The Cheesiest Weapons in Chivalry 2

[@alabaster6117]

"The bitch stick" lol Ngl, ive rage quit matches where war clubs, spears, dane axes and morning stars were 3/4 of the loadout i was facing.

[@Nuggz1]

I have definitely rage quit over the bitch stick once or twice. Only way to beat it is to use a faster weapon and somehow close the distance

[@TheRopiak]

If I see a good war club user sometimes I just run away, I just can't deal with their accel bullshit sometimes lol.

[@upnarms2036]

been there, I like to get very close to the sides or from behind with a dagger/rapier and start spamming lmao

[@averyterribleperson5292]

Im in love with the bitch stick lmao im so calling it that from now on

[@JuneTheCapybara]

why does this game have the weakest player base. there's some games where your going to get death threates if you pussy out like that

[@isleep24]

"See the warstick is not a cheese weapon" me to my friends

[@tokyobankai4031]

1:16 that kick😂

[@Ogodohsh1tohfark]

Fr that man has industrial pistons for legs

[@VNdoug]

Dude, I just tried this tactic of "do nothing and wait until the enemy attacks" with the morning star and got so many easy kills, even against players that are waaay better than me. It's just ridiculous.

[@Nuggz1]

It really is that simple, just takes a little patience

[@Kjertinge]

Call me Mr Charcuterie cause I’m gonna give my enemies the meat and hella CHEESE

[@Keeve5]

One handed spear gets an honorary mention since spear is #1. I hate fighting one handed spear users. Fighting against weapons the morning star and mace can be so ridiculous. They are so fast and sometimes I can't even get a jab off between each hit.

[@Nuggz1]

1 handed spear for sure dude. The only thing it loses on is range and it's not very popular of a weapon. If more people used it I probably would have taken off the rapier

[@Icariusnatarius]

@@Nuggz1 You can play it like faster version of 2H spear in an ambusher style. Run in the battlefield as a man-at-arms to pick off easy targets from close range and run away as soon someone sees you to your next opponent.

[@unafflictedgaming]

@@Nuggz1 if you actually compare the length isnt that much shorter than the 2h spear. It's still longer than highland or executioner axe so it still has insane range.

[@JuneTheCapybara]

then dont choose to use the slowest weapon. this is the only game where people act like they don't have a choice in there use

[@Winderlin]

You’re definitely hitting 100 subs with this baddie. Finna watch this after school Edit; watched it after school IT WAS FIREEE

[@sixszn]

1.5k now that's crazy lol

[@One_Call_System]

How did I know the spear was #1 ? I'm not even good at all, but somehow I can just wreck people with the spear and shield.

[@VultyreRust]

The long sword is easily the best weapon in the game in the right hands. Very good allrounder

[@Nuggz1]

Good all-rounder but not cheesy in my eyes because of the lower damage output and range. A little cheesy with the gamble potential for sure but gambling isn't everything

[@OneTallQueer]

Nah, longsword is like an A tier but it’s not S for the reason of it not having the best stamina or mixups

[@NamesPhimble]

@@Nuggz1 knights are always the same since chiv 1 and mordhau ,they only think longsword is fair and dont feint either its annoying just stand still and trade hits. Not as bad as spinny messer knights from chiv 1 i dont miss that

[@unafflictedgaming]

@@NamesPhimble I started with longsword and still my most played by a little but I moved on to other weapons after a while. It gets boring and it's really not particularly great at anything

[@seanbrantingham4888]

@@unafflictedgamingthe stab on it is unmatched

[@hoogalaga]

Thanks for making good Chiv content man!

[@Nuggz1]

Thanks for watching

[@GoodMorningBeautiful4]

Once I figured out how to counter spear, they are only annoying in 1v3 and above. 1v1 is easy pickings, 1v2 I just focus on countering the spear into the other guy because it's almost always going to be a stab coming my way and I don't need to read the animations, 1v3 I have to worry about 2 other guys while also getting poked to death and I'm just staving off the inevitable.

[@Vyrus-1980]

I love how all these medieval nerds always hate the spear, even though it is THE weapon that actually defines humanity. Basically our first weapon, a long sharp stick, and a mainstay of infantry warfare for thousands of years. But it's "cheap and annoying" in video games so it's always hated on lol.

[@williamprice1497]

Hell yeah! Love the annoying weapons. Maybe I’ll see more than just messer, longsword, battleaxe on the battlefield now lol

[@Nuggz1]

I hope so the meta is getting stale let's cause some chaos

[@notabot7787]

Yea this is the good stuff great vudeo dude.

[@Nuggz1]

Thanks I'll try to keep it up

[@theweeklydaily2024]

I specifically stopped ysing the rapier AND the war club because it’s simply too easy to beat people when you’re good with those weapons. Speed is the most valuable asset in this game and those weapons are way too fucking fast in comparison to the rest.

