The Chilling Black Dahlia Murder Revisited

Watch Ryan & Shane uncover more details of the Black Dahlia as they revisit that case. Be sure to watch the season premiere of 'I Am the Night,' premiering January 28 at 9/8c on TNT. po.st/IAmTheNig...
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[@brendonian4097]

Even if George Hodel didn't murder the Black Dahlia (and I believe he did), he definitely murdered someone.

[@bitty4994]

Brendonian , that and also that he was a monster

[@gunungmerapiapi1933]

Stay sexy

[@leelane9418]

Gunung Merapiapi I love that for you

[@tdevildog03]

In my opinion I think he did it. Hodel was a trained doctor. Shorts murder was very surgical.

[@jesusdiscipledon1499]

Brendonian he didn’t do all the murdering, all the time, but he definitely did some of the murders, some of the time.

[@WolfGirlSpells]

“ *i did meet some of the most Insufferable People..but they also met me* “ -Shane Madej *best quote ever*

[@Keetz]

That's it. This is my yearbook quote

[@UAE77877]

Meet*?

[@WolfGirlSpells]

G Shamsi Nope, it’s past Tense

[@UAE77877]

@@WolfGirlSpells i meant replace need with meet, like," i did meet some of the ..."

[@antoniosantiago7219]

That’s his last name

[@Flanneryschickens]

"Fingernails chewed to quick." That detail guts me every time I hear it, even more than the gruesome details of her murder. It's such a human, relatable detail.

[@-caesarian-6078]

Flanneryschickens / what does “chewed to quick” mean?

[@yikesu3587]

@@-caesarian-6078 it's chewed down to the skin

[@locafly]

- Caesarian - yeah man, I was going to ask the same thing. What the hell does that mean? I have never heard that before

[@bebe44144]

@@locafly yea, quick is just what the skin part underneath the pink part of the nail is called in the medical field, its just an anatomical term

[@carrotcake6572]

Martimus Prime yes? I mean it’s a super common habit

[@mintcondition3]

Steve Hodel states in the 'Root of Evil' podcast that when he found out his father was a suspect in the case, he tried to clear his name, but as he kept investigating he became convinced that George commited the murder and other murders along with that.

[@myettechase]

Oof.

[@lolarose8973]

to me, I think that makes his certainty have even more weight.

[@ErinJeanette]

I thought I heard somewhere that this is why he became a police officer

[@Ryzen1]

Got this case from the game called l.a noire, i never thought that this case or event happened in real life, pretty creepy stuff

[@g.t.3186]

@@Ryzen1 I love that game but I had to stop playing when it got to this case. It's so gruesome to have to actually see and examine the bodies, I kinda wish you could skip it.

[@starfish0607]

She only became famous cause of her killer, cause she had to suffer this painful death. The fame she struggled to achieve when she was alive. And yet, the other murder victim is barely known. If that ain't some depressing poetry

[@Zombievoodooqueen]

Other murder victims aren't known because they weren't mutilated they way black dahlia was! I mean how many murder victims do you know that were cut in half with their intestines tucked behind there butt along with all the other horrific things her body endured!

[@aphelixon]

Laura no the op meant the other victim mentioned in this video, not just general murder victims. the other victim was also bisected shortly after george hedel moved.

[@irinnaprado]

@@Zombievoodooqueen 14:10 Jeanne French

[@AA-ed6ek]

I was thinking the same thing and she dies horribly also.

[@spaghetti7180]

Rip F to pay resp. .

[@ZVYW]

Imagine cutting a body in half, letting the blood drain out and scrubbing it. The thought alone makes my whole body extremely uncomfortable

[@Ohm_Gulf_Gang]

And that too of someone you have known and talked to just hours before murdering her!!

[@beeingee]

K

[@clydlexmochi2063]

I mean ur just drying and scrubbing it... Its not as bad as murder

[@liccforlucc4786]

"Imagine cutting a body in half"- yeah imma hafta stop you right there

[@LilydoesThings]

ZachyDomberg its not that hard! the trickiest part it trying not to damage the spine, its so hard not to make the spine snap while cutting a body in half :/

[@kooph0ria]

I love how they’re not “completely” sure it was him even though a murder JUST like the other two occurred in ANOTHER country only after the SAME MAN showed up.

[@adianer6445]

And it was in the 40s 50s so no internet to make a copycat happen

[@unwantedgen]

@@adianer6445 Those murders are roughly 20 years apart. Sure information traveled a lot slower back then, but not THAT slow. A copycat could have been possible, but I doubt it.

[@ballesterosirisd.582]

And as far as I can remember , he can be convicted for the murder of that 2 cases you were talking about but not Black Dahlia's case unless he confessed and described how he did it or unless they find a really strong evidence that'll prove that he's the murderer

[@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587]

@@ballesterosirisd.582 actually, they can.

[@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587]

@@ballesterosirisd.582 they have the evidence, in which you did mention tbh

[@lady_k5588]

I think the crappiest thing about this case is that Elisabeth Short went to Hollywood to be a famous actress, but instead becomes infamous as "The Black Dahlia". Barely anyone even knows her real name. 😢

[@Johnny-WaIker]

You shouldn't call her "infamous", she was just the victim.

[@reggiebenson9172]

Just reading through the comments- gotta say that fame is not a good thing - any way you look at it.

[@cpldalton5966]

There’s no evidence of her ever pursuing her “dream” of becoming an actress. Also she did not move to LA to become one, she moved to LA because she had bad asthma, she also moved to Florida for the same reason.

[@TheSaneHatter]

@@cpldalton5966 Quite right: she was a WAITRESS by profession, not an actress, and certainly not a prostitute. This case is surrounded by three-quarters of a century's worth of misinformation.

[@cpldalton5966]

@@TheSaneHatter actually she didn't work. There's no evidence to suggest her being a waitress

[@ailemasvega]

I love the "very attactive". Like, someone had to look at that corpe, that had been cut in half and drained of blood and go "Well THAT is a beautiful lady".

[@originalsun5206]

Don't forget the ear to ear Joker smile 😊

[@thegoose2630]

“Now THATS a dame!”

[@Ice-fg9jc]

@@thegoose2630 LOL 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ziqqyziqqy]

"well aint that a sight for sore eyes"

[@Ella-bo8dm]

omg this is the best thing ever

[@sloops_brain7541]

She was also named "The Black Dahlia" because there was a movie that came out around the time she was killed that was called 'The Blue Dahilia' and she had a striking resemblance to the main actress so her close friends called her the black dahlia because she regularly wore black. 💁

[@hannahlemmings7609]

@@dietisgreat she was white

[@PoochieCollins]

Rainelle, good to know, thanks for the share.

[@kark2036]

@@dietisgreat Have you watched the video?

[@dietisgreat]

@@kark2036 about the black man who murdered the Black woman

[@Naharu.]

@@dietisgreat l mean, not likely when she is described as being so white she doesnt look human...

[@ascendedisamazing]

George Hodel: _Let's say, theoretically that perhaps i have possibly killed the Black Dahlia_

[@sunny-vb9pu]

this reads like a ben shapiro quote

[@tjjordan4207]

Soooo, he played the OJ trick? Was there a ‘Charlie’ involved?

