The Complete Evolution of Ultimate Weapons

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4 жыл бұрын

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Ultimate Weapons are a pretty cool element contained within video games and Final Fantasy has, of course, featured many of the years.
Within this video, we'll be looking at how Ultimate Weapons have evolved from their first appearance within Final Fantasy I (Masamune/Excalibur), all the way through to Eureka Weapons in Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood.
►KEY POINTS WITHIN THIS VIDEO
1. Final Fantasy I (Masamune / Excalibur)
2. Final Fantasy II Masamune
3. Final Fantasy III Onion Sword
4. Final Fantasy IV Ragnarok
5. Final Fantasy V Ragnarok
6. Final Fantasy VI Lightbringer / Ultima Weapon
7. Final Fantasy VII Ultimate Weapons
8. Final Fantasy VIII Lionhart
9. Final Fantasy IX Excalibur II
10. Final Fantasy X Ultimate Weapons
11. Final Fantasy XI Mythic Weapons
12. Final Fantasy XII Zodiac Spear
13. Final Fantasy XIII Ultimate Weapons
14. Final Fantasy XIV Eureka Weapons
15. Final Fantasy XV Ultima Blade
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@FinalFantasyUnion
@FinalFantasyUnion 4 жыл бұрын
We hope you enjoy this recent exploration into how concepts have evolved throughout the Final Fantasy franchise! It was a pretty interesting one to dive into and it makes us very excited about what other themes, tropes and topics we can explore in the future! ~Darryl/Lauren
@DanielSmith-mp4le
@DanielSmith-mp4le 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance you could do a complete Evolution episode about Job systems in Final Fantasy?
@FinalFantasyUnion
@FinalFantasyUnion 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel! We've done individual videos about Blue/Red Mages, but are you referring more to an over-arching video about at the Job System in general? If so, that's definitely one we'd like to look into in the future! ~Darryl
@DanielSmith-mp4le
@DanielSmith-mp4le 4 жыл бұрын
@@FinalFantasyUnion yes that's actually what I meant job systems in general
@AndrewBabbitt
@AndrewBabbitt 4 жыл бұрын
Sad to see FFXIV didn't get the Ultimate fights weapons listed as they are hardest to obtain in the game. Surprised they weren't even mentioned in the video.
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 4 жыл бұрын
The Brave Blade was the strongest weapon in the vanilla version of V ( if you managed to avoid running from a single battle)
@unwithering5313
@unwithering5313 4 жыл бұрын
*The ultimate weapon for Monks:* Being Unarmed
@mrdude88
@mrdude88 4 жыл бұрын
Unwithering Not quite, Monks are usually given gloves as weapon. And in the older FF, they usually give you 1 right off the bat when they should’ve given you 2 for both hand in order to increase your attack stats further.
@christophercheck1590
@christophercheck1590 4 жыл бұрын
I remember in FF1 (the NES version) that the monk's damage actually went UP when he unequipped Masamune, once you get close to level 50. That blew my mind as a kid.
@unwithering5313
@unwithering5313 4 жыл бұрын
@@christophercheck1590 in the NES version a monk's unarmed attack is double their level, their crit rate is their level and for every extra hit they get two (Monks are OP)
@SGSensei
@SGSensei 4 жыл бұрын
@@unwithering5313 I know everyone loves Tifa and so do I but my favorite monk is Sabin he is great
@TheLastGarou
@TheLastGarou 4 жыл бұрын
@@SGSensei "Oh? That house is on collapsing *and* ON FIRE? Here, I'll hold it up while you rescue the trapped kid." - Sabin Rene Figaro Also: "Okay, I'll just Suplex the Train-To-The-Afterlife."
@TheGamersState
@TheGamersState 3 жыл бұрын
I personally love it when an Ultimate Weapon is character exclusive. Yes it is cool when you can have multiple characters or even all characters use an ultimate weapon but I feel that comes at the cost of the uniqueness of the weapon.
@DavidRYates-tk2tq
@DavidRYates-tk2tq Ай бұрын
I agree, because each character should just have their own unique type of weapon, and the ultimate weapons being unique to each character obviously follows from that.
@harrygainer
@harrygainer 4 жыл бұрын
The pursuit of ultimate weapons for every character has took up the lion's share of my time playing most Final Fantasy's.
@jamesmcqe9287
@jamesmcqe9287 4 жыл бұрын
Ultimate weapons and superbosses, am I right
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcqe9287 Ultimate Weapons will be like Master Sword in Zelda/Breath of the Wild, but you remembered "Durability" exists... [Master Sword... Shattered!].
@ryanbroome177
@ryanbroome177 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to get the golden chocobo when I first started final fantasy 7!i could have got a degree all them hours and grinding. Never could breed one which annoyed me 😭👍
@medleysa
@medleysa 3 жыл бұрын
Especially 10 and 12, but ESPECIALLY 11
@GrieverSSBU
@GrieverSSBU 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that bugs me is when something required for an ultimate weapon is locked behind a super boss. Or when you get something super OP right at the end. I mean it does make sense but things like The Handcannon in Dead Space 2 requires you to slog through the hardest difficulty with only 3 total saves and zero checkpoints to obtain it and then you get to have it. The only real use you get from it is saving the second hardest mode for it otherwise, you get a pat on the back and a pretty much OHK on everything in the game. That's great and all but without something uber strong to use it on, what's the point?
