Origin of Cummerband related to Oldest martial arts Kalari payatu, in kalari payatu the warrior used a 14 feet silken cloth wrapped arond their waist it's called 'Kacha' in local language later the mugals and persians adopted it.
@Boselaphus3 жыл бұрын
@@theAestheticOf kamar means the back and band means a tie. Si i dont get it why you are saying this?
@AntiqueMenswear4 жыл бұрын
Hello guys, sorry that the video was briefly removed and re-uploaded, one of the titles was incorrect!
@brooke33124 жыл бұрын
I love Victorian women’s fashion but since watching you’re videos you make men’s fashion less boring and more interesting now that I’m learning that they were much more than suits changing a bit through the years. I see that it is much more complicated than that. Keep up the good work!
@genericmannequin4 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way. I love womens historical fashion but I didn't really bother looking into mens fashion so much, but learning all of the nuances of it makes it far more interesting.
@ruchikadayal94694 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video completely, but the first thing that went through my mind seeing 'Cummerbund' was it's resemblance to Kamar-band in my native tongue (hindustani/hindi-urdu/hindi- whatever you wanna call it). Kamar=waist Band=close so like, closed around the waist. kamarband (कमरबंद) is a type of jewellery. edit: found it in the vid. 'round 6 min mark.
@AntiqueMenswear4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, if you go to 03:28 we look at the etymology!
@theAestheticOf3 жыл бұрын
Wrong history, Origin of Cummerband related to Oldest martial arts Kalari payatu, in kalari payatu the warrior used a 14 feet silken cloth wrapped arond their waist it's called 'Kacha' in local language later the mugals and persians adopted it.
@andressorin12053 жыл бұрын
It’s a Persian word alright, that entered Hindustani, like so many other words. Let’s not forget that Persian was the language spoken in the Mughal Court. “Band” is a Indo-European word whose English cognate is… band!
@okonamaroko94194 жыл бұрын
You're such a brilliant and well-spoken storyteller. It's pleasure listening to you.
@bill99208 Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody who’s daring enough to do a history video on the cummerbund! I find that I like wearing cummerbunds better than a waistcoat ( possibly because I don’t wear a pocket watch). I like the illusion that it brings out that you appear taller wearing one, I like that it makes you look more put together and that you don’t have any breaks in your line from top to bottom. I also like how braces look when worn with cummerbunds, especially if the cummerbund is worn slightly tighter. I’m also not afraid to wear a tuxedo during the daytime as it looks incredible and when worn with the cummerbund and bow tie, looks like what a good suit should look like: sharp and elegant. The cummerbund looks so much better than a waistcoat and is cooler as well. So, the Brits had the right idea in bringing the cummerbund into wider use and we’ve all been able to use it to good advantage with our formal wear. Now if only we could get back into dressing up on a daily basis and lose the casualness of what we have become, we just might become a properly dressed country again. (I kind of doubt it will happen since too many men think wearing a suit is a hassle and that it’s uncomfortable to wear).
@nateranger7834 жыл бұрын
I was just becoming concerned that you may have stopped uploading, but then this video saved me from those concerns. A very interesting video and I hope to see more in the future, might you know anything of Dressing gowns and Smoking jackets?
@jameshendo1284 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE! 1: A whole full-on sash was still worn in the 90's?! 2: The fact that it's a fake trendy waistcoat is such a novelty I want one! I'm a living historian at a country estate portraying the 1880's in Australia (and a fan boy of 1895), it gets HOT here and I think these two are the best thing I've found out this year such a novelty! I'm going to wear these!
@timeminecraft60197 ай бұрын
Same, East side of the country and I dabble in a mixture of late 1800-1900s.
@kanashiiookami65374 жыл бұрын
Just to note, if you do ever plan on making video on waistcoats I'd love to see it. I think those are possibly the best looking part of men's attire and finish a suit beautifully. (Or look good without the jacket. It just seems more polished somehow to see a man wearing a waistcoat over his shirt and trousers rather than just the shirt and trousers. Tie optional, in my opinion.)
@khadijaaghazade77954 жыл бұрын
I appreciate and admire your hard work❤ your style is fantastic and I am so happy to have found someone who talks about the wonderful male side of fashion history, especially with such enthusiasm!😊 keep making great videos!
