The Connection Psychedelics Have to Early Christianity, Christmas

[@brysonmyers6835]

We need to get Jesus on the podcast

[@allupinya5938]

The janitor?

[@jimoneprism]

@@allupinya5938 The carpenter

[@allupinya5938]

@@jimoneprism oh Jesus!

[@arnoldhernandez1910]

@@jimoneprism lmaoooooooo

[@arnoldhernandez1910]

The catheter?

[@woozie._.]

Bro gram Hancock came outta no where I’m watching the whole episode now

[@dawb86]

lol bro my sentiments EXACTLY!!! 😂😂💯

[@acaiirose5761]

Lmaaao

[@markymark591]

His been on the show before at lest twice one time with Randal Carlson both very very interesting

[@howiseetheworld3581]

LOOOOOOOOOL I had the exact same reaction!!!

[@huntermediaphotography]

Dolittle Finch @grahamhancock just materialized like Magic

[@casinoboys5867]

The new studio looks like a giant toaster oven.

[@gremlin1689]

Hot take of the century

[@funart6210]

Have you seen this clip of Lex telling Joe that his New Studio sucks?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGOppHufYqhri6c

[@tyleerio]

Yeah. What's happened to the old one 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@bryanluntz1603]

The inside of a hair curler

[@worm3165]

Its Darth Maul's tanning booth

[@nextgenfootball69420]

joe rogan should have winona ryder on the show, her father worked with timothy leary (psychedelic researcher) and she basically grew up around people like that, would be cool to hear her experience as she already mentioned a little about in an interview

[@jesseaparicio2180]

Wow I didn't know that ! She's very entertaining too that would be a fun episode !

[@nextgenfootball69420]

jesse aparicio yeah initially I was afraid that the more I get to know her I would not like her as much, but my love for her just amplified explosively once I found out she was part of us

[@shawnjenkins8842]

@@nextgenfootball69420 interesting! I didn’t know that. I’m also scared to look into Hollywood players but I’ll definitely look into her.

[@brianmuldoon1835]

This man came prepared!! This is one of my favorite podcasts so far

[@redguyphil1]

Amanita Muscaria is actually far more effective when processed, in yogurt with lactobascillus. It converts all of the ibotenic acid to muscarine in the process and is likely the same thing done to produce SOMA. That also being one reason why cows were sacred in many cultures including India.

[@SahilP2648]

Also cow dung has much more chances of sprouting psilocybin mushrooms in the wild. I am not sure if farmers find these whenever it rains in India or not. But it would make sense that cows are sacred because of this reason.

[@fumarate1]

do you use plain yogurt?

[@josephvillines9766]

it may be a reason but no the reason ...these cows or bulls go away deeper than psychedelics waay deeper

[@SahilP2648]

@@josephvillines9766 what do you mean?

[@josephvillines9766]

@@SahilP2648 the main reason cows and bulls are worship in ancient cosmology is not for mushrooms or any other physical reason its was a science and spiritual reason ....had alot to do with the nothing and flat earth cosmology which we should a know the whole world at those times thought the same way.....in fact we didn't drink milk until the outsider came in and saw their works and took the literature of ancient ppls literally amd this is why we have the religioms we see today at least part of the reason anyway ....the bull is Toroaka Taurus using etymology we know they were talking about the toroidal field known today as the eltri magnetic field around the earth ....I'm no the best to explain this but I do know what I am talking about ...look up bro. sanchez tv on here and he goes into full details.....

[@maryjane5754]

JR: I read Allegro Guest: Did you?

[@g-hopark7809]

Why has this episode 1543 been taken down?? Govt isn’t even being lowkey about it anymore🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lightbeforethetunnel]

They just take stuff down that they don't want the public knowing about. Check out Operation Mockingbird to learn how the CIA controls the media

[@fatguybob2778]

Yeah, it’s on Spotify. Doesn’t have comments but still has video

[@rooneye]

That thing about the urine getting you high. Ancient Siberian tribes used to drink reindeer urine after the reindeers had eaten a lot of mushrooms and they'd get high af from it.

[@bschmidt1]

An ancient recipe for mead would not say "Step 2: Rack the mead" it would say something like "Then Odin poured the the gods onto the mountain, creating poetry" etc. Jesus is part of a recipe for winter bread and wine, and is literally the Amanita Muscaria mushroom in the texts; Jesus on the cross is not a guy but literally winter solstice - the only time of year you can find this mushroom in Greece, where these instructions were first recorded. There are companion "myths" attributed to Dionysus - Dion "Ysus" / "Jesus" is the process of turning water into wine. "Dionysus Eleutherius" (liberation) is specifically wine from berries, the "anointed" AKA "Christ" specifies the use of A. Muscaria mushroom. Dionysus and Jesus are later merged into the same figure, as they both refer to winemaking - the crown of thorns is even a grape vine, the "blood" at the end fills a cup with magically imbued liquid, in a wine glass specifically, even today churches still do communion using wine or grape juice. The cross is the crux constellation, the 3 days is the 3 days the sun appears in front of the cross at winter solstice (Dec. 21st), before rising above the cross on Dec. 25th signaling the return of spring. Easter eggs are the beginning stages of A. Muscaria mushroom growing in green grass, the majority of Christian gothic and early renaissance art painted over images of pomegranates and A. Muscaria mushroom with saints, halos, etc.

[@CountAbsurd]

Kinda defeats the whole christmas one when santa was never red until the 1800s.

[@edehe2370]

J I thought the whole reason christmas is associated with the color red nowadays is because of Coca Cola’s marketing starting in the early 20th century.

[@meandmynine_tm9684]

The modern version of Santa is red means it can not have been based on ancient traditions? It "defeats" nothing. The guy who designed the original Santa's (long before coca Cola's interference), took inspiration from earlier traditions, which those traditions were more than likely taken from earlier traditions. You are looking for there being a fat red dude from the start, when this dude could have been a female, dressed slightly different etc. What we do know is that these traditions are celebrated at the same time of year with similar colours. Long before 1800's Santa. Even st nick wore a tan and white trim robe. Next you'll be telling me the Scandinavians don't put mushroom designs on their Yule logs at Christmas. It's totally possible that mushroom is an Aminita muscaria, which is red. The tales of Rudolph's nose being red (from the mushroom's) comes long before 1800's Santa. But the colour red is associated with Christmas long before the 1800's. It's strange you think it's negates anything, it just reinforces it that they keep using the colour linked to mushroom's festivals for that time of year.

