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@ianellis395
@ianellis395 9 күн бұрын
Poor Swag. He barely got a word in! 😂
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
lol really? Not sure what stream you were watching.
@Adamantium-23
@Adamantium-23 8 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture Knowledge takes many forms from subtle to dense. Must have flown over the head. I thought it was one of the best streams I've heard in a minute. That one was right and exact. Touched on a lot of good points. Hats off! That was molten lava!
@popsequentialism7213
@popsequentialism7213 9 күн бұрын
This was a fun conversation to witness: a spirited exchange of ideas within a quickly established framework. One thing about buying back issues at an LCS that I've begun to notice a lot lately is that there are very few candidates for 9.8 in back issue bins overall -and especially with regard to books that are ten years old or more. Buying raw floppies online has always been a risk, but some sellers do provide a lot of photos, and books from private collections have been handled less and with (generally) more respect, and that expanded pool of availability means you are more likely to find a mint copy online than in a local shop. I think that's an important part of the online pricing model. Certainly there are areas with a higher concentration of comic shops and there are absolutely shops with large quantities of comics in great condition, but for most parts of this huge country those are fewer and further between. So while shoppers prone to browsing prefer in-person purchasing, buyers prone to targeting specific items stand to benefit more from online purchasing.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, and I agree with you on this one. Actually, your points add more reason - in my opinion - for LCS's to use a competitive pricing model rather than trying to price back issues at "eBay last sold."
@mgaskill
@mgaskill 9 күн бұрын
I enjoyed the conversation immensely, and was surprised at how much of the content I agreed with. There are so many facets to comic book collecting and selling, and they all play a part in pricing, availability, and how we perceive the hobby, overall. I do want to say that I did disagree with Jerno’s take on how variants are propping up floppy sales. Jerno, you referenced the sales numbers showing how cover A books are dwarfed in sales by the variants, and used that as a reason to think that the traditional comic is in trouble. I think that there are other ways to read that, and they don’t spell doom for floppy sales. For many new comics, there are very often between 1 and 50 variants (yes, 50 effing variants for ONE issue 🙄), and that’s going to substantially dilute sales of the cover A for multiple reasons. First, a LOT of NCBD buyers use pre-orders and pull lists to get discounts and to make sure that they get the books they want on the day. Often, those bull lists look like “all Miles Morales” or “Detective Comics #1095”, and this is usually interpreted to mean that the customer wants cover A and the variants. Many collectors have talked about how variants sometimes wipe them out. It’s a thing that NCBD buyers are well aware of. Second, the “perceived value” of a variant is higher than a cover A, so given the same price, many collectors choose the variant simply because it’s more likely to be worth even a little something in the future. Variants have sucked all of the potential future value of the cover A dry, and have distributed that value disproportionately across all of the variants, probably mostly to one or two that you have to “buy in” higher than cover price. What this means is that the existence of variants literally make the cover A worth less, and therefore not collectible for anyone except a completionist. If we remove variants, I think sales will continue at nearly the same total volume, minus the double purchases to get the variants and the cover A. I think that if the publishers changed the variants from limited editions of existing series and instead made them limited edition art prints tied to the comic releases, it could solve 2 problems at once: 1) bring value back to the cover A, and b) give a non-floppy collectible for the artwork collector that was never going to read the comic in the first place. The publishers could tie quantity limits to comic order amounts as they do now for variants (e.g. 1:10, 1:200). They would save money on printing costs by printing one sheet (a wrap) instead of 32, and they’d have no binding or stapling to deal with. They could print on card stock to give a premium feel and still save 80% on production. Coordination with grading companies could mean easy-to-slab art prints that could be displayed in beautiful slabs exactly as pricier variants are now. Thoughts?
