The CONVERSATION | John Waters

Immaculata Productions proudly presents 'The CONVERSATION' with Fr. Brendan Kilcoyne and Irish Columnist and Author, John Waters.
The two examine the current state of Catholicism and Irish culture, and ruminate over the 1916 uprising, Pearse, and DeValera. John expresses his struggle and sacrifice through his battle with and conquering alcoholism; what character rock 'n' roll portrays in Christianity and leadership; artificial intelligence and smart cities; the loss of self, and, ultimately, belief in Christ.
"If you're not in contact with God, you're missing the most fundamental part of your structure."
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[@bernardgallagher7925]

I met & spoke to John Waters yesterday in a town in Ireland. A complete gentleman, he loves his country and he cares deeply about his fellow countrymen. I have to say he lifted my spirits. There is hope. Thank you John, keep up the good fight.

[@VirgoBirrane]

John Waters is Ireland's most under estimated intellectual and character

[@rachelmacgowan86]

He's sidelined, not underestimated.

[@margaretoneill4801]

John is a brilliant speaker and loves his country.

[@paulmccaughey8788]

An articulate man and a true patriot.

[@Dubtenor]

Wonderful, John waters is a national treasure

[@pinkpoodlepaloma]

He's one in a million. He is the only one speaking up for us. Look for his interviews with Computing Forever and others on Bitchute.com

[@Dubtenor]

@@pinkpoodlepaloma thanks Fionnuala, I think I’ve seen almost every interview he’s done on most of the Irish channels on and off KZbin. I envy his bravery, sticking your head over the wall in this day and age is not for the feint of heart

[@pinkpoodlepaloma]

@@Dubtenor I listen to them over and over and I learn something new every time. We are entering very dangerous water and we need people like John

[@pietvast4355]

International if you don't mind. Groeten en al het beste uit Nederland.

[@ladylaois8184]

He really is

[@ginabideau3748]

Thank you John for this. I live in the north of Ireland on the border with Co Donegal where my mother and her generations came from and who are buried there . I was born in 1950 and became a teenager in the late 60s. I'm a Catholic and I thank God for my mother who was not overly holy . but she had this great faith in Christ ,almost like a child. I thank God for the convent school I attended and our nuns and teachers. I'm 71 now and thank Christ I can see what is happening in the whole of my country. My children who are in their 40s and late 30s don't want to hear what I am telling them . Co Galway ,Lough Corrib is were my family and I spent so many happy times for many tears until 2020. The lough was my peace with my husband and our family and the wonderful people of Oughterard . I love Ireland and very close to Derry we have the beautiful Inch Island in Co Donegal and the wonderful wild life there where my hubby and I have taken so many photos . I can look out of my garden in Derry and see Inch top,I can see the majestic Muchish mountain. I can see the sunset from Inch Castle on Inch Island when I'm aloud down there. I love my country as do my husband whose English of 50yrs as do my children and grandchildren. It's love John,love of our country and it's unique people,the absolute beauty of our land and the thousands of people who perished and died for us,they rest in our soil . In the past number of years even though I marched for civil rights in Derry and lived through 'The Troubles'and Bloody Sunday,I have not found one party who I could vote for. I voted for Brexit because I know what the E.U. are. I just thank God I have my faith,it's not perfect yet but I am getting their I hope.

[@solaris6070]

I voted Brexit too so that countries could take back their sovereignty. Just left my daughter with a couple of friends and they are going on the 5 mile walk that passes over the bridge in Inch and back via the stone Causeway to the Grianan side of the water.

[@Boatman607]

​@solaris6070 I am confused. You voted for Brexit, live on a Monarchy, with a tory government, have an assembly that refuses to meet,.....and you wanted to take back sovereignty......

[@gx2music]

When a 3 hour podcast turns into a 12 hour one. Cos you keep hitting the rewind every few minutes to let a few sentences sink in.