[@madamebkrt]

"If I Did It" - By George Hodel

[@sarahbandy9043]

Hypothetically of course

[@spencerreidenthusiast4338]

OJ Simpson tease!

[@jazlynroze5492]

Just the idea of her being tortured alive including the slits on the sides of her mouth gives me chills. I hope she's resting now

[@GaryHField]

She’s not resting. Her soul is crying for justice. And I’m pretty sure that the perpetrator of this crime is suffering eternally now, being consumed in never ending fire.

[@kuiper3500]

She's absolutely resting since 1950

[@pyxalated]

@@GaryHField her soul is already resting, she's safe in heaven now, but justice still needs to be served.

[@aaahhhhhhh]

I’m really late but I read that the the autopsy showed they thought the disfigurations happen after death.

[@aaahhhhhhh]

In a different podcast.

[@hecateblythe488]

i just feel so bad for Elizabeth. she did become famous, but not for the right reason.

[@sebastiankit4249]

Being famous after she was brutally murder by a pyscopath monster. People back in the past are bunch of drama seekers.

[@amywebb2603]

Kind of like Lupe Velez. It's definitely a case of be careful what you wish for.

[@quickchris10]

I never heard before that her hair was dyed?

[@natalie-zc9vo]

It’s so sad i hope she gets her justice soon ;(

[@bonzo319]

I feel bad for the child who saw her

[@jessicat3691]

Shane had such a good mindset like “I met the most insufferable people BUT they also met _me_ 🤗”

[@xxsohalalmodexx]

How do u have 2.6K likes and no replies lmao

[@k.a-l2735]

@@xxsohalalmodexx I suppose that mystery shall remain unsolved.

[@synech_doche]

You guys should make a series called "Case Closed", where you cover some of the cases you have gone over that have been recently solved, or cover cases that have been cold for decades

[@cheshire__kat]

Yeah, it's cool... like Buzzfeed SOLVED or something. Lmao.

[@miguelofthedark]

i agree

[@PigeonShat]

Case Closed is an anime

[@Joycey1996]

They could also go over some cases that were solved but were intriguing and had massive media attention

[@mapleleaf0]

This is great idea!

[@deadsoon]

If my father was a narcissistic abuser with shady dealings that literally impregnated my sister I'd hate him as well. Doesn't illegitimize the very solid evidence if you were to ask me.

[@risipieces]

steve hodel said he actually started out trying to clear his father’s name but after so much research, just became convinced he had done it

[@nothobbesmufc949]

Steve's issue is he also then accused his father of being the Zodiac killer and a whole bunch of other crimes he didn't commit. I too think Hodel killed the Black Dahlia. But his son sabotaged himself with his continued quest for attention.

[@Treblaine]

​@@risipieces if he did have it in for his dad then he'd have every reason to be dishonest about how much he really tried to "clear his father's name" just to add credence to his story. Remember, this is a former LAPD cop, you think a retired member wouldn't exaggerate on a point like this? That's just a very unlikely thing for him to try to do, not just for what he believed his father did to his sister but that it's obviously impractical, it's hard enough proving guilt let alone prove innocence. A cop would know there's nowhere to go with that.

[@risipieces]

@@Treblaine oh geez, i made that comment a couple of years ago (i was.. 16? ish?) and i don’t think i’ve thought about this or even watched the video again since

[@joaosilva-dr7yp]

It's sad that this man was clearly a serial killer but because he was rich and powerful he just got away with it

[@leeytacmartinez7919]

Yeah and Short was poor, she only had dinners outside when she is with men and I red that she couldn't afford to be on a dental to check her teeth so she uses candle wax to cover her cavities... :(

[@autumnyoder9785]

welcome to CaPiTaLiSm

[@masterreaper115]

@@autumnyoder9785 its not even just capitalism. A person of power is almost never brought to justice in any country

[@corneliali7747]

It also makes me really angry that he lived a long happy life into his 90s

[@Godsgrace__]

Like Jeffrey Epstein. He did not suicide. We know it.

[@koelael2660]

Even if Steve Hodel had a hatred towards his dad, his evidence is really strong.

[@bettyspaghettywithmeatballs]

Yes. From what I've read, a lot of people think he's too obsessed with it but I completely understand why. He's trying so hard to prove it, knowing that is most likely his father. Nobody can say for certain but there is no other person that I suspect.

[@how_cringey1221]

Bet les gooo

[@Janiebabie]

The person above me is gay

[@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075]

agreed

[@Kzha-od2zv]

I spoke to him

[@peachyskies8271]

Chris Pine when he sees the body in the trailer: *flinches* The real detectives of the case: That is one attractive lady.

[@alvinhuynh6098]

Hodel DID get Tamar, his daughter pregnant and then took her to have an illegal abortion done. Without anesthetic. Tamar then took him to court but he was acquitted and Tamar was seen as unwell mentally, especially after she told the court that her father was responsible for the Black Dahlia Murders. Fauna’s daughters say in the Root of Evil podcast, that Fauna was never interested in finding her birth father because she had a feeling it was George and didn’t want it confirmed.

[@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075]

@@alvinhuynh6098 very informative

[@cpldalton5966]

Peachy Skies his character didn’t see the body in the show

[@MegaMegajennifer]

@@alvinhuynh6098 what? buzzfeed said that the baby was adopted!

[@MegaMegajennifer]

@@javeedn ???

[@kathrynbonley3237]

the fact she was placed across a street named “degnan”, which was a murder of a child in chicago with the last name Degnan, who’s limbs were surgically removed and placed in different locations. she was supposedly a victim of the lipstick killer (which plays into the french murder) , George Hodel was suspiciously in chicago at that time. not to mention the child and dahlia were both perfectly bisected (cut in half).

[@bubblegumbxtch9544]

shocked this comment doesn't have more likes that's an amazing connection

[@UhOh239]

I don’t think hodel was part of that, as their was many cases like that like the torso killer but he definitely played a big role in Elizabeth shorts Case and possibly the Jean Spangler case too

[@Kade_Bauman]

This is one of those that is frustratingly “unsolved” officially, but the perpetrator is pretty obvious. *cough cough* George Hodel *cough cough*

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

Ane even if he didn't, he was still a monster.

[@andynarv2525]

The Zodiac case is still more frustrating .

[@LSPD1909]

@@andynarv2525 yea but the #1 suspect in the zodiac case isn't a kiddie diddler tho.

[@jackhamilton9604]

Eddie Van Halen, Drunk on Stage. Yes he was. Arthur Leigh Allen molested children

[@xStardust]

he didnt do it doe

[@xXGothicTransistorXx]

Shane is like that reluctant husband that follows his wife around rolling his eyes and going “Yes dear” because even though he doesn’t believe, he enjoys the adventures

[@TheBeautyScientist]

Lmao i couldnt agree more

[@shelbyhurlburt5059]

BlackenSoul or to make his wife happy

[@Ladylute6699]

Haha that sounds so true

[@MagisterialVoyager]

I can't believe you put this into words. :O Kudos to you!

