The Connection Psychedelics Have to Early Christianity, Christmas

[@brysonmyers6835]

We need to get Jesus on the podcast

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The janitor?

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@@allupinya5938 The carpenter

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@@jimoneprism oh Jesus!

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@@jimoneprism lmaoooooooo

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The catheter?

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Even when our phones are 100% turned off, they can still listen to us and track us 24/7! Plus, the harmful EMF to our bodies

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Look it up on KZbin: ULTIMATE DEVICE SHIELDING - FARADAY BAG FOR PHONE - Anti-Hacking / Anti-Tracking

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@@PREISINGPRODUCTIONSsince1912 great video man!

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@@Alvin-xs7db we all do

[@budfox2337]

Spotify is a step down for us, no comments is terrible. I like the comments almost as much as the interviews. Spotify will edit out what they view as inappropriate, censorship !

[@donn1473]

Yeah the comment section will be very missed.. so much humour and discussions just gone.. sad. I wonder if he has any rights to upload highlight clips atleast, that would be good

[@GTV247]

I also agree. Will miss the comments

[@connerb1292]

A lot of this will have to move to the jre subreddit

[@xxD3Vxx]

Just watch his podcasts on KZbin... why even use Spotify.

[@donn1473]

@@xxD3Vxx He wont legally be allowed to upload episeodes on youtube after new years. You wont be able to watch it on youtube since He signed a contract that says his show will exclusively be hosted on spotify

[@xjuice_leex]

That's it. We're taking psychedelics this year for Christmas, boys.

[@effortlessawareness8778]

Amen brotha

[@mikeayia8819]

Your good

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God Bless

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Err day boi

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And girls 😘

[@woozie._.]

Bro gram Hancock came outta no where I’m watching the whole episode now

[@dawb86]

lol bro my sentiments EXACTLY!!! 😂😂💯

[@acaiirose5761]

Lmaaao

[@markymark591]

His been on the show before at lest twice one time with Randal Carlson both very very interesting

[@howiseetheworld3581]

LOOOOOOOOOL I had the exact same reaction!!!

[@huntermediaphotography]

Dolittle Finch @grahamhancock just materialized like Magic

[@VlogCreations]

“One Corinthians “

[@ELMatadiablos]

Watch him quote corinthians “the sequel”

[@Smokeyxz]

Hey Ross 👋

[@TheGreatThree8]

Hey dad

[@ggrandom6881]

Hey what are you doing here? Go make funny video, funny man 😡 😡 😡 😡

[@jeffersonsmith7362]

let me get a kiss

[@ericnordean88]

On my 4th and final trip on Happy caps I changed my life for the better and never turned back... I experienced myself minus the world’s expectations and quit cigarettes as a pack a day smoker like flipping off a light switch. It’s been more than 10 years and I still haven’t touched shrooms or cigs. I’m not claiming that going on a trip will change your life for the better every time or even that everyone should try them. Just that for me the effect was very positive. I saw the future as I could predict it and changed it permanently for the one person I could, myself.

[@conorwatters3474]

that's the nice thing about happy caps - you don't have to drink a shaman's urine

[@raytracer2651]

Bill burr reckoned they sorted him out too.

[@timharper4246]

They quite literally saved my life from suicidal depression and a crushing opiate, alcohol and cigarette addiction. Have been sober from all of that for almost 15 years. I'm not opposed to mushrooms but I haven't done them in 6 or more years, now. Maybe it's time for another experience!

[@ericnordean88]

@@timharper4246 happy to hear stories like this bro! Keep keeping on and stay strong man

[@ffhhhbbfxfggggfdddffffffff]

@@timharper4246 man reading stuff like this hypes me up for the future and makes me happy ive made all the changes i have made and thankful others do everyday as well. health is everything bro its a blessing yo kick half the shitp

[@rlenclub]

the first question Joe Rogan would ask Jesus if he came back would be "HAVE YOU EVER DONE DMT"

[@MrJwyne]

Then Jesus sayeth, “I am DMT”

[@pattp.7358]

Hebrews 6:19 "I speak to you my faithful followers, I am tripping balls on this magical creation my Father has created."

[@Jerry-eb8vf]

Nah it’d be “Did u see me while I was on DMT?”

[@kevinhickers6645]

Yeah , me and Moses .

[@ThetennisDr]

how you not heard about the rapture in a twinkle of an eye jesus will pull us out of the world and meet us catching us in the air so we will be forever with the lord. similar to DMT but w JESUS> for ever for real. .ike dying and becoming spirits >HOLY spirits.

[@casinoboys5867]

The new studio looks like a giant toaster oven.

[@gremlin1689]

Hot take of the century

[@funart6210]

Have you seen this clip of Lex telling Joe that his New Studio sucks?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGOppHufYqhri6c

[@tyleerio]

Yeah. What's happened to the old one 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@bryanluntz1603]

The inside of a hair curler

[@worm3165]

Its Darth Maul's tanning booth

[@AM23.]

That was one of the best dialogues on Rogan's show in a while

[@samuelneitor1]

Agree

[@austin68smith1]

Jocky Rohnson take a trip buddy. You might get your answer to your belief in an afterlife.

[@cosmiccomedy7394]

@Jocky Rohnson how about dying and going into the infinite everything.

[@austin68smith1]

Jocky Rohnson they are all around my guy. If you don’t know anyone you gotta start low and keep working your way up to the distributors Edit: don’t go to you neighborhood crackhead.

[@adamJKpunk]

Because he finally got someone besides hillbillies spitting dip and talking about how cool the marines are.

