The Complete History of the Cummerbund

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Antique Menswear

Antique Menswear

Күн бұрын

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@gentlemansgazette
@gentlemansgazette 4 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@drnpictures2155
@drnpictures2155 4 жыл бұрын
Hello
@vimhome8022
@vimhome8022 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sven/Preston/Kyle! I'm a huge fan!
@theAestheticOf
@theAestheticOf 3 жыл бұрын
Origin of Cummerband related to Oldest martial arts Kalari payatu, in kalari payatu the warrior used a 14 feet silken cloth wrapped arond their waist it's called 'Kacha' in local language later the mugals and persians adopted it.
@Boselaphus
@Boselaphus 3 жыл бұрын
@@theAestheticOf kamar means the back and band means a tie. Si i dont get it why you are saying this?
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 4 жыл бұрын
Hello guys, sorry that the video was briefly removed and re-uploaded, one of the titles was incorrect!
@brooke3312
@brooke3312 4 жыл бұрын
I love Victorian women’s fashion but since watching you’re videos you make men’s fashion less boring and more interesting now that I’m learning that they were much more than suits changing a bit through the years. I see that it is much more complicated than that. Keep up the good work!
@genericmannequin
@genericmannequin 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way. I love womens historical fashion but I didn't really bother looking into mens fashion so much, but learning all of the nuances of it makes it far more interesting.
@ruchikadayal9469
@ruchikadayal9469 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video completely, but the first thing that went through my mind seeing 'Cummerbund' was it's resemblance to Kamar-band in my native tongue (hindustani/hindi-urdu/hindi- whatever you wanna call it). Kamar=waist Band=close so like, closed around the waist. kamarband (कमरबंद) is a type of jewellery. edit: found it in the vid. 'round 6 min mark.
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, if you go to 03:28 we look at the etymology!
@theAestheticOf
@theAestheticOf 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong history, Origin of Cummerband related to Oldest martial arts Kalari payatu, in kalari payatu the warrior used a 14 feet silken cloth wrapped arond their waist it's called 'Kacha' in local language later the mugals and persians adopted it.
@andressorin1205
@andressorin1205 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a Persian word alright, that entered Hindustani, like so many other words. Let’s not forget that Persian was the language spoken in the Mughal Court. “Band” is a Indo-European word whose English cognate is… band!
@okonamaroko9419
@okonamaroko9419 4 жыл бұрын
You're such a brilliant and well-spoken storyteller. It's pleasure listening to you.
@bill99208
@bill99208 Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody who’s daring enough to do a history video on the cummerbund! I find that I like wearing cummerbunds better than a waistcoat ( possibly because I don’t wear a pocket watch). I like the illusion that it brings out that you appear taller wearing one, I like that it makes you look more put together and that you don’t have any breaks in your line from top to bottom. I also like how braces look when worn with cummerbunds, especially if the cummerbund is worn slightly tighter. I’m also not afraid to wear a tuxedo during the daytime as it looks incredible and when worn with the cummerbund and bow tie, looks like what a good suit should look like: sharp and elegant. The cummerbund looks so much better than a waistcoat and is cooler as well. So, the Brits had the right idea in bringing the cummerbund into wider use and we’ve all been able to use it to good advantage with our formal wear. Now if only we could get back into dressing up on a daily basis and lose the casualness of what we have become, we just might become a properly dressed country again. (I kind of doubt it will happen since too many men think wearing a suit is a hassle and that it’s uncomfortable to wear).
@nateranger783
@nateranger783 4 жыл бұрын
I was just becoming concerned that you may have stopped uploading, but then this video saved me from those concerns. A very interesting video and I hope to see more in the future, might you know anything of Dressing gowns and Smoking jackets?
@jameshendo128
@jameshendo128 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE! 1: A whole full-on sash was still worn in the 90's?! 2: The fact that it's a fake trendy waistcoat is such a novelty I want one! I'm a living historian at a country estate portraying the 1880's in Australia (and a fan boy of 1895), it gets HOT here and I think these two are the best thing I've found out this year such a novelty! I'm going to wear these!