[@evypolyak]

accurate

[@MsJudyCullen]

George Hodels great granddaughters recorded a podcast series called "Root of Evil" where they basically proved he was the killer

[@gunungmerapiapi1933]

Have you listened to MFM podcast(of course you did) 😁

[@RaynahDennehy]

I’ll listen to the Root of Evil podcast. Thank you for sharing.

[@1313fina]

Thank you for the recommendation!!

[@addyballer2402]

I listened to the whole podcast and it was a sick twisted story.

[@kelst75]

Cheers.

[@javashii7067]

i am from philippines. if im not mistaken, we also have the similar case of black dahlia: we have two. lucila lalu (1967), the original chop chop lady of the philippines. i assume, since it was mentioned that Hodel moved to philippines, i was starting to think of it deeply. it's also unsolved and one of the most horrific cases in the ph. it does makes sense to me now...

[@toph1605]

girl im looking onto it now after watching this episode. i have a vague memory of hearing the word "chop-chop lady" being spoken by my grandma i thought it sounds so familiar i didn't know it was from a murder case back in 1967 and 1993. as i was beginning to grow up living with my grandparents at that time i would remember them telling me and my sister to strictly go home before 6pm everyday after coming out of school for fear that a random person would chop us along the way if we go home as soon as the sky is dark.

[@javashii7067]

@@toph1605 you're from ph?

[@cpldalton5966]

The chopshop murder and the black dahlia share one thing in common, Dismemberment. Other than that they share nothing in similarity. Hodel most likely was not a murderer.

[@Chloe-tw1yi]

@@cpldalton5966yeah sure Hodel

[@cpldalton5966]

@@Chloe-tw1yi I take from this youre calling me Hodel? Just look at the facts! Steve Hodel is a liar, he even suggested he might be the zodiac killer and the lipstick killer. There is no evidence that Hodel killed anyone.

[@rachelpickett1898]

also if it wasn’t George what he did to his daughter is sick! and should’ve been locked up for that.

[@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075]

yeah, he was an awful, awful human being

[@charlescalthrop2535]

@Alex Martinez no, he said he was found not guilty. That doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.

[@lolarose8973]

@Alex Martinez sexual assault charges hardly ever go through, and people are hardly ever 'guilty' by the law in them

[@Kzha-od2zv]

Tamar, She came forward at a trial and screamed it "I know who did it! My father. But ofc, in LA, who will believe her

[@sonianevermind3938]

@Z No, that's wrong! Hodel was found not guilty, and was aquitted, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't do the crime.

[@chriscross1214]

It so unsettling and disturbing how Elizabeth went from a beautiful, young, and popular actress to this lifeless, abused corpse that was just thrown on the side of the street! Absolutely disturbing

[@nastytits]

Chris Cross every time I see her face, it hits me with reality that this beautiful young woman who could’ve had such an amazing career is gone. It hurts me. It’s amazing what you can feel for a total stranger that wouldn’t have even thought once that I could’ve existed

[@toptextyt1408]

pp gay

[@milkman8467]

i was watching a video of a girl saying people wear t shirts with her corpse on it

[@ghost-bc1fn]

@@toptextyt1408 same

[@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587]

Tis really evil, but worse things have been done. Not justifying the murder

[@mariaadkins3688]

Imagine dying and being described as "very attractive," but still having the cops criticize your teeth. Edit: Yeah, as many of you have pointed out the teeth thing could have been useful in identifying the body. Tbh what's weirder is how they described her as very attractive, when beauty is so subjective.

[@ninjanippledog725]

Less 'criticized' and more just for identification really

[@BoondocksOfBoston]

I read once she couldn't afford to go to a dentist so she would fill her cavities with candle wax.

[@myneccmybaccmyanxietyattac]

@@BoondocksOfBoston :o she would what with what now

[@somebody4244]

Nakajima Atsushi lmao

[@myneccmybaccmyanxietyattac]

@@somebody4244 I'm still shooketh-

[@haisee1671]

The fact that he went to the Philippines and a body was found with the same type as the black dahlia gives me chillls.

[@boschafanthelionheart7077]

As a filipino, the minute I heard that, I lost my cool for a bit

[@chescacz]

omg fr

[@kimsenka_]

Now makes me wonder why most of the foreign criminals choose Philippines to hide. 🤔

[@boschafanthelionheart7077]

@@britball2388 The age of consent has already been updated a long time ago, but that never stopped the our horrible pedo problem

[@cpldalton5966]

No evidence that he killed Lucilla lalu. All circumstantial. Means nothing.

[@miel8729]

things shane and i have in common: - being tall - not believing in ghosts - not watching the show before he joined it

[@scarephobic9618]

S a m e

[@jantzi0264]

Me too dude

[@larkito3279]

how am I the exact opposite of you lmao

[@jaimeparra2040]

Everything except being tall for me ;-;

[@hopoffmydick9574]

You're telling me you wouldn't watch the show without Shane...but what about Ryan? Just gonna leave him like that?

[@rami.j805]

Imagine being an officer and finding evidence of guy literally being like "what if I perhaps theoretically killed her" and the guy has a history of molesting his children...than being like nooo it can't be him.

[@katiebowles3740]

And be like George oh I love that guy he would never do that because he's rich

[@masterreaper115]

I mean to be fair it was more like "ah but he gives us gobs of money so who cares?"

[@Bobbles2001]

The issue is that alone is circumstantial. Obviously it was Hodel, but innocent until proven guilty is a thing for a reason. If you can’t 100% completely prove it was Hodel you can’t lock him up.

[@masterreaper115]

@@Bobbles2001 it's unfortunate in this situation but I'd still rather have guilty people be free than an innocent person in prison

[@Bobbles2001]

Master Reaper exactly. I mean most of these unsolved cases are “unsolved”. Everyone knows who did it, but because it was circumstantial they couldn’t lock them up.

[@FireheartFB]

My senoir quote is "I met the most insufferable people here. But they also met me." 😂Thanks Shane

[@seanlambert-knight4735]

Cosmic Movement may also use this 😂

[@Unknown_crusader]

If my school/country had senior quotes, I would use that too.

[@onyxsavior7179]

Lol

[@caro-lh4tz]

Same! I have been told that this quote fits perfectly. I'm not a 100% sure what to make of it...lol

[@YourMom-ow6wf]

That's mine too 😆

[@jessicakaemery]

Even if George didn't kill the Black Dahlia, he still should've gone to jail for what he did to his daughter

[@arianaortiz9635]

I feel bad for her and the son. Who's knows what else that crazy man did to people.

[@kiannaedwards4903]

yeah, i feel like he should of as well... its messed uo, they had enough evidence to lock him up, yet never did...

[@chlo9123]

When I see George was described as a "dashing man" and a doctor with knowledge of stuff, I already had a red flag considering most serial killers we're described as charming, and that's obviously another clue that he has knowledge of surgical stuff

[@mendesarmy1235]

Chloe Shane Similar to how Ted Bundy was described as "Handsome" by the media at the time.

[@chlo9123]

@@mendesarmy1235 yeah, every serial killers has charisma, which is useful to trick and lure their prey.

