The Cowards Way of Winning a Duel Was Surprisingly Effective (HEMA Alliance and L.A.D Fencing)

Before becoming illegal, duels were a popular way to settle disagreements. So what was the most effective way to make sure you won the duel?
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The real dirty technique is to throw the pommel and end them rightly.

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[@ms.centurion9708]

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When it comes to a fight for your life the only one considering such a move as cheating is the one losing.

[@sluggaboyzWC3]

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[@AlexBrown230]

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[@ryanredacted6799]

Master how does one counter the such honorable technique of *Boop*

[@tomfordgunningham465]

It is impossible feat

[@brendonpearce14]

No such counter exists

[@smeqwack7337]

Not from a jedi...

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[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Because I know a fair bit about plate armor: there were four effective ways to beat someone wearing plate armor. From worst to best, there was: poleaxe, which is a axe head, warhammer back, and pointy tip, all stuck onto a big stick, and is notable for being able to cleave unarmored men in half, or give someone in platemail a concussion. Unfortunately, most men in platemail had pollaxes of there own, or similarly long weapons, so yeah. Next was the lance. A lance is just a very big stick, which you brace against yourself whilst on horseback, charging straight at the bastard. Such a charge could have more kinetic energy that a .50bmg round, and could break the ribs of someone in platemail (energy transfer being what it is, there's a lot less penetration that a bullet, hence the lack of skewering). Unfortunately, such a charge is not only obvious, but easily met by someone else with a lance, or possibly just a pike. The next most effective was a dagger. Rather than trying to bludgeon them through the armor, just grapple the bastard and stab his armpits, or his groin. This is very effective, but they can use a dagger against you in the grapple, or just kill you before you get within grappling distance. The most effective method was, of course, to find 7 friends, all attack the dude at once, and physically restrain them by having one dude grabbing each limb. Then bludgeon the dude to death. Or capture him and get that sweet ransom money.

[@EvilFookaire]

The last one reminds me of a movie scene from the 1980's... I can't remember the movie, was sort of a parodie on different historic era's and I think it had some big stars of the time in it. One bit of that movie had what must've been a parody on Robin Hood, with this obvious rogue-ish guy with a dagger and a bow, talking to his father (who had been a crusader) about taking on one of those dastardly vile noblemen. His father trying to talk him out of it, saying "Son, you are young, you have a whole life but it will be short if you choose to fight a man in full armor who wields the best swords." - to which the rogue-ish guy replies, "he might don the best armor and wield the best sword, but I wield ten drunken friends eager for a scrap." When it came to the fight, yep, ten drunk bastards dragged off what looked like a wildly flailing tin man from one of those old "Wizard of Oz"-type movies.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

@@EvilFookaire that sounds like a great movie, and yes, that's exactly how it would go down.

[@Klomster88]

To be fair the plate armour dude if any good at all would nail one or perhaps two of your pals. But yeah serious outnumbering is a good bet. But only if you have aggressiveness. If you hold back and don't all move in. You're dead. But keep powering through and you win in this case. Minus a friend or two.

[@233Deadman]

don't forget the method so effective people stopped wearing it: Firearms.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

@@233Deadman well, not really. To start plate could stop bullets, and even those which could penetrate were stopped by the gambeson underneath. Even during the tudor era plate was being made which could completely stop bullets (admitly that armor was extremely heavy, and thus not suitable for combat on foot) and during the Napoleonic wars plate was being made for some unit's of cavalry (specifically heavy cavalry units) which whilst it would normally be penetrated by musket shots, the wearer would normally be unharmed. Unless a second musket ball went through the existing hole, or the plate deteriorated after several shots and didn't put up as much resistance to any other incoming shots. During WW1 the Italians made suits of plate armor which could survive withering fire from infantry rifles and machine guns, although these would also deteriorate after sustained fire, and Large caliber mounted machine guns and artillery fire could still kill the wearer despite the armor. Also in WW1, it was noted that after being issued metal helmets, the number of head injuries increased, as the metal was generally sufficient to prevent a bullet from killing the wearer if struck. In the modern era, we have ballistic vests which can take shots from .50 BMG rounds, and if desired those vests could be expanded to cover all the same areas as full plate armor, although the weight would be abhorant, and is technically closer to brigandine, which is similar to full plate in that it's metal body armor, but is formed of several small sections for each component, riveted together and covered in fabric rather than larger plates. It also tends to have less coverage due to it's construction not allowing the same coverings between the arms and legs and the torso.

