The Cheapest 6 Seater Plane Cessna 210

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MojoGrip

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@mojogrip
@mojogrip 4 жыл бұрын
This same pilot spent less than $7,000 on his first plane, a Grumman here kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJrVoJ2YqNdqgK8. Would you buy a fixer upper airplane?
@Heisrisen237
@Heisrisen237 4 жыл бұрын
No, It looks like a money pit, but I'm not an expert.
@charlescoleman2307
@charlescoleman2307 4 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely would!!!
@richardwylie07
@richardwylie07 4 жыл бұрын
Looks perfect. You need to look past the flakey paint and terrible interior. As Mike says, if it’s structurally sound, it’s a great platform to start from. For about $50-60K USD, it would become good as new.
@Skiridr22
@Skiridr22 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 7 miles frm a aviation school on Long Island NY, thanks to you I’m thinking of taking flight lessons, a friend of the family brother just earned his wings.
@edwinbest9256
@edwinbest9256 4 жыл бұрын
I owned and flew a 1974 210L for more than 10 years. Great bird for traveling the southeast and the islands. Missed it every day since we sold it!
@azspotfree
@azspotfree 4 жыл бұрын
I'll bet that old 210 has at least one more trip left in it for a purchase price of 35k. Alabama to Columbia and back maybe. Pulling all the seats out of it is a start
@nephisilver3051
@nephisilver3051 3 жыл бұрын
LOL HA HA HA HA
@tonylam9548
@tonylam9548 3 жыл бұрын
Not anymore, you are out of date, the US gov. have seamless coverage by radar all around southern US. You need stealth and terrain following capability to get through. That is why the cartel switched to semi subs .
@johnyank1872
@johnyank1872 8 ай бұрын
or you could walk across the border
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA
@GeneralSirDouglasMcA 4 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve been told, a lot of times it a actually costs more in the long run to buy a cheap, fixer-upper aircraft versus paying more for one that’s in good condition.
@BStrambo
@BStrambo 4 жыл бұрын
It definitely can, especially if you aren't an A&P. Engine overhaul is $20-$30K, paint up to $20k, interior probably $5k-$8k and panel (this one looks solid though) can be anything from minor $2k to $50k for a full upgrade. It would be easy to sink $60-$90k in this bird at retail rates.
@davem5333
@davem5333 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing more expensive than a cheap boat is a cheap airplane. A glance at that nose strut, it is an early 1960s version. Parts can be expensive and hard to find. One really needs to be an A&P to be able to do the work. May be better off shopping for a already nice one.
@josephc.9520
@josephc.9520 3 жыл бұрын
@@BStrambo Still cheaper than a good condition 210
@Troyboy2121
@Troyboy2121 4 жыл бұрын
The AD issued by the FAA for wing spar corrosion issued could cost an additional $43,500 to repair and a minimum of $2,000 to impact.
@derheeheehee6941
@derheeheehee6941 4 жыл бұрын
Check the wing spar AD for corrosion. If the previous owner didn't fly it once a week, I would be wary of the powerplant.
@treyodaniel5838
@treyodaniel5838 4 жыл бұрын
LOL does it look like he flew it once a week.... that thing is clapped out and a serious money pit
@derheeheehee6941
@derheeheehee6941 4 жыл бұрын
@@treyodaniel5838 I'll bet the cam and lifters are pitted and spalled beyond redemption, and I'll bet the spar and spar blocks are corroded beyond redemption. My 172 is a money pit, but at least having my AP/IA helps offset the buckets and buckets of money required lol.
@rickjason215
@rickjason215 4 жыл бұрын
@@derheeheehee6941 They all are money pits. People always think owning a plane will cost a certain amount and they are always wrong. It always costs way more.
@tariqghuman
@tariqghuman 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike love your videos and can’t wait to see you start flying the Mojosling! I do have a request...could you adjust the opacity of MOJOGRIP watermark on your videos so it doesn’t read “MOJO RIP...a bit scary honestly...stay safe budd!
@robmorgan1012
@robmorgan1012 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos for a couple years maybe 3 years now Always like how you’re telling people to get out there and start flying I subscribed and I liked your video for you never thought about it
@federicofernandez1361
@federicofernandez1361 4 жыл бұрын
Once you go through it and it’s log books up to date And a really good “ Cessna shop “ annual Remember it’s you and your family in it
@gwiz2073
@gwiz2073 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mojo, interesting story here. I am taking lessons at French Valley. This 210 sat 3 rows behind the 172 we rent at EFI flight school. It was in bad shape sitting on 3 flat tires. I checked the N number and with a little computer work I had the owners phone number, I called her but got her son on the phone who wouldn't pass the phone to mom, sounded like an adult son. Anyway I gave up on it, kinda a weird deal. Nice to see it's getting the love it deserves. I believe it is a 1967 model? Take care MJ. Maybe I'll see you around F70 sometime.
