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The Cheating Problem at YCS Vegas

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CultofOtaku

CultofOtaku

Күн бұрын

So YCS Vegas was easily the biggest dumpster fire of a YCS when you consider everything that went on. Between the profanity, poor management, and cheating this will go down as one of the worst YCSs in Yu-Gi-Oh history.
Let's dissect a couple of the bigger moments of cheating that took place and discuss whether or not these we intentional or not.

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@TheoJay615
@TheoJay615 5 ай бұрын
The Voiceless Player moving Yubel to the Anima column was absolutely an intentional cheat imo. That's just too much advantage to be gained for it to be an accident.
@ThaLedg
@ThaLedg 5 ай бұрын
Doing it once is a mistake. Doing it twice makes it clearly intentional
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 5 ай бұрын
​@@ThaLedgonce is an accident, twice is a pattern. As they say.
@caveofmadness2143
@caveofmadness2143 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I saw this too, I thought damn it was a wish from the voiceless player to summon the Yubel-Fusion on his side xD
@ImNotEvenGudBreh
@ImNotEvenGudBreh 5 ай бұрын
They did that multiple times across the match
@TopDeckKaloy
@TopDeckKaloy 5 ай бұрын
I love it when the Yubel player is aware that his card was moved but just kept silent until he saw Anima hahaha
@exodus4104
@exodus4104 5 ай бұрын
The match that really irked me was the swordsoul vs floo feature on day 1 where the swordsoul player made so many illegal plays it felt to coincidental for them to all be accidents
@TemporalDelusion
@TemporalDelusion 5 ай бұрын
This is basically why I'm afraid to even bother going above locals level. I just know I couldn't handle people trying to scum me. I'm generally nice about everything at locals, but there are some sweatlords occasionally coming over from other locals to tryhard. They tend to do these kinds of things and unless you know every card and interaction chain by heart it's easy to miss things. Getting sharked or berated by opponents trying to get one over you unfairly is something I really don't want to deal with in my late 20s anymore. People really act the same as they did way back in kindergarten when nobody had a clue trying to make stuff up.
@martinl.7758
@martinl.7758 5 ай бұрын
ngl. this isnt very common. you have idiots everywhere but if something like this happens its most likley not malicious intent and rather a honest mistake
@Nephalem2002
@Nephalem2002 5 ай бұрын
I understand the feeling. Only two locals in Ottawa that do OTS consistently have the best players in Ontario outside of Toronto, so as such their all gonna sweat.
@FNigslol
@FNigslol 5 ай бұрын
That's a you problem buddy. Literallyc
@yamamoto800
@yamamoto800 5 ай бұрын
Yes bro I like to stay at locals to avoid sweatlords too. Then I can feel superior destroying all the blue-eyes players.
@TemporalDelusion
@TemporalDelusion 5 ай бұрын
@@yamamoto800 Nobody plays blue-eyes and surprisingly most people play some form of rogue deck that used to be competitive at some point. The decks are fairly balanced in comparative power level so games are fairly enjoyable each week.
@andiwankenobi9147
@andiwankenobi9147 5 ай бұрын
As someone who also struggles with his appearance I want to show you respect for filming your self. This is the first of your videos I get to watch and it’s a great one keep it up 👌🏻🔥
@kimjung-un8204
@kimjung-un8204 5 ай бұрын
With Sam his game loss was when he said "let's fucking go" the goddam one was just a warning
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 5 ай бұрын
Still... imagine a warning for "goddamn". Such a nothing word...
@QuarterbackTCG
@QuarterbackTCG 5 ай бұрын
Damn is not a curse, and yugioh shouldn't be preaching about respecting gods.
@somethingtocosplayassometh21
@somethingtocosplayassometh21 5 ай бұрын
He also said s***
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 5 ай бұрын
@@somethingtocosplayassometh21 just because you put ast****** on the word, it doesn't make it a bad word.
