The Crash That Forced Industry-Wide Changes | FULL EPISODE |

[@CuriousScienceandEngineering]

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[@luddite333]

yes..... not very well in my opinion.....the Boeing / FAA connection is a problem

[@avelinaosborne32]

Suspended for falsifying records? What about banned from the industry for 10 lifetimes?

[@farinshore8900]

Given the threat of death, the lack of support for the pilots is disgusting

[@christainmarks106]

The hired world-class actors to Portray the Captain & first officer. They really brought home a dire situation on that airplane.

[@lorimeyers3839]

The acting on the part of the pilots in this documentary is terrific. Very intense.

[@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp]

An extremely brave and competent air crew, and brilliantly acted.

[@jameswebb4593]

The pilots are human beings , they have no more wish to die then a passenger . I always take that thought with me when flying.

[@joynerstephen]

Thumbs up those pilots NEVER gave up flying even while literally flying upside down. They were angry not scared or panicked. Maintenance in so many words told them it's your problem. It was a sad day for Alaska Air that day in January for Flt 261.

[@paulazemeckis7835]

Pilots go down fighting for thier and the passengers' lives. Always heros.

[@joynerstephen]

@@paulazemeckis7835 Agreed!!! :-)

[@59tante]

The pilots were heros taking the plane over water. God bless them

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

John Leartin (the whistleblower) was a hero. it is shameful that his impecable work was punished and he had to change his line of work. it is despicable that this is a known fact that if you blow the whistle on improper practices you will lose your job, making the industry a lot less safe.....

[@thomasmarked2233]

Money ...the root of all evil...cutting corners for profit is absolutely criminal ..

[@lunaticfringe5834]

They are protected at state and federal levels now.

[@watchgoose]

@@thomasmarked2233 NO. The BIble says that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil, not money itself.

[@natowaveenjoyer9862]

No. Whistleblowers are subhuman.

[@lunaticfringe5834]

@@natowaveenjoyer9862 maybe one won’t save your life someday. DBag.

[@zew1414]

I've been a mechanic for 24 years and have never once taken a shortcut. I've actually been fired from 2 car dealerships because I wouldn't take shortcuts. One of which could have literally broken the car in half! No kidding. Completely in half! I said I'm not going to be responsible for anyone getting hurt. No way!

[@kinte1870]

Lol I've been in bodyshops for 40 years 😅 and I've never heard of a mechanic doing something that broke a car in half 😂😂 .Was the car made of cardboard.

[@kinte1870]

Nah seriously. What did they want you to do ? Take out crossmembers

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

@zew1 they might have fired you but you know you did the right thing and didnt sell your soul to the devil. i commend you sir. best of luck to you.

[@katankacak1822]

@@kinte1870 naifnya...

[@kennethjackson5879]

We need more honest mechanics because honesty is the best policy.

[@thomasmarked2233]

I remember this the pilots did everything humanly possible to try to keep the plane airborne , there was just no way out of it...🙏

[@oldschoolman1444]

I remember this well, had been to Mexico numerous times in the 90s on Alaska airlines. Stopped flying Alaska after this.

[@arthurgearheard4701]

I haven't heard any complaints about them since this trajedy!

[@faa1412]

@@arthurgearheard4701 Of course not! They phucked around and found out!

[@jsbach9848]

Being a whistleblower is an act of heroism. Yet, whistleblowers are treated as criminals. We've repeatedly seen it here in South Africa with our widespread state capture saga.

[@Herowebcomics]

Man! it is amazing how many times bad maintenance is the cause of huge problems like this!

[@emmanueldavis1491]

Love the acting of the pilots for some reason

[@isabellind1292]

Those were award winning performances as is often the case w/the actors who play the roles of the flight crews in this series. They must be really difficult roles to play. You'd think you were watching the real pilots. RIP to all souls lost in this tragedy.

[@luddite333]

this airline should not exist anymore...and the whistleblower should get a medal

[@natowaveenjoyer9862]

Whistleblowers deserve nothing.

[@geddon436]

@@natowaveenjoyer9862 why?