[@CastroBlues]

The Psychedelic Gospels (by Jerry Brown and Julie Brown) was a VERY interesting read that follows Alegro's work, and further investigation of early christian sites. Seeing mushrooms in numerous ancient christian artistic works def support that mushrooms played an important part in early Christianity. Hard to prove as a lot of ancient texts that may have had something on this were largely destroyed. The catholic church, and Christianity as a whole, would have a LOT to lose if a radical idea such as this were to be proven. Society would have a hard time accepting this, but would benefit sooooooo much if they did. The world might have been a better place. Sacred mushrooms however do not align with the control of the masses, which is exactly what early Catholicism aimed for.

[@CastroBlues]

@@Rod3ntRat that’s your opinion

[@jordansthing]

i personally would have to disagree with society becoming a better place, as religion helps people through a lot of tough times and acts as a coping mechanism and a source of hope, you know? i feel like people would become much more depressed, suicide rates would increase, crime rates would increase, etc.

[@GeovanniCastro666]

Luis just never leave God and yeah let's continue

[@aaronwagner9310]

@@Rod3ntRat actually im pretty sure that Christo *christians* falls under the category of "mushroom" cults/religious views.

[@queenieqt2033]

It wouldnt disaprove God at all. Because God put these compounds on the earth for us to find and experiment with. He made those mushrooms psychedelic. Who's to say that perhaps they are an essential tool to communicating with the Devine and perhaps even Him.

[@SHARATK-z1l]

The moment graham started speaking from the monitor freaked me out :D

[@weiyuan20]

I'm beginning to think that Professor Sprout from Harry Potter was just in the greenhouses tripping balls between classes...

[@nickdefiler796]

In Mtskheta, Georgia in Church called Svetitskhoveli you will find some of the weirdest frescoes ever and in many other Georgian old churches too

[@thomasrogers3008]

Doesn't the apostle Paul says to not play around with 'pharmacia' - chemicals that alter psychological state... rendering this whole convo mute right?

[@braden2289]

Yep, there’s a reason why they won’t have an actual Christian historian on here. He would effortlessly dismantle these theories..

[@jeffreywood7311]

So the fungi’s most potent when passed through a system, does it not potentially suffice to say that “Drinking the blood of Christ” would be a fairly easy interpretation of that exact thing. It may be oversimplification of the facts at hand but it’s an interesting connection.

[@billybillson2134]

Allegro was a maverick, he was ahead of his time..✨

[@corinnehill8565]

Always remember... No Fear... Merry Christmas... I have my grandma's book... The Dead Sea Scrolls by Millar Burrows 1956 a very good year... The year that I was born... Merry Christmas.... luvs aunti

[@freddyperla7944]

A good documentary on what they're talking about is: THE PHARMACRATIC INQUISITION

[@Wonderlust69420]

Joe “I don’t really know anyone that’s blown their brains out” Rogan

[@wendiesel2606]

Why do you hate metaphors?

[@michaelnguyen2210]

The old joe with KZbin is better then Spotify new joe ...

[@spenceroc]

18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart." -1 Corinthians 1 18-19(ESV)

[@digelopapi9389]

Just because you don’t utilize something the same doesn’t mean you can’t get the same effect

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I recommend you hit up this legit plug they're very reliable ship to any location they've got Adderall shrooms ketamine dmt,lsd,spores,microdose and other psychedelic stuffs

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[@angelobecerra9777]

They're on Instagram .....

[@yohannes.painsaba2867]

I wanna be Joe Rogan when i grow up. He is like a psychedelic mad scientist who tries all manner of the hallucinatory drugs before suggesting them. Joe, when did you get in pharmacology, can you give me an internship? I will work for free.

[@mikewelde6601]

Bruh u age backwards or something

[@jazerasor1455]

Trying every drugs dangerous, I'd focus on the profound ones over the fun ones. More sustainable

[@Spreadtheloveandlifeofjesus]

Many holidays have deep spiritual meanings, and countries especially America have turned modern holidays very un-spiritual to keep us away from pyschadelics and a higher state of consciousness, and even farther from religion and God

[@elrafiki5236]

KZbin is going at it with these

[@nosformahtu]

i’m so high i noticed graham hancock in the background @ 3:05 and thought i was tripping balls 😂

[@Burgerkennedy]

Santa wasn’t depicted as red until Coca-Cola advertisements

[@captindo]

Getting nostalgic for Christmas now. Been a long year so far.

[@santaclaus3077]

Im getting excited too

[@caitlinveszelovszky]

Sumerian is easily translated with Hungarian I went down a huge rabbit hole and the word truly is a living language I will never be the same. I swear in transkaring the connection these synapses starting clicking and my brain started making chemicals naturally it was like Dmt was flooding my pineal gland or I was naturally high and trippin without drugs .. it is addicting the insatiable thirst for more “ knowing “ and it’s like that song “we are programmed to recieve, you can check out.. but you never never leave”..

[@CamilleSwisher]

mycotripper1

[@CamilleSwisher]

On instagram ……..?¿

[@CamilleSwisher]

They have the best psychedelic edibles and ships discreetly to any location.

[@nicolasleconte3181]

So that's why santa is dressed in red and white !

[@HakaiOver9k]

This video comming out after 8 months with "432k" views, must be a message from the universe.

[@feliciarybicki6481]

Check out mycodext on Instagram for some Healing psychedelics products. He got quality shrooms, lsd, dmt and others. He's discreet and very reliable.

[@porticoman]

I think my mind has just been blown.

[@wonderingwizard2399]

They don’t really grow under pine trees. They love oak trees tho.

