The Chemist: Stephenie Meyer's Forgotten Trainwreck

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James Tullos

James Tullos

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@pedroxqui
@pedroxqui 2 жыл бұрын
Small correction: "The Host" is a trilogy... She just never wrote the rest
@KamenRiderFeline
@KamenRiderFeline 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@taylorgayhart9497
@taylorgayhart9497 2 жыл бұрын
What?! 🤯 Like imagine having a built in fan base, and all you had to do was finish some crummy books and they’ll immediately be best sellers and you just don’t… I thought the premise of the book was interesting and the concept for the aliens was cool, but then I forgot about the book until the movie came out and then forgot again lol
@pedroxqui
@pedroxqui 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorgayhart9497 yeah, me and some friends were fans and really liked the book and we're eager to read the rest, but i guess will never know the rest of the story :( I guess having so much money already, you can just not finish stuff and not worry about it
@workinprogress3329
@workinprogress3329 2 жыл бұрын
I had so many people tell me the Host was a better book than Twilight but I just couldn’t read it once I was done with twilight. The movie wasn’t bad just not the best acting.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse meWUT
@fanny55363
@fanny55363 2 жыл бұрын
What I have learned from publishing is that being a best seller doesn't mean it's good
@orionh5535
@orionh5535 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, sometimes publishers make books into best seller through sheer marketing budget. I guess the idea is if the book is popular people will buy it out of curiosity. Same thing is done in music with the top 100 billboard.
@megarakadmea
@megarakadmea 2 жыл бұрын
I learned the same thing working in the library 😂
@Hello-hello-hello456
@Hello-hello-hello456 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. All depends on marketing.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 жыл бұрын
And that’s Not very reassuring XD
@danielj.nickolas
@danielj.nickolas 2 жыл бұрын
I think Stephanie Meyer taught us all that lesson. I’m just being a bitch-but you’re right. I’ve always been a bit hesitant to read any book when it first comes out, regardless of popularity, for this very reason.
@TheSpearkan
@TheSpearkan 2 жыл бұрын
As an actual chemist, you can clearly tell Stephanie hasn't even made eye contact with a chemistry textbook.
@alexforce9
@alexforce9 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaha "hasn't even made eye contact with a chemistry textbook." I loled for real.
@danger2236
@danger2236 2 жыл бұрын
the only reason I clicked on this video was because I do A-level chemistry, and I had an immediate and unfightable instinct to see how different it is to reality
@bwolos1
@bwolos1 2 жыл бұрын
She meets a man RIGHT after being beaten up, she's completely battered up, and he INSTANTLY falls in love with her... what the f HAPPENED to Stephanie Meyer as a child??
@TheLuckOfTheClaws
@TheLuckOfTheClaws 2 жыл бұрын
He falls in love with her AFTER SHES TORTURED him no less. Methinks she has some issues there
@JoelFeila
@JoelFeila 2 жыл бұрын
mormon jebuz
@bloodywilliam3083
@bloodywilliam3083 2 жыл бұрын
Mormonism
@robertrulebirtannia
@robertrulebirtannia 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLuckOfTheClaws Suddenly Meyer's working being the inspiration for 'Fifty Shades of Grey' makes a lot more sense.
@cam4636
@cam4636 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloodywilliam3083 Was about to say this
@QuantumBoogaloo
@QuantumBoogaloo 2 жыл бұрын
My mom read this book, and iirc, she only realized it was supposed to be a romance by Stephanie Meyer about halfway through. I think her opinion was that the main character was pretty cool, then lost all agency to pursue romance and so she didn’t even finish it. And my mom NEVER leaves a book unfinished.
@christine_notchristina
@christine_notchristina 2 жыл бұрын
same
@juliamavroidi8601
@juliamavroidi8601 2 жыл бұрын
Meyer is just so much better at writing anything that isn't romance, yet she insists on coming back to it
@ericmyrs
@ericmyrs 2 жыл бұрын
As a chemist, by god do I hate it when people try to use "chemistry" as a plot device. It's never thought out. It won't work, or you could do it twice as easily with a shotgun. A body will not spontaneously disappear in hydrofluoric acid, nor will some random High School teacher have a bathtubs' worth just sitting around in his lab.