[@Nuggz1]

Especially in a 1v1 they just feel super OP

[@theweeklydaily2024]

@@Nuggz1 sooo OP. the first time I dueled a guy who used the war club I was getting destroyed and I’m pretty good, so I was like “Do I suck?!?” 😂. so then I switched to the war club and kicked his ass and I was like ohh okay. I dont suck. the war club is just god tier 😂😂

[@Trabbott63]

1:17 where can I get access to the mega-kick you have unlocked?

[@Nuggz1]

Just practice kicking people when they have like 0 health left, there screwed if they block and screwed if they don't block 😂

[@fatwheat1]

Honestly rapier had been such a clutch for me in so many matches. The special skills is top tier when taking on multiple people. You can do your special and immediate flick your mouse to tag someone else who isn't paying attention. Plus no one expects how fast swing into overhead feint accels can be 😅 Fought a level 1000 dude who was literally ballerinaing with the weapon. Doing 180s and then 360' stabs 😅

[@Reaper-J129]

Basically: Weapons that are either Really fast, Really long, Or really easy. However my favorite option for my weapons are those that are easily thrown, because nothing makes me giggle more than standing across an enemy after going back and forth in a fight for a bit and then both backing off to get more stamina, only for me to then toss a giant hunk of ouch at them and winning the fight 😂🤣. Not even using only Dane axes will work with this, a good shield toss will do the job just as well.

[@quesi9988]

Warlub my beloved

[@Nuggz1]

I was tempted to call your ass out after that Bridgetown slaughter

[@moonlightning8269]

I actually use half of these 😂. But also it’d be great to see more about fighting against these types of weapons, especially against really fast weapons that gamble well. Obviously you want to say out of their range, but maintaining that range is pretty hard against a good player

[@Nuggz1]

Defending against 1 handers is a good topic will definitely keep that one in mind for the next guide video

[@DozerB555]

Been a warclub main since day 1, The Milkman has always been a inspiration to me (if you know who that is) Edit: I'd also like to point out that if I'm fighting someone with the warclub the weapon I use to counter it is the glaive if i didn't just use the warclub myself

[@JWP190]

NGL I think 2h spear is nowhere near the easiest or cheesiest weapon in this list. Any newb can pick up a longsword and do alright with it. They wont with a 2h spear. The counter window for weapons like longsword are so large that I can basically fall asleep and win a fight, because I have all day to counter anything that comes my way. Active Parry for days. With a spear, the timing is ridiculously small, and it just gets increasingly more difficult in a 1vX. Watching people like Stridah use spear on stream and him missing the counter windows over and over and getting teabagged by archers says a lot lol. Is it annoying AF to play against though? Yep, but I'd argue 1h spear is far more annoying and a class to itself. The counter timing on those things absolutely don't match the animations, and the turtling those players do is insanely annoying. At least against a 2h spear, you know they almost certainly have no stamina from jumping around, and they can't turtle.

[@Nuggz1]

I could see that. I say 2 hand spear because of the potential though. If you have come across recovering banker or step bow in a TO match they will go 70 - 0 and you won't even be able to touch them unless you target them hard. But it for sure has a steeper learning curve than the others on the list but once you learn the spear it is the top of the S tier weapons

[@JWP190]

​@@Nuggz1 I'm just thinking out loud here, more than really arguing against you, but I think it's a good thought experiment. If you remove Banker and Step Bow from the equation, 2h Spear kinda loses some of the luster, right? I mean, I struggle to think anyone else among the general best players in the game ever playing spear anywhere near as effectively as those two. There are some good spear players, but they aren't the same. If I look at it from a devil's advocate point of view, is it still S tier without their influence? Like in a hypothetical, if they never played Chiv 2, would it be the same rating? A lot of us can play spear pretty well, but not on their level. I'd argue most people would rate other polearms higher, such as the Halberd. I think if you look at the Rapier in the same way, if Ziggylata never picked it up, would anyone else have classified it as a top weapon? Some players kind of defined a playstyle with these weapons that everyone else emulates, but if those originators never came along, I wonder if they'd ever be called anything more than niche. 1h Spear is still kind of in that category. Rapier still is too, for the most part, mainly because nobody else wants to learn it.

[@Nuggz1]

@JWP190 In a competitive format where everyone knows how to deal with spear its not so bad, it really is a weapon that crumbles when directly focused on by more than 1 person and it is a skillful weapon when it comes down to positioning and stamina management. I think I mainly put it on the list for the sheer third parting potential. If you're in a 2v1 and one of the guys is a spear user there is nothing you can do except try to get away or hope the guy who doesn't have a spear is the weak link and dies fast. That makes the spear very oppressive and when you die to it when there wasn't much counter play it feels bad. I also ran into step bow last week in a pub match and the mfer went 60 and 4. I killed him 3 times.

