The Confusing Canon Of Sonic.EXE

[@Duncachi]

Hey guys! So there is now an OFFICIAL timeline of X, made by Joedoughboi Check it out here: bsky.app/profile/losermakesgames.bsky.social/post/3l7e7k5uiqe22

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

hi owner of the wiki you took all of this info from here most of the things you said regarding EXE/Faker are wrong Faker is a singularity that exists in Lord X's timeline only, who was created back when he was 2011, before he did any moves Sonic Legacy is its own canon entirely 2017 will get a proper story done at some point, the variant seen in Sonic Legacy is only really a placeholder that is canon for the time being Also seeing you mention Xenophanes and put up a render of the FNF version gave me physical pain

[@Duncachi]

Hi! Thanks for putting together the wiki, and commenting! I see, think I just confused some things. I thought the timeline between faker and lord X was separate due to the guardians not knowing who EXE is. Joedoughboi did a Q&A with the guardians where one of the guardians was asked something about EXE: in which they responded they didn’t know who that was So for some reason I assumed it was an alternate timeline, but it is entirely possible that faker was simply put away or trapped elsewhere. I also think I should’ve stated specifically that Faker exists solely in Lord X’s timeline Just got confused since 2017X is canon in the mod, and that’s where the bulk of the lore is from so far but sonic legacy is its own canon And, yeah I will admit putting FNF Xenophanes while talking about canon Xenophanes was disrespectful. Just thought more people would be familiar with that design, but seeing it now doesn’t make sense. Either way, I do apologize and hopefully won’t spread too much misinformation!

[@Chillipeffer]

​@@Duncachithe reason why is actually in your video, he was sent to another dimension, so the guardians would not have learned of his existence

[@CTRen]

@@EpicKMetalSonicwhen you look up xenophanes a lot of images are just fan art based on the fnf render

[@silverthehedgehog-ub3wy]

Lord mortis isn’t past, it’s alternative future of 2011X

[@Thejayone962]

One of the biggest gripes I have with the .exe canon is Lord X and 2011X not being classified as one and the same in both ways, as said by Joe: "Lord X is always 2011X, but 2011X is not always Lord X" which is what i think is the main reason official Sonic.exe is so confusing. It's clear that Joe also wants AU's like Mortis and '17X to be official, but doesn't quite understand that you don't need to give 2011X no clear story after Sonic2011 for that to work. I think an easier way of defining the canon and AU's as official would be: "2011X in the Sonic.exe canon will always become Lord X, however in some cases, he will go down a different road."

[@beeko5329]

JUST ADMIT IT. He's a bad writer. He's pretentious.

[@Duncachi]

Well said! Still kinda newish to learning and making video essays like this Thanks for watching and commenting 👍

[@newberryanimation6213]

​@Duncachi by the way I red both exes and lord xs wiki pages. They said nothing about exe being made instead of the guardians he was made before the guardians. Not only that but the guardians ruled in favor of 2011x so he casted exe into a different reality. Even crazier lord x knows about everyone else and hates them.

[@somemadnessfan4763]

this just makes me wonder. What the fuck IS the true canonical "will 100% happen" sequel to SONIC 2011. Is it Round 2?, is it Sally.EXE? i mean Cream and other Sally.EXE characters are set to appear in SONICPC so???

[@Familyguyfunnymoments_]

I thought Lord x was supposed to be from an AU where the sonic vessel can decay though?

[@dotFLAA]

He's Sonic.EXE, HE'S Sonic.EXE, YOU'RE Sonic.EXE, I'M SONIC.EXE!!! ARE THERE ANY MORE SONIC.EXES I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?

[@Duncachi]

You get a sonic.exe, YOU get a sonic.exe EVERYONE GETS A SONIC.EXE

[@Radiationexe]

Free exe's!!! Make your own canon that's very confusing!!! And will make your future relatives wonder what you were tripping on

[@shiny_kopi2]

Hmm, yes, I'll take a Majin.

[@TheKriegsmen]

(That weird original Human Xenophane version comes in)

[@jackthedisturbed9000]

"I am God" 🐌

[@minecrafanz4589]

*2011 X, Lord X, Xenophanes* “What kind of fool do you take me for?! He’s Sonic.exe, he’s Sonic.exe, YOU’RE Sonic.exe, I’M SONIC.EXE! Are there any more Sonic.exe’s I should know about?! “Say…Would you like…TO PLAY?” “…I’m outta here…”

[@waddleds665]

"But guys it's me, your pal Sonic the Hedgehog"

[@Stratosphere138]

Surprisingly peak joke lmfao!

[@AidantPlayzOfficial]

Sonic.omt: hi there Exetior:Yo Fatal Error: usiahzhduusizifiauxirusucydd Sarkk: yo

[@FardNugget_101]

Exeller: SO I'M JUST GONNA BE LEFT OUT THE FAMILY REUNION?