[@annmariecostello7273]

Ditto 😂..gid bless you John Waters you're one of the most beautiful Irish citizens there is and I will be praying for you and Gemma o Doherty more now as together ye give me hope for Ireland..and keep me buoyed up. Than you Fr Kilkoyne for all that you do and for giving us Irish an alternative to the wonderful American social media podcasters..I love radió Maria for this very reason..I can relate more. God bless you Father.

[@ronanmcgregor7230]

A man who has by his own admission overcome his personal demons, and a man with more morals and ethics in one fingernail than the whole cabinet of Leinster house. I hope this man runs for government and while he may not ask for it our small country needs it, and all people like him to run as independents to break the generational curse of this Uniparty System that they hoodwink the nation time and again with in Ireland.

[@Max1ize]

Brilliant conversation with John

[@chookiechooks]

We are starving. Such conversations as this feed and sustain us.

[@angelicopress370]

Wonderful conversation. Thank you.

[@wendyslittleprogram3984]

I’m giving this a like before I’ve even watched it

[@pinkpoodlepaloma]

Me too, and I shared it to Richie Allen and everywhere I could

[@prowrestlingdefined]

I did too 😂 great channel name brother Papa is my favourite Charles Wright gimmick

[@ladylaois8184]

And me

[@josefdenis3799]

Fact

[@foodfordudes]

Me too

[@josephinemurphy6443]

THANKS FR. BRENDAN, THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN GOLD!

[@luxtenebris7246]

Fantastic conversation, thank you very much to both participants.

[@jstone247]

The Catholic Church has never accepted the disastrous role it has played in the negative social impacts in Ireland. The brutal brothers, priests and nuns who made it their duty to mentally and physically abuse their charges. The Churches influence on the political fabric of Ireland in previous times, resulted in corruption and injustice. The Magdalene laundries, the buried newborns, the sexual battery of defenceless children should never be conveniently forgotten.

[@stiofanmccumascaigh7758]

The word Taoiseach means cheiftan. To be the chieftan, you must be considered wise by your tribe. John, you have wisdom in spades. You should be Taoiseach! We haven't had one in a long long time. 🇮🇪

[@robertryan2542]

John made a brilliant point on the need we have to kneel in prayer. My grandfather while dying in the 80s, insisted on trying to kneel on his bed, he was too weak to kneel on the ground. He maintained that if the Queen of Heaven was coming to hear him , he at least had to go on his knees for Her. God bless those that went before us.

[@hawthornetree646]

Which is why it’s so screwy that people think keeling for a flag is protest! It’s the opposite!

[@katrinagiovanni891]

God bless your grandfather and the example he set for you to share . 🙏🙏

[@robertryan2542]

@@katrinagiovanni891 Thank you Katrina, l hope you had a most blessed Christmas.

[@sandyb6668]

What a wonderful conversation. Thank you both.

[@HB-iq6bl]

Hello from New Zealand 2024.my grand mother migrated from county cork.1890. She came with her husband Ted .Ted worked on the NZ west coast coal mines, a union man. All catholic.

[@nmcgiv546]

John Water a great man of Éire🙏💞🇮🇪

[@walchamen8876]

3 hrs of brilliance. Viva Catolica Ireland.

[@frankielavelle2864]

A selfless, honest, trustworthy man.

[@harryw2903]

A conversation of serious quality.

[@jacquitaaffe7104]

A wonderful conversation’ I loved it!! ❤️

[@cangeljan12]

Every Sunday morning at Harrington St Church Sth Circular Rd there's a few Latin masses.... Very special & packed.. 🙏

[@marywoolley3329]

I returned from the 9am Mass in Harrington Street an hour ago. I started to attend after lockdown and I've found my spiritual home.

[@sunny2shoes]

Wow.we have Latin Mass in Kildare on the last Sunday every month..what time is it at in Dublin.?

[@marywoolley3329]

@@sunny2shoes 9AM , 10AM and 11AM.