[@ttvgoosethecat1232]

They’re also all doctors lol I wanna be a doctor

[@tobyg5318]

It reminds me of an American Horror Story episode in which a Hollywood doctor that did surgeries on women and killed them. One of the bodies had been cut in half at the waist and a smile cut into her lips.

[@ashleya3475]

Jayme G that’s because it was inspired by this real murder!

[@inwalters]

Ok, I'm late to this but one omitted fact that could be important. They said pages from the address book were missing. Which ones? Most address books have alphabetical sections, so which ones were missing? the B's, the W's, the M's? If the pages missing were from H that could be important.

[@amia560]

it could've been so that just random pages were ripped out, so detectives couldn't get much of a lead from it.

[@blakeerenhouse943]

It’s written a dress book so it was probably just in the order she met people.

[@Felsenkeks]

@@blakeerenhouse943 even that could be important to determine how long she knew him. Like if the last few pages are missing it probably wasn’t someone she dated a year ago etc

[@srishti555]

exactly

[@shebalimmugs7896]

This is so smart

[@goddoggo566]

*has evidence against hodel* *has same car as witnessed near crime scene* *was an abusive father* *is a doctor* *reoccurring murders in the same spots near him* *has audio of him basically saying that even if he did it no one could catch him* Detectives: hmmmmm nah it’s not him

[@spencerfrankclayton4348]

Goddoggo That's why people think it was a cover-up.

[@JayneAngelinaSkye]

Exactlyy fuckin idiots but ppl say he was a powerful man so the police didnt mess wit him. Also i heard he was a police informant so thats another reason they didnt mess wit him. Smh

[@noneedtoknowme]

sigh.....(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[@brotherj7328]

Dat LAPD though😂😂😂

[@goddoggo566]

Jayne Skye SMH

[@lezbeehonest0294]

Black Dahlia: "Man, she's pretty cute, but the murderer knows about our crimes so no more investigating!" Bobby Dunbar: "Look, lady! I said it's your son, so it's your son!! Lock her in a mental institution, boys" Florida Machete Murder: "Alright fellas, let's hose down this crime scene" Shane: "They don't care!" Ryan: "Yeah, cops don't care, I guess..." this series does a great job at displaying our country's complete and justifiable lack of faith in it's justice system and the police

[@present_for_things6751]

To be fair, corruption has existed in America since it was discovered. It isn't surprising that corruption has spread everywhere.

[@kierawegewitz1806]

Plus in the Sodder case, the detectives didn’t seem that concerned that a life insurance salesman came to their door and said that their house was going up in smoke and their children would disappear. And the fire department didn’t get there until like 7 hours after the fire started.

[@nindyfarrel1322]

It's sad to see the justice system and police aren't getting significantly better through time. I mean, a lot of unsolved mysteries in the past at least has corrupt police and/or a biased justice system involved-and look where we are now! Still suffering (especially minorities) from corrupt police and a weak justice system. And when the government fails, it's up to the people to rise and make (or peacefully protest for) the change; and hopefully it'll be good for the long run for real (by today's standards). Also, why did I snicker at the Florida machete murder quote?

[@Messed-up-logic]

Wasn’t it the Arthur Hutchison case, not Bobby Dunbar?

[@man-wv8xj]

@@Messed-up-logic yeah it was the Walter Collins case

[@janafourie638]

Why didn't Jeanne French's murder receive as much attention as the Black Dahlia's? Surely the press at that time would have loved a double homicide and would have created a media frenzy about a possible serial killer... This really baffles me

[@Hadarouken]

Jana Fourie Corruption. The LAPD knew it was George Hodel

[@jack-ti6gp]

could be a possible copycat murder, someone different trying to mimic the original killings. also the term “serial killer” had not been coined until the 70s

[@emmawatson4636]

There were actually a lot of similar murders leading up to the Black Dahlia murder and after. There’s actually a really good podcast about these murders called Hollywood & Crime

[@thearchitect27]

Probably not as good looking as the Black Dahlia, and therefore not as noteworthy? It's Hollywood, keep in mind, only celebs matter in such a town where even the police are corrupt...

[@trashley3179]

Because she wasn't brutally tortured and mutilated.

[@nadir4774]

*Black dahlia murder happens* The watcher:"All me baby"

[@comptyyy7105]

all hail watcher

[@Adeazewashington]

😂😂😂

[@mneerasaeed8823]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂I just watched it

[@mya9389]

all hail the watcher

[@mickeycanillo4086]

HAHAHAHAAHA

[@brysonsnel7323]

The ripped out pages of the address book also tie to hodel because it is super likely you'd have a doctor in your address book

[@notfbi6440]

I hope you never sit on a jury...

[@sololeveling7922]

@@notfbi6440 why ?

[@Djdjdjfnnff]

@@sololeveling7922 look at his name

[@zainab4983]

@@notfbi6440 wait why

[@notfbi6440]

@@zainab4983 It's pure hearsay. Anyone Could be on those pages. It's flawed deductive reasoning.

[@d.c.destiny]

Something I'm glad of is that Elizabeth Short had the nickname of "Black Dahlia" even before she was killed. Her suitors gave her that nickname due to her signature dark-haired, dramatic look. I'm glad the papers didn't just give her a catchy nickname for a headline.

[@AYVYN]

Now there’s enough of her for everybody

[@snpauls]

I totally forgot Shane wasn’t always on this show.

[@theagermany2080]

Yeah, so did I. But I am glad he soon joined this series.

[@SirStalingrad]

Thea germany same

[@KeinAbendessen]

I don't remember who was there before

[@theunknowjellybean118]

@@KeinAbendessen All I remember is it was a white guy with glasses. 👓

[@gothicc6544]

Same!

[@spacevillains6348]

I mean Jesus, I’ve never heard so much evidence indicating one person for a murder. It’s just unfortunate that that it all seems to be circumstantial.

[@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587]

Thinking about it, it isn't

[@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587]

Most crimes committed are by someone the victim knew

[@lentellsoup1008]

If there's so much circumstantial evidence then it only takes 1 to prove that it's him while it takes almost all to prove his innocence

[@bettyspaghettywithmeatballs]

I'd say the same about the Cleveland Torso Killer. So obvious yet not enough for a conviction.

[@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587]

@@bettyspaghettywithmeatballs tbh

[@elisebiman]

it was tragic that short moved to Hollywood to be famous but she got that when she got murdered.

[@Tigerlilly7827]

elise biman like a bad genie wish

[@azelmamortlake4471]

+Taylor "Yeah, yeah, I can give you that as your last wish. You just want to be famous? Yeah, I got that in the bag."

[@galarstar052]

@@azelmamortlake4471 ha, more like got HER in the bag if you catch my drift.

[@audreywynne]

*2.3k dislikes... **_how many alternate accounts does ghost Dr. Hodel have??_*

[@Red-xg2ym]

We know its you, George!

[@maiavitale8458]

or it can be just Worth it boys

[@armands3153]

No, people just hate those two a-holes behind the desk.

[@ijuoi06]

LOOOOOOL

[@gentleasp6589]

@@armands3153 why?

[@tanzims6975]

Why did it feel like it had been 626356 years since the last episode? So glad the boys are back!