[@lilmissbloodbath89]

​@@geddon436 He might just be a corrupt bastard.

[@luddite333]

@@geddon436 he tried to save all these lives and was ignored and pretty sure he was fired also

[@sanniepstein4835]

@studio732jrl2 What does homeschooling have to do with this? Have you seen those street interviews of ordinary "educated" people?

[@vyatranto]

Whoever suggested and approved the cost cut on maintenance time intervals should bear ALL the responsibilities! They are the ones who should have been banned to get back into the industry. NOT the whistleblower!

[@Ballaholic17]

And the FAA for approving extensions that would've prevented this crash

[@donnarinaldi3002]

Better yet that airline should of been shut down, not acceptable at all, I have never flown them as a result…

[@Amvndah]

When the pilots watching started talking I just bust out in tears💔 I just can’t even imagine seeing that let alone being in that plane.

[@Albertonification]

What a bottomless sadness in the eyes of the father of perished girl.

[@vissitorsteve]

Over the years I have flown from Mexico to SF...This crash is always on my mind.

[@tamilee8784]

Never take shortcuts on maintenence!! Better training in that department is sorely needed for all makes of passenger & private planes. Under pressure is no excuse!

[@QueenRenne]

💯👀💅🏾

[@peterolsen269]

I think you are missing it Tami, the mechanics are under pressure by the people that pay their salaries. The middle management is hiding behind the coat tails of the owners and meanwhile whipping the lowly technician; knowing full well that if there is an accident, they can always blame the mechanic. The lowest paid guy is getting all the pressure and all the blame.. tell me how that can work?

[@tamilee8784]

@@peterolsen269 Then they all burden the blame. Like I said, being under pressure is no excuse when you have people's lives at stake. That is precisely the point!

[@peterolsen269]

@@tamilee8784 Then don't get involved with the airlines, blame doesn't solve financial ambitions. Your point is that you want to blame someone, my point is that we need to solve this problem. If you as a mechanic or as a pilot tell management that you need more time or can't complete the task, they will fire you and hire someone else that will do it in a timely manner. Then your ambitions to be involved with aviation are over. I'm just telling you the facts, not trying to change your opinion. We could all go back to the days of Regulated Airlines, back to 1979. Then your tickets would be two or three times as much. YOU decide. Note, you should read my comment on this page. I knew these people personally.

[@melodiefrances3898]

@@tamilee8784 you cannot blame the mechanics from the safety of being behind a computer screen. Their livelihoods were at stake. This one is on management.

[@sadeearahman3467]

Love the video & sound quality

[@jamesgraham6122]

Those who think that the pilots had no responsibility for the outcome do not fully understand what we do up there. They recognised that they had an issue, a serious issue. Not understanding the cause of the problem their reaction should have been to avoid exacerbating the issue. Minimum inputs, don't wrestle with it, guide the plane as sympathetically as possible to a safe landing. They persisted in trouble-shooting the issue until the system failed completely. That was what provoked criticism from the NTSB.

[@melodiefrances3898]

I still very much doubt they would have landed safely. If so, I stand corrected. Also, if so, hopefully lessons were learned.

[@stevendegiorgio3143]

I really feel bad for that mechanic and I understand.I to, is an A&P mechanic.I worked in military defence electronics and because I went to a company party I wasn't authorized to go to,I could never work in military electronics aerospace again.

[@geddon436]

wait, what?

[@LouisGedo]

I love this series

[@QuinnnMallory]

If I were the jogger on the beach and I met someone who told me he'd lost his daughter on that flight, I certainly wouldn't start telling him all the details of what I'd witnessed. That's just cruel.

[@stevendegiorgio3143]

TWA 800 has a very simular memorial arrangement.Near the ocean where the plane crashed.

[@joinjen3854]

I have flown Alaska Air many times. I always thought they were better than most other US carriers.

[@arthurgearheard4701]

Well, Delta is the top ranked Airline! But I can't recall any trajedies associated with Alaska since then!