[@TheAwesomeNyles]

Rewrite: “Something Tells Me You’ve Been Waiting for Me…”

[@KOIDYUNO]

Gonna clear somethings up. There are three SEPARATE canons, being 2011x, 2017x , and Xenophanes 2011x and 2017x are full on rewrites of the ones done by JC, as a way to seperate and make much less weird incarnations of the two character. 2017x is an X incarnation but is not anyway related to 2011x as they are their own characters. Xeno is a much more later incarnation, having less affiliation with the JC version and is more of the current owners own take of what Sonic.exe is. Now for Lord X and Mortis, they are two alternative futures of X. They are not essentially the same because they are moreso of possibilities of what X can become in the future if he continues to do his sick games. EXE/Faker is not made by Lord X, more or less just been adopted by him as he's actually created by 2011x. X from Sonic Legacy is just X just wanting branch off a bit.

[@Lucid_Tales1]

Wasn't it literally confirmed that EXE was made by Lord X, since they both made from the void. This is the problem with 2011x's existence because now it has to change everything.

[@KOIDYUNO]

@@Lucid_Tales1 as of now, it's still unknown whether it's 2011x and then adopted by Lord X or that it's Lord X specifically who made him, I'm only giving what I know and what is seen more widely accepted Then again, Raven has stated that a lot of the lore has been recently considered outdated, so there are still changes to come

[@KOIDYUNO]

@General_Comedian Raven is the one who's rewriting/owns the new version of 2017x, who's now considered as "Sonic" or Shattered Face

[@KOIDYUNO]

@General_Comedian I'm not the person to be asked this, especially since "Sonic's" lore hasn't been revealed fully yet

[@KOIDYUNO]

@General_Comedian what are you getting from this

[@Lucien_M]

FNF mods of EXEs made by their respective creators are likely "non-canon" but somewhat "In-character", similar to any fanart a game dev makes of their own game, or any OC fanart made by the OC's creator.

[@sajadking666]

Ok good Now suffer by learning about exetior and exeller

[@rucasthelucas288]

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS NIGHTMARE UNIVERSE VIDEO PLEASE

[@ToastKrumb]

Oh god...

[@somemadnessfan4763]

Nightmare Series lore is actually insane like what do you mean Sark turned everyone into a ra**st??.

[@hrleo14]

​@@somemadnessfan4763technically what any demon shit would do so i guess its reasonable???

[@kingadam69]

Oh god no... what are we gonna do about them!?

[@ThePumpkinHeaded]

So from what I’m getting from this in a nutshell….2011X is the default base avatar for these timelines and the other variants are basically offshoots of him, with many deviations and altercations.

[@Z3RO5286]

2011, 2017 AKA 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 sonic, EXE (Faker) are the main canons. Lord X and Mortis are basically future trunk situations from alternate universes.

[@kxzkxrson]

i kept hearing “x” and “2017” “2011” “2011x” this really is confusing af

[@TheArtistEnterprises]

Thank you so much for this video(s). I've been recently going back over an older concept of mine where something happened and the "EXEVerse" was "rewritten." I was under the assumption that these were separate entities and didn’t know that these were "what-ifs."

[@SanicTehHegehog-z4g]

Sanic.exe is 100% canon guys trust

[@Lucid_Tales1]

MY KING!!

[@thelazyguy72]

​@General_ComedianGET OUT!

[@ToEzRexy564]

He’s not

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

i don't know if it's just me, but this seems WAY too confusing for now. until all of these guys (excluding 2011x, and i honestly had no idea who Lord Mortis was up until this) gets their _own_ playable game in some form, i'll finally start taking some of these bits of lore at face value. i like 2017x, but i don't really have any other reason to like him other than his design, sure, he has his... basic character info that explains as to why he is the way he is, not that it's a bad thing oh- no, it's just that i need to see these characters in action to really understand what's it about them that really captivates me!

[@BlueTakBlur]

the official sonic canon is also confusing and broken. so this is actually just poetic.

[@doohickeyhandy758]

Probably a hot take in this community, but I feel like Exes shouldn’t be “limitless” (either be MORE vague about how their powers work so people are kept guessing or define some rules so that theyre understood and easier for others to interpret) Even Lord X. Like, the Bandado Vs Lord X debate doesn’t really even have a satisfying answer if both are limitless, because numbers wouldn’t matter, cloning exists, if they were actually “limitless” they could summon however many limitless guardians they want, or undo their. What are they so powerful for when a human can’t do shit anyway? It shouldn’t have to be so xtreme. Why can’t they just be strong enough for their story and allowed to have vulnerabilities that lull you into a sense of being able to escape or defeat them?

[@thedragonthatlovesskittles7132]

I agree, a character without weakness is bad character development

[@sonicloverlol2]

They limit themselves and 2011X can be defeated

[@doohickeyhandy758]

@@sonicloverlol2 I really don't care if they limit themselves when they're all malicious/psychotic characters with hardly any incentive to trust. Them breaking their "rule" of limiting themselves wouldn't be surprising as it would on a character with more solid morals. Also 2011X can be quote on quote "defeated" sure, but not permanently dispelled/'killed' for good. Defeating 2011X is about as permanent as killing a slasher villian, all it means is someone else will be next . I don't entirely mind an entity in EXE media actually being omnipotent for their setting but I feel like it should either NOT be the exe itself but some other force, OR it's the EXE and they have some defined character flaw that defines why they really restrict themselves other than "fun". Either a certain perspective, or because of entities they've met previous, it could literally be anything. "Fun" just seems silly if you could just make yourself entertained in a snap. I feel like 2011 Sonic has something good here with "No More Souls" to play with being about them succeeding in their plans but being left with nothing else." as it makes me imagine an EXE finally reconsidering their methodologies after getting everything they want the HARD way, that they're capable of actual change in approach even after so long... in a matter of speaking, that they're able to be humanized, seen in a slightly vulnerable position due to their strangely very human desires. Humans do write these characters to life at the end of the day, and all of them try to be some alien eldritch creature beyond human understanding... but what if you REALLY gave an Exe human rationality? What if you got to see the downfall of an Exe in action and the rise of a new one to take it's mantle? What if an Exe actually changed it's damn mind but was stuck in a position too far to stop now and risk losing everything?