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
First off, I want to say that I really love the thought you put into this idea, and hey, you might be on to something. But honestly? I'm still going to probably disagree with you. Yes, to some extent, if we take away all variants, it would prop up cover A sales, but in my humble opinion, it won't be enough to get anywhere close to what the variant market is pulling in in terms of direct sales. The massive 30,40 or 50 variants for each issue is a product that came from an already dwindling primary direct market for floppy comics. That speaks volumes. Also, there is more money involved because of how many people variants employ. It employs hundreds of more artists, and it is a huge revenue generator for dealers and shops that are built off of the exclusive variant, and that money is bread and butter for the publishers. If you just do this card insert idea, it takes away so much guaranteed money from the publishers, and we simply won't ever see this happen.
@troyevans6839
@troyevans6839 9 күн бұрын
GenZ will decide the value of comics & they don't care.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
This is a good comment!
@troyevans6839
@troyevans6839 9 күн бұрын
GenZ will have a lot of trouble with digital assets. (It's a trend that's already happening) Being hacked/encrypted out of your digital assets or corporations deleting, editing, censoring their digital assets from their device without their knowledge or consent so as not to offend "modern audiences"...in this way tangible assets within the collectibles space will have value.... which collectibles will genZ gravitate to to protect their investments? Will be interesting to watch it play out. That's why I'm focused on rare golden age non key , beautiful cover issues.
@beachrain8617
@beachrain8617 9 күн бұрын
All Marvel has to do is sell comics in packs at Walmart like they already do but with super short prints and rare numbered variants and all the young people and flippers would buy the packs to gamble and sell the "hits" on Ebay. Then somebody grades the 1/1 and it sells for $10k+. The Whatnot comic packs are selling for around $200 on Ebay right now. That's where the market is headed. Also I see plenty of comic youtubers who are young and like comics, and long as channels like this grow there is no end in sight. The movies, toys, video games & merch sales are all up for comic characters, that part of the hobby keeps growing.
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 9 күн бұрын
They don’t have money. If you look at wealth. Boomers have 80%. Millennials have 19%. And genZ Has less than 1% of the actual wealth. When millennials are older in their 60-70s they’ll have disposable income. So at that point collectibles could theive
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 9 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulturegen z has no money though like 1% of the wealth or less really.
@troy5731
@troy5731 2 күн бұрын
If you weren't in on it when the market got cornered then you're playing someone else's game....a lot of those someone else's are d-bags...don't be on the end of their strings. Have your own angle. So is this First Appearance of Economics 101 guy or is he in all these issues?
@noahidecomics
@noahidecomics 9 күн бұрын
The money in comics is likely secure over the long term. Jaded collectors leave regularly enough but the hobby invariably goes on and usually grows in spite of the naysayers.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
Maybe for golden age and those few blue chip silvers, but we cannot truly answer this question until people born up until the 70s and 80s die out. So, in another 40 years, will there even be enough consumers from the new generation willing to collect in comics the way we did?
@noahidecomics
@noahidecomics 8 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture I believe in God and that he judges the world and that things, institutions, groups, products and people earn rights. Rights once established are not revoked and actually grow in time. Part of the world to come is world Expansion and continued growth.
@davidsamuelson2089
@davidsamuelson2089 8 күн бұрын
Go to a convention or lcs, there are no kids buying comics - everyone that is is older. Real blue chips will still go up over the next 10-20 years most & there won’t be a market after we all go.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 7 күн бұрын
@@noahidecomics God has nothing to do with comic books and the fact that the comic market has been shrinking drastically for the last 30 years.
@noahidecomics
@noahidecomics 7 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture we don't have the same God, so I beg to differ.
@davidsamuelson2089
@davidsamuelson2089 8 күн бұрын
Comics are an unregulated immature market compared to mature investable commodities & collectibles.
