The "Complete" Lore of the Van der Linde Gang - Red Dead Redemption 2

[@TheFloorballer]

”You sir are a fish” - Arthur Morgan, 1899

[@R3tr0w1]

Time for another RDR2 lore video, Boys

[@backlandjbreaker24]

i love lore videos 😂

[@XXXAchillesDFS]

Only if it’s Fizhy

[@paldennorbu8]

And probably the last...

[@useyourimaginasean]

@@paldennorbu8 he will probably make more rdr2 content in the future. I can understand him wanting to move on he has comprehensively examined Red Dead 2

[@paldennorbu8]

@@useyourimaginaseanMaybe. I was just more on that he has covered so much. Soon there might not be anything left to cover.

[@rubenhinze7695]

Kieran was always such a tragic character to me. He always such an innocent soul and as far as I remember he never caused anyone harm other than that one O'Driscoll he shot to save Arthur as far as I know. What made it worse for me is that I tried to greet him and be nice to him in camp, but Arthur would just antagonize him despite Kieran saving his life. The way the gang treated him was always a reminder that they weren't Robin Hood's Merry Men as they thought but just another ruthless outlaw gang. He always 100% did not deserve to die in the way he did, being tortured and beheaded by his previous captors and displayed to his new ones who were finally warming up to him, and all this at such a young age. Kieran deserves more recognition imo.

[@b_jwright24]

He’s a very respectable character. There’s a side mission where you can fish with him and he explains his backstory

[@RaygunBehrclaw]

​@@b_jwright24didn't catch that my first play through I don't think. Definitely making sure I do this time

[@matrisgallus6189]

Yea, he was an orphan kid just looking for a family.. poor kid.

[@Kieran-h8p]

Same name as mine

[@DylanJ549]

There’s an interaction you can have with Kieran in chapter 2 where he thanks you for letting him stay at camp and freeing him, Arthur will then sheepishly thank him for saving him. Other than that and the fishing mission you can do with him in Chapter 3 that is the only time Arthur is nice to him from what I remember

[@Yes-Bean]

Even the rat's brother knew he was no-good

[@Xehanort10]

The only one who liked Micah was Dutch and even then it was only because he told Dutch what he wanted to hear.

[@Yes-Bean]

@@Xehanort10 and because Micah saved Dutch's life in a bar before the game starts

[@zambekiller]

​@@Yes-Bean he may have also been the one to put his life in danger initially given that rats violent nature

[@fredericksmith7942]

Oh he probably knew longer than anyone else.

[@KevinSaporito-p1p]

Fr fr

[@phil.moloney2980]

You know I think that Dutch really did care about everyone in the gang in the beginning, but all the failures, pressure of leadership and that rat Micah being in his ear is what caused his down fall.

[@Gwyn1stborn]

Maybe. They sure make you hate him by the end lol

[@hobbylobby7967]

Nooo you don’t say?? Lol. This is obvious

[@not_lewis2649]

Hosea died and Dutch was desperate for someone to listen to him

[@A_Black_hoodie]

It's funny the amount of gang members tried to rob or con dutch.

[@joekuvorkian]

They saw a Yankee dressed semi nicely using big words and thought they saw a Mark 😂

[@brodycartwright1611]

I saw your pfp and thought that I commented lmao

[@A_Black_hoodie]

@@brodycartwright1611 lol

[@zambekiller]

​@@A_Black_hoodie oh god their multiplying someone do something

[@A_Black_hoodie]

@@zambekiller huh?

[@Gwyn1stborn]

You forgot to mention that Arthur used to take baths with his dog Copper. This is important lore.

[@sephirothdomain1]

your picture and comment combo is so wholesome ( I had a funny comment but your Dogs face completely erased it lmao )

[@Fizhy]

Bit of a late upload, I don't like sitting on these projects when complete so enjoy!

[@Cole39230]

Thanks for the years of lore and deep dives on red dead I feel like you’ve covered nearly everything so thanks for all the vids 👍👍

[@backlandjbreaker24]

We need more RDR1 content and lore please 🙏

[@Fizhy]

@@Cole39230 probably have at this point, going to push the GTA content in anticipation for 6 to fill the gaps and hopefully it'll all go to plan.

[@loganwebb1171]

1000 views in half an hour! Awesome stuff Fizhy!