[@heidycespedes2687]

i doubt they're actually limitless because they don't really have feats to back it up

[@thedragonthatlovesskittles7132]

@@heidycespedes2687 yeah they def arent

[@heitorsant1759]

7:29 OH MY GOD YOU PUT THE DOPPLEGANGER RACE IN THE BACKGROUND WHEN TALKING ABOUT FAKER THAT'S BRILLIANT

[@MegaLpso]

Having short term memory sucks because everything this man has said to me went out the window. He's just saying years at me and I'm nodding

[@pvrplz886]

im rolling bru😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@JamsDX]

zen off uh knees its a Greek name. its not zeenofanes

[@minge-splinter]

🤓 thank you for your insight

[@ArmpitSweatEnjoyer]

Don’t nobody wanna say that goofy ass name

[@JamsDX]

@@minge-splinter replying with a nerd emoji does not make me any less right

[@minge-splinter]

@@JamsDX you are right, I just used it cause I thought it was funny

[@QualifiedVirgin]

that's how the canon versions name is said. the fnf version is different.

[@M0mazosMissy]

Quick rundown of what i think supposedly happens, also, i think Duncachi tried to explain, most of these versions are classified as official, and most of them are part from a canon that branches from 2011x 2011x: The original, basically the jc one but improved and completely unlinked from him Lord X: Supposedly, 2011 but grandpa, sometimes he is, sometimes he isn't Frea- i mean 2017x: 2011 but gone insane thinking he is Sonic, as his name suggest, a remake of the dumpster of fire that is jc's 2017 remake Lord Mortis: what if x was betrayed and trapped EXE/Faker: Lord's stupid son Xenophanes: The first one that isn't related to the others, a completely different story, and most importantly, he is NOT the same as Vs Sonic.exe (This one was named Luis to both avoid confusion and mock rightburst) Vs Sonic.exe isn't either canon nor official Sonic Legacy is official, but the canon is debatable All father, OMT and EYX are not official

[@Duncachi]

Personally I love your explanation the most, have my channel lol this was well said

[@sboy2044]

2017 X isn’t a branch off of 2011 X

[@M0mazosMissy]

@@sboy2044 Thanks for clarifying it, it's still confusing

[@PCCrasher42069]

2017x is not in any way related to 2011x

[@2011X_CANONEXE]

The beginning is confusing but when you understand all it's easy.

[@ExcaliburOfMadness302]

Something about tails moonwalking like michael jackson in the back while you're trying to explain the sonic.exe lore is so unserious

[@Duncachi]

It's very serious, I do not see how this could NOT be serious! Tails moonwalking signifies his amazing dancing skills, and me incorrectly explaining some EXE lore- well, how would people know??? they would pass away without it fr

[@danielprime2178]

I’ve watched like, half the video and I wanna correct one thing: Lord X, EXE and the 7 guardians all share the same timeline. X creates EXE (somewhere after Sonic 2011 I think). EXE rebels and gets banished. X grows into Lord X. Sometime later creates them 7 guards.

[@samsheyman1312]

0:34 Tails be moon walking

[@jamisonrules]

Tails is Michael Jackson confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@samsheyman1312]

@@jamisonrules yep

[@RabidEditz666]

Every Sonic.EXE variant I can name: Xenophanes, Lord X, Majin, EXE/Faker, 2011X, 2017X, Lord Mortis, X, Sonic.OMT, Sonic Editable ROM, DX, SL4SH, Fatal Error, Cyclops.ISO/SPEED.GIF, No More Innocence, NeedleM0use, Exetoir, Rewrite, El Pendrive Azul, Shin Sonic, Fleetway, The Allfather, Hog, Sonic.ERR & Sonic.NES.

[@futurefunkinu6766]

I haven’t felt the true feeling of having a hernia over going back and forth and back and forth trying to figure out lore until I watched this video. Truly an absolute gem.

[@dreamyutlra5391]

What’s crazy is that sega has there own sonic.exe but there’s is just a troll

[@soniczeromkx]

.....ima just stick to sonic. Exe being a sonic with black eyes who is crying blood, otherwise ima have another stroke trying to put the back and forth canon

[@JefIzlan]

Well for me personally, I'll just stick with Sonic.exe being a separate character rather than just "Sonic but he's a demon" thing, with him wearing grey shoes and only cries blood whenever he gets excited

[@Sl4she]

The amount of names and lore we have to memorize is ground breaking

[@trash-lol]

2017 is actually explicitly stated as not being X on the wiki

[@PKR_92]

bro in the wiki 2017x it refers to x

[@sboy2044]

@@PKR_92No it does not. He’s officially called “Sonic”. He’s non-canonically called “2017 X” as a nickname since he is basically an alternate variation of X, but not branching from the original.