[@trenpire]

Bring back the old joe rogan, old studio, saying whatever he wants whenever we wants

[@reiayanamnam5444]

Jesus, Santa Claus, Dune 2 … all mushrooms.

[@James-ke5sx]

The Bible was written for the people of the Middle East not for the entire human race. Just because Christianity was spread throughout the world doesn't mean it was meant for the entire human race. It would be the same as taking an ancient Mayan religion and spreading to Northern Siberia.

[@defcuts]

Saagar sent me here.

[@evanburdick8503]

I stayed away from drugs due to a friend who had a trip on magic mushrooms then had sex with his dog while hallucinating

[@tonyalanmarchant7330]

Ive seen a comment saying gorillas mainly eat bread but theyve not learnt any baking skills whatsoever. Brilliant

[@etownKeystoned]

If you are so secure in your beliefs, it shouldn't bother you that religion Is being discussed in a unconventional manner. And let's face it, nothing they've said is even close to as crazy as the "real" story. It's always worth it to think about old ideas with new knowledge & in new ways

[@phylleedrianalagos1728]

bruh i used to draw elves on mushrooms for the heck of it. I dont know anything about its metaphors , this is a mind blowing moment for me lmao

[@PREISINGPRODUCTIONSsince1912]

“Ultimately, saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different from saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.” ― Edward Snowden

[@PREISINGPRODUCTIONSsince1912]

Even when our phones are 100% turned off, they can still listen to us and track us 24/7! Plus, the harmful EMF to our bodies

[@PREISINGPRODUCTIONSsince1912]

Look it up on KZbin: ULTIMATE DEVICE SHIELDING - FARADAY BAG FOR PHONE - Anti-Hacking / Anti-Tracking

[@PREISINGPRODUCTIONSsince1912]

Or kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4erl2eLnK1snZI

[@bobkennedy1802]

@@PREISINGPRODUCTIONSsince1912 great video man!

[@bobkennedy1802]

@Embrace Your Dreams we all do

[@xjuice_leex]

That's it. We're taking psychedelics this year for Christmas, boys.

[@effortlessawareness8778]

Amen brotha

[@mikeayia8819]

Your good

[@snigdhajyotidas3057]

God Bless

[@SchwemPunkAssKid]

Err day boi

[@victoriaholden6296]

And girls 😘

[@budfox2337]

Spotify is a step down for us, no comments is terrible. I like the comments almost as much as the interviews. Spotify will edit out what they view as inappropriate, censorship !

[@donn1473]

Yeah the comment section will be very missed.. so much humour and discussions just gone.. sad. I wonder if he has any rights to upload highlight clips atleast, that would be good

[@GTV247]

I also agree. Will miss the comments

[@connerb1292]

A lot of this will have to move to the jre subreddit

[@xxD3Vxx]

Just watch his podcasts on KZbin... why even use Spotify.

[@donn1473]

@@xxD3Vxx He wont legally be allowed to upload episeodes on youtube after new years. You wont be able to watch it on youtube since He signed a contract that says his show will exclusively be hosted on spotify

[@rlenclub]

the first question Joe Rogan would ask Jesus if he came back would be "HAVE YOU EVER DONE DMT"

[@MrJwyne]

Then Jesus sayeth, “I am DMT”

[@pattp.7358]

Hebrews 6:19 "I speak to you my faithful followers, I am tripping balls on this magical creation my Father has created."

[@Jerry-eb8vf]

Nah it’d be “Did u see me while I was on DMT?”

[@kevinhickers6645]

Yeah , me and Moses .

[@ThetennisDr]

how you not heard about the rapture in a twinkle of an eye jesus will pull us out of the world and meet us catching us in the air so we will be forever with the lord. similar to DMT but w JESUS> for ever for real. .ike dying and becoming spirits >HOLY spirits.

[@VlogCreations]

“One Corinthians “

[@ELMatadiablos]

Watch him quote corinthians “the sequel”

[@JesusChristismyLord316]

Vlog Creations Holy shit, Ross was here? 😱😱💪

[@Smokeyxz]

Hey Ross 👋

[@TheGreatThree8]

Hey dad

[@ggrandom6881]

Hey what are you doing here? Go make funny video, funny man 😡 😡 😡 😡

[@jopo7996]

With all the evidence there isn't mushroom for argument. The morel of the the story is Jesus was a fun guy.

[@jonski_i]

Wise guy

[@icorrectly]

I wager your puns are lost on many. Props

[@kevinwright3615]

Let's drop a tab and visit heaven!

[@dawb86]

@Jo Po Shrooms, water into wine AND he took the fall for the rest of the crew? Jesus is the big homie to say the least... 😂💯

[@1jediwitch]

~Very droll~ 🍄🎅🎄🎁

[@ericnordean88]

On my 4th and final trip on Happy caps I changed my life for the better and never turned back... I experienced myself minus the world’s expectations and quit cigarettes as a pack a day smoker like flipping off a light switch. It’s been more than 10 years and I still haven’t touched shrooms or cigs. I’m not claiming that going on a trip will change your life for the better every time or even that everyone should try them. Just that for me the effect was very positive. I saw the future as I could predict it and changed it permanently for the one person I could, myself.

[@conorwatters3474]

that's the nice thing about happy caps - you don't have to drink a shaman's urine

[@raytracer2651]

Bill burr reckoned they sorted him out too.

[@timharper4246]

They quite literally saved my life from suicidal depression and a crushing opiate, alcohol and cigarette addiction. Have been sober from all of that for almost 15 years. I'm not opposed to mushrooms but I haven't done them in 6 or more years, now. Maybe it's time for another experience!

[@ericnordean88]

@@timharper4246 happy to hear stories like this bro! Keep keeping on and stay strong man

[@ffhhhbbfxfggggfdddffffffff]

@@timharper4246 man reading stuff like this hypes me up for the future and makes me happy ive made all the changes i have made and thankful others do everyday as well. health is everything bro its a blessing yo kick half the shitp

[@Sayless579]

This guy looks like Spongebob's cousin Stanley

[@BilbosaurGaming]

I’m dead 😂

[@JohnSmith-ul3tz]

Don’t disrespect Stanley like that.