@CharlieTribbey
@CharlieTribbey 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had one, I had some time in it with him. Great plane! Used to fly down to Baja all the time in it.
@Skiridr22
@Skiridr22 4 жыл бұрын
Mike I’m inspired and proud with every episode, I love your dedication and passion for flying for the fact that’s how it all started with one person passion we can now see travel beyond boarders.
@tonyInPA
@tonyInPA 4 жыл бұрын
Fixing up cars as a hobby taught me that...unless you're fortunate and a little lucky...the most expensive Mercedes you can buy is a cheap one! Hope this is an exception and ends up fine- but a long period of outdoor storage is not an airplanes friend! Lots of gremlins that may be waiting to be awaken from their slumber. Gyros, radios, and all kinds of connections. And yes if not already done Please check that carry through spar!
@c21delta94
@c21delta94 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my I love this plane! The 206 with fixed gear is sunning as well. I love this video, thx for posting this Mike. The color scheme on your Sling TSi is extraordinary.
@snuffy1pro
@snuffy1pro 3 жыл бұрын
The Cessna 210 is one of the best flying "SUV" class planes ever made. It is also one of the most maintenance heavy planes as well. Many have said in the comments correctly it IS a money pit. Even Richard "Dick" Collins (RIP) said not to get one unless you have the financial muscle to keep it flying.... But if you do, and let's just assume the new owner does... What an airplane!!!! I would get one in a heart beat... buuuuut I love my house more than the plane so still shopping... Cheers! And to answer Mojo's question, yes. I did the exact same thing as the 210 owner to get my wings... bought the old bird and fixed her up. The Cessna 172 was old and beat up but flew well and got me my PPL in 7 1/2 months.
@snuffy1pro
@snuffy1pro 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike Kabakov It's a design issue, mainly with the landing gear. It's a very big heavy plane, the gear, "goose legs", was not a very great design. They require a lot to maintain. Not all gear is the same, Piper arrow or Mooney gear is pretty bullet proof. Next is the great big giant engine needed to power this big bird. Big engine, means big maint. tag. Look at a Mooney over haul vs a 210 overhaul.. Big diff.
@kevinbachand1970
@kevinbachand1970 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I really enjoyed this video, it’s very well done and technically accurate. I’ve been researching 210’s as of late and everything you said is spot on. My buddy recently purchased an airworthy PA-28 Warrior for $3000, yes it needed some TLC but he is an A&P so it didn’t take much to get it current. Good job, keep the videos coming!
@Bellringercameron
@Bellringercameron 3 жыл бұрын
I love ur Chanel I love aviation and planes and stuff aswell
@flyboy98
@flyboy98 4 жыл бұрын
Trust me as someone who has bought a fixer, it can bleed you dry. The one way to 'win' is to do it yourself under supervision of an A&P. But part prices are becoming a REAL concern.
@senseofstile
@senseofstile 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a video of two guys that bought one of those Cessna 210's. They put a bigger fuel tank on and flew it across the Atlantic.
@larryblanks6765
@larryblanks6765 Жыл бұрын
It's only a deal if the AD is done on the center wing spar. If not, you're looking at $15,000 to $20,000 more cause it has too have it or it's not airworthy.
@tjsteele513
@tjsteele513 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel dude.. You’re calm, clear and very informative.. I’ve been watching a 310 that’s been parked at my local GA airport for several years locked in by motorhomes and trailers.. Going there this weekend to see if I can find out who owns it..
@hansuhlig8565
@hansuhlig8565 4 жыл бұрын
OK, can't hold back (I have that exact year/model). If you can find one that did not got abused, you will have a fine machine on your hand. Remember this IS a high performance complex aircraft. A big step up from a FG plane you may fly (My previous plane was a 177FG). This is a retractable with the "leaf-spring" main. The gear has never failed me, but the doors are the cause of problems. Make sure you have one with the original piano hinges still in place. That tells you that the previous owner did not drop the gear at 160kts to slow the plane down (do you drop full flaps at max cruise???). The main terminal in the nose wheel (provide power to all the micro switches) should be looked after. Nutshell, if there is a problem with the gear its electric or you did not check hydraulic fluid at (every) pre-flight! There IS a handpump if everything fails. Gear-up landing, 99% pilot error. Wing-Spar AD, there was ONE incident in Australia where a highly modified, low flying, surveillance 210 lost a wing. Go read the accident report before commenting. The 210 is like the AMG G-Model, takes anything and its FAST. It's actually affordable to maintain if it's not a turbo like the one in the Vid. I fly mine 2-3 times a week. Love it! Again, it's a high-performance complex plane. The one in the Vid... needs some TLC and at that low entry (if the Spar is good) could be a money maker. The wings look worrisome though, to many wet grease spots around the inspection plates. Note, planes don't rust (Steel does), it's called corrosion (aluminum).