[@PKR_92]

@@sboy2044 bro I know like all the variant and I don't talk about the nickname

[@jackthedisturbed9000]

​@@sboy2044the title of "X" just makes it confusing if the distinction isn't explicitly stated beforehand so it's uh Kinda wonky

[@alyx9191]

🤓

[@lucasnievas4890]

This guy has the voice of someone who would rant about Sonic

[@iminyourwallz420]

I think I suffered an aneurism somewhere in the middle of the video and just zoned out for the most part of the explanation and it was way too late when I realized it. Thanks for trying to explain Sonic executable archive extension lore, though

[@_pixlz]

it was so simple when it was just an evil ass sonic with a serious case of pink eye.

[@masterharrison3921]

Great video 👍🏾. Could you explain the nightmare universe with Exetior , sark , and Creep?

[@EpicAntos]

Ah yes. The world of Sonic.Exe lore and fan-creations is just as confusing as the world of Undertale fan-creations and AU’s.

[@ndres6955]

Oh my God, finally somebody made a video about the cannon, I was just thinking about re-researching It to make sure, but this will probably make this a lot easier, thanks! ALSO HOLY SHIT THERE'S A PART 2 ALREADY?!

[@TheBowlerHatGuy-dm2gr]

Over all, 2011X’s ultimate canon future, is Lord X. Nothing really changes besides him being older, grown more powerful, and became a leader with servants who works and worships him.

[@ravingrabbidlover5967]

So, to sum things up, it’s a multiverse thing.

[@Duncachi]

Yup! Lord X actually states this himself that there is a multiverse Thus confirming that he knows of their existence This comment reminded me of that, I start remembering things after I post the video 😭

[@ravingrabbidlover5967]

@@Duncachi I really hope more lore on Faker is published soon. He’s my favorite official take.

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

​@@ravingrabbidlover5967me too bro, we need more Faker stuffffff

[@PKR_92]

@@ravingrabbidlover5967 it's Exe not faker bru

[@Jonathan_Glitch2.2]

@@PKR_92 ..ITS JUST A NICKNAME-

[@TheGrimReaper_4444]

The only exes that i consider canon are 2011X, Lord X, 2017X, and 2011X (fnf). I only consider them canon if they have their own playable game and aren't from fnf (with the exception of 2011X(fnf)) Edit: Ya'll quit arguing, just disagree and move on. Istg this is why we're all known as toxic

[@sboy2044]

The version of 2017 X/“Sonic” we see now _is_ technically exclusive to the FNF mod. It’s a temporary replacement of JC’s reboot and they’ll get a proper retake once his current owner is done with her other projects.

[@TheGrimReaper_4444]

@@sboy2044 good to know, thanks!

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

@@TheGrimReaper_4444 That's absolute hypocrisy lmfao

[@Smols828]

Lord x is not canon at all

[@Smols828]

2011 x xenophanes broken face are the only ones canon

[@darthsandiest4389]

I miss when Sonic.exe was just a creepypasta character and not just a "FNF" character as I have found out many people see them as nowadays (mostly by younger kids)

[@PhazerXP]

Tell me about it..

[@misterboxhead3045]

You numbskull, before fnf, sonic.exe was a absolute dogshit creepypasta, because of the mod people actually gave him a chance to see something even decent from him. besides tf ya complaining about "younger kids"?? Since always only kids actually liked sonic.exe

[@thedoglovinggamer5825]

I hope Exe gets officially acknowledged by Sega at some point, perhaps as an IDW entity that takes over Sonic in an alternate timeline and drags our main cast into his timeline like with what Scourge did in Archie. Even Tails Doll being a monstrous entity was officially recognized on multiple occasions, even in Lego Dimensions, so I can't see why Exe can't.

[@RandomSkull420]

SEGA has acknowledged EXE before, it was on a Twitter Post

[@thedoglovinggamer5825]

@@RandomSkull420 I know about that, I’m talking about in a canon or a Spin-off sense.

[@buppyboi7469]

you start sounding more and more insane each second past like 3 minutes of the whole video

[@Fadertrader1321]

I’m watching this instead of studying for finals😭 I’m cooked😭😭😭

[@joinme5560]

Listening to this is a similar feeling to having a stroke. My heart goes out to you, dude

[@Auuuuuuuughh]

Sonic legacy 2011x is actually a what if situation, making him different from the canon version of himself

[@sboy2044]

I mean technically all of the branches are “what if”’s from I what I understand

[@reviewtechUSSR1]

You know back in mah day, sonic.exe was just sonic with spooky red eyes.

[@ReverendBroom]

Imo they should split it like this 2011X and 2017X are the same BUT 2017X is a possible timeline if he took his obsession with Sonic even further. Lord X IS 2011X, just much older while Mortis is a possible future for him. EXE/Faker was created by the canon Lord X before he made the guardians but at some point he rebelled against Lord X. Xenophanes, both the canon and the fnf versions, are simply their own thing unrelated to any version of X with the fnf version being sorta of a composite version of the canon Xeno and 2011X while Sonic Legacy X is a slight branch off from 2011X.