[@arielshummer3822]

Have you seen this clip of Lex telling Joe that his New Studio sucks?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGOppHufYqhri6c 🔥 😂

[@MrJwyne]

Had to google it ....glad I did 😄

[@fyb3rotik]

Fucking gold

[@AM23.]

That was one of the best dialogues on Rogan's show in a while

[@samuelneitor1]

Agree

[@austin68smith1]

Jocky Rohnson take a trip buddy. You might get your answer to your belief in an afterlife.

[@cosmiccomedy7394]

@Jocky Rohnson how about dying and going into the infinite everything.

[@austin68smith1]

Jocky Rohnson they are all around my guy. If you don’t know anyone you gotta start low and keep working your way up to the distributors Edit: don’t go to you neighborhood crackhead.

[@adamJKpunk]

Because he finally got someone besides hillbillies spitting dip and talking about how cool the marines are.

[@mattmcd1627]

So you rip a verse from 1 Corinthians wayyy out of it's context and connect it to a psychedelic mushroom but ignore everything about being sober minded? Yals did too much mushroom and not enough research...

[@maxsiehier]

That's what they like to do. Cherry-picking. Or in their case, mushroom-picking.

[@lectorintellegat]

Just what I thought - I’m an academic theologian and of church history. This is absolute nonsense.

[@andreiluca3590]

Brian Muraresku never did any psychedelic, you do your research 😁

[@isaacj6551]

Well we don't want them to analyze the whole bible, it'd reveal all the plot holes and hypocrisy

[@euanharrison7125]

Confirmation bias

[@_I.M.]

Guessing Spotify didn’t like Paul Stamets either..

[@_I.M.]

Dan oz ok

[@chrisl.p4808]

@Dan oz stfu lol

[@ghostinameatsuit4654]

I actually JUST found the episode. It's still there!

[@heelmoxley365]

Every day I think existence scares me more.

[@wcw7813]

Have you seen the new Post Malone interview with Elon Musk?! 🔥kzbin.info/www/bejne/maGsanirYpmge6M 😂 😆

[@docking9532]

It would be strange if something as profound and grand as existence didnt scare you

[@Iwasthewalrus]

GOOD

[@mrrec0very956]

What always was always has been, regardless of whether we perceive it or not

[@ignas49]

@@wcw7813 holy fucking shit thats the most unconvincing bait ever

[@Jerryberger9235]

Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here

[@georgewilliams1062]

Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.

[@zoeywinston6826]

LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."

[@sarahh321]

[_James_tray] Got psychs

[@Jerryberger9235]

@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?

[@sarahh321]

@@Jerryberger9235 Yes

[@soulsuccess]

I highly recommend looking up podcasts/interviews with Darren LeBaron. He's a researcher who goes deeper into the past than Brian did (although he did amazing work with his research) as he delved into ancient Egypt (who ancient Greece acquired much of their knowledge from) and central and southern Africa. For anyone who's looking to dive deeper.

[@BurgerurgerFPV]

Can you hire me to build a new background in ur studio for every episode?

[@GrunchieMan]

This channel has fallen off. What happened to having many clips from every guest? Now its one if were lucky.

[@grudge7719]

nailed it

[@jwilly6874]

Watch the podcast dummy he said he wasn’t going to post as much on this anymore

[@juanmexes1541]

It’s cause of the partnership with Spotify

[@josephsantillan3817]

@@jwilly6874 maybe he doesn't have time for a 3 hour podcast and just wants 2 or 3 highlights of it? I'm glad Joe made so much, good for him, but fuck spotify.

[@calvin4912]

the contract allows him to post just 15 minutes of clips per episode, im pretty sure

[@rayn.2688]

People are so desperate to debunk scripture. Why? Lol sometimes it comes off as an ego issue not enlightenment. People dont like the idea of something superior they have to answer to eventually

[@daedricdragon5976]

No we are trying to find out the truth

[@guaphunter6952]

M C That billions, including our politicians, are buying into

[@guiseppe6215]

U on point Ray N !! Peace my brother

[@WvlfCvlt]

Its not about superiority!... There's no proof a god or a higher power exists!

[@stephenblackwell5533]

@M C yea clearly I mean you still talking about a supposed man who didn't exist and didn't rise from the dead and split history in to and is the reason we call this year 2020.🤔🤔. Clearly made up right?

[@semaj4324]

Jesus is Lord.

[@spookidrew4284]

Amen

[@nima5261]

YES

[@nima5261]

Amen

[@billbowser13]

No. Allahuakbar!

[@billbowser13]

@SMITH was just kidding

[@KING_OF_FARTS]

🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄SHROOMIN!🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄

[@NickSandt]

The relationship between religion and magic is something that most people probably don’t think about. The relationship between magic and shamanism however is probably commonly considered and more easily understood. I’m sure most people have a general idea of the Bible’s stance on sorcery (seeing how popular Harry Potter has been over the past decade or two and the backlash it’s received from the church or maybe they’ve learned about the Salem witch trials) but fail to understand what sorcery actually is-the Greek word for sorcery is “pharmakeia” -the word where we get “pharmacy” and “pharmaceuticals” from. Think about that for a minute. The New Testament was written in Greek . . . if you wanna know the truth you gotta be prepared to dig and do your research

[@Aithis.]

Christianity is very steeped in “magic” and heavily influenced (stolen) from paganism. Rituals such as drinking the blood of Jesus etc

[@NickSandt]

WhiteNoise Right, I just want to clarify that Catholicism is the brand of Christianity that has borrowed from paganism. I’m a Protestant Christian and the popular view of religion vs magic within the church is as 🔥 and 💦 but I see them being more like Coke and Pepsi

[@DnVFMVs]

So drugs and pills are the closest thing we will come to " Magic? " explian yourself sorcerer

[@1guitar12]

I did...and the original New Testament was originally composed in Aramaic (and some parts Hebrew too) and then translated into Greek. So the shroom connection doesn’t pass the litmus, but still a killer high.

