The Cons that Bullied Americans Into Canceling Red Meat (and going vegan).

[@gilbydeluxe8419]

A lot of this turned on Eisenhower's heart attack...you need to add this to your video: Eisenhower was reported to drink 15 cups of coffee and smoke 4 packs of cigarettes a day while in office! During WWII it was reported that he smoked 10 (TEN!!!) packs of cigarettes per day. Heart attack cause? I'm betting it wasn't the red meat in his diet...

[@PapagenoX09]

Jeebus, four packs of ciggies??? No effin' wonder. Man, I never understood the appeal of smoking. I was a little kid in the 1960s and back then was exposed to second hand smoke (but thankfully only when my folks had guests--out came the ashtrays because asking people to take it outside wasn't a thing then). Also when we went to someone else's house etc. I hated the smell.

[@samhwwg]

@@PapagenoX09Well it’s not really the smell of smoke that attracts people, it the chemicals that rushes into the brain.

[@SimplyHuman186]

Bread. Carbs. Hyperinsulinemia

[@theconfused_fisherman]

Just like the covid counts a few years ago. "Kenny is a 56 year old man who has diabetes, smokes 2 packs a day, weighs 350 pounds and drinks too much. Kenny died in the hospital and was found to have Covid, therefore he died of covid related illness" Uh no, how about he smoked, had a disease and drank a bunch

[@PapagenoX09]

@@samhwwg Of course, I realize that's what keeps people hooked (the nicotine especially) but could never figure out how people started smoking in the first place-- the instinctual coughing fit upon inhaling the first few times should be enough to put anyone off.

[@KenDBerryMD]

Thanks for having me on as part of this great video!!

[@denofpigs2575]

Love your work!

[@slowbrodragon6951]

I love you Dr Ken! You have helped me so much!

[@KingMickeyMouseOoO]

Dr. Ken D. Berry approves, baby!

[@SrryNoobi]

nice

[@almostspiritual]

love this info!

[@michellegiacalone1079]

PS: Seed oils and vegetable fats were a waste product left over from WW2 marketed as a food product. Low fat diets made room for companies to add flavor by putting sugar in everything. These two factors made America sick.

[@hopelesslydull7588]

Watch his video on seed oils

[@KellyNora-p8q]

Kool Whip also came about that way. Sadly.

[@judybay2372]

How about Brian Rice Oil??

[@arglebargle42]

To be pedantic, HYDROGENATED oils as food was the ww2 innovation that is screwing our health. Humans have been using seed and vegetable oils forever with no ill affects.

[@brusso456]

all processed food = vegetable fiber, vegetable oil, starch, salt, sugar and water.

[@benstanfill363]

Things like this is exactly why theres so much distrust in "experts". There's a history of experts taking money to lie.

[@parasences]

Yes, sir!

[@PeterTea]

Great and informative video. As a type 1 diabetic, I was always told to eat what I want but just count the carbs and cover it with insulin. After a decade of gaining weight and having trouble controlling my blood sugars, I greatly decreased my carb intake and upped my meat intake. Since then I’ve lost 25 pounds, feel much better and have stabilized my blood sugars. To me what works is the important thing, not dogma.

[@Nylak-Otter]

Also diabetic. I eat a low carb diet, but still don't eat meat, and I've always been fit and consistently just a bit underweight (which is where I'm comfortable, although not what my specialists recommend). Fat and animal protein doesn't need to replace carbs, and it will definitely cause health issues in other areas over time.

[@stevenkeeffe9137]

@@Nylak-Otter Very genuinely curious what "low carb ~no meat" looks like, as well as what your body uses for fuel in the absence of both carbs and fat. Seriously, genuine curiosity.

[@TheCharleseye]

​@@stevenkeeffe9137 That's why they're underweight. The low-carb part of the diet gives some fuel but not enough, so their body is slowly eating itself.

[@dottie269]

I reversed pre diabetes and lost 115 pounds eating mostly red meat, low carb. I've kept it off for almost 3 years now. I don't care what the "experts" say. I'm listening to Dr. Berry and believing my own eyes and lab results!

[@denofpigs2575]

​@@TheCharleseyeThat's fine. Autophagy is an important process in the body because it prioritizes digesting senescent cells not healthy ones. Where it gets bad is if you eat so little you waste away. As long as fats (preferably animal fat) are eaten in a good amount you'll have enough energy and materials for gluconeogenesis and ketosis.

[@hobocraft0]

Before I watch this entire video, I'll throw my hat in the ring, it's not that meat makes us unhealthy, it's that we make unhealthy meat.

[@defeqel6537]

Before I watch this entire video, even processed meat is probably healthier than all the junk around it

[@TheCookiePup]

​@@defeqel6537like soda, fries, and barbecue sauce? Yeah i think so

[@robotdookie]

I'm definitely stealing that. Well put.

[@Horticarter41]

Hear hear

[@InaStanley83]

​@@TwisterTornadoas a regenerative farmer and someone who raises hogs, I'll share that they're actually pretty clean animals. While they do enjoy rooting for insects and grubs and well, roots, and they do enjoy creating wallows of mud to keep themselves cool and protect their skin from both sun exposure and external parasites, they typically don't wallow in their own excrement. They tend to choose a specific area of their enclosure as a "bathroom" that's separate from where they sleep or eat. If they do end up in their own waste, it's usually because the farmer / rancher has them in a too-small enclosure and isn't doing what's necessary to keep that enclosure clean. I run my hogs in the woods and rotate them through different areas every few days using portable electric fencing. That gives the forage and grass a chance to heal from their rooting, it gives their waste a chance to break down into the soil naturally (which is very good for the soil), and it gives any lingering parasites a chance to disperse or die off without their preferred hosts. The hogs get a new clean spot to hang out and root around in, new forage to eat, and new stuff to explore and give them a little mental stimulation (because pigs are very intelligent and enjoy exploring and figuring stuff out). Folks talk about pork as if it's this incredibly dirty meat, and in a factory farming setting it is... because factory farms tend to keep too many animals in too small a space while feeding them an unnatural / not biologically appropriate diet. But it doesn't have to be that way, especially since pigs themselves are actually no dirtier than cattle or chickens or goats.

[@yee8lang]

I have 20 years experience as a chef. When we use beef tallow or lard for the deep fryer, there no grease build up for zero cleaning... but when we used deep frying oil, the grease build up is insane. And it's the same with seed oils and grease build up on the walls

[@alleyoop5185]

Makes me wonder if the big stink about McDonald’s fries being made in beef tallow was because they knew it was better for health and of course let’s change it to soy/canola oil with artificial beef flavor.

[@Ouchimoo]

@@alleyoop5185 And also the fries have just been awful since then.

[@DDracee]

and the polymerization on the tools themselves... that stuff gets stuck in your fat and is nearly impossible to "burn off", thus the skinny-fat phenomenon

[@Madnessinmedia]

As a southern Arizonian who likes to drive around the state for the heck of it, I have seen a large increase in feed lots that feature huge acreage of fields of beautiful green grass around them. The grass is harvested for hay and fed to the cattle which poop all over the ground they occupy. Also straw is put down to help catch the stuff. This stuff is scraped off the ground and concrete between occupations and worked into the fields reseeded with grass. Add irrigation water and magic happens. This repeating cycle has to be profitable or the cattle producers would not do it. The same thing is occurring north of I-8 in Imperial County, CA. This has to be increasing the quality of U.S . raised beef.

[@katarh]

A lot of that happens in the southern US as well. The only problems is that our land is naturally forest here, so the land has to be artificially kept as grassland in order to use it for that purpose. Makes more sense to do that in Arizona!

[@soilmanted]

@Madnessinmedia Straw is put down on the ground where the cattle are to help catch their poop? The poop-laden straw is scraped off the ground? Where do concrete and occupations come into the picture?

[@Epidian]

​@soilmanted Cattle in lots need at least some concrete hardstanding or they'd end up in a mudbath.

[@soilmanted]

@@Epidian OK but that doesn't explain "occupations." Cattle don't have "occupations." No accounting clerks, store managers, real estate brokers, or dentists. They just meander around eating grass. Farmers have an occupation , singular. It's called farming.

[@Epidian]

@@soilmanted "Occupations" refers to the periods of time that a batch occupies a particular pen ( think of the German occupation of France). You can't muck out a pen with a skid steer loader or whatever if it's still occupied ( or populated) by cattle. Also any cattle I've ever had have been heavily occupied by feeding and breeding but that's a different type of occupation. The verb occupy comes from the French word for busy as in je suis tres occupe.

