realize they are both fools is so funny😂

[@TonyTurner]

We both failed that test with flying colors 😅

[@battybuddy]

Honestly, the Chang triplets were sort of cringe, but at the same time, they weren’t really prominent enough to be much other then a stereotype joke, and given characters like Dijonay who WAS prominent they kind of could be blown off as such.

[@battybuddy]

That said, I haven’t seen it, but it’s kind of ironic them talking about stereotyping them when that was the deal with them.

[@DocKrazy]

I'm sorry I know your story about the math exam in college was about implicit bias because of stereotypes, but it just sounded so wholesome to me Student solidarity be like

[@greenleopard49]

I think it would be great to have a spin off show based on the Chang Triplets and have Asian writers in charge of writing the stories.

[@b.h.7983]

Bottom line is: If you want to avoid stereotypes at all (at least from what i've learned) use some nuance and respect in your character writing. not everyone is ALL good or bad (though people seem to lean at least more towards either one side, but even then it's to varying degrees). Asians are people too as they are multi-faceted and have their own eccentricities, short-comings, and blessings. Great work here, bud! :)

[@teaveekid]

As someone who just started getting into this show (I was born after it came out) you are the best! Thanks for making these videos😊

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@okami-chan9772]

To be honest I love the new design for the triplets in the reboot because I completely forgotten they're old design in the original.

[@jensendavenport1406]

Alright tony you on a roll

[@SOULarLioness]

I'm still catching up on your videos and I'm REALLY enjoying your Proud Family series! Your video essays and reflections/discussions are TOP TIER!

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@KiwiLuvsPieOfficial]

As an Asian person I wish the Triplets got more screen time in the reboot. Their new personalities could’ve been developed on.

[@SpicyPlur]

First time listener cant wait to watch more! Great insight to the triples, especially with the comparison to the Gross sisters

[@Neo-Najarin]

They were characters? I thought they were more like props.

[@jadacampbell9331]

Which says a lot about why they had to storylines in the reboot or lines hardly 🤔

[@anthonyrivera4547]

kiwi got me done lmao, shaking up the cam come on kiwi!

[@TonyTurner]

She wanted to see who I was talking to 😹

[@pikachick222]

London Tipton and Claudia Kishi were the least stereotypical Asian characters

[@GiftedSince92GiftedSince92]

Great video bro! The Chang triplets are nice characters in the series. I agree on Asian stereotypes because their culture is versatile. The Chang triplets are intelligent, humor, open-minded and disciplined. I feel their overachiever in school mentality was a bit too much. It made them seemed snobby acting towards their peers. I love their new character design. They're more creatively diverse. Keep up the amazing work!!!

[@KhayJayArt]

They changed the triplets bc they aren't Asian so they knew they wouldn't get away with having racist Asian stereotypes. They kept the Black stereotypes bc theyre Black and they can therefore gey away with stereotyping their own people.

[@LoopyDreamz775]

That’s a horrible mindset that we as black people need to squash immediately, black people pushing out stereotypes about their own is still bad as well, just look at how black Women are portrayed in norbit and many Tyler parry movies? It’s gross

[@imnottellingyoumyname411]

12:24 I'm not sure which language it was (I think it was Korean), but I'm pretty sure that just means 'you' lol

[@paolotorres8537]

They took the Ducktales 2017 approach with the triplets.

[@hinatashouyou2790]

Your videos are really well done, thought out, and its really nice watching your analysis on these things! Its nice seeing how you did your best to approach the topic, and even if there were things you knew but didnt know the name for it (pointing out the asian “music/flute” trope is called oriental music) and I really appreciate the effort put into conveying and discussing these things.

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@windego999]

Remember folks, everyone is different. Society might teach you to expect people to behave a certain way but it's always up to the individual person how they want to act. I also don't get why they keep doubling down on making Dijonay the worst person and friend in both shows. It's like no one in the main crew is allowed to have lasting character development ever.

[@SimBits]

Because she has the darkest skin and the writers are crazy colorist 😭

[@katarinadreams6955]

I swear when I was in highschool, every Asian student played tennis

[@cheyennetricks9757]

I’d also like to add that making the triplets look completely alike to the point where you couldn’t tell the boy from the girls could also be the stereotype of how Asian males look like girls, which is very much an terrible stereotype made to emasculate Asian men.

[@goodnightgoodnightgoodnight]

honestly its very refreshing to hear someone talk about this because asian racist portrayals in cartoons + media are very often overlooked because the stereotypes are "positive" or "not that bad". thank you for this video

[@sarahthomas8670]

I agree. Getting good grades is a good thing but seeing all Asian people are the same is very dehumanising and wrong. They can have many different traits. Very western look on Asian

[@goodnightgoodnightgoodnight]

@@sarahthomas8670 not to mention that the asians being smart stereotype sets expectations really high, and can negatively impact anyone that doesn't meet these unfair expectations. my mother was asian growing up in america and was harshly bullied for favoring sports over academics. no stereotype is a good one.