@efrenyalung1348
@efrenyalung1348 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo, thoughts on Breaking Bad?
@tiagghho
@tiagghho 2 жыл бұрын
how about the magnesium bomb heisenberg uses against tuco, is that "possible"?
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, oh, dear chemist, I have a question! I tried finding the answer on the internet, but to no avail yet. If you happen to know the answer, I would be super grateful for some help. So: I want to make up a planet where there is liquid HF on the surface, but the atmosphere is supposed to be rather thin and it's supposed to be rather cold. Now, I tried finding a diagram that tells me when HF boils depending on temperature and pressure, but I only find diagrams that tell me when it boils according to concentration. Do you know how I can get a temperature and pressure estimate for that planet if the HF is supposed to be liquid and able to dissolve quartz? The purpose is to have silicon- and silicondioxide-based lifeforms on the planet and I want the HF as the solvent that you usually need to make life. The setting is only semi-hard, so if it isn't entirely possible in reality, that's ok. I just don't want some person with a basic scientific knowledge read it and go: "Yeah, how is there a liquid at this pressure and not boiling off?"
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 2 жыл бұрын
Mcgyver can e a bit silly, but he dont kill people. So that gimmick workd in a cheesy 80s series. I think. Or ortured antihero or like walt antivillain, i a bad person. Like alex could at least hve developed horrific weapoin that she now ha to stop otr are the reason why she goe atr "th agency"
@ericmyrs
@ericmyrs 2 жыл бұрын
@@efrenyalung1348 Absolutely hate it.
@toxicsugarart2103
@toxicsugarart2103 2 жыл бұрын
That little “Stephanie they’re not even married!” brought me so much joy
@CTheng
@CTheng 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie Meyer has good ideas but is very bad at executing them competently.
@PriyaPans
@PriyaPans 2 жыл бұрын
If she got a ghost writer and an editor she could do amazing things.
@brynnplant
@brynnplant 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've always believed there's a solid, pulpy action-horror writer at the core of her. She just unfortunately is bogged down by what is as far as I can guess the messed up, misogynistic and power imbalanced worldview she has as a result of her religious background. If she was able to write normal, healthy human relationships, I think the interesting writer in her would emerge.
@ldragon8480
@ldragon8480 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I mean look at the back stories she gave most of the Cullen's, but instead we geta whiny teen romance
@visionofsolace8961
@visionofsolace8961 2 жыл бұрын
@@ldragon8480 They were actually some of my favourite bits of the whole thing, tragedy, hope, rage, revenge, life.
@tiryaclearsong421
@tiryaclearsong421 2 жыл бұрын
@@brynnplant Some of her ideas are absolutely haunting and fairly well executed if they're tangential enough. I liked the side story in the Host about the kelp species that lost an entire hemisphere to suicide when the aliens were too sloppy with their takeover. Especially how Wanda looks back at that in the beginning as a mistake of her people for seeing the kelp as stupid and it takes her a long time in the book to realize why they would rather die than lose themselves to benevolent parasites. Honestly the romance is consistently the worst part of her books every time.
@cam4636
@cam4636 2 жыл бұрын
Me: I hate when people use "alchemy" to mean "fantasy science," alchemy was a real scientific study that laid the foundations for modern chemistry and-- Smeyer: CHemySTRie🤓 Me: ...please just call it "alchemy" and lean into it being fantasy science
@BooksandBuns
@BooksandBuns 2 жыл бұрын
What about the fantasy where alchemy is fantasy _chemistry_ specifically?
