The COOLEST LOOKING Spider-Man comic! | Spider-Man: Torment

[@comicpop]

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[@Batwing2011]

Every Wednesday when the world seems bleak, the crew of ComicPop return to the couch and… RISE ABOVE IT ALL! On a more serious note, this episode of Back Issues is a comfort as I recover from Covid.

[@peacerevolver]

Tiffany’s hair is def getting to McFarlane levels of epic. Love it

[@ridge825]

Literally Lion king

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

It's awesome.

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

Love it

[@monstersinthecity]

She looks great! Sal must be happy ;)

[@pay7232]

I am loving the redux episodes. Sal has grown leaps and bounds since these originally were published.

[@Allean_Adkins]

Yeah I need more

[@ParisHughes]

Man the love between Sal and Tiff in this episode surpasses Pete and MJ. I love to see it! 😢❤

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Spider-Man: "I've broken my code. If I kill one person, I will kill that person every time." Batman: "That's not-" Superman: grabs Batman's shoulder, shakes head

[@bZman]

I love how obviously best of friends the whole comic pop crew is that random moments like "i think ben is expertly hitting on sal" can happen in the middle of us all laughing at a retelling of a comic. Really has the feeling of just hanging out with your buds.

[@Grievousish]

Idk if people will agree with me or not but the Mcfarlane spaghetti webs are the best webs

[@odog3964]

Easily

[@odog3964]

Mad addicting to draw too

[@anenemystanduser3539]

Agree

[@obsoleteill9706]

Was that style of webbing in Web of Shadows? I never got to play that game but the traversal looked awesome with those stringy webs

[@mr.goblin6039]

They’re really sick looking. I love the look, too.

[@mercersadlier2488]

Everytime “Rise Above” was said all I could think of was the Spider-man broadway musical and how it had not one, but two songs titled “Rise Above.”

[@LeonardoSilva-xm8ft]

I kinda like the song, to be honest

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

same here

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

Her 1000 yard stares can never not make me laugh.

[@MeSpawn297]

Tiffany describes Todd's artistry like Forge's tech building. He just DOES it by doesn't know how he does it, he just thinks and is compelled. Lol. McFarlane is a mutant confirmed.

[@shanytopper2422]

I hope Ethan is ok with Ben hugging Sal like that...

[@benreilly4347]

The Lizard has never looked more intimidating. For all the criticism the writing gets, one thing that really works is just how much Peter is falling to pieces. The scene when he thinks he's killed Lizard the first time and he's begging forgiveness and clutching his aching head is really powerful.

[@bottlecap7533]

Todd's a great writer when he wants to be lmao

[@Sicod79]

The in depth analysis is just top notch, differentiating between the omniscient narrator and Spider-man's thoughts by shadows, very nice catch!

[@deadpilled2942]

This show is like sitting with my friends, screwing around with comic books

[@mttylerdurden9]

22:59 Neal Adams told Kevin Smith on his podcast that he saw an intern at DC shredding original art because they'd run out of space to store it in their main office.

[@JayDay01]

Oh my soul😢

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

​@@JayDay01 yeah I feel that too

[@Elite-0Zero]

Well, they did say they know how big comic pages of original comic art are. They’re huge, there are thousands produced monthly, shipping costs a lot and the companies have paid for it already. The people making the decisions not to archive were Adams’ era - John Romita Sr, Carmine Infantino et al. Guys who worked in the era of newspaper comics. Of course the situation is better now! Artists email work to Marvel, DC etc, keep the original art and sell to collectors. Must be nice to be paid twice for your work.

[@ericmorgan3981]

It’s the return of Buhh & Tuhh to the couch

[@kevinlevin9651]

Now that's an inside joke I need to look up

[@ericmorgan3981]

@@kevinlevin9651 can’t recall what episode it was but anytime Ben & Tiffany are on the couch that’s what I refer to them as

[@ericmorgan3981]

@@kevinlevin9651 Now I remember it was the Angela Episode

[@kevinlevin9651]

@@ericmorgan3981 oh right

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

13:22 Pretty that Sal, Ben and Tiffany are tiny and holding a regular size book

[@pptemplar5840]

I get Sal's frustration with original art as a fan. Like a Tite Kubo original piece would be almost priceless to me. But as a person who is an artist... I think he overestimates how much we tend to value our own pieces. In between starting and finishing a single piece af art it is entirely likely that I have destroyed 10 or 20 different versions of that same piece, so I guess maybe it's natural that many of us would learn to care less about the condition of what we have already created. I'm just saying, I don't know the guy, but I bet Da Vinci wouldn't have kept the Mona Lisa climate controlled.

[@GreenChillZone]

Steve Ditko used his original art as cutting boards.