[@FurryGram]

Plate armor didn't make you invincible, just practically immune to cutting attacks. That's why they had warhammers and polearms, so that if someone in plate armor needed a good curb-stomping they could just pound the armor hard enough to break bones and crush ribs until all that was left was a screaming heap of metal and pain

[@lbryant2261]

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[@cameronfink7325]

That and the fight between Inigo and count Rugen

[@samuelmmmk181]

I like the part where that man got stretched until he lost years of life

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We are men of action, lies do not become us.

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The best movie swordfight was the one that Bob Anderson choreographed. It basically doesn't matter which great movie sword fight you pick. He did it.

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[@Kaiofm]

Man, my HEMA club got this fame of being the dishonorable shady one in our region for the most pathetic reason. Mind, I’m from Brazil in a city settled by the Japanese. city is pretty much half japanese half literally anything else; it is filled with dojos of all kinds, especially kendo ones; in which most of them, if you’re not japanese, you can’t enter. For this reason, a lot of non japanese gathered to practice HEMA, most of us for fun, but we have our share of well intentioned try hards, which became our “trainers”. So, one day we are training and some 15 or so japanese fellas arrive, all dressed up in their hakamas and wielding their bokens all smug and snickering at our practice. They came to “challenge” us, but by “challenge” they were clearly implying they would put us on our place. We were intimidated for sure, they seemed to know what they are doing and and we were just a bunch of friends having fun at a public park, but man their attitude, it pissed most of us off to a point that we accepted even for the slight chance of shutting them up. Our “trainers” set with them duel rules basically based on age and practice levels. The duels were a disaster. Every. Single. Time. The kendo guys would just raise their bokken way up high, scream, and lunge foward. All of us from hema just stepped aside, parried or straight up stocked them. And every. Single. Time. The kendo guys would scream bloody murder that we were breaking the rules and doing unhonorable moves. It got to a point that we almost all forgot our fake swords and went straight into fist fighting. However, our trainers mustered some cold blood and “”conceded”” defeat, even though we had won absolutely all the fights, even with our most new members against some guys that clearly had some practice. After this duel this 15 or so guys went to every single other dojo and accused us of practicing only low blows and dishonorable things, and the fame stuck with us. We quite don’t mind actually, it is a mix of funny and sad, but we still train and our group still thrives, so all is good.

[@Klomster88]

Lulz. I know exactly the type of move you are thinking about. I've tried Kendo once, i've tried HEMA once or twice and i've run SCA heavy many many times, 10 years or so. Kendo is really odd, Kendo is very much a sport since you are only allowed to do certain things and then you are supposed to shout out the moves you are doing so the judges can judge their execution and accuracy. Then after landing the blow you are supposed to move a certain distance past your opponent and scream while doing it. Kendo is really odd. You can learn proper swordfighting techniques in Kendo, you also learn some (but far from all) Kenjitsu, which is a way more "respectable" martial art (dunno what word to use, real? historical?). But Kendo is really weird. My primary memory of trying Kendo was that my feet hurt so much i wanted to cry because you fight barefoot for some reason and my feet suck. And i did really really well since i playfought with swords when i was a kid and didn't really dare shout out my moves since i was shy. So i was like block all the attacks by the opponent, try my best to do the weird scream and shuffle. Point is. Kendo is a sport. That's fine. People who claim Kendo is a martial art are wrong. You can argue Kenjitsu to be a martial art, that's fine, i know to little of it to judge it. But Kendo is a sport. And in sports there are often very odd rules. Rules to control and steer the sport into being what the practitioners want to test. For example if football didn't have no touch ball, it would turn into rugby. I don't like Kendo, because my feet hurt when i hear the name. And i totally see why your club Caio wrecked their shit with HEMA. Since if their club was super rigid with their Kendo rules, they will have zero idea how to swordfight, but be great at Kendo. But Kendo is a sport.