@timeminecraft6019
@timeminecraft6019 7 ай бұрын
Same, East side of the country and I dabble in a mixture of late 1800-1900s.
@kanashiiookami6537
@kanashiiookami6537 4 жыл бұрын
Just to note, if you do ever plan on making video on waistcoats I'd love to see it. I think those are possibly the best looking part of men's attire and finish a suit beautifully. (Or look good without the jacket. It just seems more polished somehow to see a man wearing a waistcoat over his shirt and trousers rather than just the shirt and trousers. Tie optional, in my opinion.)
@khadijaaghazade7795
@khadijaaghazade7795 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate and admire your hard work❤ your style is fantastic and I am so happy to have found someone who talks about the wonderful male side of fashion history, especially with such enthusiasm!😊 keep making great videos!
@frager653
@frager653 4 жыл бұрын
I recently learned about the cummervests from a 50s menswear tailoring book i bought. I was quite fascinated by them as i've never seen such a thing. Sadly they were just briefly mentioned and acknowledged. I wanted to research them on my own but your amazing video surprused me with enough satisfying info! Thanks for this! :)
@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410
@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 3 ай бұрын
honestly, i live in the hot and humid US state of Georgia and i love the idea of these, especially with linen suiting material perhaps
@susangreen1966
@susangreen1966 6 күн бұрын
Wonderfully informative, thanks for explaining and illustrating so well, but please cut out the flashing lights at change of slides, it is triggering for epilepsy.
@weirdwestcountry8646
@weirdwestcountry8646 4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent video! I feel educated and entertained 😁 I've followed you on Instagram for ages but never indulged in your videos. Brilliant, would love to see more please!
@megozfireservices3989
@megozfireservices3989 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Aaron, great video. Just had a look in my catalogs, I found an example like your hounds-tooth shape in a 1901 Canadian catalog
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for letting me know! It would be fantastic to see! My Instagram is @kasasenchou, so feel free to pop me a message if you fancy it!
@902IvanIvanIvan
@902IvanIvanIvan 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I learnt much.
@LixiaWinter
@LixiaWinter 4 жыл бұрын
It's so good that we can take trrnds that were unpopular, gaudy or inappropriate at the time and just enjoy them now
@SherbetLollipop
@SherbetLollipop 4 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting! I've watched a bunch of your videos now (!) while doing some sewing :D I would love to hear more about waistcoats. Or anything really!
@eeloftheworld
@eeloftheworld 4 жыл бұрын
Look at this absolute mad man spitting even more facts
@enidan_
@enidan_ 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another awesome video! Very interesting topic, I learn so many new things about men's fashion here. And I really like your humour :)
@pentecostalismo
@pentecostalismo 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are quality, on your first few videos!
@genericmannequin
@genericmannequin 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome! I learn something new every time. Would you consider talking about shirt collars? I've seen them in several different shapes and materials but I'm curious to know the significance of the various different types.
@melissaduncan9988
@melissaduncan9988 4 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly, enjoyed that! Thank you so much!
@akhirajordao3399
@akhirajordao3399 4 жыл бұрын
Today I'm very sad and frustrated because of some work, and this video cheered me up. Thank you
@Air0Sparks
@Air0Sparks 3 жыл бұрын
Love that fabric back drop!!!
@kli7867
@kli7867 4 жыл бұрын
Those videos are high quality and lots of details. Thanks
@theministryforhistory
@theministryforhistory 4 жыл бұрын
Another exceptional video, sir!
@lynnhobby32321
@lynnhobby32321 4 жыл бұрын
I had flashbacks of my wedding in 1987 and the hideous bright colors I used. Those matching cummerbunds... those poor groomsmen... 🤦‍♀️🤣😂🤣.
