Flight 604's Mysterious Crash Over the Red Sea | Mayday: Air Disaster

[@MaydayAirDisaster]

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[@barbiek3987]

This originally aired on TV in 2007. I have seen it a few different times on You tube and other video upload sites. I am glad that there are more 'repeats' than 'new' episodes. Less new episodes means less planes crashing and less people dying.

[@LindaClark-u7w]

I agree

[@RickL_was_here]

One way to look at it. The number of GA accidents though, is horrendous, these programs should discuss those more.

[@Swilla12]

We are waiting for a new episode on the Air China crash!

[@MakerInMotion]

2017 was the safest year in the history of commercial aviation. 50 fatalities out of 4.1 billion passengers.

[@tbone3972]

There are many more car crashes than planes, trains, & ships/boats

[@nenblom]

“There’s something wrong with the plane!” That broke my heart. May the passengers and crew of Flash Airlines flight 604 RIP. ❤❤

[@andycross9840]

A postcard saying ' I think this will arrive after me' - WOW!! That hits you right where it hurts.

[@DBEdwards]

To die in this fashion is unimaginable

[@markmckinney1924]

Companies like flash shouldve never been operating in the first place. 😢. RIP to those lost.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

Vertigo can be extremely sudden and powerful.

[@daviddavis3389]

I've seen that masterpiece Movie! Jimmie Stewart, Kim Novak & Barbie BelL Gedes.

[@spacecadet35]

And that's why you are taught to fly on instruments.

[@markmckinney1924]

These investigators Gove me great confidence in flying. They literally go everything they can. It's inspiring to see. NTSB should be proud of what they do. As an American I've very proud of our aviation system.

[@scottoliver-x9j]

@@markmckinney1924 ...beautifull minds indeed. but political. most won't public advise that children are not for risk in air or highway. so, the big business scalp of children and by parents that place their children at risk, persist. and be sure, more children will perish for human vanities, risk and choices. dl

[@camsfitness1745]

Yeah, whats sad is in my opinion, we can't just blame just the captain. The co-pilot and and 3rd guy should've said something to the capitan much earlier instead of being too scared.

[@tankthearc9875]

i think its a cover up he knew how to fy it , and remember it went sideways before they were in troube

[@toolate9494]

He was the captain, the buck stops there. The captain was arrogant.

[@bunglejoy3645]

Have you as a child been bullied and know what's it like or as eith ne kniw being in what I brlieve is harassment bullying by people in area you live prople never listen to innocent one but are intimidated by grouos of peopke I have and am there now

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

No mayday call. Minutes after it left airport. Quickly after takeoff. Blare leave from that airport. Two days after crash, Yemen terroist phone call. Ruled out.

[@melaniebrooks7121]

So sad these poor people 💔😭

[@thepauldineen]

I had a friend, a Russian citizen, who was on vacation at that Resort at that time. I was unsure when she was returning to Russia and I thought she might have been on this flight. Initially, the news said that there was one Russian citizen on the manifest. She wasn't on it, which was a relief, but she had a different problem. While at the Beach Resort she was hit by a ski boat, which broke her left leg in five places. She spent almost the whole next year and a half in a Russian Hospital healing and regrowing the bone (with the use of a device created by a Russian doctor). She said that the Egyptian doctors who worked on her initially did a bad job. So it had to be redone when she got to Russia. I'm visited her and 2006 and she had a significant limp but was not too bad off considering how bad the injury was.

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

Pitch black night. Simple turn over Red Sea, plane not working.

[@Im_Just_Saying]

24:00 The situation raises several questions about the career trajectory and choices of a highly experienced pilot. Generally, one would expect a pilot with a significant level of skill and experience to be in demand by major airlines, which offer not only better financial compensation but also more prestigious routes. These airlines also tend to have more robust safety protocols and better resources for their staff, contributing to a more desirable and secure working environment. Why is this experienced pilot working for a 2 plain "Fly by night" airline?

[@lunasloanbailey]

Yes, I agree.

[@Blinkerd00d]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@susanbengston3208]

Maybe the Pilot had young children, a family at home that he wanted to be close to rather than very far away flights.

[@uponsunnah6986]

What country was Egypt at war with? That will tell you why he couldn't work for a major airline. He was probably blacklisted. You cannot even criticize Israel as a nation, let alone be at war with it and not suffer financially. Just look at what's happening today. America is passing laws that will criminalize criticism of a foreign nation, Israel. What a joke. 😂

[@EasyGoer-e3z]

Poor People Going Through Surreal Inhumane Psychological Terror Trapped and Waiting For That "Moment" They Smash into The Water/Ground and Perish....Unfathomable

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

Change flight, change flight, 2,6, and 8 years old. Cheap tickets not worth it.

