The Cowards: Vietnam Insane Asylum, William Whorton

[@kailaniandi]

The cowards are the people who sent them there.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@kailaniandi well said. Thank you.

[@zzbudzz]

Yes!!

[@johnconley1757]

I was a member of 1st Bde 5th Infantry Div.(MECH) CPT Blunt was a living legend to us. It was great to hear his name and story publicized by CPT Horton.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@johnconley1757 thank you for watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Great hearing from a fellow admirer of Captain Blunt. Thank you for making another contribution to his legend.

[@jonlanigan3439]

In February 1946, Ho Chi Minh sent a letter to President Truman asking for guidance. Truman ignored him. The whole Vietnam war could have been avoided, and Vietnam would have been a US ally.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@jonlanigan3439 thank you for this piece of history. And I appreciate you watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your comment. I believe there is a complexity to this war that is much deeper in scope than one letter. I have around a thousand books on the war in my library attesting to that reality. Again, thank you for taking your time to respond to our video.

[@jonlanigan3439]

@@WilliamSWhorton Truman allowed the French to oppress the Vietnamese, like the Germans did to the French. All the Vietnamese wanted was to be left alone.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

@@jonlanigan3439 There is a lot of truth in what you write. Thank you for your interest in our videos.

[@andersfant4997]

​​​​​​​​​​​​Ö​​​​​​​​​​​@@WilliamSWhortonUS wanted French support for the Nato project. George Kennan didnt write about "containment" until a few years later but there was already an awereness and a discussion in DOS about that "like minded allies" were important for America, so we didnt oppose the French position and its claims in Indochina🙂. How the French dealt with its colonies is a different subject, but big parts of french society actually supported the Vietnamese hope for liberation and independence, and regarding the comment above.. no, the French did not treat the Vietnamese like the Germans dealt with occupied teritories in WW2, thats simply not correct.

[@surftolivesurftodie5351]

My father (God rest his soul), Major-MACV-Phan Rang-68-69, said that the Hamlet Evaluation System was the most idiotic system ever developed for categorizing hamlets in South Vietnam as being "friendly" or "enemy". He would always say, "there is only one piece of criteria necessary and that is: does the district chief, village leader, etc. sleep in that hamlet come nighttime? If he does not, then that's a goddamn enemy controlled hamlet, period!"

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@surftolivesurftodie5351 wow, good point. Thank you for sharing!!!

[@WilliamSWhorton]

WOW!!! Your Father and I share a very strong similar opinion regarding the HES report. Your Father sounds like a great guy and a real soldier. God bless you and your Father. Thank you for your report of your Father's points of view.

[@johnnyrichard48]

That is exactly what a MACV Major, District Senior Advisor in I Corps told me in 1970. "The only question that matters is whether the Hamlet/Village Chief is sleeping in the Hamlet/Village. If not, all the rest is worthless." I replied, "Then why do you fill them out?" Calmly he stated, "Lieutenant, it's my career and I have to play this stupid game for the Saigon/Pentagon Computers boys." I never forgot this conversation.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

@@johnnyrichard48 Thank you for your wonderful comment. This is another great example of the permeation of mendacity throughout the system.

[@robertscheinost179]

Great stuff, I'm impressed with your videos. When a notification pops up on my screen, I have to watch. I'm catching up on your previous videos, Dr. Paul. Looking forward to the next one. Thanks for your hard work and time spent producing these excellent videos.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@robertscheinost179 Robert, thank you so much. Viewers like you keep me motivated. Truly. I appreciate you watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your encouragement and support. I deeply appreciate your time spent in commenting on our effort.

[@tomfilipiak3511]

The,common,guy,who went to Viet Nam,had no knowledge what so ever,of the politics,policies,and the known outcome of this war!We were called and answered the call!Wow,the utmost in insanity,but the common people on both side suffered so very much,why,why,and why,my God,why!Thomas A.Filipiak 1st Cavalry,Viet Nam 1967 1968!!!

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@tomfilipiak3511 Thomas, thank you sir….i appreciate your comment. God Bless.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your service in a truly great Army unit. I believe only God can answer your very profound question. For us, there is only a mystery.