@frager6534 жыл бұрын
I recently learned about the cummervests from a 50s menswear tailoring book i bought. I was quite fascinated by them as i've never seen such a thing. Sadly they were just briefly mentioned and acknowledged. I wanted to research them on my own but your amazing video surprused me with enough satisfying info! Thanks for this! :)
@wilhelmseleorningcniht94103 ай бұрын
honestly, i live in the hot and humid US state of Georgia and i love the idea of these, especially with linen suiting material perhaps
@susangreen19666 күн бұрын
Wonderfully informative, thanks for explaining and illustrating so well, but please cut out the flashing lights at change of slides, it is triggering for epilepsy.
@weirdwestcountry86464 жыл бұрын
What an excellent video! I feel educated and entertained 😁 I've followed you on Instagram for ages but never indulged in your videos. Brilliant, would love to see more please!
@megozfireservices39894 жыл бұрын
Hi Aaron, great video. Just had a look in my catalogs, I found an example like your hounds-tooth shape in a 1901 Canadian catalog
@AntiqueMenswear4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for letting me know! It would be fantastic to see! My Instagram is @kasasenchou, so feel free to pop me a message if you fancy it!
@902IvanIvanIvan2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I learnt much.
@LixiaWinter4 жыл бұрын
It's so good that we can take trrnds that were unpopular, gaudy or inappropriate at the time and just enjoy them now
@SherbetLollipop4 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting! I've watched a bunch of your videos now (!) while doing some sewing :D I would love to hear more about waistcoats. Or anything really!
@eeloftheworld4 жыл бұрын
Look at this absolute mad man spitting even more facts
@enidan_4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another awesome video! Very interesting topic, I learn so many new things about men's fashion here. And I really like your humour :)
@pentecostalismo4 жыл бұрын
These videos are quality, on your first few videos!
@genericmannequin4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome! I learn something new every time. Would you consider talking about shirt collars? I've seen them in several different shapes and materials but I'm curious to know the significance of the various different types.
@melissaduncan99884 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly, enjoyed that! Thank you so much!
@akhirajordao33994 жыл бұрын
Today I'm very sad and frustrated because of some work, and this video cheered me up. Thank you
@Air0Sparks3 жыл бұрын
Love that fabric back drop!!!
@kli78674 жыл бұрын
Those videos are high quality and lots of details. Thanks
@theministryforhistory4 жыл бұрын
Another exceptional video, sir!
@lynnhobby323214 жыл бұрын
I had flashbacks of my wedding in 1987 and the hideous bright colors I used. Those matching cummerbunds... those poor groomsmen... 🤦♀️🤣😂🤣.
@kanashiiookami65374 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all this info. I always wondered why guys wore those because it seemed like it had no purpose. But knowing this? It makes more sense. I always was under the impression that men's clothing was made for function and not just fashion. Ties, I was told when I was a kid, either were to "hide the shirt buttons, or any gaps made by them" and bowties were to keep the collar closed and modest. Codswallop I know now. But it sounded good at the time. Cummerbunds? Those made no sense. (Also thought it was said and written "cumberbun" which explains why I never found owt about it.😅)
@wrong_thyme_old4 жыл бұрын
no function? what about their crumb-catching, ticket-holding power!? 😱
@bionodroid5475 ай бұрын
You’ve inspired me to make some day wear cummerbunds now. Easy way to use up the rest of the fabric from the 0.3 yards left over when I make a pair of trousers and matching waistcoat.
@gtickno29464 жыл бұрын
Between this and the fake shirt video I'm amused by the lengths people would go to in order to maintain the correct look while trying to keep cool. Gotta keep up that appearance
@marshallemmet13663 жыл бұрын
Dress smart, not down!
@eliegbert81212 жыл бұрын
Better than watching people wear next to nothing walk around on the street
@Nyx7737 ай бұрын
@@eliegbert8121 or wearing their pajamas
@bobgrob48 күн бұрын
its a crumb catcher. Vents need to be worn opening upward to catch food crumbs
@Boselaphus3 жыл бұрын
Correction: Mughals were Turkic in origin, used Persian as court language and also in many Indian languages Kamar and band means the same.
@matthewmillar38047 күн бұрын
We're done of these simply a length of fabric? How was that tied to prevent falling down, or the knot being too bulky?
@MildlyRabid4 жыл бұрын
So cool to see @berolinensis on a KZbin video!
@ChelleLlewes3 күн бұрын
Wow -- first time watching your channel, and I am smitten! I have friends who wear Edwardian garb for living history exhibitions as well as just for fun and frolicking, and they always look just exquisite! And they, too, are gonna love your channel! Note to self: It's cummerbund, not cumberbund. For more than seventy years, I have been saying and spelling it *wrong?*
@LordRivers4 жыл бұрын
His Lordship is intrigued! I shall inquire at my tailor about having some made for Continental jaunts.