@cotysummitt5154
@cotysummitt5154 5 ай бұрын
A nothing word to you. It’s some people who believe in God and that word offends them
@babrad
@babrad 5 ай бұрын
- About Prosp, it's not just on resolution. When a condition/restriction is separate from the effect, it means it has to be respected for the ENTIRE turn. This is also the reasoning behind SP banishing on MP2 despite attacking directly that turn. - About TTT/Baronne, most players have become accustomed to Veiler/Ash negating the effect or the card itself and not the activation entirely so it's a common mistake. The same thing happens with a turn player using Belle on something and then going for either TTT. - About Ty-phon, this confusion happens at least once in every event (from locals to ycs). The card text isn't that clear to avoid redundancy but just like you said I've explained many times that what Ty-phon's text means is that "you can summon it with its own procedure, if your opponent summoned 2 monsters from the Extra on the same turn, whether this is the current turn or the previous one". This is very common, the same as "Spell/Trap card or effect" being mistaken that can negate monster effects OR Solemn Judgment trying to negate a Spell/Trap EFFECT activation. Now about VV vs Yubel, I don't want to be biased because it happened twice or because it would be advantageous for them since both players seemed nervous enough to make misplays/illegal activations (for example the Yubel player tried to activate SP's first effect without using a ED monster, even saying "first time using SP"). During the first occasion, it seems an honest mistake from both sides. Still what I want to emphasize is that if you notice the misplacement of your monster, you SHOULD NOT wait to correct the gamestate after the opponent makes a move that would benefit you (committing to anima) and instead fix the gamestate immediately. I saw a lot of comments about "clever counter-cheating" and this is a terrible rabbit hole to go in since this kind of "sharking" is very hard to punish and can be applied to other cases as well (for example intentional illegal summons to fish out private knowledge like an imperm etc, then taking back the illegal play but proceed with the added knowledge). Since the player didn't argue at all saying something like "in that case i want to take back anima" (it wouldn't happen anyway), while in the second case it was fixed immediately by the judge (player saying sorry etc) i'm willing to believe it was just pressure from being in the feature match instead of taking out my pitchfork. What i really don't like on the other hand is using specifically archetypal cards in a different language instead of known staples, hiding some "restrictions/backdoors" they may have, while not having at least a translation of the card in the hopes your opponent won't bother to scan it with Neuron. This + partial explanations of card effects (Saffira adding from GY as well, so Belle would be a turn-ender) makes the entire situation fishy. Anyway, sorry for the essay, last thing to say: Always read your opponent's cards yourself and not just wait for them to explain "it's a stratos etc" while remembering you are actually your opponent's judge just like the opponent is your judge since both of you are responsible for keeping a legal gamestate.
@PapajusLtu
@PapajusLtu 5 ай бұрын
Slight add on prosperity comment, it's not such the case that it's a separate effect, but more that it doesn't specify for the rest of the turn. As for S:P, you can still apply the effect because "then" adds an additional effect and it's a condition for cards activation
@babrad
@babrad 5 ай бұрын
@@PapajusLtu this is incorrect. When the added part/condition/restriction is written in a separate sentense it's considered at ALL TIMES. I didn't say it's a separate effect, only that it's written in a separate sentense, hence the example. Prosperity or branded fusion is a "card activation" restriction. There are also others like "Shaddoll Fusion" that are "extension"-like effects. The reason Shaddoll Fusion can always be Ashed is because said "effect" can is checked during resolution as well, and is a great contrast to something like "Knightmare" link monster that decide the draw part during activation. SP is NOT a condition, unlike Prosperity/BraFu. It's an effect. If it were a condition, like "Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning 1st bullet point effect" for example, it would be written in a separate sentense as well. That's the reason BLS can't just attack twice, then banish a monster on the same turn unlike SP.
@babrad
@babrad 5 ай бұрын
My example about Ash Blossom is so that it's easier to understand, thanks to the interaction of "Ash Blossom VS Branded Fusion" still locking you into Fusion Summons for the turn (before and after BraFu's activation). SP would be similar to "Fusion Destiny" instead, which not only doesn't care about what was previously done, it's also part of the effect so in case Ash Blossom negates this you aren't locked to "DARK HERO" monsters. The typical HOPT restriction uses the above pattern for the same reason.