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This man came prepared!! This is one of my favorite podcasts so far

[@penitent1889]

I’m no linguist, so I can’t dispute the etymological connection claimed. But the thing is we have plenty of writings of guys who were personally taught by and made bishops by the apostles (Ignatius of Antioch, Pope Clement of Rome), and they never allude to anything like psychedelics. I think it’s easier to believe the apostles were willing to be martyred because they saw Christ risen from the dead rather than for a psychedelic experience.

[@patrickallen4445]

Early Christianity was a political organization founded by Greco Romans 100 years later. Why do you think does it says render to Caesar what is Caeser’s?

[@bryand7005]

Christ rising from the dead was written into the King James version for spin. It wasn't in the original text. The story ended in the cave

[@penitent1889]

Patrick Allen I’m not getting into an argument in KZbin comments, but I’ll share why that seems improbable to me. Christianity was very inconvenient to the Roman authorities hence why they persecuted Christians so hard. We can see this in St. Justin Martyr’s pleas to the Roman authorities in his “First Apology” (~150 AD) as he explains what Christianity is and why it shouldn’t be persecuted. It seems counterproductive that the Romans would create Christianity just to try to wipe it out. Also, we know from other surviving writings of the early Church clergy that a form of an institutional Church already existed in the first century. One piece of evidence is St. Ignatius of Antioch (taught by St. John the beloved disciple) reminding the faithful to “See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbyters as ye would the apostles” in ~110 AD (Epistle to the Smyrnaeans). Yes, it is at the dawn of the 2nd century, but it reads like a reminder of a long-lived understanding.

[@penitent1889]

Bryan D King The KJV is goofy, but that claim is easily disproven. Just Google “Early Church Fathers” and “resurrection,” and you’ll find dozens of places where 1st-5th century Saints write about the resurrection. The KJV wasn’t published until 1611 AD. One example of the results you can find is Pope St. Clement of Rome in his Letter to the Corinthians in 80 AD: “[T]he Master is continually proving to us that there will be a future resurrection, of which he has made the Lord Jesus Christ the firstling, by raising him from the dead.”

[@penitent1889]

Patrick Allen I thought you said the Romans made Him up? And if they were liars, they probably would have lied to avoid being martyred. Anyways, as the great convert from Anglicanism, St. John Henry Newman, put it, “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.”

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been waiting for graham hancock to be back on, THANK YOU!

[@bigburdi]

Hey Joe, thank you so much for sitting with Wes Huff, can't wait to see that interview!! Great choice!

[@NickSandt]

The relationship between religion and magic is something that most people probably don’t think about. The relationship between magic and shamanism however is probably commonly considered and more easily understood. I’m sure most people have a general idea of the Bible’s stance on sorcery (seeing how popular Harry Potter has been over the past decade or two and the backlash it’s received from the church or maybe they’ve learned about the Salem witch trials) but fail to understand what sorcery actually is-the Greek word for sorcery is “pharmakeia” -the word where we get “pharmacy” and “pharmaceuticals” from. Think about that for a minute. The New Testament was written in Greek . . . if you wanna know the truth you gotta be prepared to dig and do your research

[@Aithis.]

Christianity is very steeped in “magic” and heavily influenced (stolen) from paganism. Rituals such as drinking the blood of Jesus etc

[@NickSandt]

WhiteNoise Right, I just want to clarify that Catholicism is the brand of Christianity that has borrowed from paganism. I’m a Protestant Christian and the popular view of religion vs magic within the church is as 🔥 and 💦 but I see them being more like Coke and Pepsi

[@DnVFMVs]

So drugs and pills are the closest thing we will come to " Magic? " explian yourself sorcerer

[@1guitar12]

I did...and the original New Testament was originally composed in Aramaic (and some parts Hebrew too) and then translated into Greek. So the shroom connection doesn’t pass the litmus, but still a killer high.

[@domiii489]

I think only a few people will ever truly understand the Bible. Like u said magic is a very big topic yet its very misunderstood. Jesus was an occultist and an alchemist. I learned a lot about the magis (=magic) wich we all know visited Jesus as a baby. I don't think that I will every truly understand the Bible but I got for sure a different view about it

[@alediazofficial2562]

As for the relation to Shamanic traditions, at least in Finland, their Santa Claus is supposed to originate from the North of Finland, which is also where a lot of the native Sámi people live and they do have traditions from shamanism and many are known to be Reindeer shepards. Amanita also grows in Finland.

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Every day I think existence scares me more.

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It would be strange if something as profound and grand as existence didnt scare you

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GOOD

[@mrrec0very956]

What always was always has been, regardless of whether we perceive it or not

[@nneverso]

@@wcw7813 holy fucking shit thats the most unconvincing bait ever

[@soulsuccess]

I highly recommend looking up podcasts/interviews with Darren LeBaron. He's a researcher who goes deeper into the past than Brian did (although he did amazing work with his research) as he delved into ancient Egypt (who ancient Greece acquired much of their knowledge from) and central and southern Africa. For anyone who's looking to dive deeper.

[@nextgenfootball69420]

joe rogan should have winona ryder on the show, her father worked with timothy leary (psychedelic researcher) and she basically grew up around people like that, would be cool to hear her experience as she already mentioned a little about in an interview

[@jesseaparicio2180]

Wow I didn't know that ! She's very entertaining too that would be a fun episode !

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jesse aparicio yeah initially I was afraid that the more I get to know her I would not like her as much, but my love for her just amplified explosively once I found out she was part of us

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@@nextgenfootball69420 interesting! I didn’t know that. I’m also scared to look into Hollywood players but I’ll definitely look into her.

