The Concord Story Gets WORSE

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SpectreBull

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@spectrebull
@spectrebull Ай бұрын
CORRECTION: Hermen Hulst did not direct Killzone: Liberation. Take at wild guess what type of directing role he had on that game...
@BadlyPlaying
@BadlyPlaying Ай бұрын
Qa?
@pomurain
@pomurain Ай бұрын
so basically he's even LESS qualified to be the co-ceo of playstation
@dominicnordquidst5025
@dominicnordquidst5025 Ай бұрын
@@pomurainwhat did he do anyway
@shooey-mcmoss
@shooey-mcmoss Ай бұрын
Herman Ghorst
@h8GW
@h8GW Ай бұрын
Someone explain to me what a "managing director" does.
@LloydTheZephyrian
@LloydTheZephyrian Ай бұрын
"This is Concord." _"Dear God..."_ "There's more." _"Noooo..."_
@spectrebull
@spectrebull Ай бұрын
I got that reference. I love it.
@LloydTheZephyrian
@LloydTheZephyrian Ай бұрын
@justsomeguypostingmemes1170 I'm not your brother, dude. Don't assume that everyone follows your faith, because I certainly don't believe in what you believe.
@PallyKalhi
@PallyKalhi Ай бұрын
​@justsomeguypostingmemes1170 impressive levels of cringe
@Mitsoxfan
@Mitsoxfan Ай бұрын
​@justsomeguypostingmemes1170 even Jeebus wouldn't play this game.
@the_letter_5579
@the_letter_5579 Ай бұрын
“It contains the budget of at least 400 million dollars”
@Sercil00
@Sercil00 Ай бұрын
It costs 400 million dollars to run this game... for twelve days.
@evanthesquirrel
@evanthesquirrel Ай бұрын
Somebody played my game. WHO PLAYED CONCORD?
@bullatognya5480
@bullatognya5480 Ай бұрын
Lmao
@f687sNFM
@f687sNFM Ай бұрын
No, it costed 400 mil to make it, it costed millions a day to run it
@anrgyauburn6723
@anrgyauburn6723 Ай бұрын
It’s a reference joke
@Sercil00
@Sercil00 Ай бұрын
@@anrgyauburn6723 If the numbers line up this nicely, can you blame me?
@Typhoonfloyd
@Typhoonfloyd Ай бұрын
Titanic costed $7.5 million in 1912 ($198 million today), RMS Titanic started her service life on 02 april and sank in 15 april. So we have a game that costed twice as much as titanic and lasted 1 day less than titanic did.
@TheDarkPeasant
@TheDarkPeasant Ай бұрын
Perfect comment to find right after visiting the Titanic museum lol
@Marlonbc90
@Marlonbc90 Ай бұрын
Concord is the Simpsons episode where Homer designs a car
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 Ай бұрын
😂 made me laugh but, man, Homer's car is kinda cool, oi
@Marlonbc90
@Marlonbc90 Ай бұрын
@@onemoregodrejected9369 yeah, it's funny, but I didn't mean it solely as a joke. Remember the phone call between the engineer and Homer's brother? That's exactly what happened here, blind ideology and "toxic positivity"
@spectrebull
@spectrebull Ай бұрын
@@Marlonbc90 At least it got us the best car in Hit & Run. Thing drives like a freakin tank!
@xyzern7
@xyzern7 Ай бұрын
one of the most popular color combos ever, orange and blue, and they fuck it up by adding baby puke green. There is a reason why color theory exists lol
@AmaryInkawult
@AmaryInkawult Ай бұрын
Tumblr users don't believe in color theory.
@aliensounddigital8729
@aliensounddigital8729 Ай бұрын
White and orange is better with blue as a thin accent.
@thebighoney9034
@thebighoney9034 Ай бұрын
@@aliensounddigital8729 Tracer From Overwatch. Naruto's/ Minato's Hokage design from Naruto. Many more cases
@MrMaskYT
@MrMaskYT Ай бұрын
@@thebighoney9034 Goku too
@Vespyr_
@Vespyr_ Ай бұрын
Slightly lesser extent but Genos from OPM is also White/Black, with Orange Accents in his Fire Abilities and Blue Trim. Displaying how a character's powers can be a huge part of the color in their design.
@nadtz
@nadtz Ай бұрын
I can understand Firewalk putting themselves in an echo chamber and not listening to feedback that was critical, I think most people who have been following news around this game have figured that part out by now. I'd love to know how Sony sucked themselves so happily into this mess though, I get that they are chasing the live service trend (arguably too late) but how did they misjudge this so badly that they basically threw away $400m + whatever they spent on Firewalk? It will be interesting to see if/what heads at Sony roll in addition to whatever happens to Firewalk in the near future as this level of failure can't be blamed on Firewalk alone like you said.
@evandaymon8303
@evandaymon8303 Ай бұрын
It's because of Jim Ryan and what you said chasing live service they were too blinded by success of overwatch (and it's eventually downfall) that they believe that hey we could surpass them and become the newest hot ticket item. They soon find out now with recent events with them cutting back on their live service plans and cancelling games that this was way too much and the bus station they were going to take to success closed down reopen as a fast food restaurant that also closed down. Aka signs that live service is as hated as loot boxes and microtransactions and battle passes. It already pass them and they went in too late
@sh-zs4oy
@sh-zs4oy Ай бұрын
What if they just used this to test politica of gaming?