@tiggerable
@tiggerable 4 жыл бұрын
I love to see them in this condition, just fix all the technical stuff, blank respray and that's it. Love that aged patina look! Note: I'm just a virtual pilot that likes old stuff.
@BStrambo
@BStrambo 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is it isn't a car, you can't work on it yourself. Have to hire an A&P for everything!
@OperatorBayArea77788
@OperatorBayArea77788 4 жыл бұрын
Mike tell people hang gliding and paragliding is one the best super affordable way to fly
@svp2587
@svp2587 4 жыл бұрын
amazing thing is this plane flew saturday, it is a shame when someone neglects a plane like this.
@klinzy
@klinzy 3 жыл бұрын
The owner died and the wife didn't fly, that is also why it was so cheap.
@KoreyConstable
@KoreyConstable 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you can leave the paint like that but it is perfect the way it is.
@gmonnig
@gmonnig 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t walk, run from that money pit! $35k that needs $100k of TLC.
@rachel704
@rachel704 4 жыл бұрын
That looks like a fixed gear 206
@svp2587
@svp2587 4 жыл бұрын
this is the older version retract with the panel doors on the sides where the wheel goes
@rafiqsaid4297
@rafiqsaid4297 4 жыл бұрын
indeed looks like a fixed gear but it really is retractable. its a Cessna T210G build in 1967. What important is, is not the painting but the state of corrosion . with the strut less Cessnas like 177 and 210 one of the important things is the carry through spar. It connects the left and right wings together and because its a strut less wing the forces on it are high. It can suffer of fatique and corrosion problems. Look the owner knows what he is doing as the sky upholstery is taken away so the carrythrough spar can be checked
@duncandmcgrath6290
@duncandmcgrath6290 4 жыл бұрын
The old “too slow six”
@MalcolmRuthven
@MalcolmRuthven 4 жыл бұрын
@@rafiqsaid4297 Correct, it's a retractable T (for turbocharged) 210G. Many years ago I owned T210G N6865R, just a few registration numbers away from this one. It was a great traveling machine and I loved the turbo out here in the mountainous west. However, as I recall, the 5th and 6th seats in this model were quite small, really for kids. For a full 6-seater 210, you have to go for a few (or several, can't remember) model years newer.
@davem5333
@davem5333 3 жыл бұрын
@@rafiqsaid4297 And recently the FAA just issued an AD on the wing carry-through. Don't recall if the 210 is on the list but it might be prudent to check it anyway.
@mojo7618
@mojo7618 4 жыл бұрын
Respect from another Mojo
@duncandmcgrath6290
@duncandmcgrath6290 4 жыл бұрын
Love when the RG models show up at my AMO . New owners just can’t believe how cheap they got it without a pre- purchase inspection..... that’s a hard no .
@Johnwayne1968
@Johnwayne1968 4 жыл бұрын
The 1967 Cessna stop building the 210 with no Wing struts build up moisture around the wing root causing deadly rust
@Jolly-Josh
@Jolly-Josh 4 жыл бұрын
Money pit that one
@darrenfadrigon3919
@darrenfadrigon3919 4 жыл бұрын
Woah. After putting together my sons backyard 150. I feel like I can restore that Mike . Haha . Man only if my sons are old enough . That’s a great deal.
@robertdmoore2592
@robertdmoore2592 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this one looks expensive! Maintenance wise that is, I'm not sure what's going on in those wings but it looks like fuel leaks to me, I agree with what several people have committed about, corrosion would be a hugh concern for me, airplanes aren't designed to sit without some kind of maintenance. We had an old badly kept and maintained Baron come in one day for sqk and the first thing out of my manager was " just fix this one part and don't look at the rest" I almost walked down to the FSDO office! Just an example: the bottom of the wings were stained from the spars to the trailing edges, the elevator trim accuraters mount nut plates were stripped so there turned a bit and large wood screws were screwed straight into the spar!!😳, the only thing that stopped the gear was the CB popping at both ends of travel!😳😳😳
@FlyingWildAZ
@FlyingWildAZ 4 жыл бұрын
This plane was featured in my documentary series Abandoned Airplanes, SoCal episode. It was located at French Valley, CA. I wonder if the purchase was a result of watching the documentary.