[@ioannisfugazi6952]

Oh yeah- my guy Graham Hancock! Been a while since I listened to a full JRE episode but will be downloading this one tout suite.

[@jopo7996]

With all the evidence there isn't mushroom for argument. The morel of the the story is Jesus was a fun guy.

[@SmokesDankInACave]

Wise guy

[@icorrectly]

I wager your puns are lost on many. Props

[@kevinwright3615]

Let's drop a tab and visit heaven!

[@dawb86]

@Jo Po Shrooms, water into wine AND he took the fall for the rest of the crew? Jesus is the big homie to say the least... 😂💯

[@1jediwitch]

~Very droll~ 🍄🎅🎄🎁

[@_I.M.]

Guessing Spotify didn’t like Paul Stamets either..

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Dan oz ok

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@Dan oz stfu lol

[@ghostinameatsuit4654]

I actually JUST found the episode. It's still there!

[@redguyphil1]

Amanita Muscaria is actually far more effective when processed, in yogurt with lactobascillus. It converts all of the ibotenic acid to muscarine in the process and is likely the same thing done to produce SOMA. That also being one reason why cows were sacred in many cultures including India.

[@SahilP2648]

Also cow dung has much more chances of sprouting psilocybin mushrooms in the wild. I am not sure if farmers find these whenever it rains in India or not. But it would make sense that cows are sacred because of this reason.

[@fumarate1]

do you use plain yogurt?

[@josephvillines9766]

it may be a reason but no the reason ...these cows or bulls go away deeper than psychedelics waay deeper

[@SahilP2648]

@@josephvillines9766 what do you mean?

[@josephvillines9766]

@@SahilP2648 the main reason cows and bulls are worship in ancient cosmology is not for mushrooms or any other physical reason its was a science and spiritual reason ....had alot to do with the nothing and flat earth cosmology which we should a know the whole world at those times thought the same way.....in fact we didn't drink milk until the outsider came in and saw their works and took the literature of ancient ppls literally amd this is why we have the religioms we see today at least part of the reason anyway ....the bull is Toroaka Taurus using etymology we know they were talking about the toroidal field known today as the eltri magnetic field around the earth ....I'm no the best to explain this but I do know what I am talking about ...look up bro. sanchez tv on here and he goes into full details.....

[@Jerryberger9235]

Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here

[@georgewilliams1062]

Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.

[@zoeywinston6826]

LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."

[@sarahh321]

[_James_tray] Got psychs

[@Jerryberger9235]

@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?

[@sarahh321]

@@Jerryberger9235 Yes

[@Vegitobluuuuu]

As a Aramaic speaker I’m glad it’s getting the respect it deserves..

[@matthijsvanemous7046]

peshitta for the win

[@dartheater7348]

אנא

[@cheg6057]

fascinating language teach it to your children greetings from a kurd we are like neighbors much love

[@Vegitobluuuuu]

@@cheg6057 of course much love to you too brakim

[@joeleonard5345]

Psychedelics are so important. They are the key to the spirit and raising concisness. It's a crime against humanity that these tools are prohibited. You can reach these states through deep meditation but is difficult as is takes so much time and determination. Psychedelics are the cheat code. Keep in mind they MUST be used properly. If you want these tools to work properly for you, you must study conciseness and practice meditation. Psychedelics will change the world drastically if people open their minds and hearts.

[@matthijsvanemous7046]

mushrooms can make you experience stuff....but who says those experiences are the truth. Maybe they are influenced by demons

[@eliasekstrom6660]

No you don't have to study meditation. You can just smoke the damn dmt, and be humble for the experience.

[@greenthumbpatriot3295]

I’d love to see Joe Rogan take DMT and try to talk to Jesus, wouldn’t that be a great episode?

[@Roquea.207]

Im 100 agree with you

[@zachfort2060]

"Professing to be wise, they became fools"

[@krisrose1518]

Tell myself this every once in a while

[@zachfort2060]

@@krisrose1518 I don't know what kind of "bible scholar" doesn't realize the bible specifically says not to partake in pharmacia (drugs) and root cutting also psychedelics were listed under the same category as witchcraft. No surprise they always talk about seeing "entities" when they take them. Believers all know what they really are

[@unseen575]

Very true. These being are real and the thing is the Lord shows them to people, but only to those whom he wants to.

[@GandRpictures]

For some reason I also felt that quote applies perfectly for the 20th century and the 21st century 🤔.

[@zachfort2060]

@U WISH everyone drank wine back then the Bible says not to be drunk. Theres nothing wrong with a glass of wine. And its grape juice in churches

[@Pheer777]

As an (more of less) atheist it's sad that people don't know about the early mystical and esoteric traditions associated with Christianity and its gnostic sects, because it's actually way more captivating than the mainstream surface-level teachings people get today.

[@jacintofernandes2907]

Is there anything or anywhere I can learn more about it?

[@Pheer777]

@@jacintofernandes2907 Look up Nag Hammadi library and Gnosticism. The Nag Hammadi Library was an assortment of texts found I think in the 30s that contained a bunch of previously unknown Christian books such as the Book of Judas, which completely changes the tone and narrative of what people associate with traditional Christian teachings.

[@theabsorbingman2492]

All new age bullshit

[@MartinRodriguez-cu6vl]

This stuff is fascinating, thanks for sharing where to find more info

[@matheusmotta1132]

Those traditions offer nothing but occult, esoteric, kept knowledge initiation type of thing. Doesn't help nor transform anyone. Only the Gospel saves and transforms the life of a person, and it's been doing this for 2000 years.