[@sarahthomas8670]

@@goodnightgoodnightgoodnightexactly, Expecting someone to have good grades bc of the race is crazy. If they don’t meet that stereotype they gonna be judge or attack or a lot of pressure on them which can lead to mental illness and so on

[@jasonortega2077]

More consistent we appreciate Tony ❤

[@LJXrot]

I rlly love this video, within the black community (at least in my experience when I went to ANYONE) it’s a huge HUGE problem with putting stereotypes on them when speaking, calling them the c word for no reason, making fun of their eyes ect ect. I’m happy I never grew UP seeing that up untill 3 years ago I started noticing them, maybe I ignored them and didn’t pick it up as a little kid but I never had this pre-conceived notion that they were this or that. It really broke my heart when hearing the c word being used on a random Asian guy by my dad. Even though both Asian and black people have damn near the same struggles, we seem kinda divided😭

[@yourlocalartistithink9535]

These were very good observations, you pointed out some very interesting things that were involved within the topic!

[@sapphic.flower]

I really liked Kwok from the series even though his first appearance also centered around a stereotypical conflict for Asian characters (parents controlling their kid's future). But besides that, it was nice to see an Asian character who was charismatic and had interests that weren't academics or... piano or violin lol. So it's upsetting the Chang triplets are really only ever the stereotype and didn't even have discernable identities or designs from each other. It's cool seeing their designs changed later in the reboot though!

[@Butterfly-m5v]

I’m a new subscriber! But damn I really love how you call the stereotypes out! Every single video you made about the proud family reboot opened my eyes! Especially the ones about the gross sisters and Zoey!

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@NicoleBrinker875]

I'm not Asian, but I feel like there was pressure on me to be the brain in my family- like the next one to go to college, the main to do something with my life so I won't get caught up with the wrong crowd, not to clown around or be disrespectful in school, etc.

[@hiddenflare6169]

Never heard of this, now that I do know now.... I can't tell if this being the same branch of a company that made 'American Dragon: Jake Long" makes this funnier or just very questionable... I would be curious how those two fandoms feel about the Asian representation between these two shows.

[@willShakespeare-n5g]

dijonay and the gross sisters did not get any changes but they knew that Asian people will get offended so this is why they changed it but when it's for black people that have darker skin it turns out they thought that black people would not analyze the stereotype Now The Proud Family reboot is getting so much controversy they have to do something about it to change the stereotypes about dijonay character and her personality including the gross sisters of course I think they were trying to be Multicultural so this is why they're trying to expose Asian culture and the same time to try to be diverse probably did not know how to represent Asian culture they should have done some research and they should have balance over the stereotypes that were not all true Now it's a good thing that us as black people we start to notice these stereotypes and was starting to be more aware and focusing how they are portrayed these characters of course by these black creators something tells me they want to please the public add these stereotypes but now I have a super mindset to know about the stereotypes so everyone is aware everyone can analyze the stereotypes how does it impact black people so now they should do some changes if they want to do season 3

[@ariahjames4340]

I also think that they didn't alter Dijonay and the Gross Sisters because of how prevalent they were in the original show. People would notice it more, so they kept their designs the same.

[@ChrisDragon531]

Personally, I've always thought stereotyping was dumb, not everyone fits into them no matter their race or gender or sexual orientation or anything else really. I've seen some of my friends suffer because of them, believing they have to be something they're not just to be accepted. (I had a friend who thought he was supposed to be gay because "every other guy at my company is gay" but he learned that he was in fact Straight) When I was in high school, I suffered from stereotyping as well. "You are Italian but you're NOT loud and DON'T have relatives in the mob?" (apparently all italians are loud and have family in the mob... although lot of my relatives are loud haha) "You are a girl, but you DON'T LIKE make up, impressing boys, and shopping?" (apparently all girls are supposed to like make up, impressing boys, and shopping...) "You're a girl, but you LIKE and are GOOD AT video games?" (Apparently, girls don't like or play video games....) "You're a tomboy, but you're NOT a lesbian?" (apparently tomboys, are automatically lesbians..., joke's on them, I'm not attracted to anyone) "You're a girl, but you DON'T GET SCARED of horror movies?" (I was fearless even as a toddler according to my grandpa, in fact I LOVE spooky stuff and Halloween is my favorite Holiday...) "You 're white and you DO LIKE pumpkin spice?" (Yes I do like pumpkin spice, any flavors that celebrate the seasons and holidays I enjoy! This goes for every season and holiday and not just Autumn and Pumpkin Spice) When I got to college, that was when I learned that people are allowed to be different than what is expected of them. Even when I was teaching kids in Japan, English they were all different. Some kids were loud and rude, some kids were shy and quiet, some of them were better at art and music and not good at math and science, some enjoyed learning while others struggled at it. Although Japan (I'm not saying all Asian countries because I only have experiences in Japan), does spend more money on Education than anything else, good schools, good teachers, children get lunches at school, they even have classes for special needs kids (I taught a couple of them, those kids are honesty the sweetest kids I've taught