[@loganthomas2421]

Todd drawing Hulk: “Kids like muscles” Todd drawing Spider-Man: “Kids like webs” Todd drawing Spawn: “Kids like chains”

[@k0bra3eak40]

Was he wrong though?

[@mahmudmurad4655]

@@k0bra3eak40 Actually no.

[@loganthomas2421]

@@k0bra3eak40 Clearly not since his art helped sell millions of copies

[@leoncommander]

19:51 this gag takes on all the other jokes in this video and dares to....rise above it all 27:33 dance break with Sal? 😂 53:52 my christmas card this year

[@Scororo]

I really do love these redux episodes, especially the button intro lol Hope to see Superior Spider-Man and DKR2 get redux episodes

[@JimmiMiller1]

My brain is telling me we’ve seen this before, but my heart… my heart tells me that we’ll be all the better for it

[@brendanobrien8198]

Tiffany, your wavy hair looks amazing!

[@TheRealZubes]

Thank you!

[@Alllex]

Hearing Tiffany talk about Marvel and DC’s lack of preservation for their original material reminds me a lot of how Toei has handled Dragon Ball. So many key frames, production artworks, and fully painted cels have been tossed into the trash or sold off. It’s so weird.

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

I cannot believe a franchise as ubiquitous and monumental has been mishandled for so long in such absurd ways. The anime side at least is a complete disaster. Sad that's not worth the investment for Toei to rectify that.

[@flashtheshapeshafter]

It's so weird that after all this time till we still has issues with the dragon Ball anime, super notoriously add so many issues and when they were finally getting a decent schedule it ended , and one piece has so many pacing issues

[@dr.balance3377]

Tiffany with the Mcfarlanes MJ hairstyle

[@kevinlevin9651]

Nice catch

[@camerondodge2070]

1:07:25 I've never heard this image of Lizard described that way, despite poking fun at it many times myself, and I just couldn't stop laughing at that. Bravo.

[@captaincomics3626]

I absolutely love the redux episodes because we get new thoughts and feelings on the story or the people who made the story. And I was amazed with how huge that book is.

[@eqs1782]

I watched comic pop to escape my boring work day and rise above it all.

[@daxkiller3604]

54:14 should’ve been the thumbnail 😂

[@jimejarcia]

at 13:52, Ben and us, the audience, finally understand comics basics after 400 billion episodes

[@sherlockhat5677]

Congratulations to your 10th anniversary and greetings from Germany (excuse maybe some rough english). I love your videos and have rewatched some of my favorite episodes around ten times. I love your way of presenting a comic story by not only telling it in a fun way but also giving a lot of context. Sals knowledge and inside into the comicworld will never stop to impress me. You guys brought me back into the hobby of collecting comics by showing me their value again after falling out of them as a teenager a couple of years ago. In the last two year I started to gather a lot of the most seminal Superhero Comics, especially Batman and Spider-Man (still my Favourites after all the years. Stories like Sandman or Saga are now between some of my favourite literature-based stories ever. So Thanks to you and all the great hours of entertainment.

[@chriswimberley7511]

I remember watching you talk about this on a live show for hitting a sub milestone

[@ScarecrOmega]

Just went through this the other day. This is a really dark story for Spider-man, feels more in tone for Batman or Spawn and you could see McFarlane's Spawn starting to hit the page.

[@Noah.Hardy.]

I don't think people appreciate just how good Sal's Todd impression is

[@freack3333]

13:40 "you think that's a book? Now THIS is a book".

[@Cull_Obsidian]

This has to be one of my favourite episodes ever (and I’m including the ones I listened to in an ICU room coming round from a coma) Why? Because this fuses the history, art and story of comics! And it works so well in this episode, just naturally. Re: original art, I believe Marvel had a policy of trying to return original art to the artists if they can? I guess it’s all digital now so they don’t need to, but I did see a video of that somewhere on KZbin. This applies to all artists except Jack Kirby it seems 😅

[@bhunt372]

I got ASM 302 from Mike Zapcic about 10(?)-ish years ago at the Stash in Red Bank. Totally made my day and was my first introduction to Todd’s artwork!

[@daelen.cclark]

One of those stories that’re only remembered because of the covers.

[@WhelmedButReady]

It's always nice to literally be in the middle of watching a Back Issues episode when a new one drops. Perfectly timing👌🏾😁

[@griseldarodriquez2905]

I was literally watching the old episode when the redux came out. Nice. Thank you

[@goldendreamer8578]

Maybe that should’ve been the name of the series “Spider-Man: Rise Above It All”

[@casual_bill8749]

I really want you guys to do an episode on the Hawk&Dove 1988 mini series. I get that no one else is probably thinking that though haha I love you guys!