[@testopatia106]

Its absolutely shattering to hear about all this going on. Thankyou for the great insight.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I agree that it is not a 'happy" story. However, it is a historical reality and an aspect of human nature and behavior that cannot be ignored. Thank you for sharing your feeling and making your comment.

[@CarterOnConflict]

Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@C.M.R.Artifacts-qu1ey]

Thank you for your service Sir, May God Bless you and your Family, I am awe struck by your time in Vietnam, thank you for bringing us the history and your experiences. Best Wishes, Take care, Sincerely

[@CarterOnConflict]

Thank you so much for watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you so very much for your kind thoughts and comments. You give us encouragement!

[@andersfant4997]

Great video. One can acknowledge two separate things: - Most American troops fought extremely well and courageosly. It was a generation as good as the "great" one. - But bad policies and restrictions created difficult situations on the ground. There is a site that lists 112 "Lost battles of the Vietnam war", from Ap Bac in 1964 to Koh Tang in 1975, it seem mostly correct with famous battles included: Camp Holloway, Dong Xoia, LZ Albany, Hill 875, Marble mountain, Plei Doc, Operation Hickory, LZ Hereford, Ong Thanh, Ho Bo Woods.., and so on. A country bold enough to call a spade a spade can learn and move on.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@andersfant4997 great post Anders. Thanks for informing us of such a site, I must visit and read. This is one I am ignorant on.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I truly appreciate your writing that our fighting honor and courage matched that of the "GREAT" generation. Thank you.

[@andersfant4997]

​​@@WilliamSWhortonEvery generation has a potential to be the Greatest.., its a reflexion of values in society, and an understanding that with American exceptionalism comes a responsibility🙂.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

@@andersfant4997 Your point is well-taken by me and I will meditate on it. Thank you for your comment.

[@gregwhitlock1913]

Nice stories, but didn't say why Arvn soldiers didn't fight

[@Danial-x3k]

Hi Captain I'm a Vietnamese who fought in the south for four years as a helicopter pilot when I was young, I had no idea who's South Vietnamese south Vietnamese people didn't understand north Vietnamese intention of the war. the north would do anything to get the south. Otherwise, they would starve to death US had no option but abandoned Vietnam estimated about three million people died in the Vietnam war, for nothing,

[@mtradingsgn]

LOL. This is a lie

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@Danial-x3k thank you for watching and commenting.

[@TerribleShmeltingAccident]

how do you figure they died for nothing? do you realize that we all die? hell one could argue that every human that has ever lived and ever will "died for nothing,..." what a tremendously short sided thing to say...

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@TerribleShmeltingAccident such as a terrible smelting accident, that sounds like a horrible way to die! Thank you for watching.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Your comment created a number of responses. I honor and respect your service to your country. However, I disagree with your 'dying for nothing" statement. Thank you for taking the time to express your opinion and make a comment.

[@davidlawitts2858]

Crazy footage! Incredible video

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your comment.

[@jbol2454]

Just came in for a 30 second preview to watch later.. could not stop watching!

[@CarterOnConflict]

He is captivating - ha, I call him on the phone just to listen to his stories. And thank you for watching and commenting.

[@jbol2454]

@@CarterOnConflict You are fortunate!

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@jbol2454 indeed I am. For years here in Thailand people would say to me, “have you ever met Bill Whorton?” So finally I said I must contact this guy, and a couple of years ago in Chiang Mai we had coffee. The rest is history…but we are all going to get great stories from him :-)

[@jbol2454]

@@CarterOnConflict Really great that you are making these videos with him, please make more. I love that he often discusses the psychological aspect of things at the time.

[@longshotny]

Great story telling! It's so important to document this history... for the future & all people (& AI) 2 learn for progress💪🏿💪🏿

[@crispusattucks4007]

Fantastic video

[@Walkercolt1]

I was in Hell in 1974. As a USAF RADAR tech, I was in ONE firefight. I never saw, met, or HEARD of a coward, BUT I saw a "long time" Marine DISSOLVE in front my eyes. We looked around at each other and "whispered" HOW MUCH CAN I TAKE??? Even hard-core NVA Regulars would drop their weapons and run like hell in a napalm strike, and TRUST me, those little slopes were BRAVE, TOUGH and fearless!