[@gx2music]

Sorry for the comment bombing. Honestly one of the best chats I’ve ever heard. 👍🏻🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@stevec1192]

2 years later - I feel the same and I’m not halfway through!

[@cocobean7519]

I could listen to John all night! He speaks my language. He speaks my truth. He’s a wonderful articulate intelligent raconteur. Everything he says resonates. Great stuff, thank you Fr.🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Baloooooooze]

Welsh/Irish boy here... That was beautiful to experience & easily the best 3 hours I've spent on YT in many a moon... Diolch !!!

[@marynadononeill]

Best thing on the internet!

[@richardkelly419]

a great conversation thanks men , my way of describing my Irishness is that i feel my soul is tied to this land .

[@josephodwyer138]

To both John and Fr - thank you

[@petermoloney5049]

Just returned for another listen to this fantastic conversation. Who else arrived here at 665 likes?

[@emmachristian7992]

🙋🏼‍♀️

[@mikeyreilly6668]

John is right. Something needs to change in Ireland because we need our children to know and experience the comfort that comes from God alone. Only He can comfort us on the dark days that can ache our weary hearts..... illness, worry, rejection, bereavement, conflict, etc. Even when you are all alone, you are never alone....He loves you. Money, fame, accolades and popularity are empty treasures that modern society teaches our youth will bring them happiness....but when we suffer the pains of life, (which will come to us all) no joy or protection can come from these things. As you sit alone in your worry and pain, only God can hold you tight. Thanks Immaculata Productions.

[@gx2music]

Absolutely amazing and DEEP conversation. Took a lot away from it. Waters is a national treasure.

[@mikeyk212]

Fascinating man John. Massive intelligence . His reference points are unreal, philosophers, poets , writers , rock stars , politicians , scientists , old people in rambling houses and their wisdom and sense of fun and he can weave them all in effortlessly to make a point. David Bowie, Paddy Kavanagh , Dev , Bob Dylan , Pope Benedict, Pearse , Van Morrison. His views on Dev are spot in. The importance of his constitution which I think is all about valuing the human being and a person's integrity and rights. Sadly we are on a road now of tearing it apart . Same with Dev' s speech in 1943. John's description of nursing homes heart breaking as well. Compelling interview all round.

[@martinamccabe3616]

This man is made of strong stuff a soul and spirit the rest is just all window dressing, He's had it all an been thru it all, but knws what it's all abt. A man of all Times.

[@jennifersanders2456]

I so enjoyed this episode. My Nan was from Kildare and I loved it there. Your accents brought me great comfort 😘🙏🏻

[@nightshift4587]

Thank you immaculata and Father Brendan and John Waters.

[@cangeljan12]

Love John he has a beautiful ❤️

[@mikeyk212]

He's a good man, John. A courageous man. Great interview By Fr Brendan. Listens and let's John talk

[@muskerrytram6453]

John Waters is a national treasure. Plaudits to both parties. When they started describing that Jesus may be a cranky so and so with high standards if he appeared today, Roy Keane sprand to mind.

[@Xtramedium1961]

A perfect way to spend an afternoon in my back garden, thank you so much lads

[@gx2music]

Probably the only KZbin vid where I was constantly hitting rewind a few minutes , just to let the things being said actually sink in. Absolute tour de force of an interview.

[@MsSmcn]

Compelling listening. There's a lot to be said for telling it like it is. Thank you Immaculata Productions and John Waters, keep up the good fight.

[@lucy6422]

Thoroughly enjoyed this conversation even though I'm not Irish. As an Australian Catholic I owe a lot to the Irish who first brought the faith to this country. They are barely visible in the Church now but I hope and pray for a great revival of that once Catholic country's faith. Frank Duff pray for us!

[@martinmcdermot8731]

Absolutely brilliant interview. Lots to reflect on.

[@OHolden72]

A brilliant conversation. Thank you!

