THE COMPLETED BANKAI - Toshiro Hitsugaya's TRUE POWER, Unlocked | Bleach Discussion

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Toshiro Hitsugaya undergoes a surprising transformation towards the end of the Bleach manga - he grows up, literally! I figured it was about time I dedicated a video to one of the most popular characters in the series, so here we are. We're taking a closer look at this evolution of Hitsugaya's Bankai and what it means for the character!
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@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
Let's get to 100k subscribers! We're nearly there - I can't believe it. Also, let me know how you felt about the completed 'Daiguren Hyourinmaru'. Did you like the transformation immediately, or did you take some time to come round to it, like I did? Let me know!
@nickdurham3946
@nickdurham3946 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah brother, super happy for you. Definitely earned it 🤙
@13wolter
@13wolter 2 жыл бұрын
A very worthy topic of discussion
@jakehero95
@jakehero95 2 жыл бұрын
So close, you'll get there for sure! It's been awesome seeing you more than reach your sub goals each time you set one. 100k soon to be down, 125k next! 😁
@RoachsFilmReel
@RoachsFilmReel 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly there Tommo.
@kennyngeleka7387
@kennyngeleka7387 2 жыл бұрын
Hi can u make a vid on who's the strongest squad from squad 1 to 13 plz
@raaam1
@raaam1 2 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but I think toshiro would be great head captain when he gets older. The potential is there as stated by shinsui and he has the strongest ice type zanpakuto like Yamamoto had the strongest fire type. Plus with his attitude I could totally see him being the serious grumpy captain
@4LegCrotch
@4LegCrotch 2 жыл бұрын
Realistically, Byakuya would probably be the next Head Captain should the mantle be up for grabs, but after him, yeah, it most likely would be Hitsugaya
@nineten9011
@nineten9011 2 жыл бұрын
MATSUMOTO
@starless4146
@starless4146 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh, the fan girls would just go crazy over him....
@dakodareid3807
@dakodareid3807 2 жыл бұрын
If aging is slowed in soul society then toshiro would be the inverse of yama in the end op af and sucking the energy and causing entropy out of everything.
@brodydiehl113
@brodydiehl113 2 жыл бұрын
@@4LegCrotch facts dude chops himself just to win
@luciussakura5031
@luciussakura5031 2 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing about his true bankai is that it freezes Gerard's bow, which is made out of reshi, so theoretically, Hitsugaya should be able to freeze cero's and kido too.
@marionarda2790
@marionarda2790 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly in the filler ( so non canon but still ) when the zampaktos escaped hyonrinmaru could freeze kido and did say a child like hitsugaya could not master him .
@jurgenzaka4957
@jurgenzaka4957 2 жыл бұрын
@@marionarda2790 i think the zanpakutos showed up in the manga. So that makes it a bit cannon. Which means what you said can also happen
@purerage7963
@purerage7963 2 жыл бұрын
@@jurgenzaka4957 Some of the zanpakuto spirits appear in the manga, but the ones in the filler arc are humanoid versions of them. E.g. Hyorinmaru is a dragon, while he was a muscular man in the Rebellion Arc.
@ember-evergarden
@ember-evergarden Жыл бұрын
He also froze momentum itself as seen when Gerard's shield froze midair and stopped in its path instead of falling to the ground. His ice literally negates physics making Hyorinmaru completely broken
@xPepe1310
@xPepe1310 10 ай бұрын
yeah its almost too strong. i wonder how they will balance it in the hell arc. @@ember-evergarden
@Amoschp524
@Amoschp524 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was interesting that the adult form has the ice form more of armor around Toshiro making him look more like a knight where in the normal form it forms a dragon. Wonder if there is some symbolism there because the normal form of Daiguren Hyourinmaru is curled protectively around Toshiro and that the adult form is Torshiro standing on his own.
@ladyfaeryj5108
@ladyfaeryj5108 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it's because they have became 1, like the sword is me. I can't remember the movie but it what's a shikigami that fuse with his sword, and this more or less seems to have the same theme
@maxwang956
@maxwang956 2 жыл бұрын
@@ladyfaeryj5108 Sealed sword frenzy? That movie was always out of place since it presents fusing with your zanpaktou as a painful experience the Baisin wanted to die to free himself of whereas everywhere else in the series it's seen as the pinnacle of shinigami evolution.
@jdc9258
@jdc9258 2 жыл бұрын
Seemed like he knew all along what the countdown of the flowers meant. He and his vice captain are opposites. He is the young prodigy who doesn't want to grow up physically into adulthood, though he shows a maturity in his character that is anything but childlike. His vice captain is overly mature and acts like a child. He didn't end his bankai before the last flower crumbled because of losing it, but because he wasn't ready for what he would gain from it. He was wrestling with coming of age. This is the moral to Hits' bankai.
@tsvetomirsheev3882
@tsvetomirsheev3882 2 жыл бұрын
Always been a big fan of Hitsugaya He was a kid essentially compared to other characters but he was mostly level headed and was not condenscending despite being a prodigy. I was very happy with his adult form showing him being the true top tier character he can be And his Bankai is in my top 5 most beastly
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s one of my favorite characters just by watching the anime probably helps because i enjoy teen Gohan, and asriel from Undertale, a lot.
@yoruichisan19
@yoruichisan19 Жыл бұрын
I suppose in the future any enemies would have to bring a significant amount of firepower with two ice/cold based captains (possibly a third, I think Isane's is also snow/ice based).