[@Smols828]

2011 x and 2017 x are not the same at all

[@YahyinaANDNabiilistheGOAT]

1:31 Well he is A Sonic.EXE. There are like, Thousands (if not Millions)

[@idkrandomname4304]

Honestly never really liked the concept of 2011 X becoming other characters i usually prefer them as separate character's but thanks to the video i can kinda understand it now Also i think it would be interesting to see a video on the FNF version of xenophanes i think he's interesting

[@monkeycrimson6087]

This shit feels like I'm watching a video on how to get the correct evolution variant i want for my pokemon

[@quinndaniels1928]

Instructions unclear: I tried to solve for Lord X and I got 5

[@anothernormalperson069]

Bro just be talking about a "2017 X" and then proceeds to casually bring images of regular sonic .. Like bro, that's just sonic 🙏😒 (/On a serious note nice video essay, made me learn about stuff i didnt know before :3

[@Duncachi]

I dunno how to tell you this bro but those were pictures of you YOURE SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 🦔 Glad I could enlighten you on the edgy hedgehogs Thanks for watching creator of hit FNF mod game over lord X mix :D

[@addictedperson]

hey that 2017x guy looks like he’d say: Cold, So cold, Truth be told.

[@domin4193]

I didn’t understand a single word in this video lmao, half of the names said don’t even sound like real things anymore Good vid!

[@kylesby]

same here

[@teddymorrison9334]

I've been thinking of this for a while, 2011X is like the Joker, 2017X is like the Batman who laughs, and Lord X is like Pennywise In conclusion: They are all clowns! (MANIACAL LAUGHTER)

[@theblooperlol]

it’s just bloody sonic man to me that has variants :>

[@17raysplays29]

I believe Allfather is Classic X, the one who started it all.

[@madnessdarkness5818]

I know some things on Xenophanes pronounced [Xen - of - a -knees] based on what Shei has said on Twitter, Deviantart and to people she spoken with. He like some other exes is not bound by the game he resides in. His world seems to be more based on Sonic Adventure 2. He arrived on Earth through a meteor in the early 2000's and has a human form. Rather than coming from the void he is from a planet called the world of X. He has lived over 1000 years and doesn't seem to be that fascinated in sonic like X is only taking his form from his popuarity at the time. He has a reluctant partnership with a girl named Alice and is really into rock n roll as well as heavy metal. He is also in fact soulless so their is a chance that him taking souls is just a way for him to feel some form of liberation. It was once stated by Shei that he had 7 siblings but I'm not sure if that is canon to him anymore as i can no longer find the post she said it in. He can crystalize any part of his body at will and the X on his chest is a scar that can't be hidden unless of course clothing is covering it. He also is not that tall like how Rightburst depicted him or that hot-headed his sonic form is only 3'9 and if any one of the 3 X's were to throw a tantrum Joe said it would likely be "Sonic" still love him though. But that's all I know some things can be changed but until his official story is out this is all I got.

[@GoGoing-wn9kz]

His brothers are still canon,go to promethei on shei deviant art I talked about his brothers there

[@PhazerXP]

THANK YOU FOR SPREADING AWARENESS OF THE XENOPHANES CANON!

[@VulpesSpiritus]

His human form is corny af

[@madnessdarkness5818]

So was the style of clothing in the early 2000s, but it really doesn't matter. It fits the time frame he arrives on Earth for his disguise, but hey, your opinion, I guess.

[@GoGoing-wn9kz]

@@madnessdarkness5818 fr I kinda like his design

[@EA_sports147]

You should try out the roblox game "Sonic.exe the disaster", it's basically dead by daylight but with sonic characters, if you want me to explain more to you then just let me know

[@nyanbinary69]

i really wanna learn about the og xenophanes, bc i only ever had exposure to the fnf version before this video - ty for this!

[@Melostone]

All i gained from this video is that 2011 is an eevee, he had multiple evolution lines that are both related to and simular to the original

[@Nerdlee-27]

Call me weird, but I'm glad that Modern X isn't 2011 Creepypasta X. That story was legitimately awful, and it does nothing good for the character. The story needs a rewrite with no writing cliches, no boring and awfully stupid main lead, and Lord X as the main antagonist/ villain, and it needs to be written by someone who knows what they are doing and how to make a frightening story.

[@2017_exe]

I also belive there is one called the all father which gains power by remaining relevant which could be the reasons for the incarnations of him

[@jayhastie9838]

sonic.exe when he has to deal with his alternate universe counter part bleedy eyes the hog

[@DanielCeja-w2k]

This is really cool confusing and understandable at the same time idk if I like Sonic exe in fnf it seems odd that exe can sing like it doesn’t seem scary

[@thevideogameclan9639]

I'm having a brain aneurysm

[@lanemueller8011]

You’re making it sound like different ways to evolve a Pokémon.