[@brandolio6880]

Yay! A new Spider-Man video! I’m gonna… RISE ABOVE IT ALL! 😫

[@brandolio6880]

I’m gonna regret commenting that later. Lol

[@MeSpawn297]

I'm impressed that all these years Sal has never decided to just bust out "Eponymous" when describing the adjectiveless book titles.

[@RetroTube1982]

People say the big sales were because of the collector boom, and that may have been a part of it. But as a kid at the time, I really was big into Todd McFarlane and Jim Lee's art on Spider-Man and X-Men. They were the first artists I actually knew by name and could recognize their work. I bought Spider-Man 1 and X-Men 1 as soon as I saw them, not because I was thinking I would resell those later on and get rich, but because I thought the art and the characters were really cool and I wanted to own those comics to keep for myself. If the Avengers or the Fantastic Four had relaunched with a new number 1 in the early '90s, I don't think kid-me would have bothered with those.

[@flywheelshyster]

Whoa! I barely remember the OG back issues, looked it up and it was one of the live ones! ❤ this show!

[@jordantorres2139]

It warms my heart to hear that y’all are fellow soldiers fighting for managed democracy🫡

[@TheRealZubes]

Liberty! 🫡

[@velemamba260]

Whoa, so hearing how much the phrase "Rise above it all" gets repeated in this book makes me think of something. In the Spiderman Musical Turn off the Dark (which I saw on Broadway as a kid) they used "Rise above it" as the obligatory twist on the classic "great power, great responsibility" motto, and it was an important enough phrase that it got a major song and then a redux. I have to imagine this storyline is where they got that from.

[@fcm3d]

Rise above it all!

[@claudioschumi87]

It's one of my favourite covers of Spider-Man, if not THE favourite Spider-Man Torment #1! Todd Mcfarlane's art is truly unique, like every artist you have some not so good art but there are way more iconic pieces to make up for it and Todd definitely has plenty to be remembered. For John Romita Jr and Todd Mcfarlane are the true definition of what Spider-Man should look like in the comics, unfortunately today's art never does.

[@nicksmyth4050]

Why does Peter quietly begging Connors to snap out if it and get him out of there remind me of that but from “Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein”?

[@somebodylucky7092]

Ngl, after maulding it over, I really love the cutscene of a hand just slamming down hard on the redux button. Felt more of a comedic impact kind of tone, IMO.

[@nicholaslahay3569]

Spider-Man: Torment #2 and Wolverine 106 were my first comics I ever bought!

[@raistlinmajere5550]

Im so glad their keeping up the DANCE BREAK's

[@WesJFin]

you guys are a joy to watch. thanks for the smile today!

[@PatLund]

I absolutely love Todd Mcfarlanes art. He is so damn good. Especially when he draws Spider-Man. The giant eyes and the spaghetti webbing. It's so fucking good!

[@architeuthis3476]

I don't have guilty pleasures because I don't feel guilty for the things I like but I am aware of everything wrong with _Torment_ and still like it

[@shreyanshdas7481]

Continuity between sister shows. You were talking about 90's Spider-Man revamp and you brought up the Todd MacFarlane Spider-Man lizard storyline. Nice.

[@Peecamarke]

Hahahaha that redux button part had me 😂😂☠️

[@Jay-Voorhees]

20:41 20:59 loved this entire section made my day thanks. Amazing Videos as usual.

[@hatredlord]

Ok, but now I want to see what McFarlane's Wonder Woman would be like

[@JohnClark-tt2bl]

The lasso would be drawn in insane detail....😂

[@Hulkzilla0]

Wooooo! I'm excited for this! Spider-Man in McFarlane's art, the Lizard on a rampage, Calypso behind it all! I have the Todd Mcfarlane Spider-Man trade paperback and I've been wanting to read it. Gonna do it after this!

[@mylessmith8059]

I am obsessed about the way McFarland draws Spider-Man However every thing else has not aged well When are we getting the Planetary back issues?

[@metalliopleurodon]

I've been rewatching A LOT of Back Issues while at work, and i just want to say. Please make the Mecha Spider a YT Short from the Kraven's last hunt episode. I think that's the funniest shit i've heard in a while.

[@Ducaso]

The spaghetti webs are the webs I think of when I picture Spider-Man web-swinging.

[@kevinlevin9651]

Look at the background Spidey. Fresh as always

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

I want to give a shout to Art Gallery of Hamilton in Ontario CA. Because that's an whole museum of sequential comics from Canadian history. If they can do it, Marvel and DC definitely can.

[@robphoenix1182]

Sal....are you trying to tell us something?!😮😮😮😂😂😂 Talking about the drums made me think of Jumanji.

[@robphoenix1182]

That is NOT my Kraven movie!!!😮 Too soon Sal! 😢

[@robphoenix1182]

Digital art can never replace real comic art. At least to me.