@cam4636
@cam4636 2 жыл бұрын
@@BooksandBuns I mean, that's basically what it _is._ My problem with fantasy calling its magic "alchemy" is like when fantasy calls its magic "Wicca"--no, bro, that's a real-life thing with real-life rules; it'd be like calling your magic "neuroscience" with the reasoning that not a lot of real people know much about neuroscience so it's basically the same as magic & all your made-up rules are _fine_ because who's going to know the difference? Also if this is in reference to FMA then they get a free pass because FMA is just that good
@jordanetherington1922
@jordanetherington1922 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah FMA makes it really cool and different so it gets a pass
@BooksandBuns
@BooksandBuns 2 жыл бұрын
@@cam4636 I've never watched FMA
@Amanda-iv7xg
@Amanda-iv7xg 2 жыл бұрын
But alchemy isn’t real in the sense that it didn’t work and isn’t a science. I think people treating astrology and alchemy as magic systems in fantasy novels is better than people actually believing it is a real science
@LuCet21
@LuCet21 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone is talking about the book. In the beginning, I thought it looked promising. I was able to read till Alex joins Kevin and Daniel after she tortured him... I didn't mind the violence, I loved the description of the gadgets. Meyer obviously did do some research. But the romance part really didn't work, which is why I stopped reading. The description of their attraction was weird and illogical... she tortured him, and the next day he was just like "you are beautiful and a good person. I want you". This was the moment when I realized that Meyer can only write teen romance. This was supposed to be adult fiction, with adult characters. But the romance was written like they are 15-year-old kids getting crushes. If there was no romance, I think it would have worked better.
@christine_notchristina
@christine_notchristina 2 жыл бұрын
same ideas
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 2 жыл бұрын
Stephenie Meyer: "Do you people think the Twilight series are too misogynist? Fine, I will write a book with a more proactive female protagonist".
@catfan913
@catfan913 2 жыл бұрын
she wrote half of the book while only referring to the main character with pronouns, right? i assume that means half the book had no other female characters
@Struudeli
@Struudeli 2 жыл бұрын
Haruki Murakami's Wild sheep chase is a great example of a book that doesn't have names but works perfectly. It's an amazing book, where people are only called by nicknames like "Mouse" or by their physical attributes like "The girl with beautiful ears", but it works so well in a book that is magical realism. Even the cat is called just, well, the cat. It can be done well in books too, the writer just has to be a very good one.
@tabulous77
@tabulous77 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I remember from The Host is three things: everyone grimaced a lot, as though no other facial expression exists, the main character balled her hands into fists over and over again, and continually was thrown over a mans shoulder and carried off. Women get carried around like toddlers in Stephanie Meyer books.
@bethanychatman9531
@bethanychatman9531 Жыл бұрын
4th thing for me, it was a grown man preying on a child. He was waay older than the female protagonist, she was a teenager and he was in his mid- 20's I think.
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 7 ай бұрын
Hold on tight, spider monkey!
@KamenRiderFeline
@KamenRiderFeline 2 жыл бұрын
Alex? I thought her name would be Ebony Darkness Edge Ear considering how cool she is supposed to be. Also loved the "Are you effing serious?" stare at the beginning.
@icarussarts
@icarussarts 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMENT! The guy should be called Vampire tbh, if you know what I mean. Whenever I write, I think "At least this is not My Immortal" and motivation just hits like a train.
@robertgronewold3326
@robertgronewold3326 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, just hearing this description, myself, as an author, might have written this as the main character falling in love with the twin brother, not the dude she tortured. A lot of Stephanie Meyer's work just really misses the mark in the logic department.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they seem to have a similar lifestyle and would be a better fit.
@Hello-hello-hello456
@Hello-hello-hello456 2 жыл бұрын
Or, she could at least acknowledge that the twin is logically better, but for some reason the mc falls for the other guy. That at least tells us the author is somewhat self aware haha
@fayem4091
@fayem4091 2 жыл бұрын
"stefanie they are not even married!" Congrats now i am dead from laughing and my ghost writing this
@KamiRecca
@KamiRecca 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure to pay it well, ghost writers deserves more respect
@fayem4091
@fayem4091 2 жыл бұрын
@@KamiRecca oh she paid me well, i assure you. Most money went on me than the funeral
@BeautifulEarthJa
@BeautifulEarthJa 2 жыл бұрын
Torture does not work. So just from an efficacy perspective it annoys me too. But it also reflects on the morality of ppl and organisations, since they know torture doesn't work but still do it.