[@domiii489]

I think only a few people will ever truly understand the Bible. Like u said magic is a very big topic yet its very misunderstood. Jesus was an occultist and an alchemist. I learned a lot about the magis (=magic) wich we all know visited Jesus as a baby. I don't think that I will every truly understand the Bible but I got for sure a different view about it

[@santaclaus3077]

I hope you all keep being respectful and continue to do good deeds. Ill make sure to bring you something extra special this year! Your friend, Santa Claus 🎅

[@andrejm77]

Bring me I30N Santa!

[@kevinhickers6645]

Huayhuaska or DMT .... HoHoHo n away !

[@TheDrifter250]

@@kevinhickers6645 I do believe you mean Ayahuasca

[@alediazofficial2562]

As for the relation to Shamanic traditions, at least in Finland, their Santa Claus is supposed to originate from the North of Finland, which is also where a lot of the native Sámi people live and they do have traditions from shamanism and many are known to be Reindeer shepards. Amanita also grows in Finland.

[@obedientconsumer5056]

Think of Mario Bros and the Aminita mushroom that makes you BIG.. They knew something.

[@SeanOCallaghan0106]

0:21 Joe "i did my homework" Rogan

[@penitent1889]

I’m no linguist, so I can’t dispute the etymological connection claimed. But the thing is we have plenty of writings of guys who were personally taught by and made bishops by the apostles (Ignatius of Antioch, Pope Clement of Rome), and they never allude to anything like psychedelics. I think it’s easier to believe the apostles were willing to be martyred because they saw Christ risen from the dead rather than for a psychedelic experience.

[@patrickallen4445]

Early Christianity was a political organization founded by Greco Romans 100 years later. Why do you think does it says render to Caesar what is Caeser’s?

[@bryand7005]

Christ rising from the dead was written into the King James version for spin. It wasn't in the original text. The story ended in the cave

[@penitent1889]

Patrick Allen I’m not getting into an argument in KZbin comments, but I’ll share why that seems improbable to me. Christianity was very inconvenient to the Roman authorities hence why they persecuted Christians so hard. We can see this in St. Justin Martyr’s pleas to the Roman authorities in his “First Apology” (~150 AD) as he explains what Christianity is and why it shouldn’t be persecuted. It seems counterproductive that the Romans would create Christianity just to try to wipe it out. Also, we know from other surviving writings of the early Church clergy that a form of an institutional Church already existed in the first century. One piece of evidence is St. Ignatius of Antioch (taught by St. John the beloved disciple) reminding the faithful to “See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbyters as ye would the apostles” in ~110 AD (Epistle to the Smyrnaeans). Yes, it is at the dawn of the 2nd century, but it reads like a reminder of a long-lived understanding.

[@penitent1889]

Bryan D King The KJV is goofy, but that claim is easily disproven. Just Google “Early Church Fathers” and “resurrection,” and you’ll find dozens of places where 1st-5th century Saints write about the resurrection. The KJV wasn’t published until 1611 AD. One example of the results you can find is Pope St. Clement of Rome in his Letter to the Corinthians in 80 AD: “[T]he Master is continually proving to us that there will be a future resurrection, of which he has made the Lord Jesus Christ the firstling, by raising him from the dead.”

[@penitent1889]

Patrick Allen I thought you said the Romans made Him up? And if they were liars, they probably would have lied to avoid being martyred. Anyways, as the great convert from Anglicanism, St. John Henry Newman, put it, “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.”

[@freddyperla7944]

It's pronounced "ASTER" + "RISK" not "ASTER" + "RICKS"

[@zachfort2060]

"Professing to be wise, they became fools"

[@krisrose1518]

Tell myself this every once in a while

[@zachfort2060]

@@krisrose1518 I don't know what kind of "bible scholar" doesn't realize the bible specifically says not to partake in pharmacia (drugs) and root cutting also psychedelics were listed under the same category as witchcraft. No surprise they always talk about seeing "entities" when they take them. Believers all know what they really are

[@unseen575]

Very true. These being are real and the thing is the Lord shows them to people, but only to those whom he wants to.

[@GandRpictures]

For some reason I also felt that quote applies perfectly for the 20th century and the 21st century 🤔.

[@zachfort2060]

@U WISH everyone drank wine back then the Bible says not to be drunk. Theres nothing wrong with a glass of wine. And its grape juice in churches

[@ovariosinflamados26]

Joe Rogan always gets non Christians to talk about Christianity but he never gets Christian theologians on his podcast. He should get some of them on there to balance things out.

[@troymason4799]

Your 1,000 percent right

[@Beau76712]

I second the motion

[@JuBerryLive]

Why though? Christian scholars are obviously biased by their faith. A scientific perspective on christianity is what we need in 2020, not more obscurantism. A Christian scholar can explain the meanings, the morals, the values, the symbolism way better than non-christians theologians, but they cannot have an objective perspective on their faith. It's in the name... faith.

[@ovariosinflamados26]

@@JuBerryLiveBut aren't these guys being a bit biased too? Of course that a theologian or maybe even a scholar is gonna have a biased stance toward the faith but that's a viewpoint that's never really been expressed or examined fully by a guest on this show. It's cool to hear all sides not just, " they were all high back then, mannnnnn". Lol. That is all.

[@turftrash3971]

@@JuBerryLive i agree with you 100%

[@davekingrey1009]

Search up "why do witches ride broomsticks?" The quick answer is that people used to make a paste or something with ergot, possibly collected from rye bread, and since its toxic in larger doses they would put it on sensetive skin where it could be absorbed through the skin. Apparently some people would put the ergot on a broomstick and rub it on their genitals where it would absorb into their bloodstream causing a hallucinogenic effect. Also notice in many old depictions of witches they are naked straddling a broomstick. I'm not making this up. Google it.

[@mranderson2048]

interesting information

[@bobotee7072]

Everything you have said is the truth

[@goldjozi1276]

Alright. The past is much funkier then we could've imagined.

[@archiebah6553]

I've had potent doses of a wide range of psychedelics and I can say personally that the most powerful experience I've ever had was from aminita muscaria

[@thebeanienation548]

Which psychedelics have you tried?