@crownedking_cj8890
@crownedking_cj8890 Жыл бұрын
It’s hard to say he’s level headed when he often lets his anger take over
@Classic_Glass_Bead
@Classic_Glass_Bead Жыл бұрын
​@@crownedking_cj8890 I think that's only in anime tho because iirc from what I've seen in the manga he's pretty much calm and level-headed, at least if it's not concerning Matsumoto's laziness towards paperwork or his height lol (but I could be wrong, after all it's been years since I've read it)
@marvthebass
@marvthebass 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure his bankai is complete in his "matured state". I feel like Kubo kinda sees Hitsugaya's bankai eventually becoming, well basically anyway, the ice version of Yamamoto's Zanka no Tachi. I feel like we've seen it near completion, but there is still going to be more to it
@DvEinz
@DvEinz 2 жыл бұрын
Yup i do agree with ur point. I wonder what kind of Version of Daiguren Hyorinmaru when Hitsugaya reach his original adult age.
@Vini-zv3lr
@Vini-zv3lr 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's pretty clear Bankai can be expanded over time. Take for instance Byakuya's new techniques after the Soul Palace, it seems that multiple techniques can be added on over time, and that would also explain how Zanka no Tachi has 4 different stages. Since Hyorinmaru is always worded with the same terms as Ryujin Jakka, I think the implication is that it's gonna eventually be comparable in strength, so while hee seems to have a flash freeze skill and a freeze shield right now, maybe he'll get a big AOE ice field later on, making it threaten the entire Soul Society like Yama did.
@1234andrewjacksmith
@1234andrewjacksmith 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it was brought up way back when Ichigo was being told about Bankai how both Shikai and Bankai vary according to the users strength and skill(both appearance and power ) similar to how Zanka no Tachi went from massive gust of fire from the blade to erasing everything it touched and seemed to gain or increase the power of the whole east defence skill of being clad in flames of the sun since mr has yhwach memories of fighting it seemed surprised at the whole thing
@quesodagod8840
@quesodagod8840 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya seems like he would’ve been a good Main character for a series
@camcam794
@camcam794 2 жыл бұрын
I love the filler episodes in the anime where they focus on him. Made me love him more
@f4ntyy
@f4ntyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@camcam794 what are the episodes?
@ravonayeomoni2950
@ravonayeomoni2950 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why he got a movie lol
@charger9912
@charger9912 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravonayeomoni2950 That was a great movie
@armoredp
@armoredp 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree mostly because, and this is probably an unpopular opinion, Toshiro is totally a Gary Stu, the ultimate Weeaboo self insert. To the point that I almost think Kibo did this on purpose. He looks like what most custom characters would look like if you could make your own character in a Bleach game. I don't dislike him, but he's kind of boring because of that. Especially because most of the other captains have such unique personalities, looks and abilities.
@SatoshiSosuke
@SatoshiSosuke 2 жыл бұрын
To answer why he doesn't like that form, I think it's because it shows his lack of mastery of his own bankai or inexperience. It visually shows that at his current level, his body cannot handle or contain his bankai's true power. So he could be seeing it as a form of weakness on his part.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
True it’s kind of like a adult gon, thing.
@sheelapaulin279
@sheelapaulin279 Жыл бұрын
I agree that should be the case.
@drumma4lyfe06
@drumma4lyfe06 2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro's mature bankai would only be in the beginning stages of him learning how to utilize it especially since he needs to be older to wield it. It's safe to assume that if Bleach continued into his adulthood, Toshiro would be OP because he would be in his natural state of growth. At some point, he would develop multiple phases like Yama or Shunsui had on theirs. I personally liked the mature version better
@r3gret2079
@r3gret2079 2 жыл бұрын
I. Love. This.
@martakavaliauskaite4566
@martakavaliauskaite4566 Жыл бұрын
@@r3gret2079 agree
@desroth
@desroth 2 жыл бұрын
I think the entire time he always actually looked like he does when all the petals disappear. We have to remember his first introduction he was actually killing his "grandmother" by being near her because he couldn't control his power at all. I think a lot like Kenpachi he put a complete lock on his power, and we see him mention numerous times that he could easily kill even his own comrades around him if he isn't careful. All the times we see him fighting he is in incredibly close proximity to people who would not survive any of his attacks, and with how powerful he is when in "Adult" form he just flicks his sword and immediately freezes his target completely. No build up or anything, just flick and boom frozen completely. I think he is very aware of his grown up form from the beginning but keeps himself so constrained it effects his outward appearance. I think his ice petals are not a count down to him completing his Bankai, I think they are a count down to his power breaking free completely hence why he suddenly ages up to the outward age he should actually be at by this point in the story. And look at the point in the story he finally lets the petals run out: everyone around him is immensely more powerful than ever before. He can finally cut loose without worrying about his comrades for the first time. But those are just my thoughts.
@optidalfprime3904
@optidalfprime3904 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this explanation. I don't think he knew about his grown up form but definitly that there was something waiting beyond the petals.
@sasgarbage7482
@sasgarbage7482 Жыл бұрын
Then Kubo should've added this kind of explanation in the series like zaraki 😅
@alexandercarder2281
@alexandercarder2281 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a huge fan of Toshiro Hitsugaya. I love his character and personality and single mindedness. And I love His ice powers. Always been a huge Subzero fan and so Hitsugaya always made perfect sense to me as a warrior.
