The COVID Cover-Up: Searching for Gretchen Anthony | Full Episode

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[@robbierigo4445]

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[@betsyspeer2797]

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[@valentinecharlesworth6278]

The MUSIC, Put me OFF !

[@rochelledizon8586]

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[@ChrystalGreer-ro4ty]

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[@TrimansWife]

For someone to hear another person screaming for help, in distress, and do NOTHING is obscene and a cowards way. Lives can be saved if people only react. We were camping once and heard a couple arguing. Next we heard her screaming for help. We called 911 and the police were there within 3 minutes. He was stabbing and choking her. She lived and I hope, got away from that psychopath that called himself her husband.

[@WideAwakeHuman]

You say that but the VAST majority of people would do the same - people are generally cowards and will act in self preservation if it means ignoring a possibly violent situation

[@jjwoelkers7954]

Totally agree!! I cannot believe the neighbor did nothing!

[@msknucb1762]

I agree...she is an idiot!!! You can remain anonymous. Years ago I called 911 when a neighbor above me was beating his girlfriend. No way I could ignore her screams and crying!😢😢

[@Spartan-Of-Truth]

Nah. People suck.

[@astridvvv9662]

​@@WideAwakeHuman not true, it's a choice to do nothing just as it is a choice to be the one to do something. Make a vow to yourself right now to always be the one to act. I did.

[@sherryhillman9197]

I had a neighbor one time around 1 am screaming. At the time l didn’t know it was her. I called the police to report because l didn’t see anyone but l could hear the screams. Eventually, the Police came. I stepped outside and by that time l could see it was her. She was having some sort of reaction to some medicine. She did get some help. The next day her Dad was so appreciative because it could had gone wrong for her if l hadn’t called for help. We are all here to help one another.

[@Toddboehly818]

Hello 👋 how are you doing today? I hope this year brings happiness, peace and love all over the world 🌎 I’m originally from Canada 🇨🇦 grow up in Fort Worth Texas, currently living in Key West Florida. Where are you from 😊😊if i may ask?😊

[@valeriebramlett6590]

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[@georgewagner7787]

She's from Yura Liar.

[@incurvatus]

​@@georgewagner7787 because nothing ever happens...

[@sharstars69]

Was a

[@ryleenikola5734]

Gretchen was my teacher in NJ before she moved to FL. Middle school. I was devastated to see her photo and story on KZbin last yr. I remember when I was in middle school, she had just gotten her first teaching job. She also was a student teacher for me as well before hand. She was a beautiful, fun but respected teacher among her students. I wish this man, I won't even say his name, never gets out. It says he will be in his 80s, but her daughter will never see her mom. Prayers to her family. I can't say enough about Mrs. Crane (her Maiden name, bc it is NOT Anthony).

[@NFS305]

Curious why she didn’t change it back after the divorce

[@ryleenikola5734]

@NFS305 just saw this... I'm not sure. She was Gretchen Crane and then O'Keefe when married another teacher in our school. They did end up getting divorced so she possibly had already done the whole process once to change her name back to her Maiden name, Crane. Plus I am thinking that bc she has a daughter, she kept it for purposes of having the same last name as her~

[@tetethatsme28]

I was thinking she looked familiar. I'm from NJ, this wasn't from the north jersey area was it?

[@lp6196]

​@@ryleenikola5734That is why my mom didn't change hers back after divorcing my dad. She had been divorced before and had 2 children with first husband and they had a different last name. She said she wanted to go back to her maiden name but didnt want all of us to have different last names.

[@JacquelynRivera930]

@@NFS305Most don't. My mother in law has been divorced for 15 years and still goes by her married name, and he even remarried. She has three children, 2 boys and a girl. The two boys obviously have the same last name and so do three of her grand children. My mother remarried 7 years after my father passed, and she didn't change her last name to her new married name for a few years because of my sister and I. My aunt also still goes by her last husband's name, and she didn't even have children by him.

[@jenniferruth812]

Wow, you hear a blood curdling scream and cant be bothered to call 911? What a terrible person.

[@brandyyolidio4213]

I cannot believe the person who killed her is catching less grief than the person who failed to call 911! To the very end, David avoids responsibility for his crime.

[@MattieVera1910-gv7ds]

My thoughts exactly!

[@alteredcatscyprus]

They would have called only if she had screamed without wearing her mask.

[@mtio2807]

Hilarious

[@Jesus.Bridged.The__Gap]

@@brandyyolidio4213 …She’s just as guilty as the murderer, because she could have stopped it, but she chose to be complacent instead.

[@iDislikeNames]

How can you literally hear someone being brutally murdered and not call the police or do anything. That’s criminal in itself

[@Dj-ps9ex]

I hope that person can’t sleep at night

[@shaylacrittenden]

Bystander Effect, it’s the worst

[@shaaronie]

It depends on where you live. You could be labeled a snitch if you live in a bad neighborhood. You call the police and the police will come to YOUR door in sight of the criminals for details. The court papers then name you as a witness with your private information revealed. The police will offer you no protection and the criminals know this. A lot of criminals believe that dead people tell no tales. We need better policing period!

[@alicemaritime9138]

Maybe she thought someone else would call the police, or she feared reprimand from a killer, or being afraid to overreact. Better always call to check if everyone is ok. Not sure she’s a cold blooded bystander.

[@lauraschroeder8177]

No doubt. If you are an EMT and see a person passed out and don't help, you get in trouble. WTH wrong with that lady!?

[@tessakai]

This is my friend. She was the lifeguard at our high rise apartment in the early '90's, and she babysit our daughter (who is now 26 years old) when she was attending classes. What a beautiful girl she was and the world is less of a place with Gretchen gone 😥

[@bioshawna]

I'm sorry for your loss 🙏🏻😢❤

[@studio107bgallery4]

So sorry for your friend…..What a beautiful person.

[@giftofthewild6665]

Sorry for your loss 😢

[@wread1982]

That’s crazy

[@America_First07]

So very sorry. We must do better for everyone.

[@kristiebrown5808]

The HUGE amount of survivor's guilt I would have every single day for the rest of my life because I heard a woman scream in fear and pain AND STILL CHOSE NOT TO CALL 911 is enough to haunt me right now...dang...

[@user-qw7kh4ll3d]

Shame on the neighbors for not getting involved !!!

[@segsb7085]

That's not what survivor's guilt is

[@angel2000317]

As soon as the husband/boyfriend is described as "charming," you know how these cases are going to turn out. So terribly sad. May Gretchen's family find peace.

[@saraholloway128]

I mean you're watching a crime doc lol

[@liliivanova2920]

And how he is charming with that horse face…???

[@mtio2807]

No

[@bellabianca4771]

Specially the gym ones who are fascinated with their muscles😂

[@SidewaysInTraffic]

I do believe his covid story. I think that drove a lot of people crazy.

[@melissadwiggins]

I really liked hearing that Kobe was adopted by a loving family. That was a really nice touch that we usually don't get to see! Thank you!

[@mariachilo5223]

Agreed

[@MCP920]

Thank God. He seems so sweet and calm during the chaos.

[@rainiyt5297]

Colby

[@cc-sb1is]

​@Maryclaire pugh YES. I really couldn't beLIEVE how calm Kobe was during the incident at the mall(?) I was seriously thinking, "did this disgusting man DRUG his sweet dog?!" Idk, but I have never seen a "calm" husky haha they are wild af! Kobe is such a good boy. I'm so glad he has a better life now.