[@serenitysfirefly]

7:27 Wife of an Japanese person here; the triplets using chopsticks to eat would be a positive representative feature. We have chopsticks in our house and I use them pretty much every other day. It would be cool for our future kids to see characters using the same cultural utensils as we do at home. But if you're talking about "chopsticks" in the hair, hair sticks are definitely non-offensive as well! My mother-in-law uses hairsticks for casual updos all the time. I've tried them a couple times myself, but I'm Puerto Rican and it just gets lost/tangled in my curls. 😂 Hope this clarified things!

[@phillinsogood]

Crazy how this show and films we grew up on had so many stereotypes. Also as a new KZbinr how do add subtitles? Do you use a website, type it or let the KZbin studio do it for you?

[@MrSophire]

I didn’t like the Proud Family because the stereotypes, the fact the Simpson’s, King of the Hill and many other shows did a better job at showcasing Asians representation.

[@TonyTurner]

I usually let KZbin do it for me and let the viewer choose if they want to see them

[@phillinsogood]

@@TonyTurner ooooh I see I will try that. Also love your videos they are so good to watch and have discussions. Can you do a video on cultural appropriation in music?

[@finland4ever55]

​@@MrSophireeven tho Simpsons has yellow asians.... although most of the characters are yellow. Can't say the same about South park and family guy which are just offensive shows that insult everyone and they get a pass when a kids show wouldnt.

[@anthonylarajr8892]

B is better work harder. I had strict Muslim step dad (school teacher) So there was bit high expectations for better grades on English writing, history

[@MrDp115]

Ok now i want to hear your thoughts on Trudy

[@TonyTurner]

I did a video about her a few months ago but I think I'm gonna make an updated one soon

[@RagingCompassionYhwhis1]

I don’t disagree… I think the creators could have used your insight, and perhaps they are naïve with a side of cap. Yeah they didn’t care to try. (If it wasn’t for TOOOONE- EEEE UUUUUHHHUH) thanks for the food for thought ❤

[@soniplayboi8418]

As an Asian, this shit is funny ong bruh

[@TonyTurner]

😅😅😅

[@the-nina-beans88]

Growing up I’ve always wondered why my school lack in diversity. Yeah basically my school was nothing but white kids. Heck I was kinda jealous of cartoon character like Rugrats and hey Arnold for having cool friends like Gerald, Phoebe, Susie and Kimi.

[@finland4ever55]

Depends on where you live. Lots of places aren't very diverse and you'll have only or mainly one race or nationality. You live in the Philippines, you'll have mainly if not only Filipinos.

[@Kaipiewith3nines]

The proud family is literally a universe where all streotypes are true

[@sarahthomas8670]

Fr

[@0CrimsonTeeX]

As an Asian who can’t do math for shit and still keeps getting classmates asking to do there homework, I say what the hell is this show tryna accomplish

[@alexismyers6053]