[@chelseaw3865]

This is really good I’m gonna have to listen to the whole podcast lol

[@Sayless579]

This guy looks like Spongebob's cousin Stanley

[@BilbosaurGaming]

I’m dead 😂

[@JohnSmith-ul3tz]

Don’t disrespect Stanley like that.

[@arielshummer3822]

Have you seen this clip of Lex telling Joe that his New Studio sucks?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGOppHufYqhri6c 🔥 😂

[@MrJwyne]

Had to google it ....glad I did 😄

[@fyb3rotik]

Fucking gold

[@corinnehill8565]

I lived at Fairbanks Alaska my husband worked at Prudhoe Bay... We went mushroom hunting... And we were successful... It was a wonderful amazing trip... What a score... Peace Luvs aunti

[@MM-yl9gn]

Maybe thats why on the Deer Stones, they're "flying" reindeer and all the stone henges are concentric in the order of mushroom growth. Deer shit in the tundra got them through winter alright. 🤣

[@archiebah6553]

I've had potent doses of a wide range of psychedelics and I can say personally that the most powerful experience I've ever had was from aminita muscaria

[@thebeanienation548]

Which psychedelics have you tried?

[@fumarate1]

I take Aminita and Psilocybins there both healing my brain after frying it to meth for many years what a journey.

[@marley1995]

It’s a deliriant not a psych.

[@BreeMorgan43]

Where do you get it? I've tried all hallucinagenic drugs under the sun, but I have never heard of this

[@marley1995]

@@BreeMorgan43 someone has to grow it or find it. Honestly it’s not what you’re thinking. It’s a straight poison makes you feel drunk and out of it.

[@philipebanks2125]

Ok so i didn’t know graham was on this episode or anything and then he pops out right at the perfect time when it was starting to get good I was like hell yea this is great!

[@SakkiDuran]

My grandma had a lot of amanita muscaria figures and decorations for Christmas. Now I get it.

[@ven.austinelayno]

Amanita Muscaria is known to be found in the Northern Hemisphere (Asia, Europe, North America) However Israel, being geographically located in the Middle East, has a climate that may not be the most conducive for the growth of Amanita Muscaria. These mushrooms are often associated with boreal and temperate forests, especially those with coniferous trees.

[@yangskeletor9171]

Agree. What guys like Allegro couldn't know is that other psychedelic mushrooms are more likely the solution to the question, related to certain areas/parts of the world: 1. Liberty cap (Psilocybe semilanceata) 2. Cuban bald head(?) (Psilocybe cubensis (previously known as Stropharia cubensis)) 1. Psilocybe semilanceata is found in: Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, the Channel Islands, Czech republic, Denmark, Estonia, the Faroe Islands, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, the United Kingdom and Ukraine. It is generally agreed that the species is native to Europe (see late Neolithic mushroom-like rock engravings/petroglyphes in Valcamonica, northern Italy/South-Tirol; likely 33.000ya or less(?)) (see Bernward Doors: the two leaves of a pair of Ottonian or Romanesque bronze doors, made c. 1015 for Hildesheim Cathedral in Germany) There are astonishing and obvious depictions of mushrooms in the Ravennatic churches of late antiquity; Early Christian churches in Rome and Ravenna - 4th century (just to name the very beginning/appearance (of mushrooms depicted in christian art) in Europe): No Amanita! Also at St. Mark's Basilica, Venice, Italy .. aso. 2. This groundbreaking discovery is also very important: The answer, to which plant Soma (Haoma) (Eleusinian mysteries) was made with, was found in a tomb of a noble woman buried in an elite burial site of the Xiongnu, the famous nomads of Central Asia. There, archaeologists and participants in the Russian-Mongolian expedition led by Natalia Polosmak found the outlines of textile relics on the underside of the burial chamber. The surprisingly good condition is almost a miracle. The biggest surprise, however, was the unique wool embroidery. Its pattern depicts an ancient Zoroastrian ceremony whose main character was a mushroom. The “divine mushroom” embroidered on the carpet resembles the well-known psychoactive species "Psilocybe cubensis". The weight of evidence suggests that Soma, the ancient ritual drink, was made from the mushrooms of the Strophariaceae family. The latest and last known depiction of mushrooms in Christian art can be found on the cast bronze door wing on the west portal of Bremen Cathedral "St. Petri Dom" (1895-1898) (apprentice mason/master builder in the "Cologne Dombauhütte": Peter Dominicus Fuchs). They show the mushroom "Psilocybe cubensis" several times. The species originally comes from tropical Africa. As a cultural successor to livestock breeding (beginning in the Neolithic: the period of domestication of animals, at least 10.000-15.000ya), the species has spread everywhere in the tropics where livestock farming was/is practiced and also further as a cultural asset for initiation rites around Eurasia. (see as mentioned above "Noyon Ula burial site" / Zoroastrian) (see Psi. cubensis connected to "Eleusinian mysteries" / Greek) (see Basilica of Sant' Apollinare in Classe, Ravenna, northern Italy) (see late Neolithic mushroom-like rock engravings/petroglyphes in Valcamonica, northern Italy/South-Tirol) (see depictions of St. Petri Cathedral in Bremen, Germany) But "Amanita muscaria" can be found as well: (see "hitda codex" from Meschede, around 1020, Darmstadt, Germany) (see ceiling painting of the Church of St. Michael in Hildesheim, Germany) aso, Bless you mate 🙏

[@briannoecker7149]

Bought the book, The Immortality Key and looking forward to reading it. Great podcast!

[@castillocastillo4876]

@U WISH do you even know the contents of that book?