[@shweyashweya]

Exactly. Kobe was an innocent doggie.

[@tybussy1912]

I’m just really failing to understand how someone can say they clearly heard a “blood curdling scream” and “a woman screaming help help help me” and just go on about their day. May Gretchen be at peace in her final resting place.

[@goodmorningsundaymorning4533]

That baffles my mind and sends chills up my spine. She even told the press as if it was no big deal. Zero remorse for her inactions. And zero empathy. Cold.

[@kalkidanhailu8563]

​@@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 this is in America isn't everyone like that

[@bwright925]

Why not call the police at the very least? Makes no sense

[@leeprochazka5420]

Kinda scary. Stay strapped. Teach your wife. Teach your children.

[@Lollyk13]

The fact she was ok showing her face on TV while admitting she heard but did nothing! 😐 sickening itself

[@ArtU4All]

Texting “I am on a ventilator” while sick with COVID …..??? Someone did not do their home work to know what sick people on a ventilator CAN do.

[@jessinaespinal8206]

You can text while vented. You can’t text while intubated.

[@marshapieroni6677]

Yea, I can just see someone in an induced coma texting their family

[@jessgunn6639]

Look at how few people were wearing masks in the videos, it shows just how little medical awareness there is in florida, smdh

[@angelapitts2123]

Yeah, and IF she's in hospital for covid, he just leaves town??? Pawns for jewelry??? 🙄🙄

[@yvonnecooper5004]

Right. Never heard of a covid hotline either

[@donyamcashburn5440]

That sorry neighbor. I hope she hears those screams in her dreams for the rest of her life. When you hear those kind of screams, you know someone is dying, and she just went about her day.

[@BrownieKB]

how can someone be apprehensive of calling the police when they hear a woman scream, especially when they’re screaming “no”, “it hurts”, “stop it”???

[@January.]

*apprehensive about calling... Because they live in the U.S. where most people are ignorant and selfish.

[@lisacranmer8005]

I call the cops and DNT care about what anyone says....I hear shootings going on and it was right up the street from me... yepppppp....you can hear it...I just stay low..most people don't know gun fire...or they are with tv or music on..

[@FuelledByCoffeeAndBooks]

i was mad when i heard her said that 😢

[@January.]

@@FuelledByCoffeeAndBooks *I got mad when I heard her say that.

[@barbtries]

thank you. she could have saved a life. i don't get it.

[@tallulahjack913]

As a survivor of domestic abuse, the one time I dared to scream as I was pulled by my hair to the top of the stairs,was the last physical abuse that monster did. Only because I screamed,and a neighbour heard me. And the neighbour acted. Don’t ignore real screaming..we instinctively know a scream of fear and pain. Could have been a different outcome…..neighbour.

[@francesgray3676]

40 this June... And a 2x domestic violence survivor. I screamed out for help in the apts I lived in with the human monster... Someone heard me and called the cops... I think about them and am grateful for them everyday. NEVER HESITATE TO CALL THE POLICE IF YOU BELIEVE SOMEONE'S LIFE IS IN DANGER! YOU MIGHT SAVE A LIFE!!

[@fayecox9401]

I hope you both are doing well so glad your both safe

[@22161]

Pray you both got well in your mind and away from monster's. One thing I try to tell anyone that is trying to leave is NEVER let them know you are leaving and if possible where you have gone.

[@perfectstormoriley1188]

Funny how its rhe same for me but no one said anything for yeses even my exs mum knew he was hitting me and said nothing!

[@beckykay9178]

@@fayecox9401came here to say the same. ❤

[@ruthmelicharles5062]

A few days ago, I heard a child screamed. This was not the first time, so I didn't hesitate to call the police. The boy is about 10 years old. His family members abuse him. Since the police got involved, I have not heard anything. That neighbour failed the victim in this case. Sometimes, when we hear screams, they are cries for help.

[@marikiemarie7622]

Something similar just happened in my town. A girl went missing for 10days. A neighbor had said she heard screaming from the apartment near here. She said she didn't want to bother to call because it's usually nothing. That girl was found on the side of the road inside a coffee table that had a hinged lid. Her coffee table that was missing from her apartment. I can't fathom why that neighbor didn't call. If called and it ended up being someone setting up surround sound and didn't feel guilty for calling.

[@ruthmelicharles5062]

@@meleshenko3767 🤗

[@dorotheadavis3050]

@@meleshenko3767 Mel please don’t punish yourself. At the time you did what you thought was best.

[@Livetoeat171]

Sometimes? Whenever there's a scream, it's always that someone needs help.

[@ruthmelicharles5062]

@@Livetoeat171 people screamed when they're excited too. I guess we just have to know the difference. Because I won't call the police for my neighbour who screams out her lungs when her husband is home.

[@CJG1419]

I cannot understand people not picking up a phone and calling the police. How utterly selfish

[@Openhousetexas]

The fact that the neighbor did not call the police after hearing the screams says alot about society

[@anthonywright3443]

No, it says a lot about the privileged!!!! A poor neighbor would have called 9 times out of 10!!!

[@fudgesickle352]

No it says a lot about her!!!

[@beth6288]

Actually says alot about that coward neighbor😡

[@Devonellah]

There are a lot of people in Society who are not like that though!!

[@StellaAsh]

Correct.@@fudgesickle352

[@uscitizen1035]

I'm curious how much of his background was she aware of before she married him and brought him into her home. The more I hear of these stories, the more I think people should pay for a full background check before inviting a stranger turned lover to move into their home.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Right. Sometimes even when nothing of urgent alarm is in those background records be careful. People are extremely cunning.

[@celinesbubyvelez761]

I’ve done background checks on all my exes 🙈 guys will think I’m crazy I’m like a a women with a child I need to know what’s going on before it gets anywhere

[@liliivanova2920]

I don’t get who she loved more her daughter or him? Why get him in the same house with 9-10 yo girl? Some women just forget that not every man is what you see!

[@uscitizen1035]

@@liliivanova2920I'm sure she loved her daughter. I'm thinking she just made an error in judgment that cost her life. Hopefully others will learn from this situation and be extra careful about moving a person into their home.

[@liliivanova2920]

@@uscitizen1035 👍

[@ReeseCup45]

Just like everyone else I’m in complete shock that the cowardly neighbor failed to act in that vital moment, she could’ve possibly saved Gretchen’s life. Shame on her. We are supposed to look out for one another, not turn a blind eye because it’s “none of our business”. Rest in peace Gretchen

[@nicholasschoonbeck6866]

Maybe you're new to True Crime, but that's sadly very common. In many cases, people don't call police when they hear or even see things. In many cases, if a woman escapes, or survives, & reaches the road to look for help, most cars will keep driving, though one person may call 911 as they continue driving. And its so common, that we tell women that if they are attacked, they shouldn't scream rape, they should scream fire, because that is a danger for everyone & makes people more likely to take action.

[@ReeseCup45]

@@nicholasschoonbeck6866 not new to true crime at all lol it’s pretty much all I watch. I’m aware that people don’t act in moments like this, many don’t take the opportunity to call 911 in suspicious situations but this case in particular is special in my opinion. The neighbor GROSSLY missed an opportunity to save someone’s life and I believe most people would call 911 if they heard the things she heard.