[@blargcoster]

One thing I really respect about LMNT is that they straight up give you the recipe for their product. They're real stand up people.

[@dylanp629]

sick pfp bro

[@Makeuplooks-x8]

I wouldn't do that

[@maggienelson4437]

The problem - as the doctor said at the end - is ALL the modern factory farmed animals. They all get CORN instead of grass. It's as though we're ALL eating the corn oil through the meat we eat, be it chicken, beef or pork. Modern meat is not what your grandparents ate. That said, this video, like all the rest of your stuff, is pretty awesome. Thank you so much.

[@KatrinaT]

But also, a lot of ranches raise cattle only on grass until they are sold to feed lots and finished on corn. That's how it works up here in Montana anyway...

[@maggienelson4437]

@@KatrinaT that's right, but it's still corn fed beef, no?

[@andrewpizzino2514]

There’s a difference between a ruminant animal and pork and chicken. Don’t believe the impact of corn fed is the same.

[@KatrinaT]

@maggienelson4437 yep. But, it's better than processed foods that include sugar and vegetable oils. I would rather support cattle ranchers... Ideally I buy grass fed meat and for the most part we eat game that we hunt. But sometimes we but a steak or roast at a regular grocery store. Doing the best I can to support regenerative farming but also trying to keep from spending our entire paycheck on the grocery bill. 🤪

[@KatrinaT]

@andrewpizzino2514 I agree, with only one stomach, they process the corn differently and I think it does make a big difference. I hate factory farmed chicken, well I don't much care for poultry in general. I have 6 geese and 2 goats in the back yard that will be butchered this fall because of my aversion to factory-farmed meat.

[@red-baitingswine8816]

The agricultural revolution was 10,000 yrs ago. By then, humans had long béen adapted to meat. Imo 10,000 yrs isn't long enough for a species-specific diet to radically change. Fossils show the poor health after the A.R.

[@carolinecornelis40]

I was just about to leave a comment to say this, so glad to see someone has already said it (& much better than I could ever have, haha).

[@red-baitingswine8816]

@@carolinecornelis40 Thank you!

[@lessanderfer7195]

Southern India begs to differ... Most cultures must intake some meat to be healthy, but a few have made the change. Vegetarian is much better than Vegan, however, both are problematic unless you come from the few cultures that have already acclimated to it.

[@stanthebamafan]

“Vegetable oil” was such a great marketing term. It’s not even made from vegetables. It’s made from soybeans. It sounds a lot healthier than it is.

[@maenad1231]

Be careful to not of lump everything called a “vegetable oil” together. “Vegetable oil” is an umbrella term _(misleading one because no one uses vegetable simply means “vegetation” anymore but still)_ not a synonym for soybean oil in particular. Cocoa butter, Soybean oil, Grape seed Oil, Rape seed oil, Corn Oil, Cotton seed, Sunflower oil, Peanut Oil, Sesame oil, Safflower Oil, Hemp Oil are all in the group of “vegetable oils” _(though in the calling them “seed oils” is more accurate because they’re are made from oilseeds)_ “Vegetable oils” also include ones not made from seeds like; Olive Oil, Rice Bran Oil, Palm Oil, Avocado Oil, Algae Oil, Marula Oil, & Coconut Oil And on the topic of healthfulness theoretically none of them would be that bad if westerns didn’t regularly cook with them and we didn’t regularly eat ultraprocessed/processed food that contains them in substantial quantities - but the large majority of people do at least one these two things. So for the more questionable ones dose & frequency would be high enough for them to be a problem since oil is still viable for cooking/processing in tiny quantities. Also I think it’s arguable in an otherwise healthy diet that certain fresh vegetable oils actually could serve as a rather healthful part of one’s diet. In essence: Olive Oil, Rapeseed oil, Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Cocoa butter, Avocado Oil & Corn Oil all have such distinct nutrition profiles, effects on the body , & unique qualities that it’s kinda silly to speak on one’s healthfulness and apply that to any of the others. “Vegetable oil” is a diverse group

[@CarnivorousMan]

Vegetable oil is actually seed oil from a variety of vegetables. I stick to cooking with grass fed tallow.

[@epiczombies34]

News flash ding song vetabale oil isn't always soybeans and Soybeans are a vegetable

[@waltercraig137]

​@@CarnivorousMangrass fed talow is actually just seed oil from a bunch of different talows

[@epiczombies34]

@waltercraig137 in the same way corn and tomatoes are. These are what are known as colliqual definition the definition that most people use most of the time regardless of scientific accuracy. All categories are arbitrary and human creations that don't exist without humans.

[@blattwald7650]

You're doing more investigative journalism, than whole news-paper armada

[@c1humley]

🤣LOL

[@redguy2076]

Ancel Keys discarded data because of inconvenience. I question everything I'm forced fed nowadays especially if its on a foundation of an appeal to authority or if its using celebrity influence.

[@dottie269]

Bravo! I did the opposite of what my obese diabetic doctor told me to do and i reversed pre diabetes and lost 115 pounds. We've been misled! The medical, scientific and most other establishments are corrupt to the core now. Can't "trust the science" when it's bought and paid for.

[@thefourthdymensionmusic]

100%

[@Fitzrovialitter]

Please substantiate your assertation. (If possible)

[@shipwreckkt]

This has been debunked. There has been a big movement trying to discredit Ancel Keys.

[@Fitzrovialitter]

@@shipwreckkt There has.

[@erichildebrandt9490]

I agree to finding the best you can afford. Where I live, small family farms sell beef by the whole, half, and quarter. When you break it down, it comes out to the same price as the supermarket. The catch is that you have to have a large freezer and be ready to pay for a years worth of beef, plus get cuts you may not care for. The cattle roam on open pasture, not a cramped feedlot probably contributes to healthier meat. You also support a local farmer, not Con-Agra, Swift, Smithfield (which I think is now Chinese owned), so the money stays close to home.

[@angelachouinard4581]

Where I live people who wat to do that and have small families or small freezers will go shares with friends or neighbors or church members. It can be fun learning how to use cuts your not used to. My Mexica fried taught me how to use flank steak, I've shared the methods & recipes with several people.

[@ItsBoyRed]

The farmer could farm plants instead of animals, far more efficient and then no animal would have to suffer. You also wouldn't need to cough up a lot of money at once to get fed. Its a win-win. Go vegan 🌱

[@stonegiant4]

Those remarks on factory farming are exactly why i raise most of my own meat. I try to only eat meat that i know the provenance of if i can help it.

[@UpperCumberlandGamers]

I would also like to raise the point that at least in my local one, locally owned and operated slaughterhouses that are independent of any big company usually have meat which is from animals which were raised in the local area.

[@spunkysamuel]

Is it as hard as I'm thinking it is to raise meat. Like I'm sure I can raise some chickens but otherwise idk how one would raise their own meat other than owning a whole farm

[@SubieNinja]

I raise my meat when my wife takes her shirt off

[@zephyr2002]

That's good. Too many are disconnected. After seeing in person what animal agriculture looks like, I made the choice not to participate as much as practically possible. It certainly made my life simpler the last 12 years. Plus, I learned to cook with a variety of plants I never would have bothered to try.

[@TheCharleseye]

​@@spunkysamuel I have no interest in raising cattle, so I trade with a neighbor who does. I'm a much better hunter than a farmer, so I trade him some venison, feral pork, and wild turkey for equal weight in beef. He's happy, I'm happy, it's all good. If you can find someone who is willing to barter and you're not much of a hunter, figure out if there's anything you can offer in trade. Maybe he could use a hand once in a while. Maybe you've got something that's more valuable to him than it is to you. You'd be amazed what some friendly conversation and an open mind can do for you.

[@4umata]

There's a joke that the word for vegetarian in my native language translates to "bad hunter"

[@RogueWave2030]

I love it!

[@Thehogwhisperer]

True story… 😂

[@aick]

I'd be pretty impressed with someone who could live off just plants where I live (desert Southwest)... everybody here knows how to hunt.

[@My_Anarchist_Superhero]

What’s your native language?

[@maryrowe3981]

😂😂😂 thanks for sharing!