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@Walkercolt1 Walker, thanks for sharing your story. I really appreciate it. God Bless you.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I believe you had a very interesting tour in Vietnam. I hope your memories and reflections are mostly ones you can use positively to gain wisdom in living your life. Thank you for your comment.

[@miketalas7998]

I was born in 1963, and I grew up watching the news on Vietnam's War. Many times I would ask my mom who was an Army WAC before I was born, I would ask her "Mom why are those guys smoking that cigarette at the end of a stick?!?!?! And she would tell me because their hands are all dirty with mud, and it would soggy the cigarette.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@miketalas7998 I smiled. What a wise response to an inquisitive child. Thank you for sharing that :-)

[@lllordllloyd]

This man is fascinating. We are all listeniing to this imagining ourselves to be like Blunt, or perhaps questioning like Captain Whorton. But reality shows it is much easier to find people to tow the line, Lt-Cols who only want to hear they're winning the war. Folks to do that Hamlet Evaluation System report. We should do our best to be like Captain Blunt.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@lllordllloyd yes Lloyd. Indeed. You know, I really appreciate your channel support. You post and comment a lot. It motivates me to keep putting up good stories. Bill has alot in him, we will keep them coming.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I agree to a certain extent. However, Captain Blunt's way is a very hard road. For example, What would have happened to him if my MARINE friend/classmate had not decided we should help Blunt? The Chief-of-Staff was impressed that it was the MARINE element of the class that approached him to save Blunt from courts-martial. We never told Blunt what we did.

[@lllordllloyd]

@@WilliamSWhorton ... and I admire you for it. It is interesting how your story echos so closely that of individuals from high in the US government who, ten years earlier, found it difficult to counter the orthodoxy of the 'wise men' like McNamara. Blunt's road was and is a hard one, and it is not always possible to be like that. My own experience, perhaps a weak analogy, is as a union member in a badly managed workplace. Thank you for these videos sir, they are a valuable primary source.

[@drlawitts]

Dang this is amazing

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@drlawitts good stuff sir

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your interest and comment.

[@roaddog7793]

You cannot make people free that will not fight for that freedom

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@roaddog7793 so true. Great point. Thank you.

[@bogenious8474]

I think land ownership to the peasants by the south viet government would have gone a long way to compelling them to fight , but the government was so corrupt

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@bogenious8474 thank you for watching and commenting.

[@cyclone8974]

@@bogenious8474 Myth: Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist and a benevolent leader of his people Fact: Ho Chi Minh was a dedicated communist and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of his fellow countrymen. Ho Chi Minh was a founding member of the French Communist Party in 1920 and founded the IndoChinese Communist Party in 1930. He spent four years training in Russia and became a member of the Comintern. He was not just a member of the Comintern. He was the protege of Dmitry Manuilsky, right hand man to both Stalin and Lenin. He was a dedicated Stalinist who never swayed from his desire to forward the cause of international communism. He turned his fellow countrymen over to the French for money and to eliminate his rivals while consolidating his power. He "purged" the North Vietnamese landowner class, killing at least 50,000 (some estimates are as high as 900,000!) of them for the "crime" of being financially independent. He slaughtered and imprisoned hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen in the South in an effort to rid himself of all opposition.

[@Skidoodle555]

@@cyclone8974Some say Ho Chi Minh asked the United States for help, but was refused. Your characterization of Ho leaves little doubt of Ho Chi Minh’s intentions and actions.

[@tonylittle8634]

Like most conflicts, the real conflict is with our own leaders.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@tonylittle8634 oh, well said! Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@tonylittle8634]

@@CarterOnConflict awesome channel and content. As a veteran it’s nice to see that my thoughts aren’t isolated or far fetched. I’m not alone

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@tonylittle8634 Tony, I’m heartened by your comment. Thank you so much.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I deeply appreciate your comment. Thank you.