[@noahtull4382]

much appreciated

[@oldschoolfrp2326]

“Josiah Trelawny is a strange one.” I see what you did there - His formal attire caused many to think of the Strange Man, though it would have been common formal wear at this time. I don’t consider him a gang member, but a (somewhat) trusted information broker, a link between the gang and people like the fences and the disgruntled men. Rev Swanson is often drunk, but he’s also a heroin addict in “Morpheus’ grip.” You can find his needle in a hollowed bible, an apt metaphor for the man himself. Great overview of the entire lot. There’s no end of potential material to discuss with the RD games.

[@3n3j0t4]

Trelawny is also a charismatic conman like Hosea who participates in robberies

[@TyC1015]

Rev Swanson is actually addicted to morphine, which is where the name "Morpheus' embrace" came from

[@lancesilvis4085]

@@TyC1015morphine = heroin that’s used in a medical situation. They’re the same thing.

[@fredericksmith7942]

It actually wouldn’t even have been seen as formalwear at the time. Suits like Trelawneys were seen as casual wear.

[@georgehazard1986]

​@@TyC1015to further this point, I'm pretty sure heroin hasn't been discovered yet. But opium and morphine did a great job before it came along. If you've ever seen the house in Valentine where the two dudes are peeking thru the window, if you peek too you can see them passing an opium pipe. Then the dude falls off the bed, and, I'm guessing, did not get lucky that night.

[@daghettoghost5539]

"You know nothing means more to me than this gang I live for it I'd happily die for it " Arthur Morgan 1899

[@Tahitilover1899]

In the end he did die for a family, but not the family he thought he had.

[@jaymac7203]

28:48 "Crime was a family business to the Bellends" 😭😭 lol 😂

[@strvggler]

You know you wrote one of the best villains of the decade if years later people still sling insults at the mention of their name

[@LWolf94]

Never have I played a game in which I cared so deeply for the story's main characters, whether loving them or hating them. But the story and character arks of RDR2 are just so well done, it's impossible not to get attached, as if they're real people. Even years after playing the game, it still hurts emotionally thinking about what happens to them over the course of the game.

[@padgeyboy1]

Its 1:15am in the uk and you post this, thank you 🙏

[@Fizhy]

I know I have fellow insomniacs

[@padgeyboy1]

@@Fizhy sat down with a cup of tea and pringles, perfect

[@Fizhy]

@@padgeyboy1 what flavour pringles sir?

[@padgeyboy1]

@@Fizhy salt and vinegar ofcourse

[@crstudios4457]

Something for us finishing the night shift to watch first, for once! 😂😂😂

[@Chomza15]

Opened the video soon as I got on KZbin and clicked "Like" before it started! Really like the content of this channel 💯

[@danielsatter1805]

I do the same

[@Longshanks1690]

I’d love to see if someone could create a chronological roadmap of the VDL gang’s movements across its existence. We know Dutch and Hosea met in Chicago, and presumably also met Arthur in the “eastern” US, with various references across the game to robberies near Canada and the like. Yet Arthur’s hatred for the mere concept of civilisation due to how long they’d spent out west implies that they journeyed somewhere in the established states to somewhere like Colorado in the West - apparently they wanted to go to California implying they’d never been *that* far west, but that’s unclear. It’s also unclear why they went that far west in the first place given that they all seemed relatively safe and successful doing their gang activities in the east. Probably not given how much vagary still shrouded the early years of the gang’s existence but I’d be interested to see how much specificity we could give to their movements given what we know. 😅

[@Toviyah1305]

I was thinking the same thing

[@backlandjbreaker24]

Well they used real locations so its not possible 😂

[@2KXMKR]

@@backlandjbreaker24 Always bugged me how they did that and didn't just make up their own town names like in-game and just say it was "up North" "down South" "back East" or "out West" At least then we could speculate where those towns relate to instead of just out-right saying "Chicago!"

[@bossofyou7719]

I think the furthest they went was Reno, Nevada. Arthur and Javier talk about robbing some stagecoach there if you go on a fishing trip with him

[@Hyper_Kong]

The tale of the Van Der Linde Gang in both games is definitely something I’ll teach my future kids about when they are old enough to game. 😊❤

[@SleepyjoeOG]

Tell them like it’s a real Wild West myth

[@MrTheDonMagicOne]

@@SleepyjoeOGreal man. I treat this like it’s a non-fictional Story. Ain’t far fetched to be one after all!

[@LFPman]

It would be one hell of a tale. A gang of less than 25, operated for decades, faced and defeated rival gangs and law forces, 5x their numbers. It would be one hell of an epic tale

[@I.AM.ON.MY.WAY.]