@duchi882
@duchi882 4 жыл бұрын
*The Ultimate Weapon:* 1. Plot Armor
@patsg1146
@patsg1146 4 жыл бұрын
That one even made a surprise cameo in Game of Thrones!
@underkitten
@underkitten 4 жыл бұрын
What's that? - galuf Dunno, never heard of it. - aerith
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 4 жыл бұрын
2) "Story Plot Holes" - [+1 to Plot Armor Per Frame Rate].
@BendyStrawhat
@BendyStrawhat 4 жыл бұрын
the power of anime
@SGSensei
@SGSensei 4 жыл бұрын
What's this Anime
@Kevbotty
@Kevbotty 4 жыл бұрын
In DISSIDIA, when a character goes into EX mode, they wield their ultimate weapons from their respective games. EX mode increased your damage, so technically it functioned the same as equipping ultimate weapons in the mainline games.
@SonofTiamat
@SonofTiamat 4 жыл бұрын
Like when Bartz uses the Brave Blade. Strongest weapon in the game (if you manage to avoid running from a single battle)
@QuantemDeconstructor
@QuantemDeconstructor 4 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest things I noticed in those games are Tidus' Caladbolg, and Gabranth splitting his blade
@zeroattentiongaming820
@zeroattentiongaming820 4 жыл бұрын
@@QuantemDeconstructor Clouds Ultima Weapon worked like it did in 6 and 7 with your current health affecting your damage output.
@QuantemDeconstructor
@QuantemDeconstructor 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeroattentiongaming820 right, that too
@valletas
@valletas 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on what character goes to ex
@videozoom12
@videozoom12 3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason there hasn't been too many "ultimate weapons" in games is because some people feel it "breaks" the game. The current climate with games is to have a balanced approach as things have sort of shifted away from single player into our multiplayer climate we see today. I LOVE my single player games and cherish the idea of ultimate weapons and becoming godly. I do understand and feel the sentiment though of breaking the game. I do like the progression of making the ultimate weapons ultimate through continued knowledge of the game. Fantastic video friend.
@DavidRYates-tk2tq
@DavidRYates-tk2tq Ай бұрын
"Balance" is so fucking overrated and gets way too much focus. It's so much more fun to break a game and become extremely powerful and unstoppable.
@rkbelmont1138
@rkbelmont1138 4 жыл бұрын
"Hey, I have an idea. To get the strongest sword for Steiner lets ask the player to go trough an insane speedrun. That'll be lots of fun!!" - Some asshole madman from FF9 production team
@Omni-kyun
@Omni-kyun 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the time limitations you are also forced to skip certain other missable items during the speedrun, which is hell for any completionist out there. :\
@zidaryn
@zidaryn 4 жыл бұрын
It makes Steiner the core of any FF IX speed run team.
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 4 жыл бұрын
I do plenty damage with rustys ragnarok never bothered getting Excalibur 2
@zidaryn
@zidaryn 4 жыл бұрын
@@bronysaiyan5236 Same as the rest of us.
@wiseguy240Winston
@wiseguy240Winston 4 жыл бұрын
Lol nothing compared to the sadist behind ffx's ultimate weapon quest.😆
@pockystyx4087
@pockystyx4087 4 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the ultimate weapon. . . the chicken knife.
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 4 жыл бұрын
Pocky Styx it is just so damn good. It Carried me hard
@Gothaman1
@Gothaman1 4 жыл бұрын
oh please, just goblin punch with excalipoor
@ke8mattj
@ke8mattj 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone mentioned this. The Chicken Knife is the best weapon ever. I'm willing to run away from battles just to power it up.
@bluepikmin6363
@bluepikmin6363 3 жыл бұрын
There is Brave Blade in the same game, and it functions essentialy they same, just the opposite. If you never run, it's the strongest sword in the game.
@alanlee67
@alanlee67 2 жыл бұрын
This thread is for the true ff geeks. I love it
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to argue that Excalibur is on the same level as Masamune in the original Final Fantasy. Due to programming errors, Excalibur's "effective against every type/element" didn't work.
@kimmolaine8069
@kimmolaine8069 4 жыл бұрын
FFX was a true celebration of the ultimate weapon. They needed hard work to obtain, and their abilities were game changing.
@ryanbroome177
@ryanbroome177 4 жыл бұрын
Thing is i love final fantasy finished 7891012. Gonna do 6 again cos never finished.!but some ultimates are so annoying to get like the lion heart. Without a guide i would have not done it
@wiseguy240Winston
@wiseguy240Winston 4 жыл бұрын
Felt like ff13 had me work the hardest for ultimate weapons and I played them all except 11 and 14. It wasn't a matter of stealing, minigames or finding them but you had to make a shit ton of upgrades by grinding parts. Know what parts are point multipliers and what parts are for pure exp and then you needed a material only obtainable through the strongest enemies in the game at a 5% chance.😩
@Vayne_Solidor
@Vayne_Solidor 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say 12 has the hardest ultimate weapons to get.