@alvaflash
@alvaflash 7 күн бұрын
I had that same issue. I went into an LCS while living in Lacey, WA, and spent all this time looking at back issues. Picked out some that I wouldn't mind buying, then went to the checkout, and the owner told me that she has to cross reference all prices with online sales. I was like, wait, what? It was beyond me that LCSs would try to do this, and like you mentioned, not go south for them in the long run. Most of the issues I was trying to buy at that LCS were back issues that i wouldn't have otherwise bought but was trying to give them a shot but now won't do at that LCS. Now, I buy online because the prices are mostly better, and you can spend that time looking at books, and all pricing is upfront. To me, there is no easier way to turn someone from a hobby than to try to take them for all they're worth. Also, kinda like you're experience, most back issues I was getting at that store were in fine or worse condition. I think that it's gonna have to be up to the online community to attract new people to the hobby so they can support online comic book stores. LCSs have shot themselves in the foot. I think this video did a good job at explaining the real issues.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 6 күн бұрын
Well said! Thanks for sharing!
@paulmouradjian6045
@paulmouradjian6045 9 күн бұрын
Buy Raw Vintage periodt yep......with the 't'
@Vintage-Bob
@Vintage-Bob 9 күн бұрын
Incoming, LONG major rant! LOL! I'm an old timer. I've been collecting comics since the mid-60s. So my view of comics goes back further than a lot of other people who were born in the 80s, 90s, and later. To me the comic book hobby collapsed in several consecutive stages and each stage consisted of a different reason for the collapse - reasons that were both additive and cumulative. Stage 1 started in the mid 1980s. This is when all the great runs ended and quality in most titles dropped significantly. By 1985/1986 the following great runs were over with - Byrne on X-Men and the FF, Simonson on Thor, Perez on New Teen Titans and Avengers, Miller on Daredevil, etc. I was pretty much done with both Marvel and DC by 1987. I refer to this as the Rust Age (which follows after the Bronze Age). Stage 2 overlaps starting in 1984 with Secret Wars. Secret Wars was garbage. The writing was so bad it was unreadable. It also ushered in two different trends that destroyed the industry - the company-wide crossover and the infinite power escalation. Secret Wars was a money grab that initiated the technique of having major events that crossed over into other titles, forcing readers to buy titles they didn't want in order to figure out what the hell was going on in the titles they collected. For example, if you only read Thor, you needed to buy Secret Wars to figure out who this stupid Beyonder character is. The infinite power escalation dynamic is where the companies started constantly creating new and more powerful characters to the point where power no longer meant anything. In the classic Silver and Bronze Ages - for example - Galactus, Eternity, the Living Tribunal, etc., were major cosmic powers. Then with Secret Wars, they invented the Beyonder who - as originally portrayed - was merely the Eternity of another universe. And yet they turned him into a parody of the Christian concept of "god" - an all-powerful being beyond all others. Then they ushered in the Infinity Gauntlet and milked that travesty at least three different times that I recall - Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War, Infinity Crusade. The great powers of the Marvel Universe (Galactus, Eternity, Living Tribunal), were turned into mere punching bags in order to show how "powerful" the uber-god character of the month was. It was pathetic and ridiculous. Eternity was written as acting like a petulant child. The writing of the era made me cough up bile into my mouth. I've assigned the name "Doom Age" to this time period. Stage 2 also covers what I call the Last Gasp Age (1986-1989) - which is when the very last final great runs came to an end. Stage 3 begins in 1990 and lasts for a good decade. I call this the Gimmick Age. This age and stage are dominated by two dynamics - speculators (the word is meant in the most demeaning and pejorative sense) who started turning the hobby into a money making exercise (as did the companies). "Collectibles" were artificially manufactured - foil covers, alternate covers, ridiculous numbering of issues #0, #1/2, #1,000,000, etc. were designed to turn comics into "collectibles" for moronic speculators. And where are 99% of more of those comics now? In the 5 for $1 bin. I know one speculator who opened an entire comic book shop with box after box full of this low grade, artificial "collectible" crap. He can't even give this crap away. He may have been able to sell all of it as toilet paper during the shortage during the covid nonsense. Fittingly. This stage changed the hobby from a true hobby to a mass market psychosis where foolish people thought there were going to buy shelves full of current issues and in a few