@kanashiiookami6537
@kanashiiookami6537 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all this info. I always wondered why guys wore those because it seemed like it had no purpose. But knowing this? It makes more sense. I always was under the impression that men's clothing was made for function and not just fashion. Ties, I was told when I was a kid, either were to "hide the shirt buttons, or any gaps made by them" and bowties were to keep the collar closed and modest. Codswallop I know now. But it sounded good at the time. Cummerbunds? Those made no sense. (Also thought it was said and written "cumberbun" which explains why I never found owt about it.😅)
@wrong_thyme_old
@wrong_thyme_old 4 жыл бұрын
no function? what about their crumb-catching, ticket-holding power!? 😱
@bionodroid547
@bionodroid547 5 ай бұрын
You’ve inspired me to make some day wear cummerbunds now. Easy way to use up the rest of the fabric from the 0.3 yards left over when I make a pair of trousers and matching waistcoat.
@gtickno2946
@gtickno2946 4 жыл бұрын
Between this and the fake shirt video I'm amused by the lengths people would go to in order to maintain the correct look while trying to keep cool. Gotta keep up that appearance
@marshallemmet1366
@marshallemmet1366 3 жыл бұрын
Dress smart, not down!
@eliegbert8121
@eliegbert8121 2 жыл бұрын
Better than watching people wear next to nothing walk around on the street
@Nyx773
@Nyx773 7 ай бұрын
@@eliegbert8121 or wearing their pajamas
@bobgrob4
@bobgrob4 8 күн бұрын
its a crumb catcher. Vents need to be worn opening upward to catch food crumbs
@Boselaphus
@Boselaphus 3 жыл бұрын
Correction: Mughals were Turkic in origin, used Persian as court language and also in many Indian languages Kamar and band means the same.
@matthewmillar3804
@matthewmillar3804 7 күн бұрын
We're done of these simply a length of fabric? How was that tied to prevent falling down, or the knot being too bulky?
@MildlyRabid
@MildlyRabid 4 жыл бұрын
So cool to see @berolinensis on a KZbin video!
@ChelleLlewes
@ChelleLlewes 3 күн бұрын
Wow -- first time watching your channel, and I am smitten! I have friends who wear Edwardian garb for living history exhibitions as well as just for fun and frolicking, and they always look just exquisite! And they, too, are gonna love your channel! Note to self: It's cummerbund, not cumberbund. For more than seventy years, I have been saying and spelling it *wrong?*
@LordRivers
@LordRivers 4 жыл бұрын
His Lordship is intrigued! I shall inquire at my tailor about having some made for Continental jaunts.
@caragarcia2307
@caragarcia2307 4 күн бұрын
I feel some of the mock vest cummerbunds were probably used as belts on women's dresses, especially the menswear styles. It just looks like something women would use to dress up a plain sack dress or skirt. They probably would have altered them to flatter better.
@machoprotegido5607
@machoprotegido5607 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you have a video on old necktie styles? Like the one you are wearing at the end?
@TheDmulcahy
@TheDmulcahy 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking video! I have learned so much
@mtosta2861
@mtosta2861 4 жыл бұрын
Capital! Great research. Also, we’ve come full circle, as many militaries use a “battle belt” as part of a combat uniform- a thick (sometimes with Kevlar inserts) belt that covers part of the hips and waist to protect the area below a bullet proof vest, as well as to hold a gun or other gear pouches... Will you consider making these? (As well as other items of interest) ...Perhaps opening an Etsy shop?
@alanjameson8664
@alanjameson8664 18 сағат бұрын
It seems to me that a modern version of the Cummerbund could be fastened with Velcro-- easier to put on, adjust, and remove. An older-looking one apparently of multiple layers with a fancy knife handle protruding from the folds appeals, but might attract unwelcome attention from the minions of the law and others. A notebook and large fountain pen would be safer and at the same time a social statement.
@hiteshahir2671
@hiteshahir2671 3 жыл бұрын
Cummer bandh is an indian (hindi) word. It is totally indian which british incorporated in their dressing style.
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 3 жыл бұрын
We demonstrate the etymology of the word and the origin of the garment dates back to ancient Persia.
@DanielRiera
@DanielRiera Жыл бұрын
Hi I'm interested in the sash version. Do you know the dimensions and how they were tied? Or any modern sources? Thank you.
@jhnshep
@jhnshep 5 күн бұрын
I don't know why I ended up here but after 4 years I'd like to add, while in the French foreign Legion we wore a blue cummerbund for ceremonial dress that apparently started because the layer of wool would keep the temperature of the intestines up reducing the risk of food poisoning from spoilt rations in the desert. Whether it works or not, I don't know. However, it does keep you warm and somewhere to hide your lighter, as your cigarettes were usually under your Kepi.