[@HubbubAudioLibrary]

It's important to remember that the Jewish people were in exile in Babylon for a very long time. Babylon did carry Sumerian concepts forward and the Hebrew people took these same ideals and rebranded with their cultural lens. We can't only look at origin of language or isolates in determining connection as when cultures are intertwined for a long period shared concepts emerge.

[@shueibdahir]

👏👏👏

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

No proof that is when the religion developed, only when it was written down. All the repetition in the first five books are proof of an oral tradition. It is also heavily influenced by the Egyptian religion. The arc of the covenant is based on an Egyptian bark. If the religion developed in Babylon why would it have several Egyptian characteristics?

[@HubbubAudioLibrary]

@@silencemeviolateme6076 The Jewish people were in exile in Egypt as well and would have eventually rebranded several of their traditions within the Hebrew construct as well. It's not that the Religion was created in Babylon, or wherever, it's just that ideas get borrowed. Their oral traditions would simply become interwoven with the cultural baggage under which they were subjugated for generations. This includes the early Sumerian traditions which spread to Babylon (also rebranded by Babylonians to fit their traditions) and beyond.

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

@@HubbubAudioLibrary that still makes no sense. According to the bible Abraham came from sumeria. The beginning of Genesis is the sumerian part. Then Abraham's great grandkids wind up in Egypt. That is the rest of Genesis and the first five books. But you want to propose the influence isn't represented chronologically? They were in Egypt hundreds of years before Babylon but they took Babylonian influences for only the first two stories and that just happens to coincide with the time of Abraham? That just seems silly. Why not as the bible says? The influence is commentary anyway. It isn't a simple copy or a rewrite. It is a direct attack against the sumerian creation myth. In the flood enki is mad humans are waking him up by being noisy. In the bible humans are immoral. Again that isn't cut and paste. That is a completely different myth. In a few hundred years they incorporated a complex, foundational myth? Everything from Egypt would have had to have been updated. All to attack their captors' religion?

[@HubbubAudioLibrary]

@@silencemeviolateme6076 what we have are documents and the Sumerian and Babylon records are older no matter how a story reads. The juxtaposition of Abraham in Sumeria could easily be an interwoven artifact. Regardless, when you actually take the time to read the Sumerian creation myth, the Babylonian creation myth and then compare to the Hebrew creation myth, you'll see that the younger Hebrew source material borrowed from the older. It's beautiful to see how they connect. Myth is meant to hold wisdom and is very flexible with content, style and fluid details to convey the meaning. There are myriads of redactions, edits and packaging of stories especially in the Hebrew tradition. Even the Jewish Priests don't take any of it literally, it's more like a poem that connects you to deeper meaning. This also commonly occured in early Greek writing which is why we have Plato's Socretes. There's a strong probability that Socretes was just a literary device used by Plato to elaborate his philosophy. It uses real places, times, people and is completely fictionalized but that wasn't the point. The point is what it means.

[@g-hopark7809]

Why has this episode 1543 been taken down?? Govt isn’t even being lowkey about it anymore🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lightbeforethetunnel]

They just take stuff down that they don't want the public knowing about. Check out Operation Mockingbird to learn how the CIA controls the media

[@fatguybob2778]

Yeah, it’s on Spotify. Doesn’t have comments but still has video

[@Vendelzor]

We still use to decorate our christmas candles with moss and small plastic red/white mushrooms🍄 in my swedish family

[@blahblah4129]

This was such a great episode!!!

[@joewat3982]

The Greatest thing to come out of Brian Muraresku being in JRE & the success of his book is the *he proved to his Wife that he was right* 🍺 Men, Women that Love 'em, Raise a Pint 🍻

[@santaclaus3077]

I hope you all keep being respectful and continue to do good deeds. Ill make sure to bring you something extra special this year! Your friend, Santa Claus 🎅

[@andrejm77]

Bring me I30N Santa!

[@kevinhickers6645]

Huayhuaska or DMT .... HoHoHo n away !

[@TheDrifter250]

@@kevinhickers6645 I do believe you mean Ayahuasca

[@exist888]

He’s talked about this before you guys can check it out later if you want.

[@maryjane5754]

JR: I read Allegro Guest: Did you?

[@bethbartlett5692]

Rogan! You so impress me! This is one awakened Academic, Brian Murarasku. I just recently discovered him through Harvard.

[@tristambre632]

Oh I missed Mr. Hancock, I'm glad to see him on this show again ^^

[@jonathanarnold5078]

facts, he’s the goat

[@alediazofficial2562]

I was under the impression that the red and white Santa Claus was a marketing push by Coca Cola way back when they began their early christmas campaigns because of the Coca Cola color scheme. A genius way to make people associate that product with the holiday season. Ever since I moved to Europe, I have encountered many iterrations of Santa Claus, most commonly known as either 'Father Christmas', 'Grandpa or Old Man Winter', 'Papa Noah (papá Noe)', 'Saint Nicolas' or something random like "The christmas goat (joulupukki)" as the Finns call it lol etc. Most of these are depicted with blue, green or white robes or goat skins like the aforementioned Finnish joulupukki. North America and thus some latinamerican countries have the red and white version and I think that at least to a great extend, it was influence by Coca Cola. They perhaps did not come up with this version but definitely helped popularize it. Before Coca Cola, can you find as many examples or referrences to a white and red Santa Claus as being the more universally recognized?

[@newusernamehere4772]

I think the red and white actually comes from the Amanita Muscaria mushroom which reindeer would eat and then piss out the active chemical which has been used as a traditional hallucinogen.

