The Complete Expedition Guide (ft. sailKite) | Path of Exile

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With Expedition fast becoming one of the strongest currency making strategies in 3.16 Scourge League (and with many folks skipping 3.15), I worked with sailKite to make the most comprehensive guide that we could. I am proud to present this deep dive into one of the most fun and profitable mechanics that's ever been added to Path of Exile.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
01:32 - Scarabs
04:18 - Watchstones and Mods
06:58 - Always Be Rolling (for quant)
07:49 - Strategies
08:47 - Expedition Encounters
09:20 - Explosive Placement
10:44 - Optimizing for Logbooks
11:44 - Mathematically Correct Placement
12:47 - Logbook Value
14:52 - Bosses
15:15 - Bless and Split
16:29 - Running Logbooks
18:37 - Atlas Passives
19:54 - Running an Encounter
25:06 - Running a Logbook
40:13 - Vendors
51:38 - Outro/Credits

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@hellfurian
@hellfurian 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most informative and easy to understand guides I've ever seen. Along with helpful images with the rolls and time stamps for anything you may want to revisit. Even with the immense amount of play time I have in this game, I got a lot out of this 10/10
@xXDEUC35Xx
@xXDEUC35Xx 10 ай бұрын
I wish I would have seen this video before. I always stayed away from Expedition because it just looked so daunting. Without a guide, I still think it is. Many thanks! I'd already wanted to check out Expedition this league, now you've pushed me into definitely checking it out and with a bit of a head start. Now I don't have to experiment for weeks before understanding it lol
@abrahamblackmore3115
@abrahamblackmore3115 2 жыл бұрын
Sub. You know I love you man, but this is the third league straight that you've made a comprehensive guide on my current money making strat. I'm starting to think you're out to get me :P
@Lolcohol
@Lolcohol 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent video! I learned some really cool stuff and look forward to getting into some more Expedition this league :) Amazing work, sailKite!
@atugak
@atugak 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of help that it packs is massive. Love your all-in-depth type contents. Much love
@theguru3930
@theguru3930 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for that and good morning from Europe!
@stonethrow
@stonethrow 2 жыл бұрын
this has to be the most chill poe tutorial video ive ever seen.
@minnesotasteve9382
@minnesotasteve9382 Жыл бұрын
LOL I thought this would be a good intro guide but came to realize I need to go to an intro guide and then come back to this. I don't even know what a logbook is.
@greex1024
@greex1024 2 жыл бұрын
You biting Excession (the book that got me into the Culture) always catches me off guard x)
@coldfirelightpoe6803
@coldfirelightpoe6803 2 жыл бұрын
Great guide! Thanks guys
@boris2581
@boris2581 2 жыл бұрын
Your betrayal guide was the best I have ever seen (and thanks again for that, it helped me like crazy) and this one is on the same level. Very good job, I discovered a lot of things I didn't know. Thanks to both of you
@christophermatthew5200
@christophermatthew5200 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! Thx for the guide
@vegangainzhue4548
@vegangainzhue4548 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you guys
@d1jn
@d1jn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man great guide!
@joaogomes2043
@joaogomes2043 2 жыл бұрын
amazing tutorial! ty you guys!
@mariuszel759
@mariuszel759 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a video. You provide a top notch content mate! I still remember you toxic rain explanation which was 10/10 as well.
@TehSiets
@TehSiets 2 жыл бұрын
As new player who complained in the comments in the original video about this currency making method, I greatly appreciate this follow-up and deep dive. Thank you for putting this together for us non-galaxy brains Sub and sailKite!
@anathema1828
@anathema1828 2 жыл бұрын
Priceless information- keep up the great work!
@dennisschonfeld9042
@dennisschonfeld9042 2 жыл бұрын
This helped me a lot!
@wiramonol5266
@wiramonol5266 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed after I skipped Expedition. Thanks!
@user-xo8ui1nj9o
@user-xo8ui1nj9o 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for quality of the content! Also still playing your build already for two weeks:) Almost done my build but 2+3 gems staff is really hard to do
@fletch45longcolt
@fletch45longcolt 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't play expedition at all, so this was really helpful. Going to get into it more now that I have a good understanding. Thanks!