@bladenrexroth2555
@bladenrexroth2555 4 жыл бұрын
It's a candidate for a robinson LS3 upgrade. Sand blasted, new paint scheme, upgraded electronics and interior.
@MultiTUCKER20
@MultiTUCKER20 4 жыл бұрын
A 150000 dollar fix 🤣 make friends who are a&p mechanics or even IA’s lol it’ll save you money
@claysilk
@claysilk 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you do a fallow up after it's fully refabed
@johnfitzpatrick2469
@johnfitzpatrick2469 4 жыл бұрын
G,day Mojo Mike from Sydney, Australia. * that's the 210 without wing struts: may need wing separation and visual inspection for fatigue cracking at next annual. * the prop is near new * I have concern for surface control cables and corner pulleys. * check steam gauges for calibration and accuracy. * upgrade ADSB radar nav? Other than that: light the tyres, kick the fires. 🦙💰📈
@davidpierce9330
@davidpierce9330 4 жыл бұрын
Pry got it at the local junkyard would be my first guess...
@mattgeans3758
@mattgeans3758 4 жыл бұрын
Is this in Fallbrook where you are flying off your first 40 in MojoSling?
@jeandedieu3859
@jeandedieu3859 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, loves your work. I have one question in my mind, what are the procedure to turn for example a Cessna 210 for cargo use, removing all the backseats. Will you need a recertification ?
@maliamatlali2898
@maliamatlali2898 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see the end product, and how much it eventually cost to complete.
@travismeils865
@travismeils865 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like it did go flying yesterday 😳 (flight aware).... It’s not retractable gear (at least the rear wheels are not.?.?) Good luck to the new owner and nice video mojogrip!
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Retractable gear: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3zFgHWto9WgrsU
@carlwilliams1570
@carlwilliams1570 3 жыл бұрын
Man that thing would scare me. Next annual could find problems that will cost half what you paid for it! Experimental/home built for me!
@DavidCaissy
@DavidCaissy 4 жыл бұрын
How many hours on the engine and the propeller? They have a huge impact on both the purchase and maintenance costs...
@sanalzam1
@sanalzam1 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel.
@jonathanmcphail5254
@jonathanmcphail5254 4 жыл бұрын
Bud, I love the content you are putting out there but this video makes me nervous. The 210 was on my short list. But it was quickly removed after doing a little research (ended up going with the Debonair). The only thing I see affordable about that aircraft is the purchase price. The wing spar AD on the 210 could potentially total a huge portion of the entire fleet. Aside from that, the landing gear is a nightmare. Google “Cessna 210 gear saddle.” You will come up with two take aways. First “AD requires them to be replaced every 1,000 hours.” Second “Nobody makes the replacement.” This is far from an affordable aircraft.
@jamesvelvet3612
@jamesvelvet3612 4 жыл бұрын
Affordable and "aircraft" .....funny stuff ;-)
@BStrambo
@BStrambo 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvelvet3612 They can be as affordable as bass boats and RVs, but they need to be simpler fixed gear and naturally aspirated. Lower purchase prices, lower fuel burn, lower maintenance costs. I'm looking to buy my 1st plane in the next couple years, ~$40k purchase price and $12k-ish per year should cover up to 100hrs per year of flying including fuel, hangar, maintenance and insurance.
@jamesvelvet3612
@jamesvelvet3612 4 жыл бұрын
@@BStrambo Bass boats don't cost $40K and require $12k /year in maintenance/operating costs. Suggesting that a certified aircraft that isn't older than you can be operated for the same costs as a bass boat speaks volumes about your airplane ownership experience ;-) This 210 will eat at least 5k/year just in the annual inspection!
@BStrambo
@BStrambo 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvelvet3612 I wasn’t talking about this 210!
@NateVolk
@NateVolk 4 жыл бұрын
You should probably dig more into the ADs you are mentioning, not all gear saddles need to be replaced. I suppose that is why the video makes you nervous, pure misinformation....
@gregholt
@gregholt 3 жыл бұрын
Love the 210. I'd love to fine a cheap one and do it up. But gee wiz, a bit of a risk. Especially if you don't know what you're doing. Flying is so expensive, but I don't care, wanna do it anyway. Half the battle is getting the idea past the wife. I told her I'll drive a shitty car forever if I can have a plane. Love your videos Mike. Best wishes from Australia.