@justsomebloke621
@justsomebloke621 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of some Polynesian waist bands. In the Kingdom of Tonga the men wear what is called ta'ovala. When ancient Polynesian sailors arrived to Tonga their clothes were seen as unacceptable to wear in front of the king as the voyage has worn them out. These sailors cut up up their expensive sails and wrapped themselves in it, a sacrifice the King of Tonga was touched by. He ordered that the ta'ovala be the uniform of his court. Though Queen Salote III ordered that the ta'ovala should be worn by all and this traditional waistband is common now, even worn with suits and dresses to this day. Where as in my Samoan culture we have a waistband worn in the similar way called a valatau or vala and the other a 'ie toga. Worn by the chiefs, their single oldest son or daughter during celebrations and cultural ceremonies. Some older photos of 1920s, 30s Samoa and Tonga you can see the vala and ta'ovala worm with vintage suits and rathet than trousers, the dress male skirt known as a ie faitaga in Samoa, sulu in Fiji and tupenu in Samoa are normally with suits jackets and the traditional waistband. A year after Elizabeth's coronation, she visits Queen Salote Tupou III in the Kingdom of Tonga. Salote and her son Prince Tau'faahau greet the English queen wearing the ta'ovala over their outfits. Though being Polynesian myself and living in Utah, I like to dress according the 1920s in Utah. As a large Polynesian community also lives here in Utah, I find I wear the waistband and traditional male skirt of my culture with the jacket and collarless shirt as seen in old photos. Anyways, this was very interesting.
@hilarychandler3621
@hilarychandler3621 7 күн бұрын
Vincent Briggs - is a KZbinr you should know. Mostly makes 18th century peices but I think he might find this interesting.
@samuelmatheis
@samuelmatheis 3 жыл бұрын
2:30 hahahaha the graph lines! after kamarband hahaha
@TheoTheTimeTravelingMagician
@TheoTheTimeTravelingMagician 9 ай бұрын
0:26 *Vsauce music starts*
@TheN3tT3chMan
@TheN3tT3chMan 4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed I didn’t get to see the karate chop “done” ending.
@andressorin1205
@andressorin1205 3 жыл бұрын
“Sepah” is Persian for “army”, so ”sepahi” means “soldier”. That word gave “spahi” in French through Arabic, or “sepoy” in English and “cipayo” in Spanish.
@ghostwarrior1289
@ghostwarrior1289 4 жыл бұрын
so..the cummerbund is the Victorian fannypack
@laybabenedict
@laybabenedict 3 жыл бұрын
By the way kamar band is a Urdu word too, lovely video 😊
@mk30b25
@mk30b25 2 жыл бұрын
As someone from a hot country that cannot wear 3 piece suit, this is a very amusing video.
@aer0089
@aer0089 3 жыл бұрын
The Mughals weren’t exactly Persian in origin; more accurately, they started as Persianate Turco-Mongols.
@just_a_hampa
@just_a_hampa Ай бұрын
Honestly surprised sashes hadn’t much to do with this fashion.
@okonamaroko9419
@okonamaroko9419 4 жыл бұрын
Btw is Olga Polish by any chance?
@MildlyRabid
@MildlyRabid 4 жыл бұрын
She’s Russian.
@okonamaroko9419
@okonamaroko9419 4 жыл бұрын
@@MildlyRabid I was close. Thanks!
@leonstevens1382
@leonstevens1382 3 жыл бұрын
Most insightful!
@pentecostalismo
@pentecostalismo 4 жыл бұрын
Why is your Instagram banned?!
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 4 жыл бұрын
It's not :) At least, it shouldn't be.
@pentecostalismo
@pentecostalismo 4 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueMenswear Why can't I access it?
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 4 жыл бұрын
@@pentecostalismo I'm really unsure why you wouldn't be able to? What's your handle?