@natanaga9892
@natanaga9892 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I've seen torture scenes work better on something like a punishment (mostly in gangster/mafia settings)
@fmac6441
@fmac6441 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that simple. As a method of obtaining information, torture has an insurmountable problem, as an innocent person who does not have information ends up inventing anything to stop the torture, so he ends up creating several false positives. But if the person really knows some it can be effective. An authoritarian government, in a cost-benefit analysis, may understand that some false positives (people without information tortured and/or killed) can be compensated because other tortured people gave the necessary information to locate a cell of the rebel group. Unfortunately, precisely because it works at a certain level, it is used.
@rubyashe5744
@rubyashe5744 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to watch this entire video solely because you pronounced Saoirse correctly.
@ayajade6683
@ayajade6683 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Stephanie Meyer is missing a huge potential she'd do well with body horror with how she writes but I'll give her props for writing standalones because she wants to
@teodorapetkovic
@teodorapetkovic 2 жыл бұрын
This book got translated into my native language and it sat in the "last offer mega discount" pile for a year. Not even worth the amount of paper it got print on. So yeah, a "best seller" sure
@greg_mca
@greg_mca 2 жыл бұрын
In many places a shop or company buying copies to sell to the public counts towards being a best seller, hence all the celebrity written books that nobody has ever actually bought for themselves. It's shitty that a book can be called a best seller like that without anyone having actually read it
@teodorapetkovic
@teodorapetkovic 2 жыл бұрын
@@greg_mca that explains a lot, thank you!
@bluecobaltsteph2689
@bluecobaltsteph2689 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to know what her religious agenda was in this because she’s a Mormon and her agenda in Twilight was “DONT HAVE SEX UNTIL YOU’RE MARRIED!!!!!” Literally, that was her agenda. Also I feel like she’s a horrible writer, ESPECIALLY of dialogue, but she excels at pacing. She doles out information (or at least did in Twilight) just often enough too keep you hooked. Each piece of info was revealed just as another compelling mystery came into view. So you (I) kept reading, hating your(my) self all the while because the writing was such shit. Was it the same way in this book??
@fourtruths3324
@fourtruths3324 2 жыл бұрын
This book is written like it wanted to be either a bad movie or a really bad tv show that would have a cult fanbase
@Ginger_Cat2604
@Ginger_Cat2604 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed reading "The Chemist". As in all of Stephenie Meyer's books, there are interesting characters and relationships, genuine feelings, creative plot, well-written action scenes, fun moments with humor.
@jimjimson6208
@jimjimson6208 2 жыл бұрын
the whole not giving a her name things comes across as a super weird decision to me. I read a book recently called The Hunter by Julia Leigh in which which the main character is a cover operative who hunts endangered animals in order to harvest their organs for a nameless corporation, and throughout the entire book you literally never learn his name. At the very start you get his codename, 'M' and then after that he is just called by the alias he uses for that mission. Not giving them a name seems like it would achieve the same thing but in a much more cumbersome way.
@hoykfnvnnesnxnnensncjforkx1616
@hoykfnvnnesnxnnensncjforkx1616 2 жыл бұрын
Could've had people call her different things like legit just have someone that doesn't like her call her a bitch or a cunt throughout or have someone call her hun or baby doll like make everyone just refer to her as dumbshit.
@cam4636
@cam4636 2 жыл бұрын
I've read a number of books without named main characters, sometimes just because you're in first person POV & most people don't think about their own names all that much, sometimes because the author's making a statement _(Annihilation_ has no names, just job titles, as part of the theme of being stripped of civilization while in the wilderness & being turned into cogs in a machine they don't understand; _The Blood of Flowers_ uses it as a statement on art as an industry and how the people who make things don't have their names recorded as well as a reference to certain anonymous artists in the period it takes place in...heck, the _Best/Worst Christmas Pageant Ever_ series never names the narrator because it's just supposed to be a kid rambling about the other kids at school & they wouldn't bother mentioning their own name). It can work, but like anything, it's all in the execution--and part of the execution is _why_ it's being used.