@BankaiFever
@BankaiFever 2 жыл бұрын
Back in high school me and my friends used to call him gotenks just cause he looks closest to a dbz character I’m glad he gets a lot of shine in the final arc
@andyzhang7890
@andyzhang7890 2 жыл бұрын
Analysis aside, Kubo really knows what the fan girls want. So many toshiro forms, you already know the merch is gonna sell like crazy.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely haha
@3slicessenpai
@3slicessenpai 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, behind some debris: Matsumoto: "I wonder how my Captain is doing against that giant we saw after leaving Mayuri's pods..." Hitsugaya: *transforms into an adult playboy* Matsumoto: *spits the cafe au lait she had found in a thermos nearby*
@ember-evergarden
@ember-evergarden 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's really cool seeing the parallels between Ryujin Jakka and Hyorinmaru. Both are stated to be their element's strongest zankpakuto, and both bankai render their user essentially impervious by surrounding their user in fire/ice to such an extent that enemies would damage themselves upon contact. In addition, Hyorinmaru was able to freeze the momentum of Gerard's shield; anything that is frozen by his ice also has its powers negated. Hyorinmaru is wildly broken, probably one of the most OP abilities in Bleach. If you scale it up, it would literally negate Yamamoto's Ryujin Jakka's abilities.
@sonicwild665
@sonicwild665 2 жыл бұрын
A really good point missed in the video!
@bluemoon1716
@bluemoon1716 2 жыл бұрын
Kyoraku did say that toshiro has the potential to be stronger than himself when he fully matures
@adolessons6219
@adolessons6219 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why it sucks Hitsugaya basically never took down any villain with his ice but Rukia was able to
@korrafey1044
@korrafey1044 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't he defeat harribel?
@adolessons6219
@adolessons6219 2 жыл бұрын
@@korrafey1044 sadly no, she only appeared defeated when he used Hyoten Hyyakaso (hope I spelled that right) on her until Wonderweiss showed up and set her free
@justinedwards5047
@justinedwards5047 2 жыл бұрын
I think after what hitsugaya says about "I never said that's how my bankai worked" plus comments about having trouble controlling some of his bankai powers I don't think the petals were ever a timer, at least not exactly. I think the petals were acting as a limiter, his sword trying to hold back his full power so it doesn't overload his body (like what yachiru was doing for kenpatchi during his bankai) as he pulled on those powers more it became harder and harder for his sword to hold back, and the limiters decayed. Since his body wasn't yet able to withstand the full power they essentially served as a timer, but once he had worked up to it they gave him a kind of buffer period to work up to his full power rather than have it all thrown at him all at once.
@rajvirmalhans2073
@rajvirmalhans2073 2 жыл бұрын
I have always found it interesting how in the zanpaktou arc filler, his spirit mentions something about someone who is mature and dignified and worthy of admiration. Which is the vibe you get from this transformation
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just finished it, and I’m getting through the fake katakuira town now, true i loved that line it gave me chills thinking about them adapting it in the anime, and from the shot of him alone I’m hyped, but you can see he just wants to be this strong without going Bankai, he probably wants one more original since he could do the flash freezing, and stuff as a adult in shikai.
@oreoman5993
@oreoman5993 2 жыл бұрын
considering kubo has been planning this bankai ever since toshiros first appearance I think it works great. He absolutely needed an upgrade and it was done in a way that makes sense and shows toshiros hard work as a captain
@Alex_durden
@Alex_durden 2 жыл бұрын
I love everything around this mature bankai appearance. The fact that his clothes are the Sternritters and are ripped showing that his body has changed, the eyes, the angles. It's one of my favorite Kubo drawings and it appears very quickly.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 жыл бұрын
I actually kind of hated it, he looks like a Saint Seiya character.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and as a big fan of Asriel Dreemurr, I’m always for a cutie with white hair all grown up, and cold pun intended.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxIronsThird I mean i like how Adult Asriel, in Undertale, looks more, but Toshiro’s, isn’t bad it’s just more basic.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshshrum2764 barf
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxIronsThird Hah, but come on you know I’m right damn me to hell for being bi.
@a.jordan9288
@a.jordan9288 Жыл бұрын
By Shunsui own words Toshiro will be the strongest later. Dunno if head captain but power wise he will stand above the rest.
@JohnGlow2
@JohnGlow2 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the completed Daiguren Hyourinmaru is just a glimpse at what he’ll be capable of in the future. If we assume that his adult form is at least 100 years older than his current state, it’d be reasonable to assume that it would become his normal bankai once his body develops to the point he can actually handle it. Remember, immediately after they shattered Gerard, he is seen almost collapsing implying that forcefully aging his body puts alot of strain on him. When he no longer has to do that I think that would open up even more avenues to exploit his potential.
@MaverickS505
@MaverickS505 2 жыл бұрын
You are literally the best Bleach analyst on KZbin. Keep up the great work. We support you 100%
@Blizzardfire
@Blizzardfire 2 жыл бұрын
I really like that the Complete Daigurren Hyorinmaru was hinted all the way back in the Fake Karakura Town arc. While Hitsugaya was fighting Harribel, Stark ask Shunsui about Toshiro's power level, and Shunsui responds that he thinks that in about 100 years, Hitsugaya might be stronger than him. Ever since that conversation I waited for some sort of power up that would allow Hitsugaya to reach that hypothetical future power level.