@OneKaleidoscope3812
@OneKaleidoscope3812 Ай бұрын
Sony echo chambers aren’t a good thing. they’re why we make fun of ponys tbh lol but remember how “terrible” starfeild was? i have 31 days played on that. They tried to review bomb it lmao. but i enjoyed that game more then Concord was alive. these sony dudes really playing spiderman or horizon story mode over and over again still to this day? nah. no chance.
@amaxwell7333
@amaxwell7333 Ай бұрын
Sounds like to me the people at the top of firewalk are liberals. As liberals in my experience generally don't like to be criticized and hear objective truth and closed themselves off creating an echo chamber of their own making.
@larsfinlay7325
@larsfinlay7325 Ай бұрын
Money laundering.
@tobedone4079
@tobedone4079 Ай бұрын
400 Million US Dollars? And 8 years of development? Even if it were just another "Hero Shooter", that's insane.
@Primarch19th
@Primarch19th Ай бұрын
Money laundering? Some people made million of dollars , with no accountability.
@NotAGreatPlayer
@NotAGreatPlayer Ай бұрын
it honestly really wasn't "another hero shooter", but they did fuck up bad with this game, shame since the gameplay had potential
@fable23
@fable23 Ай бұрын
That speaks to a truly vast amount of carelessness and ignorance, along with vast amounts of work being done and discarded as they tried (and ultimately failed) to "find" the game. Either that, or some good old fashioned embezzlement.
@mantra-hf6ej
@mantra-hf6ej Ай бұрын
the credits are over an hour long
@ML-dk7bf
@ML-dk7bf Ай бұрын
@@Primarch19th I would actually respect them more if it was just money laundering. I don't think there competent enough to have done that.
@victorochoa3662
@victorochoa3662 Ай бұрын
Looking back, Fallout 76 was nowhere near as bad as this, and that set the bar of failure for a while.
@JOJO-Bub
@JOJO-Bub Ай бұрын
Honestly somewhat debatable. The actual gameplay of Conchord is while bland and off putting at times is pretty passable. While launch day Fallout 76 was basically a broken mess at the best of the days.
@pptemplar5840
@pptemplar5840 Ай бұрын
Yeah, they are both collosal fuck ups. But entirely different fuck ups. FO76 was trying to do something everyone desired, and cocked it up tremendously. Concord did exactly what it wanted to, arguably VERY well, but the trouble is practically speaking nobody outside of the devs had a desire for what it was trying to do. But FO76 survived and at least in some ways inarguably improved. If there is any lesson an aspiring creative can take from this comparison, it's that if you're making a game for a market, it is decidedly better to make something people actually want poorly, than to expend significant time and effort to make something nobody wants with extreme polish. You can't make a successful game for market while simultaneously blatantly ignoring the desires of people that make up that market, and that's exactly what kind of pipe dream Concord was trying to pull off and it was destined for failure.
@juamu1132
@juamu1132 Ай бұрын
@@pptemplar5840 fallout 76 servers will be closing down.
@andrewkelley9405
@andrewkelley9405 Ай бұрын
This failure is akin to the ET collapse of the 1980s, long before most people watching this video (myself included) even existed.
@ulfberht4431
@ulfberht4431 Ай бұрын
As bad as Concord was in its failure, at least they didn’t swindle their customers with a fake duffle bag made from cheap nylon and then acted like the resources for real duffle bags weren’t easily available when they were.
@chasebh89
@chasebh89 Ай бұрын
modern games feel like theyre made based on whoever has the most buzzwords in their investor meeting
@GrumpyIan
@GrumpyIan Ай бұрын
Not only that Sweet baby Inc has been known to take the higher-ups to these companies to stuff like dinner and basically put them into an arm lock situation to have them do character design / writing or else they'll be viewed as a racist/ etc...
@samaw5112
@samaw5112 Ай бұрын
Skin-forward cloud economy. Live service generative AI royale. Procedurally immersive shooterlike.
@Mitsoxfan
@Mitsoxfan Ай бұрын
​@@GrumpyIan because nothing says DEI like rich white men being told what DEI is and then shoving some perversion of that down everyone's throat.
@woodhidh
@woodhidh Ай бұрын
Or whichever buzzwords have the most impact
@miserirken
@miserirken Ай бұрын
Looking at Dustborn...
@glitch200
@glitch200 Ай бұрын
How the hell can it get any worse?! We already hit the bottom of the damn mariana's trench, have they started digging?!
@captaincrunch1707
@captaincrunch1707 Ай бұрын
Haven Studios releases FairGame$ next , which is a pay day type pvpVE gaas. It’s unknown if that’s gonna be $40 or f2p. Then Bungie’s Marathon pvp extraction shooter launches at $40.
@RamdomView
@RamdomView Ай бұрын
It could be revealed that there was a secret cult involved. Or that Firewalk and Concord were a front for money laundering.