[@BurokunRona]

so sonic exe basically has his own marvel storyline

[@lorrainebrunner2490]

It's a shame so many .exe fans who only found it through like FNF mods don't even know about the fan games like Tower Of Millennium, Soh, or Hardboiled, the one where it's like a post apocalypse choose your own path game I can't remember the name of. I think it actually followed like Cream or Sally or Amy or something rather than the other characters. 😔 😌

[@saviogustavi]

I love the idea of 2011X becoming Lord X because of aging which gives me a theory that his soul is immortal but the body is not like he can make his body somewhat immortal but there is limitations to it

[@scottsworldetmnins3171]

Full breakdown of every entity listed on the Sonic Entity's wiki

[@KO_Kosmic]

Sleeping❌ 15 minutes of someone rambling about Sonic.exe lord X lore that makes me go insane✅ (I love this video)

[@ness6714]

Nobody tell him about the Nightmare Universe.

[@DarkBean55]

I promise you, shit gets like 10x more confusing once you start looking into human characters like Alice and Derek

[@MyStellarSpace]

Man the internet really ran down Sonic.exe, they messed it up like Kingdom Hearts, it's so goofy but not in the fun way

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

@@DarkBean55 i don't see how? Those characters are barely even developed at all

[@DarkBean55]

@EpicKMetalSonic Alice has been getting some more development as of lately, but if you want a more clear example of what I'm talking about it's Paul's entire existence in PC Port. Because like, wasn't he erased by X back in 2011, why would his supposedly empty vessel be on the character select screen.

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

@@DarkBean55 how do you know it's Paul and not another person in an eggman vessel

[@docrilas]

@@EpicKMetalSonic because joe confirmed that the names of the victims in sonic pc port was the same than the ones from sonic 2011

[@Pilgrim1281]

This hurt my brain but also scratched it in a good way somehow 😂

[@thegamerFOX45]

the top of my head is burning, i think my brain caught on fire from all this information

[@CERTIFIEDBLOCK]

To put short at 0:45, Sonic.exe is a genera of characters. Xenophanes is Sonic.exe, but he’s not the canon exe, yes hes the OG OG Sonic exe from the first version but 2011x is the CANON VERSION of him, but more of being lore packed rather than xenophanes being a bloodbath

[@soufianegamerpro]

the way i see it xenophanes is the prime 2011x is the original 2017x is the reboot of the original lord x is the first lord mortis is the first that his canon was interrupted 2011x and 2017x also exist due to jc's versions of sonic.exe that he made in 2011 and 2017 that were replaced by the new ones

[@LSkull666]

Well there over Millions of exe's but i can make it short: Most exe's are very different from each other Like fatal Error and Xenophane and there are some exe's who are good in Heart Like Sunky, Hog and Curse Sonic.exe is the First exe that Existed or atleast thats what people think, there was one exe who was before sonic.exe and his Name is Azul (its shortend btw) Lord X is suppose to be the older Version of Sonic.exe but got Changed to be a different one too since the creator diden't Like the Idea that His creations are similare, Xenophane is tho another exe who more powerful than Sonic exe and is suppose to Continue Exe's legacy (still different beings tho) Majin Sonic is basicly somewhere between good and evil but He trys to stop Xeno and Xanthus from Their Plans of going further into other worlds and Our world 2017X is another being similare to exe but kinda different, He isn't as powerful as exe and He actualy belives that He is Sonic and kills everyone who Thinks otherwise or doubts him Faker is the child of Lord X because X created him but He got betrayed by Lord X and now seeks Revenge and is filled with hatred, in Short Terms Faker is a broken Character Azul is the actual First exe's that ever Existed, He is more of the spanish Type and i dont have more informations about him All Father is basicly 2011/Sonic.exe just kinda with an different Story, instead of being a executeabel File He took Form of Sonic since He was so Famous and all If ya want to i can be a bit more specific about each Character

[@Bonkaspringbomb]

So xeno has the same lore as horror Mario where he was just sonic until daddy dearest trapped in a game causing him to go insane

[@SuperLeechGuy]

I was gonna make my own video discussing this topic but here’s the simple answer 3 main cannons: -2011X (reboot of the original X) both the character and the entire universe (both rebooted and the original) are owned by Joedoughboi -“Sonic” but I just call him 2017X (reboot of the 2017 remake of sonic.exe) originally rebooted by Joedoughboi but gave ownership to raven/Revie who owns the entire character and 2017 continuity (new and old) Joedoughboi may have held Co-ownership at one point however what involvement he still has isn’t clear but I assume he helps work on the character but all decisions come down to Revie and their approval. The design of 2017 in sonic legacy is outdated and scraped which is why it appears in the mod despite Revie not wanting her exe’s in fnf (so don’t get your hopes up about seeing EXE/Faker) And xenophanes which is owned by shei/astra the owner of sonic.exe with Xenophanes being the complete reboot of the concept and is sorta the “main” cannon despite their story being in production for a long time now. Branch offs: -Lord X, who is owned by JoeDoughBoi. A lot of people think the “lord X is always 2011 is but 2011 isn’t always lord X” means lord X is an alternate universe branch off of 2011. In my opinion it more likely means lord X is always 2011 because he’s the future/older version of 2011 but 2011 isn’t always lord X because not all variants of 2011 become lord X (remember take the wiki as a grain of salt as it’s written by fans and not the creators and a lot of stuff gets outdated. Regardless Lord X and 2011 are still cannon for multiple reasons such as. Alan being tails in both sonic 2011 and sonicPC, 2011 calls the player new friend while lord X calls the player old friend, In sonic 2011 if you fall during GO BACK 2011 says no cheating which in some of the versions of then old Sonic PC port if you look down it says NO CHEATING, Lord X says welcome back in SonicPC and in sonic 2011 if you close the game at certain points and re open it a pop up appears with the text “Welcome back” will appear, in X’s lament which is cannon 2011 plays the piano and theirs artwork of Lord X playing the piano and Joedoughboi responded to a comment on X’s lament that was joking about Lord X and 2011 both playing the piano with Joedoughboi responding “old habits die hard.” And lastly 2011’s true form looks similar to one of the forms of lord X in the old sonic pc port. -EXE/faker, created and Owned by Raven/Revie. Originally EXE’s cannon revolved around OG X but because JC the hyena decided to be JC the child predator along with his gf it’s likely this changed with OG X becoming 2011 and Joedoughboi himself confirmed Lord X is part of exe’s lore alongside Revie confirming it. -Lord Mortis:, owned by GEAR-0-SHIFT. Basically it’s lord X but when he was younger he got his ass clapped by Bandado and turned into a dried corpse. Like with EXE lord Mortis’s lore revolved around OG X but since he was rebooted into 2011 it’s likely the lore for Lord Mortis has changed. Lord Mortis is a offical alternate universe of lord X and SonicPC confirmed by Joedoughboi. -Bandado, owned by GEAR-0-SHIRT. Basically a being who invaded X’s world and clapped his ass and took over not much needs to be said. Edit: 2017 isn’t 2011, rather a different entity that is born in a different time and goes on a different path then 2011, where you got that information I have no idea