@albenox643
@albenox643 5 ай бұрын
What is ridiculous Is when a judge called over to make a ruling and hes team mate is your opponent and the judge blatantly makes the wrong ruling in his favor only to call the head judge over to fund out hes is also you opponents friend
@bismarckimperia8781
@bismarckimperia8781 5 ай бұрын
You know its real when the real problems arent the T0 spam and domination but staffs being dunce, cheaters being everywhere and the winner being disrespectful after his opponent got a loss for saying "God Damn". Vegas YCS is literally on fire.
@kimjung-un8204
@kimjung-un8204 5 ай бұрын
The game loss Sam got was om his secret strike for saying "let's fucking go" goddam was only a warning
@geek593
@geek593 5 ай бұрын
@@kimjung-un8204 Between rounds, applied to the next round which was the finals. It was at the judge's discretion and he chose to punish harsher than the policy document.
@kimjung-un8204
@kimjung-un8204 5 ай бұрын
@geek593 rules are rules. He was given the warning to correct his actions and still didn't. Is what the judge did scummy yes, but Sam also broke the policy
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 5 ай бұрын
@3 Have you read the policy document, there are different levels of infractions, some that result in PE minor, PE major, UC minor UC major, etc etc, with those infractions, the penalty for repeated offenses, within the same event, can be elevated, a PE Minor giving you a warning 1st, 2nd offense is usually upgraded to a game loss, as you cannot apply a game loss to an already concluded match, the game loss carries into the next round. He got the warning during his match, and the 2nd infraction occurred upon the matches conclusion, the judge applied the penalty policy appropriately, going to far, would be having given him a match loss or a disqualification.
@FNigslol
@FNigslol 5 ай бұрын
God you are brain dead
@jacobcoates7987
@jacobcoates7987 5 ай бұрын
It's crazy that so many people are playing the same deck and still can't catch the cheating.
@payne1727
@payne1727 5 ай бұрын
Yall are just gunna have to deal with my baldness lmfao 😂😂
@ethanhopper2467
@ethanhopper2467 5 ай бұрын
Overall, good video, I think you handled the topic well. The only problem I have is with your use of "intentional" versus "unintentional" cheating. If there's no intent, it isn't cheating - it's a mistake or an illegal play. These people don't deserve to be labeled cheaters for making mistakes in high-pressure situations.
@rikacomedyletsplays2581
@rikacomedyletsplays2581 5 ай бұрын
this is why i just stick to having nostalgia decks and play online or against bots. The tourney "bruh" cult has made yugioh so toxic in irl that card shops hate us
@littlezero6399
@littlezero6399 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I am old. Been playing since YGO came out blah, blah, blah. The game is so complicated, that cheating has been an apart of the physical card game since the dawn of YGO time. I cannot think of any locals when either myself or my opponent did not catch ourselves or the other making an illegal move. A simulator like Master Duel is literally the only way to eliminate cheating either intentional or unintentional and it is only limited to the simulators code and rule understanding. Cheating is so much apart of the physical game I would go as far to say, even though I don't agree, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. I love YGO but if you need to be distant coder level of game understanding to play the game without cheating, it is probably a poorly designed game with out a simulator to enforce rules. xD
@LuciferArc1
@LuciferArc1 5 ай бұрын
This. Especially with how chains and effects interact, it gets really complicated with the more stuff that pops off. I wouldn't even call this a children's card game anymore. That died and the start of the pendulum era....good God the damn card text
@McBeastys
@McBeastys 5 ай бұрын
If mkhol40 can have a community any looks can have a YT community. Good video keep it up 👍
@rishiy6183
@rishiy6183 5 ай бұрын
This is what keeps me away from physical yugioh, i have to know every card in my opponents deck and make sure they do everything properly? No thanks 😂.
@Geo-ok1nw
@Geo-ok1nw 5 ай бұрын
Y-yes… if u don’t know what their deck does how will u know how to play vs them?
@darkrulerbob
@darkrulerbob 5 ай бұрын
The Yubel player is my buddy Oscar. He told me about the game you are talking about. It was definitely cheating on purpose
@urd3adnow
@urd3adnow 5 ай бұрын
people won't like it when i say this but the cold hard truth is that master duel/simulator is the only real yugioh format because cheating isn't possible. i don't trust people shuffling their deck. i don't trust them playing the game. i don't trust them remembering lingering effects and conditions.