@asianomatic
@asianomatic 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite captain from day one. Him versus Gin on the roof was so cool
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
Pun intended?
@Ginko_Sakata
@Ginko_Sakata 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he trolls renji and rukia saying he's toshiro's older brother
@LethalxHeart
@LethalxHeart Жыл бұрын
I feel like Toshiro getting concerned everytime his bankai was about to run out meant that he was worried that he wasn't strong enough to control that power yet. I feel Rangiku knew the true nature behind his bankai as in the Arancar arc she was worried about the petals running out as well. We just assumed it meant his bankai ran out. Edit: Even while training after the Aizen arc He always talked about controlling his bankai, there's always been hints. I feel like he always meant he has to control the power of his adult form.
@typebbb
@typebbb Жыл бұрын
i believe so. Kubo mentioned in a Q&A about what will happen if hitsugaya hasn’t mastered his true bankai after the ice flowers fell, and he said “he will experience an imperfect growth disrupt and damage his own body during the transformation.”
@LethalxHeart
@LethalxHeart Жыл бұрын
@@typebbb this makes the most sense. Thank you for that clarification
@Classic_Glass_Bead
@Classic_Glass_Bead 10 ай бұрын
I remember in his fights with Harribel he mentioned something like worrying he couldn't control his full powers (at that time his incomplete bankai full powers) if he used Hyoten Hakkaso but fortunately he didn't need to worry about that anymore since his bankai was weakened due to the destruction of his petals. So I guess that was one of the hints that his bankai is incomplete
@zackconley5642
@zackconley5642 2 жыл бұрын
I always saw Hitsugaya as a perfect opposite to Yamamoto. Fire and ice, a natural calm person that experiences bits of anger, a naturally violent person that forces calm upon himself. And their Bankais seem to be equal if not Hitsugaya destined to surpass Yamamoto.
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 2 жыл бұрын
@raaam1
@raaam1 10 ай бұрын
Well said
@charger9912
@charger9912 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite character. Wish they focused on him more.
@ryanfeddeler2516
@ryanfeddeler2516 2 жыл бұрын
Let's gooooooo! Lets get 100k!!!!!
@noodlez4052
@noodlez4052 Жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya is my favorite captain so seeing him finally unleash his true self was an awesome sight. Can't wait till they get to get this part in the anime 👌
@ThatGUY666666
@ThatGUY666666 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kubo made a lot of his mistakes in his writing of the series, particularly in the latter arcs. However, I think the completed Daiguren Hyourinmaru was NOT one of them in my opinion. As Mr. Tommo pointed out it works with the hints being laid out about his Bankai being incomplete because of just how young he is compared to his colleagues and the hints laid out in the Arrancar arc and later during his fight with Harribel. Additionally, the fact the petals work as a time limit until he can no longer hold his Bankai back really works with his personality. At the start of the series he is probably one of the most benevolent of the Captains with only Ukitake and Kyoraku being more noble. Despite being utterly pissed, when he was about to fight Gin, he warned Izuru to run and told him to get at least 10 miles away so he wouldn't get caught up in the blast radius. And during his fight with Harribel we saw his Bankai was capable of manipulating the weather of an entire city. This indicates that in terms of raw destructive power his Bankai is likely second only to Yamamoto. Given his more benevolent nature it makes sense that he would suppress it to avoid killing innocent bystanders and his comrades. The craziest thing about it is that if I read the manga right, he STILL has not fully mastered his completed Bankai. But even with what little we saw I have no trouble believing Kyoraku was right and that in 100 years Hitsugaya will surpass him and once you surpass Kyoraku you enter the levels of Unohana, Kenpachi, Yamamoto, and Aizen.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
We know he did, the anime will fix things.
@afh7170
@afh7170 Жыл бұрын
Bro said UNOHANA get real bro 💀💀💀
@lemguins7031
@lemguins7031 2 жыл бұрын
When he said "You assume the flowers disappearing is my limit" or something along those lines, I thought back to all his fights and realized that he never actually stated that himself, and didn't feel like it was a fan service excuse dropped into the story or anything. His reluctancy to use the form change earlier might have just been that he knew it either would tire him quickly or because he'd cause to much collateral damage due to his inexperience with wielding his bankai in an appropriate form. He showed the same concern with other techniques in the past and not wanting to hurt allies.
@mysoulfairy
@mysoulfairy 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugaya takes too much pressure it's sweet how kuchki byakuya takes care of him he does not need to suffer but he rather did just to force his growth and he did this for others not just himself
@austinstewart284
@austinstewart284 2 жыл бұрын
100k!!! Man, I remember back we was in the low 3,000s. It’s so awesome seeing the subscriber number going up each month. You deserve it
@DigiplayW8
@DigiplayW8 2 жыл бұрын
I took it as, prior to fully mastering his bankai, if the flower petals went out, he would transform into the mature form, but his body couldn't handle the power that comes with the fully matured bankai. And that is the true reason he had to continuously practice with his bankai to finally get to the point in the end where after transformation he could handle it.
@GabrielGonzalez-mw9cg
@GabrielGonzalez-mw9cg 2 жыл бұрын
Man, i remember when this channel cracked 1000 subs. Now almost 100k, wow. Well done, keep'em coming.