[@Kaiofm]

@@Klomster88 oh, that is interesting. We knew they had super strict rules but I had no idea the shouting and the regulated moves had an intention of evaluating the moves from the judges. Very interesting. Thanks!

[@Klomster88]

@@Kaiofm Might be different between clubs, but the one i tried was super weird with the movements and the rules. So since that's how i tried it, that's how i know it. But yeah, Kendo is super weird.

[@DrDeathpwnsu]

@@Kaiofm Yeah that's funny. From what you said and what he said it sounds like those dudes just straight up made fools of themselves. Shows you what people can get away with just by projecting confidence. Not only did these clown's get whipped, they got whipped while participating in their own delusion, and they're still able to convince you guys maybe YOU did something wrong? Maybe that kind of social engineering is the real Kendo...

[@tanzolimbu2982]

So what u're saying is a bunch of kendo swordsmen came to a HEMA club for a challenge & got destroyed but complained because u guys weren't playing by THEIR rules? Maybe u guys had formalities to respect that u haven't mentioned but I don't see a reason to argue there. Its a HEMA club not a kendo club, there is no reason why u had to follow their rules. A boxer can't go challenge someone from any other martial arts & start complaining its not fair cuz they're kicking.

[@Dasbelg]

"I'm taking a picture with this broadsword" shows picture of him with a long sword. Also that guy realy wasted his time by training some fancy move to kil a more skilled oponent. He should have just tossed his pommel at the guy to end him rightly. Every body knows that.

[@ms.centurion9708]

Did you say, end them rightly, I’ve got a buddy that kills people with his pommel Sincerely, Mr. Centurion

[@Wambarina]

Requires a threaded blade, rare to nearly non existent back then as swords were made with full tang 😉

[@BeOtterMyFriend]

@@Wambarina Still to be found in contemporary sources... Still mucch discussion about what it's supposed to tell us and whether it's supposed to just be a joke, afaik. Not really my area of expertise, though, the longsword. More of a dagger dude.

[@RyanRad01]

HEMA doesn’t need a dark version because it’s already the medieval martial art

[@snorlax6691]

I dunno... it might be useful to learn those classic black knight techniques like standing in front of a bridge shouting “You shall not pass!”

[@Poldovico]

@@snorlax6691 That's a Gandalf technique, for Black Knights you want "none shall pass!"

[@snorlax6691]

@@Poldovico Ah yes! That’s right... see, that’s why we need those Black Knight lessons!

[@HepCatJack]

@@snorlax6691 wasn't that a Little John technique ?

[@jamieirvine6019]

Might sound Dumb but did anyone else find it really refreshing that he said where the money was going and how much it was?

[@Woodlandjackass]

Kinda reminds me of this quote from Bruce lee “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times"

[@LunchThyme]

There is a dark HEMA alliance, but there's only allowed to be two members.

[@marcusrauch4223]

Always two there are, no more, no less. One to hold the power, and one to crave it.

[@EvilFookaire]

Ah, the darth-k HEMA club... haven't they been extinct for a millenium?

[@HaloInverse]

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jarnac the Wise?

[@xtremefps_]

@@HaloInverse I thought not. It's not a story Americans would tell you. It's a French legend.

[@matthieuduchemin6657]

Great video! Some extra fun details: In french language a "coup de Jarnac" (a Jarnac strike) became a name for a deadly and unexpected attack. I.e a sucker punch. Also, that duel was the last legal public duel (authorised by the king of France) due to the king being moved by the death of de Vivonne.

[@blaster23456]

To be fair, the Viper could have killed the Mountain, but the Viper got cocky and monologued for too long.

[@SockDrawerDemon]

And The Mountain did still die later in the week

[@SockDrawerDemon]

@@TheRealNormanBates And picking slow poison

[@Egilhelmson]

Someone should have watched The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly. When you need to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.