[@fumarate1]

I take Aminita and Psilocybins there both healing my brain after frying it to meth for many years what a journey.

[@marley1995]

It’s a deliriant not a psych.

[@MazelTovCocktail49]

Where do you get it? I've tried all hallucinagenic drugs under the sun, but I have never heard of this

[@marley1995]

@@MazelTovCocktail49 someone has to grow it or find it. Honestly it’s not what you’re thinking. It’s a straight poison makes you feel drunk and out of it.

[@krissothegreat.3119]

How about Super Mario? .. droppin through portals .. powerring up off mushrooms. Them flashing lights being a trip in motion .. or nah? 🤣

[@bebopblues]

Real Christian meaning, "the church" biblical scripture show's no connection with mind altering substance in fact, its against it like drunkenness.. those are the ways of paganism. Not Christianity!

[@granta3044]

I think they're saying that this is the new christianity and christianity was a lot different before things like a Pope or a bible emerged

[@LowCostVideo]

Much of Christianity is pagan in origin. Many of the Christian customs were pagan customs long before they became Christian customs. Christmas and Easter were pagan holidays long before they were appropriated by Christianity.

[@granta3044]

@@LowCostVideo haha, yes all of christianity has pagan origins. Its funny how the religious like to forget these things

[@bebopblues]

Most of the paganism we see today is through the catholic church and many other religion. which isnt Christianity.. fact check the Bible, and don't be deceived by doctrine of demons.

[@granta3044]

@@bebopblues demons? I thought you wanted to forget the pagan religions? Demons are a carryover from pagan religions

[@dankryzenjacob4241]

been waiting for graham hancock to be back on, THANK YOU!

[@samuelgaldieri8212]

What I always found interesting and a little funny is that all the religious sightings/ visions/ communications with god ect. that are in the Bible that people just completely ignore the fact that all those could have just been someone tripping ....like they find it more likely that people actually talked to god than just accidentally ate the wrong mushroom or used the wrong leaves to make tea...

[@SahilP2648]

Didn't you know that people were dumb af back then? And if you are saying "Oh but look at the pyramids" pyramids weren't built by humans. I would say we regressed going from Greek culture to the birth of Christianity. We had the philosophers of the time like Socrates and Plato among others who basically defined the ideal way of living and also the art of self introspection. This art of self introspection actually defies any other religion because it destroys any kind of belief. One of the statements from Socrates is- The only thing I know, is that I know nothing. Which could be comprehended in an infinite number of ways. But probably the one aspect of it which is in plain sight is that the world as we see and perceive it might not be the objective truth. Basically the simulation hypothesis before the concept of computers was even pondered. And then came Christianity with some bullcrap rules to follow and sin and whatnot.

[@GeovanniCastro666]

Mm Do you believe in God?

[@GeovanniCastro666]

@@SahilP2648 Jesus loves you bro

[@GeovanniCastro666]

@@SahilP2648 philosophers why would you go with their thoughts?

[@GeovanniCastro666]

@@SahilP2648 seems like your scared God might be real and your soul doomed.

[@timothywhitaker5308]

You guys prove 1 Corinthians 22 ironically, the gospel is foolishness to Greeks, or to those who trust in themselves.

[@CaptainYesz]

It can't mean what it says it means! It really means DRUGS AND DMT

[@cothruth19info29]

Trust in yourself just irritates me.

[@ven.austinelayno]

Amanita Muscaria is known to be found in the Northern Hemisphere (Asia, Europe, North America) However Israel, being geographically located in the Middle East, has a climate that may not be the most conducive for the growth of Amanita Muscaria. These mushrooms are often associated with boreal and temperate forests, especially those with coniferous trees.

[@yangskeletor9171]

Agree. What guys like Allegro couldn't know is that other psychedelic mushrooms are more likely the solution to the question, related to certain areas/parts of the world: 1. Liberty cap (Psilocybe semilanceata) 2. Cuban bald head(?) (Psilocybe cubensis (previously known as Stropharia cubensis)) 1. Psilocybe semilanceata is found in: Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, the Channel Islands, Czech republic, Denmark, Estonia, the Faroe Islands, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, the United Kingdom and Ukraine. It is generally agreed that the species is native to Europe (see late Neolithic mushroom-like rock engravings/petroglyphes in Valcamonica, northern Italy/South-Tirol; likely 33.000ya or less(?)) (see Bernward Doors: the two leaves of a pair of Ottonian or Romanesque bronze doors, made c. 1015 for Hildesheim Cathedral in Germany) There are astonishing and obvious depictions of mushrooms in the Ravennatic churches of late antiquity; Early Christian churches in Rome and Ravenna - 4th century (just to name the very beginning/appearance (of mushrooms depicted in christian art) in Europe): No Amanita! Also at St. Mark's Basilica, Venice, Italy .. aso. 2. This groundbreaking discovery is also very important: The answer, to which plant Soma (Haoma) (Eleusinian mysteries) was made with, was found in a tomb of a noble woman buried in an elite burial site of the Xiongnu, the famous nomads of Central Asia. There, archaeologists and participants in the Russian-Mongolian expedition led by Natalia Polosmak found the outlines of textile relics on the underside of the burial chamber. The surprisingly good condition is almost a miracle. The biggest surprise, however, was the unique wool embroidery. Its pattern depicts an ancient Zoroastrian ceremony whose main character was a mushroom. The “divine mushroom” embroidered on the carpet resembles the well-known psychoactive species "Psilocybe cubensis". The weight of evidence suggests that Soma, the ancient ritual drink, was made from the mushrooms of the Strophariaceae family. The latest and last known depiction of mushrooms in Christian art can be found on the cast bronze door wing on the west portal of Bremen Cathedral "St. Petri Dom" (1895-1898) (apprentice mason/master builder in the "Cologne Dombauhütte": Peter Dominicus Fuchs). They show the mushroom "Psilocybe cubensis" several times. The species originally comes from tropical Africa. As a cultural successor to livestock breeding (beginning in the Neolithic: the period of domestication of animals, at least 10.000-15.000ya), the species has spread everywhere in the tropics where livestock farming was/is practiced and also further as a cultural asset for initiation rites around Eurasia. (see as mentioned above "Noyon Ula burial site" / Zoroastrian) (see Psi. cubensis connected to "Eleusinian mysteries" / Greek) (see Basilica of Sant' Apollinare in Classe, Ravenna, northern Italy) (see late Neolithic mushroom-like rock engravings/petroglyphes in Valcamonica, northern Italy/South-Tirol) (see depictions of St. Petri Cathedral in Bremen, Germany) But "Amanita muscaria" can be found as well: (see "hitda codex" from Meschede, around 1020, Darmstadt, Germany) (see ceiling painting of the Church of St. Michael in Hildesheim, Germany) aso, Bless you mate 🙏