[@Dustyp3ar]

​@@ReeseCup45 😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@emilymoss6657]

In the NYC subway

[@brandyyolidio4213]

I understand what you mean but the only coward I see is David Anthony, he is the one who did this, the neighbor failed to act, but it does not implicate them...Big difference between the two.

[@proudlyigboSophia]

The neighbors are USELESS. Very USELESS.

[@user-qw7kh4ll3d]

Agree !

[@bethanyboothe4817]

God, please let me have enough care and concern for people that if I hear someone screaming I don’t rationalize a reason to not call the police, but get help. We’ve been conditioned so long to just mind our business, that we miss opportunities to help people.

[@CHELSEABuckhannon]

AMEN l agree 👍 and we would want someone too call for us treat people how we want to be treated thank you LORD Jesus Christ GOD AMEN l love you

[@JoeyDaBull]

@@CHELSEABuckhannon ur still rationalizing.. if u dont step in yourself right away they will be dead long before the cops show up..

[@kristyaafa2191]

Precisely! And abusers use that to their advantage. They tell victims that no one will hear them or if they do, no one will call the police and in fact the abusers brainwash their victims about calling police in general it becomes a “violation of loyalty” BS. Bottom line… let’s break this mindset of not sticking our nose in someone else’s business if it means it can potentially save a life!! 🙏🏼

[@krishnarao3768]

Very complicated,....

[@JoeyDaBull]

@@krishnarao3768 not really.. its called still being human.. especially for a strong man or better yet ccw carrier..

[@annschram8552]

How could the neighbor hear the screams and NOT call the police? Unbelievable!

[@aroseprince]

I mean there are some places in the u.s.a. where calling the police can be an offense. So for example there's some cities where if police are called to the same address or by the same phone number a certain number of times within a year it's like a misdemeanor or something. And sometimes you don't have control or knowledge of how many times people who lived at the address that you live at called

[@toodleloo2253]

The kicker is that what goes around, comes around.. Clearly, the witness was half asleep or scared to get involved, but that's NO Excuse!!-

[@blinklost]

Her stupidity 🙄 🤦 she could hv safe her life, if thr neighbor did..

[@dazeyknows6736]

She should be arrested

[@PatrickTravisKelly]

A moral civic duty, after hearing things she said she heard said. But had no problem.casually walking up to this cop n says what sounded like an obvious physical attack.

[@anonymouspenguin9118]

"They wanted life in prison, but they wanted Gretchen more." Man, that's just so incredibly sad but understandable 😭

[@christianemontazer]

They should’ve beat it out of him🤬 she didn’t have that choice, why should he 🤯🤬 then he should’ve gotten the death penalty 🤬🤬

[@ronedgington2179]

Don’t worry he won’t last 38 years

[@blinklost]

He v I also buried Gretchen's body in one of those places the cellphone ping just a thought ..

[@debrafrakes6479]

Just CANNOT imagine hearing a scream and not calling 911.

[@BaanSamui]

so weird, you can change your name in the states so easily! hold on, how easy to slip in to a new life! crazy system.

[@afirmrose]

So sad that nobody cares about their neighbors anymore.

[@lisapope1462]

This husband committed a horrific crime. A female that lives nearby, hears Gretchen screaming and yelling “stop, your hurting me” and choses to ignores this. Not only is this shocking, but it is deeply disturbing on so many levels. Did the neighbor that failed to report the screaming know David Anthony? If yes, I wonder what her relationship with him is? Some states have a “ failure to report a crime” law. I hope the authorities look into this.

[@cheriamour2429]

I don't understand how someone could ignore that. I couldn't live with myself!

[@Scrappicat]

My ex pushed me to the bed and said, "I'm going to make sure you never do that again!" and started pounding me. I had hit him in the back of the head with my wallet because he said something rude to me. Luckily, a neighbor called and police came fast. He was still hitting me. To this day, I don't know who called but I am so grateful! He was arrested and put in jail.

[@SuzanneTatham-so1jj]

Bad men act as good men stand by and do nothing

[@cheriamour2429]

@@Scrappicat thank God your life was saved. You never know how bad it could've gotten! Thanks for her calling for help!

[@ScreamTatumRiley]

It’s not shocking it’s called minding your business most women go back to their abuser anyway so what’s the point

[@spacecowgurl57]

I can tell you why. When he met her, he had nothing. She became a payday. It made him look successful. When she put him out, he moved to Mom's apartment. Big step down. You don't do that to a criminal. I've seen it before. And he had undeniable rage. 😢

[@ZoeF.O]

Let's not forget how beautiful Puerto Rico is at that time of a year. 🙄 Sickos everywhere.

[@factcheck5224]

I’m uncomfortable with your remark “you don’t do that.” It sounds like this guy had a lot of people fooled. She did everything she could to protect herself. I left an abusive marriage after 14 years and my ex stalked me and I finally had to move to a big city in another State and rebuild my life when I was 40 years old. Statistics show the most dangerous time for a woman in a controlling and/or abusive marriage/relationship is the first 2 years AFTER she leaves.

[@paulaellis6242]

@@factcheck5224 Be proud, you deserve all the best!!!!!!!

[@remainselusive1]

Exactly right, and he is a Jew

[@keepitsimple4629]

@@factcheck5224 I see nothing wrong with the remark "you don't do that to a criminal". It implies you don't do that, without consequences.

[@cali.girllivinnnevada8]

This question is for the neighbor….If you were concerned, why didn’t you call the cops? Her neighbors failed her, BIG TIME….😞

[@Theranchhouse1]

How does the neighbor sleep at night after knowing she aided the murderer by not reporting screams to 911?

[@Roses_777]

And did you notice in the video it's narrated that "she APPROACHED" the police?? I mean, why bother if you never bothered to call them.

[@RaceMentally]

They took photos but no call.

[@guardingheroes]

@@RaceMentally that’s the sick part.

[@Garbeaux.]

Like it or not, some people are of the type to mind their own business regardless of the circumstances. Some don’t want to be involved, some don’t like police, and some second guess themselves.

[@tinagriggs1004]

Absolutely unbelievable that the neighbor that heard the blood curdling screams and hearing her fighting for her life didn't call the police. We as humans have to be more engaged than that. It might not have saved her life, but he probably would have been caught sooner.

[@alfee9411]

Yeah just sad

[@eunicem1542]

Hope karma gets her!

[@nixm9093]

Absolutely unbelievable that the neighbour is getting more flak than the killer

[@theresarasche3173]

I can’t believe a person can hear a woman screaming and saying no and not call 911…seriously what are they thinking! What if it was her who needed help and everyone ignored her?

[@AnneQuiet]

Just got to that part.🤦🏻‍♀️

[@MedGirl-lf1zj]

Absolutely terrible… I don’t understand

[@camillahellberg6249]

I saved my neighbor when I heard her scrime for help

[@conniehayes4957]

We’re they afraid of him?

[@gsmm4717]

​@Camilla Hellberg I did the same, she was so grateful

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

28:16 - His initial reaction wasn't that he never killed anyone. Upon learning his charge was for Homicide- he simply asked "for who?" I wish the Detective had followed up with "What do you mean? You killed more than one person?"