[@Onlinesully]

a few random comments from me … he touches subjects here that he is fearful of, subjects that terrify me…crèches, nursing homes, alcoholism, being cast aside, and more when John talks about going around with his father, and stopping in peoples workshops, where he’d sit and listen for long periods of time whilst work stopped whilst the men chatted … It sounds so lovely … I saw some of this too…. Wandering with my dad and also my uncle who is a mechanic and we stopped at workshops of his friends where they sometimes talked for hours, often very late at night … it was quite something Also my grandad was a farmer, and he would go for a ramble some evenings, which meant stopping at a farmhouse here and there for tea and talk … around 1.00 hour … that’s so awfully sad how the teacher isolated a group of people and effectively cast them aside

[@cangeljan12]

Lovely to see this priest looking like a priest..

[@Michael-yt1qb]

Absolutely!

[@katiemorgan3529]

Wow! This is the best conversation ever. Thank you Immaculata productions for once again bringing us high quality and something truly worth watching. We all really enjoyed that. Forward in Christ.

[@pinkpoodlepaloma]

He should be made President of Ireland

[@tommercury3349]

@@pinkpoodlepaloma no not yet, we need him on the streets

[@gx2music]

1:15:26 he’s utterly bang on. Anytime I’m back in my native Cork , the humour between us is staggering. Might be only 30 seconds in a shop , but the comedic interaction is just so natural. You’ve connected with your home.

[@zita-lein]

First time to hear John Waters. So impressed. Thank you for this long-form interview. Brilliant!

[@michaelcallaghan3070]

I've watched this interview more than a few times. Absolutely brilliant! 👍😎

[@paulmccarney6080]

Really enjoyed that. God bless the pair of you,

[@carolynboyce8926]

Thank you for this wonderful conversation.

[@lewisest2528]

There's two people I could listen to all day and never get bored. David Icke & John waters

[@ivorfaulkner4768]

David Icke ? Are you serious?

[@andrealewis3638]

Thank you, great interview.

[@paddyearly]

Wonderful interview✅🇮🇪 Fr. Brendan is a great interviewer as he lets his guest speak✅ I am the same age as John and I can relate to all he speaks about except he is so much more calm and articulate✅ John is a great witness to the crazy times that have lived through in Ireland and which have destroyed so much of huge value😭 As Solzhenitsyn says Man has forgotten God😭 But it also comes to each person that they will have to face the reality of God✅ God is in charge and all will have to come to know God🙏 We cannot exist even for a moment because God is breathing us and pumping the blood around our body so it’s time to face death because it’s inescapable and unavoidable🙏 Glory to God🙏

[@DL305]

Thank you for this.

[@eileen7254]

Thoroughly enjoyed this chat between kindred spirits. So much to reflect on, thank you to all involved keep up the great work 🙏🏻

[@GerryKirwan]

Incredible interview so much information here. Just love that line "we are virtually all ignorance, humility is the correct disposition for such a being." You could have gone on for another 3 hours.

[@gx2music]

2:07:57 on rediscovering your Catholic faith. I’m on that journey too. And there’s loads more like me. And yes “Irish Catholicism” is a thing. Totally. It’s who we are.

[@MsHburnett]

This is the narrative of our generation

[@patrickfarrell5092]

Me too, the voice of reason. Looking forward to it. Have to say I don't recognise anything I knew of Ireland since I came home, it's beyond sadness.

[@adagietto2523]

Looking across from the other side of the Irish Channel, it is so sad to see Ireland losing so much of its distinctive character (and even moral foundations in some respects), to become an identikit 'modern' European country; Waters is really impressive as always.

[@mickthepaddy6247]

Great interview

[@BarryHawk]

De Dannan is like this interview, transcendent. Thank you both.