@masterminer2338
@masterminer2338 5 ай бұрын
It's not just about your opponent remembering. It's just as much your responsibility as it is theirs to maintain a legal game state.
@FNigslol
@FNigslol 5 ай бұрын
That's such a moronic take. How about judges just pay more attention???
@yamamoto800
@yamamoto800 5 ай бұрын
I don’t trust yugioh players. 😂 anyone who would slow play you just to get X-3 cannot be trusted.
@olytorres4499
@olytorres4499 Ай бұрын
U can cheat on master duel and any online game is easy as just google master duel or whatever game cheats . Yes is that easy
@alexanderbatterbee8369
@alexanderbatterbee8369 5 ай бұрын
Chicago regional was terrible too. ppl had to wait in the hall for a table lol. Konami is a multi billion dollar company and can't do shit right and it's a shame we still support them
@kimjung-un8204
@kimjung-un8204 5 ай бұрын
Imagine cheating at a children's card game
@stevenfink2086
@stevenfink2086 5 ай бұрын
Imagine payn 100s mayb 1000s for cards n more $$ juss to fly out ther juss to cheat at childrens card game oooof
@niklasmonteiro6051
@niklasmonteiro6051 5 ай бұрын
Imagine swearing at a children’s game…goddamn
@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1 5 ай бұрын
Imagine children actually playing this children's card game 😂
@geovannymata168
@geovannymata168 5 ай бұрын
Find the children playing the game and ill let you have that lmfao
@kimjung-un8204
@kimjung-un8204 5 ай бұрын
@geovannymata168 isnt dragon duel the league for children? Idk if they were at that event specifically but it is a thing 🤔
@geovannymata168
@geovannymata168 5 ай бұрын
The yubel play was 100000% intentionally cheating, you can tell because of the way he was certain where to place the card back, the body language says it mostly honestly
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 5 ай бұрын
I'd say it's more the fact that he had and played Anima right after. There's no way he doesn't know how that card works, so it's only reasonable to assume that the column misplacement in front of the EMZ was intentional so he could use the effect of a monster that effects things in front of EMZ.
@ianbraun271
@ianbraun271 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe, but why didn't the Voiceless Voice player correct him immediately?
@geovannymata168
@geovannymata168 5 ай бұрын
@@ianbraun271 idk about you but after 4-5 rounds of yu-gi-oh, im BURNED out. I cant think and honestly even need sleep. These guys were already like 10 rounds deep. I honestly can't blame him. Its on camera anyways... should it REALLY only be up to the player... it degrades the game like that.
@FNigslol
@FNigslol 5 ай бұрын
An important note about sam is cursing is against policy and he had multiple warnings
@kurumilover6999
@kurumilover6999 5 ай бұрын
There is also the fact people dont know how every interaction works so people could thing it works one way but due to a weird ruling it could be the exact opposite one of the worst ruling is attack modification for me xD
@3cho_dimension285
@3cho_dimension285 5 ай бұрын
Its rigged these judges were underpaid off 🤣🤣🤣
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
We're they even paid? I was under the idea that Konami gives judges products but doesn't physically pay them
@masterminer2338
@masterminer2338 5 ай бұрын
​@@cultofotaku9367 Konami is required to pay their judges at least minimum wage for the state the event takes place in, or Federal minimum wage, whichever is higher.
@Andy4995
@Andy4995 5 ай бұрын
@@masterminer2338Is that a fact, do you have a source of some kind? Because it would be interesting to look into it. I also thought they just get products. A Friend of mine, some people on KZbin that judged etc. always talk about the stuff they got, but not the money.
@brodericksmith4588
@brodericksmith4588 5 ай бұрын
They didnt used to get paid but they do now. Its not much and certainly not enough for what they have to do.
@Nephalem2002
@Nephalem2002 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t be surprised. Canadian Team mentioned getting screwed cause the Judge was from a Rival Cardshop.