@heyj64
@heyj64 Ай бұрын
“You cannot fix a problem that you refuse to acknowledge.” ― Margaret Heffernan, Willful Blindness: Why We Ignore the Obvious at Our Peril
@kyosokutai
@kyosokutai Ай бұрын
Anyone else weirded out that the Concord logo is just a shredded Konami logo
@salivatinggreed4219
@salivatinggreed4219 Ай бұрын
Omg that's why it looked familiar
@d.t.6072
@d.t.6072 Ай бұрын
You're right, damn it is. I had to Google it and they added yellow, but it's the exact same logo otherwise. 😲
@ZX-Gear
@ZX-Gear Ай бұрын
Wow. Someone get HBomberGuy to actually make an essay on legit plagiarism.
@mauricioaguilera3194
@mauricioaguilera3194 Ай бұрын
The fact that we could have had multiple games like Astrobot instead of the waste of money that was Concord, is what it truly hurts
@AmaryInkawult
@AmaryInkawult Ай бұрын
I almost broke my Sony Boycott to get Astrobot. But then Concord reminded me of every fucked decision they pulled, including the censorship. Still Sony Free.
@MarcLucksch
@MarcLucksch Ай бұрын
They could have made another Gravity Rush.. or maybe it was better they never get a chance to ruin that franchise
@El1te2557
@El1te2557 Ай бұрын
We could've had an infamous and prototype cross over but nope
@chris_player2995
@chris_player2995 Ай бұрын
"it gets worse" HOW
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim Ай бұрын
Toxic work culture where creativity is reprimanded and ass kissing is rewarded. You'll have ptsd if you worked with these people.
@danael0089
@danael0089 Ай бұрын
@@stellviahohenheim Fr i mean...Just look the new NFS Unbound or COD Vanguard...Nearly destroying their franchise
@haramsaddam238
@haramsaddam238 Ай бұрын
400 million is more than it took to build the industrial park I was working at
@bloodyidit4506
@bloodyidit4506 Ай бұрын
Jesus christ
@MrMaskYT
@MrMaskYT Ай бұрын
you would build a small town with 400 Million
@elecman748
@elecman748 Ай бұрын
You could potentially save a poor country with 400 millions
@darthgamer9861
@darthgamer9861 Ай бұрын
you could also simply give it to me, I promise I’ll put it to good use and not do anything crazy, like buy Rhode Island and thus acquire the rights to Kingdoms of Amalur.
@boiledbread
@boiledbread Ай бұрын
If I had that amount of money, I would use 95% of it and make a sequel for John Carter with most of the original cast
@duskworker8469
@duskworker8469 Ай бұрын
the weirdest part about concord to me is how violence is treated. like, none of these people seem like they would gun each other down in real life. none of the animations reflect intentions of violence. that's what the game is. violence has been game-ified to a point of not holding any weight in Concord. TF2 kept it real in many many ways. Concord is divorced from reality in too many ways.
@mr.m6522
@mr.m6522 Ай бұрын
Games these days are too safe and treat players like children. Using your example, tf2 has actual revenge mechanics and incentivizes 1v1 player duels, laughs at the player at refusing and has achievement related to taunting and shit talking. That was a game that actually felt like it was made for a mature audience
@delsin1126
@delsin1126 Ай бұрын
Look at Deadlock. The alpha that is Invite Only btw managed to have a massive player base in comparison to Concord. The alpha got its art style and fun gameplay out and it got people hyped. Concord came out and died faster than scams like The Day Before. For nearly half a billion dollars they spent on this. I don’t know why.
@slayer4501
@slayer4501 Ай бұрын
"Never told No" is the keyword, thats how you know these game developers and ceo's have never been told no all their lives, either that or theyre on a villan arc right now
@USArmy31
@USArmy31 Ай бұрын
The comment of “Talentless Freaks” was actually meant for the studio right? It can’t have been for us, the community, right? 😂😂
@You-Know-Youre-Right
@You-Know-Youre-Right Ай бұрын
lmaoooooooo
@HandOn-c40009
@HandOn-c40009 Ай бұрын
It take talent to spend 400 mil and 8 year and got no profit at all
@AmaryInkawult
@AmaryInkawult Ай бұрын
Yeah, half of the gamers are also developers who create smaller games and mods. That's way more talented than the bland cast Concord got
@USArmy31
@USArmy31 Ай бұрын
@@HandOn-c40009 that is very true. Good thing the director that was in charge of this mess wasn’t part of any illegal organization. He’d be dead right now for losing that much money.
@magnuskallas
@magnuskallas Ай бұрын
DEI is talentless woke freakshow. That is a fact. Look at them lgbtq antifa blm faces. Look at BlackRock politics.
@shreksnow1918
@shreksnow1918 Ай бұрын
Herman Hulst is definitely a case of being promoted out of usefulness. He was great at managing smaller projects, but had HORRIBLE judgement when it comes to what will and won’t sell. It’s kind of like how Emil Pagliarulo was a phenomenal quest designer who made Oblivion’s Knights of the 9 and Dark Brotherhood quest lines, but is a TERRIBLE writer as evidenced by Starfield.