[@pinkpoodlepaloma]

Thank you very very much Fr Brendan. That was well worth waiting for. I listened to one half yesterday and the other today and I will revisit over and over. There is just so much here and its all powerful stuff. I think the version I got was a bit longer. It was on John's own website. I hope you will get him back in the future and talk about this covid nonsense that we are in but you might have to put it on another platform. It would be handy if you could get a techy person to break it up for easy digestion and to better let it sink in. I listen to all John's interviews past and present, words of wisdom in every one. He is the true father of our country. I'd like to see him President of Ireland. Thanks again

[@imeldatobin7243]

Exactly my thoughts. I would love to be able to transfer this conversation to a recorder, where I could listen to it on walks etc. Pause and rewind. So much to be absorbed. Compared to the so called leaders of this country, John Waters is a giant. I forive him for losing his cool when he made the not to popular comments about Varadkar who is a plague to Ireland.

[@imeldatobin7243]

excuse typos "forgive/ too popular"

[@imeldatobin7243]

I would not carry a smartphone. it's akin to carrying a loaded gun imo but I will get help to transfer this interview to a less threatening mobile "machine"

[@jamescollinsireland8629]

Great conversation.

[@mzhavisham6738]

Excellent Interview!

[@rvjcallanan]

A tour de force! And what a brilliant channel! Kudos to both Fr Brendan and John. Three magnificent hours of wide-ranging conversation. Like bumping into good company on a long train ride, time sure goes fast when you're so engrossed. As far as "Irish Catholicism" is concerned, whether we like it or not, we live in a connected world. That doesn't mean that we cannot give our Faith a local dimension. It doesn't mean that we have to play to the tune of the globalists. But, in this day and age, the concept of "Irish" Catholicism is akin to "Cork" or "Kerry" Catholicism a century ago. The Chartres Pilgrimage, which draws young and old from many countries including Ireland, offers a clue to the rebirth of the Faith. It is obvious by now that the "organised church", from the top down, has succumbed to the Forces of Evil. However, there is still a small but sufficient quotient of clergy and lay people who are equipped to carry the torch through these troubled times. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2KbimV4rJllsK8

[@thecatholicman]

Very moving to hear him talk about the Asperges Rite in the Traditional Latin Mass. Never saw this in the new mass that often, but is very frequent in Latin Mass Chapels. Lots of Catholics now returning to the Traditional Latin mass.

[@imeldatobin7243]

I removed myself from the Novus Ordo Missae 25 years ago. My son, who served Mass until he was in his teens has lost his Faith. My only consolation is, when, like John Waters, he comes to his senses, he will know where to go. Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.

[@Beanbag777]

Asperges is a beautiful and joyous element . The orthodox literally splash the congregation 😅. Fantastic start to the liturgy

[@simonsays6905]

@@imeldatobin7243 Your son got a good foundation in the faith in his childhood. This will always stand to him.

[@imeldatobin7243]

@@simonsays6905 Please God! I don't believe ha lst his Faith. I think he lost courage to practice It.

[@pietvast4355]

Groeten uit Nederland. John Waters is a GREAT MAN. Even getting better by the day. It takes a lot of courage to speak out on what's going on, like he does.

[@dco1929]

Great interview and video

[@gx2music]

1:30:20 The chat about Pearse. Totally bang on. Pearse was something else. I won’t say he was delivered from God , but he’s as close to George Washington in terms of the founding of our Republic.

[@naradaian]

Brilliance

[@wapitude]

See these: 😪😪😪😪? They represent JOY. They represent precisely how I felt at "the deep hearts core" (W.B Yeats), upon listening attentively to these two blessed men. With people like these among us there is hope. God bless them both in their respective missions in life. - 💖👏👏👏👏👏👏💖👆

[@Corolla97ww]

Great chat

[@brendantannam499]

That was a delightful conversation. John articulates so many things that I disagree with in a very engaging way. The priest has a keen mind too. I loved the idea of 'yeah, but what's your name?' that came up twice in the conversation. It seemed to mean 'stop talking in abstractions and bring your whole self into the issue'. If it's not already an expression, I think it should be.

[@thood1027]

Logos Rising!!!

[@hawthornetree646]

To close out the mystery, dominion over reality. Yes.