[@brianboru175]

It was actually less than 3 months.

[@theskyisnotreal]

Ikr

[@sylvia3980]

Put a comma after 3 digits,1 digit, and 2 digits. Example: 1,234,567,890. Example: 1,000. Example: 89,000. These are just so you get the different pictures and placement in it.

[@stackstheboxbreakerbeatbox7849]

THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN, YEA, YEA, YEA. THEY SHOULD MAKE THIS A T.V. Show. It's way better.

[@Psy_d_uck]

The boys are back

[@brianboru175]

Unfortunately. Very annoying.

[@tonymartnez94]

If it annoying then why your watching it

[@jayfawn8478]

They are not back, its replay. I agree they are sometimes annoying when making inappropriate jokes on something not funny. Seems forced to be comical

[@robynsun]

I read this and in my head it was just the Troy and Chad song from HSM 3.....

[@weebaroo6914]

KAFFE 101 I love your icon anyways fun fact it’s Todoroki’s birthday

[@hailhydra2296]

This is the most solved unsolved mystery i'v ever seen

[@sho9078]

Also the OJ Simpson case

[@hildamanning5181]

@@sho9078 and the poisoning of litvenienko

[@ambercornelius7202]

The Lost colonly of roanoke

[@hatmentionmansion7403]

HAIL HYDRA??!?!?!???!

[@MrSpikethefirst]

@@hildamanning5181 Exactly what I was thinking that one is even officially solved and even shane was like "this is like if I killed someone and we called it unsolved because I just kept saying no I didn't"

[@Michelle-kh5du]

When reporters got their hands on the name of the Elizabeth Short, they called Elizabeth’s mother and told her that Elizabeth had won a beauty contest and they asked her all kinds of questions about her childhood and Elizabeth’s personality, stuff like that. When they were done getting all the information they wanted/needed from Elizabeth’s mother, they finally told her that her daughter had been murdered

[@sebastiankit4249]

Horrible and horrible

[@hnichole]

That is so disgusting, that poor woman. I hope her family was able to find some peace after this tragedy, RIP Elizabeth.

[@BlueLeopard200]

People were crueler in those days, it seems.

[@itsavery4649]

Omg, imagine investigating a case because you’re suspicious of your dad, realizing he might be a serial killer. You’d probably be rethinking your life and things that your dad might have done. I can’t possibly imagine that. It would change your life in such a terrible way. Imagine if you figured out your dad was probably a serial killer! Edit: I got a couple replies saying I got the order wrong, so I altered the comment. Thanks for the feedback!

[@ghost-bc1fn]

*laughs in riverdale season 2*

[@ruthmeow4262]

Well, considering what kind of father he was, it wasn't that much of a shock to him.

[@Minam0]

That's what happened with BTK's daughter

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

@@ruthmeow4262 Yeah, even without this one murder, this man was a monster.

[@existentialcrisis9888]

he wasn't investigating the case, they mentioned that. he took up the case after his retirement, after finding photos belonging to his dad. so he wasn't investigating and then realised, he began investigating BECAUSE he found the photos :)

[@mp-zt3gb]

Fun fact: Julia Child could kill someone! She was a trained spy actually during the cold war

[@mmarciac4879]

Are you thinking of Lucille Ball? Or were BOTH of them spies??????

[@mp-zt3gb]

@@mmarciac4879 I'm only talking about Julia. She was a "spy" not the traditional spy but she handled top secret documents and traveled for the US before she became a chef during the 40s. She was stationed in Asia for a while doing security clearance work and handling government documents, along with checking up on the US's enemies.

[@mmarciac4879]

@@mp-zt3gb Dang, I didn't know that. Crazy how someone so innocent and unassuming can have a past like that

[@cheerlover828]

L

[@victoriaf8571]

Anyone could kill someone

[@josieblue]

the police described her as “very attractive”? who’s idea was that? “yeah if you have any info on this smokin hot babe just hit up our line thanks”

[@dixiewhite2698]

Ikr lmao

[@011mph]

lmaoo right?

[@potato-whiz]

Lol it was the 40s I guess.

[@juandoe3298]

You trippin aint even dat serious

[@brookedavis6726]

@@rs-mt6kl yeah but that's to much work 😂

[@remyuk]

i was rewatching this case, and i never truly noticed how sad it is that she wanted to be a famous actress but struggled to get small acting jobs, and now she's super well known... but for an entirely different reason.

[@mac2637]

To be honest even though the PowerPoint episodes are far less enjoyable, that's when Ryan was putting his heart and soul into his own project. Something that's admirable

[@ghostmemeboi]

Mac Dore i prefer the powerpoint format actually

[@shieldon530]

he still puts his heart in the episodes

[@mac2637]

@@shieldon530 right but it's not just a Ryan project now. It's got a whole team doin it

[@mac2637]

@@ghostmemeboi #shaniac

[@libramoons]

they’re more enjoyable to me personally

[@reverseashv2169]

Anyone else find it odd that Hodel mentioned his secretary? Why mention her? Was she a flimsy alibi, or did she know too much? Did anyone look into his secretary?

[@sebastiankit4249]

Yeah It was weird that nobody including the police investigate or mention the assisant.

[@natalieland379]

Hodel was suspected of killing his secretary about two years before Short was killed. His would be motive for killing her was to cover financial fraud. He was never charged at the time because he left for China

[@LilVeehive]

@@natalieland379 ah yes.. leaving the country everytime he is suspected of something. Fantastic

[@please_im_a_staaar]

I read the secretary died of something like a heart attack

[@dhara1002]

@@please_im_a_staaar Maybe that's what they want you to believe

[@ruelou1410]

can you please make a series called “SOLVED”

[@sabotage9926]

That sorta defeats the whole idea of the channel, considering how it is called, 'BuzzFeed UNSOLVED Network,' plus I'd find them quite boring since they've already been solved, and there's nothing to think about, nor is there any mystery to the case.

[@Arcuied]

maybe a mini-series on the side would work better. There are many cases that although solved they're still interesting because of the methodology of the crimes or the personalities surrounding the case, of both the culprits and the investigators. Like the Unabomber for example, it's solved and the information is there to look up but I'd like to see the boys tackle it in the own style.

[@timol458]

Maby a serie were the go back to old videos were there are new information

[@sammywarrick7345]

Yeh like that they sort of give a history or solved murders

[@diagonxx1866]

Yessss pleaseee. A closure please

[@TheMarksman316]

I am from the Philippines, the 1967 murder in the Philippines cited in this video also have the same kind of notoriety as the Black Dahlia did in the U.S. Here, the '67 murder also had an infamous name: "The Chop-Chop Lady case" and it was never solved too. I was literally shocked to learn the fact that Hodel was here at the time the '67 murder case happened. It's eerie too that '67 murder happened 20 years after the Black Dahlia.

[@cpldalton5966]

Except je likely didn’t do the murder.

[@daisymae6]

@@cpldalton5966 George Hodel, is that you?