@captaincrunch1707
@captaincrunch1707 Ай бұрын
Exactly , he’s more in a creative decision making mode than just managing/directing a set of creatives who’ve already formed the games’s vision. Now , he’s been tasked with choosing creative direction and his decisions look horrendous. I could see Jim Ryan & Sony Japan trusting Herman & his staff with helping pick creative direction. In this scenerio, even Sony Japan or the board members are not too good at their job/culture as well. This may take years for the actually talented people to fix this mess
@bullatognya5480
@bullatognya5480 Ай бұрын
Though possible, I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that someone can be so unimaginably blind to think that abomination of a game could interest anybody
@MrHocotateFreight
@MrHocotateFreight Ай бұрын
Concord sold less than E.T for the atari Oh yeah, it's THAT bad.
@TheBahamutable
@TheBahamutable Ай бұрын
I hate that I am old enough to remember atari lol. But that should go down in the guiness book of records for sure
@iliketurtoises
@iliketurtoises Ай бұрын
@@TheBahamutableOld enough? I’m 17 and I used to play Atari too 😭
@TheBahamutable
@TheBahamutable Ай бұрын
@@iliketurtoises Hey man, pong went hard haha
@thenatron6136
@thenatron6136 Ай бұрын
60 times less
@foxymetroid
@foxymetroid 15 күн бұрын
And the Arari 2600 had a significantly smaller user base, could only be bought is stores (no Internet to download from), and each cartridge cost significantly more when you adjust for inflation.
@shreksnow1918
@shreksnow1918 Ай бұрын
Sony being delusional enough to think that Overwatch/Guardians of the Galaxy from Temu could be the next Star Wars (they certainly got their Star Wars. Concord was their Sequel Trilogy/Acolyte🤣) isn’t surprising. I mean we’re talking about the same people who were gaslit by social media into rereleasing Morbius into theaters, where it inevitably flopped again😂. What shocks me is how it’s possible for Concord to cost 400 million to make. Even the lower estimates of 100-200 mil didn’t make any sense for what little the game offers you. Also, when they say that ex-Bungie people made the game which Bungie are we talking about? Is it the Bungie who made Marathon, Myth 1/2, and Halo; or the Bungie who made Destiny, shut down Sony’s potentially viable live service games, and worked with casinos to make their monetization system mirror gambling? Let’s hope that when Sony inevitably gets hacked again we get answers to all these questions🤣
@Bopperann
@Bopperann Ай бұрын
Teams of all “yes-men” ruin art. There NEEDS to be someone to say, “I don’t care if it’s your baby, it doesn’t work.”
@Boomer04888
@Boomer04888 Ай бұрын
I'm all for silly, goofy, cartoonish characters but set in these environments with realistic textures, it just looks bizarre. Nothing is quite as jarring to me in these clips than when you see the giant yellow washing machine waltz into frame wearing a fucking loincloth and shooting his poorly animated "vacuum" beam everywhere
@Frustratedartist2
@Frustratedartist2 Ай бұрын
Goddamn the Bob Dylan anecdote made me cringe *physically*
@spectrebull
@spectrebull Ай бұрын
@@Frustratedartist2 I mean, thats what happened. People seem to forget all the crap that happened with Anthem, and the way Sony supposedly talked about Concord is the same talk BioWare was pulling back in 2018.
@Frustratedartist2
@Frustratedartist2 Ай бұрын
​@@spectrebull Yes, I totally believe it, just, these genres are not my usual genres so I never heard of this Dylan crap. Actually, I'm a professional translator, and I've made a lot of marketing translations for Concord crap, and it seemed to me like "just another Fortnite clone for middle schoolers", but then, I suddenly found myself translating the "we're closing our servers", which was so strange and got me watching dozens of KZbin video to understand what it was all about. I'd say, bad character designs, ridiculous price tag, woke elements that gamers seem to dislike a lot, and very snobby developers. Still it doesn't look THAT MUCH worse a game than Overwatch to me.
@jaegermonster9549
@jaegermonster9549 Ай бұрын
It's so bizarre to see an echo chamber so resilient and deep seated it has infected an entire game studio full of pros into committing the most fundamental mistakes in design. Stuff you learn about in your first classes in any basic design course..!
@jessycruz2465
@jessycruz2465 Ай бұрын
Funny thing is that sony has a lot of cool dormant ip's that they can resurrect, like jak and daxter, wild arms, sly cooper, socom, resistance, twisted metal. These game might fail but I doubt it will still be as bad as concord did.
@excalibur493
@excalibur493 Ай бұрын
Isn't Twisted Metal a vehicle vs vehicle type of series? ... that might make for a sick battle royale of 30-50 people.
@andersonjunior4529
@andersonjunior4529 Ай бұрын
@@excalibur493 now that you say that, Twisted metal would be perfect for a moba game, you could give each character a different car and ability and make a game as service out of a franchise people love instead of this...
@excalibur493
@excalibur493 Ай бұрын
@@andersonjunior4529 Exactly! Like how Nintendo did with F-Zero 99. They say it's a battle royale, but it's really just the same ol racing game with 100 people.
@aavon2316
@aavon2316 Ай бұрын
Best money laundering method. Or not.