[@rubyparker5831]

My issue with "carnivore" vs "veggie/vegan" is the blanket statements. I'm sure you'll get into this in the video (I'm barely in) but the human experience is so variable. Especially considering nutrition. What works really well for one person could do nothing for someone else- or end up being actively harmful. Especially when it comes to cutting out whole food categories. I could go on and on about how going gluten free was life changing, how it solved so many problems I was having, how I feel so much better now. I would never say that every person needs to go gluten free right now and they'll feel so much better. Because I have celiac disease (and tbh I think a lot of people who go gluten free and say it's life changing and everyone needs to do it probably have undiagnosed celiacs). I also have issues with red meat, and I know several people who have issues with red meat. My mom, my sister, my mom's sister, and now me all slowly over time started getting sick after eating red meat. All of us have cut it out of our diets and feel much better. My dad meanwhile can eat red meat all day and be totally fine. Quite frankly I think a lot of people do not understand how different everyone's bodies are. I'll stick to my gluten free, red meat free diet, buy lactase pills and cut down on dairy for the rest of my life. I don't think everyone should do the same thing by any means. I think you should find what feels good for you and stick with that. I wish more people felt that way too.

[@shuu4869]

I agree with this a lot. Even the same diet stops working for the same person after a while. I am also celiac and my dietary journey has taken me everywhere from keto to 1 meal every other day to carnivore to whatever the BCAA reducing diet is called (basically extremely low protein). A lot of these diets feel GREAT when you start but overtime issues can creep up. Both in carnivore and veganism you have these almost like streak trophies where people have been lion diet carnivore for 5 years, or full vegan for 10 years. They ignore health problems that from an outsider obviously stems from their diets just because they dont want to break their streak.

[@ac4941]

There is no such thing as a standardized human diet. I also think that, at least Americans, are quick to attribute normal aging to dietary choices. Humans are the ultimate generalists, just gotta eat a nutritionally balanced diet with what makes your individual body feel good and you'll be fine all things considered.

[@defeqel6537]

But gluten actually is bad for everyone, so nothing would be lost by everyone going gluten free. Veganism is another matter as it is inherently lacking nutrients, especially so for a good proportion of people whose bodies cannot do some nutrient conversions (like K1 -> K2, beta carotene -> retinol, ALA -> EPA, etc.), while carnivore is nutritionally complete. But I do agree that everyone needs to listen to their own bodies and do what works for them.

[@cerilious]

Great comment.

[@lucyla9947]

​@@defeqel6537 Bread wouldn't have been a culinary staple for so long if Gluten was actively bad for people.

[@NavaBromberger]

Great video! You explain things so clearly. This is my new favorite nutrition channel. A couple of things I'm surprised you didn't include: 1.) How the sugar industry bribed two Harvard professors to say that sugar was not unhealthy and instead to point the finger at fat as the problem. Everyone just blindly accepted it, and that led to the low-fat movement, obesity, and diabetes. There was never any research to support it; worse, no one asked to see the data. 2.) Bacon's demonization came from faulty research. A medical researcher (who worked alone) did some studies about feeding bacon to rats and thought he saw cancer. But the research was faulty, and later, when other researchers reviewed it, they said they would never have come to that conclusion. Meanwhile, the message was already out that bacon causes cancer. 3.) The Seventh-day Adventist Church played a significant role in shaping negative public perceptions about eating meat by influencing health institutions and funding biased research.

[@BluuBird2]

Med student here with a personal interest in nutrition - right off the bat I have to say I was sceptical about this video due to the wording of the title. I was expecting some pseudoscientific compilation of cherry-picked sources as to why "everything that's traditional and supposedly natural is automatically healthy and everybody who doesn't eat meat is stupid or malicious". I'm really glad your intro convinced me to try and look beyond my personal bias and just for a second say to myself "well, what if this person has a valuable point that I've never considered?". You really made an effort to be nuanced in your statements and transparent with your sources and methods, which I greatly appreciate. And looking into more recent nutritional research myself, I was surprised to find that a lot of what's still in med-school textbooks nowadays is simply outdated (such as the straightforward link between saturated fats and high cholesterol levels). As you rightly pointed out, it's just too difficult to try and account for all kinds of confounding factors, and it seems we're discovering more and more of them as we look into this. So thanks for educating me on something I thought I was already pretty educated on

[@NoSmoke1]

I don't think you can call yourself an ethical vegetarian if you still don't have a problem with funding the industry you claim to dislike. Would you still treat meat as a luxury if you had the money to buy it consistently?

[@BluuBird2]

@@NoSmoke1 Maybe I phrased my views poorly: I am not against eating meat or animal products by principle. However, I do not support the industry that produces cheap, massive amounts of meat with no regard for how the animals are treated. I believe that if I had the money to buy high quality meat, I would most likely eat it more often (right now I eat meat maybe once a month or every two months; if I had higher income, I figure it might increase to about once per week).

[@NoSmoke1]

@@BluuBird2 Oh alright, yeah I get what you're saying now. When you said you were vegetarian and that you still ate meat it just threw me off

[@cloudthief8918]

Hello. Fellow med student here. I am also a vegan and have written a response comment that you can probably see by clicking my profile. I don't think he gave any good points in this video excepts "companies will do anything for profit, including funding science that supports them" but this also applies to the massive worldwide meat industry. I can just as easily assign his video to a reactionary antivegan conspiracy as he assigns the American Cancer society studies to plant based companies. He disregards long standing evidence of meat and animal products contributing to cancers and heart disease, the main killers in the us. He assumes these researchers don't know what they're doing, and forget that the average American eats burger buns and fries? It's bizarre, unless it's intentionally misleading, in which case it's smart because many commentors are reinforced in their views now

[@trevnti]

I studied data analytics and a couple of my friends are researchers and something I appreciate for you as a med student is ability to look at bias. So many times we have gotten into it with our medical friends who use studies because we’ll all look at the same studies and question… What’s the purpose of the research (this is important because my teacher used to say… a study can prove almost any theory under the right circumstances) Who funded the study… How is the study worded… How was the study conducted. Double blind, observational, self reported… What samples did the use (such as all white males, mixed males females, mixed ethnic groups… what are the age ranges). And a lot of our friends who are in the medical industry shut down everything… well I’m a doctor… yes and medicine is a practice, it’s not an absolute. It’s best on research and studies… like many published books… some info can be biased or outdated

[@DIYDaveOK]

THANK YOU for putting out there what many of us have known for YEARS. I read a book called "The Cholesterol Myth" that blew this thing to shreds for me probably 20 years ago. What a shame so many have fallen for it.

[@michellegiacalone1079]

My doctor asked me if I wanted a cholesterol test. I said no and explained why, and she was completely fine with that.

[@michellegiacalone1079]

PS: I'm 58 with great BP and no disease conditions. (I do leave out sugar and wheat.)

[@fanukam]

That doesn't work on a population level - layne norton has spoken at length about it and cites numerous meta-analyses that show that high LDL cholesterol is a direct predictor for population level CVD

[@dottie269]

@@fanukam he's a 🤡

[@Dryloch]

The ancient hunters used chiseled rocks to butcher meat. When they first found these tools, the scientists tried their hand at replicating them. It took them hours to make one. Therefore, they assumed that these were prized possesions that were carried around from hunt to hunt. It turns out that the hunters were able to bang one out quickly and then throw it away after. That is how much hunting and meat eating went on. The other example is how they classified newly found societies. If the teeth of the corpses were rotted out and the bones weak, they always turned out to be agrarian based. If they had minor tooth decay and strong bones, they were found to be hunters mainly. We were made to eat meat.

[@TimGreigPhotography]

That's really interesting

[@keithwinget6521]

I suspect it's a lot more probable to say that they broke a lot. Bone is hard, and while rock is also hard, even the best rock-based tool is likely to break WAY more often than most metal tools that were made later. To say they wouldn't carry them from hunt to hunt, then is a guess, at best. I'd wager they would, simply because of the fact they'd always want to have tools ready for various things if possible. That said, different groups could also have had different attitudes about the value of their tools, and that is also subject to the quality of available rock to work into tools where they were. Then a consideration for nomadic groups will also be how likely or not it would be to find usable rocks for tools wherever they were currently traveling to. I'll bet they kept tools as well as they could for this reason alone, not necessarily to avoid the labor of having to make new, but because good rock material for tools was never guaranteed. That said, most of the places where it would be harder to find good tool rock would be when the ground is permafrost, and most of the surface doesn't have exposed rocks everywhere or if they had to traverse places where it was very swampy or muddy and therefore very suboptimal to find rocks (they'd be there, just awful to get to). There are many more considerations surrounding this topic I can't even begin to think of, I'm sure. Oversimplifying things like this might seem like a nice way to put it to bed and move on, but if you really want to know for sure, you have to dig deeper. Now I'm more curious and am about to go on a reading binge about it.

[@coffeemachtspass]

The earliest stone tools have been found in Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, over 3 million years old. Similar tools (the Acheulean hand axes) were made from lots of different rock all over the place for more than a million years. Good design, apparently. But as humans themselves became smarter, the designs became specialized and required specific rock types. That rock was carried around and maybe traded among different groups.