@MarzieMalfoy
@MarzieMalfoy 2 жыл бұрын
Columbo didn't use guns either, but his character was so much more believable.
@tereziamarkova2822
@tereziamarkova2822 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, you are doing Save The Pearls AND The Fifth Sorceress?! Awww, man, you are spoiling us!
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 2 жыл бұрын
Problem with syringes and such, they don't work instantly. Poison gases are much more efficient.
@thebiosphere8349
@thebiosphere8349 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite audioboom. Its actually awesome
@iggyelle
@iggyelle 2 жыл бұрын
Iirc, apparently this story is a rework of a Jason Bourne fanfic that she wrote for a friend? I don't remember where I heard this, possibly a podcast, but yeah, guess she took some notes from E.L. James.
@mikifauns
@mikifauns 2 жыл бұрын
"I think if I say it enough times the NSA will put me on a watch list so I am going to keep doing it." Unfathomably based.
@thejester2751
@thejester2751 2 жыл бұрын
"Dead babies" -This alone should make the story as big as Twilight
@marl3ymarl3y86
@marl3ymarl3y86 2 жыл бұрын
The bioweapon from Mike Pence are the chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay
@TJhowling
@TJhowling 2 жыл бұрын
I totally forgot this book even existed! A friend of mine told me about it when it came out and it literally just flew out of my dang brain. I understand why I forgot it now...
@CollegeDroputPowerpoints
@CollegeDroputPowerpoints 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know what James is talking about. I love it when a book champions people like Dick Cheney.
@lockmonster05
@lockmonster05 2 жыл бұрын
"Stephanie, they're not even married!" 😂
@vampireassassin4750
@vampireassassin4750 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly I bought The Chemist when it first came out hoping beyond hope that Meyer might be a good writer deep (deep) down and this might actually be good... yeah I read about seven chapters before giving up and eventually I sold it to half price books but yeah I have heard of it but didn't finish it
@quinnzykir
@quinnzykir 2 жыл бұрын
Water White: JESSIE. WE NEED TO WRITE
@tomxgeass
@tomxgeass 2 жыл бұрын
Hi yes, NSA here. You're now on a watchlist. Have a nice day.
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 2 жыл бұрын
Torture works if the info can be verified instantly. If you want to get someone's phone password, then torture works all the time for that sort of thing.
@thoughtfuldevil6069
@thoughtfuldevil6069 2 жыл бұрын
Great, now "D E A D B A B I E S" is stuck in my head. Great.
@Plasticplas1
@Plasticplas1 2 жыл бұрын
You know its bad because I never saw any marketing for it as a Stephanie Meyer book. I'm in New Zealand and ads are handled by the local publishing companies, they would have decided marketing wasnt worth it
@themannaking
@themannaking 2 жыл бұрын
Omg that look you give right before the IntroductionSongTM slayed me xD
@blackknightjack3850
@blackknightjack3850 Жыл бұрын
What I find weird is that, as a Mormon, I would have expected Stephanie Meyer to largely agree with Mike Pence
@pa-pa-plasma
@pa-pa-plasma 2 жыл бұрын
As a writer who's put in years of work analyzing many books and working on making my storytelling good, as well as a big Alex Rider fan, I have like, 10 paragraphs worth of things to say about The Chemist, but I'll just say this instead: wat in the gotdamn fuck was that
@leadabrowski
@leadabrowski 2 жыл бұрын
reading the host as a kid was my communist awakening
@faeroar2251
@faeroar2251 2 жыл бұрын
Normally when people try to be "politically neutral" they come off really slimy, but the way you don't bring your own affiliations into critique actually seems very genuine. I still prefer being up front, but I do appreciate that.
@chestersnap
@chestersnap 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here because I've never even heard of this book
@anevenbluerjay
@anevenbluerjay 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I cannot wait for the save the pearls video. That book is beyond insane
@FrenkTheJoy
@FrenkTheJoy 2 жыл бұрын
Well, props to Stephanie Meyer for not sticking to the "average teen girl who everybody loves is involved in a weird love triangle" genre. It'd be easy to just keep remaking Twilight in different areas with different supernatural beings, it's cool that she keeps trying different things even though none of them are good.