@kaitlyngarner740
@kaitlyngarner740 3 жыл бұрын
@Johnston Steiner 200 lightning strikes were easy compared to finishing the chocobo race in 0.00.00
@kaitlyngarner740
@kaitlyngarner740 3 жыл бұрын
@Daz Ediss god I hate speed run trophies. The only one i have is the one in Kingdom Hearts but that's only because if you finished the game from hour 100 to hour 115, the game thinks you've finished it in under 15 hours
@TheAdarkerglow
@TheAdarkerglow 4 жыл бұрын
Well, in FF7, the real difference between Ultimate and Penultimate weapons wasn't the raw damage of the weapon, it was the additional materia slots that the character got. They all had the drawback of x0 Materia Growth, while most of those of the rank just below it would have very limited slots with a larger materia progression. I feel like that should've been mentioned, because it really was quite a difference when facing the Ruby and Emerald Weapons, since the player would need those additional slots for most of the better spell combinations.
@aspect467
@aspect467 4 жыл бұрын
ngl i am still a brainded idiot in this game lol in ff7 rn i still haven't finished it yet, i have like 78 str on cloud if i am right? then i am using yushiyuki with d blow in it and long range lel stillweak tho
@zacharyyowarski3004
@zacharyyowarski3004 3 жыл бұрын
On top of that (I replayed ff7 like a month ago) all of the ultimate weapons for each character had a specific damage calculator attached, like how damage on clouds ultima was linked to his having mx hp, or barretts getting stronger with more equipped AP on materias.
@franimal86
@franimal86 Жыл бұрын
I never used ultimate weapons against the Weapons. I found it more important to gain 500k AP and master a bunch of materia.
@samurizzy
@samurizzy 4 жыл бұрын
Behold! A weapon to surpass Metal Gear!
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 4 жыл бұрын
The chicken knife
@awesomehazimex7410
@awesomehazimex7410 3 жыл бұрын
@@plabcentral630 BEHOLD THE POWER OF MY GOBLIN PUNCH CHICKEN KNIFE COMBO
@femcelfootjob
@femcelfootjob 3 жыл бұрын
THE EXCALIPOOR GOBLIN PUNCH COMBO
@ChrisAurora
@ChrisAurora 4 жыл бұрын
Another important thing about FF7's ultimates lie in the fact that weapon (and armor) choices directly effect that character's magic loadout as well. So the ultimates were real end- game weapons, with no materia growth, but allowing for 8 linked slots and the choices of materia that comes with that. So even with not-that-good battle stats compared to lower- tier weapons, they still allowed their wielder to become way more powerful than normal.
@DanielYuStar_Pachirisu_Feet
@DanielYuStar_Pachirisu_Feet 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite Ultima Weapons aren't even from FF, they are from Kingdom Hearts main numbered games, because of them being a reward in the crafting system and super stylish designs
@DeeFig66
@DeeFig66 4 жыл бұрын
I love them because they are insanely impractical looking but oooh Stats and Shiney! XD
@gaelg.c3256
@gaelg.c3256 4 жыл бұрын
They are so awesome!!
@Wellgee
@Wellgee 4 жыл бұрын
Yes except for crafting in kh1 final. I hated farming those fucking monkeys in Tarzan jungle during final mix.
@Zelkiiro
@Zelkiiro 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wellgee Hard agree. Final Mix fucking ruined KH1 with its additional crafting items and stupid gimmick Heartless.
@roxas5071
@roxas5071 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes Except for 2 there you just use Descive Pumpkin and limit form then done
@g3neralrevan27
@g3neralrevan27 4 жыл бұрын
The chicken knife and brave blade from FFV had interesting mechanics, and they could be stronger than the ragnarok at their max, felt like that was left out
@rodrigobueno8652
@rodrigobueno8652 2 жыл бұрын
he forgot about the blood sword too
@jaredlittleford1217
@jaredlittleford1217 Жыл бұрын
Brave blade was the strongest game in ffv's original version as long as you never ran from battle. The chicken knife capped out almost 25 points lower. While being more powerful than most weapons the chicken knife couldn't reach ragnorok levels
@cyanimation1605
@cyanimation1605 4 жыл бұрын
“They must be the most powerful weapons in the game.” Tidus with a crafted weapon: *AAHH HA HA HA HA HA HA*
@davidmcguire6043
@davidmcguire6043 4 жыл бұрын
You can't craft anything more powerful than the upgraded celestial weapons in 10. Aside from their obvious strength they each have other effects and abilities that can't be copied.
@33link333
@33link333 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidmcguire6043 If you have the stats to deal max damage naturally you can actually craft weapons better then the celestials since 1 mp cost is god tier. Mind you most people don't play to that stage and it's the most boring thing in existence so I would have to agree with you.
@davidmcguire6043
@davidmcguire6043 4 жыл бұрын
@@33link333 the celestial weapons have effects and boosts that are not listed you can Google them and I may be in the strategy guide but it doesn't list it in the game but really all anyone needs is Yuna as a black mage with one MP cost, magic boost, break damage limit, ultima and double cast
@lucent4144
@lucent4144 4 жыл бұрын
@@33link333 Ultimate Weapons (Celestial Weapons) cannot be surpassed by any kind of custom made weapon because they provide boost that aren't visible in game or anywhere else. For example: Tidus, Wakka, Rikku and Kimahri's will provide more damage when you're at full HP, also it ignored enemy defense (but not piercing); vice versa for our mages Lulu and Yuna the damage scales higher when they have full MP. Auron is the only exception here as his was scale with how low his HP was, maximum dps is achieved at 30% HP, that's also why his celestial weapon Masamune has counterattack instead of evade and counter, it makes Auron get hit more often since lower HP = higher dps. The more you know :)
@33link333
@33link333 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucent4144 I specifically said if you can hit the damage limit naturally in which case one mp cost is technically worth more then the hidden damage multipliers, I then said that only a tiny fraction of people play to that point so it is largely irrelevant. I know full well how the celestial weapons work but that's completely missing my point.