years flip them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. So at this point, we've seen a massive drop in quality content - bad art, bad writing, bad concepts, bad design. The obsession with every damned character wearing multiple garter belts and endless pouches (enough to make Batman jealous!), those hideous waist-length leather jackets we saw on Green Lantern, Superboy, Wonder Woman, Thor, etc. and just hideous costume re-design by artists who had no clue what good art is. Look at 1990s Thor with the chains, headband, Farrah Fawcett hair and leg straps - lots of straps. Ridiculous. We have constant company-wide crossovers meant to force sales - Secret Wars, Secret Wars II, etc. We saw ridiculous company-wide retcons such as Crisis On Infinite Earths (which, ironically, was the very opposite direction Marvel went with, with their 90,000 different realities and earths). Stage 4 overlaps the Gimmick Age and extends into the Sh*t Age (2000-2010). This era was dominated by ridiculous retcons, idiotic stunts that originated in the Gimmick Age (the "death" of Superman - what kind of fool would fall for such an obvious stunt? - who in their right mind would believe Superman would ever actually be killed off?) and hyper-levels of violence and sexuality on the comics. They read like they were written by "literacy challenged", horny young teen writers. By this stage the comic companies had addicts, not readers. Everything was a major event to the point where nothing was special anymore. Major events became the everyday story. Everything was a "collectible". Stage 5 is the Depravity Age (2010-today) in which virtue signaling and "woke agenda" nonsense has corrupted both major companies and propaganda writing trumps good story telling. Chris, I know you object to the word "woke", but I have to use some word to describe the political/societal propaganda that permeates the industry now and "woke" is the word most people would recognize in describing it. Comics no longer tell good stories - they promote the agenda of the writers (who often openly admit to having these agendas). Superman is gay and has a boyfriend, Wonder Woman is lesbian, Kitty Pride is bisexual, Marvel's "Pride" with entire teams of "transgender" characters, etc. There's no question whatsoever - this is just leftist propaganda that's infected comic books. No wonder sales suck. I wouldn't even offend my own backside by using this crap for toilet paper. So the comic industry has rotted from the inside out. The fruit of genius has gone moldy and is now a mass of fungal garbage. The great writers and artists moved to greener pastures, leaving untalented hacks to take over. Companies switched from generating sales by telling good stories with good art to selling addictions with constantly increased stimuli, non-stop retcons, pandering to agendas and virtue signaling, and just a massive glut of material. There must be 3,000 monthly titles being sold at this point. Yes, hyperbole, but barely. And the vast majority of them are selling at such low numbers that back in my day they'd have been cancelled for poor sales. And that's with literally 100 MILLION more people in the USA today than we had back then. And they STILL can't sell. So yeah - I'll stick to the old stuff from before it all went to hell.
@kenny_numbers
@kenny_numbers 9 күн бұрын
Fantastic summary! I agree with all of it!
@RocknComics
@RocknComics 9 күн бұрын
Excellent summary sir. I’m moving to collecting autos from books I love and I still like some of the newer cover artists but it’s more like collecting posters than books at this point.
@timreierson26
@timreierson26 9 күн бұрын
This was an amazing and well-thought out history lesson.
@CBs_Bill_from_Montana
@CBs_Bill_from_Montana 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to write this. I agree with everything you said.
@Vintage-Bob
@Vintage-Bob 8 күн бұрын
@@kenny_numbers Thanks! Glad you liked it!
@jasonhbush
@jasonhbush 8 күн бұрын
Bro you need to understand economics. You went full socialist. Look into Nixon taking us off of the gold standard.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
😂 I fully understand economics, especially since I earned my BS degree in business management. Full socialist? lol. I think you watch too much Fox News (or even CNN because it’s all garbage). Nixon taking us off the gold standard paints nowhere near the full picture of the devaluation of the dollar. The problem with ‘understanding’ economics is that people like you see it as this black and white structure that exists within a perfect free market that simply doesn’t exist. The problem is like I said: we live in an oligarchy of corporate entities that lobby our democratic political system. And that’s the cold hard truth of it. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s not ‘anti-capitalism.’ It’s just simply the truth. I’m more of a capitalist than any of you that believe what we live under right now is capitalism. But feel free to send me a dm on ig if you ever want to come on the channel and discuss the topic. I love talking on this stuff.