@DrakeHunter324
@DrakeHunter324 Ай бұрын
ESG will bail them out, the fact this garbage keeps landing on lawns means somebody's paying them.
@f687sNFM
@f687sNFM Ай бұрын
Massive egos and an echo chamber? They thought their game was perfect, to be perfect is to stagnate, and to stagnate is death
@fivespy207
@fivespy207 Ай бұрын
Smart fella over here
@asceticblur
@asceticblur Ай бұрын
Sony had the golden path right in front of them with the soulsborne games and God of War. Amazing, innovative challenging games that define their own genres. But Alas it seems no development studio can refrain from releasing some fps, hero shooter, battle royale etc...piece of garbage because they believe they're making Fortnite. Hopefully Sony learned its lesson.
@Tstormer
@Tstormer Ай бұрын
Exactly I went to art school The first thing they teach you is how to critique yourself and your peers and you literally had to sit there and find shit wrong with other people's stuff even if you liked it The fact they're trying to do the give everybody a participation trophy shit in a game that cost millions of dollars instead of critiquing it is insane
@matthewirizarry8467
@matthewirizarry8467 Ай бұрын
Not being told "No" is basically all these peoples' problems in life in general.
@SeraphArmaros
@SeraphArmaros Ай бұрын
"The future of PlayStation" seems terribly accurate looking at what's coming next.
@noblecommando4269
@noblecommando4269 Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="230">3:50</a> "if you think everything you make is great 100% of the time it's not" Joseph Staten
@kalvon
@kalvon Ай бұрын
Dude, that money could've given to me.
@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude Ай бұрын
Serious question: How on earth did they even spend this much money??? Even if they would pay 100 people a wage of 10k a month for 8 years it only adds up to about 10M$. Seriously where did the money go???
@nana-wv3wk
@nana-wv3wk Ай бұрын
that’s what i’m asking myself too…
@elecman748
@elecman748 Ай бұрын
DEI auditings is really expensive, like, *REALLY EXPENSIVE*
@mantra-hf6ej
@mantra-hf6ej Ай бұрын
the credits are over an hour long so its more like paying thousands of people a wage of 10k monthly. Add in operational costs, licensing costs, bad management, and the little they did spend on marketing and you receive a game that has ballooned in costs like this one has.
@likaner1
@likaner1 Ай бұрын
@@mantra-hf6ejGod that sounds like a nightmare. Constantly turning over people and new staff having to pick up where the former left off, no communication between the two either. Games/movies have always been designed as team-based projects, I guess they found a way to turn that into 9-5 shift work and it’s not working.
@mantra-hf6ej
@mantra-hf6ej Ай бұрын
@@likaner1 honestly its probably a more common practice than you would imagine. I know bethesda is also guilty of this which is why they retcon so much between titles.
@mk9127
@mk9127 Ай бұрын
Honestly bro this was a fantastic video. No music no “I’m the mad gamer booo hoooo” just straight facts and opinions.
@TurtleMan2023
@TurtleMan2023 Ай бұрын
Every time a live service game dies, an angel gets its wings
@saky23s
@saky23s Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="533">8:53</a> the video came to a complete stop so the dude could rage on some haters 😂
@MrManueldx
@MrManueldx Ай бұрын
Yeah I was really into the video but that rant was really cringe
@joenuts88
@joenuts88 Ай бұрын
@@MrManueldxi know right. Hate is everywhere and just a part of yt. Mentioning it will only make more
@charliefckinmarr1188
@charliefckinmarr1188 Ай бұрын
Sad... i wanted to play so bad as the purple haired gremlin, the old asian grandma and the yellow trash can 😂❤
@brenton2561
@brenton2561 Ай бұрын
Those actually sound pretty cool
@onetokatman7293
@onetokatman7293 Ай бұрын
​@@brenton2561really makes it sound positive. 😂
@rustyjones7908
@rustyjones7908 Ай бұрын
​@@brenton2561 in the hands of a competent design studio, it would be.
@asddsa28
@asddsa28 Ай бұрын
This looks like a game that investors wanted like it had all the things they wanted. It was so bland because it had to be appealed to everyone. I think people saw what happened in 2020 with games are like oh we can make some real money. The investor said look at this game. It’s everything we want.
@theduck4482
@theduck4482 Ай бұрын
Im just gonna go and just yeet this out here Personally, i have a project going on for a year now, a mod for a game, and to be fair, your point of “Retry again, again, and again” and “Your first work wont be your best” absolutely resonates with my project. The story had gone through in total of 3 different rewrites, the lore for each nation changed about 4 times. The vehicle designs (its a vehicle focused mod) are changed again and again, sometimes a full redesign from, guess what, the Community of the game im making the mod for. So the fact that what concord is, you are most likely true about the entire game having NO revision at all during the development phase… how does one even do that
@salivatinggreed4219
@salivatinggreed4219 Ай бұрын
400m?!? Is that dead ass??