[@HappilyAnonymousGirl]

Reminds me of how it was starting my job. I was insanely slow then compared to now. Anyone could make these tools very quickly if they knew how to make them and had lots of practice.

[@davidr2863]

Just because they ate a lot of meat doesn't mean it's best for overall health. They did a lot of things we'd never do today but for some reason people are stuck on retaining their ancestor's diet even though it may not maximize longevity. Who cares what they ate? Focus on the available longevity studies and the populations who experience long lives instead of anecdotal ideas.

[@miketranfaglia3986]

Fantastic presentation! Western doctors (and I'm one of them) have ruined our health, but this kind of information is gradually helping us claw our way back to where we were before the Medical Industrial Complex took hold.

[@michaelcrain3360]

Johnny, you are killing it with dietary messaging! U.S. and now world nutrition education has been and continues to be fueled by lies.

[@ogeoge6000]

Great video, thank you. Changing my diet saved me from debilitating back pain, nerve pain, joint pain, muscle pain, digestive issues, raised blood pressure, 20kg over weight. It took around 8 months for all these problems to resolve. I'm completely pain free and never felt and looked healthier. Since 2020 I've only been eating fatty meats, seafood, eggs and dairy. Prior to that I was eating the mainstream version of a healthy diet (lots of veggies, fruit, whole grains, low fat, eating the rainbow etc) for decades and watching my health slowly decline. Dr Anthony Chaffee, Dr Paul Mason, Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, Dr Gary Fettke, Dr Benjamin Bikman, Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, all helped me get my health back.

[@sunnyday6465]

Similar here only I go more with Paul Saladino, carnivore and fruit mostly.

[@SilverDawn168]

My personal experience with this is I have emphysema. I went to a high meat low carb diet. now some days I don't need to take my medication and the SOB attacks stopped. 😊

[@thesomewhatfantasticmrfox]

The Carnivore Diet (all meat with the exception of some fruits), my brother managed to suppress his Chron's Disease. Long story short, the doctor was like, "Whatever you're doing, keep doing it".

[@iloveseaglass]

So many have been healed by meat and fat. Been doing it a year now. Love how simple it all is

[@CRneu]

and yet you can find other people who completely ditch animal products and their health improves. Crazy how that works!

[@JonnyCrackers]

@@CRneu I think the key is ditching highly processed foods with lots of oils and sugar.

[@SimGunther]

We shouldn't feel like eating a specific type of food gets us brownie points so we belong to a specific crowd or that we would be monetizable. We need to eat good foods we can afford, but the system makes it hard for us to do the quality research, get insightful knowledge from doctors with our best health in mind without feeling like they got paid off hy a megafood/nutrient foundation, and afford the food we know we should eat.

[@rasputozen]

The biggest food companies are all centered around animal products.

[@michaelcrain3360]

I view myself as a citizen scientist in this field; an engineer by trade. After decades of trial and error diet types and then a deep dive research stint over the last eight years, achieving good health seems pretty simple to me now. I would start with an elimination diet. This is red meat and animal fats. How long I am on this regimen will determine my health benefits over time. I feel amazing like never before. If I still feel that this is too restrictive, I’ll add some eggs, dairy and cheese to the extent that my body can tolerate them. This is still an extremely healthy way of eating, considering what our bodies can do with this food. If I still need more variety, I’ll start adding back vegetables. Vegetables are actually anti-nutrient for humans and may require taking supplements. I’ll still be healthier than I’ve ever been as long as red meat and animal fat makes up the majority of my diet or unless I have extreme sensitivity to the anti-nutrients or pesticide remnants in vegetables. Then fruits. However, if I start adding grains back in, my health will noticeably decline. I’ll never reintroduce seed oils back into my diet.

[@jax9349]

Most Dr's I know eat crap! Recently a Dr I work with said he eats whole food vegan. I told him I eat whole food meat. He said don't do that you will kill yourself! I replied, " 3 million years of evolution would lead me to disagree " he said please take a Dr's advice. I laughed, but he is a nice guy and we parted friends.

[@GeoffreyMorrison-xh2eo]

Drs typically don't know much about foods and supplements. Training basically consists of surgery, radiation, and drugs.

[@Baptized_in_Fire.]

​​@@michaelcrain3360 I would not add dairy or eggs. Now, this is just me, but I found adding some activated hardwood charcoal was helpful, since I don't consume fiber. It has been helping pull toxins out. Once one fixes the toxicities and deficiencies (sometimes over years), and maybe before then, I think the muscle meat only carnivore diet is the optimal diet for humans. Assuming we are all 1 species Edit: I wouldn't add any toxins back into my diet. By deduction we determined that red meat, salt to taste, and water, are about the only non toxic things for the human body. Anything beyond that would then be toxic to some degree. Why take toxins on purpose? I'd rather get to my optimal health.

[@cronoz-sensei4259]

I am going to be honest with you, I am going to need to do a lot more of my own research to get an opinion on this. But I am thankful that you made me go out of my way to look for these things, so that I not only can but also want to make my own conclusion on this. The bottom line that Ive started to take away as a general trend is that Americans view a lot of their science as being funded by either the government or corporations to back up their views, same with creating documentaries, nutrition related articles on the internet and video essays on social media platforms. As such, I am choosing to not trust you unconditionally and I believe you have your own bias towards what views you hold, in which there is no wrong we are biased by design as humans. I will happily want to engage in this discussion and learning with you and your audience though, as such I appreciate your content not for being necesarilly educational as much as being conversation opening content. Thank you for your work.

[@NoLabCoatRequired]

This comment give me so much hope in how, _I believe_ , we should receive messages. I never want to replace anyone else's discernment. We're all susceptible to blind trust. From me to you, Thank you for thinking critically!

[@batcrow6224]

​@@NoLabCoatRequired Your little soapbox bit at the start of the video does wonders for this approach. I've been researching on my own and double checking everything as I've been watching and it's been really interesting so far.

[@carnivorehippie8071]

There are two verifiable and undebated facts that tilt the argument heavily toward pro-meat. One: Human beings REQUIRE a nutrient (B12) that is ONLY found in sufficient quantity in animal sourced food. There is no non-animal source of B12 that is not synthetic or refined/processed in a way that would have been accessible to primitive-living humans. Two: Stable nitrogen isotope testing on the collagen found in the long bones of ancient human remains shows that pre-agricultural humans all over the globe ate diets of 70%-90% animal sourced food. There is no debate, this is not opinion. The science exists. Human beings are obligate carnivores. CASE CLOSED.

[@elgatochurro]

Sheep

[@MissRora]

@@elgatochurro Being open to new information and not wanting to act impulsively is the _opposite_ of the "sheep" mentality.

[@JeanieD]

I wish that I could get my doctors to understand all of this. My cholesterol tests come back with a total they never like, and they always tsk-tsk and threaten to put me on statins. But my HDL-LDL ratio is great, and there’s still no direct evidence that “high cholesterol” will cause me to have a heart attack. Especially since I’ve never smoked.

[@connerblank5069]

I'm pretty sure _most_ people who are vegetarian or vegan do it for ethical reasons. The absolute terror that is factory farming, how it contributes to climate change, not eating things that can feel pain, that kind of thing. Cutting out specifically _red_ meat is a little different, of course, though it is worth mentioning that red meat tends to be a little more of all those things.

[@armorclasshero2103]

ALL living things feel pain. Veganism is no ethical silver bullet.

[@ethanbradley2796]

"they" don't believe in climate change, trust the science only when its convenient, im just waiting to hear someone suggest raw milk

[@aMazeInGPros]

​@@armorclasshero2103 They have to be sentient in order to feel, plants are not.

[@chestersnap]

I primarily switched to being vegetarian after learning about how much more efficient it is from a land and water use perspective. I remain vegetarian because I've been so long enough that I've developed an intolerance for meat and I've always found it kind of gross to prepare and handle raw

[@blademasterzero]

@@aMazeInGProsit’s actually been studied and it’s believed that many plants do feel a form of pain. The more you know

[@mabru9816]

Thank you for this. I really love the thought and attention you put into each video. My husband and I go through many dietary phases but definitely feel best when we eat meat just a few times a week and stay away from processed foods all together. One big change we started making at the meat counter is instead of buying pre-ground beef, we pick a cut and have it freshly ground. This has helped cut down on my intrusive concerns over getting sick from ground beef. I think just being more mindful overall over what we're putting in our bodies is something everyone can strive to be.

[@stevenkeeffe9137]

I have found that I can't tolerate ground beef from those styrofoam 'flats'.... but have no issues with the bulk meat in 'tubes'... best I can guess is that there's no air contact in the tubes. Oxidation, maybe?