@DiHickman
@DiHickman 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video! Thanks, learned a lot!
@docgerbil1956
@docgerbil1956 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both very much for this info! My friend and I invested about 2 ex into this strat and made our money back in about a 3 hour session with around 1 ex profit for a pretty casual player I'm very happy with this outcome looking forward to some juicier sessions! Much love sub and sail!
@Stark4Machines
@Stark4Machines 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video
@Gummy2741
@Gummy2741 2 жыл бұрын
Finally now I can understand this, I only play STD so when this became core I had no idea about it lol 😆
@sgt391
@sgt391 2 жыл бұрын
Spending the night on poe -> go for a walk to take a break... "I guess it's time to learn about expedition!"
@neerajvk9480
@neerajvk9480 2 жыл бұрын
this is top tier info...gg !:)
@MrDodgeNDive
@MrDodgeNDive 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised that immune to curses isn't highlighted yellow, makes sense for any "immune to x" to be noted
@bonez994
@bonez994 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that fucked me over early in league as a hexblast ignite character. Wish I had the foresight to read it all lol
@lutzrambo8191
@lutzrambo8191 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks again for the great guide. I just explored heists for the first time ever and am heavy invested in it - so i stay with that for a while to farm currency. They are so much fun atm for me. But when i get bored i will give Expeditions a chance and will use this video as reference. Remember folks: doesnt matter how much currency you farm the goal is to have fun :)
@swampalite8425
@swampalite8425 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I want to be mad that expedition probably isn't going to be as profitable after this video, this is a very well made video with tons of information. GJ
@trackts
@trackts 2 жыл бұрын
How can it be? It is not like Legion or Breach that depend on splinter and stone prices. The only thing that can rise are scarabs and refresh currency prices. Very unlikely to turn it unprofitable.
@theguru3930
@theguru3930 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it actually matters as long as you don't sell/buy the reroll currency and use what you find yourself. Rusted scarabs going from 8 -> 12c each doesn't make that much of a difference in my experience (you only need more currency upfront, that's all).
@DZmassi
@DZmassi 2 жыл бұрын
oh my that explains why some of my logbooks were instant selling and ppl offering 100c instead of the usual 40c ! even if I did a lot of expedition encounters last league, I was always selling them and never noticed the bosses 😅 Thank you for the very detailed guide much appreciated ☺️
@buoiii5737
@buoiii5737 2 жыл бұрын
u deserve more likes and subs for that quality content that u bring
@Failzz8
@Failzz8 2 жыл бұрын
Explosive watchstone rolls are criminally underrated. Yes you can pretty much clear out the entire expedition area with just the maven passives, but the insane range from watchstones allows you to almost entirely ignore any placement restrictions and set up the PERFECT chain in every map, no compromises. Logbook remnant all the way at the bottom and all the way at the top of the expedition site? No problem, hit both with your first 2 explosions. Need a bit of extra distance so you're not hitting that fire immunity remnant on your ignite build, but still want to get the runic monsters behind it? Not a problem etc...
@metachigx
@metachigx 2 жыл бұрын
sailKSmug nice job guys
@schitzoflink8612
@schitzoflink8612 Жыл бұрын
Is the previous video mentioned the one on Betrayal or a random video not in this playlist?
@Chris-rt8kc
@Chris-rt8kc 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Tutorial. I´m currently really low on lesser sun artifacts. So there is only the chance to get them by running knight´s of the sun Logbook or by randomly encouter Dannig in maps and run the expedition?
@sailkite7988
@sailkite7988 2 жыл бұрын
Either is fine: Artifacts for each Vendor can drop in their respective Faction's Logbooks or in Map Expeditions that are found with that Vendor. Normally you'd also be able to trade for Artifacts from Dannig, but Dannig is himself and thus we have to find them!
@Notsogoodguitarguy
@Notsogoodguitarguy 2 жыл бұрын
PSA for people watching later: Astragalis are through the moon! They're almost as expensive as Burial Medallions and Exotic Coinage!