@QuarterbackTCG
@QuarterbackTCG 5 ай бұрын
Yugioh has the most cheaters in any card game maybe outside of poker. The game gets progressively harder over the years when compounded with the pressure in game, cheating or illegal plays happen all the time, seen judges give wrong rulings on purpose to elp acquaintances and in the same tourney later on flip the ruling.
@timsimons3918
@timsimons3918 5 ай бұрын
In the final round of a regionals I went to I lost to a labrynth player who opened big welcome, set big welcome, activated big welcome the turn it was set, then summoned 2 lady lab and a shavara that he had in grave. This was turn 1
@23wenlok
@23wenlok 5 ай бұрын
This adam also cheated with pot of pros. He banished 3 and looked at 6 cards from deck
@drewskiii25cod
@drewskiii25cod 5 ай бұрын
I play him at locals he was really nervous on his feature he doesn’t make this mistake give the guy a break yo
@23wenlok
@23wenlok 5 ай бұрын
@@drewskiii25cod I think you are right that he was nervous. I would be nervous too, but I think the judge watching did a Bad job. He only was there to watch this match
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 5 ай бұрын
@@23wenlok I mean judges aren't there to referee every action they are there like that for the feature match so there is no downtime waiting for a judge call if needed, the game state is supposed to be maintained by both players, a judge may interject to correct minor things, but its up to the player(s) to notice illegal activations and call a judge to address the issue, same as you cannot ask a judge how an interaction or if a card activation is legal or not, before committing to it, you have to take the action first.
@michaelh.1484
@michaelh.1484 5 ай бұрын
So someone gets a loss over their language, which is at an event being held in Vegas by the way. It's in Vegas... And halfway through the video I'm watching a player who half of the time is making illegal plays. From not activating triple tactics talent properly, to illegally summoning TY-PHON, like that's an auto disqualification 2 rounds in a row of mistakes. Like come on lol.
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 5 ай бұрын
It's not an auto disqualification, there are 2 separate illegal actions taken, you get warnings for each, if he had illegally activated talents or tried to summon Ty-phon multiple times in that match then yes, those penalties could be elevated, but you cannot give someone an upgraded penalty for a different infraction, simply because they were given a warning for doing something completely different, PE Minor illegal activation, warning, PE Minor Illegal attempt to summon a monster, warning.
@MewtwoStruckBack
@MewtwoStruckBack 4 ай бұрын
You want to snuff out cheating? Get it in the terms agreed to to play in events that if you get busted cheating, the company is able to sue and take a HUGE chunk of money from the cheater. Like...tens of thousands of dollars. I would start it at "5x the retail value of the total prize support given to all players over the course of the entire event" at minimum. "Sell your possessions to satisfy the judgment" type fines. That money gets used as prize support for an invitational tournament each year, where they list how much money came from each cheating POS. It shouldn't just ban you from the game for 3 years if you get caught cheating - it should ruin your life.
@LeyMurphyYGO
@LeyMurphyYGO 5 ай бұрын
I honestly think the purrely player was completely aware that Talents is an illegal activation, he still let it resolve because his opponent should theoretically resolve a game loss for illegal draws / irreparable gamestate.
@newbiesama
@newbiesama 5 ай бұрын
I don't think I have seen any YCS where there were no illigal moves made during the entire YCS. Even Pak one because he made an illegal move
@cielshalow4193
@cielshalow4193 5 ай бұрын
Some judges now days are just clowns😂
@alexrichardson8983
@alexrichardson8983 5 ай бұрын
As someone who plays the deck, the voiceless players at the event are absolute embarrassments and should quit the game.
@50V3RNTY
@50V3RNTY 5 ай бұрын
Serious question an analysis I think may be the issue. If most of us play on simulators that basically do all the chaining, reactions ETC EXCEPT DB is it possible ppl have become super reliant on those types of simulation that basically are on auto play vs DB you HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING YOURSELF! Which can cause this main issue because ppl go off of what they play in simulation an not actual irl duels because there's soooo much to remember an going on
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
Maybe for those players at the lower table. These players were in top cut Day 2.
@deckzonetcg8907
@deckzonetcg8907 5 ай бұрын
The Yubel Player immediately knew it was the wrong zone and chose not to speak up until the anima came down. There is a sliver of unsportsmanlike conduct there.