@markdemarco4119
@markdemarco4119 4 жыл бұрын
Totally glossing over the Seitengrat in Final Fantasy XII. I get thats it’s collected from a hidden chest and is a 1/10,000 chance, but it’s still the most powerful weapon in the game.
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 4 жыл бұрын
It was a dev weapon that got exploited in. Def not an ultimate weapon
@Megaman8880
@Megaman8880 4 жыл бұрын
There are RNG exploits you can manipulate in order to 100% get it every single time. I have enough Seitengrats to equip one for each character.
@intensellylit4100
@intensellylit4100 3 жыл бұрын
They do tend to keep mention of things from later ports in the background compared to the original.
@SGSensei
@SGSensei 4 жыл бұрын
One of the things I loved or thought was super interesting about the ultima weapons in 7 was they had no materia leveling basically telling you hey this is it ( which is what Ultimate means, the end )
@Zansekai
@Zansekai 3 жыл бұрын
So that's why my materia never leveled...
@alejandro_rodriguez_99
@alejandro_rodriguez_99 3 жыл бұрын
Except aerith ultimate weapon.
@SGSensei
@SGSensei 3 жыл бұрын
@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 well her's is a special case itself
@user-ef7gn4jy6v
@user-ef7gn4jy6v 4 жыл бұрын
I really like ff13's flexible ultimate weapon system.
@phillystevesteak6982
@phillystevesteak6982 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like it, because when you obtain a new weapon it feels less like a definitive upgrade and more like an alternative option. This ruins the excitement of acquiring a new weapon. And it's my biggest problem with games that go the route of "all weapons are created equal". FF7Remake - however - has a novel solution, where you can master weapons to get permanent stat gains and new movesets which carry over onto any other weapon. So, obtaining a new weapon is still a definitive upgrade to your character, yet simultaneously you can use whatever you want. Can't be more excited for...
@FlutterSwag
@FlutterSwag 4 жыл бұрын
Never played 13 how does it work?
@Shoop400
@Shoop400 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlutterSwag You have to upgrade weapons using enemy item drops. Ultima weapons are particularly difficult as the components are incredibly rare and given the fact that ultima weapons don't have an equipment group for item bonuses. Sometimes I wonder if they are truly worth it.
@kingfail3819
@kingfail3819 4 жыл бұрын
Crazyhart Over the course of the game, enemies drop upgrade materials that you can use to power up the weapons you collect. They go through 3 distinct stages as they are upgraded, and when a weapon reaches its 3rd stage, it becomes an “ultimate weapon.” That’s the simplest way to put it.
@Shoop400
@Shoop400 4 жыл бұрын
@CrimsonCaius YES, I don't even know an efficient way of doing that.
@Neoknightshade
@Neoknightshade 4 жыл бұрын
While technically not a legendary weapon, gotta give a shout out to the ff6 valiant knife
@lucasAA927
@lucasAA927 4 жыл бұрын
Chicken knife
@shawnmcnally1254
@shawnmcnally1254 4 жыл бұрын
The Valiant Knife and Ultima Weapon make Locke a pretty powerful character.
@jamesmcqe9287
@jamesmcqe9287 4 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos guys, you all put in so much work and time into a series we all love, so thanks a lot
@MultiClassGeek
@MultiClassGeek 4 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that VI and VII had drawbacks with their Ultimates. VII’s zero-Materia-growth schtick meant I, personally, never used them, and to get Illumina in VI required you to give up the Ragnarok Esper (which I never did - the Morph ability was too useful)
@jeremygilbert7989
@jeremygilbert7989 4 жыл бұрын
You missed one thing about Ragnarok in VI. Another unique feature of it is that you have to choose to either make it a sword or keep it as an esper and since the only way for anyone but Terra to learn Ultima the spell is via either the Ragnarok esper or the Paladin's shield, which is a headache and a half to obtain and should get an honorable mention for being the ultimate shield, you have to forego getting arguably the most powerful spell in the game on nearly your entire party until it's basically redundant should you choose to keep it a sword but if you make it an esper you can never get Lightbringer at all. Like something out of Star Wars, quick and easy path and all lol.
@thomaswalsh5848
@thomaswalsh5848 3 жыл бұрын
I always go with the sword so I can get Illumina. Then I give it to Celes along with the paladin shield, minverva bustier and the oath veil and she becomes my atma weapon..
@RedHeadFury-
@RedHeadFury- 2 жыл бұрын
Ultima Weapon is actually better than Ragnarok, slap it on someone with high HP
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 4 жыл бұрын
Was the Buster Sword ever an ultima weapon? It’s just so iconic for Zack Fair and Cloud Strife that I couldn’t bear using a different sword.