[@isaiahhope5560]

Funnily enough, you're seeing a similar technique becoming more common place in MMA today with the Low Calf Kick.

[@isaiahhope5560]

@@Specialistkay The thing is it's difficult to land against someone with a more Muay Thai stance vs people with a more boxing/karate stance. The issue with a May Thai stance is that your hips are a bit easier to get to. Sooo to be honest idk. At this point it's about sacrificing one for another.

[@whodatboi2567]

@@Specialistkay probably will just have to move your legs back and dodge it. Eventually the low calf kick could be a high risk; high reward move since missing could leave you overextended and out of position.

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HEMA gets known all around the world HEMAglobin

[@Version0111]

8:33 I'm picturing the montage in Rocky 3 when Clubber Lang and Rocky were preparing for their first fight.

[@KingOfMadCows]

In war, there is nothing more honorable than victory. - Word, Son of Mogh

[@artyomfarris7187]

OH MY GOD THEY'RE COVERING HEMA!!! I'm so glad people are starting to talk about it more 😊

[@Baronstone]

No, the only reason the Viper lost is that he got stupid. Had he just backed off and taunted the Mountain from a distance while the poison he used on the Mountain killed him, he would have survived just fine.

[@233Deadman]

He really wanted that confession though, especially with all those witnesses.

[@G41st-Jester]

Which he got and still nothing happened

[@richard9484]

The viper lost because it was written that way

[@MrCurstesy]

Even though your profile picture is super tiny on my phone, I instantly recognized that drawing of Lan. Nice.

[@johnroberts3496]

You must embrace the dark side to learn the forbidden moves

[@michellebyrom6551]

Indeed. Knowing them us not the same as using them. If you're unprepared for all possible moves, you're clearly not an expert and can expect to die. Eventually.

[@aristeraaristera]

Princess bride sword fight. You killed my father. Prepare to die." Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.

[@johnutsler1517]

Stop saying that!

[@jamesmason3348]

The single best sword fight in a film, ever.

[@szepi79]

@@jamesmason3348 it is decent fight, especially for the time of making, but there are easily better sword fights. If you watch "The duellists" (from Ridley Scott, which is about, surprisingly, 2 guys who have several duels with each other), that film alone has 3 better sword fights. Or the Polish movie "Deluge" has one of the best saber duels. But the ultimate best ever sword fight must be the one from Deathstalker 3 :D

[@jamesmason3348]

@@szepi79 The fact that he learned it left handed (his non dominant hand) is extraordinary.

[@szepi79]

@@jamesmason3348 check out the Mask of Zorro, there is a fight scene where Zorro is using 2 swords against 2 opponents. If you call the PB extraordinary, than the MoZ is extraordinary supreme.

[@cptsteele91]

Tom Hardy's character is an absolute unit... isn't that practically every character he plays bar Star Trek Nemesis xD

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SHALOM, cptsteel91!

[@pompadour_gagarin1723]

In "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy", he plays a pretty pathetic agent who seems himself as sort of James Bond but is in fact completely out of his league.

[@OminousVoice]

However in Nemesis it's his ship that's the unit.

[@nunyabidness1852]

@@pompadour_gagarin1723 I forgot he was in that movie. That’s a good movie

[@Peter-jm4qx]

I can't believe neither of you mentioned the duel between The Dread Pirate Roberts (Wesley) and Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride! I mean any fight from that movie is fantastic! "I know something you don't know. I'm not left handed!" one of my favourite lines from a movie ever, that's including: "Do I look like a guy with a plan?!" and "Listen. Understand. That Terminator is out there. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear...and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead."

[@joschlunde]

Dark Historic European Martial Arts “DHEMA” For some reason this just sounds so rad.

[@akashahuja2346]

DHEMA? well putting a D in front of things often improves things, take DGENT for example

[@Dim2134]

@@akashahuja2346 I'll be honest, DGENT makes me think of detergent.