@bloodyidit4506
@bloodyidit4506 Ай бұрын
Yep
@Spoopy_man
@Spoopy_man Ай бұрын
Ong fr
@DCR94
@DCR94 Ай бұрын
No cap fr
@SolidusLightning777
@SolidusLightning777 Ай бұрын
💯
@icey_john
@icey_john Ай бұрын
real
@Vozgoth
@Vozgoth Ай бұрын
On the this was first draft and became final results, actually you can find multiple drafts online before they choose the current designs, and god there painful cause a lot of the early designs are so much better over what we got, so many of the designs were watered down to be safe, from a robot having a more robotic face to going full human face, to the armor green girl concept looking nothing to her in game model, I remember this one character backstory was about being in a gang called the monarchs and their colors reflecting the scheme of a monarch butterfly, that looked 100 times better than the final result which was just dessert browns and nothing like monarchs butterflies, one fire wizard girl had like burn scars that glowed with looked cool but they completely removed it in the trailer and final results I don’t blame the artist cause after seeing so much concept art that’s come out, they had a great team, it’s definitely a case of a bad art director and most likely a lot of meddling of people above In the end, you can have the best art team but that won’t mean jack shit if your art director or higher ups force you to bend to safe options
@jonbodhi
@jonbodhi Ай бұрын
It’s hilarious that someone tried to criticize you by investigating your ‘analytics!’ Be proud you occupied so much of their headspace!👍
@spectrebull
@spectrebull Ай бұрын
I know, right? I actually chuckled.
@LLtrash
@LLtrash Ай бұрын
This game is some weird grift for sure. The studio hadn't made any games before being bought and somehow Sony wasted 400 million dollars on it? Someone's pockets were filled with this debacle and I hope we find out who.
@nocturno7660
@nocturno7660 Ай бұрын
Building the titanic took 7.5 million back in the day, which translates to 190 million today. Fitting since they both sank in record time
@chaosinc.382
@chaosinc.382 Ай бұрын
Four... Hundred... MILLION?! For Gods sake! That's so much money. So much money that coulda gone to virtually anything else. Indie games, nature conservation, social programs, a really nice meal, decent employee pay! What a fething waste...
@abrr2000
@abrr2000 Ай бұрын
Corporation forced everyone in the company to be yes men for this game OR ELSE. That alone would be a good enough reason for why this project crashed and burned so darn hard.
@wetbadger2174
@wetbadger2174 Ай бұрын
I feel like anything named Concord is doomed, whether that be planes, boats or games
@brianmeans5965
@brianmeans5965 Ай бұрын
Just wait for their next game, Titanic.
@davidharrison7794
@davidharrison7794 Ай бұрын
This reeks of tax fraud. $400 million is absurd for a game, but great for a tax wrote off
@rexthelegend3180
@rexthelegend3180 13 күн бұрын
Ah yes, I’m sure this game in an already over saturated genre will be the next Star Wars. 400 million, now.
@isaiahhellems7901
@isaiahhellems7901 Ай бұрын
I definitely agree about most of those other people who were in the trenches and then became bigger in their companies but I always have to sort of cringe at Todd Howard and Neil druckman because of some of the terrible decisions that they've made especially with Todd Howard and how he's more or less ruined fallout. But the point is they did have a start somewhere in their companies and then became bigger and I understand the point that was being made
@the_letter_5579
@the_letter_5579 Ай бұрын
Tbh, at least Todd Howard isn’t as insufferable as Druckman
@ltsgobrando
@ltsgobrando Ай бұрын
LoOk At YoUr AnAlYtIcS bRo 😂😂😂 Proud to be one of your first 2.5k subs. Gut is telling me your channel is gonna blow up soon cuz of your fair, constructive, and well reasoned commentary. ❤
@saintallison
@saintallison Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your commentary and inisght, have a sub to add to the stack! :] And well, this is just me venting my feelings: I used to listen to Sacred Symbols religiously until 6 months ago when I took a step back from podcasts since my life was getting too busy and i felt like FOMO was destroying my enjoyment of games. I respect you crediting them!
@Thebeancrusader
@Thebeancrusader Ай бұрын
we dont talk about the last of us anymore
@magical86
@magical86 Ай бұрын
Just curious, is Herman the same guy who picked up Arrowhead? Helldivers 1 was a pretty unassuming game, and taking a chance on that clearly worked out for Sony. If so, that could explain the strange investments-he got lucky once and they figured they should let him cook?
@morelenmir
@morelenmir Ай бұрын
I think this was the best retrospective I have seen on the Concord disaster. Really, really well done indeed!!!
@ughugh3767
@ughugh3767 Ай бұрын
Companies need to learn they aren’t the ones to decide what will be/should be popular, fans do
@andrewparamonoff
@andrewparamonoff Ай бұрын
Your point on going from trenches to head office is spot on. The best CTO of IT company I know personally goes to projects as a regular engineer once a year. He once ssid to me that it is necessary for him to remember how it's done in the field to be the best administrator. That's a mindset and a half.
@DjVortex-w
@DjVortex-w Ай бұрын
I'm sure the investors are happy.