@settingittowumbo1953
@settingittowumbo1953 4 жыл бұрын
I got all of the sword abilities in FF7R and then just upgraded my buster sword for that specific reason. I started playing the original though and I couldn’t keep using that thing lol
@JJMomoida
@JJMomoida 4 жыл бұрын
Hahah I feel the same way. I associate the buster sword with Cloud and Zack so it feels a bit weird seeing Cloud wielding anything else.
@latencyisbad2654
@latencyisbad2654 4 жыл бұрын
In the original game its clouds weakest sword because he starts with it, but he’s still strong enough to never NEED to change weapons. In the remake the buster sword is a weapon that you can use for the entire game because you can upgrade it and it’s pretty well balanced.
@chriswakley2362
@chriswakley2362 3 жыл бұрын
Technically it's zacks ultimate weapon in crisis core...
@rickysprangle4523
@rickysprangle4523 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriswakley2362 not like you can change weapons in CC though
@AkuNoHana
@AkuNoHana 4 жыл бұрын
I think you could emphasize more on how insane, brutal, and near impossible for most people to obtain the ultimate weapon in FFXI. It still stands as the most hardcore undertaking in any game I've ever played. It takes anywhere from months to years with a good number of real people dedicating their time to your cause over the journey.
@Hoggaththegreat
@Hoggaththegreat 4 жыл бұрын
4:56 Blood sword : am I a joke to you?
@sanybalkanaciairsoft3253
@sanybalkanaciairsoft3253 4 жыл бұрын
Too Op, thats why its not there.
@fressejetzt840
@fressejetzt840 4 жыл бұрын
It's not op wtf xd
@martinwiseley2580
@martinwiseley2580 4 жыл бұрын
@@fressejetzt840 it is against bosses cuz it deals damage based on their health
@fressejetzt840
@fressejetzt840 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinwiseley2580 yeah, but bosses are not op either ☝ They are predictable and easy to beat once you know how. I am not saying the sword isn't good, but it's not op in a pvp match or even bosses since there are many ways to beat all bosses quicker and easier than tje sword ever could
@lordmoldybutt6361
@lordmoldybutt6361 4 жыл бұрын
I live this channel. You deserve so much attention bro. Well made & well researched. Bravo.
@House_of_Green
@House_of_Green 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video, ultimate weapons have always been my thing
@DeeFig66
@DeeFig66 4 жыл бұрын
Kingdom Hearts also has it's Ultima(te) Weapon (Keyblade) that involves tireless grinding of monsters for drop items that can be synthesize by moogles to create it. It's existed in all KH games and is normally considered a post game quest since certain monsters were only achievable at the late game stages. In that way, it's very much like a regular Ultimate since by the time you get it, you're very much OP for the main storyline. However, KH has secret bosses that are WAY harder than the Final Story boss so it's not has redundant as certain FF games.
@nocturnalnights27
@nocturnalnights27 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, keep up the great vids 👍
@DashingDavid
@DashingDavid 4 жыл бұрын
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@nicolugo913
@nicolugo913 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! This gave me the motivation to finally finish FFX!!
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@tvdinner1986 3 жыл бұрын
Great video series, scratches an itch I didnt know I had. Also: a fun drinking game! take a shot every time the narrator says "natural progression"
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@joimarise 4 жыл бұрын
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@bimjun2058
@bimjun2058 Жыл бұрын
13:11 "Cloud's ultimate weapon is the only weapon that requires fighting a boss to obtain." Assault Gun from Guard Scorpion: "Am I a joke to you?"
@Vayne_Solidor
@Vayne_Solidor 2 жыл бұрын
Farming the Wyrmhero Blade (FF12 : Yiazmat, Omega, fishimg sidequest) was so much fun.
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@deadmilkman121 4 жыл бұрын
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@ilias-2b912
@ilias-2b912 4 жыл бұрын
15:17 aaahh my true mentor, my guiding moonlight
@DragonOracle
@DragonOracle 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Final Fantasy 2's main Ultima weapon: the fists. Yes These are the Best freaking weapon in the game.
@Skul1ManEXE
@Skul1ManEXE 4 жыл бұрын
Punch enemies to increase unarmed damage, then punch yourself to increase max HP.
@arcstar8337
@arcstar8337 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skul1ManEXE better pinch yourself first I remember one hiring myself because I prioritized my damage over my health I had to equip my characters with weapons instead of bare fists just to not kill my characters
@PukiLynx
@PukiLynx 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video from this channel
@TheKinobius
@TheKinobius 4 жыл бұрын
Hi team! Great reviews and awesome videos! I seriously love it! :) May I request to have a history of Biggs and Wedge in all Final Fantasy as well? Thank youu! You guys are awesome!
@ModernDayRenaissanceMan
@ModernDayRenaissanceMan 3 жыл бұрын
Those guys are the greatest cameo players ever. Cid being the MVP who you also get to play as.
@Artofficial1986
@Artofficial1986 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, loved it. Thanks.
@machdude3366
@machdude3366 2 жыл бұрын
I do love the fact that sequence breaking and prioritizing exploration can really juice your performance in FFXII while still letting you use those toys against the numerous challenge bosses. Many of the "non-hack" gear could be found throughout the game and they remain relevant throughout. The "busted as shit" gear is useful for trial mode which gives them some use as well.
@respawin4513
@respawin4513 4 жыл бұрын
How about an evolution video about Biggs and Wedge throughout the series?