Having grown up with late 90’s and early 2000’s shows and in an uber white area (like, so white, my one friend would get so happy and excited when she saw non-white people walking around), I wonder if the bad stereotyping has to do with not knowing anything about other cultures outside of tv. The only non-white person I knew up until I was in like kindergarten or the first grade (and then they student was taken out of school and I didn’t meet another until high school) was the black Jamaican man my grandma married when I was a little girl. Like, this guy was the only black person I knew, to the point that when my mom went to the local hospital to pick up a deceased person (she worked for a funeral home at the time) and I saw a black man, I ran up to him and hugged him saying how much I loved “my Georgie” until I looked up and realized he wasn’t George. (That dude probably talked about “the little white girl who thought I was some other black guy” for a while lol) all I knew about other cultures back then was whatever I saw in tv. Which wasn’t always positive. In fact, there was so little representation of other cultures, I didn’t even know some of them existed until I grew up and realized how big the world is. I had no idea what Muslims were and I thought the Jewish people all died in WW2. If it weren’t for Dora the Explorer and Go Diego Go, I probably wouldn’t have even known Latin-Americans and Hispanics were a separate people from white people and black people. But now, we have the ability to talk to people on the other side of the world in an instant. We have vast knowledge at our finger tips and in our pockets. And so many people get into animation from watching anime- a form of media originating in Japan, an Asian country, which often takes place in Japan and depicts Japanese life. And with all that knowledge we have access to, we can see other Asian media and see how they portray their own cultures. We’re able to see how different cultures see themselves and what they really mean/value. I like that 2 of the triplets seem to have dyed their hair. My mom has a friend she went to high school with who married and Asian woman and they live in Tokyo. He told me that the thing in Japan is, while many Americans admire Asian beauty, many Japanese people also admire wester beauty and try to change their look to match them, some even having plastic surgery on their eyes to make them rounder. It’s also seen as a form of silent rebellion in many Asian cultures for children to dye their hair, while the children themselves see it as separating themselves from something else- in this case, taking back their own identity from just being one of the Chang Triplets. As for Dijonay’s character, I wonder if she’s supposed to be Penny’s opposite and the both of them are to be what black parents can point to and say “be more like X, see how bad Y is? You don’t want to be like Y, right?” Like when someone points to the garbage man or janitor and says “study hard so you don’t end up like him.” Penny is kind and intelligent while Dijonay is more obsessed with status, boys, and material things. And she often helps get Penny into trouble. They also both have different shades of pigmentation, where Penny is like 1 step away from being a white girl with a darker complexion and Dijanay is very dark. Now, I know there are different shakes of skin tone with every race, but when you look at the other black characters, the darker their complexion the less likable they seem to be. Dijanay, Oscar, and Sugar Mama are all darker and they aren’t exactly the characters you want to turn to for comfort when you’re having a difficult day. Meanwhile, Penny and Trudy are lighter and are supposed to be the voices of reason and kindness- Penny hits the mark, Trudy… not so much, not with her parenting style. So I think they might be some internal biases the creators have about their own culture. Like how Christians, Catholics, and Protestants worship the same God just in different ways and some of them judge each other for it. The original creators made a strawman with Dijanay, making it seem like she chooses to be a “ghetto hood rat” by not really diving into WHY she’s like that. It’s often stated she has many siblings, so her family probably lives in a place many consider “ghetto” just to be able to afford it because they keep having kids, which is expensive as heck. Meanwhile, Penny lives in an upper class, multicultural neighborhood. They’ve had different upbringings, so of course they would act differently. Dijanay probably doesn’t get a lot of things that are only hers and probably has to share with her siblings a lot, which is why she’s so material about things. She wants things that are for only her that she doesn’t have to share with anyone. She also probably isn’t very academically gifted and thinks her only hope of getting out of the life she was raised in if by marrying a good man. And she probably feels like she’s a bottom priority to her parents being that she’s older and more capable of caring for herself, unlike many of her siblings, which is why she’s obsessed with status, she wants to feel important and get attention however she can get it. But rather than exploring that and giving kids in similar situations hope to be a better person, they just crap on her for some reason and turn her into such an unlikable character. I think she’s meant to be a warning of what not to be, but for some reason they don’t explain how you can get yourself out of a situation similar to hers- which is sad because regardless of race and status, kids should be taught how to pull themselves out of places of hardship and/or poverty. Dijanay COULD be a “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” kind of character arc, but for whatever reason, they choose not to do that.

[@hachiiiiko707]

off topic, your cat is ADORABLE and i love ur m&m's cups :D

[@TonyTurner]

Thank You ‼

[@unfairstorm6418]

Tony back at it again with another banger! I showed this one to my partner who’s first gen Asian American Vietnamese specifically and I was like what do you think of this ? He thought it was funny asf and that it’s crazy these goofy ass stereotypes are still used cus they aren’t very accurate at all in his opinion.

[@everyxheart]

2001 was a different time! I watched this show all the time when I was 12-13, but I never noticed the stereotypes.

[@itsjustani324]

lol ima go ahead and subscribe. i’ve been here all week

[@TonyTurner]

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[@Roxanna_Lux]

Not you and that girl trying to cheat off each other in college 😆✋

[@TonyTurner]

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[@Secret-jg1bk]

Actually, that "n" word that the group of Asians were using is a Korean word that translates to the English word "you"😅 They were possibly Korean

[@sonicandtoadettefan6523]

2:06 i mean, the yellow ish skin tone and kinda slanted eyes are natural asian features tho, but some do use tools to mwle eyes appear bigger tho

[@nicolesherman8974]

Hey Tony, love the shirt as always 🔥🔥❗️❗️

[@TonyTurner]

Thanks‼🔥

[@unfairstorm6418]

12:52 he also understands where you’re coming from with this and he’s glad that you brought up cultural, relevance, and upbringing. He said growing up in Houston Texas. He was like the only Asian kid there and to him and his friends growing up. It was just normal, and there was not really a judgment or issue or offense taken. It was just another day you know what I mean?

[@williamswonderland3636]

12:35 I hered some where on KZbin that's actually Chinese for "you" but I don't know if they were using it to say "you" or not because I wasn't there

[@kikitv2097]

The music that Chang triplets were dancing to, I sworn I heard that music before. I think they used it in a scene in a show called Food Paradise. Where they showing some Asian cuisine.😂😂😂