@Coramelimane
@Coramelimane Ай бұрын
They killed Studio Japan for this pile of shit,
@AgentSapphire
@AgentSapphire Ай бұрын
There are cases where the first draft of a character design does turn out to be the best one. But rather its important to make many drafts so you can figure out which one is the most ideal. Its only after going over your options and revisions that you can figure out what design is ideal. And then tweak, change, and polish as needed. Or, more likely, parts of various drafts will be good and they will need to be modified and combined to contribute to the final product. There are similar philosophies in writing that parallel artwork and design. The first draft will almost always need revision. Additionally, just like in art, even if you write or draw the best thing you have ever created, if it doesn't fit or can't be fit into the product as a whole, it must be cut. It can be saved and re-used for something else. But you can't forcefully insert it if it clashes with or weighs down everything around it.
@sparkleprizm199
@sparkleprizm199 Ай бұрын
What a waste of money
@DrakeHunter324
@DrakeHunter324 Ай бұрын
Ikr, people out there struggling to put food on the table and these corpos are throwing money on a tire fire.
@driguesbarcellos
@driguesbarcellos Ай бұрын
Sony should focus on fucking mosnter Hunter, give that money to them
@asteroidrules
@asteroidrules Ай бұрын
I sincerely hope they don't, if Sony tried to take the reins from Capcom they'd ruin it.
@ToonBoom788
@ToonBoom788 Ай бұрын
Calling this game “The Next Star Wars” reminds me of the guy that did Brought wanted this to be his Star Wars (but it wasn’t and he was also a controversial man himself) and how Gray Hadock wanted his online show only shown publicly from Rooster Teeth Poorly Planned Out Streaming Service (before it died) Gen:Lock to be in the academy awards for best acting, music and whatever else was there. Did I mention that it stars Michale Jorden, David Tenet and a few other guest stars as the main cast? Cause it did and flopped. (Also he too was a controversial man)
@rustyjones7908
@rustyjones7908 Ай бұрын
It makes sense that this game was designed by people that have never been criticized before. It explains everything actually.
@sopranottt
@sopranottt Ай бұрын
Bro, until you mentioned it I thought you have at least 100k+ subs. Very good quality video 👍
@punpun2271
@punpun2271 Ай бұрын
As someone in university right now for Illustration, I can confirm that part at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="360">6:00</a>. I have had my lecturers tell everyone over and over again to try out ideas as many times as you can get away with - because even if you think your first idea is amazing (and on a rare occasion, it is), it's always good to try out different angles because you might get something new you want to explore or incorporate. The character designs in Concord look like an artist would draw first time on a bad day.
@kira-dk2mx
@kira-dk2mx Ай бұрын
Concord costs 400 million to make and in the end we got what looked like someone tried to recreate Bronies using Destiny's character creation system. I'm still baffled how a mediocre game like this took 8 years to make.
@ounkeo
@ounkeo Ай бұрын
As an artist, I looked at the designs and knew right away there was no creative/art direction. It looked like whatever was submitted was accepted. It all looks like a first draft.
@devnom9143
@devnom9143 Ай бұрын
It sound like the team & leadership behind Concord desperately needed the writer's advice “kill your darlings”, as in "get rid of an unnecessary storyline, character, or sentences in a piece of creative writing"; When applied to video games if part of the gameplay is 'cool' in concept but not fun, interesting, or necessary in practice, it there should be serious considerations towards tweaking it for the better or just scraping it entirely . For example conceptual being able to walk around in a soace game like Eve Online sounds cool, but sinces it's fast to do everything via 2d menus why would anyone actually leave their ship, sure they could explore but beyond that it's merely an inferior way to interact with the games functionality, without adding say ship boarding where players could board each other's ships & have PvP fights in a ship like space pirates tried to seize each others ships there's no gameplay reason to include it in the game & development time could be better spent elsewhere
@minoruepusilon5395
@minoruepusilon5395 Ай бұрын
400m usd if they just use that money to buy anthem name and fucking remake it they would be a big success lol
@togeluga_the_cat
@togeluga_the_cat Ай бұрын
criticism is needed for anything you cant just make something and tell yourself that its gona work and not take any criticism about it because you had past succes and are confident in yourself if you dont take any criticism or complains you cant improve your own project and its short comings and mistakes, and at the end of the day you arent making this stuff for just yourself staying head strong and not giving up despite being harshly criticized is important, so you can learn from you mistakes and improve (heck, thats how we got big stuff like FNAF of all things) yet these guys with and extremely outdated view of the market where telling themselves their product with no real hype behind, blinded by confidence said it was gona be "as big as star wars" only to drop the ball so hard the ball just has no impact on anything and just dissapears from existance with lil to no trace left behind
@fivespy207
@fivespy207 Ай бұрын
TBC PLAYER DETECTED
@arden-chan
@arden-chan Ай бұрын
If Concord is a bird, its parents would have kicked it out of the nest as soon as its egg exited the mom's cloaca.
@ReallyLongURL
@ReallyLongURL Ай бұрын
have a free thumbs up and this comment, you have a good take and not getting bogged down in clown world is refreshing. an actual in depth look is such a nice change. lol why is youtube just "it suxs case its bad DEI BAD, case bad!! !"
@ababil2408
@ababil2408 Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="612">10:12</a> sony believe concord have the same potential as star wars. Looking at acolyte and outlaw "potential", they are kinda right.