[@jamesrojas2770]

yes lol those christmas cards they were talking about was before coca cola

[@joashm4222]

What about KFC bruhh

[@welcomehomerealestate]

WTF!!! I had no clue Graham Handcock was also in this conversation! (I didn't read the description) I literally jumped from my chair when I saw him haha He should be on stand by for every conversation

[@corinnehill8565]

Always remember... No Fear... Merry Christmas... I have my grandma's book... The Dead Sea Scrolls by Millar Burrows 1956 a very good year... The year that I was born... Merry Christmas.... luvs aunti

[@abhishek5887]

When I heard Hancock’s voice, I immediately went to spotify

[@Creeper308]

"All I need is some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine." -Jeff Spicolli

[@rooneye]

That thing about the urine getting you high. Ancient Siberian tribes used to drink reindeer urine after the reindeers had eaten a lot of mushrooms and they'd get high af from it.

[@nicotopcat1188]

That's so weird. I always made it a tradition to trip at Christmas time and be closer to God! I thought it was just me but when I examine it a little closer there was something in everybody's eyes. Oh man! The weird dreams and everything were God saying; "It's alright..."

[@brennenhammer2415]

Yes God is extremely evident on psychedelics

[@nosformahtu]

i’m so high i noticed graham hancock in the background @ 3:05 and thought i was tripping balls 😂

[@nickdefiler796]

In Mtskheta, Georgia in Church called Svetitskhoveli you will find some of the weirdest frescoes ever and in many other Georgian old churches too

[@itsahzthing3433]

Someone told me that the Christmas tree was brought in as a drying rack for the shrooms and that on Christmas Day the entire family would partake including the kids! Sounds like a helluva good time!

[@itsahzthing3433]

Rhizosphere ya the red colors even when dry are pretty colorful, replaced with our oh so fun glass bulbs! Man I wish I could locate !

[@sabu1378]

I’m trying to imagine a modern day version of this. Picture yourself with your significant other and children tripping on shrooms together at the end of the year as tradition. Whatever times those were were wild!

[@itsahzthing3433]

sabu137 I can’t think that it would have been anything but something to look forward to! Kids must have loved it !

[@itsahzthing3433]

sabu137 never too late to start your own tradition😃

[@trippycity5355]

Trippycity.com

[@t3hgir]

Yeshua, Jesus Christ is real and saved me. I give my life to him.

[@lethean333]

👍🏿nice.

[@AlaskanMayan]

Happy day when he came on you I mean in you. Open your heart

[@t3hgir]

@@AlaskanMayan thats all it took was opening my heart and seeing the truth thats always been in front of me

[@samuelgaldieri8212]

What I always found interesting and a little funny is that all the religious sightings/ visions/ communications with god ect. that are in the Bible that people just completely ignore the fact that all those could have just been someone tripping ....like they find it more likely that people actually talked to god than just accidentally ate the wrong mushroom or used the wrong leaves to make tea...

[@SahilP2648]

Didn't you know that people were dumb af back then? And if you are saying "Oh but look at the pyramids" pyramids weren't built by humans. I would say we regressed going from Greek culture to the birth of Christianity. We had the philosophers of the time like Socrates and Plato among others who basically defined the ideal way of living and also the art of self introspection. This art of self introspection actually defies any other religion because it destroys any kind of belief. One of the statements from Socrates is- The only thing I know, is that I know nothing. Which could be comprehended in an infinite number of ways. But probably the one aspect of it which is in plain sight is that the world as we see and perceive it might not be the objective truth. Basically the simulation hypothesis before the concept of computers was even pondered. And then came Christianity with some bullcrap rules to follow and sin and whatnot.

[@ElLadoDerechoOFC]

Mm Do you believe in God?

[@ElLadoDerechoOFC]

@@SahilP2648 Jesus loves you bro

[@ElLadoDerechoOFC]

@@SahilP2648 philosophers why would you go with their thoughts?

[@ElLadoDerechoOFC]

@@SahilP2648 seems like your scared God might be real and your soul doomed.

[@AndreasRoet]

So here's a fun idea about the rain deers eating and tripping on mushrooms with a twist / link to a modern song: "Rudolf the red nosed reindeer lead us with your nose so bright" is a hint to Rudolf being the enlightened one who is under the influence of the mushrooms and the one being able to lead through the foggy night. Who else finds that curious?

[@mattmcd1627]

So you rip a verse from 1 Corinthians wayyy out of it's context and connect it to a psychedelic mushroom but ignore everything about being sober minded? Yals did too much mushroom and not enough research...

[@maxsiehier]

That's what they like to do. Cherry-picking. Or in their case, mushroom-picking.

[@lectorintellegat]

Just what I thought - I’m an academic theologian and of church history. This is absolute nonsense.

[@andreiluca3590]

Brian Muraresku never did any psychedelic, you do your research 😁

[@isaacj6551]

Well we don't want them to analyze the whole bible, it'd reveal all the plot holes and hypocrisy

[@euanharrison7125]

Confirmation bias

[@vickielawson3114]

I can see that Graham has on his bookshelf 2 books I have: TiHKAL and PiHKAL, which are books on scores of psychedelic chemicals synthesized by Alexander Shulgin and written by him. Cool stuff.

[@prashannadahal1624]

Hi Vickie, I have been interested in these books but I think it will be too difficult to understand for me. What do you think? Thanks,

[@semaj4324]

Jesus is Lord.

[@spookidrew4284]

Amen

[@nima5261]

YES

[@nima5261]

Amen

[@billbowser13]

No. Allahuakbar!