[@crow1994-bl]

In hindsight, this was a tragedy that could have been avoided. As soon as the flight crew realized there was a mechanical problem with the horizontal stabilizer, they should have immediately declared an emergency and landed. At that point, they still had adequate control of the aircraft to land successfully. Instead, they performed troubleshooting procedures causing catastrophic failure of the horizontal stabilizer resulting in an uncontrollable aircraft.

[@rangerider51]

One of the passengers left her husband in Mexico because she had to get back to work. So she ended her vacation a little earlier and got on that fateful flight.

[@sandife4nandes365]

Cutting corners and tight time schedules cost lives.

[@davidhynd4435]

I've watched this episode several times before and it never gets any easier to watch. I'm not a confident flyer at the best of times. I know what the statistics say, but the idea of climbing into an aluminium tube and blasting off into the upper atmosphere and being utterly dependent upon thousands of parts all doing their job correctly so as not to fall from the sky is not confidence inspiring. Very dodgy- what could possibly go wrong? These people lived the last few minutes of their lives in sheer terror and must have known they were about to die. And all for the want of fifty cents worth of grease. Although McDonnel Douglas must take some of the blame because there was no redundancy built in for this utterly essential component.

[@Lesnz2009]

There is no way the pilots can be held responsible for something they were unaware of and still the NTSB investigator still wanted to partially blame them as the TNSB has a bias against human beings and put their faith in technology which is designed manufactured and maintained by humans. This comment is based on a comment made by the Chief Investigator

[@jamesgraham6122]

You might like to read my comment above.

[@NoriMori1992]

Nice try.

[@Lesnz2009]

What does that mean?

[@StonewallTitlow]

The only fault of these guys, aside from causing the fatal dive, was even showing up to work that day and taking off.

[@tytan7772]

I feel sorry for all these people 😰

[@allthingsbegin]

It is heartbreaking to hear Mr. Miller talk about losing his daughter and her husband. It's hard to listen to all of those survivors talk about their loss.

[@newaddress456]

I have seen many problem Alaska air line flights. I will never take a trip on that air carrier.

[@kevinkaatz883]

I remember when this happened, like it was yesterday. I'm based in LA, so...

[@gwayne919]

I gave up trusting mechanics a long time ago because of the shoddy work and those who claimed to know it all and didn't know shix after all. I only trust my front end alignment to brake check because I know the CEO personally and had to report a couple of con artists at two of his shops who were scamming customers and lying about it.

[@MegaLivingIt]

What a mess. And the MD 80's had a safe history previously.

[@evab.8109]

RIDICULOUS! Cutting corners to save a buck is NOT worth losing ANY HUMAN BEING (LOVED ONE), ESPECIALLY HOW these passengers SUFFERED BEFORE plunging to their HORRIFIC DEATH! SHAME on them! SMDH... May they RIP for all ETERNITY in PARADISE! Amen 🙏

[@k9spjack]

Does anyone know if this scenario was programed in a flight simulator to see if other pilots were able to save the plane?

[@twisted_tony]

There is no recovering from this mechanical failure.

[@lethabrooks9112]

This was a dive no pilot could've recovered from because of the type of mechanical failure this plane was experiencing.

[@kevinkaatz883]

I hate flying, and if I never got on a plane again is a-okay. Send me a postcard

[@hobblymotorsports7332]

I think that the maintenance log should be on the walls of the inside of the plane for passengers to look at, kind of like a health score at a restaurant! Those are posted for the customer to see, why not on airplanes!??

[@peterolsen269]

Because passengers wouldn't understand them and quite a bit of conjecture would come of it. You are thinking of having 100 people reading countless pages of back logs before they board? Wow, I want to have two of what ever you are on.

[@NoriMori1992]

The map is not the territory. Maintenance staff can write in work they didn't do, just as they already do sometimes. And without looking at the work yourself you wouldn't know if it was really done or not.