@MrSlippy68
@MrSlippy68 4 жыл бұрын
I know it isn't a weapon, but the Adamant armor in FF4 really gives that feeling of being invincible. Plus, it fits the criteria of being a pain in the ass to get.
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 4 жыл бұрын
Ffiv paladin shield should have been here too
@Spookybluelights
@Spookybluelights 4 жыл бұрын
I would personally love an entire video dedicated to the ways FFXI did ultimate weapons. Tbh any XI specific content in general would be awesome.
@TearDownGenesis
@TearDownGenesis 4 жыл бұрын
FFT had some ultimates and were often tricky to get.
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 4 жыл бұрын
Chaos Blade
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 4 жыл бұрын
Chiri not gonna spell it out den lol
@derin6205
@derin6205 4 жыл бұрын
FFT was amazing
@ke8mattj
@ke8mattj 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it took a lot of resets and hopes we got Ninjas to throw some of them on the next to last stage of the Deep Dungeon.
@TearDownGenesis
@TearDownGenesis 4 жыл бұрын
@@ke8mattj The break, steal and throw in that game annoyed the crap out of me.
@RainbowDashShadesOfApproval
@RainbowDashShadesOfApproval 3 жыл бұрын
17:06 "Performing well in minigames" Me who has gone through the hell to get all celestial weapons multiple times: -_-
@keltzy
@keltzy 4 жыл бұрын
Loved that Atma weapon in FFVI. Being based on HP kept zombie Locke from wiping my party several times.
@Chronamut
@Chronamut 3 жыл бұрын
back in the day I did the realm sketch on an invisible enemy glitch - this gave me a buncha secret weapons like paladine shields and more than one atma weapon. 2 atma weapons + genji glove + offering = the ability to attack 8 x for 9999 each - you can kill any ultimate enemy in one or more shots with this.
@mr.jeorgexiii1732
@mr.jeorgexiii1732 4 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you guys could make a video about the ultimate weapons featured in the Dissidia franchise, since many of them aren't true weapons but cool references and callbacks to their respective games for example Golbez's is the Zeromus shard, which is not a weapon featured in FF4 but it was a shard he gave to Cecil in order to be able to damage the final boss
@Changetheling
@Changetheling 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Whale Whisker the ultimate Freya lance? Excellent video. Subbed.
@RuneTrips
@RuneTrips 3 жыл бұрын
goddamn these videos are so fucking good. I listen to these in their entirety
@nmore7297
@nmore7297 3 жыл бұрын
I remember I played FFIV so much I found a kind of alternative for Kain's Holy Lance. It was the Dragoon one. It would decimate some enemies better than the Holy Lance.
@minilabyrinth
@minilabyrinth 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite hands down is Lionheart in FF8. There's nothing cooler than semi-transparent listerine-colored blades
@overkill_716
@overkill_716 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure is this was implemented in any FF game already, but I think it would be cool to have the option of obtaining ultimate weapons early on. The reason would be because the strength of the weapon is inherently tied to how much you use it. Normal weapons could have static damage output, but ultimates could potentially have higher output if leveled up with the character. And instead of the character learning abilities from having a weapon equipped, the opposite would be true. The weapon could be equipped by various characters to give it unique abilities like chance to absorb health, cause status affects or cast certain black magic, but only if those characters knew those spells. There would have to be limits of course, and maybe the amount of exp the weapon got would be based on certain types of character damage output while wielding it per encounter. Idk, just like theorizing about stuff like this.
@mlburkh
@mlburkh 3 жыл бұрын
I remember building a Mandau in FFXI. I even got it to item level 119 before i quit playing. I was so proud of it. And those weapons were psychotic. Mandau had the soul of a bloodthirsty woman in it. She always wanted to kill. She'd constantly ask for blood from the PC.
@saladinboss2507
@saladinboss2507 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Darryl and Lauren. How about the evolution of Biggs and Wedge for the next topic?
@chrischandler889
@chrischandler889 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen that ff6 fan game demo where biggs and wedge get teleported to the ancient castle under Figaro 80s and go on a crazy adventure? It was never finished sadly
@johnnyscifi
@johnnyscifi 4 жыл бұрын
Real talk: why does the fighter job from I, III, and Firion all look the same? Coincidence, i think not...;)
@inter-partyconflict9540
@inter-partyconflict9540 4 жыл бұрын
Because Firion was a fighter?
@iamthereddemon20
@iamthereddemon20 3 күн бұрын
I really liked how 13 handled it, allowing for a player to customise their characters stats a bit more via weapon upgrades feels good imo
@abelardodiaz69
@abelardodiaz69 Жыл бұрын
I played FF XI for over 10 years. Took me 5years to get my first fully upgraded relic weapon for Samurai and 2 more years to get my second relic for ranger. It was very time consuming. I love this video. Can’t wait to see more like this.