[@thomasdriscoll8270]

Is he talking about the Bible? Because 1 Corinthians doesn’t go up to 22 chapters, so you’re debunked

[@skins4thewin]

Awe man... I hate that you're gonna be leaving KZbin! Guess I can't blame ya tho, with how badly KZbin keeps screwing it's content providers over. I wish more ppl would leave and really make them feel the pressure to change. Doubt that'll ever happen tho...

[@PearlDrumsHead]

Because KZbin is censoring his platform. That’s why he’s going to Spotify he’s tired of the BS Alex Jones is supposed to be one of the first guests back when it’s fully on Spotify. Not to mention the “Spotify strike” is complete bs. It’s all media bullshit

[@skins4thewin]

@@PearlDrumsHead Wow, seriously? KZbin is ballsy as all hell. Seriously, when is someone going to actually grow enough balls to sue KZbin for all the laws they are breaking these days?

[@ComradeOgilvy369]

Apparently Spotify is just as SJW infested. Buckle up if Joe wins, folks. Communism's a-comin'

[@DnVFMVs]

Meanwhile Logan Paul channel ...

[@jacintofernandes2907]

@@ComradeOgilvy369 can't wait for communism!

[@philipebanks2125]

Ok so i didn’t know graham was on this episode or anything and then he pops out right at the perfect time when it was starting to get good I was like hell yea this is great!

[@Necroslaughter718]

just think about the idea that santa claus knows who's been good kid and who's been bad and how psychedelichs shows you what kind of person you are

[@alediazofficial2562]

I was under the impression that the red and white Santa Claus was a marketing push by Coca Cola way back when they began their early christmas campaigns because of the Coca Cola color scheme. A genius way to make people associate that product with the holiday season. Ever since I moved to Europe, I have encountered many iterrations of Santa Claus, most commonly known as either 'Father Christmas', 'Grandpa or Old Man Winter', 'Papa Noah (papá Noe)', 'Saint Nicolas' or something random like "The christmas goat (joulupukki)" as the Finns call it lol etc. Most of these are depicted with blue, green or white robes or goat skins like the aforementioned Finnish joulupukki. North America and thus some latinamerican countries have the red and white version and I think that at least to a great extend, it was influence by Coca Cola. They perhaps did not come up with this version but definitely helped popularize it. Before Coca Cola, can you find as many examples or referrences to a white and red Santa Claus as being the more universally recognized?

[@newusernamehere4772]

I think the red and white actually comes from the Amanita Muscaria mushroom which reindeer would eat and then piss out the active chemical which has been used as a traditional hallucinogen.

[@jamesrojas2770]

yes lol those christmas cards they were talking about was before coca cola

[@joashm4222]

What about KFC bruhh

[@gabrielp.4797]

Damn Joe just figured out the theory of everything

[@redlymedia1583]

It's been four months since my first shroom experience... after watching this video I hear their call (imagine Boromir blowing his horn to give the hobbits time to escape in Fellowship of the Ring)

[@anastasiamurawski6179]

I've heard that the apple in the garden of Eden might actually have been a red mushroom.

[@OklahomaHistoryLegends]

The correlation between Nimrod and Santa Claus is interesting. The unholy trinity of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz is the same as Osiris, Isis and Horus. The Tower of Babel is widely regarded to be the Ziggurat of Eridu. Truth is stranger than fiction. Ask Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley.

[@OklahomaHistoryLegends]

@R3d D0t As a geologist, someone is going to have a hard time convincing me the global flood didn't occur. How did clams get to the top of Everest? They aren't trekking through the Himalayas. Why are whales found in the desert in Chile? Hmmm.... That flood was at 3,290 B.C. but the Sumerian and Hebrew texts are saying the same thing. The PRE-Flood world and the 200 fallen angels that descended upon Mount Hermon in the days of Jared are the gods and titans in ancient mythology. "Mount Olympus" come to mind. Genesis 6:4 goes way out of its way to tell you exactly what happened.

[@Vegitobluuuuu]

As a Aramaic speaker I’m glad it’s getting the respect it deserves..

[@matthijsvanemous7046]

peshitta for the win

[@dartheater7348]

אנא

[@cheg6057]

fascinating language teach it to your children greetings from a kurd we are like neighbors much love

[@Vegitobluuuuu]

@@cheg6057 of course much love to you too brakim

[@Pheer777]

As an (more of less) atheist it's sad that people don't know about the early mystical and esoteric traditions associated with Christianity and its gnostic sects, because it's actually way more captivating than the mainstream surface-level teachings people get today.

[@jacintofernandes2907]

Is there anything or anywhere I can learn more about it?

[@Pheer777]

@@jacintofernandes2907 Look up Nag Hammadi library and Gnosticism. The Nag Hammadi Library was an assortment of texts found I think in the 30s that contained a bunch of previously unknown Christian books such as the Book of Judas, which completely changes the tone and narrative of what people associate with traditional Christian teachings.

[@theabsorbingman2492]

All new age bullshit

[@MartinRodriguez-cu6vl]

This stuff is fascinating, thanks for sharing where to find more info

[@matheusmotta1132]

Those traditions offer nothing but occult, esoteric, kept knowledge initiation type of thing. Doesn't help nor transform anyone. Only the Gospel saves and transforms the life of a person, and it's been doing this for 2000 years.