[@chal3t]

Exactly

[@danielegarotti7884]

I dentro think that is it

[@antjobert]

No, he was just playing innocent like he had no idea anything had happened to Gretchen. Not very convincing.

[@MoroMoro1]

Wow! The security cameras that she had installed showed clear as day who her killer was. May she rest peacefully.

[@mariaamado1909]

Did you go to that website it said to see the camera footage?

[@rozalina531]

🌟🙏🏻🌟

[@melrevahz]

@@mariaamado1909yes it’s on the website. He looks right into the camera.

[@Realbeautyisrare82]

It is so sad her neighbor didn’t call the cops, after hearing someone screaming so loudly!! 🥺😢😳🤦🏻‍♀️

[@leeannspencer2952]

The way he asked. “For who?” Gave me chills. Every inch of my body knows this wasn’t his first time killing someone.

[@hensonlaura]

He was pretending to not know who was dead!

[@leeannspencer2952]

@@hensonlaura I understand that but he seams WAY TO COOL about all of it. I stand by the fact that I don’t believe it was his first time killing someone. Plus the random name change screams something is up with him.

[@giftofthewild6665]

Oh my wife? Never heard of her before.

[@TonicYellow19]

Right as i was reading your comment that segment played. Talk about chills. Wow!!

[@johnscanlon2598]

Exactly what I thought , also him following the girls , I’d say this guy has a body count

[@KT-zc7lc]

The way Anthony looked at the camera gave me goosebumps.

[@furryp2402]

He knew he was caught

[@vanessaa7602]

Supercreep.

[@krissykriss328]

Soooooo creepy 😮

[@lorettamcgee969]

Ice Cold!!!

[@ironnwine12]

The texts are a red flag immediately. Nobody with a high fever and severe covid symptoms can send text messages that articulate. As her family I would’ve started investigating immediately.

[@rsplatt100]

Especially a text that says “I’m on a ventilator now” 🤔

[@MidWestLife2022]

Exactly!! Patients on a vent arent responsive or stable enough to type text messages

[@CatherineGoodrich]

Can you imagine a sibling or child texting you that? I'd IMMEDIATLEY call them!!! People are so weird.

[@BitcoinMaxy34]

I had a 103 for 13 days with Covid and was able to go chop wood for heat when the power companies decided to do rolling black outs.

[@allergictostupidpeople7893]

​@@rsplatt100 like RIGHT

[@KylieJonkman]

Poor dog! I hope he found his forever home cause he deserved it, he was so well behaved for a husky. 💕💕

[@jorgemarin7303]

He did find a forever home

[@MelindaMc]

He did...went to Animal Control and was adopted.

[@brianmaitai7685]

"Some people should have angels protecting them. she was that kind of woman" said a colleague. What about the rest of us? Don't we deserve Angels to be protected by? What about me. My life doesn't matter? Or is it because i am a transgender leprechaun?

[@jess6646]

Her poor daughter. What a freaking monster. The neighbor that didn’t call the cops is infuriating. I hope she lives with that guilt.

[@Grammapama]

The murderer is the atrocious one

[@maryj2671]

yes, i hope she reads what everyone is saying and feel about her cowardness. Hope she becomes a better human being seeing she did wrong. Will see see that? I sure hope so. God help her..Amen

[@katesun2957]

Those people don't have a conscience or feel guilt. It's just missing in them.

[@c.2538]

Lol Alexa isn’t programmed to call police when you ask her to but she can Google the ingredients to a fruit salad.

[@celinesbubyvelez761]

It has to be set during setting up the process like a phone I have 911 set as ICE incase of emergency and no one will know why I’m saying ICE 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@lorancehack4876]

Good job to the neighbor for hearing everything and not being nosy. Goes back to bed and remembers that night everyday 2-years later just to tell 48 Hours. Props to her, what an amazing neighbor. Just the type of person I need living next door to me.

[@funmiade575]

Lol. I got the sarcasm there. She should have called the police, no matter how nervous or apprehensive she was.

[@mamejoe2043]

She should have called the police even if it just screaming but the fact that she heard you are hurting me is very disturbing but who knows she have her reasons

[@trawlins396]

That interview WASN'T two yrs later. Wtf?? That was her talking to the police a few DAYS after. Pay attention!

[@romeowandrainbow1040]

🤣💯

[@kalkidanhailu8563]

​@@funmiade575 may be she was a bad neighbor

[@nancymcnafferson3192]

Thank you for including the dog found a loving home.

[@amygreat2236]

The dog sitting quietly in the truck while he was being arrested broke my heart

[@Busterboo56]

I just got on here to ask about the dog. That's the only thing I cared about.

[@susanandrew6453]

Yes, I was really relieved to hear that.

[@Elizabeth-yg2mg]

Me too. ​@@Busterboo56

[@whitykitty2651]

@@amygreat2236 the dog looked so scared and sad while that was happening

[@YaLittleFriend]

Honestly the woman who admits she hears blood curdling screams should’ve never shared it. At that point it just makes you look like a complete arse to not call 911.

[@melissap5172]

It's pretty common. Also why women are taught to yell fire not rape if they are being raped. More people are likely to check out a fire.

[@shawnmurray9964]

It’s a damn good thing she did share it. Hindsight is 20/20 & you can bet she is beating herself up about it.

[@Thirtyfivepercentferal]

@@shawnmurray9964 As she should be. She could have possibly saved this woman's life with barely any effort whatsoever. That's the type of thing you SHOULD beat yourself up over neglecting to do. But I agree it is good she shared the info. Better late than never, I guess.

[@mom2babygkaterad946]

@@Thirtyfivepercentferal Truth! Sadly we live in a “mind your own business” society, especially in affluent areas. As mentioned, I’m certain she wishes she’d done so sooner. At least she eventually did so.

[@marsukarhu9477]

Yeah, it's pretty chilling... I wouldn't want to have that on MY conscience-

[@happydayz7857]

The thing is his anger towards her was still there after he killed her. He let his rage out at the cops. That emotion doesn’t go away just because he killed his target. He’s a narcissist and his ego is still bruised.

[@kalkidanhailu8563]

She is dead so 😏more than her ego was hurt

[@kathleenking47]

We grew narcissists, with self ESTEEM, not self WORTH training they're 2 different things

[@lovejumanji5]

Spot on ! The key phrases and actions and elements are all there

[@melaniem8561]

Thank you for telling us what happened to Colby. He deserves a loving home.

[@roxannerios769]

Agreed, I think I'll be thinking about Colby for a while.

[@missjhey]

The whole time I was concerned about Colby.

[@marilynschroeter796]

That gave me peace that another family took the dog.

[@2Blessed2BeStressed]

Omg I thought I was the only one worried about the dog lol! I’m glad he was adopted but at the same time it would of also been nice to see if he could of went back home w/ his mom instead. As long as he is happy & safe!

[@2Blessed2BeStressed]

Matter fact, I think 48 hours should do an update special to show us how Colby is doing these days 🐶💙

[@noemigonzalez449]

If she hadn’t installed those security cameras, they’d have nothing on him.

[@gabriels3909]

they had witnesses take photos of his truck.

[@Daria_Es]

In most countries in Europe, the neighbor who heard the cries for help would be punished for not calling the police. What a terrible person this neighbour is! I hope she can't sleep well since she knows she didn't give Gretchen a chance to be saved.