[@unafflictedgaming]

@@Nuggz1 yeah even if you counter spear stabs that just opens you up to the other guys attacks which most likely wont be stabs lol

[@TheRopiak]

great video. I've been practicing accell/drag better esp with faster weapons.

[@Nuggz1]

Drags on fast weapons are good for mix ups but the rule is to accell as often as possible to make them break stamina.

[@TheRopiak]

@@Nuggz1 Good advice. I think for me I get too focused on the act of doing the accel and don't time it for when they drop block or start an attack.

[@XxMonkeyACCxX]

great vid mate

[@Vlad_Nomad]

Spear is not that bitchy, if you counter it’s attacks and use your legs to move around the spearman. I would put a heavy mace instead of spear. And I agree with the rest of the list

[@j77mel]

Nice video sir

[@Winderlin]

Are you streaming Tuesday?

[@Nuggz1]

Of course. The 1000 sub stream will be on Friday looks like. Going to be getting very messed up

[@Winderlin]

@@Nuggz1 lol ofc will def be there! I have no school Wednesday so I hopefully will be there all night!

[@SeasickKhan]

Man I love the gamble stick!!!

[@Nuggz1]

One of my favorite dueling weapons

[@ccloudleaf]

you're cracked

[@AzureRoxe]

Ironically, i find 1vX EASIER with the spear since i no longer need to worry about the X blocking my whole attack plus people tend to suck at defending against stabs for some reason.

[@ImNotReal12345]

Realest video yet

[@coolguy9616]

Very accurate and based list. The fact that there are lvl 1000s that main spear is so gay

[@diogenesfromsinope6212]

nice vid :)

[@Windsorsn]

Basically just tier list of most successful gambling weapons 😂. Tried warclub first time recently (im around 540 on console) and it was laughably cheesy.

[@Nuggz1]

A mix of gambling weapons but also weapons that you just can't even counter play because of spacing or attack speed.

[@Kjertinge]

the bonk bonk is such a good wep

[@helpiamsuffering603]

That and Dane axe. The amount of Dane axe players that will just disregard my greatsword / highland sword parry. Just slash spammers. Worst play style to fight against.

[@yesyesy8793]

Dane axe gamblers are pretty easy to deal with dont go into a counter battle with them and just do a lot of accelerated ripostes​@@helpiamsuffering603

[@brandoncarlos7057]

War club is S+ tier in FFA

[@otapic]

I used to play spears a lot, but yeah at some point spamming 2 different stabs again and again gets boring. It's easy to use but doesn't *feel* cool to use

[@gjigaqaquj]

Im surprised to not see the glaive here. Its definitely a sleeper. It has a bad rep for being a poop weapon but goes insaneo style with overhead spamming.

[@Nuggz1]

I had not used the glaive much at this time, now I would agree

[@APerson-rc6vb]

ex axe needed to be here

[@mrcoco7456]

🧀Respect for not calling my gentleman LS cheesy ❤

[@Nuggz1]

I've always thought it was pretty balanced. Takes skill to use

[@mrcoco7456]

@@Nuggz1 Yeah, people say its too fast but it lacks damage. So overall its balanced compared to like a messer :)

[@punnymoney3692]

My MASE is almost at 250 rank. What do i get when it's top ranked? What's the max 300? Is the weapon getting better or do i just get new skins?

[@Nuggz1]

I think 1000 is the max, it really doesn't mean anything and you only get skins. It's just so you can flex that it's your most used weapon really

[@punnymoney3692]

@@Nuggz1 awwww... just skins!!! I was hoping my mase would be elite and i think 300 is max on a weapon!

[@Nuggz1]

@punnymoney3692 yeah torn banner dropped the ball, they could have at least added elite looking skins. So much potential for new skins and they stopped so early

[@tgrant9021]

I’m surprised with the spear. I thought the warclub was going to be THE cheesiest weapon in the game because of longer range and its faster speed compared to other two-handed blunt weapons. What I did when fighting against guys who use the spear is by counter thrusting its attacks (since it is a thrusting weapon) and then follow with either a faint or an attack.

[@Nuggz1]

But what would you do if the spear user only ever attacked you when they had 2 teammates with them? In that case they are impossible to play around, the perfect third party weapon.

[@tgrant9021]

@@Nuggz1 in the instance that the spear user had two teammates with them, then yes, they are nearly impossible to beat. But that situation can also happen with other players who use other weapons that are mentioned in the list. Basically, any 1vX is a very hard situation to win and that happens even without the spear. If we are strictly talking about the spear, and fighting the spear user in a 1v1, then that’s where the spear can fall apart. Anyone who figures out the spears thrusting mechanic, and knows when to perform a perfect counter on the spear can win in that scenario compared to the rapier’s unpredictable move set or the war club’s speed.