@FrenkTheJoy
@FrenkTheJoy 2 жыл бұрын
I was specifically thinking a were-panther and a broody guy who's sort of a fallen angel but not really for my "Twilight in a different area with different creatures" idea btw. That would be dumb as hell, feel free to use my idea.
@thefeelingoflookingataclea932
@thefeelingoflookingataclea932 2 жыл бұрын
2:25 Sweet baby hallelujah I just had a stroke hearing that 😭😭😭 Nigerian names are hard for foreigners ik, but this caught me off guard 💀💀💀💀
@toshj177
@toshj177 2 жыл бұрын
I think she should just go back and make a alternate twilight book where Bella and Jacob get together. So she can dive in more werewolf culture. Also, Jacob and resume romance needs to be drop. It seems anything else but twilight is flopping for her.
@reviewman
@reviewman 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s safe to say that Myers 15 minutes of fame are done.
@unslaadkrosis9435
@unslaadkrosis9435 2 жыл бұрын
How have i never heard of this till now?!
@annabanana7659
@annabanana7659 2 жыл бұрын
Meyer should just ditch the romance plots in her writing and focus on body horror. I was so engaged on that gory birth scene in Breaking Dawn that I almost forgot I was dredging through the Twilight Saga for a bet.
@panzarhawk8709
@panzarhawk8709 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely think that's the best intro to a KZbin video I've ever seen. The fucking look into the camera sent me
@hellbound_psyker
@hellbound_psyker 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Berserk print on the wall
@mathuasher9184
@mathuasher9184 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Itll be the first one I watch today. If our host has grown weary of trainwrecks than perhaps he should read anything by R.A. Salvatore. I know that I will be after consuming this entertaining content.
@MelaniePoparad
@MelaniePoparad 2 жыл бұрын
I also was picturing mike pence. It actually helped to have a concrete face to put with the character.
@breezy3392
@breezy3392 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know that Meyer had another book
@bentastisk4012
@bentastisk4012 2 жыл бұрын
I love your intro. Best one i have heard.
@agentverona
@agentverona 2 жыл бұрын
Scrolling through KZbin suggestions after binging some Amanda the Jedi. Can’t go to bed yet though now because WTF is the Chemist?!
@AxlPatrol
@AxlPatrol 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much
@kaskus7147
@kaskus7147 2 жыл бұрын
I actually said "Jesus Christ" at the same time you did. Her first thought was "Maybe he is Moon Knight".
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this book existed.
@TheSlurpy11
@TheSlurpy11 2 жыл бұрын
i always sing The Introduction Song with you
@TheCoyoteOutlaw
@TheCoyoteOutlaw 2 жыл бұрын
This reeks of "I had a glimmer of an idea and decided to start writing before I figured most of it out."
@oddeyes9413
@oddeyes9413 2 жыл бұрын
Meyer thought we wouldn't notice, but we did.
@victoriashevlin8587
@victoriashevlin8587 2 жыл бұрын
Good gods.... Just from your description of Alex, I can definitely see why even a shady as hell government shadow program would want to get rid of her.
@ruby8065
@ruby8065 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that authors can have "Bestsellers" even if the only books they sold were 10 thousand copies they buy themselves and then go and resell them.
@notsteve5927
@notsteve5927 2 жыл бұрын
Human beings at the beginning stages of their physiological development in an alternate state of existence.
@MelodyLee19
@MelodyLee19 7 ай бұрын
I had no idea that Stephanie Meyer wrote any books after Twilight. I’ve literally never heard of this book, or the Host one. Which is pretty surprising, since I love watching people talk about bad books. But no, nobody talks about these anymore. We’re all refusing to acknowledge them, I guess. That’s probably a smart move, but still.
@Levyathyn
@Levyathyn 2 жыл бұрын
"--I'm also supposed to be doing that for Save The Pearls soon--" My god... my god, I don't know if I can handle that. I found about that book YESTERDAY, hearing about it in one of Amanda's videos (Swell Entertainment) and I can't believe Baader-Meinhoff would do this to me.