[@kingzach74]

@@stevenkeeffe9137 Preservation. Likely the meat in the Styrofoam flats weren't preserved with any salts or any other preservative and therefore don't last as long.

[@vulcanfeline]

@@stevenkeeffe9137 yes. exposure to the air and all it's floaters. that's my opinion. flats can't sit in the fridge for more than a couple of days before smelling bad, but the tubes can endure more than a week before i pack them up in reused containers and freeze them. also, who needs all that extra garbage in the flats.

[@stevenkeeffe9137]

@@vulcanfeline The biggest preference for the tubes for me are that I can take them straight home and freeze. No freezer burn. I typically consume 1lb at a time, so no waste of packaging, too.

[@stevenkeeffe9137]

@@kingzach74 There's also whatever it is they put in the packaging for those cellophane-wrapped styrofoam flats to keep the meat from turning brown. I don't know if it's an issue, but red meat doesn't stay red when exposed to air.... unless you replace that air with something else.

[@grstafford]

9:23 Very nice presentation, young man. I haven’t seen one of yours for a while and this one came across. After watching it, I remembered a few others a while back that I had watched. You have a real talent. You’re going places. Best of success for you!!

[@KDaisy]

Thank you! As someone who avoided meat for years because of all this propaganda I now eat a varied omnivorous diet which includes a lot of different low carb veggies & animal proteins including a moderate amount of red meat. Beef, bison, pork, chicken, fish or whatever else I can find. It keeps it interesting. I cook 99% of my food at home. We keep blaming meat for what sugar, junk food and cigarettes did.

[@30dollarcatbus]

I'm in a unique boat.. vegetarian leaning, not because I dislike red meat, but because I had my gallbladder removed at 19yo. Nobody talks about how much the digestive system relies on the gallbladder, or how the estrogen in BC can affect it.. digesting red meat (for example) before and after the surgery would cause severe abdominal cramps. Now, 8 years later, I'm unsure if I continue to have digestion difficulties due to not having a gallbladder, or from avoiding red meat consumption for so long.

[@aljosalp]

There is some misinformations in this video. Forst is on Ancel Keys. His 7 nation study was misused several times and he was a proponent of a healty mediterenian diet, that have also meet but in moderation. Next, deli meat is full of preservatives that are nitrates that does do cancer, not just increase the risk. Last to comment is that also cheap meet is better than vegetables is also a misleading point. As cheap meet is from animals that live in unhealthy conditions and under stress. So their level of stress hormons are elevated and also ia full of antibiotics. So meat yes, moderate, high quality and without preservatuves is to eat, with a balanced diet without preaervatives and sugar.

[@illusionist1430]

This hits home because I thought about who stands to gain from us eating crap food. Otto Warburb even figured out how to negatively impact cancer and won a Nobel prize and yet we still use chemo as the first option. Ever since I switched to a modified carnivore diet (was hard core meat and leafy green only) I lost 35 lbs in 2 months. Also all of my allergies went away even lactose intolerance. I am not a pure carnivore because I think it is not sustainable with family functions but I eat only meat and season my food with everything but sugar.

[@dipf7705]

Same here, feel so much better

[@aiddog10gaming82]

Lactose intolerance is a caused by genetics and cannot be solved by eating more meat. The core issue is that your body doesn’t produce the lactase enzyme to digest lactose. Consuming more red meat cannot make your body start creating lactase. This is evidenced by over 90% of Asian Americans being lactose intolerant while only 36% of Americans in general are lactose intolerant. It’s about genetics- not your diet.

[@imbretzy]

Try looking into epigenetics. Nothing is set in stone, not even your "genetics". Certain switches can turn on or off. Change your environment/behaviors and these "switches" respond. ​@aiddog10gaming82

[@jasonjohnston94]

I have to admit I watched this video while enjoying a T-bone steak. Both were great!

[@ailidav]

I really appreciate this video. As a health coach and someone who studied public health, it’s crazy how much of nutrition/medical/health education still teaches people the dogma of “saturated fat is bad”. there’s so much nuance and the cholesterol/sat fat relation to heart disease has been debunked… but education and public knowledge isn’t caught up with the research. And is affected by who funds what. Videos like this which break down the facts and show historical events is so important!

[@tsingletary6311]

I really appreciate the nuance you present. I'd like to bring your attention to another factor that impacts meat, particularly large cattle, consumption: the environmental impacts of meat production. Much like animal welfare, this position is more about the how than the what. The amount of land, water, and other resources required to produce foods from animals is exponentially more than producing food from plants, because the cattle require plant foods to be produced for them to eat. Reducing the amount of average animal consumption, reduces the inputs required to feed the nation, our carbon footprint and other environmental impacts. I'm 40 and stopped eating beef and pork in the late 90's as a 12 year old in TX terrified of mad cow disease. I then slowly moved away from animal products until becoming no-purchase vegan in my early 20's. Some folks call this freegan, but that is a very broad and often unserious term. I would eat vegetarian animal products if they were the options I was presented with, but my dollars were only spent on vegan foods and mostly identified my diet as plant-based over vegan. I returned cheese to my diet occasionally around 5 years ago, and recently swapped that for eggs occasionally. I noticed a change in my stress resilience and, after trying multiple b vitamin supplements for over a year, decided to go back to a vegetarian diet. This is working out better for me. I most appreciate your highlighting corporate food interests affect vegan products. I've gotten into arguments with vegans over eating honey, among other things. It is important to understand what suffering is required to produce and deliver products to consumers at certain price points across the board. So while it is most obvious animals confined and slaughtered for meat, eggs and milk suffer greatly, if you claim to eat according to a moral calling to do so without causing suffering, the suffering of workers and ecosystems in the production of factory farmed soy and other plant-based items must also be considered. Me getting scolded for buying and consuming locally produced honey over white sugar refined through cattle bone char by a vegan quoting vegan.com to me who has no idea what ConAgra is or does and the impacts of mass-produced highly processed vegan protein products is... upsetting. All that to say, annoying vegans are annoying to everyone. Even those of us who chose not to continue eating meat a long time ago. We are all responsible for understanding our impacts on the planet, and most people try to find justifications for our shortfalls regardless of our decisions. Just do your best, keep gathering new information, and let it refine your position. Peace and love fam

[@_1cupofjojo179]

I was literally looking in the comments for SOMEONE to mention the environmental impact! I'm surprised he never mentioned it!!

[@armorclasshero2103]

The buildings we create are literally a worse environmental problem than meat.

[@AhnkoCheeOutdoors]

Excellent unbiased information as usual Johnny, thank you very much. I am in Hawaiʻi where we locals still hunt for our meals in the mountains, and the sea. All land mammals are introduced, and invasive, so pigs, deer, goat sheep, and even cattle are multiplying faster than they can be eliminated, thus destroying the unique island ecosystem. Eat meat and save the islands.

[@abesouth3805]

Well researched. I never believed in the crap Ancel Keys put out, it lacked science. I been a believer in red meat and saturated fat since the days I could think for myself. I’m 71 now. It probably helps that I’ve a background in biology.

[@DTex.45ACP]

I eat all the saturated fat (Kerrygold butter ftw) and my cholesterol is 48/76. Absolutely minimum of seed/veg oil. Damn good video, thank you.

[@defeqel6537]

butter is about 40% saturated IIRC, not sure if Kerrygold is doing something differently, but I doubt it

[@PamelaTheGoodSteward]

29:25 L.I.A.R- Language of observational studies: (L) Link 🔗 (I) Increase/intake 📈 (A) Association 🫂 (R) Risk 🛑 This acronym you coined @NoLabCoatRequired is BRILLIANT! 😮 wow 🎉

[@michaelcrain3360]

I’ve viewed many presentations and interviews by actual scientist and scientist that I believe are bought and paid for. They have two distinctly different characteristics in how deliver and debate their points. Once you become familiar with these two styles it’s easy to spot the bullshit and the truth.

[@kimmypfeiffer9130]

no one bullied me or tricked me into being vegan...some of us are born this way...i am angry that i had no one supporting my dislike of animal products and lied to me that i HAD to eat animals or i would die...i was so relieved when i grew up and learned how to eat vegan!

[@MasterMafiaDK]

You are legitimately my favorite knowledge based unbiased youtuber, you feel like the adult version of Vsauce (I grew up with that so that is my childhood lol)

[@heathercouch5075]

Please consider a vlog on the demonization of sunshine and how the benefits outweigh the risks. Thank you for all you do!