@DonaldSackderechte
@DonaldSackderechte Жыл бұрын
and now astragalis are death
@EkpyroticBounceHouse-DunderDan
@EkpyroticBounceHouse-DunderDan 10 ай бұрын
@@DonaldSackderechtelmao .5c as of rn
@DonaldSackderechte
@DonaldSackderechte 10 ай бұрын
@@EkpyroticBounceHouse-DunderDan lul i dont play poe anymore, dont know what im talkin about lmao
@DonaldSackderechte
@DonaldSackderechte 10 ай бұрын
Who is astragalis and why she died?
@alexmcd378
@alexmcd378 6 ай бұрын
@@DonaldSackderechtedude, Astragalis is the name of the band, not the singer. She didn't die, they just got canceled 😅
@scrangos
@scrangos 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a cheatsheet available for a tier list of regions, remnant suffixes and logbook implicits?
@louiskusters9452
@louiskusters9452 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! One question/remark: I think the actual artifact chests within the logbooks are moreimportant to hit than the runic monsters. You did this in the video during the logbook run, but didn't really emphasize it (unless I didn't hear it). I believe the chests drop way more artifacts than the actual runic monsters. Ideally you hit both the artifact chests as well as the runic monsters where possible of course so you get some refresh currencies.
@marek7987
@marek7987 9 ай бұрын
Probably goes without saying but be mindful what remnants you take when you have boss in your logbook. Some remnants such as Hit cannot be evaded, impale, always crit and increased attack speed can be extremely difficult. It's better to leave logbook with fewer reroll currency than with none at all. Otherwise great guide!:)
@kevinduong8534
@kevinduong8534 2 жыл бұрын
is there a list of what remnants are the best to get to maximize profit for logbooks? i still tend to struggle to get decent amount of reroll currencies like getting less than 5
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
It varies greatly based on league and time of league. So you'll want to check on poe ninja and then optimize based on that.
@joshuahensley9395
@joshuahensley9395 2 жыл бұрын
I was trying my best to pay attention and listen for it, how are artifacts split with multiple people in the map? Can me and a friend run them together and double dip or are we going to both get about half of what we would have?
@oldpro8783
@oldpro8783 2 жыл бұрын
extra players in a party add more quant but for mapping and books it isn't like double the quant.. i think. I run with a buddy and it feels like I get just a little bit less than I would solo but not too terribly and overall more if you count what we both got. I'm making up numbers here but if I get 100 of something in a book solo then I'll get like 75 of in that same book with my buddy, but he also gets 60-75. Maybe if we had 6 people then it would be more than if we ran solo but I just run with 1 friend most of the time for the last couple leagues. We run a lot of expedition and pass reroll currency back n fourth and don't really care if we are getting slightly less per person as we both get to make items with rog and buy bad belts from gwennen. I will add though that running beast farming is really nice with a friend b/c you each get the beast that you find, so we farm up fenumal arachnids for book splitting and it just doubles the amount of arachnids we find. The beast increase makes up a good amnt of the value lost if not more. Good luck bud. have fun!
@sebastianholsclaw
@sebastianholsclaw 2 жыл бұрын
Re rarity on runic monsters. I’m relatively certain it influences reroll drops.
@Ergdoelloos
@Ergdoelloos 2 жыл бұрын
So i've been running expedition for a little bit now. But is there any consensus to if the tier of a map has any impact on the amount of rewards you get from running an expedition(scarab) ?
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
At the very least I'd strongly encourage to do at least red maps. You'll usually see a bit more monster density and be able to drop at least map specific currency at a better rate. Between T12 and T16, however, I wouldn't be surprised if the results are about the same.
@rotony1
@rotony1 10 ай бұрын
A random question maybe but does the quantity altars help with the amount of currency we get from runic monsters or chests or both? Is any point on killing all the map and taking all the altars and then do the expedition?
@nicholaswilks580
@nicholaswilks580 10 ай бұрын
yes it definitely helps, as far as I know
@ramonvdelst
@ramonvdelst 2 жыл бұрын
Do you run the logbooks after splitting or run 1 and sell 1? I didnt understand from the video
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
I run both but you can also sell both or whatever you prefer :)
@LordRJoker
@LordRJoker 2 жыл бұрын
48:46 - yep, that ancient orb 100% worth that amount of lessers (and you don't pay 490, since you will be huggling for lesser price). The thing is about Tujen - since you can't buy/sell all currencies now, you need to spend all you currency equally and get as much value per single coin as possible (because coins are money). In ideal situation you should be left with 0 of all currencies after all the huggling. Made an easy 100ex+ in first week with tujen, rocking with hh now.