@MoonLight-zu6zc
@MoonLight-zu6zc 4 жыл бұрын
That plane has 'Experimental' written all over it
@simpletube31
@simpletube31 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Can you explain?
@CarlosRodriguez-hw3nt
@CarlosRodriguez-hw3nt 4 жыл бұрын
Only one small little detail, FAA says wings might fall off.
@210Driver
@210Driver 4 жыл бұрын
210s are awesome, but I'm biased
@480pilot
@480pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Love the 210!!
@ralphd7051
@ralphd7051 3 жыл бұрын
I would buy a "fixer upper" Type Certified used airplane. Provided it came w/airframe, powerplant, and propeller logbooks. I would prefer if airplane was home to a dry region. Ralph D Orlando, FL
@georgestewart4285
@georgestewart4285 4 жыл бұрын
If I paid people to find deals like this I would never find them!!!
@leefithian3704
@leefithian3704 4 жыл бұрын
Well , if you have enough buddies with a little dough , you can all fix it up to build them hours in something nice , for a little as a shared project
@Johnwayne1968
@Johnwayne1968 4 жыл бұрын
The Cessna 210 has been known to shed Wings in flight thoroughly inspect
@ralphd7051
@ralphd7051 3 жыл бұрын
See F.A.A. AD issued w/effective date 3/9/20. This was due to "carry-thru spar failure resulting in wing separation in flight of a T210M. IRAN-Inspect and repair as necessary including Eddy current inspection required by the AD. Ralph - Orlando FL A&P Licensed.
@BxCortez2050
@BxCortez2050 4 жыл бұрын
I went to my Intro Discover flight ..and the Plane looked damn near like this ...I nearly gave up my dream of learning to fly ... but the Groupon was already activated so ......
@Dudeisthere
@Dudeisthere 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Mike, but by making this video youre actually proving the point that aviation is expensive and airplane ownership inaccesible. This piece of junk still goes for 35k, the corrosion in the interior (and where else?), maybe the wing spar has to be replaced (30k right there), engine that had to be fixed, and the full paintjob which is going to be in the five figures as well. I would never buy an aircraft that has been sitting for a long time and looks like this because no matter how cheap the price, there is always going to be more to fix and with the way aviation is every little repair will run you into the thousands. This is not even considering hangar space or annual maintenance which is probably not going to be cheap for this aircraft either.
@flexairz
@flexairz 4 жыл бұрын
Now thats common sense and fact knowledge.
@BxCortez2050
@BxCortez2050 4 жыл бұрын
if i close my eyes ..I would have thought you were talking about buying a boat ( imma a boat guy looking at another way of throwing away my money ..lol )
@cpy
@cpy 4 жыл бұрын
I'd agree. I would make this purchase if I really wanted to have the plane my way (new interior how I like, new exterior how I like, full engine tear down, etc). If you were going to do that anyways, then better to find one a little rougher. Also agree this shape can be hiding more problems.
@Dudeisthere
@Dudeisthere 4 жыл бұрын
@@BxCortez2050 I know where youre coming from, i spent most of my money on car racing before i got into aviation and did my pilots license. Friends shaking their heads, family sometimes not pleased, but what are we gonna do? Cant seem to get over expensive hobbies, just too much fun haha
@Dudeisthere
@Dudeisthere 4 жыл бұрын
@@cpy To be honest the only way id feel comfortable in that plane is after a full restoration anyways. But my guess is cost for that would be north of 400k at that point and a very long time to get all spare parts and work done. If i had that kind of money id probably just buy a 5 year old SR22 or DA40 and call it a day, but then again i dont really have the need for 6 seats either.
@chris1seto
@chris1seto 4 жыл бұрын
This airplane is the exact opposite of affordable. There is nothing more expensive a pilot can do than buy a cheap airplane. Every bill this airplane encounters will be massive. Problems will create more problems and it will be a huge money pit over any reasonable period of time. If you are getting into aviation and can't afford a more reasonable airplane, buying something like this would be the absolute worst move you could ever make. The worst part about airplanes like this is that by the time you've actually made nice (or even safe!) would could have just bought an airplane in good condition and saved yourself the stress and risk of refurbishing an airplane like this.
@algeriasolitaryman3662
@algeriasolitaryman3662 4 жыл бұрын
Cool are plane🇩🇿🇩🇿👍👍
@Mike4444x
@Mike4444x 3 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect drug running plane.