[@carverbob54]

Another great instalment. Wonderful information in this one! Speaking truth to power is a career killer, and few, unless they are completely disgusted, will do after they know how 'the system' works. Personal thank you to Mr. Whorton in advance of reading 'The Bhagavad Gita - Lord Krishna's Sacred Teachings on the Battlefield of Life' next on my reading list after I finish The Devil's Chessboard. Flying via Dulles will never be the same.....

[@CarterOnConflict]

Ha, Bob, you are prolific! So good to hear from you.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I hope you enjoy the "BHAGAVAD GITA". I wrote about war along with doing the translation. I worked with a great Teacher/"Master" on this translation for 24-years to extinguish completely my PTSD. It was a beautiful experience and I hope you have a wonderful experience in studying it.

[@carverbob54]

@@WilliamSWhorton - Going to bust into it today; need a break from Dulles....a great Thai saying that captures when delusional leadership will listen to truth 'chaat naa dhorn bai bai....

[@pikiwiki]

"they're learning to love democracy, they're learning to love Jesus"

[@cjthebeesknees]

Disgusting, imagine saying that but your enforcing it by the sword, is that what God wants?

[@dougc9427]

Semper Fi Sir, Retired USMC MSgt

[@WilliamSWhorton]

And SEMPER FI to you Sergeant Major! Thank you for your MARINE greeting!

[@xxxxxx-tq4mw]

Those were crazy times ! the government was drafting 30,000 swinging d***s monthly and they conscripted my @$$ on 03/04/1968

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@xxxxxx-tq4mw ha - thank you for sharing and watching!!!!

[@malcolmbliss777]

No occupation in the history of the world has ever succeeded for any appreciable amount of time. If we as Americans expect our right to self determination, why can’t we respect other’s right to self determination?

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@malcolmbliss777 well, can’t argue with that. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Nothing much more can be said. Thank you for your, in my opinion, very wise comment.

[@farmind6582]

No sugar coating with this guy, he should comment on the now Ukraine mess, would like to know his opinion. “ We are winning the war” party line no deviation allowed!

[@CarterOnConflict]

Ha, he is something else. Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you enjoy other videos too: www.youtube.com/@CarterOnConflict/videos

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your comment. Time changes but human nature doesn't.

[@farmind6582]

@@WilliamSWhorton thank you for the reply, very much appreciate your presentations, I am sure there is much more, if only more people listen to the man on the ground the world would be a very different place, I am a Cornishman, you mentioned Col Hal Moore, Rick Rescola was from my county, singing the Cornish songs on the battle fields! Best wishes to you.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

@@farmind6582 Your comment on Rick Riscola is wonderful. Thank you for taking time to respond and your support.

[@andersfant4997]

"Ukraine".. A majority of patrioric Vietnam-war veterans probably feel that America let is ally South Vietnam down. Ukraine is an important ally today, and if Ukraine cant stop Russia, then Nato must do the job in a not so far future. Support for Ukraine is a cheap way to protect the freedom of the western world. There is a new axle of evil out there, Russia, China, Iran, North Korea. Isolationalism threatens and weakens America, and its at odds with the ideals and the responsibility that made America the shining city on the hill🙂.

[@jafo766]

In the Pantheon of Warriors , this Marine exists with the finest known , the Col. Hal Moore's , the Capt. Michael Thornton's , the PFC Dan Bullock's and so many other fine men who's stories stay locked inside a Black Granite Wall never to be heard.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@jafo766 wow, well said sir

[@WilliamSWhorton]

WOW!! Your thoughtful and beautiful remark is beyond my capability to respond. Thank you so very much.

[@jafo766]

@@WilliamSWhorton Again Sir you have earned every accolade this keyboard can muster , it's an honor to communicate with you. Thx Mike

[@WilliamSWhorton]

@@jafo766 Thank you for your very kind thought and remark.

[@nelsonjv1]

The master stroke of the Tet offensive was the siege of Keh Sanh. It brought to the north Americas most powerful units in the hopes of a set piece battle which is what Westmoreland had been trying to achieve for so long. It left the south less protected and the rest is history.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@nelsonjv1 Nelson, thanks for this. I appreciate you watching and sharing.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your comment. Regarding the final collapse you may want to study further about that by examining the contents of the Paris Peace Accords signed January 27, 1973. You can form your own opinion regarding causes of the final collapse.