@timmers8135
@timmers8135 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content but I must say after my experience with Expedition in 3.17 so far I will stay clear for a while. Even with Atlas specced barely any logbooks and running the logbooks basically no currency other than the reroll stuff. The rng was not good this league and I loved the mechanic back then :D
@NafenX
@NafenX 2 жыл бұрын
Sail!
@omniges
@omniges Жыл бұрын
I have that sunburst guitar heheh
@belldandyg
@belldandyg 9 ай бұрын
new player here, I'm not sure if this was explained but does the "route of explotion matter" like if a node says 40% more pack, will that only affect alle the exploding nodes after, or does it affect all previous unexploded nodes as well?
@subtractem
@subtractem 9 ай бұрын
Only the nodes after
@belldandyg
@belldandyg 9 ай бұрын
thank you @@subtractem
@Eliotthib
@Eliotthib 10 ай бұрын
Pack size is analogues to more quant, not increased right?
@SpiritMEOW
@SpiritMEOW 2 жыл бұрын
Which maps would you recommend for the best layout?
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
I really like open linear ones. Bog, mud geyser, and racecourse are great right now.
@louiskusters9452
@louiskusters9452 2 жыл бұрын
would like to know the same!
@HvnkRockCity
@HvnkRockCity 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a nice looking les paul on the back. ❤
@10pMiami
@10pMiami 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Runic Monsters are Duplicated removed from the game or did I hallucinate that patch note?
@sailkite7988
@sailkite7988 2 жыл бұрын
It was made much more rare, but not completely removed!
@ciso344
@ciso344 Жыл бұрын
What do we run if we don't have the 'Bluffs'?
@oldpro8783
@oldpro8783 2 жыл бұрын
Rog is the truth.. Just throwing it out there. If you learn to rog you will bath in exalts. It's kinda crazy how much money that dude makes for me, and his dialogue is pretty nutty.. Don't drink da watah! I'm pretty sure he lost a ton of venomous spiders also..
@LikeACrouton
@LikeACrouton 2 жыл бұрын
Rip scarab prices 🤭
@Ditronus.
@Ditronus. 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I find myself, many expedition events in, having no grand suns and therefore no grand black scythes. Even after running log books. Not sure how to get them, but I cant get anything of value with the npcs it seems.
@heysatan8
@heysatan8 2 жыл бұрын
After 20 maps I had 0 logbooks, even after a double logbook relic encounter. Then while doing nemesis currency outside the expedition region, I got THREE logbooks in one encounter with 0 logbook relics. RNG is funny....
@KingKatura
@KingKatura Жыл бұрын
Since they made artifacts untradeable, shouldn't they have increased the amount that drops? I got most of the atlas nodes for expedition but i rarely get much more than 20 artifacts at a time well at least from chests. Which during campaign was roughly the same amount. At least for the normal excavation outside logbooks, Honestly after hours & hours of game time i haven't seen anything valuable or even profitable from even tugen, & if they're was i rarely had enough artifacts to even buy it in the first place. Most of them i have just started saving. Along with all my logbooks of course.
@SilentHumanX
@SilentHumanX 2 жыл бұрын
good morning
@Niksplaylist1
@Niksplaylist1 10 ай бұрын
So I’m watching this a year later, has anything majorly changed? About to try my first expedition play through next league
@Niksplaylist1
@Niksplaylist1 10 ай бұрын
Also what is a remnant?
@StrafeHunter
@StrafeHunter 10 ай бұрын
The core mechanics are basically the same but we now have the atlas tree which changes how it plays in maps. Also logbooks generally aren’t as valuable outside of the top tier. A remnant is one of the posts with the text modifiers on them.
@db7610
@db7610 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed hardly any expedition encounters this league, I think I have seen about 10 total and I am level 80 and do alot of atlas and only seen Clarissa once, x1 blight, seems kinda scarce so got no currency for expedition. Anyone else the same? Any tips? Thank you
@NafenX
@NafenX 2 жыл бұрын
Buy the scarabs :P
@joshuahensley9395
@joshuahensley9395 2 жыл бұрын
Gwen threw me a shaves and a coil this league after basically nothing last league
@rtyrty2168
@rtyrty2168 2 жыл бұрын
so what is better?an open map or a a more cluttered one?