[@mortimerbrewster3671]

I wouldn't want to live in a country that punishes you for not making a phone call. The fact is, if she lived in one of those countries she wouldn't have admitted to have heard something and not called, and the police wouldn't have had some vital information.

[@banyana6515]

Name those countries. I don't believe you.

[@headkandywhore]

@@banyana6515 in Germany it is called unterlassene Hilfeleistung and it is a punishable offense

[@mickimicki]

@@headkandywhore nonsense!

[@carlose6010]

I have a feeling the person was of low iq. It's not an excuse, but some can be really self-centered and dupid.

[@factcheck5224]

His Mother KNEW!!! She knew about his name change. His past record. As a parent I am so angry and appalled at parents who protect their ADULT children!!!

[@robertmistkowski9879]

Maybe I'm just different but minus raping children I'm with my kids no matter what.,I obviously wouldn't stand by while they do it but turn my back and/or turn them in?? just couldn't..idk if I'm wrong for that but ijs

[@alexvids9232]

Nonsense. You think he told her? Zero chance.

[@reneek7721]

His mommy is still changing his diaper that's why she helped.

[@bbills4186]

His Mom, may not have known about what happened to Gretchen, but she certainly knows the monster she raised.

[@hollybodx2]

This guy has to be one of the dumbest criminals I've ever seen, just as Gretchen's neighbor is one of the biggest cowards I've ever seen. What a cluster fvk of a tragedy. My heart goes out to the daughter.

[@mortimerbrewster3671]

I wouldn't credit criminals with being intelligent, especially the ones who get caught. I'm shocked he had a head start, was on the road for several days and had only gotten to Las Cruces. I've driven across country multiple times and if I had murdered someone, in those three days, I would have been in Mexico some time in the second day.

[@hollybodx2]

@@mortimerbrewster3671 Right??? I would've gotten rid of both phones ASAP and stolen a license plate while I was at it too. What a maroon!

[@hollymerchant9550]

I love your name.. and you sound like we have similar dispositions, lolz... I totally agree!

[@hollybodx2]

@@hollymerchant9550 lol! I love yours too! Thanks to our moms for not giving us pedestrian monikers. And yeah, I'm a tad feisty and way over educated. 😏

[@hollymerchant9550]

@@hollybodx2 lolz 😂.. same here.

[@amandaduerk5866]

The puppy sitting like such a good boi in the car got me 😭😭😭

[@sarahmottram3369]

That pup is traumatized.

[@lisapatrona1791]

Me too. I was so relieved to see the episode included that he had been adopted not long after his POS owner was arrested and charged.

[@CarlinDontCare]

I don’t care what anybody says but prosecutors making a deal with the defendants is a slap to the victims and to their family’s face.

[@vanillaghetto]

Uh, 38 years isn't much of a "deal"...dude will be 81 if he ever gets out.

[@andreabosley1669]

He still has a chance to get out..... Also if you count good behavior it could cut his time in half more or less. If he had life he wouldn't have a chance. Justice for family and victims is NO CHANCE

[@DellAnderson]

@@vanillaghetto Ever heard of parole? He won't be in there 38 years. Might catch covid you know. Seriously -- the reason we lock people up (or execute them) is NOT just to make the family happy. It's to protect SOCIETY. Somehow our 'justice' system has forgotten about law abiding citizens and the result is society suffers.

[@joegroves4325]

38 years is still a really long time and he is likely to die in prison, especially because of his mental state, I hate to say it.

[@DellAnderson]

@@joegroves4325 In America, 38 years doesn't mean 38 years, with good behavior they can be paroled sooner, even notorious convicts like Manson kept coming up for parole and all it takes is a favorable parole review (and the incentive to save money by getting him out of prison early) , and he's back on the streets.

[@travelnjoi]

I hope her daughter will remember the good times with her mother and succeed in life. A big thank you to the producers for letting us know the dog was okay.

[@laurenherda2415]

What a horrible neighbor!!! She heard all this and didn't call the police unreal.

[@wioi]

I agree it angers me so much. I hope karma gets her and nobody calls when she screams for help

[@michaelhoggarth89]

Mrs H 🇬🇧 ... It happens more often than you think where people rely on others to act... I bet she's traumatised by this now... It's a hard lesson to learn and live with...❤

[@Estellbel1968]

Yeah what a coward

[@darrylg3861]

Hopefully she will scream for help one day. And no one will respond.

[@butchcassidy3373]

I helped my wife get out of an abusive relationship with her first husband. She stayed until her kids were grown but the hell she lived with was atrocious. She feared for her life daily. We have a beautiful loving relationship. She's a wonderful woman and didn't deserve the hell she lived in. She was seriously injured a few times. I'm so sorry this woman couldn't escape this monster she was with. I'm so sorry to hear so many women are treated this way. I hope every woman in a violent relationship can find a way out.

[@NFS305]

I hope all people can get out of bad relationships. That’s equality.

[@emilyemily444]

I can't believe that sorry excuse for a neighbour, didn't call the police! She could've potentially saved that poor womans life😢

[@AnyoneCanSee]

Like Justine Damond. She called cops to report a woman being assaulted and the cops shot her dead when they arrived. You have to be crazy to call the cops in the USA. They are brutal murders or they plant evidence on you.

[@SpiritGirlSF]

Save lives, audit the vaccine. Make related death autopsies public information.

[@lynnearlyriser]

It would have cost that woman nothing to call 911.

[@KatBrat808]

And that her Alexa is hooked up to the internet but couldn’t call the police 🫠 So many things could have changed this outcome.

[@ThisIsJ.Nicole]

​@Lynn Early Right. She could've remained anonymous and that poor woman's life could've possibly been saved.

[@cathietonkin5577]

To hear a urgent cry for help and not call for aid is unforgivable! It’s a phone call, you don’t need to be physically involved in what’s going on! Has the human race sank so low and so callous? I pray we haven’t! RIP dear Lady!

[@SweetThing]

Yes, yes it has..

[@LLmoney23]

Unfortunately

[@chrisemerson7743]

I’m afraid so

[@jaysleeper264]

More disconnected and anti social than ever

[@angelwen0927]

I always call. There is once I saw a strange expression from a young lady with a man, and I called the police.I would rather to make a mistake than to let her go and something happens to her. I experienced similar situation when I was attacked on street by a random person, and no one offered help or call for me. It was extremely sad. Just call, everyone!. It’s better to make a mistake than letting someone get hurt or murdered , please

[@alwayshavestrengthjoy7450]

The person messed up when they texted saying, I am on a ventilator! If she was in ICU, she would be unable to text that. Very sad, the evil going on out here. So much for her daughter to go through and the neighbor heard her cry for help and did nothing.

[@WindDancer435]

That is the same thing I wrote!

[@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord]

EXACTLY 🎉

[@moondance_xoxo]

Am i the only one sitting here thinking its highly suspicious that he asks "for who?" ... does that mean he's killed before?? i know he's trying to come across as innocent but asking "for who" does the complete opposite of that and raises concerns for me.

[@yvonnecooper5004]

It did for me

[@aftonrae4038]

I really like when they tell us what happened to pets involved in these stories. I’m always worried about their well-being too

[@Ashley-wu7hy]

It's not always a good outcome unfortunately. Sometimes they get adopted but even cases where the kids live or one kid I saw as an adult still wasn't sure what happened to his puppy once he was taken after his dad killed his mother. It's a famous crime and his channel is about surviving... Telling detectives his father killed her and his father is in jail still ga lighting him and he reads the letters in videos. He finally met someone who told him he got his dog all those years ago and he started bawling. It's another great video..