[@davep153]

Very smart man, those are not easy languages by themselves.😳

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@davep153 Dave, thank you for watching and commenting!

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your comment. I will say that language learning for me is very difficult and I work hard studying and practicing.

[@HEAVYDRAGON72]

My Dad said they ran away right in the middle of a fight.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@HEAVYDRAGON72 thanks for watching and posting. Who was it that ran?

[@thomassullivan410]

Damn we sure could have used you your a good man sir. Welcome home.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@thomassullivan410 he is indeed Thomas, and I appreciate you watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your very kind comment. I deeply appreciate it.

[@stevemcelmury4618]

Is there an EDITOR in the house?

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@stevemcelmury4618 ha ha ha - not a professional one. :-) thanks for watching Steve…

[@sugarpuddin]

Magnificent! A lot to unpack - I played it a twice. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Prior to TET the US Government had been vehemently claiming they were winning. In contrast to their rosy picture, TET was a shock to the system! Lying was how the Vietnam war was managed by the Generals and politicians. It was known as early as 1963 the USA could not win that war (without invading Hanoi). In 1967, General McChristian who collated all intelligence materials and prepared reports wrote that statistics proved the USA could not win the war even if they had indefinite amounts of time. He cited things like attrition, etc. The Joint Chiefs of Staff, William Westmorelan etc etc, changed his figures. At the time appx 30K NVA's were moving down the Ho Chi Min trail per month (they lied and changed the number to like 4K or something); and I forget his number for how many already in South Vietnam. This kinda lying is nothing new. Regarding the Egyptian campaign, the French forces under Napoleon left Egypt & ultimately surrendered at Alexandria in total defeat. And yet Napoleon sent his spin-doctors up to France to paint a fable of their total victory over the Egyptians. To be sure, the first casualty of war is “truth”! Sadly, the USA has been at continual war for all but 17 years since its inception in 1776. Anything told to us by politicians or their captured media is non-truth. "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981) Blunt would have gotten cooked if he didn’t have others to stand up with him. My advice to young people, having made so many mistakes in life, having stood up and told truth: Don’t do it! Not unless you know just how deep the fraud goes; AND you have strong people by your side! From my experience, as a physician and entrepreneur working in and for the big hospitals in NYC, the fraud, the conspiracy, goes clear up to the top: The COO, the Wall Street Bankers that now own all the hospitals. I saw how they put patsy’s in there - like Lee Harvey Oswald - to take the blame if anyone started noticing fraud and missing money. The patsy would be fired, and everyone told to keep quiet so it doesn’t affect the stock price. And if you were the one who was unlucky and courageous enough to point the fraud out before it came to light, now you are going to be the first to be fired! Because it goes all the way to the top! Think twice, and seek excellent legal counsel BEFORE you say anything! But I digress. “Do you people have any understanding of human nature whatsoever…?” Those in ivory towers were taught to consult spread sheets and statistics, not humanity. There is no cell in a spread sheet to account for ‘humanity’ - the thing Robert Strange McNamara solely relied upon to strategize his war. The only thing that mattered in his mind were “numbers”, (attrition rates). This is the same foolish man that ran Ford Motors most unsuccessful investment (blunder): the Edsel! [1] Blessings from Nature Island. [1] “Disaster in Dearborn: The story of the Edsel”, Thomas Bonsall; “The Insolent Chariots”, John Keats; “The Hidden Persuaders”, Vance Packard.

[@CarterOnConflict]

Wow, such a thoughtful response. So much to unpack here, all interesting. Thank you for sharing your insights.

[@tomfilipiak3511]

Sounds,sir a lot like Trump,and other politicions,same old same old,Old men send young men to DIE!Thomas A.Filipiak Viet Nam 1967 1968!

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your comment. I deeply appreciate you taking time to make it.