[@mrcaialexander2352]

Captain and First Officer weren't aware of the danger that existed in the tail of this aircraft. As they gained altitude it became apparent that something in the horizontal stabilizer was not operating correctly. Let me pick you guys brains for a second: Company MD-80 Quick Reference Handbook (QRH) Stabilizer Inoperative checklist nor the company’s QRH Runaway Stabilizer emergency checklist required landing at the nearest suitable airport if corrective actions were not successful. Do you believe turning around and heading back might have made a difference in this story ?

[@sandyt8981]

The pilots decided to stay over water until they had control of the airplane - which sadly never happened.

[@rongenise7006]

Profits over people is a core value of unfettered capitalism.

[@Albertanator]

Yeah.....lets try socialism because that has always worked so well!

[@alexburke1899]

@@Albertanator he didn’t say socialism was better he just pointed out the reality I’m the airline industry. They literally do the math on industry wide issues, and if it probably won’t happen and it’s really expensive to fix, they don’t fix it. Look how Boeing has tried to cover things up in the Max. We have some good regulation in US for part 121 commercial but it’s driven by FAA which basically polices itself because they know crashes cost money. Plenty of people die in private tourist planes that take money through a loophole and aren’t regulated. So basically we want regulation when a lot of people die at once on a big brand airline but don’t pay attention to the rest. The NTSB can’t charge anyone or change anything all they can do is make recommendations. A lot of the problems Boeing has had is because they cut costs for shareholders so the comment makes a lot of sense.

[@AnsariTrading]

why they do not install some kind of air bags beneath the air crafts wings ? so in case of emergency pilots can land safely on the ocean's surface.

[@joinjen3854]

The wings carry fuel. The airbags would interfere with flight, and landing.

[@faa1412]

@@joinjen3854 Even if they hidden/tucked away inside and under the plane, and only deployed when necessary?

[@joinjen3854]

@faa1412 yes. Plane airbags would be very heavy.

[@mikethompson3534]

People want cheap flights they don’t think for a second that quality and safety comes at a cost, major airline these days in the past 10 plus years have been cutting corners to save money Now comes year 2020 most of us old guys 60 plus are about to retire and now years 2022 and beyond major airlines are really having a difficult time find aircraft mechanics known as A & P or Avionics engineer because the pas 2 decades they have been used and abused pay cuts, medical insurance, retirement and other benefits all gone newer engineers refuse to get in to this field so the airlines are now forced to hire people off the streets with 0 experience at all although they have have license which on average takes about 2 years but still have 0 experience meanwhile the old guys are to old to teach as these older guys just want to finish their remaining years and move on , I feel sorry for these young engineers as they have no guidance because of what these evil management managers have done to these older workers in the past

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

phew!!! that makes me feel "really safe"..... i am getting a boat next time, at least i have a chance of survival unlike being on a flying box

[@cornelilioi4956]

"People want cheap flights...." Not, is not this being the reason for corner cuts, but because the investor wants more profit money. Everything right now is about more money, more money.

[@faa1412]

@@cornelilioi4956 This is probably why I would get fired as a CEO of an airliner because I'd put safety over everything else, including shareholder's profits. I'll skimp on food, and charge fees for everything to make up for the costs, but I won't skimp on Safety. That's where I draw the line. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night, knowing that I was cutting corners on maintenance and safety, putting people's lives at risk. So I know I wouldn't make it as a CEO of an airliner.

[@jacobmarshall7810]

Even though it is silent can't see friends and relatives still weeping over their friends and relatives. If the maitanance was poor the top management has to be sued.

[@victorjemeljascenkov9573]

Very horable situation how many peoples were killed.Horror!!!

[@johnwilkens6758]

Well, then... May the odds be EVER in your favor!

[@thomasmcqueeney6877]

Got to be a preventive maintenance issue

[@teddybear_thegreat8997]

🤞MAN SCIENCE MACHINE A BEAUTIFUL COMBINATION 🤞

[@tetchuma]

And not one executive was imprisoned for these reckless decisions… Murika!!!

[@OGJeff685]

This is why I don't fly MD80's ever.

[@eveethetabby_cat]

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[@nancyvoutour3234]

wonder if this is what happened to that China Air a few weeks ago.