@myagaskin
@myagaskin 2 жыл бұрын
great video as always
@thechroniclegamer4285
@thechroniclegamer4285 2 жыл бұрын
The host is such a weird movie It feels like it just throws you into the middle of things and then you get a third act, as if you only watched the last movie in a 2 part series
@Zelda00Gamer
@Zelda00Gamer 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a massive book with lots of lore/backstory so they struggled to condense it.
@thechroniclegamer4285
@thechroniclegamer4285 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zelda00Gamer I probably should’ve read the book, I don’t like stories that immediately throw you into a plot, without setup
@T0xXx1k
@T0xXx1k 2 жыл бұрын
The host is just a rework of the original version of breaking dawn. Twilight was originally 3 books and un the end of breaking dawn somehow Edward and Jacob are like 1 person ala the host with 2 consciousness in 1 body etc etc the publisher wanted 4. She wrote new moon which then caused her to want to change the ending since she fleshed out these other characters but still being attached to the original draft she turned it into the host. You're welcome for the nightmares. I can't help it it's endlessly amusing to me. 🧡🦇
@obi-wan-pierogi
@obi-wan-pierogi 2 жыл бұрын
@@T0xXx1k wait WHAT?! Why’d she change that?! sounds like that might be actually bearable, kinda weird but bearable at least.
@T0xXx1k
@T0xXx1k 2 жыл бұрын
@@obi-wan-pierogi she said that after adding in new moon and having expanded on the wolves and all that she didn't think the original ending fit anymore. Like she went in trying to more or less write a filler book but ended up adding too much to the story that needed to be wrapped up differently. But she still loved the original ending and wanted to publish it so the names and details were changed to protect the privacy of the victims lol jk The alien idea just felt so weird like out of left field and especially with her being Mormon seems like an odd choice cuz they have this celestial we get our own planet on ths afterlife thing idk it's all bizarre lol 🧡🦇
@GreatGreebo
@GreatGreebo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review
@Terestrasz
@Terestrasz 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel bad because in my comics I had depicted torture as working. ...except the "Torture" was tying up the big brother (who stole his siblings' halloween candy) and making them watch their little sister play his favourite video game... POORLY. The joke wasn't "Haha they're torturing him" so much as "The method of torture is silly" (ie Monty Python) In a more serious setting, if I were to include a torture scene, I'd have the dude say "...Yeah you know that because of what you did, the person would say anything ot make it stop, right?"
@KrystineBrown
@KrystineBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Memory unlocked. I saw this in the library and wasn't sure if it was her or another author with the same name
@katherineeaster5799
@katherineeaster5799 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't stand The Chemist. It made humans having relationships with vampires and aliens totally reasonable, and I can't justify the relationship between those two humans as being healthy.
@the-wyrd-one650
@the-wyrd-one650 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly weird question, but that shirt is cool as hell, where's it from?
@doreenlarson5849
@doreenlarson5849 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best instance of never finding out a character’s name is The Tatami Galaxy, it’s an anime with first person narration and a memorable main character. I didn’t even notice the main character didn’t have a name until I was looking at the anime’s wiki
@raptorkvn
@raptorkvn 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin's bigger than her eh? You could say "he's a big man".
@nomparfait
@nomparfait 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the Chemist, I found it very entertaining!
@citizensguard3433
@citizensguard3433 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, lol not only is there a blackmarket for firearms, you can literally purchase (being vague here; this isn't an instruction manual) a component of an assault rifle easily and "anonymously" online or all over the place even in person. It isn't "traced" or regulated the same way because it doesn't legally qualify as a firearm. All that it's missing is a single hole drilled in it. A hole anyone could drill. Then, it's as simple as snapping the pieces together. It's so simple, if you can put together a Lego set, you can build your own gun. They're called ghost guns because they can't be traced usually, and dont have things like serial numbers. I know this as a nornal, non spy person. Any true spy or operative would know this and a whole lot more.