[@BenEthridge]

Wars a Racket written by Gen Smedley Butler, read it... Gday

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@BenEthridge We have. Bill has the hard copy, I prefer PDF.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I confirm that my hard copy of General Butler's classic is getting a bit worn from multiple readings.

[@galesams4205]

IN country in 1969, 4th inf div ARMOR M-48 51 ton good for 30MPH, draging 2, 51 russian heavy Machine guns, that were knocking COBRA gun-ships out of the air.

[@Robert-eg2oy]

You are half way through your presentation and still haven’t hit on the subject. “. Why the South Vietnamese could not or would not fight “. I was there 65-66, and I wanted to get your take on the South Vietnamese army, but I got nothing from your presentation.

[@CarterOnConflict]

I suppose it’s reasonable to expect answers, but Bill is simply telling his frustrations as a young warrior stuck in a conflict.

[@CarterOnConflict]

Try these two videos sir: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6PVXnprZbd6d6s and kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIuZk4F4esp9fs0

[@WilliamSWhorton]

There is a new video coming out today to deal with at least part of your question. I will talk with Paul about putting together a video dealing specifically with your question about the South Vietnamese Army. It is a very complicated topic. In the meantime, I strongly recommend a wonderful book that will help you in your search to answer your question. This book is, "VIETNAM LABYRINTH: Allies, Enemies, & Why The U.S. Lost The War" by Tran Ngoc Chau with Ken Fermoyle. I got my copy on Amazon. Thank you for your profound question and taking time to make a comment.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

Because the South Vietnamese were more "Vietnamese" than Western

[@rudolphguarnacci197]

The answer is multi-faceted, but it comes down to this: they did not have the political will to fight or to win. If you look at Viet Nam it was a country that was artificially divided by a referendum which was supposed to sunset after a second referendum to be held later. This never occurred and the reason which i can only guess is the question that needs to be answered. I was given a book to read over 40 years ago published by the John Birch Society (take what you want from that). What has remained with me was in the beginning of the book they present a scenario where a page from the strategy of a combatant government floats down in front of a soldier on the battlefield. What would a soldier in the middle of a firefight do if he read it? He would probably lose his mind. I am just a light weight with giants like this in the room: you, the content creator, the featured speaker. I have dedicated a large part of my life trying to understand why this war happened since i was 18. It was then i realized had i been born 10 years earlier i would have been in it, a grunt in the field, and probably killed. I began with first-hand accounts: Frederick Downs' The Killing Zone, Everything We Had, Chickenhawks, The Tunnels of Cu Chi, etc., evolving to reading officer accounts that focused on tactics. A friend gave me her copy of Fire in the Lake. It was looking at the war from a political perspective. It was then i began to understand that wars are won or lost because of a combatant's political will to win. You can have the greatest armies, weapons, soldiers, but you will not win if you don't have the political will.

[@boringdude1626]

My favorite insane asylum I've heard in the war would have to be CCN. Ha ha ha.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@boringdude1626 ha, thanks boring dude :-)

[@gregorybrennan8539]

Americans were told what to think about TET by our left-wing college professors who came to America when they ran from -itler, AND THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE TOLD. Thank you for your hard work. Im am going to keep watching.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@gregorybrennan8539 thank you for watching and commenting Gregory

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I encourage you to watch our video regarding TET-68. In this video I note that an official U.S. Army History book, shown on the video, states that after TET-68 there never was mentioned again, officially, the phrase "military victory" (in Vietnam). "Peace with Honor" became the new phrase. Thank you for your opinion and comment.

[@64maxpower]

If I ask the time I'm thinking I'm going instructions how to build a watch

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@64maxpower that’s one of my favorite sayings. Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@johnmoreno9636]