@sailkite7988
@sailkite7988 2 жыл бұрын
Open and cramped layouts are both workable. The thing that gets tricky is when you're in a cramped layout that has multiple branches that split away from each other: if you get unlucky, the markers will be spread awkwardly and will require extra explosives to travel between.
@rtyrty2168
@rtyrty2168 2 жыл бұрын
@@sailkite7988 thank you very much and for the entire video aswell
@ciupanezubogdanel
@ciupanezubogdanel Жыл бұрын
44:07 There's no link to the website...
@mattb6646
@mattb6646 9 ай бұрын
What are the watchstones? Sextants?
@hbkrip12
@hbkrip12 8 ай бұрын
watchstones were removed (replaced with voidstones)
@Johannes2730
@Johannes2730 2 жыл бұрын
could u link your loot filter pls
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Subtractem/item-filters
@boyscodon909
@boyscodon909 2 жыл бұрын
how to make normal map have more quantity ? chisel + alchemy + vaal and frament ? ppl always talk abou quantity but i still don't know the way to make it go up this is my 1st season so very appreciated if someone can show me the way
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
You got it! Also use sextants and master missions. Thats mostly all that's to it.
@boyscodon909
@boyscodon909 2 жыл бұрын
any advise on what option for sextants to apply ? thx in advance
@luismartins8598
@luismartins8598 2 жыл бұрын
What about budget builds that dont get wrecked by Vorana? :)
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
Minions, traps, mines, totems and toxic rain/similar. As with league starters these are always the answer for budget X builds.
@luismartins8598
@luismartins8598 2 жыл бұрын
@@subtractem minions it is!
@Emberrs
@Emberrs 10 ай бұрын
Marking the explosives is so hard with a controller
@Dizzinator2114
@Dizzinator2114 Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video 3 times and I realize expeditions just not for me 😂 I give up I’ll just have to figure out something more fitting for me in terms of getting currency because I will forever skip this mechanic from this day forward.
@BartoszBielecki
@BartoszBielecki 2 жыл бұрын
It will be profitable, because zone people don't play trade league ^_^.
@joshuahensley9395
@joshuahensley9395 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to know how artifacts are split when you are running in a party, please and thank you to anyone that knows
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
No idea after the change! Pretty sure it was split before so my assumption is that it is still split. Can be very easy to test with a friend :)
@joshuahensley9395
@joshuahensley9395 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, not a big enough player to afford that kind of thing thou
@CJEndowed001
@CJEndowed001 2 жыл бұрын
Better give a textual explanation with pictures and drawings
@balanarsro000
@balanarsro000 2 жыл бұрын
expedition seems to have been such a great league, too bad it came in the worst patch ever as far as I can remember, unfortunately I skipped it
@fenrir7129
@fenrir7129 2 ай бұрын
Expedition would've been a great mechanic but for me this explosives spoil everything, if only you can dig something ... 😭
@brandonwright7260
@brandonwright7260 10 ай бұрын
is this still a good guide?
@subtractem
@subtractem 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@Dennson1
@Dennson1 2 жыл бұрын
12:19 please remove the %
@padronic
@padronic 2 жыл бұрын
15c per burial medallion? bra they are 3c ^^
@subtractem
@subtractem 2 жыл бұрын
Which means they are underpriced. To me the expected value of them is 15c is what I mean.
@trackts
@trackts 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of running 30 logbooks. It... takes a while. Got 4 T1 archealogist watchstone, since refresh currency is cheap only thing that keeps me from get more money is artifact availability. Also, fuck Gwenen.
@Jaypact1
@Jaypact1 11 ай бұрын
You don't even explain the basic mechanics of the content and just go straight into how to get maximum efficiency regarding things someone new to this wouldn't know about. This is an advanced guide not a complete guide.
@subtractem
@subtractem 11 ай бұрын
What am I missing here?
@NPC-fg6up
@NPC-fg6up Жыл бұрын
How can i buy the watchstone?
@leonsibum7144
@leonsibum7144 Жыл бұрын
They are no longer in the game.
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