[@lukedeakin7124]

You should do a video on either a. The Battle of Castle Itter, b. The story of Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler or c. Daryl Davis, a black man who owns around 200 KKK robes that were gifted to him by former members he convinced to leave

[@timothymaitland2859]

A Daryl Davis video would be fucking amazing, since he's the closest thing we have to a real life Charisma minmaxer with an ungodly bonus to persuasion

[@danmarkling6761]

He doesn’t do suggestions. If you make them he won’t do that video

[@lukedeakin7124]

@@danmarkling6761 wow that's sad

[@worldcomicsreview354]

@@timothymaitland2859 I remember reading a /tg/ story about somebody who minmaxed "intimidate". Castle on fire? Intimidate the fire and make it go out. Building collapsing? Intimidate the bricks back into place. Dead? Intimidate TIME ITSELF into rewinding.

[@marieparisi4522]

"We British fight for honor, you French fight for money." "Well we all fight for what we need." The only time France bested Britain

[@donivankey2594]

You must not be well aquatinted with world history

[@danjacob6635]

@@esteban20969564 you mean laughing with his Scandinavian blood because he was not French

[@danjacob6635]

@@esteban20969564 he wasn’t French his dad wasn’t French normandy stop being France at the time when the king of France at the time gave it away

[@grandsome1]

@@danjacob6635 Wasn't his mother French? That's French enough, heck usually culture is given by the mother, so he's definitely French with Scandinavian characteristics.

[@jeormormont7470]

Laughs in 100 years war...

[@KaigaKarasuma]

From about age 15 to 25 my friends and I used to make our own "boffer" swords. Originally it was 3/4" wooden dowel rods with thin pipe foam and duct tape, but our crafting techniques improved and we started using sheets of foam to make more blade-like swords and other fancier weapons. The weapons also got bigger and heavier and I even made a life-size FFFVII Buster Sword. By that time I'd gotten to know some people who played Amtgard and they were using graphite golf shafts and pool noodles for padding. I offered to duel them using my sword versus theirs using their rules. They thought they'd have the upper hand because of the difference in sword mass, but what they didn't realize was that I had a decade of practice, some formal training and my sword was counter-weighted so the pivot was perfect. I could keep up with them easily and they couldn't get a blow past me. If only they'd have gone for the back of the leg.

[@hailhydreigon2700]

By the way, we do use steel swords in HEMA. :P We also learn how to grapple and strike. It's really such a great umbrella of martial arts.

[@Molloy244]

that is kinda the point though isn't it, it was taught originally as a combined fighting style. (looks for copy of Talhoffer in pile of related paper)

[@ms.centurion9708]

*laughs in fencing* Sincerely, Mr. Centurion

[@FireHawkISA]

Love y'all. Have a great day, stay safe everyone ❤️

[@neversuperfennecwarrior9486]

Take care, Spore74. May you also stay safe

[@BotherNone]

Man I gotta say, this is one of the very few channels I actually watch the sponserspots on. The only others are Warrior Poet society and XPtolvl3 because they do entire skits around em. I love this channel.

[@lightningmchick8948]

"The closest I've ever gotten to a sword fight was at a house party" Me:😳😬

[@Takanuva2244]

Thought that he was gonna use secret Joestar technique and run away like a coward.

[@amyoakAnimation]

逃げ乱打よ‼️

[@markhalm9889]

I mean he did. He ran away to buy time until he could counter with a dirty trick.

[@TheLuthurus]

Sounds like a descendant of Black Adder.. I've got a cunning plan mi Lord.

[@jamesjoyner287]

Also a hema practitioner from the US and it is great to keep ya in shape and a great conversation piece.

[@mr.kennedy2294]

I really respect you telling us how much the sponsors give you. I knew you said you would but actually hearing it makes me feel so respected as a viewer and, in turn, I respect you, your crew and your channel so much. Thank you, man.

[@kuroinu1996]

This is the first I'm hearing of HEMA, but I used to be part of the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA), and had a great time. Super fun learning to fight in full armor, going to fairs, and participating in large scale combat. I highly suggest getting into one of these two groups if you're interested in the history, tactics, or such.