@caragarcia23074 күн бұрын
I feel some of the mock vest cummerbunds were probably used as belts on women's dresses, especially the menswear styles. It just looks like something women would use to dress up a plain sack dress or skirt. They probably would have altered them to flatter better.
@machoprotegido56073 жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you have a video on old necktie styles? Like the one you are wearing at the end?
@TheDmulcahy4 жыл бұрын
Cracking video! I have learned so much
@mtosta28614 жыл бұрын
Capital! Great research. Also, we’ve come full circle, as many militaries use a “battle belt” as part of a combat uniform- a thick (sometimes with Kevlar inserts) belt that covers part of the hips and waist to protect the area below a bullet proof vest, as well as to hold a gun or other gear pouches... Will you consider making these? (As well as other items of interest) ...Perhaps opening an Etsy shop?
@alanjameson866418 сағат бұрын
It seems to me that a modern version of the Cummerbund could be fastened with Velcro-- easier to put on, adjust, and remove. An older-looking one apparently of multiple layers with a fancy knife handle protruding from the folds appeals, but might attract unwelcome attention from the minions of the law and others. A notebook and large fountain pen would be safer and at the same time a social statement.
@hiteshahir26713 жыл бұрын
Cummer bandh is an indian (hindi) word. It is totally indian which british incorporated in their dressing style.
@AntiqueMenswear3 жыл бұрын
We demonstrate the etymology of the word and the origin of the garment dates back to ancient Persia.
@DanielRiera Жыл бұрын
Hi I'm interested in the sash version. Do you know the dimensions and how they were tied? Or any modern sources? Thank you.
@jhnshep5 күн бұрын
I don't know why I ended up here but after 4 years I'd like to add, while in the French foreign Legion we wore a blue cummerbund for ceremonial dress that apparently started because the layer of wool would keep the temperature of the intestines up reducing the risk of food poisoning from spoilt rations in the desert. Whether it works or not, I don't know. However, it does keep you warm and somewhere to hide your lighter, as your cigarettes were usually under your Kepi.
@justsomebloke6214 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of some Polynesian waist bands. In the Kingdom of Tonga the men wear what is called ta'ovala. When ancient Polynesian sailors arrived to Tonga their clothes were seen as unacceptable to wear in front of the king as the voyage has worn them out. These sailors cut up up their expensive sails and wrapped themselves in it, a sacrifice the King of Tonga was touched by. He ordered that the ta'ovala be the uniform of his court. Though Queen Salote III ordered that the ta'ovala should be worn by all and this traditional waistband is common now, even worn with suits and dresses to this day. Where as in my Samoan culture we have a waistband worn in the similar way called a valatau or vala and the other a 'ie toga. Worn by the chiefs, their single oldest son or daughter during celebrations and cultural ceremonies. Some older photos of 1920s, 30s Samoa and Tonga you can see the vala and ta'ovala worm with vintage suits and rathet than trousers, the dress male skirt known as a ie faitaga in Samoa, sulu in Fiji and tupenu in Samoa are normally with suits jackets and the traditional waistband. A year after Elizabeth's coronation, she visits Queen Salote Tupou III in the Kingdom of Tonga. Salote and her son Prince Tau'faahau greet the English queen wearing the ta'ovala over their outfits. Though being Polynesian myself and living in Utah, I like to dress according the 1920s in Utah. As a large Polynesian community also lives here in Utah, I find I wear the waistband and traditional male skirt of my culture with the jacket and collarless shirt as seen in old photos. Anyways, this was very interesting.
@hilarychandler36217 күн бұрын
Vincent Briggs - is a KZbinr you should know. Mostly makes 18th century peices but I think he might find this interesting.
@samuelmatheis3 жыл бұрын
2:30 hahahaha the graph lines! after kamarband hahaha
@TheoTheTimeTravelingMagician9 ай бұрын
0:26 *Vsauce music starts*
@TheN3tT3chMan4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed I didn’t get to see the karate chop “done” ending.
@andressorin12053 жыл бұрын
“Sepah” is Persian for “army”, so ”sepahi” means “soldier”. That word gave “spahi” in French through Arabic, or “sepoy” in English and “cipayo” in Spanish.
@ghostwarrior12894 жыл бұрын
so..the cummerbund is the Victorian fannypack
@laybabenedict3 жыл бұрын
By the way kamar band is a Urdu word too, lovely video 😊
@mk30b252 жыл бұрын
As someone from a hot country that cannot wear 3 piece suit, this is a very amusing video.