@Joy_ffa1bd
@Joy_ffa1bd 5 ай бұрын
its unsportsmanlike to use a cheater's tactics against them?
@deckzonetcg8907
@deckzonetcg8907 5 ай бұрын
@@Joy_ffa1bd stealing from a thief still makes you a thief. It doesn't validate the ethics of your action.
@TheJmack90
@TheJmack90 5 ай бұрын
That Anima play was heinous.
@H2MixtapeGod
@H2MixtapeGod 5 ай бұрын
"Soft cheating" is what some people call it and its ruined the game honestly because while some of it is by accident, its hard to decipher when it is intentional. Allowing things like dice to be used to mark things should be allowed again. There have been many cheaters throughout this games history who have had success doing wild things. It feels like every time I watch a streamed match from a ycs something happens at least once, so imagine how many things go on each round. Its actually insane.
@RuneRaged
@RuneRaged 5 ай бұрын
More and more I feel justified in never trying to compete at high level of play Regardless of how expensive or how jank my deck would be
@ManuelRiccobono
@ManuelRiccobono 5 ай бұрын
4:57 I am not very sure about this. I heard it works like the normal summon, that if they negate your normal summon, it is still treated as if you normal summoned that turn. So it should work that, if they negate the activation of a card, it is still treated as if “a card was activated that turn”
@PapajusLtu
@PapajusLtu 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, it's just how it works. You get to perform 1 normal summon per turn and even if it's negated you performed it. Activation and other summons are different. If your Dinowrestler Pankratops summon was negated with Sauravis or Solemn Strike, you can still special summon another copy even if effect says you can special summon him once. Also same with Branded fusion. If your BF is negated by Baronne and you have another BF in hand, welp lucky you and you can use another one :D
@randomprotag9329
@randomprotag9329 5 ай бұрын
that would make more sense so its not actual ruling. in reality the HOPT clause only applies when the card has been successfully activated not conistent to normal summons
@kaantekin-sari5967
@kaantekin-sari5967 5 ай бұрын
Did the purelly player activate a monster effect on that duelists turn? If not it is an illegal play.
@robsantorobass
@robsantorobass 5 ай бұрын
He went to activate Effect Veiler but his opponent negated the activation so technically TTT couldn’t have been activated because his opponent negated the monsters effect activation.
@kaantekin-sari5967
@kaantekin-sari5967 5 ай бұрын
@robsantorobass ah I see, because it didn't resolve it wasn't considered an activation right?
@jimmayorga1863
@jimmayorga1863 5 ай бұрын
​@kaantekin-sari5967 No, its because Baronne explicitly says "negate the activation" of the card that it is negating. So the effect veiler "technically" didn't activated because of Baronne, therefore talents can't be activated
@WildWildWesley
@WildWildWesley 5 ай бұрын
Venue was plenty big but the organization and the judging was pretty bad. They were either way too sensitive over nothing or way too timid to take control of a situation. Like letting spectators stand in aisles and talk to players in the middle of events or like people were calling judges over just to milk time over players asking them to clarify if they were normal or special summoning a monster. At 2 minutes a judge should know that kind of call is taking advantage of the judge and the time rules.
@RobinhooodGFX
@RobinhooodGFX 5 ай бұрын
more event/stream recaps please. subbed 👍
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
I can possibly make it happen. This form of content is new to me
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
I'm more used to deck lists and tier lists lol. This was kinda just random due to my frustration with this past event
@ehdes4638
@ehdes4638 5 ай бұрын
you still can activate talents even when the activation was negated i sounmmd rly weird but its possible
@itouch4mac
@itouch4mac 5 ай бұрын
You’re a good looking man, my dude 👍🏼
@brockfg
@brockfg 5 ай бұрын
I think some people deserve a little benefit of the doubt. But at the same time, you should not be making multiple mistakes like this at a YCS.