[@MsHburnett]

Ideas for bishops restore the communion rails

[@aloyalcatholic5785]

great conversation. God bless

[@dbf360]

Can anyone in ireland read,think,speak,and write as well as JW?

[@willpeony5534]

Loads of very smart people - but they keep it to themselves.

[@willpeony5534]

@@EireAbu I doubt it too, this global scam has been a great calling out of all those smart and esteemed people who smirk their way through life. Where are they now ? I gave them far too much benefit of the doubt for far too many years.

[@pinkpoodlepaloma]

He's the only one who has the courage to stand up and say it as it is

[@Meghanslappy]

Don't forget Gemma

[@willpeony5534]

@@Meghanslappy They're a great team, they complement each other. Frankly, we're lucky to have them, I dread the thought of the compliant public without someone to stand up. (Personally I don't love Ireland enough to take all that flak.)

[@prowrestlingdefined]

Absolutely fantastic interview two great thinkers and men of God, Would love to see you interview John Lennox

[@sunny2shoes]

Great man-John !God bless him.

[@thood1027]

St Michael on his left shoulder?

[@ImmaculataProductions]

You noticed! 😊

[@veronicaevans8134]

"Defend us in battle."

[@hawthornetree646]

Popular music as a vehicle to present the sacred: on the one hand, God can use unlikely ways to reach people, to awaken them to the mystery of the Faith. So I suppose he could use the likes of Lennon, although Lennon was explicitly anti Christian, to help bring people to Him, although I can’t listen to him myself. But there is also the simplicity,in a sense, to Christianity…it’s just as Jesus tells us, a concrete reality, present in everyday life, more present in the mundane than an artiste in stage softly praying the Our Father so that everyone can stand in wonder. You know what I’m saying… the mystery itself is in the concrete real simplicity of everyday life. God doesn’t seem to care much for our grandiosity… but I’m not saying there’s no room for poetry, and I recognize the mystery of the Faith along with its concrete simplicity. Both, And… By the way, I love Zach Williams.

[@robertmuncaster3510]

Englishness is being lost too, you know how they say British muslims, never English muslims, and the Scots and Welsh would only eschew British, but if we call ourselves English we’re far right, and the ordinary English too are ruled by their rulers, and duped.

[@frankdooley6451]

Remember with all its faults England is without a doubt the greatest nation mankind ever created, just think about what they gifted to mankind. Now it's all demonized by the enemies of freedom and our way of life even by many of those who flock there from all over world seeking freedom and security.

[@raydmurphy]

I watched this both before and after Waters came off with the race-related comment regarding Varadkar. Putting that aside I thought it was a great conversation between people genuinely concerned for the direction of Ireland. There were some salient points made and hard to think back over them to comment on them all, but I was really disappointed with the state of things especially when in reference to the North, or at least Northern Catholics. I understand how we can all be disconnected from our rich history, having been brought up in the North with a lack-lustre religion that went 'folk guitar & Kumbaya', preferring to uproot its marble pulpits and traditional sense of beauty. But to completely renounce our own significance with regard to Irish & European Catholicism? The relationship with Patrick, Colmcille, and Armagh to begin with, tell of something really deep and significant for Ulster Catholicism especially. Have a walk around the abbey in Bangor and you'll find lists of major saints that all went through that space. The abbey itself was a major centre of learning for much of Europe. But I suppose it's par for the course for Ulster Catholics to drop anything that has them at the centre of the narrative or story. Told for decades to turn the other cheek, and not be allowed to aspire, disconnected from the inspiration of the land around them, merely to survive the Troubles and then wake up in a globalised cesspit, only to look to Dublin which has no history of giving the slightest bit of interest about them. How we get beyond this point is by getting more than the story of Christ from the Ulster Church, but an understanding of how we helped form it. That it is of us and our people had something to do in its construction. The Church has dropped the ball here. Irish Catholicism is not merely the Roman Church but with funny English accents. People need to be reconnected to their own history and how they pioneered the Church in Ireland then into Scotland and England before arriving in Europe. It needs that depth! Irish Catholics need only drop over to Belgium and they could start a pilgrimage to all the monasteries and churches that Irish saints began. They even started towns, and are well respected by the devout over there. It's only in Ireland that we are utterly lacking of any knowledge of our own saints. Why does the Church not begin there? With our history, and our contribution? Remind us who we are again! Let us own the Church again and be part of its long history. It's our inheritance and we need to be told that. Engage Irish language, for without it we are just empty English-speaking vessels of any narrative that comes in from overseas, and never in full control of our agency. Here's my best solid advice: 'Dúchas agus Creideamh in Éirinn' by Father Donnchadh Ó Floinn.