[@kellybjorndalen3341]

What makes a bad HEMA club isn't secret dirty moves or fighting particularly rough (Fiore was pretty good at that), but when clubs harbor nazis and other scum. Fortunately the larger HEMA community is good at excluding those folks. In fact a few good HEMA folks started a group called F.A.R. (fighters against racism) in London. Happy to see this channel give some love to the sword nerds.

[@tuckinatorinator787]

Is that a common problem? Doesn't sound like it would be

[@zakr911]

@@tuckinatorinator787 it’s not. The HEMA community is one of the most accepting communities around. There is just a problem with some people who are way too involved in politics continually bringing up the side they don’t like (either side) as a boogeyman that never goes away. This is a sport for fencing. Not a recruiting station for their ideology. I’ve only hear of one group who were supposedly Nazis in Germany. They were swiftly banned. Not much exists of them now because no one gives them the time of day, teaches or trains with them and they never leave Germany. Other than that, there are only accusations which little evidence.

[@tuckinatorinator787]

@@zakr911 I hate when people hijack fun things for politics. Can't we have fun in peace?

[@kellybjorndalen3341]

@@tuckinatorinator787 it's common enough that the HEMA community has become hyper aware of dog whistles and does a lot to keep the overall community safe, but there is a disturbing number of compromised clubs and leadership still active here and there.

[@zakr911]

You would think. Haha

[@MrBerg4ever]

Fun Fact: Duels in America are actually still legal and have never actually been abolished. You just have to prove it in court.

[@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158]

Not a lawyer but a Welsh friend told me that in the UK, having a contract and witnesses you can legally solve any dispute by fighting. If the loser takes you to court afterwards the contract and witnesses will prevail and the loser will have to pay court fees. Recently two politicians were arguing at a pub and went out to "solve" the issue, one hit his head on a curb, went to a coma and afterwards recognized it was a gentleman fight, no fine, no jail, nothing.

[@MrBerg4ever]

@@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158 To be honest, that sounds like a way better method for people to solve problems

[@MyANIMATIONSTUDIOMC]

They are not legal everywhere however. As an Ohioan, I can confirm that we have dueling laws in effect, completely forbidding deuling. Couple close friends used to joke about it because a bunch of TCGs call their battles "duels".

[@MrBerg4ever]

@@MyANIMATIONSTUDIOMC probably for the best, you don't want Buckeye and Wolverine fans settling their disputes outside of football lol

[@PongoXBongo]

I seem to recall a clip where two dudes verbally agreed to a fight in the presence of a policeman and were allowed to carry on while he observed.

[@loading5554]

Honestly I'm very happy with this sponsorship. And the video was very fitting. I imagine every one is happy with this!

[@briancoolbreeze]

The most important part of the duel was the gear they used. Specifically a brassard that locked the shield arm in the forward position. It made grappling practically impossible. Which, as you pointed out was the thing Vivonne was known to do. Leg cuts are common throughout historic manuals.

[@FIAWOLpi]

Being sponsored by you is so valuable! I'm so interested to see who would pay you that I watch until the end out of respect for you guys and them.

[@SockDrawerDemon]

Any company with enough confidence in themselves that they do a Fact Fiend sponsorship has +2 trust.

[@aldoushuxley5953]

I did not know HEMA was a thing. Looks interesting!

[@crightbrayons8416]

Got to say how much I love how you all run this channel. The openness of your sponsorships is really appreciated. I especially loved your episode on the contract offer from raid shadow legends and how ridiculous it was. Also how KZbin automatically added ads to everything and Nisha had to go through and change all those, seriously love you all.

[@knightcyclops7330]

I do HEMA, and whilst im not part of the sponsor club, I highly recommend anyone whos interested to go to your local club and do a lesson, its such an amazing hobby and everything about it is perfect for the casual fencer to the intense knight wannabes. HEMA is there for sparring and tournaments

[@BeOtterMyFriend]

HEMA instructor from Germany here to second that. Find a club, it's great fun!

[@Mefous2]

The Road to El dorado is low key the best Disney film.