@pentecostalismo
@pentecostalismo 4 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueMenswear it says its broken, and I don't follow it anymore but I don't use Instagram much anymore
@KarolaTea
@KarolaTea 3 жыл бұрын
interesting video, thanks! :D
@nyanlinhtet3016
@nyanlinhtet3016 3 жыл бұрын
Pyjamas also derived from an indian word,too.
@quinnfischer9624
@quinnfischer9624 3 жыл бұрын
your my Fashion role model lol
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 3 жыл бұрын
You're too kind! ;-;
@jakecavendish3470
@jakecavendish3470 Күн бұрын
Tbh that is precisely what I _did_ think it was so I watched this for no real reason. Still a good video though
@blakemcnamara9105
@blakemcnamara9105 3 жыл бұрын
I only like them for black tie.
@KelikakuCoutin
@KelikakuCoutin 4 күн бұрын
Subscribed. Great job. Thanks for the content. Keep up the good work. בס'ד
@caragarcia2307
@caragarcia2307 4 күн бұрын
I always thought women were supposed to be the judgemental ones when it comes to bizarre fashion. I can't imagine carring if a man wore a colorfully patterned sash with broaches. I suppose maybe not to a wedding or funeral depending on the family. Sometimes the bride and groom can be really casual so best to keep it plain unless it's known if the bride and groom are going to have formal gown and suit or tux.
@sherilumley5498
@sherilumley5498 5 күн бұрын
For my high school prom in 1988, every male wore a cummerbund.
@nelliebly6616
@nelliebly6616 10 ай бұрын
😊
@charlesf9050
@charlesf9050 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah bro drip or drown
@he-man_
@he-man_ 3 жыл бұрын
We call belts Kamarband in Persian
@hazeluzzell
@hazeluzzell 5 күн бұрын
Part off my husband’’s evening dress uniform involves a cummerbund.
@tinahitsuji
@tinahitsuji 3 жыл бұрын
The video I didn't know I needed but I did LMAO thank you!
@thekingshussar1808
@thekingshussar1808 4 жыл бұрын
Love your content!
@poetmaggie1
@poetmaggie1 5 күн бұрын
Now we all look like slobs.
@quinnfischer6529
@quinnfischer6529 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to buy nice clothes as soon as I’m full grown
@rowanwax
@rowanwax 4 жыл бұрын
🤩
@theAestheticOf
@theAestheticOf 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong history Origin of Cummerband related to Oldest martial arts Kalari payatu, in kalari payatu the warrior used a 14 feet silken cloth wrapped arond their waist it's called 'Kacha' in local language later the mugals and persians adopted it.
@AntiqueMenswear
@AntiqueMenswear 3 жыл бұрын
Our story starts with the Persian fashion being passed onto the British. So it's not wrong is it.
@theAestheticOf
@theAestheticOf 3 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueMenswear Only the term ' cummerband ' has Hindustani or persian origin. But the origin of 'cumberband' fashion deeply rooted "Kalari Payatu", the oldest martial art in the planet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3q2c6uEpcx0f6c Watch this video at 2:35 Sadly most of our history is only passed through oral tradition much as ballards, most european historians ignored our history.
@pigepodge8172
@pigepodge8172 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a hat video
@ccooper8785
@ccooper8785 2 күн бұрын
I always thought Benadryl Cumberbund was an actor not a weird, completely unnecessary, item of clothing...🤔
@Dhruv_Dogra
@Dhruv_Dogra 9 ай бұрын
The Mughals were NOT Persian. They were merely imitating Persians. They idenified with Tamerlame or Timur, a raider and looter from Uzbekistan, Central Asia. The word Mughal is a corruption of the word MONGOL. And we all know where Mongolia is.
@aloisguillerm4104
@aloisguillerm4104 4 жыл бұрын
That is quite amazing at last I met someone like I!!! Since I'm born im obssessed with 1890s mens fashion and dress with originals too!!! One must meet together one day. Do check my facebook Alois Willelm for a few pics of my outfit. I wear an original 1920s topper daily amongst other things. It is extraordinary u should be passionated by false collar cuffs n bibs just like I
@TheoTheTimeTravelingMagician
@TheoTheTimeTravelingMagician 9 ай бұрын
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