@jasonhbush
@jasonhbush 8 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture business management is not economics but carry on king 👑 blaming Reagan and the “rich” is the standard cope from Democrats. Look up how much of the taxes the rich pay. Both parties are spending wildly but you lost on me the Reagan rant. You didn’t even cover m2.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
@@jasonhbush Lol I can tell that the reason you are already turning this back and forth into a belittle "fest" is because you're looking at this from a 'party politic" bias. FIrst off, I didn't blame Reagan and the "rich." Many people are rich, but not all rich people control the centralization of wealth and resources and are able to lobby our politicians. Also, the value of the dollar has been declining way before Reagan, BUT, Reagan IS responsible for cutting taxes by large amounts never seen before, for the top percentiles. And to say "look how much the rich pay." It isn't the dollar amount we need to be concerned with, but the percent for those higher tax brackets. THAT is the problem. Then you bring up "both parties are spending wildly." And? When did I make this a party issue? Our government, AS A WHOLE, democrat, republican, etc., is BOUGHT OUT BY SPECIAL INTERESTS. But it seems you missed the actual point because you came into this with a "party bias," because that's where we are at in 2024. I don't put myself in boxes, and I trust no politicians, no matter what "color" they bang. Lastly, in order to earn a BS in Business Management, you need to take multiple economics, Finance, and statistical courses that go deep into the root of economics, trade, markets, etc. So thank you, I will carry on. What degrees or classes have you taken on the matter? Or was I right? All you do is watch Fox news? Regardless, I'll continue to entertain this discussion with you, and I am confident that you won't win. And I'm talking about a respectful debate, not a manbaby skat throwing contest sitting behind a screen. (BTW, I voted for more republicans than I did democrats on my last ballot for my local seats).
@jasonhbush
@jasonhbush 8 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture I don’t watch Fox News. Two degrees in History and Political Science. Voted for Ron Paul twice. ✌️
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
@@jasonhbush Well thank God! lol. Maybe we have more in common than we think. But I would challenge you to really take in what I just said and maybe see if you went into to what I was saying missing the larger concept.
@JC-dg6vo
@JC-dg6vo 9 күн бұрын
All collectables, watches, comics, cars, art, historical documents, etc... are only valuable to people willing to pay for them. If comics were stolen antiquities from war torn nations, there would be a huge black market for them and the values equally restrictive for even some wealth persons; They are not. Fun to own and read. Once in a while they organically climb in value. Keep a diversified portfolio. no more than 8% in this investment. The new stuff is cherry picked by distributors who would pull the best copies and send these to CGC, known conflict of interest, to grade while leaving lower grades for the comic shops (shop owners complain all the time). Even better, people in CGC (employees) swapping your books out with inferior copies to sell your books as theirs on eBay! You have a crap 9.2 in a 9.8 case no one wants and CGC fights you to replace. Go to your LCS and support them. Just have fun.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
Great points, but I don’t believe cgc is keeping people’s books to sell on eBay. They are a multi million dollar entity.
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 9 күн бұрын
Keep in mind depends on the wealth of that generation. Right now gen z has no money. Boomers have money. Millennials will soon inherit all the wealth and be the wealthiest generation. These were kids in the 90s who loved comics
@JC-dg6vo
@JC-dg6vo 8 күн бұрын
@@MetalBum It is like the song..."Is that your tax bracket or your parents" Europe is a wonderful example of inheritance wealth and the too few that kept it. The monies are made by innovators, not those who sit on their hands.
@JC-dg6vo
@JC-dg6vo 8 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture You are correct, the company itself is not keeping the books. Its employees were the representatives who got caught and instead of owning it, CGC y put up all kinds of bluster and settled out of court because the problem is bigger than the list.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
@@JC-dg6vo ohhhh wow.
@davidsamuelson2089
@davidsamuelson2089 8 күн бұрын
Remember greedflation is not the same as inflation - they can all go out of business.