So the part I am trying to reconcile is that at no time did the people of South Vietnam want a Communist victory. Every time the Communists were advancing massive numbers of civilians would flee. Ho Chi Minh's basic premise behind 1968's Tet Offensive was that the People would rise up against the Americans - didn't happen anywhere. The Communists were able to have local Shadow Governments because they assassinated any Government official who was too efficient or did not go along with their presence. That is why the Viet Cong were so scared of the Phoenix program, which assassinated people suspected of being VC. When Nixon implemented Vietnamization, the 1972 Easter Offensive battles like An Loc were fiercely fought by the ARVN - and between ARVN ground forces and US airpower the NVA were crushed. The ARVN also fought in 1968 Hue tooth and nail like the Marines. There were highly regarded ARVN units. One of my big questions was whether the average ARVN unit was not great because the soldiers did not care, or the officers were too corrupt, or the US did not train and equip them fully until Nixon's Vietnamization Program. For instance, they were never given the air force the Americans had. Given that Capt. Whorton was an ARVN advisor, I wanted his thoughts on this topic. For instance, I can understand villagers being afraid of supporting Americans because at night the VC would come and kill them. But in more secure areas like Saigon, did the average Vietnamese hate the American troops as much as out in the unsecured countryside? I thought the Marines' Stay in and Protect the Villages and Let the NVA have the nasty jungles was working much better than the US Army's Search and Destroy missions.

[@johnmoreno9636]

Most of the popular books squarely place the blame on the Joint Chiefs and Westmoreland, who failed to create a strategy to stop the flow of NVA reinforcements to South Vietnam, or conversely a strategy that would clear land and hold it (another basic tenant of CounterInsurgency). That is why I like Colonel Summer's book On Strategy. Create a DMZ from the South China Sea to Thailand. Use US troops to blast anybody trying to breach it (which is what the US Army does best), and use the ARVN to fight the insurgency. While Americans could not tell, my Vietnamese friends say it is not hard to tell the difference between people from North and South Vietnam, even today.

[@johnmoreno9636]

But in the Politically Incorrect Guide to the Vietnam War, he puts the blame on the anti-war Congress of 1974, who in cutting off aid to South Vietnam doomed millions of Cambodians and Vietnamese to death in the aftermath of 1975. Given the ARVN victories of 1972, I think he has a good point. Interesting, while this book changed my mind on several aspects of the Vietnam War, his Politically Incorrect Guide to the US Civil War I completely disagreed with.

[@CarterOnConflict]

John, Bill and I have talked about what informed, thoughtful questions and comments you pose. I’m going to defer to him on these. I always enjoy reading your very intelligent and articulate posts. Bill will respond.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

As a result of important questions such as yours and other viewers on these issues, there will be another video done this Tuesday and put out shortly after that. There are a very complicated set of situations, conditions, and issues involved necessary for examination. I hope I will be able to provide you with more information about the interesting questions you have raised.

[@markpaul-ym5wg]

Truth is when your comment is erased.

[@CarterOnConflict]

It could be truth. Or it could be such a blatant insult where insults don’t belong.

[@markpaul-ym5wg]

@CarterOnConflict Dr. Carter,I never meant for it to be an insult.But one wonders why the U.S. continued on for 10 years, getting nowhere using the same tactics.Towards the end of the war the U.S. soldiers could not fire at enemy troops unless fired upon first.Trying to run the war from the oval office was not a good idea.Thank you for your reply.

[@richardelias2674]

Semper Fi Capt., 3/5, 68-69.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@richardelias2674 thank you for watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I was 3/5 late 1959 to early 1961. Your years were much tougher than mine. SEMPER FI MARINE! Thank you for your comment.

[@t.r.l.4377]

Its about winning, its about selling!

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@t.r.l.4377 :-) thank you sir

[@Arnold-m9h]

This guy is something else. I was in country 68 to 69. Listening to this character does not make sense. How much training do you have to now . The people were trained to kill us. What the hell is he talking about. I was in an AHC (assault helicopter company) listening to him does not sound like he was there. What is the point of what he is talking about.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@Arnold-m9h thank you for your comment

[@rwjr1944]

[@duchuynh3696]

You told a lie ,without any proof to showing

[@spitfeueranna]

I don't get it, didn't they realize... they weren't in South Carolina? Or Texas? Or Nebraska? Or California? What are you doing carrying automatic rifles inside someone else's country... Surely you had to ask yourself, are we the baddies?

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@spitfeueranna thank you for watching and commenting

[@THEDISAFFECTED]

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@THEDISAFFECTED can I get a prayer?

[@CarterOnConflict]

Amen!