[@cpldalton5966]

@@daisymae6 Haha funny, but seriously please look up the research and documentation of Larry harnisch, an LA Times Reporter who is the only person who has a firm grasp on the truth, his research is phenomenal. Or alternatively I can link you a video which is probably the best Black Dahlia informative videos on the platform

[@gooseincrocs]

I missed BuzzFeed Unsolved so much! Also any AHS remember the murder house episode focused on her - Doctor Montgomery ‘dealt’ with her, maybe that’s a nod to it was Doctor Hodel as the evidence points to Hodel

[@citcatpat1232]

It definitely was lol

[@brianajohnson8172]

I was thinking that!

[@ai_sight]

The way they used her story was so messed up to me. I know that AHS is inspired by real life events but, she was still a real person and it just seemed disrespectful to use her story as a simple plot device and entertainment.

[@caseydiana1717]

@@ai_sight then stop watching tv shows and KZbin shows like this one then?? Idk.. especially the ones broadcasted on live tv for the world to see and not just KZbin users... if that's the case... alot of shows and movies are based off of true stories and true crimes like this one. I dont see you complaining about those stories tho?? So what's the difference between them and this paticular one?? Cuz as far as im concerned, there is no difference! Just my thoughts, opinion and 2 cents added.. no harm meant just curious is all :)

[@autumnmarks2915]

Thats what i always think about

[@eileenzamby3214]

TRUE CRIME IS FINALLY HERE FELLAS

[@taylorr7106]

Eileen Zamby I love your pfp

[@thesaxophonist343]

I liked the super natural videos. Like the moth man. That was my favorite

[@beatherese521]

Eileen Zamby YASSSS

[@discountfreddie7023]

Love the pfp

[@heyryanisonx3141]

@@thesaxophonist343 My favorite are the cryptozoological episodes

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

When a victim ends up having “clean” wounds we always jump at the idea that the killer must have had surgical skills. Why don’t we ever consider butchers and slaughterhouse workers?

[@Luis-ej4ei]

Human anatomy, my dude.

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

André B it’s all pretty much the same. Why else would med students practice on pigs?

[@Luis-ej4ei]

@@foxxygearreviews7754 what do they practice on pigs?

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

André B we do our ATLS stuff on pigs. Also we did open heart surgery on them. It was pretty weird.

[@Luis-ej4ei]

@@foxxygearreviews7754 jesus christ the poor bacon

[@danithejabberwok1584]

This case has always rubbed me the wrong way. Even if it was 70 something years ago I still get chills hearing about it. Whoever murdered Ms Short was a very angry, violent, and sadistic monster. And the way her body had very clearly been moved meant they wanted everyone to see what they had done. It’s so unnerving and it genuinely scares me to this day.

[@kawaiionee-chan9557]

I felt like this seem in a way of art, a sick way because what I got from this murder is someone thought about this for a long time and saw this as some type of canvas

[@windangel7720]

I think whoever it was hated her for some reason- he mutilated her face and her genitals. It can't get much more personal than that. Poor woman. 😢

[@ladykaya7330]

shane: we’re not sickos ryan: shane: ryan: yeah yeah no i’m not-

[@shantaziahill2598]

Ricky Goldsworth:But I am

[@johndespard3477]

I can't believe you left out info about Dr. Hodels orgy parties, and secret room...

[@jaimetrevino4650]

john despard please elaborate

[@julio_crack]

DOCTOR HODEL’S WHAT

[@icetly]

Elaborate??

[@addie2041]

What about the orgy parties??

[@luciusmalfoy8832]

Elly Dragon a lot of people having sex with each other. Like probably 5 or more people?

[@chevyrupleix]

In the Philippines, it was dubbed as the "chop-chop lady".

[@laurensullivan9309]

💀

[@Hannah-dd6bo]

Chevy Rupleix I busted a lung

[@alyana6800]

I'm Filipino and I'm not surprised they named it that. We love repeating the same word twice 🤣

[@rosaaa.095]

Omg- 😭💀

[@yuzefjayden859]

Nope. That's another murder case

[@Horrortelltales]

How is life fair when a psychopath killer gets to live to the age of 91 , geez.

[@nyasiamccoy5928]

life ain’t fair , never was.

[@eileenzamby3214]

Shane, glancing thoughtfully at Ryan: 'Sometimes I get a little worried about ya...' Us: **nervous laughter** 👀

[@shantaziahill2598]

Ricky:Stop worrying then

[@IAmMightyMike]

We all know he got possessed secretly last season

[@kaseychapman4125]

It reminds me of the quote from it from Beverly's (abusive) father "You worry me sometimes Bevvie. You really worry me. "

[@mintssss]

EXACTLY

[@clarissarojas7959]

Ricky Goldsworth who? Don't know him?

[@Dorianbones]

Imagine if George wasn’t the killer, and the actual murderer was just sat there watching everyone blame George Hodel.

[@julz3tt3]

Elliot Ness thought he had discovered the killer, it wasn't George Hodel though. It could be a link to the Cleveland Torso murderer.

[@somethinunameit637]

I play a game called town of salem. In said game, you can be given a role called serial killer. And it is a satisfying feeling to watch someone get lynched for your murders. Granted, it is a game where no lives are actually lost, but it's an interesting psychological observation that I have on myself.

[@gabblebabbles2017]

Well to be perfectly fair at least he was a monster outside of being the possible murderer so even the accusation is fitting of his character.

[@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587]

@@somethinunameit637 wait what

[@somethinunameit637]

@@lukeedwards-sparsholtt1587 town of salem is a game similar to the party game mafia. A classic game of town has a serial killer, three mafia members, a jester (who is trying to get themselves hung), an executioner (who tries to get someone else hung), and miscellaneous town members. The game has you communication with the town, and try to work together to achieve a common goal, whether that is killing everyone or killing "evil doers" I know there are a few players who youtube and twitch games, and if you are more interested in it than just watching, it is $5 usd on stream and I think it is now on mobile? It also has a website you can purchase the game from.

[@raghad4099]

“there’s no justice, sleep tight everybody” -Shane Madej

[@woop546]

That should be my yearbook quote 💀

[@funnatopia704]

What I find the most heartbreaking is that today people are using the photos police took of her body and face for financial gain and "art." Recently came across a phone case while searching for one on the internet that had the photo of her mangled face slapped onto it. It disgusted me.

[@sugarhiccup2584]

ok??

[@ashjohnson4451]

humanity is despicable

[@jorgeofthejungle4450]

I lost it when they were talking about the cocaine sniffing dog

[@ziqqyziqqy]

wojtek eating lit cigarettes: 👁👄👁

[@ncrveteranranger2368]

@@ziqqyziqqy A man of culture i see.

[@mrh6729]

Please do the "beaumont children" pretty long rabbit hole which could include the Adelaide oval abduction as well, whole list of suspects as well. Australia's most famous crime mystery.

[@takor7573]

mr h What’s that case about?? Could you give like a quick overview??

[@bazoinksitstheguy5852]

Yeah I never heard of that crime. Sounds interesting though

[@Manzana440]

@@takor7573 In 1966 three kids vanished after going to the beach. It was a few stops from their home and they already went there on their own before. They agreed with their mother on time when they will come back. But they never arrived. Last seen at the bus stop near the beach (near the time when they should have gone back) with an unknown man. But neither this man nor childer were found.