[@markdavidson9558]

Wtf.

[@JaysRandomnessChannel]

​@@markdavidson9558 😂😂😂...like F them pets!!

[@womanonabicycle]

@kyrae I know! I'm always glad when they include what happened to the pets.

[@bayek9869]

You’re worried about gross dog mutants 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DivyaJoan]

I'm fascinated with the interviews in these 48 hours mystery series. The people being interviewed already know the outcome of the case in most cases...they already know someone is dead, the perpetrator is imprisoned etc...yet the tenses they use and the sentence formations seem to indicate something ongoing like the outcome is yet to be determined. It keeps the mystery alive for the viewers. Very elaborate work writing these scripts or directing them to respond in a particular manner and even getting some of the victim's family members to be conscious of what they are saying and then editing these later. A lot of work indeed! Well done!

[@alexlogan202]

48 hours sucks

[@00jyjsarang]

They just preface their questions with "at this point" and remind respondents to speak in the present tense. Not a huge amount of work.

[@nl212ep]

That’s a really cool observation. I never considered that. You’re right.

[@reginaphilen9725]

Dateline uses similar scripting... Even though the outcome is known...the stories are presented as mysteries in present tense mostly...as they unfold

[@TheCandiceWang]

Very observant!! ​@@reginaphilen9725so does 20/20. They all do. All these news magazine shows.

[@guenadyguenady4773]

Thank you for letting us know what became of the dog... Usually such «details« get overlooked. The dog was another victim.

[@Alexe829]

As was his unsuspecting Mother! I hope all those who suffer find some peace.

[@ChiaraMorgan]

PLEASE call police even for the smallest screams! No one gets a second chance after they are dead. I am so sorry for that woman, her child and her family and friends.

[@theresehopkins1581]

Speaking as a woman.... we never leave our purse behind. If a purse is left out in the open like that, there's something seriously wrong with us!! And, that neighbor who heard all that and didn't even call anonymously.... shame on her.... she has to live with her cowardice.... and we all know what a creep she actually is.... Bravo 48 hours!!

[@rachelcookie321]

Sometimes I leave my bag in the car because I can’t be bothered bringing the whole thing and I’ll just bring my phone and/or wallet. I also have multiple bags I use so I always leave them in places when not in use.

[@theresehopkins1581]

@@rachelcookie321 but you don't leave it unprotected, where someone can just reach in the car and grab it... noone would do that...not in the open!!!... On the floor, under the seat, under a sweater or jacket.... just hidden in some way.... yeah.... but not just left in the open. I don't bring my whole purse with me all the time either, but I do not leave it where it can be seen. And if I see something really suspicious... I call the police and they can sort it out. But we already know something was wrong, so it's easy to say what should have been done!!... All we can do is not take unnecessary chances!! ....Stay safe out there!! 😊

[@rachelcookie321]

@@theresehopkins1581 I often leave it where it can be seen lol. There’s not a lot of break ins here so I let my guard down. I don’t know anyone who’s had their car broken into.

[@theresehopkins1581]

@@rachelcookie321 you are so lucky... we've even had small change taken out of an unlocked car!!! We would leave toll money in the car.... there we were at the toll... no change!!!.... had to get over to one the booths to get change!!! After that we locked the car and kept the change in our pockets!! 😅🤣😂

[@rachelcookie321]

@@theresehopkins1581 I mean, I do always lock the car lol.

[@astridvvv9662]

After first looking into the research regarding the psychology of the Bystander Effect- *the inhibiting influence of the presence of others on a person's willingness to help someone in need* -I took a personal vow to ALWAYS be the one to act should I ever come into a situation where one thinks to themselves "should someone do something?" I'm fairly young, but already I've had occasion to take that vow to task several times. I've called to report swerving, dangerous driving. A car upside down in some woods below the highway, a large tree branch hanging on a powerline, a sketchy looking dude running through backyards, a freshly fallen tree on the roadway, a dog off the side of the road alone and looking frightened. And finally, disturbing screams from a camp site. There's more than that, but what I can say is that 9/10 these situations are by and large relatively low stakes. But once you prime yourself to be the one that acts, should you ever find yourself in a high stakes situation you won't be shy to act.

[@rsplatt100]

🙌

[@lesliebarnett5240]

Well said.

[@mizzteareacts9397]

As someone who lost their mother at a young age it’s such a horrible tragedy! She is going to hurt for the rest of her life. No mother to pick out a prom dress, help dress her for her wedding, see her grandchildren grow up! He also robbed the daughter of a life with her mother !! 😢

[@zxy78267]

@@EllaBella-76 The dog was adopted from the shelter.

[@liliivanova2920]

That is why I wish all women with children would think 10 times more before bringing another “dad” in the house! Specially with the big girls, actually with any children of yours. Your children being under strange person’s supervision? No, that is absolutely terrifying! “Bonus dad”, bonus sh…t nah.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

No offense, but that’s a lot of assumptions you make about the future of the daughter and even the relationship of the mom and daughter. I know my mom didn’t help me pick out my prom dress - I had to pay for it myself. My niece didn’t even get a homecoming or prom because of “covid.” I also never got married, nor had kids. My mom and I have fought like cats and dogs forever, as did my brother and mother. Neither of us have had contact with her for years because of the stress and drama that comes when she was in our lives. Just remember that when people get murdered, friends and family will say nothing but positive things about the victim. It’s very improper to any speak ill of them. We really don’t know what the future will be for the daughter, nor what her relationship with the mother was like or would have been like when the daughter got older.

[@hensonlaura]

My mom died when I was 13, I'm mourning her still at 56 y/o; it never goes away. Since no one took care of us after she died, our (my sister & I) our lives were ruined. No supervision, no guidance, tolerance not love. We weren't protected and were easy pickings for sexual predators. When my husband beat me up I called my father and asked him to help me. His reply was, "sounds like a personal problem". My mother would have had a very different response. So many times I missed my mother

[@zxy78267]

@@hensonlaura That's so sad. I'm very sorry.

[@sergeisergei4700]

You mean to tell me the guy had Gretchen's phone in his truck, he claims he don't know where she is other than she is sick with covid and the police didn't have enough reason to arrest him on the spot? HE HAD HER PHONE!!!!!

[@Zazu89]

What a useless neighbor... How do you NOT call the cops?

[@shonikaschronicles]

I remember when I was living in an apartment complex, I was awaken out of my sleep around 3am…. I looked out of my window and saw a man beating a woman… I called 911, gave them the name of the complex and the area where I saw the fight. I asked that I remain anonymous because I don’t want anyone potentially coming to my apartment; however I still wanted to make sure the girl received help!!! LEO arrived about 5 minutes and arrested the guy….

[@Shay-yv1qw]

It's infuriating when someone hears the struggle and doesn't call the police. Unreal!!!😡 People that blatantly ignore obvious signs of distress should be held accountable in some way.