[@sboy2044]

2017 X’s description on the wiki is extremely misleading and makes it sound as if it’s implying that 2017 X is another future variant of 2011 X

[@SuperLeechGuy]

@@sboy2044 just read the wiki page of 2017X and it’s actually contradictory. There are times it implies 2017 is its own character and other times when it sounds like its trying to say 2017X is a variant of 2011. Regardless if he got this information from the wiki he would have had to scroll through most of the information and cherry pick one sentence. But if that is the case then it’s stupid because the wiki isn’t a reliable source of information as it’s written and edited by fans (literally their missing a old photo of lord X’s void form) there’s a reason i didn’t include much information from the wiki because alot of it is wrong and theirs evidence to prove connections without it. I’m certainly gonna have to make a video discussing this topic and correct stuff. No offence to the creator we all make mistakes.

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

@@SuperLeechGuy hey. I run the wiki. I talked to both Raven and Joe to get our info. I'd like to talk to you in private regarding the issues that we have, in order to improve. You think you can come over to the wiki server?

[@sboy2044]

@@SuperLeechGuyMaybe the writer meant X and “Sonic” and how they went down different paths from the same origin, but due to referring to X in the past tense due to him making his debut before “Sonic”, they unintentionally made it sound like they were part of the same timeline?

[@Smols828]

Sonic pc is literally a non canon sequel to sonic 2011 also 2011 x is no longer the creator of EXE lord x is now he father of EXE

[@Kappertheprotogen]

Alright, i'ma go on a yapp session to explain it. Key points: their are two mutliverses: FNF and 2011 FNF: 2011x exists and eventually meets BF and GF (The rest will be determined in the mod) 2011:2011 is the main timeline, this can get long so get ready. 2011:2011x does his thing and now can take 3 broad routes:old, idle,Insanity Idle:bro goes through no changes 💀(neutral ending?) Insanity:2011 eventuly convinces himself that he is actually sonic and becomes 2017x Old: 2011 gets old and now can take 3 routes (not again 💀) life, Guardians, and Interrupted. Life: 2011 becomes Lord X but instead of creating the Guardians he makes Faker, faker does his thing and Lord X stops him. Guardians: 2011 becomes Lord X and makes the Guardians (good ending?) Interrupted: 2011 starts to become Lord X but is interrupted by... Bendao? Bendedo? Fuck it "eggman" and becomes Lord Mordis, makes the resistance and continues to fight (bad ending?) Hope it helps... maybe

[@thegeneraljohn2895]

In short, the canon of Sonic.exe is a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff.

[@bontonexofficial5075]

Going to comment before I watch to compare what I am (vaguely) aware of to the vid’s info IIRC Xenophanes is an entirely new take on Sonic.exe, and completely unconnected to the rest (despite being official) Now the origin point / progenitor of most of these is X, an intradimensional being that takes on the appearance of sonic to get closer to their targets. He appears in a direct remake of Sonic.exe, where he’s named 2011X From there is: -The primary timeline of Lord X, in which X is left unchallenged, Tom gets the video game, dies to X, who builds up a hell of his own making. +The character EXE is still in the works, he’s probably been rewritten since and this info is likely outdated, but IIRC they were just a spawn of Lord X. They feel mutual hate of one another -An alternate timeline where X is shown up by another being named Bandado (whom takes over the Eggman vessel) and loses control of his world, as the latter believed that he was using such a world improperly. The video game doesn’t get to Tom until ~8 years later(?) where he meets & cooperates with the morally dubious Lord Mortis. -The 2017X timeline where he becomes so infatuated/obsessed with the games where he outright believes that he is Sonic, in the world of Sonic, and is outright called “Sonic” - seeing anything that contradicts that as the problem. X if he was a superfan Will watch and see if I was right edit: right for the most part

[@sboy2044]

2017 X is part of a completely separate canon

[@PCCrasher42069]

There are three sonic.exe canons. 2011X, 2017X, and Xenophanes, who is on hiatus. They are all non-canon to eachother and are in completely different universes and stories. Lord X is 2011x from the future in a sort of official hypothetical situation. Lord Mortis is an au made by somebody else that is officially supported by Joe and is seen as a sort of official alternate universe. It’s not *that* complicated P.S i do understand that the wiki states that 2017x is related to x; this is not true. The exe wiki is not official to these exes, but i can understand the confusion.