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
I agree. And I do try to make that point in the video. I may have just not be clear enough. The yubel vs voiceless one though i refuse to believe it was an accident since he did it twice in 1 round
@brockfg
@brockfg 5 ай бұрын
@cultofotaku9367 you were definitely clear and fair about both players, hopefully I didnt come off in a way that is contrary
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
@@brockfg you're good man
@oscar-xi1gm
@oscar-xi1gm 5 ай бұрын
Yugiho pros have admitted this before all pro players cheat both my friends have played several pro players only to have to see them try and cheat over and over.
@carsonmontz4232
@carsonmontz4232 5 ай бұрын
Cheating has and always will be prominent in yugioh. The game is full of thieves and cheats
@Nephalem2002
@Nephalem2002 5 ай бұрын
Hani should be banned for Disrespectful Behaviour post match and Chris Leblanc should be banned for domestic abuse.
@toxicdragon85
@toxicdragon85 5 ай бұрын
It's possible that there was cheating going on but could you get in trouble for talking about it?
@kurumilover6999
@kurumilover6999 5 ай бұрын
2nd game was obv cheating and should have got a ban for it
@Truth_Hunter_1
@Truth_Hunter_1 5 ай бұрын
The players of the game right now especially Y.C.S. players are so bad that you should automatically do a game loss for the fact that you don’t know how to play your own rules of your game if you are a YCS play you should know the rules by now that something that’s only tolerated at locals
@geek593
@geek593 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Yugioh is a game for lawyers or simulators instead of players makes this the reality of the game. The game is simply past the point of game states being easily held together by most players. This makes it less fun for most players and gives scumbags plausible deniability for their obvious maliciousness.
@randomprotag9329
@randomprotag9329 5 ай бұрын
main issue is the lack of a rulebook. usually when doing a rulebook they not just document rules but iron out common rules to make it easier for players to completely mess up board state/resolve most stuff incorrectly.
@stevenbrown5737
@stevenbrown5737 5 ай бұрын
Top meta players will do whatever it takes to win they don't care and then when they lose they absolutely crack it especially when they lose to a rogue deck and my opinion is that rogue players are honest and always keep an eye on the game state and there are many rogue decks out there that can knock over meta decks back in the true draco format I beat them easily with blue eyes chaos max paired with odd eyes gravity dragon and they didn't like that one bit so as far as I'm concerned rogue decks have just as much potential as meta decks
@mitchellbartholomew4976
@mitchellbartholomew4976 5 ай бұрын
its a kids game , kids watch it. If your mom hears the youtube say sheeet and goddamn then they loser views and revenue. Also hes a youtuber he knows the policies better than most
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 5 ай бұрын
We all know parents don't parent their kids and let them do whatever. They don't care about them potentially being exposed to inappropriate content enough to do their jobs. And on Konami's side, maybe they shouldn't be marketing a game with 10K+ cards, even more crazy interactions, and a bible's worth of rules both written and unwritten (see things like the E-HERO AZ ruling, the REF Dragoon ruling, the similar Ultimate Fusion Magia ruling, etc.) to kids that aren't old enough to here some light swearing. This isn't a game for 9 year olds, no matter how much Konami tries to make it such. And this is coming from someone that grew up with the series.
@johnnickfanaccount3492
@johnnickfanaccount3492 5 ай бұрын
I mean swearing is against konami policy especially when you are on stream, it's obviously sams fault
@HYDEinallcaps
@HYDEinallcaps 5 ай бұрын
Goddamn, that's a fucking slop comment.
@TheAz0680
@TheAz0680 5 ай бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOO, dont say the OSGD phrase, it may get you demonetized and banned noooooooooo
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
Jokes on them. My content can't be monetized
@TheDeadGunslinger
@TheDeadGunslinger 5 ай бұрын
When people are spending $1000+ on a competitive deck, yea cheating is gonna get worse.
@daveross6963
@daveross6963 5 ай бұрын
Mich from brazil straight Cheating 2 times in camera
@VaughnGear
@VaughnGear 5 ай бұрын
Bro take the video down before it gets more views, trust me you will get ban for this
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
How so?
@VaughnGear
@VaughnGear 5 ай бұрын
@@cultofotaku9367 cheating in thumbnail and title is not allowed when discussing their events. You'll get ban for a year trust me.
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
Do you have an example of this actually happening to someone?