[@marianlindsay1737]

Good talk, I am John's age.

[@gerardmccarthy3783]

I just noticed this extraordinary interview was from 2 years ago, has there been a follow up, if not, can we have one please. 🙏

[@c_mccamley]

Re: Irish Catholicism and the younger generation. They are not being dismissive of an Irish way of doing catholicism, the are suspicious of institutional Irish Catholicism, as overall it can appear weak and wet. Diocesan catholicism is struggling significantly. It has become very administrative. It mostly no longer appears to be working (in terms of evangelization). The new missionary orders ( those here on mission are doing tremendous, inspirational work), but their international influences highlight the universal nature of catholicism, which is good, but may unintentionally provide further suspicion of an Irish version of Catholicism. The young may also be reacting to the harsh puritanical expression of Irish catholicism which lacked joy and gave us a legacy of mother and baby homes etc. I would not worry too much about an Irish way of doing Catholicism. I think it will sort itself out in time. But I do worry that we are a bit too americanised. In recent years I have heard quite a few young Irish catholics sounding a bit too American for my liking. It is not my way (nothing against Americans, but we are not American). But to a younger generation with excess access to social media, it is inevitable. Young intentional catholics have been significantly influenced by a diet of strong charismatic American catholics. But now that we have Fr B on KZbin and a few other decent Irish catholic commentators, things are definitely on the up!

[@johnpurcell7525]

LADS LADS THE WORLD WE GREW UP IN HAS GONE IT WILL NEVER RETURN AND THE CHURCH WASFIRST ON THE BANDWAGON OF CHANGE

[@gx2music]

1:28:51. We Irish are fanatical about Manchester Utd and Liverpool. Two English football teams. That’s another example. Indeed we are effing romantic.

[@dn1867]

John for President

[@hawthornetree646]

People thinking the same thoughts… see bricks vs stones in Scripture… bricks used to build tower at Babel, Israelites making bricks for Pharoah… humans forced into uniformity… art of conversation is almost lost and I thirst for it. I’m exiled almost.

[@Tombuchaill]

In relation to Ireland never having achieved Independence, I wonder can any nation or ethnic group that has been so demoralised and even the attempted wiping out of these peoples by others, ever become independent. If we are collectively as an ethnic group so traumatised by our past, that trauma becomes our story, and like the traumatised individual has to make many detours and mistakes before finally (if ever) finding his way home. He comes home as a wreck and wounded, and a shadow of what he should have or could have been. I do believe we can't get there without Christian morals and we won't be what we could have or should have been perhaps...but maybe that's ok...as long as we collectively do our best, in Christ. Can we get back to a time before the attempted colonisations, as far back as before the Viking era, and relearn how we did things then and start from there? Brehan Laws could be re introduced instead of Common Law for example, which is the basis of Western jurisdictions but is based in English Law ergos I believe nobody can be free of colonialism without having their own system of law...no matter how similar to Common Law it is...as Common Law is based on Natural Laws given to us by God. I hope I am making myself understood.

[@truthortreason9118]

Orwell's versificator has been churning out music since the 1980s with brit pop.

[@KoalaBear499]

For someone with the software, this needs multiple clipping for widespread dissemination.