@tonylam9548
@tonylam9548 3 жыл бұрын
most people that spent just $35,000 on such a plane will ended up spending well over $100,000 in a couple of years.
@visibilityunlimitedmedia
@visibilityunlimitedmedia 4 жыл бұрын
What’s up with your Sling Mike? Is the tank repaired?
@mojogrip
@mojogrip 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Follow @mojogrip on instagram to see updates.
@visibilityunlimitedmedia
@visibilityunlimitedmedia 4 жыл бұрын
@@mojogrip Congratulations Mike. You must have been smiling the whole trip back home.
@lewiscalderon3118
@lewiscalderon3118 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for one guide me to find one please?????
@Scott_Hauck
@Scott_Hauck 4 жыл бұрын
don’t forge about the possible spar ad
@jamescaley9942
@jamescaley9942 4 жыл бұрын
Would have thought the avionics would be worth more than the airframe. How can anyone be confident an airframe that old is ever safe?
@classicraceruk1337
@classicraceruk1337 4 жыл бұрын
They are going to fly in that!!!!
@Oferb553
@Oferb553 4 жыл бұрын
They need parachutes. I will not be surprised if this rust bucket will break up in the air.
@classicraceruk1337
@classicraceruk1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oferb553 I would not go in it even on the ground
@joselitobonus788
@joselitobonus788 3 жыл бұрын
The landing gear was set to a fixed gear.
@avrukin
@avrukin 4 жыл бұрын
Oh c'mon, this thing needs $30k of work easy! If not more. The engine, even if it starts up, would likely need to be overhauled, rust is a huge issue, you need new paint, you can't fly it without paint. You need a new interior, etc... If you get it for $35k, you just got yourself a piece of metal, you'll need way more money to make it airworthy.
@jamesmiller7911
@jamesmiller7911 4 жыл бұрын
I understand what you're saying, but 210 prices are very high. IF it doesn't have any corrosion issues, I can see someone with the time and especially the money fixing it up.
@avrukin
@avrukin 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmiller7911 That's exactly the point - time and MONEY. He claims that "hey, you can buy this plane for $35k! What a find!" but in truth its a big lie, you can't actually fly it for that money. Sure, sum total if you have the money, the $35k on purchase + $50k on full repair is less than a working 210, but that's still not "cheap". I think its a very deceptive argument to make to claim that you'll be all in to this for $35k and it just needs "a little TLC". He called the corrosion issue, who knows what's going on with the spar, if there is corrosion on the floor, chances are the spar has a problem too, which means this thing is probably fully grounded. I'm annoyed at the dishonesty of this presentation.
@davem5333
@davem5333 3 жыл бұрын
The engine alone could take $25,000. If it needs a full overhaul, $35 large easy. Awesome? I would be more inclined to say "awful".
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 4 жыл бұрын
If there's that much corrosion/oxidation that can be seen on the cabin interior, there's more throughout the rest of the airframe. There is far-more to this "bargain" than new exterior paint. And, being a certified aircraft, there is only so-much an owner can do to bring a hanger/barn find up to prom date condition. Part of those "bones" you speak of, Mike, includes an Airworthiness Directive (AD) that the FAA slapped on certain models of C-210s last March. This particular is in that group (1967 C-210G). The AD requires an inspection of the wing's main spar, and is estimated to cost $2,000. If the spar needs replacing, the FAA estimates a cost of $43,600. www.avweb.com/aviation-news/cessna-210-wing-spar-ad-issued/ An interesting topic that you do bring up, Mike, is how much and what kind of work can a buyer perform on a used airplane - certified or experimental - that needs a lot of TLC.
@Tomxman
@Tomxman 4 жыл бұрын
Its a 1967 210 first year they had turbo charged 285 hp engines cantilever no strut wings 190 mph IAS at altitude 24,000 ft would be about 230 mph 16 gph
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen 4 жыл бұрын
But if you need a new engine that's 87 thou plus installation. You really really have to need those 6 seats to buy this, otherwise buy something lighter and more modern that actually works and doesn't throw the fuel for propulsion purposes.
@mojogrip
@mojogrip 4 жыл бұрын
No new engine. Current engine works just fine. Just needed to be serviced. This plane is already flying.
@bobswan6196
@bobswan6196 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely spinner...
@Johnwayne1968
@Johnwayne1968 4 жыл бұрын
Piper Cherokees have been known to lose wings inflight also if the FAA had done its job most of these tragedies would have been avoided
@bobswan6196
@bobswan6196 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnwayne1968 I've only just realised what you might be talking about. I wasn't talking about aerodynamic spinning. I was referring to that beautiful blue prop spinner on the nose!