[@billbowser13]

@SMITH was just kidding

[@The_Not_So_Great_Cornholio]

Wouldn't climbing clumsily on someone's roof, creaking across it, climb-falling down a chimney, and emerging covered soot draw a lot more attention than just doing a quick hand-off at a side window or something? The connection is cool but it still makes as much sense as santa doing it.

[@Kal-El207]

Well a lot of the Shamans that practiced this were noticed a lot and banned from places, so doing that stuff at night and sneaking around was probably a lot more easier in their minds at that time. Plus houses weren’t as large or big as they are now. Sliding down a chimney now is a death sentence. Back then? It was probably way more simplistic.

[@DeepAscension]

@@Kal-El207 a lot of dugout or in other words half in half or of the ground houses still exist to this day. I lived in one, 🙄😳 somewhere. The ability to insulate against cold and heat is key in less advanced societies.

[@DJKronikCam710]

I'm currently reading the psychedelic gospels: the secret history of hallucinogens in Christianity it's soooo good! I completely recommend you read it

[@KingPingviini]

Book of false information. It's in human nature to find out conspiracies and secrets. Even the name of the book has "secret history". People fall in all kinds of conspiracies, because of the desire to find alternative information.

[@jfm1097]

What important things did you gather after the fact? Do you mind sharing

[@DoctorLexus2505]

It's all wrong

[@danielbarbieri8199]

In France in the Middle Ages there was an epidemic of rye ergot (natural LSD). People had visions, there was a period of great mysticism, Joan of Arc and many others had experiences under LSD without knowing it.

[@OklahomaHistoryLegends]

The correlation between Nimrod and Santa Claus is interesting. The unholy trinity of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz is the same as Osiris, Isis and Horus. The Tower of Babel is widely regarded to be the Ziggurat of Eridu. Truth is stranger than fiction. Ask Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley.

[@OklahomaHistoryLegends]

@R3d D0t As a geologist, someone is going to have a hard time convincing me the global flood didn't occur. How did clams get to the top of Everest? They aren't trekking through the Himalayas. Why are whales found in the desert in Chile? Hmmm.... That flood was at 3,290 B.C. but the Sumerian and Hebrew texts are saying the same thing. The PRE-Flood world and the 200 fallen angels that descended upon Mount Hermon in the days of Jared are the gods and titans in ancient mythology. "Mount Olympus" come to mind. Genesis 6:4 goes way out of its way to tell you exactly what happened.

[@jamesnewstead7099]

I think that aminita muscaria fermented in wine mixed with other psychedelics is what they were taking. Spiced wines were the drug of choice in the aincent world and fermentation could create some interesting changes in the chemical compound similar to the urine thing

[@CastroBlues]

The Psychedelic Gospels (by Jerry Brown and Julie Brown) was a VERY interesting read that follows Alegro's work, and further investigation of early christian sites. Seeing mushrooms in numerous ancient christian artistic works def support that mushrooms played an important part in early Christianity. Hard to prove as a lot of ancient texts that may have had something on this were largely destroyed. The catholic church, and Christianity as a whole, would have a LOT to lose if a radical idea such as this were to be proven. Society would have a hard time accepting this, but would benefit sooooooo much if they did. The world might have been a better place. Sacred mushrooms however do not align with the control of the masses, which is exactly what early Catholicism aimed for.

[@CastroBlues]

@@Rod3ntRat that’s your opinion

[@jordansthing]

i personally would have to disagree with society becoming a better place, as religion helps people through a lot of tough times and acts as a coping mechanism and a source of hope, you know? i feel like people would become much more depressed, suicide rates would increase, crime rates would increase, etc.

[@ElLadoDerechoOFC]

Luis just never leave God and yeah let's continue

[@queenieqt2033]

It wouldnt disaprove God at all. Because God put these compounds on the earth for us to find and experiment with. He made those mushrooms psychedelic. Who's to say that perhaps they are an essential tool to communicating with the Devine and perhaps even Him.

[@tomsissons3336]

I’m always looking for these types of joe videos

[@weiyuan20]

I'm beginning to think that Professor Sprout from Harry Potter was just in the greenhouses tripping balls between classes...

[@BurgerurgerFPV]

Can you hire me to build a new background in ur studio for every episode?

[@krissothegreat.3119]

How about Super Mario? .. droppin through portals .. powerring up off mushrooms. Them flashing lights being a trip in motion .. or nah? 🤣

[@toolbandtube]

This felt like an OG episode!

[@garagelifeink8331]

Excellent content thanks for sharing ✌️

[@Krzwulf]

Kinda defeats the whole christmas one when santa was never red until the 1800s.

[@edehe2370]

J I thought the whole reason christmas is associated with the color red nowadays is because of Coca Cola’s marketing starting in the early 20th century.

[@meandmynine_tm9684]

The modern version of Santa is red means it can not have been based on ancient traditions? It "defeats" nothing. The guy who designed the original Santa's (long before coca Cola's interference), took inspiration from earlier traditions, which those traditions were more than likely taken from earlier traditions. You are looking for there being a fat red dude from the start, when this dude could have been a female, dressed slightly different etc. What we do know is that these traditions are celebrated at the same time of year with similar colours. Long before 1800's Santa. Even st nick wore a tan and white trim robe. Next you'll be telling me the Scandinavians don't put mushroom designs on their Yule logs at Christmas. It's totally possible that mushroom is an Aminita muscaria, which is red. The tales of Rudolph's nose being red (from the mushroom's) comes long before 1800's Santa. But the colour red is associated with Christmas long before the 1800's. It's strange you think it's negates anything, it just reinforces it that they keep using the colour linked to mushroom's festivals for that time of year.