[@arthurgearheard4701]

I think that one of the Pilots aboard that ✈️ deliberately crashed that ✈️!

[@eveethetabby_cat]

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[@sergelavallee913]

I'll never take the plane.....NEVER!

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[@johnfairweather9188]

I hope the useless ground maintenance team were all fired.

[@k9spjack]

Not only fired, but prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter!

[@johnfairweather9188]

@@k9spjack Good point.

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

since we seem to be in an upside down world i wouldnt be surprised if they got a bonus to "keep the morale" or something..... disgustimg....

[@davidp2888]

I knew someone who died in this crash.

[@florjanbrudar692]

Who?

[@eveethetabby_cat]

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[@fritztopher]

people died so the airlines could stay in operation , kinda make the airlinebailout and mask frustration frivilous

[@LeemWills]

Where are in an emergency

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[@farinshore8900]

Ask the dead people if the company did its job brilliantly!

[@thomasmcqueeney6877]

Of course the ceo figured in the loss of a plane or 2

[@georgeknox1822]

Where are the man slaughter prosecutions at the airline ???

[@nathanaelgonzalez8303]

Alaska Airlines Flight 261 31 enero 2000

[@marcosantos7279]

Could the same thing have caused the recent China Air crash?

[@robinrichards6275]

Probably not, they're two completely different tails.

[@florjanbrudar692]

And it was *intentionally* flown into the mountains

[@nicholasvonrhine6311]

Airlines are run like bus services.

[@Greggg57]

Enough of the human interest side already. I am sick of that kind of news presentation.

[@sandife4nandes365]

What happened to the whistle blower?

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

they said he moved on to another industry... i hope he got treated better as he was defo a decent human being

[@patrickyoung2117]

PLEASE, I (and I'm sure others) have ZERO interest in the private lives of passengers unless it had some effect on the flight. CUT OUT THE FLUFF! Use the extra time to perhaps tell more about the plane or other highly interesting stuff, OK? Otherwise, thanks for your technical investigation.

[@arnenelson4495]

No excuse for this.

[@mcmlxvi]

The industry spends millions every year in publicity to reassure the safety of flying, the reality is that every time you board an airplane, you are gambling with your life on a 50/50 chances.

[@bootsarmstrong8421]

The pilots should have tried to land in San Diego. Probably would worked out.

[@pavelavietor1]

Hello WTF Alaska airlines a successful airline in the west coast of AMERICA AN INTO MÉXICO. This people never study geography. Crazy pavelavietor1 visigoth1 iberian1

[@robinstewart6510]

🤣 Thousands of hours "flying" the MD80, or thousands of hours sitting in the cockpit of the MD80? Most of those hours were spent totally under the control of the autopilot, not the crew. The crew itself may have only a few hours total (spread over years) of actually flying the aircraft. In addition to this inexperience, they were taken off guard by the interference with their normal sleepy routine.

[@GodiscomingBhappy]

that applies to every pilot on every plane

[@robinstewart6510]

@@GodiscomingBhappy .. I agree. This lack of actual flying time bothers me. A simulator isn't enough, even when it comes to practicing emergency procedures (no real sense of life or death). While we can't do much about the latter, something surely could be done to give pilots more time at the controls.

[@sanniepstein4835]

Weren't these men Air Force vets? Probably not sleepyheads.

[@josephandaloro8496]

WAY WAY TOO MANY FREAKING ADS 😢 I'M DONE TRYING to watch Something that DESERVES THE RESPECT of PROVIDING INFO IN FULL ATTENTION and/ HAVING RESPECT FOR THE HUMAN BEINGS that PERISHED and their SUFFERING LOVED ONES FACING SUCH A HORRIFIC END! BUT GREED ENDED THEIR LIVES as the CONSTANT UNENDING GREEDY BARRAGE of HIDEOUS ADS that INTERRUPTED and THUS ENDED THE VIEWING of THIS IMPORTANT VIDEO GRAPHICAL ANNALISIS AT LEAST for ME!!! KZbin SUCKS!!!

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