That’s actually a great idea

[@AdamParkhurst]

Very cringe

[@Longshanks1690]

8:30 Does Colm ever say his own name? The gang,* and law, pronounce it as written - much to Roger Clark’s irritation lol - but when Arthur is captured, you can overhear his Irish gang members pronounce it as “Colum” but I don’t think Colm ever says it himself in the couple scenes we have with him? * Except Sean

[@bodesea8586]

We don’t hear him say it, but Kieran says to Sean that he himself says it Colm, because he’s born and raised in the US.

[@georgehazard1986]

As much as Roger pushed back on this, it does ultimately make sense that a bunch of outlaws in the west/deep south wouldn't have any clue how to pronounce it.

[@thegreatestfallout1794]

​​@georgehazard1986 Aurthor was quite a bit more well traveled and well read than a typical outlaw. Remember that most of the gang can't read or write, while Aurthor keeps a journal and reads literature. I can see him intentionally misspeak the name for a rise out of people, but still know the 'proper' way to say it.

[@ryanjarcy1227]

Fizhy you’re really cutting into my productivity with these incredible videos 😤

[@Tryonic]

23:35 i always had a theory that the unnamed traitor of the gang has the potential to be a playable protagonist in a prequel to RDR2. if he truly betrayed the gang, he must've had some motive to do so, and betraying a gang of killers, thieves, and lowlives is the more morally correct path to follow-- meaning he was following his path to redemption. theres another theory i like-- mac callender has the ambiguity to be a playable character, especially with the bill remark that he was heartless but he had a heart-- much like the player is with Arthur. jenny kirk also has the same kind of ambiguity about her, being beloved by many of the gang members, dying in a fashion not too disimilar from other main character deaths (gunshot wound during the blackwater massacre, which implies she wasn't like the other camp girls like tilly or marybeth, she was a shootist). I think if we do see more of her story told, she has all the building blocks to be another Sadie Adler-like character.

[@Mariuhhhh]

Honestly the only information we ever get from Arthur is “We try to avoid murder in camp. I mean there was that one time but he was a traitor.” This implies he (the traitor) isn’t too well liked anymore considering Arthur doesn’t seem to feel too bad about it and quickly writes him off as just a traitor. I wish we knew just a little bit more about this unnamed traitor because he could have the potential to be a character who simply tries to bring down the Van Der Linde Gang. Apparently this murder happened anywhere between 1895-1898 so the traitor could’ve very well been in the gang for longer than that. Maybe he’s not really talked about much anymore because his betrayal made everyone despise him.

[@RemyHindle2003]

What if the unnamed traitor from before wasn't actually a traitor, what if he tried to stand up to Dutch's lies but was killed and Dutch claimed he ratted them out

[@backlandjbreaker24]

Maybe it was foreshadowing about Molly fate? 🤔

[@SIEGTHEGOATFRFR]

​@@backlandjbreaker24Yeah, that might be it. The achievement you get after Molly dies is called "No traitors" and she was killed in camp.

[@mistermidnight1823]

​@@SIEGTHEGOATFRFR except to me it seemed more like she was just saying that to get shot.

[@SIEGTHEGOATFRFR]

@@mistermidnight1823 that's more likely

[@Vincent_N89]

You have some of the best GTA & RDR2 videos on YT Fizhy 👍

[@notblakeyboo]

Hope this man never stops making these top notch RDR content! 🙏

[@Kadamien]

Darn it, Fizhy, I love the choice of music you use, it's melancholic cowboy music! Gosh, Rockstar makes the best soundtracks..

[@ReaperGoji]

"Well, I guess I'm starting to see things a lot more clearly now" Arthur Morgan after watching this

[@Xehanort10]

10:52 Dutch "Revenge is a fool's game unless it's me taking revenge" Van Der Linde.

[@MarinJanelle]

i can’t wait to watch this every night for the next month i love these videos so much

[@danielsatter1805]

I like to think that because of the limitless universe theory that these characters were real exactly as they were in the game in another universe

[@_sim0nn637]

Such an amazing timeless Red Dead masterpiece yet again, from my 500+ hours of gametime across all Red Dead games I see about 98% of this vids lore and order is perfect. Theres things you missed, things you could have put in better in order to make the vid less messy, but it really isn't a big deal. Good fkin job on this bro. Your vids are timeless.