[@razorflossrazor2937]

Dreamworks made el dorado

[@Mefous2]

@@razorflossrazor2937 same dif

[@michaelfuentes8101]

@@Mefous2 no, not really mate lol

[@TheTrueArkher]

Mickey isn't going to kiss you, you can call it a dreamworks film.

[@TheBaconWizard]

Props to the guy who sponsored this video, good move!!

[@zardozzz]

For real the only sponsorship I've ever been interested in

[@thanethornton8148]

I love these videos and how you just stack pictures up in the background cause they perfectly explains how absurd my conversations mindless wander through seemingly unrelated topics 😂😂😂

[@lycandeadfall8542]

Can I just say. I love that your solution to discrediting talking to each while social distancing is sticking a disclaimer kn the corner & giving everyone the tittle of "Far-Away".

[@totalynotimmortal8121]

The head crushing scene is hilarious

[@SomaShiori]

Best dueling scene: The Princess Bride between Inigo Montoya and Dread Pirate Roberts

[@reevekatt4574]

i don’t mind that I’m watching an ad when the sponsor is this cool. This is so interesting and great fact fiend content- and I’m learning a lot. Great work!

[@hamsterhotep]

Jarnac-Kai: The Dark HEMA Alliance. I'd watch this so much.

[@BaithNa]

Plate ameour wasn't that OP. There's plenty of bludgeoning weapons that were used to combat plate armour.

[@tonydai782]

Yes, blunt weapons were much more effective against plate. It was pretty much impossible to cut into plate with a sword though, which is why half-swording was a thing, better control to aim for the gaps.

[@rebelguy9487]

Halberd, battleaxe, morgenstern, mace, spear.......all were effective against Plate Armor in the hands of a skilled opponent

[@queti486]

So plate+gambeson made you immortal? There's a reason people paid as much for that kind of armor, rather than just slapping mail on some cloth, plate was pretty good, some armors can even fare well against today's pistols

[@claushellsing]

Thank you Patrick .. that was a very interesting topic

[@s.7810]

This is the right way to do a sponsorship! Thanks to Mr. Smallwood for the way you went about it and thanks to Patrick for the artistic freedom you allowed the good folks at Fact Fiend! Gonna be checking the Hema alliance to see if there is anything near me.

[@keepinmahprivacy9754]

This "coup de jarrac" actually sounds like a very old move.... if you've ever ready "The Illiad".

[@VeganJutsu]

Yes we are the Dark Hema alliance, inquire for more details

[@cameronburne4090]

Love this video!! Found my local club, going to start going as I'm at drama school so it would be great to put it on my cv

[@atreyucallahan7820]

Didnt know this was a thing. Thank you thank you thank you!

[@mikkelnyhuus9173]

HEMA is cool. HEMA practitioners are fun.

[@smilingmrj2019]

^^^ YEP ^^^

[@tristansmith5587]

Sounds like a cult.

[@smilingmrj2019]

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[@thespaghettiman3821]

@@tristansmith5587 you can make anything sound like a cult, like basketball teams or reading

[@DragonWolfZen]

Glad you like us!

[@darthreven4901]

My favourite sword fight in a movie is the one in Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost ark because indi used a gun

[@ausarts7542]

I love seeing how the channel is growing

[@ScottCroom]

I do HEMA and can't describe how much of a "senpai noticed me" sort of feeling I have. Very cool.

[@ryanmcgurk1750]

me who lives an hour away from one of their locations *mind blown*

[@darksteeltitan5442]

I’m about 20 minutes from one and had no clue. Definitely going to check it out.

[@romaricfranque2247]

1) The rumor told Jarnac was sleeping with his mother-in-law, not his own mother. 2) The rumor was spread by the Heir of the French Kingdom. There was no way for Jarnac to duel the Dauphin -> so de Vivonne replaced him. So, the King that allowed the duel was actually the one who was spreading the rumor in the first place. 3) The duel was not that postponned - in fact, the duel took place even BEFORE the new king was sacred. 4) the move "coup de Jarnac" was not dishonnorable. Only after a long time, the sense of the expressoin "coup de Jarnac" shifted from meaning skillful to dishonnorable. (cf. 5 minutes on fr.wikipedia.org)

[@ms.centurion9708]

They mention the 4th on in a fact bar at the bottom

[@nickjohnson8780]

I thought you'd show a clip of the mountain and viper fighting, but you went straight for the eye gouging and skull crushing. bravo well done

[@petersteele7603]

Thanks Patrick! Your the real hero!