[@takor7573]

Irina Kvasnikova thanks!!

[@bazoinksitstheguy5852]

@@Manzana440 Oh dang.

[@user-bn8ui9wm3u]

U READY FOR SOME WHEEZING?

[@brianboru175]

No. They're poor hosts. Really unfunny.

[@piyapikuyi]

your opinion isnt valid, if you have nothing nice to say shut your mouth

[@ihaveaproblem4270]

@@piyapikuyi I don't agree with them either but calm down

[@gwynethsavannah7482]

*wheezes*

[@jacobf8887]

Jayy Dee this is the season of genuine wheezin’

[@aviancoleslaw]

"There's no justice. Sleep tight, everybody." Shane Madej, 2019.

[@kaidee9260]

"Chris Pine... that guy is smoky" "he's got nice eyes" that was so pure jfjfjjf

[@Flanneryschickens]

BBE Big bi energy

[@locafly]

Kaidee aren’t they gay?

[@beckyanderson988]

@@locafly no (well its never been exspictly said)

[@sigrun7210]

@@locafly they both have girlfriends

[@TheOneandOnlyMyst]

Hearing murders like this make feel so uncomfortable.. like, imagining being tortured and cut and everything, while pleading your life to some insane person. And what if you were the murderer? How do not feel bad for that person? How can someone seriously take the life of another person? It just boggles me.

[@ac6938]

these murderes are psychopaths....they have no remorse and never feel guilty...it is sad people like these live among us :(

[@TheOneandOnlyMyst]

@@ac6938 yeah

[@linagomez4715]

Agree, it's completely unbelievable to me how someone can torture and slowly kill someone else. I guess a person like this is out of their mind or they have a very dark soul.

[@TheOneandOnlyMyst]

@@linagomez4715 yep

[@leginious]

@@ac6938 you just had to put among us at the end lol. george hodel is the impostor

[@s-kaye-h6583]

Important question! One of my friends actually calculated the percentages, and found that Shane is actually 54-56% leg instead of 80% as is claimed. My question is this: When will the lies end??

[@lyndsay3371]

when they inject him the truth serum

[@mikaylaaa2439]

This is the most important question they better answer

[@gionnabigolin7541]

the main problem with "truth serums" is that technically they don't necessarily force the truth out of you. It will only lower your inhibitions enough to make you either more susceptible to suggestion and less of a compulsion to lie about something. That doesn't always mean that no one would or could lie. Fun idea for getting the truth out, for sure, but not the most effective.

[@rachelraquel758]

Well, they don’t use them anymore.

[@tairneanaich]

It’s essentially like getting them drunk, honestly

[@UhOh239]

Yeah but Manley had no part in Betty’s murder Sad he was traumatised, mentally hospitalised and tortured. He died knowing people thought he killed her

[@samcampbell5472]

Finally watching when it comes out, instead of hours later!

[@netfelixandchill5329]

Samantha Campbell me too!!😂😂

[@rkyve9]

Same! I only started watching the series after the season finale of the last true crime season

[@elonnamcpeters674]

Or over and over again from years ago

[@theskyisnotreal]

Lmao I was at piano

[@t-pain1211]

Yeah

[@LittleMissStamper]

This case has always bothered me....and I watch all kinds of serial killer/crime shows.....But this poor girl..she suffered such a horrible cruel death and her body... The photographs are always splashed all over the media and internet. Like even after death she is still being tortured. I dunno, this one is just different.

[@Linhdoesstuff]

She was only 22 as well. Too young to pass away, she had an ambition with hopes and dreams. It hurts when you think of it...

[@bellavasquez481]

Also American Horror Story using her in season 1 was just wrong. It always angered me that they just made up a character that just so happened to murder her. It just really rubs me the wrong way.

[@emmakise5182]

If this case bothered you, make sure you don't look into the Junko Furuta case 😬😬

[@LittleMissStamper]

@@emmakise5182 Oh great thanks...you KNOW I have to look it up now, lol

[@Eli-rk3jh]

@@emmakise5182 nononononononononono please do not remind me of that ive been trying to wipe that off my memories oh lord

[@webbit1518]

George Hodel would have been caught with in a week or 2 in modern times...

[@corneliali7747]

not if he has powerful connections. I mean look at Epstein.

[@bitty4994]

Cornelia Li, that’s true. I mean look at what’s happened with the Epstein case so far. The judge assigned to the case family was recently harmed

[@antoescobedo7177]

i agree, remember there was a fingerprint in one of the letters but they couldn’t identify it bc there was no record, he would most definitely get caught today

[@marythecontrarian]

Caught, definitely. Actually paid for his crimes, idk. It all depends on how much money and influence he had in modern day.

[@sebastiankit4249]

@@marythecontrarian our society is stronger than before because famous and governments need to have a good and positive looks in the public. If u make one mistake, a whole internet will go mad. But idk

[@KevenTalks]

1) This Holden guy absolutely did it 2) It was so gruesome that Holden definitely didn't just kill once 3) His own SON believes he was behind a ton of other murders, including the Zodiac killings (!!!)

[@LeoDBW]

It is very likely that he committed other crimes, but the Zodiac is a little far-fetched, since he doesn't match the physical description of the suspect in those cases, and the M.O. is too different from the previous crimes

[@sergeantsupreme4395]

Holden

[@snoozuu]

somehow george not having a shadow over his face makes me 87% more Scared

[@scottowen2056]

That’s specific.

[@orangecolour43]

exactly:(

[@PsPuNkS]

Speaking of the Philippines you guys should look into the Chiong murder case .

[@sinniebalbaguio9337]

PsPuNkS OHMAYGAHD YES THAT CASE INFURIATES ME SO MUCH

[@GianRFN]

Up for this

[@lorlorlorlorlor30]

Pls do!!!!

[@nibblescole]

What’s that?

[@Nelle017]

Yasss

[@tiabowen1175]

Some of these episodes fall more under "Buzzfeed Unpunished" than Buzzfeed Unsolved lmao

[@Thewritingelf]

Honestly ! Like it's clear who did it, it's just they've never been jailed

[@EmptyPeace]

@@Thewritingelf I bet you talk like that you loser.

[@xanderambrose6089]

Z wtf

[@tiabowen1175]

@@EmptyPeace Sometimes before you reply maybe you should ask yourself... is it really a necessary or helpful addition? I bet you'd leave a lot less comments

[@Lunaanimates_]

@@EmptyPeace dude... it was literally just a typo...

[@kaciewilliams1693]

I called in for a severely beaten body and then continued on my way to work after the ambulance came and left - it's a shocking experience and you can kind of just continue your day in shock. I gave a statement to a detective the next morning, but I don't think what I'd seen really hit me emotionally until a few days to a week later. So I totally get how that lady just continued on to do her errand. :v

[@thotpatrol2417]

“We’re not sickos” -looks at Ryan with spoopy boy eyes

[@brianboru175]

It's acting.