[@GTAVictor9128]

Additional character lore missed in the video: Sean: Sean's father was an Irish independence fighter - dubbed "Fenian" by the British Crown - who was killed by British government agents in a night raid. You can find a newspaper snippet detailing the whole thing at camp in chapter 2. With that context, it makes perfect sense how a young Sean would have been attracted to Dutch's cause. Lenny: In one of his campfire tales, Lenny mentions that his mother was literally born in a field of a plantation, when slavery still existed in the US.

[@I_HAVE_LUMBAGO]

I'm glad to see you're going back to my favorite game franchise.

[@thedefohuman]

red harlow

[@iZynx_]

Your channel is so underrated. Peak quality videos right here.

[@Robby_C]

Imagine how drastically different the story would have been if Micah didn’t burn Sadie’s house down.

[@stevenbrennan9711]

The detail Fizhy goes in with his Rdr2 vids is nothing but outstanding. Brings all the joy back from when I was playing Rdr2 this particular video was such an absolute fantastic watch. Thanks Fizhy!!!

[@bryanhardie]

This is an amazing work your have done. Thank you. Please have a good holiday and get some well deserved rest.

[@TribianiJR]

Love the channel man, been watching for a while

[@xvxvcaspervxvx]

I still think RDR2 is by far one of the best games I've ever played! It was also the last game I would ever buy day 1 at a midnight launch with others dressed as cowboys and outlaws. The writing and acting by far, sells this game as something genuine, rarely felt and experienced in today's gaming medium. I love the game so much, I went to a Con and met both Roger Clark and Rob Wietoff! I will always remember that day!

[@dadassery8506]

You’re becoming one of my favorite tubers. Thanks.

[@Soket-pm1kv]

This man carry’s me through 2am when I have school in the morning

[@ciindyylouwho]

The background music made me so emotional, beautifully picked 😭❤️

[@tonik2229]

dude the choice of music was excellent in this vid, really rounded the whole thing out ❤❤ (edit: colm is NOT pronounced column 😂)

[@tsukuyomi8703]

Yeesss love your red dead lore vids Fizhy!

[@KevinSaporito-p1p]

Really well done thank u for telling us this cuz now we know more about the characters of red dead pls drop another video

[@Pr0digyZRX]

I'm a bit over 1 minute in and I'm already happy I clicked on it. Love rdr lore

[@egkol849]

Saw that you uploaded the video right up when i started to study. Pure joy

[@teyanuputorti7927]

this was a great lore video Fizhy thank you for making it and I hope all is well.

[@huxleyfreeman4284]

I watch these videos all the time I'm watching it and playing rdr2 right now

[@SomeRandomPersonOnTheNet]

Finally got a minute to watch!

[@IanPendleton-gh6ox]

This was a very nice video, and I thank you for making it. I really appreciate how thorough it was made, with the only think I'd add being that Arthur buying the fish and lying about catching them happened in 1884, around a year before John joined the group. As an aside, I have an idea for at least one more video on the Red Dead Universe if you're interested in hearing it. If you're not interested then just let me know and I'll drop it, but I do think it'd make for a fascinating video.

[@jordanaustinowen3108]

Your videos projects are always masterpieces

[@WilliamRumpf01200]

I love when you do these video, I find them very entertaining

[@truthhurts3524]

As always, top notch!

[@Footy-zt1kc]

This is best rdr channel hands down not even close

[@Dennisgameplayentertainment]

i realy love watching these video's you make man good work

[@reecesampson4646]

What a video bro❤ i recommend watching this video and starting a new save in rdr2 as this vid is immaculate Fizhy💪

[@mikeecko]

This is an absolute perfect video for somebody new to the game. Anybody who starts playing this game needs to watch this video so they can get the rundown of all the characters of the gang right away. I wish I had this video back in 2018 when I started the game all confused in the snow 😱😱🤯🤣🤣

[@SketchySkullKnight]

Dude the chapter names in the description are hilarious 😂

[@badtemper88]

RDR2 is the only game I’ve ever played that made me feel like I knew these people and they were my friends and when things start to fall apart I was sad. Along with all the meme era of the gang that die. Arthur will always be my favorite character along with John and Charles. I’m glad life worked out for one of them.

[@JeremyWest210]

Excellent video very well researched and very comprehensive ❤❤

[@tinydancer6095]

Babe wake up! Another fizhy rdr video just dropped !!