@VaughnGear
@VaughnGear 5 ай бұрын
@@cultofotaku9367 LMFAO yea me
@treasuredcollectibles
@treasuredcollectibles 5 ай бұрын
if true this sounds like a deep dive topic in itself. someone who doesnt attend ycs would be perfect to cover it
@alexanderthomas4425
@alexanderthomas4425 5 ай бұрын
Lol the one rule to cheating is don’t get caught
@sangdrako
@sangdrako 5 ай бұрын
Actually, God damn only got a game warning. Sam said something else that got him the game loss. I don't recall what
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
Yea he after the game screamed "fuck yea let's go" which is what got the game loss
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 5 ай бұрын
Still. Same issue. Imagine a warning for "goddamn" of all things...
@ashleymaple16
@ashleymaple16 5 ай бұрын
If you watch josh he said that pak told him sam had a warning day 1 and a warning for the goddamb but the match loss for saying let’s fucking go
@RighteousnessWillPrevail
@RighteousnessWillPrevail 2 ай бұрын
Please don't cuss. Set a good example..
@RighteousnessWillPrevail
@RighteousnessWillPrevail 2 ай бұрын
=]
@Munchie3777
@Munchie3777 5 ай бұрын
I was the 666th viewer....also I agree don't do it!(cheating)
@detective_0267
@detective_0267 5 ай бұрын
Why does the channel character have a full head of hair then when i click i get jump scared by this bald guy o,o
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
Cause the channel character was designed when I had hair lol.
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 5 ай бұрын
Because why would you make your character look exactly like you when you have the power to make them look like something you'd want to look at or for others to look at? It's the same reason guys sometimes play girl characters is games where you can create a custom character.
@detective_0267
@detective_0267 5 ай бұрын
@@espurrseyes42 I make girl characters because if imma stare at a character all day it might as well be some hot girl
@kuyagoldlink7563
@kuyagoldlink7563 5 ай бұрын
Kinda tired of people standing up for team Sam when he obviously got a warning and proceeded to cuss again. Like only IQ level zero would think, huh this is a good idea.
@cultofotaku9367
@cultofotaku9367 5 ай бұрын
I was less defending Sam and more annoyed that THAT was upheld but very little was done about the blatant cheating that happened at the event
@kuyagoldlink7563
@kuyagoldlink7563 5 ай бұрын
@cultofotaku9367 gotcha and I agree with that. Cheating is so hard to prove because you need intent to cheat, which how do you prove they intended to cheat?
@jeffjones9894
@jeffjones9894 5 ай бұрын
The rules are optional. Just collect the cards and do what you want. If someone is using a meta deck just because it's overpowered and popular. Just cheat and win. What are they gonna do call a judge and get you banned? Good, that means less people will play the game and maybe we can all move on to a better and cheaper card game that doesn't involve watching your opponent link and syncro summon for 10 minutes straight.
@polocatfan
@polocatfan 5 ай бұрын
wait you're siding with the judges on the profanity thing? wtf. like if they were playing against kids sure, but they were all grown adults. how horrifying that they had to hear the fuck word.
@uallandme
@uallandme 5 ай бұрын
Did he? kinda seemed like he was making fun of it for the most part. I feel being more understanding of an aggressive FUCK, over a oshitgoddamn isn't exactly agreeing. he digresses but there has to be some sort of line for unsportsmanship, these people are supposed to representing the game after all, and they feel the line is at FUCK. I'm going to go way off topic but at locals the worst people are the ones who will swear at you for interaction, nothings more uncomfortable than hearing a 300 pound man saying "fuck me" because you shifter'd them followed by a "fuck sake" because you also had ash in your hand, then whiles playing your turn, looks like they're one poke away from flipping the table.
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 5 ай бұрын
No. He was clearly against that ban, saying that the cursing was light and wasn't said in an aggressive/rude manner, but in shock. And then said he'd be able to understand if it was a more severe swear like FUCK. You didn't watch the video.
@masterpeace3591
@masterpeace3591 5 ай бұрын
Those judges are a joke being paid for what? to sit there and overlook important details in the dual and just play on a tablet. What a joke.
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