@j.dalzell5372
@j.dalzell5372 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the Evolution of Airships Video. Thanks guys :)
@atmosdwagon4656
@atmosdwagon4656 Ай бұрын
There are a few other weapons in Final Fantasy 6 worth mentioning as being "ultimate" weapons by your own criteria: Fixed Dice and Valiant Knife. Fixed Dice is unique to Setzer, and is found in Kefka's Tower. It has a unique damage code where the attacker throws 3 dice at an enemy, the numbers of which are then multiplied together and that result is then multiplied by the character's level. If the attacker rolls three of the same number, the damage factor of those numbers is tripled. Because the attack damage is coded as a unique effect, it bypasses a few regular Attack command steps, resulting in the weapon ignoring enemy defense and bypassing the 50% damage penalty from using X-Attack via the Offering (Master's Scroll) relic. (but NOT Berserk status; you still get the damage bonus) Valiant Knife is a dirk/knife weapon only available to Locke (sans Merit Award shenanigans) and is very similar to the Ultima Weapon in how it ignores enemy defense, ignores enemy evasion, and adds damage based on the wielder's current HP vs their max HP. However, there are two major differences. First, the HP damage formula is inverted, meaning it GROWS in strength the closer to death its wielder is rather than getting weaker. Second, unlike the Ultima Weapon, Valiant Knife retains its full normal statted Battle Power regardless of what the wielder's HP is (and still ignores defense on top of this) meaning there is no real drawback to using it. As a consequence, Valiant Knife is actually comparable to Ultima Weapon at most stages of the game, and will easily hit the damage cap when Locke is max level (especially if you Vigor-train him via Esper level up bonuses).
@malyman316
@malyman316 10 ай бұрын
What i love is lionheart from VIII Back when internet wasnt so advanced, and you had to find marerials on your own
@kingkamina4953
@kingkamina4953 4 жыл бұрын
Cloud’s Ultima Weapon will probably always be my favorite
@ryanbroome177
@ryanbroome177 4 жыл бұрын
Ive done 7 so many times and just got for the switch to play but dont know if to play it as meant or just use the buffs to just enjoy it without the grinding as i have done that in the past? 🤔🤔
@ryanbroome177
@ryanbroome177 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the ragnarok in 7 and so many more. What was tifas? I remember you get them in midgar slums 🤔
@kingkamina4953
@kingkamina4953 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Broome Tifa’s is called Premium Heart and you get it in the slums
@ryanbroome177
@ryanbroome177 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingkamina4953the memories back in those slums with the music. 👍Thanks
@spaghettiking7312
@spaghettiking7312 4 жыл бұрын
And thus the Brave Blade was forgotten.
@awesomehazimex7410
@awesomehazimex7410 3 жыл бұрын
AKA "the never escape once in the game to get the true power of the sword have fun lol"
@yuuji7158
@yuuji7158 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I ran through Final Fantasy XII before my older brother brought me an official guide, Phon Coast was a treasure trove... Util I found out about the 4 forbidden chests xD. Oh the horror back then, completely scrapped my playthrough and started over.
@Redwolfxx
@Redwolfxx 3 жыл бұрын
was wondering why i wasn't subed.. ty for vid :)
@t0r0x4l0t
@t0r0x4l0t 3 жыл бұрын
I had a minor mental breakdown trying to dodge 200 straight thunderbolts to unlock Lulu's Ultimate Weapon's full potential in FFX
@OneHitKillerAkame
@OneHitKillerAkame 4 жыл бұрын
I know this isn't really anything big But in the game World of Final Fantasy, the main antagonist brandelis uses the sealed weapons in his final battles. He uses mostly murasme and excalibur, if you notice the excalibur resembles the version from final fantasy 9. I guess its just some little details that i like to point out in some games, Square Enix is pretty good at putting stuff like that in their games ^^
@Lowlight23
@Lowlight23 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite ultimate weapon is Squall's Lionheart. I'm working on the Gunbreaker relic in FFXIV because I hope the last step this expansion will be Lionheart. 😁
@GIBunz
@GIBunz 4 жыл бұрын
Always remember the Dragon Buster and the items you need to make excaliber in ffiv, the admantian and rat's tail.
@ItsDonBro
@ItsDonBro 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimate weapons and you had the M4 from the most recent COD. THAT is solid work bro.
@syaojyn
@syaojyn 4 жыл бұрын
An evolution of damage output would be interesting
@seth7726
@seth7726 4 жыл бұрын
Should've mentioned that the Wyrmhero Blade is a direct reference to the Dragon Quest series since its sound effects for attacking and missing are akin to those in DQ.
@toonman5099
@toonman5099 2 ай бұрын
FF14: You also forgot to mention how 13's aspect of "the weapons have the same visual" was carried over into 14 to a degree, but mostly applied to general cosmetics, not only for the weapons, but also outfits where you could have the look of one set of gear and weapons, but have the stats of another.
@daletoland9946
@daletoland9946 4 жыл бұрын
ok ok ok! I subscribed. (That worked mate :) )
@turntapeover5749
@turntapeover5749 2 жыл бұрын
FYI the Lightbringer in the original version of FF6 was called Illumina.
@EduardoTorelly
@EduardoTorelly 2 жыл бұрын
would be interesting to have the kingdom hearts ultima weapons mentioned at least. There is one in almost every game in the series, there are different ways to get the trought the series and they can really be the best weapos overall or have other weapons that suprasstheir power one way or another.
@sacredbanana1683
@sacredbanana1683 4 жыл бұрын
You, good Sir, got a sub
@mrbrown6896
@mrbrown6896 3 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of a Book I read when I was young called The Book of Swords. Some of you may have read it. My favorite was a sword called Shieldbreaker. "I shatter Swords and splinter spears; None stands to Shieldbreaker. My point's the fount of orphans' tears My edge the widowmaker."