[@Ash-op2ql]

Dude, I don’t think looking back centuries to see what people eat is fair because people didn’t live very long. Not that that complete proves or disproves anything. Just using it as a metric for health is tricky.

[@ToonsGoofyMemes]

That's based on the flawed premise that people didn't live long before. Life expectancy was skewed due to child mortality. There's so many studies disproving that myth. One I just found literally found that men in Ancient Rome who survived childhood were expected to live to 72 years of age. The life expectancy for men in the USA is 73 and that is dropping. If you're gonna criticise others, stop peddling myths first.

[@BreatheManually]

@@ToonsGoofyMemesJust curious do you also happen to know their diet as well? Significantly more or less meat than the current average American. What kind of meats?

[@ToonsGoofyMemes]

@BreatheManually Honestly, the truth is you can live long on any unprocessed whole food diet. It's not clear what the general population ate, but the average person did not each as much meat. Athletes and richer individuals ate more meat, particularly pork/ boar or beef. Grains and olive oil was the staples.

[@nancyholcombe8030]

Thank you, Johnny, for this very informative video. I once had a vegan doctor tell me that I was one of the few people who needed to eat red meat at least twice a week! (and you should've seen his wince when he said it!) This was in the 90s when he told me this and it's still crucial to me all these years later! But it's not for everyone and I understand that too. I appreciated you bringing anthropology into the picture. Thing is, our teeth haven't changed much in a long, long time, and they say we are omnivores. We need to eat meat. We now have the luxury of finding out which meat is best for us as individuals. Your teeth also say we must chew our food, not eat like a dog or cat, gulping down chunks of food that our bodies can't process! If you haven't, I hope you cover that factor one day. Understanding it helped me to avoid lots of stomach issues! Many friends of mine who thought they couldn't eat red meat without getting sick have found that the dyes used in its processing and cooking methods were to blame more than the meat itself. Allergies play a huge role here! This is another thing I'd love to see covered one day, as this problem has more to do with how we allow companies to handle what we eat before it gets to us. Why do we think it should be 'that' color? It's amazing how color notions of food got into our heads too and it goes back to ancient times, just like this video did. Thanks again!😊

[@stevenkeeffe9137]

Funny story that pokes fun at your "dog or cat" example: For a few years, I went "Full Carnivore" in an attempt (successfully, mind you) to remedy several health issues. To be clear, it wasn't necessarily carnivore that worked, it was cutting out the things that were harming *ME* in the "Standard American Diet". Anyways, at some point, I learned that very little of the meat we eat makes it to the porcelain throne (if you get my drift) as it is processed by our digestive system long before it makes it that far. To my point: I would cut whole muscle meat (think: steak, roast, etc., not ground or otherwise processed) into pieces just small enough to swallow whole, safely (turns out about a 1" cube, for me) without chewing. The only downside was that I didn't get to enjoy the flavors you really only get while chewing. I probably went off track with all that, but the thought of "gulping down chunks of food that our bodies can't process" brought me here to say what I said. If you're eating meat, and can safely swallow it without choking on it, your body will still process it just fine, especially if it's full of that scary "saturated animal fat" that we're supposed to be afraid of, lol.

[@DDeden]

Ancient humans never had a habit of eating meat in chunks, but instead used obsidian flakes to make ultrathin slices of meat which they hung in strips from branches in bright sun to dry and UV to weaken endoparasites. (Fire replaced sun in the rainy season). This proto-jerky was chewed like gum, not sheared with carnassial shearing molars as canids & felids do.

[@rasputozen]

Gorillas have bigger canines than you and eat only plants. You're just making empty excuses for your convenience.

[@HanaTNT]

I think we all can agree the more ingredients (Especially the ones that we can't pronounce/identify) in the package the more unhealthy it is for us! Whole foods that are unprocessed can be our best options, red meat, eggs, chicken, fish, liver, sea food are all amazing and nutritiously dense food. Same with most vegetables/fruits if you are not allergic or suffer from digestive problems or have autoimmune diseases. Even rice and potatoes get a lot of bad rep but many civilizations thrived on it. It's just about balancing them. Problem is with EXESSIVE Sugar, seed oils, refined carbs like white wheat, extreme high sodium, and the combination of all of them plus meat plus a lot of fat from cheese (AKA the pizza, or the burgers, Lasagna etc...). I tried a lot of vegan meat, it tasted alright, but I just don't know if all these weird processed ingredients are healthy for us on the long term. Plus like I said red meat is king when it comes to nutrients so I definitely don't want to eliminate it! We also cannot ignore all the environmental and animal welfare problems giving our MODERN way of producing meat/poultry/eggs/milk. Most commercial animal products comes from industrial farms that makes the animals live in shitty condition eat shitty food. They don't let the animal go outside or get some light and eat grass like they used too. All this stresses a lot the animals and then we kill it and eat it. This way of farming is not good for all parties. I believe the discussion shouldn't be Vegan VS Meat eaters but it should be how can we have a better system for animal farming. Even if this means that the price of meat would have to increase a little bit its fine. Or we leave it as it is, and still let our environment and animal warfare bear the EXTERNAL COST.

[@mattbeutler2907]

Just came across your channel, tackling some of the biggest questions I've had recently when it comes to health and presented in a great thorough way. Thanks for your research and presentation!

[@toddtheisen8386]

Red meat and processed meat are not the same thing. A steak is healthy and delicious. Freshly ground hamburger is also relatively healthy and nutritious. A McDonalds "hamburger" is garbage, shouldn't even be legal.

[@Horticarter41]

This is a great video and a great channel. Thinking critically has been reducing in popularity in the past few decades and tribalism has been taking its place. This channel is one of the few that insists on not taking anything at face value, and it is giving me a little bit of hope.

[@jpjp3873]

Thanks for making this video! You are helping a lot of people with this. Deprogramming all the misinformation is quite a task.

[@Cpt_Adama]

Love your channel. I like your style of taking complex issues and especially with the "hidden details" and presenting them with bite-sized logic in a simplified format. Awesome job!

[@carlosdominguez3108]

Already subbed to you within minutes, you're great. When I did my undergrad in nutrition before med school, I remember one of my professors said "Never talk about religion, politics, OR nutrition in polite company."

[@DrewLind_]

You're killing it, Johnny! Great job at presenting a topic that many have strong emotional reactions toward. It's great to see your channel grow so much since I began watching your videos.

[@DrunkenHotei]

Yet another banger. Keep 'em coming, man. You're honestly one of my favorite science educators, and I'm no layman.

[@queen-patches233]

i really hate the saying "vote with your dollar"... most people dont have dollars to vote with, leaving only those who do have dollars to be the ones to vote for us, when in most cases they will not vote the same as us because that would, usually, make those dollars they are voting with to go away since it would change the influence of their capital gain

[@fahrenheigh]

"most people dont have dollars to vote with" Except when it comes to buying meat?

[@internetopinion3043]

Dr. Berry has another, newer KZbin channel called OB Farms, where he demonstrates the animal husbandry and land management techniques he uses on his sheep farm.

[@CRneu]

just to be clear, there is basically no evidence to support the claim of "Regenerative" beef or really any meat. Lots of operations have tried it and none have been able to pull it off. It will always come at an environmental expense. It's a pretty simple math problem that the beef industry really likes to misrepresent with words that make consumers feel good. It's all nonsense. This isn't even mentioning the rampant groundwater/waterway contamination from raising meat. Or the myriad of other ways that raising meat, even small operations, damage the environment. Checkout that amazon forest that's being decimated to make way for pasture lands that the brazilian government now allows to be labeled "green beef".

[@VWJR86]

"Ketovore" since Jan 1st, and after being morbidly obese almost my entire life I weighed in at my lowest weight since middle schoole (im 37). Down 83lbs, my gastrointestinal issues are about 90% gone, no longer need a CPAP, I jogged for over a mile without taking a break, which i have never been able to do. I still eat some processed meats like hot dogs, sausage, kielbasa, and Aldi's has these incredible flavored chicken breast patties that I have been eating sparingly. Dropping carbs to under 30g a day, and suage to around 10-15g has been easier than I thought, considering how terrible my diet was and always has been.