@butlerpep
@butlerpep 4 жыл бұрын
This is NOT car or house fixing up, The costs become ridiculous quickly to the point you will wonder why you began this. Poor guy is about to learn a lesson that lucky lightning doesnt strike twice
@scottcummings8074
@scottcummings8074 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you have to be an aircraft mechanic to fix a plane like this up since its not expieremental or is there a way around it? I would love to get a plane like this to repair but don't think it is legal to do the work myself.
@i.r.wayright1457
@i.r.wayright1457 4 жыл бұрын
That is correct. Most of the work would either have to be performed by a licensed mechanic or the owner would have to be working under the supervision of one. And if a plane is neglected and looks like a POS, it probably is. One factor I noticed when I was involved in buying, repairing, and selling was where was the plane based? If near the seashore, look out for corrosion. If nothing else, the prices of parts will kill your budget, never mind the labor rates these days for quality work.
@scottcummings8074
@scottcummings8074 4 жыл бұрын
@@i.r.wayright1457 thats what I thought, experimental is my only choice realistically.
@howtimflies204
@howtimflies204 4 жыл бұрын
You can work on your own plane under the guidance of an IA which has to inspect and sign off.
@i.r.wayright1457
@i.r.wayright1457 4 жыл бұрын
@@howtimflies204 If you are working on the plane in a certified repair station, the I.A. is not necessary. The repair station certificate number is used in place of an individual with an I.A. to sign off. I should know, as I was in that situation. I was a Director of Maintenance for an FBO/Repair Station and I signed off everything before I acquired my I.A. Granted that was 20 years ago so maybe things have changed. But, I would bet not many repair station owners would stick their necks out for a non licensed person's work.
@waynealmond5598
@waynealmond5598 4 жыл бұрын
This aircraft is very expensive to operate,you need to check the insurance rates ,this is the most likely general aviation aircraft to have a gear up landing because of the way to gear has to fold because it is a high wing aircraft very risky
@Chris_at_Home
@Chris_at_Home 4 жыл бұрын
Planes are nice if you make a lot of money and want to spend it. I did it for about 8 years when I bought a plane in the mid 80s.i only paid $9,000 for which really wasn’t a lot of money back then. It was a 7ECA Champ. We had a saying among co-workers in the 90s that went like this “Dear Lord Please give us another oil boom as I promise to not piss it away next time”. I find it cheaper to pay an air taxi which many times is more convenient for things like being dropped for a remote rafting trip where drop off and pickup are different places. Also when hunting a larger payload is available to haul game out.
@benderaviation
@benderaviation 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Champ, got my TW in it.
@NotTelling51
@NotTelling51 4 жыл бұрын
that 160 mph is really over 160 kts.
@flexairz
@flexairz 4 жыл бұрын
160 mph is 139 kts
@NotTelling51
@NotTelling51 4 жыл бұрын
@@flexairz that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the plane will easily fly 160 kts ... not 160 mph. I've flown them a lot. They're a fast plane.
@MalcolmRuthven
@MalcolmRuthven 4 жыл бұрын
@@NotTelling51 The T210G will cruise at 200 mph (175 kts) at 10,000 feet or above. Long ago I owned N6865R, very near this plane on the assembly line.
@NotTelling51
@NotTelling51 4 жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmRuthven so a 1967 or somewhere along there? My time in a 210 was in 67V a 67 G model
@MalcolmRuthven
@MalcolmRuthven 4 жыл бұрын
@@NotTelling51 Yes, 1967 T210G.
@SethWestmore
@SethWestmore 4 жыл бұрын
Are you not allowed to fly the plane you just finished having built for yourself?
@19GABRIEL85
@19GABRIEL85 4 жыл бұрын
How much a Cessna 210 in that condition will be??
@Oferb553
@Oferb553 4 жыл бұрын
This is a rust bucket. Need to replace some of the fusilage panels due to corrosion, new seats, new paint, new avionics, maybe engine overhulling, need to check all mechanical components, control cables, breaks, landing gear, hydraulics.... It is very bad for a plane to seat like that without flying. Very very sad. This low cost aircraft may be very expensive after doing all required repairs.
@NateVolk
@NateVolk 4 жыл бұрын
You should be happy to know its not a rust bucket, it is currently flying and well under $40k. Its not pretty but it still carries 1200lbs at 165kts at 13gal/hr at 11.5k.