[@sunitafisher4758]

🌸 agreed, she blatantly ignored it

[@turquoisebeachchair7454]

Agreed. Honestly charge them with obstruction of justice or hindering an investigation. Something! If you hear something or see something SAY something. I bet they had to blur her face bc knowing that she missed the chance to potentially save this woman’s life, she probably feels a lot of shame and guilt, as she should and I assume she doesn’t want to be known. Even if she had called and they weren’t able to save her, she could have known she did everything she could to help someone clearly in dire need of it. Very disappointing and I will just never understand why she wouldn’t have just called???

[@redshed2020]

So they hear her scream and take pictures of his truck but they don't call the police? What is wrong with people?

[@MrBudgiejoe]

I think it's obvious why he ended Gretchen's life. He wanted to get back with her, and living with his mother was humiliating for him. She refused but he would not take no for an answer. If he couldn't have her then nobody would. Rip Gretchen. You met a bad one.

[@TheCandiceWang]

Very possible. He's had 2.5 years now since trial ended. I just want him to her daughter WHY

[@lennarthagen3638]

Still alive

[@atnicholesplace7648]

I will never understand how someone can hear a person screaming like that and not call for help. That is the least you can do, is call. You're one cold hearted person to listen to that a do nothing.

[@Uniqueen1114]

Exactly right? I mean that neighbour heard her plead and scream yet they do nothing, like absolutely nothing? How could they even sleep peacefully ?

[@feralhomunculus]

​@@Uniqueen1114 That's what I was thinking. How could you just go to sleep after that?

[@createwithkas]

That part gave me the chills. I'm sure she's going to carry a lot of guilt.

[@alainaXlovesXyou]

I don’t understand that either. Like, I get not wanting to get involved in other people’s business but when there is clear harm going on! You call! We had to call cops on our old neighbors a few times because you could hear them slamming each other against the wall and screaming at each other. Maybe nothing came of it from the cops coming out, but I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if we didn’t at least try to help. Geez.

[@louniece1650]

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who just don't care unless it's about them. Their apathy is very real. Scary.

[@AwokenEntertainment]

I can't believe they let him go so many times..

[@Kathryn-lk1ii]

I ran a rehab and Covid totally took The wind out of me as the worst behavioral nightmare. Clients relapsing, dying like flies, suicide. Broke my heart ❤️

[@emmalouise7884]

It was terrible.

[@Marlaina]

My mother and two of her brothers died just weeks apart from it. Totally devastated my family.

[@emmalouise7884]

@@Marlaina oh that's awful I'm so sorry. 😢 We lost my aunt. My husband was on ICU twice in 6 months, still not well its affected his lungs long term but to lose all those you loved, that's devastating.🫂

[@JulieRushworth]

All part of there plan

[@WindDancer435]

@@JulieRushworth What do you mean, "all part of there plan"? Also, I think you mean "their", not "there".

[@angryfluteperson]

THIS is why I look out the window when there’s a ruckus on the street and ring my neighbors up when I hear something concerning in the house. That one time out of 99 could be when something terrible happens and your help could save a life. Don’t be that woman. Stay safe but also stay vigilant.

[@darrylg3861]

You are a good neighbor. No higher compliment than "a good neighbor" ❤️

[@bonniemoerdyk9809]

I'm known as the nosy neighbor who checks out the window several times a day. I called the fire dept. when my neighbor across the street, and over one, had smoke billowing out the back door. There was about a foot of snow on the ground, I got my boots on quickly and trudged thru the snow to go get her out of the house, but as I was crossing the street, the Fire truck pulled up and we all ran in together, only to find she was drying a load of clothes, and with the subzero temps outside, the 'steam' came out of the pipe near the back door! So ... I dragged the fire dept. out for nothing, but better safe than sorry! (I've been in two fires before)

[@nanaman]

In the 70’s I screamed for help in a 300 unit apartment building and it took several hours before someone called for the police to come. It’s a nightmare to be involved in this situation.

[@Toddboehly818]

Hello 👋 how are you doing today? I hope this year brings happiness, peace and love all over the world 🌎 I’m originally from Canada 🇨🇦 grow up in Fort Worth Texas, currently living in Key West Florida. Where are you from if i may ask?

[@Wanderedinto]

Nothing significant has happened in our society to protect women against DV, my dad used to beat my mother to a pulp, I got in the middle because not one neighbor would help. The cops would tell him to go cool off for the night while she has a broken nose, busted lips and horrible lacerations. That was the 60’s

[@NFS305]

@@Wanderedintomany significant things have happened. Stop living in a closet.

[@NFS305]

@@Toddboehly818odd post there mate

[@delana2842]

The fact the neighbor heard Gretchen's screams "No!," "Stop it!," "It hurts," and did absolutely nothing will haunt her for the rest of her life. As for a reason why David murdered Gretchen, it is pretty obvious. She recognized he was crazy, put him out and filed for divorce. Simply, "REJECTION!" Dude had gotten by on his height and good looks for so long that no woman left him, but rather he did the leaving. If he could not have her nobody could. I have seen his type before. He is a psychopath and stalker. It would not surprise me, he watched Gretchen for a while, stalking her every move, then wooing and eventually marrying her. A quick background check on this manic would have made all the difference in the world. If, I am at all wrong, I stand corrected.

[@London-v1e]

I doubt it will haunt her

[@delana2842]

Oh, trust me it will.

[@ifrahabi4834]

I was so upset with this neighbour saying what she had and did not call the police.

[@hazelkathryn]

Something else is also pure evil....standing by hearing someone screaming and saying "stop you're hurting me" and doing NOTHING to help. Not even calling 911. What a selfish heartless society!

[@nycsocal1]

Sad too that it was another woman who ignored her cries for help.

[@jaddek.astrie3071]

The neighbor is not responsible in any way the guy would have vomit the crime anyways.

[@blahsrus]

How can her neighbors be apprehensive to anonymously call police but walk up to them with their story days later. They have no heart and no love for poor Gretchen or her daughter. Damn shame

[@wioi]

Exactly

[@cruisepaige]

I’ve had neighbors that constantly yelled and screamed at each other.

[@Leo-qf3iq]

@@wioi don't be mad at the neighbors she's probably some little old woman who's afraid of her own shadow. Instead let's try to educate women of all ages be careful who you let into your life because you never know if you're letting in a prince charming or demon 👿👿👿

[@Leo-qf3iq]

@@cruisepaige can't blame the neighbor really you have to check out people before you let them into your life. Lots of men and women think that life is like a movie and it's not you got to be careful

[@abocas]

@@Leo-qf3iq no,she was not an old lady. Didn't you watch the video.

[@momto7ify]

It is terrible the neighbors ignored her screams. They should of called the cops and maybe it would of saved her. I hope Gretchen's family finds closure and peace .

[@marcosta183]

She. got head over heels for his tall figure and immediate charm. But soon she discovered whose kind of man he was. Therefore, she filled for divorce. However, he had no money, no job, no opportunities. He wanted to be accepted back by his ex-wife. For support... her refusal costed her life.😮 He deserves to get rotten in jail😢

[@Itsinthewater747]

It's really such a shame that someone arrested after following teenage girls can only spend a few days in jail. It clearly usually points to a greater intent than just following and stalking, and is often followed by violent behavior like this. I wish we could do more. Prayers to Gretchen's family

[@KB-xk2fe]

I feel so bad for the dog ….. he sat quietly in the car while his owner was losing it

[@razsrq8918]

With him knowing he had already murdered someone, and possibly feeling that he would eventually get caught, I feel the girls he decided to follow were at great risk. So glad they called it in.