@inozen3234
@inozen3234 Жыл бұрын
He has THE strongest ice type zanpaku-to like grandpa yama(fire type). He is the youngest captain and even got acknowledge by shunsui that he will surpassed him in 100 year or less. Like kenpachi, Hitsugaya is not on his full form yet he will become a monster like old man Yama in the future. WIth Hitsugaya personality, i can see him as a grumpy old man Commander of the whole 13 squad. Imagine Adult hitsugaya as the commander with the current Kenpachi is Zaraki with fully mastered of his own bankai? Aizen/ywach combine would get wrecked !! Well, unless Aizen devise a plan to seal both of their bankai like he did with old man yama(i can see that happen).
@simmytom7684
@simmytom7684 2 жыл бұрын
Let's get Tommo to 100k!!! I believe he's the best Bleach content creator on KZbin. He does his research, explains his findings in a thorough manner. He's only gonna get better.
@stnr247
@stnr247 2 жыл бұрын
Man 100k. I remember subbing at the beginning of the pandemic and it was only around 1k. Glad the channel is growing you put a lot of time and effort into these videos and it shows, congrats.
@edahnndlovu274
@edahnndlovu274 2 жыл бұрын
You've made it to 100000 subscribers - well done, you deserve that and more, your channel is amazing
@SpookyStu
@SpookyStu 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to be able to support your content, and I look forward to your channel when the anime drops.
@iSpEcKz--
@iSpEcKz-- 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite captain as soon as I saw him on screen 🤟 the more I saw the more he solidified his spot almost tied with Kenpachi
@wanted247ha8
@wanted247ha8 2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro is one of the most developed characters in Bleach who aren't Ichigo (ha even got a movie). It's weird that you would initially think this was fan service when he CONSTANTLY is shown using his bankai and trying to get better at it/using new moves almost every fight he is in. glad you came around though
@JohnGlow2
@JohnGlow2 2 жыл бұрын
This right here, its an argument alot of people will say when they say that his powers and showings are asspulls when outside of Ichigo himself, Toshiro is legitimately the only character we see actively training his powers throughout the course of the series. After his fight with Shawlong its implied that Soul society trained in preparation to deal with arrancars, so they were better prepared for Luppi and Yammy, after that scuffle they trained in preparation for the FKT battle, immediately after this fight you see him training in a cave to perfect his powers, Renji confirms that for the past 17 months they trained in order to combat Aizen, and you see his growth vs Yukio. And then after the first Quincy invasion he again trains his abilities to make up for the loss of bankai, and then i’m positive that post war arc he and everyone else resumed training. From the panel in the manga 20 years before the start of the series we get confirmation that he’s begun his training, and as soon as he achieves bankai he immediately moves up from third seat to captain, meaning that at the start of the series, Gin, Momo and the other liutenants arent familiar with him because he was literally just promoted, and from then on he does nothing but improve his abilities going forward. Definitely on the upper end of fleshed out characters for sure.
@sheelapaulin279
@sheelapaulin279 Жыл бұрын
True while some might see him regularly using bankai as him being insecure, I think it is actually the opposite. He doesn't use bankai to prove himself as evidenced by how he humbles himself to improve when he loses it. I think he knew that his bankai was incomplete so other than regular training he used those battles to train himself. Growth is faster when you have someone to compete with afterall. The other captains more or less have some mastery over bankai but toshiro does not so there is no reason he shouldn't regularly use it to improve just because others might see it as a sign of his insecurity. I really doubt he actually cares about what others think.
@ruthless1431
@ruthless1431 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite captain. Can't wait to see his adult form get animated.
@Abc123______
@Abc123______ Жыл бұрын
What’s even crazier is that he also has a hollow form stacked on top of all this that he doesn’t even access.
@ladrellhart2063
@ladrellhart2063 2 жыл бұрын
That new Bankai was the most hyped thing I ever seen him do. It went perfectly well with his new outfit too. I wonder if that's the new form it'll always take each time he uses it, also how will it look with soul ripper outfit.
@nyankahana6447
@nyankahana6447 2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro was never my favourite captain, but when he suddenly matured, I got goosebumps listening to 'Treachery' while reading. I only wish he stayed that way in the final chapters too
@reallyhimongod
@reallyhimongod 2 жыл бұрын
I even noticed as a teenager Kubo spent the most time on Toshiros bankai, everyone elses bankai even Ichigos felt second hand compared to Toshiro
@khililjones
@khililjones 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say if he's just becoming a adult to use his powers doesn't that mean he still has more to show like Yamamoto being the strongest type saying there are more stages and let's not forget half his power is cut because his sword was 2 originally unless he absorbed that power.
@cyborgmetal217
@cyborgmetal217 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you’ll see this but I just wanted to say thanks for all the bleach content. Bleach was the show that got me into anime and then as I grew up and got more involved with discussion boards I kind of thought I had to hate bleach to be taken seriously. But when the anime got announced for a return I got so hyped and looked for bleach content everywhere and I found this channel and have watched it ever since. Thanks for helping me fall in love with Bleach again! Congrats on nearly 100k subs!
@benjiago6800
@benjiago6800 2 жыл бұрын
YASSSSSS!! another one, omg i was just looking at your comments. thank you again tom!!
@itzSprrw
@itzSprrw 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about it from a maturity/power level. I think it would make sense that the wings are the power overflowing from him so when he is aged and can handle the full power of his bankai the wings aren’t needed.