@BStrambo
@BStrambo 4 жыл бұрын
I think I'd way rather take on a project Cherokee 6 than a project 210 Turbo!
@NateVolk
@NateVolk 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you can't beat the turbo :) The 6 is super nice though!
@scottpecora371
@scottpecora371 4 жыл бұрын
The Centurion 210 was Cessna's attempt to one up Beechcraft's Bonanza. It had a lot of power and was comfortable but had a few issues. The first that comes to mind is the main gear. More than one 210, especially the early models ended up having to make a belly landing because the gear would not extend. Hard braking in a 210 is a real experience in severe shaking with brakes applied. The main gear us just about a 2" diameter rod with lots of flex so when the brakes are applied the wheel assembly begins to flex back and forth shaking the entire plane. For the uninitiated its quite an experience the first time!
@1shARyn3
@1shARyn3 4 жыл бұрын
5:40-ish --- is that the Mojosling on the other side of the hangar wall? ((5:35-5:40))
@flexairz
@flexairz 4 жыл бұрын
Probably was.
@RodrigoVargas72
@RodrigoVargas72 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. That plane has been flying for over a month. I can only guess why mr Mike is waiting this long for the reveal.
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 4 жыл бұрын
Appears to be. No 'N' number, though. This review may have been shot several weeks/months ago.
@danyork3948
@danyork3948 4 жыл бұрын
Buyer beware. These aircraft have a potentially very expensive spar carry though AD.
@juliusdavis2142
@juliusdavis2142 Жыл бұрын
High school greenhorn
@SamCarstairs
@SamCarstairs 4 жыл бұрын
That plane is going to cost him a lot more than $35K in the future
@EJWash57
@EJWash57 4 жыл бұрын
It's gonna cost him another $35K - four more times!
@jerem0621
@jerem0621 4 жыл бұрын
We do not know the new owners background. They could be an A&P or Rich and don’t care.
@scottstp7084
@scottstp7084 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mister, that plane wasn’t going to be flying like you are insinuating. It’s probably way out of annual and looks far from airworthy. Also, don’t suggest that this is a plane for someone “who’s mechanically inclined” as you had said. If you’re making and posting videos, you should know that it’s not legal for a non-mechanic to make repairs or restorations.
@Chemist1076
@Chemist1076 4 жыл бұрын
Handyman special
@waqarsyed6641
@waqarsyed6641 3 жыл бұрын
Mike
@thepurpleufo
@thepurpleufo 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what model of 210 this is...but looks like you guys have never heard of the Cessna 210 Wing Spar Airworthiness Directive that has destroyed the value of so many 210s...mandated (and expensive) inspection and very expensive fix...if the fix is even possible. www.flyingmag.com/story/aircraft/faa-cessna-201-wing-spar-inspections/
@zackriden79
@zackriden79 4 жыл бұрын
you are giving bad advice never buy an airplanes thats been setting ! you want something that flew the last year
@anunpopularstance
@anunpopularstance 3 жыл бұрын
Any Cessna 210 for $35000 will likely cost your another $20000 just to get it in safe flying order. These cheapest plane/car videos are very misleading once you factor in repairs needed.
@treyodaniel5838
@treyodaniel5838 4 жыл бұрын
He talking about aviation being expensive n all these sitting planes... yea they are sitting because they are money pits. Go buy that pos on the ramp for 10k and it’s going to be the most expensive plane you’ll ever own LOL.
@flexairz
@flexairz 4 жыл бұрын
That plane is NOT cheap to operate of fly. And it sure will not fly that day.
@VinnyBully
@VinnyBully 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, i wouldnt fly in that piece of junk. Im not sure rock bottom pricing is a good idea for buying an airplane. The goal is that you live after flying it.
@coolhari2000
@coolhari2000 4 жыл бұрын
The 210 is fast powerful wonderful beast! Ps. It's NOT affordable to maintain, it's a hanger queen!!!!!
@mojogrip
@mojogrip 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@kirklandelectricicnc
@kirklandelectricicnc 3 жыл бұрын
I seriously believe this plane will not be flying at the end of the day.
@mojogrip
@mojogrip 3 жыл бұрын
The plane started flying the same week I shot this video. It's been flying ever since 😀
@deannichols3501
@deannichols3501 4 жыл бұрын
OMG please stop This plane has a AD on the wing spare for corrosion. Please do a little home work.
@mojogrip
@mojogrip 4 жыл бұрын
Relax! all the ADs have already been checked, engine serviced. The plane is airworthy and has been flying since the make of this video. Stay tuned for the owner's interview to tell you more about it.
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