@Doombot2.0
@Doombot2.0 8 күн бұрын
The real comic book community doesnt watch Swag or other channels about values. They watch story and lore based channels. The fomo/flipper community that sees comics as a commidity first is whats struggling. The recent xmen packs proved everything you need to know about the failure of the fomo community.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 7 күн бұрын
Seems that your definiteily of "real" is very much a subjective personal opinion, and I disagree with how you seem to be defining the term. But to your point, those channels that do the story and lore based content are the biggest ones out there.
@isitunlimited
@isitunlimited 9 күн бұрын
"In a down market, the only thing to sell on is emotion." That's the quote of the year for me.
@TripleGcomics
@TripleGcomics 9 күн бұрын
What a brilliant stream and discussion. Loved it
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@iangreene2316
@iangreene2316 9 күн бұрын
Good to see this content again!
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for being here!
@gotgame226
@gotgame226 8 күн бұрын
My LCS has had some great wall books sitting on the wall for years, I’ve offered reasonable prices but he refuses to budge, they remain on the wall to this day. He even has them listed online, at some put you just need to let go and get new inventory.
@Doombot2.0
@Doombot2.0 8 күн бұрын
Makes little sense when a store owner won't budget on a price when he bought the book for pennies on the dollar in a collection as is always the case. They all get instantly defensive about being taken advantage of when their entire business model is based on taking advantage of others. If a store won't accept a fair offer I won't buy a single book and I won't return. They need me more than I need them.
@gotgame226
@gotgame226 7 күн бұрын
@@Doombot2.0 yep, you’re absolutely right. I go to another shop in the next town over now. His loss
@aaronrankin1092
@aaronrankin1092 9 күн бұрын
I may start a fight here but… all this is gibberish lol way over my head, but I was talking to my LCS a few years ago and I was told that once comics switched from the paper to the glossy pages they were only worth cover price and nothing more. They could be wrong but the way I see it I refuse to buy a comic that came out a few months ago for more than cover. Doesn’t matter if it’s getting a movie or a first appearance. I’ll just go buy the trade. But that’s just me and how I roll.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 6 күн бұрын
I like your way of thinking when it comes to buying new comics, but that LCS guy makes absolutely no sense. The quality of the paper has no relation to the value of the book in terms of it being a sought after collectible. There are plenty of modern books with mag paper that are worth thousands of books, and plent of newssprint books from decades ago that are worthless. Guy is trippin.
@aaronrankin1092
@aaronrankin1092 6 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture When a collecting hobby shifts from passion to profit, it transforms from joy to toxicity, suffocating the love that once fueled it. That’s how I feel about how this hobby and what I feel it’s become.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 6 күн бұрын
@@aaronrankin1092 I wouldn't say it's that black and white because every "business," or industry, etc. is based on profits, and just because something is profitable, doesn't mean it's toxic and loses the love, but I do agree that it is easy for the "profiting" side of things to strip the love out of it. Look at the music industry for example, which I was heavily involved in for over a decade of my life. So yeah, the soul of comics is becoming lost in the wind.
@darthlopez9871
@darthlopez9871 9 күн бұрын
Good stuff 🫡🫡
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
👊🏼
@isabelmoreira5016
@isabelmoreira5016 9 күн бұрын
When you live outside of USA you always have to embrace the hunt. and it's funny
@noahidecomics
@noahidecomics 9 күн бұрын
FMV will matter more when the market gets bigger and bigger because it becomes less erratic and more predictable and stable.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
I do not see the comic market getting any bigger. As a matter of fact, outside of Golden age for the secondary market, and manga for the primary market, the comic market is shrinking, and has been for 30 years.