@alcole-holic8779
@alcole-holic8779 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds dope as hell
@obananagato
@obananagato 3 жыл бұрын
It made me remember how hard was getting the stronger weapon from final fantasy tactics
@ProsecutorValentine
@ProsecutorValentine 5 ай бұрын
I do admit i miss the whole ultimate weapon sidequest some games used to have and how it ties to a personal narative arc sometimes to a main character. It did get lost in time past the 2010s era.
@sonickhable
@sonickhable 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention the kh series. Sure it grew outside of final fantasy but it's usage of ultima weapon is much more prevalent in the series with it's upgrades being more apparent
@wrath2501
@wrath2501 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't talk about the ultimate dress spheres in FFX-2 or The guns from Dirge of Cerberus.
@kiraangle2823
@kiraangle2823 4 жыл бұрын
its been mentioned before but chicken and brave blades from 5 offer a lot of insight into ultimate weapon design, they are a sort of prototype of the Excalibur 2 in that you only truely get power for playing the game with intent and purpose, though its definately just a stat stick with a drawback arguably worse than leaving on the doom ring as cowardice permanently degrades it.
@AncestorEmpireGaming
@AncestorEmpireGaming 4 жыл бұрын
ultimate weapon in Goldeneye: Picking Oddjob in multiplayer
@Opomax
@Opomax 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Oddjob gets hit in the head far too much.
@AncestorEmpireGaming
@AncestorEmpireGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Opomax that hat provides much protection
@ultimatecalibur
@ultimatecalibur 4 жыл бұрын
Saying that FFXI and FFXIV have "Ultimate Weapons" is a bit disingenuous. A better term would be Artifact or Relic Weapons and FFXIV has always had weapons from the final tier of the Savage raid and purchased (Augmented) Tomestone weapons that are similarly powerful to the completed Relic weapon.
@anacreon212
@anacreon212 4 жыл бұрын
ff14 has 2 ultimate weapons, the relic/artifact weapons and the savage/ultimate fight weapons. the latter having the higher ilevel and the former having the better stats.
@SaraphDarklaw
@SaraphDarklaw 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot empys
@crazzluz1702
@crazzluz1702 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's fair to include the Vortex weapons as FFXV's Ultimate Weapons, because, while I think it's a great game now, it was clearly unfinished upon it's initial release. If games weren't patchable like back in the day, I assume FFXV: Royal Edition would have been the only version of FFXV we saw.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 4 жыл бұрын
I'd still question it, since those are (visually, at least) copies of some of the weapons dropped by _FFXIV's_ Garuda. That is, they're crossover weapons.
@zero0421
@zero0421 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought this was a video of the evolution of the Ultimate Weapon in FFVII? I'll take my unintentional view back
@Vayne_Solidor
@Vayne_Solidor 4 жыл бұрын
It was so enjoyable to grind for 12's ultimate weapons like Wyrmhero blade
@BYERE
@BYERE 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot to point out with Final Fantasy X is that many of the ultimate weapons, when powered up with their respective crests, allow Yuna's Aeons to also break the damage limit.
@Sammmmmmmm617
@Sammmmmmmm617 4 жыл бұрын
Do a video on all the final fantasy 11 ultimate weapons?
@NekoYuki
@NekoYuki 4 жыл бұрын
ffx-2 had an "ultimate weapon" if you count the dresspheres as weapons. You had the standard mascot dressphere which could be used to give your party the ability of 3 different move sets for each character along with the move sets of 2 others per character, but then you had the "special dresspheres" that removed the other two party members and made one character act as 3, and if they fell, their allies could rush back into battle, revive them, and you know how that song and dance goes.
@Jester_Jean
@Jester_Jean Жыл бұрын
I consider the special dresspheres more of a limit break than ultimate weapon
@ManEaterBrainBug
@ManEaterBrainBug 3 жыл бұрын
FF IX Zeus Mace (Vivis Ultimate) is crazy strong if you are familiar with the mechanics of the game. It grants Vivi Doomsday wich does 9999 dark dmg to all characters/monsters on screen, wich resulted in your party getting fully healed with the right accessiore equipped while the enemy got completely destroyed.
@user-ov6jg4ug9d
@user-ov6jg4ug9d 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@darkcharizard52
@darkcharizard52 10 ай бұрын
FF3 was an interesting entry for a variety of reasons, but I loved the DS remake’s approach of hiding some ultimate weapons behind bosses in Eureka. Even more interestingly, the ultimate Dragoon weapon, Gungnir, has to be stolen from an optional boss in an optional underwater dungeon only accessible late in the game. And you have to have a thief with a high enough job level (75 iirc) to actually steal it from that boss
@gabrielgauchez9435
@gabrielgauchez9435 3 жыл бұрын
in ff1 monk fist were stronger than any character weapon at lvl 50, ifu play the game that lets u grind to lvl 100 it becomes even stronger
@shaifs5072
@shaifs5072 3 жыл бұрын
IDK, I thought FF7's weapons were pretty ultimate. Cloud's Ultima Weapon can only be gotten from a boss, it has 4 linked materia slots, with the only other sword that has that has 1/3 the attack damage without counting Ultima Weapon's bonus. At full HP it does 4x the damage. I'd say it's pretty Ultima. Maybe FF7's ultimate weapons dont seem impressive because of how OP materia combos can make you.
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