@andromeda_va39
@andromeda_va39 2 жыл бұрын
"She's getting referred to by all these names, Alex, Julianna, Oleander, Ollie, it's so confusing." Me, a Genshin player: *First time?*
@elijahreads
@elijahreads 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the “Stephanie they’re not even married” for me 🤣
@paulreveresluggage3921
@paulreveresluggage3921 2 жыл бұрын
Not alive tiny humans.
@t.r.s.5129
@t.r.s.5129 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie Meyer has interesting ideas but terrible execution 😓
@gdbwnv9707
@gdbwnv9707 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember any of this happening in psychonauts
@beardiemom
@beardiemom Жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of Stephenie Meyer, but at the very least she goes out of her comfort zone and doesn't keep beating a dead horse. (Definitely not looking at JKR)
@Galaxia7
@Galaxia7 2 жыл бұрын
8:45 you know when you're in a fandom and everything relates to it somehow? Being in the Moon Knight fandom and hearing that bit Ah yes, DID being again grossly misrepresented in a piece of fiction. What a shock. So surprised. And of course the t-word bad guys were in Egypt >> Jake wouldn't like this character and her methods Edit: I guess the evil twin 'twist' isn't ableist ? Lmao
@Uldihaa
@Uldihaa 2 жыл бұрын
I think I know why no one is talking about it: it came out Nov. 8th 2016. Considering who was elected as President of the US at that time, I suspect the vast majority of those that would have commented on the novel were distracted by an inescapable sense of impending doom. And speaking of which, I doubt VP candidate Wade Pace was a reference to Pence. My understanding is that it usually takes about a year for a final draft to get published by a publisher, so she would have submitted the final draft in 2015 or so.
@Uldihaa
@Uldihaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@punishedwhispers1218 Imagine being so disconnected from reality that you believe things are getting worse because of Biden instead of a global supply shortage and Russia invading Ukraine, among other factors no single country controls. Do you think Trump sold copies of those Top Secret documents he had? And if so, do you think he should be tried for espionage?
@erinjimison8009
@erinjimison8009 2 жыл бұрын
I like Stephanie meyer books for the junk food that they are. I did like the chemist for the spy thriller effort, but I would’ve loved to see more of the psychological side of it. Maybe more of alex wrestling with her torturer past? Maybe Daniel could have more reservations of falling for alex cause of what she did to him? Maybe take out the epilogue all together cause it was a weird tone compared to the rest of the book 🤷‍♀️
@christiegreenwood2642
@christiegreenwood2642 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing against reading junk for entertainment, but honestly, I was just bored out of my skull. Meyer does not know what pacing is.
@notsteve5927
@notsteve5927 2 жыл бұрын
13:05 Timestamp of James saying “It’s pretty thicc” Yes, I take great pride in my middle school level of humor
@BlindTruths
@BlindTruths 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I’ve read The Host probably 20x. I really enjoy it. There’s a lot of editing I’d do, but it’s a super good concept. I also watch the movie at least 1x a year because it has a stellar cast.
@zenosakura
@zenosakura 2 жыл бұрын
What an opening
@EFO841
@EFO841 2 жыл бұрын
your shirt is trippy o_O
@mini_mew775
@mini_mew775 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not lie, all her work is a train wreck
@tamamawrites79
@tamamawrites79 2 жыл бұрын
This book started off so damn promising. Hokey, but promising. And then ... AND THEN!! Was fun to rant about in a video though 🤣
@christine_notchristina
@christine_notchristina 2 жыл бұрын
i read this years ago because of the title. Im taking BS Chemistry and there are only few novels where the protagonist is a Chemist or Chemistry - applications or theories are largely mentioned or play a pivotal role in the story. I was kinda hooked in the first few chapters. But...uhm, i dont know, it just became more of a love story on the run than it was about her being a Chemist? I mean, ofc, characters can be complex, I wouldnt want myself to only be viewed as a Chem student, as I am much more than that. But the whole book felt like Stephenie's attempt for...detective fiction that was supposed to be credible and impressive just because she's a Chemist...? I had to skip a lot of chapters actually. I just needed to jump right into the end so that my time wasn't fully wasted.
@chelseaolsen8330
@chelseaolsen8330 2 жыл бұрын
I liked this book.
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