[@Classic_Rock_Chick]

Well done! Thanks for your videos, as I can see all the hard work and research that goes into them. Keep up the good work! 👍❤️😊

[@spacedisco612]

Beyond Meat's share price shows that we have not lost anything, peaked at $234 currently worth $5.40 It's not the meat that is the problem, its how we produce it, we have the Great Plains because of herds of animals eating grass, popping the grass and then pushing it into the soil with their hooves, once they eat all the grass they move to the next field with fresh grass and start over. We use manure on crops for a reason! The feed lots in Northern Colorado are so large that when a storm is brewing, the city will smell like manure for a few hours. I've been on a GrassFed ranch in eastern CO and they said when they move their cattle from field to field, that the wildlife comes in after since it is such a healthy environment. Feeding millions of cows and letting them all poop in a small area is extremely toxic for the cattle, the workers, the cities around them and ultimately the consumer

[@markanderson100]

Beyond Meat's share price is irrelevant. What you really want to see is the proliferation of plant-based items. It's pretty clear they've gotten dramatically more popular across the board. You see all the large conglomerates making more plant-based options. Restaurants across the world are adding more plant-based options to their menus. There have never been more substitutes for animal products. Environmentally as well, animal products are exponentially more resource intensive. More and more people are reducing/eliminating animal products for reasons ranging from health, environment, ethical reasons, what have you. The battle is over.

[@spacedisco612]

@@markanderson100 Irrelevant? How? It's IPO was meteoric in 2019 and now the stock price looks like an NFT pump & dump. Their website lies and calls it "Meat" and only explains 5 ingredients, they forgot to mention that its an ultra processed food (I thought those were bad, I try to avoid them). Human's have survived because we eat meat and we have not evolved that much in the last 20 years, we should eat less meat and produce better quality meat, but calling it over is just brainwashing

[@buddhacat422]

I'm a recovering vegetarian (30 years)/vegan (2 years) who saw Game Changers and bought it hook, line and sinker. Initially I went veg in protest of CAFOs (those HORRIBLE confined animal feeding operations), and because I'd read how much healthier a vegetarian lifestyle was. 32 years later my lack of good assimilating protein and the FrankenFoods I consumed as a vegan have crippled my health in many ways, including an autoimmune disease. Four months ago I started eating red meat again; two months ago I went full-on carnivore. My health has improved 100%, I've got more energy than when I was 20, and my autoimmune disease disappeared. And I FEEL so much better. I only buy meat from certified humane farms, grass fed grass finished, and I do my research before purchasing anything. But when all is said and done, recognizing I was a carnivore was the best thing I've ever done for myself.

[@AngieThinks]

Love your channel, humor, and personality! I learned by taking one nutrition class in 2017 I couldn't obtain all necessary nutrients from just plants, I was shocked as I thought I was going to completely give up meat and become vegetarian. That was the moment I knew plant based was not natural. Thanks for having Dr. Berry!

[@777mofo]

Good transparency. Stating biases and conflicts of interest. We need more of this in media.

[@WiseArts]

Great topic. I think all of our food industries are overly profit-driven, at the cost of our health and environment... buuuut, almost all I eat is red meat, butter and eggs for a few years now, and it's the healthiest I've ever been - and I've done years of Mediterranean, paleo and vegan before that. They did not compare. I get my blood tested twice a year and a carnivore-based diet has been a clear winner for my body's hormones and vitamin levels. I feel SO good. I simply cannot subscribe to the "red meat is bad" thing. I hope there will be even more research, and work to improve meat industries/farming.

[@johnchesterfield9726]

Short-term health outcomes don’t always translate to long-term health outcomes. In fact, some of the things that make us feel really good short-term end up being really bad for us long-term. Plus, subjective report is an unreliable guide for determining objective health. We can’t feel plaque slowly building up in our artery walls or whether we are at a 12% increased risk of suffering a heart disease in 30-40 years time.

[@PamelaTheGoodSteward]

It’s your teaching style for me. BALANCED… I appreciate how you elequently weigh both sides of a topic, and explore the nuisances. You never shy away from the nuisances that helps us understand how we draw particular conclusions that ultimately shapes our personal worlds. Oh, and the visuals are cool too. 😎 lol 😂💕

[@CyrinaSwanston]

For reference - I'm vegan, have been for a while, and have no intention of going back to eating meat. I have a family history of certain health problems, and once I went vegan, my doctor noticed my risk markers went down. Your video is focused on nutrition, so I won't argue about the environmental side of veganism. I struggled watching this video because I've seen most of the documentaries mentioned, have read countless sources of information about whole foods plant based diets, and have personally seen what a change in diet could do for me. I also struggled because I understand how the government gets involved with companies that make lots of money - I don't think it's wrong to say that the meat industry brings in a lot more money than the plant based industry. You made really solid arguments about how certain societies were funded by plant based entities - I think the same could be true for meat eating entities. If people who believe that plant based eating is better can conduct research studies, then people who want to keep making money selling meat can also conduct research studies. I would be interested to see a follow-up comparing how the meat industry has marketed/lobbied/advertised, and how that's affected the nutritional recommendations here. It sucks that nutrition is so confusing. There are foundations and companies dedicated to almost every type of diet. Doctors are either confused, or funded, and so not every patient is getting the same information. I've personally had the hardest time trying to figure out what works for me, and I still don't know how that'll look in the long term. The government cares about who gives them the most money, and so their choices and actions and recommendations stem from greed, rather than from a genuine care for us as citizens. Being vegan works for me. I think it could work for my family, too, so I'll keep trying to convince them to make the switch. This video did help to point out the bias in information, though, and make me think a little harder about the information I'm taking in. (I'm currently reading The China Study, so this came at a good time.)

[@pegm5937]

I love that you provide so much information but no definitive conclusion. It's like: here's the info, what do you think. Brilliant. I love it. Thank you ❤

[@hotfood1752]

"Everybody's running, but half of them ain't looking What's going on in the kitchen? But I don't know what's cooking." 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@katpat-rice]

You're doing amazing worth with this video and your channel in general!! I've learned (and unlearned!) so much through your videos

[@XeenimChoorch-nx8wx]

One of the greatest things a man can do in 2024 is raise his own cattle. If only land were… not owned by overseas corporate monopolies

[@armorclasshero2103]

Lol. Most land is owned by domestic corporate monopolies, not foreign ones.

[@GoofyPilled]

overseas? If you're a US citizen I assure you the corporate monopolies you're talking about are domestic

[@XeenimChoorch-nx8wx]

@armorclasshero2103 @@GoofyPilled Oh you sweet, summer children.

[@Window4503]

Wait. You can actually find tubs of animal fat where you shop?? Every grocery store I’ve visited including specialty ones don’t even OFFER animal fat options. Closest I’ve seen is a $9 small container of filtered bacon grease.

[@jackiedelvalle]

In the UK I can get real butter everywhere, lard in most city supermarkets and in the big city supermarkets pretty much every type of animal fat, inc unpasteurised butter. I've been making beef broth and using the fat I take off the top (once it's cooled) to cook with. When I cook red meat in the airfryer, I pour the oil into a bowl afterwards and keep that for cooking too. The price of olive oil has gone through the roof recently here, so it's great to have these even healthier fat sources available as a side product of some other meal. People shouldn't overlook them. 😊

[@CynthiaMcG]

I can get lard by the brick. If your supermarket doesn't carry it, check out a local Mexican supermarket. They're sure to have lard because it's an ingredient for the best tortillas.

[@Seoshinawi]

You can also buy unsalted butter and make ghee or clarified butter from it.

[@caylee3316]

I’m a new subscriber after being recommended your “deleting in 22 hours video”. Just wanted to say that I’m really enjoying your content and humor.

[@lewtenant_k]

You missed the environmental costs of things like cows vs chickens - about 4x as much water is required per kg for beef than for chicken.

[@mariekatherine5238]

My sister cannot eat red meat due to alpha gal tick disease. Her ex has the same problem. Before retiring, they ran and worked for a landscaping company. My sister tried once to eat a small chuck steak. Three hours later, she broke out in hives, started wheezing, self administered an EpiPen and drove to the ER.

[@timothyblazer1749]

Alpha Gal is not a disease. It is a toxicological response to very particular pharmaceuticals. Deep dive...you'll find out.

[@JohnQPublic345]

They can start taking lugols iodine

[@martaaberg3330]

Wonderful video. They healthiest I've been is when I stick to a keto diet that includes a lot of red meat. I've gotten myself completely off insulin, and gotten my triglycerides to lower by 2/3s. I try to stick to ethically sourced meats and much as possible.

[@carlosbedoya6012]

What does ethical meat sound like to you?

[@sparrowt4082]

He listened! He listened!

[@rachelhayhurst-mason7846]

I've had diagnosed thyroid issues for over 20 years. I've also been overweight for 20 years. Was told to cut red meat and eat mainly plant based foods, then developed anemia, vitamin B12 deficiency and chronic pain on top of more weight gain. Needed lots of meds. Been eating keto for 6 weeks now, lost 6kg/13lbs. Anemia and B12 heading to normal, thyroid issues improving, chronic pain decreasing. Think I'm a good example of the wisdom of eating a proper human diet.