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 2 жыл бұрын
It fits with his prodigy and the achievements he had way before joining Gotei 13. Great comeback given he was essentially dead.
@CardinalSinOfCake
@CardinalSinOfCake 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers! It's well deserved! It's been a pleasure to watch you grow and get the recognition you deserve. Your screen presence, delivery, expansive knowledge of Bleach, your passion, all of it draws people in. Whenever you put a new video out I know I'm not the only person to stop what I'm doing to watch. Thank you for all of your hard work. I look forward to watching you grow further!
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alexander, it's greatly appreciated :)
@ericm5315
@ericm5315 2 жыл бұрын
Personally; I like the dichotomy between Hitsu and Rukia. She controls cold which as a byproduct; creates ice while he creates ice which as a byproduct creates cold. Hitsu's mastery of cold absolutely pales in comparison to her mastery of cold while her mastery of ice pales in comparison to his and while they seemingly have similar results in bankai using totally different methods Rukia's bankai is absolutely broken once you understand what it actually does (stops molecules from moving, which is what Absolute Zero is).
@sukumuieywang8058
@sukumuieywang8058 2 жыл бұрын
I think her Bankai is even colder than absolute zero. Which I know makes zero sense scientifically, but think of it from a power scaling perspective. She could already utilize absolute zero temperatures in her shikai, albeit for a very short time. And As Nödt was able to overcome these temperatures in his base form. While, in bankai, Rukia creates a blast of frigid temperatures which flash freezes As Nödt in his Vollstandig form and instantly kills him. We can therefore infer that she reaches temperatures even lower than absolute zero because 1. The attack has an even shorter duration than her Shikai’s absolute zero, and 2. As Nödt was killed immediately whilst in a stronger form than the one capable of shrugging off absolute zero temperatures. Small nitpick on my part, but I feel it’s worth noting that her mastery over cold goes beyond what is even considered possible by real world physics.
@ricremricrem2221
@ricremricrem2221 2 жыл бұрын
@@sukumuieywang8058 Yeah I agree I mean both Rukia's mastery over cold and Toshiro's mastery of ice go way beyond what is physically possible in the real world. Rukia can go most likely way below absolute zero and Toshiro can use his ice to freeze energy (I am pretty sure that Gerad's bow that Toshiro froze was energy) so yeah no in terms of mastery over their perspective fields they are absolutely broken and will most likely surpass Yamamoto in power and as the "most powerful bankai" outside of Ichigo. These two would also make for an insane duo in battle as they would directly compliment each other. As of TYBW I think the strongest captains are Byakuya~Shisui~Toshiro then Kenny follwed by everyone else. In CFYOW I am pretty sure we are given a different order or we have at least Toshiro Byakuya and Kenny in the same ball park but IDK just cuz I have not read that part of the novels.
@sukumuieywang8058
@sukumuieywang8058 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricremricrem2221 I believe Toshiro specifically states when using Shikai Hyoketsu that by the time he takes 4 steps, all matter in front of him freezes. So I guess that Reishi constructs are considered matter, but energy is also a form of matter too. I’m not sure I agree with the statement that they’re likely to surpass Yamamoto given that his Bankai was ungodly strong, and Toshiro couldn’t even use his abilities while nowhere near it. But then again he does have over a millennium more experience. So I guess it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility, but it certainly wouldn’t happen for hundreds of years.
@Redhollow
@Redhollow 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more accurate to say that Toshiro controls moisture itself. All moisture in the air is under his control, as he stated in his fight against Halibel.
@ericm5315
@ericm5315 2 жыл бұрын
@@sukumuieywang8058 You're right; for Rukia to flash freeze in bankai; she'd have to reach temperatures lower than absolute zero. Absolute zero isn't instant so imo it makes sense that As Nodt could break out of it before he freezes solid and why Byakuya could touch Rukia without instantly freezing as she was deactivating her bankai. It's a pretty broken ability and her pool of spiritual energy is her only limiting factor. I hope we get to see her let loose in the new hell arc.
@HeyLookItsBruno
@HeyLookItsBruno 2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro is one of my favorite captains simply for the fact that we have the same birthday.
@Sienna1919
@Sienna1919 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you to do a full video on my favorite frosty boy 😌
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoyed it :)
@dozywolf9200
@dozywolf9200 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love Kubo’s art style😍
@xPepe1310
@xPepe1310 Жыл бұрын
toshiro, zaraki and byakuya is the best trio
@ghis8482
@ghis8482 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite character all time. Love his adult form
@holyarchangelmichael
@holyarchangelmichael 2 жыл бұрын
I like Hitsugaya's completed Bankai more now than I did when the chapter was first released. I wasn't a huge fan of it at first, but I grew to like it more over time. Also, I think Hitsugaya would be old enough to handle his completed Bankai 100 years after the end of Bleach. That makes sense to me, given Kyorakuo's comment about Hitsugaya possibly being able to surpass him in 100 years.
@mathuasher9184
@mathuasher9184 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a newer sub. I followed Bleach for years and years. I love it. But the Blood War is the main story I haven't experienced at all. Save for this channel I haven't been exposed to Adult Hitsugiya all. So this is crazy interesting to me.