[@m4_mob882]

Dope vid👌

[@Nuggz1]

Thanks

[@thomasstewart1380]

Honestly, I kinda hate that the Dane axe has the reputation it does. It's just a fun weapon to me. Longsword, Dane Axe, and Katars are my favorite weapons.

[@Nuggz1]

Its one of the funnest weapons in the game for sure dude

[@AlikineTV]

No dagger shout-out special mentions or smth 😢

[@Nuggz1]

Maybe it is cheesy but I don't get killed enough by them to notice

[@AlikineTV]

@@Nuggz1 I’m j playing is my favorite lmao

[@ktrocknerd]

there's like 4 guys who play dagger and 3 with katars, so they dont make the list.

[@AlikineTV]

@@ktrocknerdslander and lies I know at least 12 dagger users but yes with katars I only seen 6 of them

[@dviper2093]

Spear my beloved

[@RedCD_]

Thanks bro fun vid

[@17thFable]

I saw that the dash cancel was nerfed to onky be possible at 50% or so. Good change i guess?

[@Megalon-qc8pf]

I tried the spear once… dear god it was ridiculous

[@MaulBunyan]

Maul is the best cheese against people afk or in waiting lines at duels, just special attack. xd

[@Nuggz1]

Lmao so you're the guy 1 shotting me while I'm reading chat

[@MaulBunyan]

@@Nuggz1 Hey man, it works 100% of the time 60% of the time.

[@a_tiny_kid]

Ban this guy

[@unafflictedgaming]

*Initiates vote kick*. Plus I just don't like maul guys. Mordhau ptsd

[@Lucky8712]

long sword should be here tbh

[@OneTallQueer]

Warclub is really only cheese against anyone that doesn’t know how to parry it. I’d argue Messer is the worst cheese weapon given you get it for free at level 1 it’s hard to read especially in first person and the animations are very exploitable in duels.

[@Nuggz1]

That's pretty valid, the Messer is tough but it's only really exploited by a small amount of people. Most Messer users don't understand swing manipulation and morphing attacks

[@OneTallQueer]

@@Nuggz1 that’s fair, I mainly play duels and I mainly use maul so when I see a messer player that’s one of the more well known players like “I take your weapon” or Shy or Rayleigh I’m like “oh great, this is going to be aids”

[@boubaidjawalid1279]

best tutorial

[@Vlad_-_-_]

The dane axe is not cheesy, its bitch easy mode leaning towards borderline OP. Luckly most bots that spam it are basically free counters + kick ( free hit ).

[@Nuggz1]

There is an argument to be made that the Dane Axe is easy to read and easy to counter attack.

[@unafflictedgaming]

@@Nuggz1 axes in general except ludicrously long executioner axe swings are easy to read. Probably about the easiest weapons to read in the game imo but man do they stomp noobs. Counters and heavies just cleaving through bodies like butter

[@chivhub]

my predict before i watch not ranked: messer, spear, archer (javelin etc), maybe axe because noob slayer and 1 handed gambeling,

[@Nuggz1]

Pretty close but I don't include archer

[@feelingnether158]

I just fight with what i find on the floor

[@Nuggz1]

That will help you in the long rub learning all the weps

[@justfriccoff3363]

2 h spear gang

[@JasonCutuli]

Rat Stick

[@krackit3811]

any bow beats all of them lol

[@Nuggz1]

Truth

[@onkarpalav5257]

The spear gank strat is real XD. Even the mighty roman phalanx used it.

[@Nuggz1]

Most powerful in history and in game, only weakness is getting teamed up on

[@YooKkang]

War club is gay

[@ShadowTroll09]

thx i love to be annoying

[@Cosmic_Nomad]

I hate that squatting crap. Stand up and fight . It’s like the Chivalry equivalent of the drop shot from COD. Kills the game for me

[@swoozyduzzytgottaloveit2966]

Get gud. Everyone can squat, but not everyone does.

[@HoboHunterRik]

I have 178 levels on my warclub. Get good.

[@Nuggz1]

I'm over level 500 with the heavymace got good

[@dashcamyscotland7526]

First, yas, delighted.

[@Tipsyfr]

games kinda dog sh rn all the weapons needa be re balanced

[@Nuggz1]

There are a few outliers that are just better than everything but you can generally do good with anything

[@Brother_O4TS]

Every weapon in the game is viable, some more than others

[@James-l5s7k]

Sounds like lots of cope to me. Listing weapons that require lots of skill to use. But you're telling people to gamble; real chiv pros never gamble.

[@Nuggz1]

Tell that to every pro player who consistently win tournaments with the rapier. It's at the top of the meta for duels because it cheats initiative. Chiv pros never gamble is a common misconception. Chiv pros know how to gamble.