[@SuperLeechGuy]

Thank you for making this I thought I was the only one that picked up on the mistakes. I don’t understand why people are confused though. The wiki isn’t cannon plan and simple it’s owned by fans (why else would they need to wait for Astra to finish making the Xenophanes lore or why lord X’s page doesn’t have the old image of lord X’s void form. And you can tell because under legacy’s page they say lord X can’t change back to his old forms but he can. Which is completely wrong because, 1. Lord X’s form in the old SonicPC port version where he splits in half the purple being inside looks similar to 2011’s” true form” that originates from the exe iceberg. 2. Lord X’s vessel goes through a life cycle each time it’s replaced and. 3. In both Sonic pc port and SonicPC, Lord X changes his colour gaining his red gloves. How people can’t understand this baffles me

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

@@PCCrasher42069 2017X is a void entity, making him a variant of X by default

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

@@SuperLeechGuy where do we say that

[@PCCrasher42069]

@@EpicKMetalSonic ???????

[@EpicKMetalSonic]

@@PCCrasher42069 you don't even know what a void entity is???

[@SonicZuki]

I had to watch thia twice to fully understand I'm glad videos like this for me to truly understand Sonic exe

[@liamsanimationstudio]

The X from Trichael isn't actually Lord X, its an alternate version named Meritless X. Meritless X needs more souls constantly to stay alive while Lord X forces himself to decay so he has an excuse to make the cycle repeat eventually, but Meritless X in Trichael is when he dies, which leads to the universe being reset except for his memories and the cycle happening all over again. The reason Lord X abandons Faker/EXE is less that he's scared, but he more or less see's him as a failure, with his Guardians being the second attempt. I recommend checking out Anton2fangs' Rapture with Lyrics (Anton is the main composer of Lord X's Wrath), as I'm pretty sure he goes more into detail on their differences in the description as well as giving us insight on Meritless X's thought process. Lord X himself sees the player as a weird twisted friend as the player is the reason that he can kill everyone again and again and again, but Meritless X sees players as a means to get more life force, only really becoming sentimental during the end of a cycle.

[@Smols828]

The lord x in tricheal is not meritless x

[@liamsanimationstudio]

@@Smols828 It was retconned to be so. (Mainly since him being sentimental clashed with his character, especially at the time)

[@Smols828]

@@liamsanimationstudio lord x wrath isnt canon to tricheal

[@Bombs-GoBOOM]

"How To Evolve Your Sonic.EXE: The Guide"

[@NoodleDev]

In short words, when the sonic.exe drama happened back in i think 2021 or something, the original sonic.exe was split into three different exe's and one of them is the actual main exe, which is 2011X. 2017X and Xenophanes are also those other counterparts but 2011X is the main one, and he branches off into two timelines the Lord Mortis one, which is a past timeline, and the lord X one which is a future timeline, and you could also say 2011X created faker/EXE and I'd assume EXE only exists in Lord X's timeline though.

[@gamer-IRIS36]

I always used to think that JoeDough wasJohnDough and that made me think of John Doe the roblox hacker

[@bobono]

i'm gonna be so real i zoned out after the 10th time he said x

[@RandomNoNamePT]

Wouldn't it be more understandable and even better if it was just 2011X -> Lord X -> 2017X (with Lord Mortis as a what-if) Because it would be a clear timeline

[@cyberplayer9626]

Not fnf related, but the Nightmare series from Jaiz Koys is an even bigger mess to follow.

[@bielriadh13]

I cant take serious the "all-father" i dont know, i just think him bad

[@Rickzak2560]

Its a cannon event dun don't ruin the cannon event 🤣💀 anyways great vid also i know this isn't related but a mod called sns erect recently dropped and its freaking amazing you should add it to your list its worth playing

[@HonorJanas]

It’s indeed weird.

[@MagnitudElemental]

Who are all this characters? Since when FNF became a Sonic horror game? I don't understand anything this guy says, even tho he sounds so convienced and invested in this lore.

[@maksimstecenko7717]

Man, I'm sure you give a lot of energy in this video, and I'm sorry, I might be stupid, I still don't get it and fell confused, I watched it to the end and liked tho

[@random.rat541]

i more confused now than before

[@roycecarlomeneses1311]

At this point, this take on Sonic.exe or 2011X in general is a straight up Pokémon. with each of these different branching paths of forms for 2011X to take. You might as well just label All of them just Sonic.Exe and call it a day.

[@christophermetcalf7540]

So... Which one is like... The "Main" Sonic.exe...? Like, what's the Prime Timeline in the "Exe-Verse"? 2011X?