@aizensouske3098
@aizensouske3098 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, it really was something planned with his bankai from the very beginning according to kubo in Klub outside. And as always very good character video
@芦白龙
@芦白龙 2 жыл бұрын
Hitsugagya was involved in a fight when he was protecting one of the free souls outside of soul society, he hit his head during the battle and lost his memory, a family tended to him and gave him the name Gintoki, he kept his skill, but lost his Bankai
@Karol-pz5bi
@Karol-pz5bi 2 жыл бұрын
I fckng knew it i called it, when his flowers run out of time he becomes powerful, HOLYSHT im so happy rn
@evendrag6302
@evendrag6302 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100k man! All the subs youve recieved this year is incredible, and well deserved! Keep up the amazing content!
@cronoluminara6911
@cronoluminara6911 2 жыл бұрын
His Banki always made me think of ocarina of time how he aged up to use the power
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah or Asriel Dreemurr, in Hyperdeath, but they look crazy similar in terms of being white haired lookers.
@Mrclosebutnocigar1
@Mrclosebutnocigar1 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k
@reesejackson5935
@reesejackson5935 2 жыл бұрын
Hyorinmaru and zabimaru are the best parts of the zanpakto rebellion arc imo
@seanprice9626
@seanprice9626 2 жыл бұрын
Bro congrats on 100k this is just crazy. You had like 5k subs last like January. You deserve it! Keep up the good work man.
@n.349
@n.349 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so so so much for all the fantastic content. Cheers from Montana my brother
@sethmo9
@sethmo9 2 жыл бұрын
I find toshiro saying he doesn't really like this form is reminiscent of Minato saying he's not very good at sage mode, despite being a perfect sage and toshiro looking badass, I think it's said as a way to say "this is why I've never used it before until now" to avoid any plot holes
@Crunchysopa52
@Crunchysopa52 2 жыл бұрын
It always reminded me of the Minato line too lol.
@deus0rcinus889
@deus0rcinus889 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Toshiro doesn't like the older form of his Bankai shows in his Bankai (if that makes sense?)
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
And then you have Asriel, in Undertale, just loving his godly form, similar to Aizen, since they feel similar always think that after getting into Bleach.
@haziq3595
@haziq3595 Жыл бұрын
What minato saying is literal , he take a lot of time to gather natural energy
@RGA301092
@RGA301092 Жыл бұрын
@@haziq3595 Yes. Minato is only a Perfect Sage in the sense that he can balance the natural energy with his Chakra perfectly. Beyond that, the time it takes to gather said natural energy (at least several minutes, if Madara's whole monolog is any indication) and the time he can maintain the state (a few seconds, if that) are so long and short respectively that it's nigh-useless in combat, which leads to his lack of actual combat experience in that state.
@OkRoomer123-
@OkRoomer123- 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k man. You're videos are amazing
@BigLove91
@BigLove91 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers well deserved can’t wait for more bleach content
@clemenx
@clemenx 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool we have MrTommo character development as well😄 I think we all rolled our eyes when we first read the chapter too haha
@MANIACC1010
@MANIACC1010 Жыл бұрын
Actually Ichigo's bankai got destroyed and can never be recovered.. so we won't see Tensa Zangetsu (the version we're used to that is) anymore but when his sword is reforged we will see a brand new bankai from Ichigo. Don't know whether to be excited or sadd😭😭
@MANIACC1010
@MANIACC1010 Жыл бұрын
@user-gy1lg6hl6c Stupid? Nahh I'm just stating facts. Ichigo got his sword broken during the first invasion of the soul society while in a bankai state. If you watch bleach you'd know that if your sword gets broken while in bankai state it could never be repaired again. Which is why Ichigo had to go to the soul palace in the first place. Ughh🤦🏾‍♂️
@bepo1702
@bepo1702 Жыл бұрын
the old one was fodder though. The one he just got in the anime is his true bankai, his true zanpakuto. He's currently using the power he should have had all along
@bepo1702
@bepo1702 Жыл бұрын
his bankai is still tensa zangetsu, but it's the real deal this time
@MANIACC1010
@MANIACC1010 Жыл бұрын
@@bepo1702 true but his newer one will include his full capacity as a shinigami Quincy and hollow...
@bepo1702
@bepo1702 Жыл бұрын
@@MANIACC1010 its a shame we never got to see what it does honestly
@jakecurtis4243
@jakecurtis4243 2 жыл бұрын
Since the reveal I always assumed his bankai was a kin too ikakuu's. "Lazy... Takes a while to wake up". I just thought his flowers were the same as ikakuu's dragon, a timer. In fact if you look back that makes a lot of sense in certain perspective, Kubo "foreshadowed" it even if he didn't know how he was going to end his story. Just a thought
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 жыл бұрын
Ikkaku's Dragon isn't a timer, as you can see him waking it up most of the way just by whipping it around, while before it was taking a longer time.
@deanoor9391
@deanoor9391 2 жыл бұрын
Toshiro has always been one of my top 5 favorite characters and when he got his adult form my hype for him went up exponentially Sure he may not be the strongest character or whatever the case but he's dope regardless
@Zangyaks
@Zangyaks 2 жыл бұрын
Who is your top 5? He doesn’t make my top 10.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 2 жыл бұрын
He’s quite attractive to god imagine his voice in the anime huuuuhhhh especially the dub.