[@bluephreakr]

This "Link to Intake Associated with Risk" thing you came up with Johnny, that's good. Now watch as over the next week these same articles no longer use words "Link", "Increase" / "Intake" and "Association" as well diminish the "Risk factor" to work around this new acronym you came up with once the kids start calling such literature "Liar studies".

[@mahh154]

Where I personally sit on the meat eating spectrum: I can't NOT eat meat because of B12 deficiency. Were I to try a vegetarian/vegan diet I'd have to eat A LOT more dark green veggies that'd have B12. And have you had B12 or iron injections?? I hugged that pharmacy wall and begged for mercy.

[@aheumedivirtoXD]

every vegan would run into b12 deficiency if they didn't take it as supplement, yet they take it and deny meat just fine. animals nowadays mostly get b12 supplements themselves anyways and, as far as i know, injections should last resource, as oral tablets are also more efficient

[@denofpigs2575]

Is it a chronic deficiency? Try getting yourself checked for lead exposure. I've heard it increases VitB needs.

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

​@@aheumedivirtoXD Even with supplements people can be deficient. Supplements are not designed to replace real food and the interactions of nutrients in real food is what allows our bodies to utilise them. You cannot isolate one aspect and expect your body to treat it the same way.

[@aheumedivirtoXD]

@@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj oh, wow, thank gawd that seems not to be a problem for my friend who's born vegan, or another who's 70 and vegan for 20 years. in fact, for these 10 years i've been vegan, my health just improves more and more, is that a side effect?

[@contentsdiffer5958]

@@aheumedivirtoXD So your friend rolled right out of his/her mother and said: "naw, none of that tit juice for me. Get me some vegetable juice."

[@ImagineWrong]

Love this. I've asking for a while for someone from the carnivore camp to respond to videos from Plant Chompers, but to no avail. I lean more meat heavy in my diet but that is the most convincing (and well researched) plant-based channel I've found. Would you be up for fhe challenge?? Regards from Philadelphia

[@datagroup1911]

Plant chompers may be biased (as a WFPB himself), but his videos are well documented and based on the most solid scientific evidence, so it would be really hard to contradict.

[@ImagineWrong]

@@datagroup1911 exactly. This channel seems seems equipt to have a good debate

[@michellegiacalone1079]

PPS: A lot of these 'fake meats' are based on wheat gluten, which itself is problematic, to say the least.

[@phoenixbyrd79]

It's amazing how after hundreds of thousands of years and various hominid species developing tools specifically for obtaining and processing meat leading to the evolution of our species that now suddenly meat is bad.

[@CRneu]

lots of new research shows that our ancestor's diets were likely at least 75% plants. It varies based on which culture we're looking at but now that the muzzle is off there is more and more evidence coming out to show the "meat eating ancestor" idea is most likely myth.

[@SWNJim]

I was already a proponent of meat, but I have to say that this is some of the best scientific literacy that I’ve seen packed into a video. I especially appreciate the part that covered absolute vs relative risk because many scientific reporters routinely mix these up.

[@ManBearPiglet]

27:00 L.I.A.R Four words indicating observational (weak) evidence being used to generate scaremongering media headlines: Link Increased Associated Risk Seriously guys, become aware of these headlines and be skeptical of all these studies, they are literally written every day like the media/academia complex has a duty to spread as much anxiety as possible.

[@denofpigs2575]

Because they DO have a duty to spread anxiety. Its not just your imagination. Thats why the media industry has conglomerated and essentially become an oligopoly.

[@N7eptune]

I am resurrected after ten months of a carnivore regimen and trust me my past includes most dietary variations simply to be healthy, i.e. vegetarian, raw vegan, Paleo, whole foods, food combining, sequential eating, D'Adamo eat for your type, and Ekadashi fasting. So now I still use some of these strategies but have one meal per day (OMAD) consisting of beef or lamb or seafood, eggs, butter, and dripping. 😊 Lately I have been heating up 250g of unsalted butter, 60g dripping, and a little spring water and then add in 9 eggs that have been beaten first. Continuing to heat until it is cooked to a desired level. The options to cook meat varies between cooking in dripping or air frying or steaming. Additionally, a little Celtic sea salt is added to my morning hydration of spring water. The simplest way to explain a carnivore regimen is that you are replacing carbohydrates with with fat. Just think for a minute about what are the purity controls on cotton plants? Yes cotton because the local takeaway uses cotton seed oil for their cooking! 😮

[@loriwyoming835]

I'll throw my hat in the ring without finishing the video. I reversed my type 2 diabetes by doing carnivore for 60 days with no meds.

[@Veroweithofer]

Probably because you reduced carbohydrates / sugar

[@loriwyoming835]

@@Veroweithofer Yep.

[@garyalice1651]

Amen!

[@Jakuzziful]

I clicked on the thumbnail and thought this is a follow up from the channel „What I‘ve learned“ 😄 Great video and openness about the background

[@jds1275]

Great video. It always strikes me as odd that there is a notable dearth in real studies in meat eating that remove other "foods" from one of the groups to get an accurate measure of whether its meat causing the problems, the other foods causing the problems or the interaction between other foods and meat that causes problems. I really think we need a large study where we have a multiple groups with different diets. With at least 3 of the groups being carnivore/keto.

[@DoobieKeebler28]

I prefer red meat, particularly beef, as does my whole family. It is our primary source of meat/protein.

[@xg2513]

Before I watch I just wanna type out a hypothesis that I have had for a while, which is that I firmly believe part of the "red meat bad" scare is because when most Americans consume red meat, its the blended chemical treated sludge patties at fast food places. I just cannot imagine someone becoming obese and getting diabetes or heart disease from eating a high quality steak with veggies and fruits multiple times a week. Like I think these studies leave out WHAT the red meat is.

[@rick_b8s]

Johnny you crack me up. " the thing about animal food is that it will run from you" hehehe hehehe ayup

[@BarryDylan111]

Amazing video! I always tell others it's quantity over quality. First step is to not starve and eat worse meat. But once you can focus on quality then definetly buy the expensive meat. As well as the worst meat is still better than the best vegetables for protein, protein absorption quality, b vitamins and some minerals.

[@VerdictRequired]

Thank you for the analysis and message. We are dangerously close to increasing taxation on animal based food production and relaxing taxation on plant-based food production. That's not what humanity needs.

[@aick]

This channel needs more subscribers, you're awesome at presenting and your content is brilliant.

[@Raja-bz4yw]

My issue with meat is the meat farm industry...it used to be better and more friendly towards ranchers and family friendly farmers. But now it's not...the industry feds these animals diets they don't eat and it has led to health issues. Just as an example the WHO organization has been repeatedly trying to get the US to stop giving their animals antibiotics because it's contributing to the problem of making humans antibiotic resistant. It's making it harder for doctors to treat infections and other conditions with antibiotics cuz of this. And it's kinda why many countries and other reasons why they don't accept meat from the US. I've been cutting down on the amount of meat I eat personally. I love the diversity of food I'm getting now.

[@theseculargamer3339]

I agree with this. Between animal welfare as well as how the animals are fed, it isn't always a matter of nutritional health. Balanced meat consumption with other foods as well as trying to purchase ethical options is still the best way to go (and that isn't always affordable for the standard city-based household).

[@troyclayton]

I gave up meat in 1991 for environmental reasons. I stand by that decision.

[@iloveseaglass]

Look up Sally Norton Toxic superfoods

[@troyclayton]

@@iloveseaglass Why? I'm an environmentalist, not a health nut. edit: I did read a blurb with her going off on oxalates, and I frequently pick and eat wood sorrel (from the genus Oxalis). It's quite tasty. I also chew plants that contain methyl salicylate, they taste good too. But, they're both far less dangerous to my health than driving my car. Sorry.

[@armorclasshero2103]

Meat is less bad for the environment than the house you live in.

[@troyclayton]

@@armorclasshero2103 Are you suggesting I should live in a meat house? Or eat meat, not houses?

[@armorclasshero2103]

@@troyclayton Only the purposely obtuse and intentional bad actors would have that takeaway from my statement.

[@TheAcesShow]

Perfect blend of conedy and knowledge, with an excellent pacibg. Even for one of your longer videos (that I've watched) it doesnt lag on. Great job!

[@davidhartding800]

If you have a Costco membership, A boneless New Zealand Lamb Leg is $5 a pound and is Grass fed. That's cheaper than the grain fed beef there. PS fellow native Chicagoian here! Thank you for what you're doing and keep up the good work!