[@allencouncell4468]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@allencouncell4468 thank you for watching !

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I appreciate your response.

[@chaseroberts3111]

It's tough when you realize we were the bad guys in that war.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I think this is a very interesting topic and worthy of discussion and consideration in another video. Please 'STAY TUNED"!

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@chaseroberts3111 thank you for watching and commenting.

[@andersfant4997]

​​​​​@@WilliamSWhorton 95-98% of American soldiers behaved with honor and respect, boys were turned into admirable men👍. And there was a strong case for US involvment in SEA. The outliers happend when ledarship failed (My Lai, Tiger force during its later years). And when the polices were crazy (Phoenix program). A comment about My Lai, I talked to a proud Marine about it, and he said there is no chance in hell a Marine unit would have done those atrocities..

[@ronjohnson5070]

But did he hear a Who?

[@CarterOnConflict]

I hear “what’s” sometimes, but I don’t think that counts.

[@murrayterry834]

sounds like hillary clinton and the bushes ,cheeneys trying to run things today.

[@jackshaftoe1715]

WHY DIE FOR OLIGARCHS ?

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@jackshaftoe1715 thank you for commenting. I don’t know. What is your answer sir?

[@jackshaftoe1715]

@@CarterOnConflict I'm no general/admiral. I believe that we/ The United States were in Nam so as to eventually gain access to Cam Ranh bay. Harbor a fleet in typhoon season. Cut China trade routes...

[@matthewbyam3248]

I know one thing: You're lucky someone doesn't $hoot you for that shirt. 😂😅😂

[@WilliamSWhorton]

It is a style of shirt very popular in Thailand. Thank you for asking but nobody here will shoot me for wearing it! Thank you for your comment.

[@PopupH88terILoveJuice-iz7sx]

so this video is starting by asking why we were losing the war by the end of it the takeaway i got was that we were saying we were winning so often that we were not prepared for any setbacks when they did occur this is not an adequate explanation

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@PopupH88terILoveJuice-iz7sx thank you for watching and commenting. This videos purpose was not to examine why the US was losing the war, Whorton was simply sharing his thoughts of why he wanted to return. Never is there any intent to explain anything about why we lost the war.

[@PopupH88terILoveJuice-iz7sx]

@@CarterOnConflict i am looking for that video on why we lost does it exist?

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@PopupH88terILoveJuice-iz7sx there is no video we have done that attempts to answer the question why we lost. Whorton says in a couple of videos that his motivation to return to Vietnam the second time was to learn better why we were losing. Why the U.S. gave up on and pulled out of Vietnam has been adequately covered as you probably know by hundreds (thousands?) of articles and books.

[@PopupH88terILoveJuice-iz7sx]

@@CarterOnConflict what is the name of the book that gives the right answer to the question?

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@PopupH88terILoveJuice-iz7sx kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIuZk4F4esp9fs0 I - and many folk much smarter than I - think this was the key. I did a video on it, you will honestly learn alot.

[@JustSomeGoy]

It was a French failure we joined, the patriotic Vietnamese had been winning their land back for 20-30 years already

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@JustSomeGoy we joined a French failure. Well said. Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

I like your comment about "20-30 years already". Thank you for expressing your opinion.

[@danielconquer909]

War is organized murder, nothing more - harry patch, one of the last surviving ww1 veterans

[@jafo766]

WAR I$ A RACKET ! Gen. $medly WWI

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@danielconquer909 yes. Man’s curse.

[@WilliamSWhorton]

@@jafo766 I treasure my copy of "WAR IS A RACKET"!!

[@WilliamSWhorton]

In my videos, I mention several times that I do not believe Professional Soldiering is a moral profession. It cannot be a moral profession because in our LEGAL system we are subject to unconditioally obedience to LEGAL ORDERS from politicians. What is the state of morality for politicians?

[@mikederasmo7621]

the only cowards in every war are those in the REar with the gear AND bull crap policies,

[@CarterOnConflict]

@@mikederasmo7621 rear with the gear :-) thank you for watching and commenting!

[@WilliamSWhorton]

Thank you for your comment.