@dariopressimone7810
@dariopressimone7810 9 күн бұрын
Chris/Mickey, Have been following your channels for years. Keep putting out great content. So, nothing new here, but the horse has left the barn for good, for most silver thru modern books. Not saying the community still isn't viable, it is, but people and dealers bought so many books at the high, they are looking to eke out any profit or minimize a loss. I go to shows all the time and still see last year's prices. Come on. The silly money has left the game and the true hardcore collectors are still left, hence less money. I'm a fanatic FF fan and just finished a full run (lifelong goal), but I even regret buying raw books off IG seller even 3-4 months ago. I'm a holder though but If I was a small seller, no way I could make a living buying high and selling low. But I love comics and community but super selective now. Talk soon. D
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
Well said! Thanks for sharing!
@Adamantium-23
@Adamantium-23 8 күн бұрын
I see what you two did with this one. You dropped the absolute science and truth about a multitude of topics. Man, good job! This is what we need for the community and this is how we affect change within the industry. Peace and blessings! Keep that real deal data flowing...Hats off to the gentleman and a round of applause!
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
@jasonhbush
@jasonhbush 8 күн бұрын
Blue Moon comics in San Rafael
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
Yes, thank you!
@jasonhbush
@jasonhbush 8 күн бұрын
@@JernosComicsPopCulture he’s pretty fair in pricing. I heard you mention A1. I stop by there when near Sacramento. You’re spot on though with the LCS chasing those whatnot prices. I see that at some shops near me in SF. Fantastic Comics in Berkeley is one of best for fair prices on back issues. The owner loves to talk baseball and comics.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
@@jasonhbush Well I'm glad we agree on something! lol
@JediFarce
@JediFarce 9 күн бұрын
Perhaps if you looked at comic collecting as the same as stamp collecting, you'll understand why it's dying. Maybe its a generational activity that people lose interest as the collectors die off.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
That’s the one thing I forgot to bring up in the stream tonight. In 25 years, all people born in the 80s will be in their 60s. Collectors are dying out.
@latch78
@latch78 9 күн бұрын
Technology killed comics
@lake_jota
@lake_jota 9 күн бұрын
…damn the sad truth
@lake_jota
@lake_jota 9 күн бұрын
@@latch78 hahaha so true. Ask Playboy if tech helped sell books
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 9 күн бұрын
Marvel backed by big institution of Disney will keep comics alive. Comic culture and the collectible books will continue with disneys backing Postal use and non digital mail is dying yes.
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 9 күн бұрын
Good interview man 👍
@tommypiffington3374
@tommypiffington3374 9 күн бұрын
‘Twas wondering how old was this 😂 guess not 🤙🏽
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 8 күн бұрын
Not sure I understand your comment.
@tommypiffington3374
@tommypiffington3374 8 күн бұрын
Just figured this had to be new
@MetalBum
@MetalBum 9 күн бұрын
Keep in mind demographics when thinking comics will go down in value. Eventually millennials will take over the wealth of boomers. Millennials will soon have much more wealth and these were kids in the 80s 90s during the 90s comic boom Also consider Disney corporation backing comic character and keeping primal Marcel heroes up. As well as DC studios and Warner brothers backing original comic mythology to this day. Steven this new generation loves these characters. Disney willl continue shilling the comic heroes IP and keep the interest alive in the foreseeable future 🚀
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 6 күн бұрын
I definitely hear you about Disney. But like I said in another response, I don't think looking at millennials as a whole like that is something I fully agree with, because my generation is struggling way worse than boomers. We are losing social security. Cost of living is outrageous, wages are stagnant, and the current working middle class is shrinking. We are losing wealth.
@lake_jota
@lake_jota 9 күн бұрын
My two fav’s 😎
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
👊🏼
@jabezcreed
@jabezcreed 9 күн бұрын
The fed increases the money supply so the rest of the population doesn't come for the rich people hoarding the rest. So inflation actually makes rich people less wealthy as well. The system perpetuates at a modest balance.
@JernosComicsPopCulture
@JernosComicsPopCulture 9 күн бұрын
But it’s the hoarding of wealth that perpetuates the cycle of having to increase the money supply, which actually perpetuates a shrinking middle class. Tax the rich, redistribute the wealth and increase wages to livable means, and the value of the dollar remains stronger.
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