@TheNuclearGeek
@TheNuclearGeek 2 жыл бұрын
The purpose of his petals actually stayed the same throughout the entire story. They didn't function as a timer so much as they functioned similarly to the dragon crest on Ikkaku's Bankai - a gauge to be filled. Once "filled", Hitsugaya's true Bankai would be released at it's considerably higher power level. Earlier in the series, Hitsugaya was concerned with this occurring because he was unable to control his Bankai at it's higher power level. He wasn't mature enough or experienced enough to wield it's full power. Whether this would have been displayed as his Bankai releasing or more serious repercussions, we'll of course never know, but no matter the result it would have been disastrous for it to do so in the middle of battle. Therefore, it was only natural to stick to the reliability of the diminished version. This interpretation also solves a common issue/complaint that could sometimes be thrown at Kubo - the inconsistency of speed at which Hitsugaya's petals would crumble. Since most people often interpreted the petals as a timer, naturally some people felt it was a case of plot armor that his petals sometimes disintegrated at different rates. However, if it's a gauge based on energy accumulated or something similar, it's natural that rate of disintegration would be inconsistent and even controllable to at least some degree. At the end of the series, Hitsugaya had trained enough and was experienced enough to control his Bankai at the higher level. However, his "vessel", his body, was physically too small to contain the higher power level. So, his Bankai modifies his vessel to a suitable size. His "gauge" is still performing the same function, however, the accumulated energy is utilized to modify his body and Bankai to their higher energy levels. The only danger he likely faces at this point is accumulating energy too quickly (due to his training level and experience) for his young body to adjust to fast enough, which wasn't an issue when he was less experienced. So, rather than be hamstrung by a Bankai he can no longer control after a certain point, he's hamstrung by being forced to fight at lower level than he is capable until it's ready.
@odieony7007
@odieony7007 2 жыл бұрын
spot on
@TheNuclearGeek
@TheNuclearGeek 2 жыл бұрын
@@odieony7007 Thanks! I think people got too caught up in the timer red hearing to ever think of it as anything else.
@vongola11thboss67
@vongola11thboss67 2 жыл бұрын
First time catching a video right when it's uploaded.
@Eaglesman3620
@Eaglesman3620 2 жыл бұрын
Alright 3 videos in just about a weeks time! Awesome job man really good video. I didn't know too much about the adult form so it's good to get a little extra info before the anime comes out. Best of luck on the final 5k
@mr.r9390
@mr.r9390 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I instantly subscribed 2 seconds in after hearing your voice
@benbaker4198
@benbaker4198 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I remember when u had less then 10k of subscribers glad your channel is growing so fast
@youngglorrd
@youngglorrd 2 жыл бұрын
Well done bro. Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers. Hopefully your videos get more and more exposure because there amazing.
@spum789
@spum789 Жыл бұрын
I think in the same way Yamamotos bankai could burn EVERYTHING, Hitsugaiyas Bankai can freeze EVERYTHING.
@Sixs_Sense
@Sixs_Sense 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on almost 100k
@Chillgamesh
@Chillgamesh 2 жыл бұрын
The wings and the shinigami adult form is also in jump force of all things
@carloskingdomh
@carloskingdomh Жыл бұрын
his new power really ties with everything he said about the flowers it was amazing
@richterkennedy2101
@richterkennedy2101 2 жыл бұрын
All right you got me. Congratulations on 100,000. You’ve earned it. Subscribed
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@ryleybk2316
@ryleybk2316 2 жыл бұрын
OMG YOURE ALMOST AT 100k subscribers!! keep it up man, love your videos! 🤩
@AkiraMugen
@AkiraMugen 2 жыл бұрын
I think he doesn't like the form cause it makes him taller. He wants to be taller not made taller because of his bankai. He wants to be naturally taller.
@jmisfit1304
@jmisfit1304 2 жыл бұрын
I Always enjoy your videos man. Truly looking forward to watching this
@EmoChipmonkVOD
@EmoChipmonkVOD Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why he wouldnt like his older form is because its a huge difference from how he naturally is. Hes older and his physical stature is totally different. I imagine it feels rather unnatural or out of place because he dosnt spend much time like that.
@mastertucker
@mastertucker 2 жыл бұрын
Imagining that Hyorinmaru is probably the strongest Ice type Zanpakuto like Ryujin Jakka is the strongest Fire type, plus the young age meaning naturally he'll be like one of the longest lasting Shinigami - so just like imagine what if eons down the line an adult/even middle age looking Hitsugaya becoming the next Captain Commander after Shunsui just having this fully mastered and just uber OP most powerful ice type Zanpakuto having Captain Commander Hitsugaya.
@Maxjuliann
@Maxjuliann 2 жыл бұрын
Adult hitsugaya gonna steal everyone girl when he’s animated
@ryanchan9392
@ryanchan9392 2 жыл бұрын
Get this man to 100k. Keep the grind up!
@beatsbygotu9655
@beatsbygotu9655 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos and I am a big bleach fan and looking forward to the anime adaptation I read the Manga and man there are so.many questions! Thank you for clearing up and then leaving more questions to be answered 😆 that's why I love it
@KingDues
@KingDues 2 жыл бұрын
That 100k is on the horizon 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🔥🔥🔥
@Elite_Trainer
@Elite_Trainer 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100k subs Keep the Bleach content coming and soon it will be 1M
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@Elite_Trainer 2 жыл бұрын
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@navneetthapa98
@navneetthapa98 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats for 100k
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 2 жыл бұрын
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