[@shantaziahill2598]

Ricky:Stop f@$king staring

[@laura-zg6uy]

Elizabeth Short would be 95 today :( Happy Birthday Elizabeth, you’ll always be in our hearts 💔 rest easy

[@drmurphdurf4921]

No one would know her if not for her murder No one thinks about her in their day to day life

[@nicoresino7249]

@@drmurphdurf4921 And how do you know that? Maybe she would be a retired movie star today.

[@EyesonEnforcement911]

@@drmurphdurf4921 Wrong. She definitely has family who think of her on a daily basis... Stop being ignorant.

[@taserface5519]

VS Industry she doesn’t anymore 🤣

[@glupshitto1977]

VS Industry by now.. no chance

[@ashestodust9483]

Meeting someone by pressuring them into getting into your car is never a good sign.

[@Ryry005]

Periodt

[@beckgh7270]

Yeah, he’s probably not the murderer but he sure is creepy as hell

[@ralphnicholls3821]

AshesToDust taxi drivers

[@chloesingleton4521]

Shane: "That man is... smoky." Ryan: "He's got nice eyes." The difference between the bois is clear. XD

[@litlekis]

Literally the only time I’ve been please for youtubers to be sponsored because: A - it’s actually a relevant sponsorship (not audio books, self help or iPhone games that don’t have anything to do with their content) B - ITS YA BOIS

[@akirebara]

Cee99862 r Good content + good advertising with The Berry Bois

[@jellyhappening1458]

God forbid that people get paid for their job

[@bethanywhitnell4746]

Sponsorships are literally some peoples income, especially with the state youtube and CPM is in

[@needmeachillplaylistforstu3495]

implying it's easy to get sponsorships related to a channel's content lmao??

[@litlekis]

Why lol i don’t have any issue with people getting paid. I do have people blindly accepting sponsorships that their audience knows they legitimately have no interest in. Or these websites line gabby Hannah and her free brushes or those other “mystery box” websites that you could get AirPods for £4. That’s just pushing gambling and scams down their audience throats that trust them. That’s all that was meant by it

[@Emily-mv2ve]

POST MORTEM: It's sad to think Elizabeth Short only achieved the fame she sought after in life after her death, she even had a movie made about her death when she herself never made it big in films. If they ever made a movie about the Unsolved boys who do you think they would get to play them? P.s love you both welcome back!

[@benbutcher2098]

I love how Shane does absolutely nothing to help make or narrate the show and just makes the best sarcastic comments whenever humanly possible

[@mckennaburns5142]

it’s not a real buzzfeed unsolved episode without the (wheeze)

[@KG-ql5qn]

If Hodel died in 1991 at the age of 91 that means he was born in 1900. That’s so crazy to me because so much happened from 1900 to the 90s like wow

[@isaacsuarez8742]

Kendra Gross he was born in 1907 and died in 1999 of May at the age of 92 they made a mistake look it up

[@KG-ql5qn]

issi’s oh okay but still cool that he lived through so many decades

[@eugeneworrell1883]

@Remy that's still during the time of both worlds wars it's crazy to think about

[@DangerHob]

Right?! How wild it must have been to watch all of these pivotal things happening through the years.

[@nakeshiadunklin9186]

I really wish anyone could solve this. I dont know why but everytime i hear the story about her im sadden for hours.

[@alexroman3682]

This case is the reason I'm pursuing my career to be a murder investigator ...

[@cactus8802]

love.moon_ 26 honestly that seems fun but i would be so scared knowing there’s still a murderer out there that knows i’m on to him or smth idk😂

[@existentialrookie5432]

@@alexroman3682 that's actually great! I've dreamt of becoming a crime expert then (a forensic psychologist to be exact), but now I think I've found my passion in the medical career.. So I hope you do become successful! Rooting for you!! Wish you all the best!! 😊😊💕

[@williamthompson5504]

After reading Hodell's books about his father George, I convinced he did it. For me, it's solved. It's been almost 75 years since it happened. There's no witnesses left and scant remaining evidence.

[@nakeshiadunklin9186]

@@williamthompson5504 I agree to that I definitely believe he did it

[@mariairene4076]

now THIS is how you do a paid promotion. im actually interested in the show now!

[@Nyctra.]

Maria Irene welcome to the unsolved network...

[@oscarlindhorst5586]

Me too.

[@user-sx4qu4dz9z]

Jimmy Bartz How often have they promoted a tv show lol

[@VentraleStar]

@Jimmy Bartz God forbid they make money by actually doing a sponsor that directly contributes to their content. I mean most people don't even try to find sponsors that are relevant to their content.

[@chandrawagner4061]

I wasnt really that interested in the show until seeing this and i think it is relevant to the channel and a well done video. So I agree with you, very well done paid promotion

[@Cjslvdr]

I came back here because I read this article about Lucila Lulu, an unsolved murder case in the Ph years after Black Dahlia happened. Her body parts were dismembered and scattered in the City and was believed that it was done by someone with medical knowledge, the weird thing about it is that George Hodel went to PH during that time

[@cassiusfelix2805]

George did it. This is probably the most likely suspect that committed the crime I ever seen in my life.

[@Red-xg2ym]

In that particular case, yeah George Hodel, in any case OJ Simpson was the most guilty person who got off innocent out of any case

[@abbyodelson]

I have been refreshing my KZbin page for the last hour. For the postmortem: You guys should do an episode dedicated to looking back at your old cases that have new info. Just an idea. Also, thanks for making my Friday twenty times better.

[@brianboru175]

Don't like that idea. These hosts annoy me very much.

[@stephlrideout]

Sounds cool but the chance of enough cases having new info to make an entire episode is probably very slim. That's not something that happens too often.

[@connormoran4801]

I'd be happy with that

[@cacaubrt]

they definitely need to redo Elisa Lam with Shane

[@narozan2769]

maybe they could revisit the most famous cases

[@kosadamirinichi5888]

For Post Mortem: The one detail I seem to focus on in this case is the fact that she was drained of blood. My question is what would drive a person to drain a victim of blood? Like would they keep it, toss it out else where? If they tossed it out could it possibly be the human tissue found in the yard? Why drain it to begin with? Also did he drain her before or after he cut her in half? The whole logistics of draining a body of blood at once confuses and astounds me.

[@AttackPoodle]

Probably before. It would be much quicker to drain her while she was still alive since her heart would actually help speed up the process. She likely would have died very quickly after being cut in half. Although if you held the pieces of her body wound down then gravity would also help....but you'd have to be fairly quick because the blood would start to congeal... I'm gonna say alive, I feel like you'd get more blood out that way.

[@becc4409]

if “making art” in his own twisted way was truly a motive, i imagine that’s why since there is such difference in color after being drained

[@LivLaugh]

Well she was placed where she was found. Wouldn't you rather not have a bleeding corpse in your car? Cars are horrible to clean and blood is tough to completely remove. If the killer was to be inspected by police, is the blood is all down the drain, there is nothing to look for in terms of remains in his house or car.

[@YanaPetruk]

Maybe he painted with her blood or something

[@allaboutbusiness4645]

Well you're not a sociopath so you wouldn't understand.

[@burnheals]

Shane: Julia Child. You think she could murder anyone? Me, internally: remembers she was a cia agent Me: (sweats)