[@jakejupiter5905]

Tiffany's hair look fantastic! its like Todd McFarlane drew it himself

[@panduh_go_crazy-.-9957]

I can get behind “Throwing Chains”

[@DementedDistraction]

Erik Larsen will probably always be my Spider-Man artist of choice, and I always liked how Todd would draw masked characters and monsters, along with how he would compose panels, but I was never a fan of how he drew normal/unmasked people...they usually looked as though they had no bones, were made of Silly Putty, and were in various stages of melting.

[@fragile4408]

Spiderman back issue! On my birthday! Yaaaay!

[@seand7042]

52:10 I'll tell you why Ben: because you NEVER accept death when suffering is owed!!

[@michaelkerr2194]

This is a great video. Thanks for all the hard work!

[@capsjukebox]

I always liked Todd’s layout style too by this period as well as his art. Just wished he could have found a writing partner he would have listened to.

[@orngcreator6115]

Another great episode of comic pop. I really like how you guys both praise and critique these issues. Does a good job of elevating the video from what may seem like a simple summary into becoming an analysis of this moment in time of comic history. Not to mention you guys are just a funny now as you were 10 years ago (and more so). P.S. Hey Sal, not trying to cancel you in any way or anything like that but apparently “peanut gallery” is considered a bit of an insensitive term due to it being used to mock the cheaper theater seats often used by poorer black patrons. So maybe avoid using it as to not get in trouble in the future. Just thought I’d extend the info in case.

[@jameskingman1227]

To be fairJ.M Demattis has said that Kraven’s last hunt, started off as a Batman story, but nobody would pick it up, and the pitch kept bouncing around u til he was writing Spidey. It’s funny how some stories are kinda fluid in writers Brains.

[@Volvagia1927]

Curious what villain it was going to be as a Batman story. Deadshot? Penguin? Cluemaster?

[@zaphero5518]

​@@Volvagia1927Joker, a version of that story actually came out as part of Legendary Dark Knight, Going Sane.

[@jameskingman1227]

@@Volvagia1927 I don’t think there was a specific villain in mind at the time, it was more about Batman is buried alive, though I will reread the foreword in the TPB to confirm.

[@shootermcmeaty]

This was a great episode, Sal! Would you guys ever consider doing a redux of Kraven's Last Hunt?

[@Primaeros]

Ben × Sal shippers:

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

I collect homage covers and have a wall of Spider-Man # 1 homages

[@matthewconlon2388]

I’ve heard it said some writers just tell the same story over and over. I think it would be interesting to look at McFarlane’s run on Spawn, see if there’s a parallel storyline and compare and contrast their execution since they’re years of experience apart.

[@ScarecrOmega]

Would love to see an episode on Usagi Yojimbo, Black Hammer, Swamp Thing Winter Special, and Animal Man(Morrison)

[@teddybeer6206]

I've had those comics for over 15 years and I still never read them...I guess I should get to it lol

[@reggiebrown9508]

Being 10 years old a looking at a big @$$ pic of Kraven with half his head blown off can do things to you.

[@kevinlevin9651]

Just like Tom king went the other way. 2 calamatious fellas

[@ThexVaultxTech]

Oh boy a new McFarlane Spiderman comic!

[@walkerpierce5446]

Man, I can't believe that Tiffany and Ben replaced Sal.

[@Randomaccount9470]

15:45 it's because his voice is muffled under the mask

[@Henderson10666]

WE LOVE BACK ISSUES REDUX!!!!!!!!

[@kevinlevin9651]

What's a REDUX back issue?😮

[@aymaanrashid2033]

My first spider man comic

[@NewPhoneWhoThis52]

Batman Dark Knight Strikes Again Redux please

[@johnnieriot13]

I always hoped they did this one again. I remember watching it on a live anniversary episode if I remember correctly.

[@KConroyBatmanGOAT92]

You should do Scott Snyder's Last Knight On Earth

[@thepagemaster2963]

I dig Tiffany hat

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

that being the image of Spider-man Sal thinks of is soo interesting. thats not at all what I wouldve guessed. its a very uniqe image for sure. I definitely think of Spider-Man on the 90s cartoon logo, or one of Bagleys awesome covers from Ultimate when I think of Spider-Man

[@Mat23]

Great episode.

[@The_Great_Crane]

I remember when I got this book. I loved the art, but I got bored trying to read it

[@dannyboi1065]

ComicPop! I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the broadway show “Spider-man: Turn off the dark” but I can’t help but wonder if the creators of the musical looked at this SPECIFIC comic series. I only say this because there’s an actual number in the musical called “Rise Above”. I don’t know if it’s a stretch but that’s crazy! 😂😂😂

[@WhatIsItAboutThem]

Omg yaaaas keep feeding my new love of Todd McFarlane