[@saltedllama2759]

Well, without a long list of documented priors, it is difficult for law enforcement or a court to guess at someone's intent and sentenced based on that. On the other end, many corrupt officials would certainly abuse that if it did exist. Besides, many government agencies are filled with pedos (see: DOJ, Department of Education, HHS, IRS...), so some of them have no interest in stopping creeps from creeping.

[@Itsinthewater747]

@traybern okay thanks. I'm a person with ESL

[@hollyh5533]

​@@Itsinthewater747🤔I would have said the same

[@lollie880]

It’s shocking to know how many people could have been saved if witnesses would had just called 911! Then they have the guts to report the crime to the police afterwards when it’s too late! As if they expect to be called heroes!

[@lovingpia27]

Exactly

[@CACOS-ALIVE]

48hrs needs to come forth with these stories more often. I’m addicted…..😳😳

[@pmshea63]

You can watch his full interrogation right here on KZbin if you are interested. I love watching 48hours as well.

[@rebeccavelayas8868]

We were saying goodbye to our company on our front porch when we heard a scream coming from a deserted area where an old brewery existed. We immediately called the police and advised them of where it came from. They found a female that had been taken at knife point off a bridge and down to the old brewery. They did not catch the guy but the female was safe. Unfortunately when our local news paper reported the incident they included our address as the persons reporting the scream. My mother was furious as she had two teenage daughters living at home.

[@maxinef6654]

Had the neighbor called….. Damn, you hear someone screaming for their life and you don’t call the police?

[@Thirtyfivepercentferal]

"This case hit differently. We're talking about someone who is a mother, daughter, sister, friend..." Yeah. No other missing person is any of those things.. Such a different case.. 🙄

[@LRho]

Yeah I thought that too. Pretty moronic comment to make.

[@Thirtyfivepercentferal]

@@LRho I'm honestly surprised that wasn't cut in editing.

[@Adrian-zd4cs]

Yeah she's definitely overdramatic

[@jayATUK]

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that and thought what a stupid comment of hers that was... So she's basically saying she's only ever dealt with male victims (who could be fathers, sons, brothers, friends but not mothers, daughters or sisters), or only with female orphaned victims who've somehow lived in a bubble that they don't even have any friends. Either seems unlikely 🙄

[@MichelMawon4982]

I noticed that...but even the most clever people misspeak.

[@saga2964]

What is wrong with people who hear something serious and don't call police? That neighbor should be ashamed of herself and those screams should haunt her until the day she leaves this earth. There is NO excuse for her inaction.

[@happydayz7857]

I don’t know. I was reporting my best friend’s neighbors domestic violence when I was 10 years old. I could hear him beating her through the walls.

[@donnabaardsen5372]

​@@happydayz7857 And your point is? Your post makes no sense.

[@myeyeswentdeaf6213]

Maybe she had a warrant.

[@dillkosher5116]

Well actually the neighbor has every right to mind her own business and not get involved, which is what she did. It’s not her duty to call anyone regardless of what you think it’s just not simple as that. Some people will call some people won’t.

[@saga2964]

@@dillkosher5116 it's too bad you feel that way. I feel sorry for your neighbors.

[@jcordovaphoto]

How is having her phone not enough evidence to initially arrest him?

[@puffpuff024]

As a person in a previous domestic violence relationship. I would pray that someone would call the cops when he would beat me because after doing it myself many times and them doing nothing I just stopped doing it. It's not always possible for people to stand up for themselves.

[@pulaski1]

Met him at a gym where he was a trainer, married in Vegas at an Elvis chapel. What could possibly go wrong? 🙄

[@robincarter4162]

I may be wrong for feeling this way and maybe not. I hope the neighbor that heard Gretchen screaming for help hears it every time she lays down and closes her eyes, I hope it haunts her. If only she had just done the right thing then Gretchen might still be here today.

[@TonicYellow19]

Another person on here said she should've made some phone calls. Lmao Like you have time for all that. Said she didn't call cuz afraid of being a snitch. Geez man. Some ppl.. no brains or common sense.

[@TheCandiceWang]

While I mostly agree, let's place the actual blame on the perpetrator: David Anthony Deutsch.

[@blinklost]

Totally agree with you

[@bdml77]

You're right

[@einiripatti7658]

Is this woman real?! "I heard a terrible scream, as if somebody was being attacked". Then I take pictures for "proof". Would the victim have lived if she had called the police? unbelievable

[@misstruboyzrc]

I can’t imagine hearing someone scream like that & NOT calling 911. That makes me want to tell my neighbors if they ever hear me or anyone else for that matter scream like that to CALL THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY!!!

[@kimberlyprice6975]

How could you NOT call the police when you hear someone SCREAMING for help???!!!!😢

[@SpringNotes]

I know that part surprised me. And judging by the amount of comments against the neighbor, most people are very upset. Rightfully so. Unfortunately, the neighbor did not call. She must've had tremendous guilt afterwards, by her later actions of approaching the police and the media, and relating what she heard. In a way, I feel bad for the neighbor. For she has to live with what she didn't do.

[@kimberlyprice6975]

@Spring Notes yes you are right. It's terrible for everyone 😪

[@brenda0823_]

The neighbors took the time to take pictures of his truck but not call 911? Blows my mind!!

[@l-b284]

agree, if you don't want to be a neighbor, don't live in a neighborhood.

[@patriciasisson84]

But so awesome that they took the picture. That placed Andrew there after he supposedly moved out.

[@RuthLinares-z9w]

Don't ever let your common sense be blurred by physical appearance and charm. Those say nothing about character and heart. RIP beautiful lady ❤

[@celiajarvis3168]

First thing that called my attention as odd are the technical detailed messages that no one being so critically ill with "covid' would have the strength and mind to write.

[@maryc7363]

Especially if they’re on a Ventilator

[@HughWoo]

@@maryc7363 being on a ventilator does not mean you’re not able to communicate just as you would any other time. You’re on as little sedatives as possible at all times while on ventilators.

[@emmalouise7884]

I thought this too. My husband was on iCU with covid twice, he could only manage short texts he was exhausted I had to call the hospital for updates. He couldn't speak he was too breathless.

[@maiskitty]

I have wondered how many murders slipped under the radar during the height of the pandemic with lockdowns and medical and post mortem facilities so overwhelmed...

[@lademoiselleketoret6958]

Tons. 😭

[@ChristiansPrayingTogether]

There are people that let their family members get sick and die, especially the elderly....what I've seen can't be stupidity because they knew how to take care of themselves.

[@lisavanderpump7475]

A lot I'm sure sadly

[@kazzana9013]

I don't believe too many post mortems were preformed during the pandemic, especially after the vaccine roll out. They didn't want to know the harms that experimental drug caused and those effected are still fighting to get help.

[@alihenderson5910]

Millions💉💉💉

[@cathybassett6432]

Neighbor heard "blood curdling" screams and didn't call police!!!! What is wrong with her!! There are no words to describe the horror this woman is!

[@mtio2807]

Because she came forward and took pictures…..police opened the case

[@deniseelsworth7816]

It's far more common than you think.

[@darrylg3861]

Perhaps she will die a similar death. Not wishing it But it just might happen.

[@carnivorewitch]

She’s desensitized like most people