[@charxmoon9495]

Omg omg omg, me next for the sponsorship, I've been debating this for months. Now how do I get in touch

[@frossassin213]

wait so he knew his tactic was stabbing shins and he didn't like just buy some plated boots o the equivalent at the time? then he deserved to lose.

[@jorgemustonen3538]

nah, he didn't knew. they knew each other but the guy was getting trained by an instructor and the technique was, apparently, not widely common in duels. Even if he knew the move, Jarnac was choosing the equipment. he lost because he underestimated his opponent and got hit by an unexpected move.

[@notacraftyusername]

God I love the channel transparency when it comes to ads

[@jakobbateman7717]

Fucking love it when you get sponsored. Because you only do something when it's your terms so you can tell it's something you find cool and are actually enjoying talking about

[@deangeloellis729]

The Hound was the Mountain's equal and if Sir Arthur Dayne was alive he would make The Mountain his bitch.

[@Dynatron9000]

I might post this again, but it's worth it. Look into the real "most interesting man in the world", Max Hardberger. Ex pilot/historian/maritime lawyer, who steals cargo ships from pirates for his current day job.

[@foxtox4755]

The transparency of this channel is amazing

[@EnbyNomad]

I love the sponsored vids bc y'all are so ethical and chill about them

[@heroes16upl]

Hello, first minute watchers! Have a great day.

[@isaaccullen3070]

Thank you

[@dreadfulme2218]

You too man

[@SamTaylor-ri6ym]

Cheers x

[@chhite7590]

You too.

[@dapperoreo5224]

U 2

[@RyanMK666]

To the 2 people who will see this. I hope you have a fantastic day.

[@markoltedal198]

I prefers your videos with sponsors instead of ads, you’ve have the most random sponsors lately and I love it

[@jame7445]

I'm so happy to see fact fiend finally get more sponsors :)

[@rexcorpuz7423]

damn, here in the first 30 seconds.

[@davidlee3004]

Same bruv 😂

[@geoshark12]

Well I’m not watching game of thrones ever

[@Molloy244]

if you know anything about actual sword fighting it is so depressing.

[@SockDrawerDemon]

Correct choice.

[@alanbarnett718]

The look on the King's face is so totally appropriate - the raised eyebrow! :D

[@matthewmueller9166]

in addition to being wonderful content, this channel is once again also earning HIGHKEY respect

[@weejas]

Thank you for confirming that I really don't want to watch GoT...

[@charlations]

Yeah, what the heck. I still feel queazy even after the videos ended

[@nateskinner97]

Plate Armor wasn't nearly as heavy as you portray. Tackling in armor was a regular tactic.

[@queti486]

I think the impressive part was meant to be "he would stomp them to death"

[@shadowmale2.055]

Love your videos, keep up the good work❤️

[@flyingmonkeiesRus]

This channel is ridiculously wholesome.

[@jaywalkallstar]

The "dark" HEMA clubs are the ones that are REALLY about the European part.

[@jaywalkallstar]

RobotDCLXVI ??? I just meant they were whites only. The bad HEMA Clubs are less Cobra Kai, more KKK.

[@jaywalkallstar]

RobotDCLXVI If the kendo courses were restricted to Japanese students only, or purposefully made their dojo/hall particularly unwelcoming for non-Japanese students, then yes I would say the same.

[@stevenkassulke9747]

wearing full plate armour, tackling another person in full plate, literally any1 can do that. its not that difficult

[@BeOtterMyFriend]

Thought the same. Maybe he did not himself wear armour while tackling the armoured dude? That would be a show of bravery. The other thing is just pretty standard as most armoured fighting at some point turned to Ringen (wrestling, but not the nice olympic kind).

[@azathoththe3rd]

I'm so glad you guys are getting sponcers now.