[@SeanOCallaghan0106]

0:21 Joe "i did my homework" Rogan

[@nacho_kalina]

Love this kind of content on youtube. Really good information. Thx

[@andresgomez4216]

This is actually super interesting

[@billybillson2134]

Allegro was a maverick, he was ahead of his time..✨

[@yvngxenoo]

3:07 idk why but just seeing graham right there on the screen killed me 💀

[@kissfan8675309]

Bro me too lol

[@cindysue5079]

Boy oh boy David icke is right!✌🏼❤

[@jakes5940]

About what?

[@worm3165]

About what

[@andrejm77]

Yes, beware of reptilians!

[@davekingrey1009]

Search up "why do witches ride broomsticks?" The quick answer is that people used to make a paste or something with ergot, possibly collected from rye bread, and since its toxic in larger doses they would put it on sensetive skin where it could be absorbed through the skin. Apparently some people would put the ergot on a broomstick and rub it on their genitals where it would absorb into their bloodstream causing a hallucinogenic effect. Also notice in many old depictions of witches they are naked straddling a broomstick. I'm not making this up. Google it.

[@mranderson2048]

interesting information

[@bobotee7072]

Everything you have said is the truth

[@goldjozi1276]

Alright. The past is much funkier then we could've imagined.

[@SC-eu6td]

I like your back ground

[@HakaiOver9k]

This video comming out after 8 months with "432k" views, must be a message from the universe.

[@feliciarybicki6481]

Check out mycodext on Instagram for some Healing psychedelics products. He got quality shrooms, lsd, dmt and others. He's discreet and very reliable.

[@blacktoothfox677]

Silver Birch, Joe. NOT pine. Fly Agaric really is a VERY inconsistent thing, in terms of strength. One day a quarter will be too much, another four is too little. Impossible to prepare properly, I've tried SO MANY methods. The trip is strong and dark... I felt I became one with undergrowth and shadows and cold wet stone. Not the usual trip..!

[@rayn.2688]

People are so desperate to debunk scripture. Why? Lol sometimes it comes off as an ego issue not enlightenment. People dont like the idea of something superior they have to answer to eventually

[@daedricdragon5976]

No we are trying to find out the truth

Maybe but mainly it's because it's clearly made up bullshit

[@guaphunter6952]

M C That billions, including our politicians, are buying into

[@guiseppe6215]

U on point Ray N !! Peace my brother

@@guaphunter6952 our politicians are playing us like fiddles as always

[@HouseJawn]

I have ate alot of Aminita Muscaria in the last decade. It takes a specific but very simple preparation method, and it has a high threshold dose. Wish I could get Joe this information but i know he doesn't read comments.

[@adriangheorghe4872]

just put it out there mate . Wee read !

[@propps2253]

You can view the religious scriptures also as a esoteric way, esoteric means the inner world inside yourself. Like Jesus the torture and the cross is about the spiritual process or being conscious of the unconcious and Jesus on the cross you can see as a complete surrender of the ego. This is more the mystic way of viewing the scriptures, it's a experience not a belief. About Christmas there is a lot of similarities with Odin and the norse myth and is probably changed by christianity. There are still important days celebrated in some places in Europe.

[@formalino]

@Azzury Street That's on the reader.

[@dextersgarden404]

Amanita Muscaria potency is intensified when marinated in a lactate(milk or cream, un pasteurized) for 72 hours.

[@richardgarnos6715]

Santa going up and down "the chimney" the spinal column

[@NMNM285-k4c]

Joe needs to have an Orthodox priest come on to the podcast

[@thomasrogers3008]

Doesn't the apostle Paul says to not play around with 'pharmacia' - chemicals that alter psychological state... rendering this whole convo mute right?

[@braden2289]

Yep, there’s a reason why they won’t have an actual Christian historian on here. He would effortlessly dismantle these theories..

[@garyh1431]

Next time I go to Oaxaca I will make sure I get with shaman

[@808mauna]

word

[@ellenrosegaynor8063]

For an accurate assessment of the mushrooms effect, I would think a person would have to drink the urine before the Shaman's consumption of the mushroom and then after the Shaman's consumption to theoretically discern the unique characteristics of the mushroom compared to any effect of the plain urine.

[@dre1201]

😂😂

[@icekalang3598]

hahHa

[@ekothesilent9456]

Shamans drink a loooot of reindeer piss.

[@mugiwara929]

Shamash: akkadian sungod Shemesh: sun in hebrew 2:00

[@Zombie1Boy]

I'd say the idea that the Oracle of Delphi was huffing fumes to see visions has more weight than this.

[@chrisposey5190]

And they would put the fresh mushrooms inside their socks and hang them by the fire to dry them out....christmas is definitely tied to amanita muscaria

[@wendiesel2606]

Exodus is the most devastating book, it mentions how the mushrooms grow, how they died it and that they preserved an omer of it in the arc as a time capsule for their future kin. Its hysterical to watch all the fundamentalist Christians getting triggered over new information.

[@wendiesel2606]

*dried

[@duran3d]

Humans are great at finding relations and patterns among anything. You can name a couple of random items on Earth and we can stablish a relationship between them. But actually most of the time they are not really related and it means nothing.

[@benharrington9523]

Great point

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

So i guess nothing means anything then?

[@essman21]

Would love to see Carl Ruck on the JRE.

[@frederickgramcko5758]

The CIA has him busy with other projects.

[@Necroslaughter718]

just think about the idea that santa claus knows who's been good kid and who's been bad and how psychedelichs shows you what kind of person you are