@meganadams7274
@meganadams7274 Ай бұрын
400 Dollars. Damn that's alot
@meganadams7274
@meganadams7274 Ай бұрын
I meant 400 million. But 400 is still alot.
@ScienceDiscoverer
@ScienceDiscoverer Ай бұрын
@@meganadams7274 I think its possible to make a better game with a budget of 400 dollars than this!
@dawsonrudis4642
@dawsonrudis4642 Ай бұрын
I think the best take on character design is simple is better. Most of the time. Like their wall-e trash robot looks like a trash robot. They nailed that one. Dude literally has a vacuum too. It’s just so weird they can have a handful of good ideas and commit to none, instead working on lame imitation. Like the comp mode should’ve been the main game but they doubled down on tdm? It wasn’t call of duty, it wasn’t overwatch. It committed to neither and failed in both aspects. Sorry idk if Neil Drunkenman is a good example of a programmer become big boss. My last of us 2 hate is too strong.
@jamesread4469
@jamesread4469 Ай бұрын
In 1977 everyone around starwars thought it would be a flop.
@cousinmerl
@cousinmerl Ай бұрын
This was the result of a team who where just happy having a job, so no one criticised.
@saddoombringer2149
@saddoombringer2149 Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="510">8:30</a> didn’t care too much about the topic but I respect the stance you took and gave the video a like 👍
@bigrobwazhere6268
@bigrobwazhere6268 Ай бұрын
Literally go woke, go broke. 😂
@LuigiTheMetal64
@LuigiTheMetal64 Ай бұрын
I already boycotted Sony since they support censoring mediums. Pioneer is a company I may support when talking video players.
@larsfinlay7325
@larsfinlay7325 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: a lot of the ideologues working on Concord are politically opposed to the reasonable person standard that the entire legal system is based on. Reasonable minds can’t come together if they aren’t properly primed to work with one another. They were radicalized.
@Auldwight
@Auldwight Ай бұрын
just incase anyone might have been wondering why they were EX- bungie employees
@canaldepablo7113
@canaldepablo7113 Ай бұрын
Oh s**** this channel only has like 2k subscribers? I had no idea, production quality is amazing. Keep up the good work!
@m.d.schaffer4709
@m.d.schaffer4709 Ай бұрын
For a small channel, this is thoroughly thought out
@FeedMeSalt
@FeedMeSalt Ай бұрын
This games 400 million dollar failure has definitely been good for smaller channels 😆
@frozone2366
@frozone2366 Ай бұрын
Concord is the tesla of video games.
@chrisprescott2273
@chrisprescott2273 Ай бұрын
Mad props to you for actually using gameplay footage of the game that you're talking about instead of some other game you'd rather be playing. It's crazy the amount of channels that just put whatever in the background while they talk about a game they don't like.
@spectrebull
@spectrebull Ай бұрын
Well, its just trailers, really. I would have gotten gameplay of it, but...you know, no one can play the game anymore. Lol Appreciate the compliment, though!
@Fuquan3000
@Fuquan3000 Ай бұрын
I think this may be my first video of yours but I would’ve never thought you were a small KZbin if you never said anything lol this a well put together video and you have valid conversation points … definitely about to subscribe with hopes you keep it up … you’ll be big some day no doubt
@charlythesneaky
@charlythesneaky Ай бұрын
I really like your video, you have a good montage and I like your commentary, however I would add some music to fill in the blank and have something in the background. Otherwise, you've got another sub!
@AlexHyena1
@AlexHyena1 Ай бұрын
if I was head of a game studio, I'd *want* criticism of the game around the office. talk about whats wrong so you can fix it
@namelessname4362
@namelessname4362 Ай бұрын
Sony was getting taxed too much and needed a write off to lower corporate taxes for the year is my opinion
@shadeblackwolf1508
@shadeblackwolf1508 Ай бұрын
The game makes it extremely clear that either people did not playtest any of this, or iteration feedback was ignored.
@NicoBuilds-g3u
@NicoBuilds-g3u Ай бұрын
By the way, this is not a small challenge. You are rocking mate!
@cdplus2339
@cdplus2339 Ай бұрын
RIP Satoru Iwata. What a mad wizard genius
@Kokuki39
@Kokuki39 Ай бұрын
Sounds like what happened in my pandemic job: a random the ceo hired to do most of behind the scene work as cfo had near everyone quitting because he was a headache to deal with (unless it was the ceo ofc), didn't take criticism well on whatever he was doing, force-implementing objectively good procedures in an intentionally understaffed work area almost w/o feedback from those it was forced upon if they didn't stand up for themselves, and by hearing him gas up the marketing guy in which the marketing guy would seemingly take his advice to heart I knew why he was a headache to the managers - toxic positivity. After like a year the business was doing worse and the guy got fired, but as much as I needed a job I never went back because of that "yes men" enviroment that was created.
@TechPriest000
@TechPriest000 Ай бұрын
It’s insane a game like this can come and go, cost over 400m and yet a lot of people (my friends and I included, all being pretty avid gamers) hadn’t even heard of it until after it had already failed and closed. That is crazy to think of for me.
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