[@eklypised]

The apostles would have disappeared and went back to their lives after Christ was crucified, thinking the same thing could happen to them, but they didn't. They went out and started to preach the Gospel in Jerusalem and surrounding areas that Yeshua, the man who just got crucified, had rose from the dead within a month. They did it in the face of persecution and death. What did they have to gain if they knew for a fact what they were preaching was a lie and made up? They all didn’t hallucinate them seeming Jesus because they saw him at different times. But did they gain riches, wealth, power, something worldly? No. The Israelites built the temple for YHWH to dwell in. Jesus said "I am the temple"...he was saying he was God incarnate. He came to save the Jews and gentiles. Christianity isn't a new religion it is the fulfillment of Judaism prophecy and the Old Testament. The only argument the early enemies of Jesus had after his death was that the disciples stole the body. Again they wouldn't have preached a knowing lie in the face of death leaving their whole life behind and not gaining anything worldly. If it was all a scam then you would figure the people doing the scam would gain something out of it. They preached what they knew to be true. Jesus (Emmanuel) came to save us all. I pray you receive Gods salvation. I pray you look at the evidence for Jesus with a open mind and spirit

[@OakyAfterBrth]

God bless brother

[@ioannisfugazi6952]

Oh yeah- my guy Graham Hancock! Been a while since I listened to a full JRE episode but will be downloading this one tout suite.

[@lpaveivyourainellzeldayesh9619]

There is so much more to this. This is barely touching the surface. Secrets. Of coarse. Codes. Yes. Allegory. Myth. Dark sayings. Yes. Yes. Yes. It gets hard listening to people talk about Christianity like they know. Gnosis. They attempted at the church while a child. Never understanding what is meant by all the tradition and the weird shit. Mushrooms. Probably. But what are you getting at? You're right there. And still so far away. Drop your egos. And search within. This is the begining of the secret path. Secrets everywhere. What is like mushrooms but we produce it ourselves? Yup. Ok. And now what's that about? Distractions. Colors and spirals and elves and fairies. Distractions. You want to search within through all that to get to the sweet spot. No thought meditation. Where Christ consciousness is found as well as the Godhead. This is where it gets weird. You're being watched and studied. The further you go. The weirder it gets. They talk back. For me. A being. A blue female Angelic being. Named Avima. My sister now. She is with me every day now. Since Kundalini. Since. Pineal gland stuff. And third eye stuff. Crown stuff. She talks. Learning from me. Engaged in teaching an angel how to be human. That's my new job. Thanks to the path within. It started a decade ago for me. I'm 39. I'm not lying. She speaks. An alien of coarse. Angel to our ancestors. But Angelic all the real. I'm in the middle of it. No idea what to do now. Just live I guess. And the path will unfold. Anyways. Mushrooms. Ya.

[@russsle]

and this came through from an experience with mushrooms/ psychedelics or mindfulness meditation or a combination of both/ randomly?

[@TheTomahawkRepublic]

Most religions( we all know which ones ) will probably not even question what is the CONTEXT OR MEANING of what they are being told or reading they'll just follow blindly . Maybe wake up 💁. # the kingdom is within as much as on the outside .. both things are invisible .. like ideas for example .

[@stylianossaffer4338]

yall need jesas

[@nD.esign.Chicago]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@issacbernardo3460]

Have you seen this clip of Lex telling Joe that his New Studio sucks?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGOppHufYqhri6c 😂 😆

[@lethean333]

@@issacbernardo3460 🤣🤣thank you

[@The_Not_So_Great_Cornholio]

Wouldn't climbing clumsily on someone's roof, creaking across it, climb-falling down a chimney, and emerging covered soot draw a lot more attention than just doing a quick hand-off at a side window or something? The connection is cool but it still makes as much sense as santa doing it.

[@Kal-El207]

Well a lot of the Shamans that practiced this were noticed a lot and banned from places, so doing that stuff at night and sneaking around was probably a lot more easier in their minds at that time. Plus houses weren’t as large or big as they are now. Sliding down a chimney now is a death sentence. Back then? It was probably way more simplistic.

[@DeepAscension]

@@Kal-El207 a lot of dugout or in other words half in half or of the ground houses still exist to this day. I lived in one, 🙄😳 somewhere. The ability to insulate against cold and heat is key in less advanced societies.

[@bitofwizdomb7266]

Jesus must have had a cheap version of psilocybin. Buddha on the other hand got it right . He must have been catapulted into the “heavens” of reality on a heavy dose and came back with all the practical insight and wisdom that he taught

[@truethought369]

Flying reindeer, came from Santa dropping the Amanitas down through the smoke holes of the Yerts, after heavy snow. The reindeer could look down into the dwelling as they will scoff any Amanitas they could find.

[@corinnehill8565]

I lived at Fairbanks Alaska my husband worked at Prudhoe Bay... We went mushroom hunting... And we were successful... It was a wonderful amazing trip... What a score... Peace Luvs aunti

[@MM-yl9gn]

Maybe thats why on the Deer Stones, they're "flying" reindeer and all the stone henges are concentric in the order of mushroom growth. Deer shit in the tundra got them through winter alright. 🤣

[@joeleonard5345]

Psychedelics are so important. They are the key to the spirit and raising concisness. It's a crime against humanity that these tools are prohibited. You can reach these states through deep meditation but is difficult as is takes so much time and determination. Psychedelics are the cheat code. Keep in mind they MUST be used properly. If you want these tools to work properly for you, you must study conciseness and practice meditation. Psychedelics will change the world drastically if people open their minds and hearts.

[@matthijsvanemous7046]

mushrooms can make you experience stuff....but who says those experiences are the truth. Maybe they are influenced by demons

[@eliasekstrom6660]

No you don't have to study meditation. You can just smoke the damn dmt, and be humble for the experience.

[@greenthumbpatriot3295]

I’d love to see Joe Rogan take DMT and try to talk to Jesus, wouldn’t that be a great episode?

[@Roquea.207]

Im 100 agree with you