[@Jasongilliar]

Ah awsome dude. That was a nice video fizhy, also well done. I enioyed that, and i guess have fun on your day or days off i guess. Last couple of videos about gta 5&4 and watch dogs and rdr2 are exactly what i like.

[@RealKeithernet]

Extremely well done! Thank you!

[@colinmoras2385]

Welp.. this is one of them videos I gotta make time for. Full undivided attention. Thanks Fizhy!

[@sionrhysroberts]

Great vid as always mate

[@chrishorn7751]

I never comment on KZbin videos. Ever. This is a great video. Big ups

[@No1Comrade]

“Babe! Wake up! Fizhy uploaded!”

[@xperiuscastello8613]

I dread the day when you may be unable to find anything left in RDR2 to make a lore video. Love your work on RDR2 ❤

[@JMR_2028]

Dutch probably picks people in need to be in his gang intentionally. That way they’ll feel they owe him, and they won’t leave

[@theriddler5601]

Red Dead Redemption 2 is without a doubt one of the greatest games to ever be made and it feels like a full circle story! If a third game was ever made then it would need to be its own story because the Van Der Linde one is complete. Thanks for this video Fizhy!

[@dutchvanderlinde8619]

Great video I really enjoyed this

[@RyanSprkl]

Arthur and Hosea weren’t present at the boat robbery, they were running their own errand as they didn’t want to partake.

[@killerelite5252]

I'm replaying the rdr story both one and two. Perfect timing.

[@fatemahabdi5558]

At this point, I want RDR3 just to listen to your lores!

[@lorealiiiii]

i love these videos let’s go!! i’m starting now 🍿

[@harsh111yt]

Fizhy is the best RDR content creator on KZbin

[@Standardaltaccount]

I love the names of the video chapters. John Maren, Javier Squi, Josiah Treone and Sad Adler XD! Main characters, Of Rad Dad Ressurection too. Made by companies to avoid rockstar copyright.

[@Tivantri1]

Sad Adler is very accurate

[@ivakyilinsky]

Javier and bill's tones while talking about how they met Dutch and how he saved them.. No wonder they stood by him at the end, and no wonder they were the most affected by his decline

[@isaaccruz1944]

I love how you didn't really spoil anything from the game and said everything from events before

[@lucabrazzi7112]

40 mins Fizhy video’s are the best !

[@trevthekidd]

Hosea: *_I'm about to con this suited up city boy_* Dutch: *_(Y) Loot_*

[@YokozunaNumber1]

Hearing how perfectly Javier speaks English, Dutch could've made a fortune selling English-learning phonograph records.

[@ziepex7009]

Fizhy you legend!

[@JerseyRails104]

It’s here boys

[@RDR.CLIPZ123]

Great vid!

[@SOAD_addict]

21:30 not to be a geek, but we do technically see davey alive. in the first appearance of him in the wagon, in the very start of the game, hes just about alive and shivering.

[@t3hSpAdEs]

Thank you Bernard

[@d.r.tweedstweeddale9038]

Excellent story telling with compelling visuals. Thanks as always.

[@jankusthegreat9233]

Drinking a coffee on break at work. Ty

[@MistaSnowman2009]

10:21 he taught him everything except how to swim 😭😭

[@topleftfromtime]

This game genuinely has the potential to become a *_blockbuster_* film

[@Helflip]

23:36 I think the un-named traitor could be colm odriscolls brother

[@deadroses19]

oh wow yeah

[@Thrill_Hou]

Loved the description of Micah’s family. “🔔🔚” 😂😂😂

[@VINNICENTE]

hosea's death was the one that snapped me to hatred, he was the best, if stayed alive he might've just stayed with john in beachers hope or dying from his sickness

[@hybridxtr]

arthur was the rock and the best damn character of any game or movie ive ever played or seen

[@AyubuKK]

Dutch truly is quite the charismatic and impressionable man huh.

[@Thomas_Angelo]

Arthurs dog was the main gunman of the gang in 1898. The fishes were the payment

[@magiccheetos420]

About to play again, gotta watch this

[@Jordan-tt8xs]

“Crime was a family business to the bellends” yes yes it was

[@NeptuneBeatz]

Dutch taught John everything ,except for how to swim 🤣

[@CowboyRibeye]

Arthur's life was fucked. The little bit of redemption towards the end is nice.

[@Robman0908]

“We were told if we hit 50 that we’d get a special surprise.” Lol, John cracks me up in RDR 1. He really has no use for the crap going on around him.