@aer00893 жыл бұрын
The Mughals weren’t exactly Persian in origin; more accurately, they started as Persianate Turco-Mongols.
@just_a_hampaАй бұрын
Honestly surprised sashes hadn’t much to do with this fashion.
@okonamaroko94194 жыл бұрын
Btw is Olga Polish by any chance?
@MildlyRabid4 жыл бұрын
She’s Russian.
@okonamaroko94194 жыл бұрын
@@MildlyRabid I was close. Thanks!
@leonstevens13823 жыл бұрын
Most insightful!
@pentecostalismo4 жыл бұрын
Why is your Instagram banned?!
@AntiqueMenswear4 жыл бұрын
It's not :) At least, it shouldn't be.
@pentecostalismo4 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueMenswear Why can't I access it?
@AntiqueMenswear4 жыл бұрын
@@pentecostalismo I'm really unsure why you wouldn't be able to? What's your handle?
@pentecostalismo4 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueMenswear it says its broken, and I don't follow it anymore but I don't use Instagram much anymore
@KarolaTea3 жыл бұрын
interesting video, thanks! :D
@nyanlinhtet30163 жыл бұрын
Pyjamas also derived from an indian word,too.
@quinnfischer96243 жыл бұрын
your my Fashion role model lol
@AntiqueMenswear3 жыл бұрын
You're too kind! ;-;
@jakecavendish3470Күн бұрын
Tbh that is precisely what I _did_ think it was so I watched this for no real reason. Still a good video though
@blakemcnamara91053 жыл бұрын
I only like them for black tie.
@KelikakuCoutin4 күн бұрын
Subscribed. Great job. Thanks for the content. Keep up the good work. בס'ד
@caragarcia23074 күн бұрын
I always thought women were supposed to be the judgemental ones when it comes to bizarre fashion. I can't imagine carring if a man wore a colorfully patterned sash with broaches. I suppose maybe not to a wedding or funeral depending on the family. Sometimes the bride and groom can be really casual so best to keep it plain unless it's known if the bride and groom are going to have formal gown and suit or tux.
@sherilumley54985 күн бұрын
For my high school prom in 1988, every male wore a cummerbund.
@nelliebly661610 ай бұрын
😊
@charlesf90504 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah bro drip or drown
@he-man_3 жыл бұрын
We call belts Kamarband in Persian
@hazeluzzell5 күн бұрын
Part off my husband’’s evening dress uniform involves a cummerbund.
@tinahitsuji3 жыл бұрын
The video I didn't know I needed but I did LMAO thank you!
@thekingshussar18084 жыл бұрын
Love your content!
@poetmaggie15 күн бұрын
Now we all look like slobs.
@quinnfischer65294 жыл бұрын
I’m going to buy nice clothes as soon as I’m full grown
@rowanwax4 жыл бұрын
🤩
@theAestheticOf3 жыл бұрын
Wrong history Origin of Cummerband related to Oldest martial arts Kalari payatu, in kalari payatu the warrior used a 14 feet silken cloth wrapped arond their waist it's called 'Kacha' in local language later the mugals and persians adopted it.
@AntiqueMenswear3 жыл бұрын
Our story starts with the Persian fashion being passed onto the British. So it's not wrong is it.
@theAestheticOf3 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueMenswear Only the term ' cummerband ' has Hindustani or persian origin. But the origin of 'cumberband' fashion deeply rooted "Kalari Payatu", the oldest martial art in the planet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3q2c6uEpcx0f6c Watch this video at 2:35 Sadly most of our history is only passed through oral tradition much as ballards, most european historians ignored our history.
@pigepodge81724 жыл бұрын
Please make a hat video
@ccooper87852 күн бұрын
I always thought Benadryl Cumberbund was an actor not a weird, completely unnecessary, item of clothing...🤔
@Dhruv_Dogra9 ай бұрын
The Mughals were NOT Persian. They were merely imitating Persians. They idenified with Tamerlame or Timur, a raider and looter from Uzbekistan, Central Asia. The word Mughal is a corruption of the word MONGOL. And we all know where Mongolia is.
@aloisguillerm41044 жыл бұрын
That is quite amazing at last I met someone like I!!! Since I'm born im obssessed with 1890s mens fashion and dress with originals too!!! One must meet together one day. Do check my facebook Alois Willelm for a few pics of my outfit. I wear an original 1920s topper daily amongst other things. It is extraordinary u should be passionated by false collar cuffs n bibs just like I