[@ryanbencze]

I feel so terrible for all involved. I couldn’t imaging how The first officer who was brand new was feeling tryna tell his much more experience captain he’s doing something wrong. That would be so tense. If I was a captain In a plane the first thing I’d say to my copilot is “if you see something I don’t, take control to save the plane and don’t worry about rank, let’s get home safe and not crash with regret”

[@ElChicoMexicano308]

Rest In Peace Thoes Who Die In The Crash🕊️

[@moofoo9052]

I've watched so many of these "Mayday" movies. They either blame the pilot, find mechanical errors or its due to poor weather conditions. I dont think this was about the pilot or crew. The Egyptian government wants to save face. The airline company was all about profits & could've cared less about properly maintaining their airline. Such a tragedy.

[@kelvindoang1228]

Every business have profit oriented mind but we have system that protect from pilot error.

[@yamjamjam]

I always wish there were more airplane manufacturers. I feel like the 2 company monopoly causes many in the airline industry to feel uncomfortable criticizing the planes, even in the event of poor maintenance.

[@robertschumann7737]

There are a lot more than 2 worldwide. Comac builds jet liners in China and UAC builds them in Russia. Plus, there used to be 2 main ones here in the states. McDonnell Douglas and Boeing plus Airbus in Europe. There was still just as many crashes back in the 50s when there was several companies. Here in the States so much goes into the design and they have great simulators to see how new designs will function in the real world. Before a new jet liner becomes available for sale it goes through very rigorous testing. Where they push the jet much harder than they are designed for. Almost all plane crashes are due to 2 causes. Pilot error or poor maintenance. It's shocking how many crashes could have been avoided had maintenance crews followed prescribed instructions for maintaining and repairing aircraft. Like the plane that had the captains window blow out and took the captain with it. Only other crew members holding onto his legs kept him from attempting to flap his arms to avoid meeting the ground sooner than expected 17000 ft in the air. That was due to a mechanic replacing the window with screws he thought were correct. If he had followed correct procedures he would have looked in the manual and known he was using the wrong bolts. Crashes due to manufacturer issues are usually found pretty quickly and the planes get grounded until that issue is resolved. Boeing just had a problem like that a few years ago with their Max jet. Plus, jet engines are not manufactured by Boeing or Airbus. I know GE manufactures most of Boeings engines and Rolls-Royce makes them for Airbus. Plus when it comes to propeller driven planes there are numerous manufacturers around the world.

[@marinazagrai1623]

The competition between more manufacturers would definitely lead to shortcuts in safety and more people dying. It’s the maintenance that is the issue and as they say, in certain cultures it is deeply shameful to question a veteran pilot…the same issue occurs in Asian cultures. The first officer drew the captain’s attention to the problem but the latter was confused due to vertigo.

[@RussellD11]

agree, but its with all industries now... its rouge Capitalism and VERY dangerous!

[@Epic_C]

@@robertschumann7737Unless it is a 737 Max, which all of the testing was manipulated and no pilots were trained or even told about the new flawed system.

[@EgoExit]

Now it's mostly Boeing and Airbus but there still lots of other planes out there.

[@mntryjoseph1961]

May all the victims rest in peace.

[@lesliecarr312]

It is never one problem. Trying to place blame on only one aspect means other people have too much pride, don't believe they can do anything wrong, and are covering their a...s. There was something wrong with the plane, something wrong with the crew including the pilots, something wrong with maintenance, and something wrong with the airline. It costs too much to retrieve the airplane from the bottom of the sea, but it costs more to leave it there. The answer is buried in what they didn't care to know.

[@criminallyautistic8372]

As the narrator said most of the plane is buried in the red sea. Unless Egypt has the money to get equipment to retrieve the remains of 604 we might never know what was 110% the real cause. R.I.P.

[@davidrhp847]

Budget airline gets budget investigation.

[@criminallyautistic8372]

@@davidrhp847 EXACTLY! THANK YOU!

[@uponsunnah6986]

Exactly. Usually, you want to know what's wrong with your plane so you can avoid the mistake. But in this case, they want to take the easy route and put the blame on humans hence why they never bothered to retrieve the wreckage.

[@Bluthemacaw1]

It baffles me how this captain responded to vertigo. It doesn't matter if you have training on disorientation or not, if you have no visuals, you are flying IFR, your eyes as the PIC should be on the instruments ONLY in these conditions, you should not be looking around for visual references and trying to fly VFR. How this captain had 7000+ hours and did not understand this vitial, basic rule in IFR conditions is beyond me. God rest his, the crew, and all the pax on board, but this was an inexcusable accident. This is a B737-300, this aircraft has THREE attitude indicators, the captain should have had his eyes glued to his own, and, if he believed it to be innacurate, cross-checked with the secondary, and his F/O's.

[@FiniyasZwenyika]

Team work is very important

[@nickv4073]

Any Captain that yells "AUTO PILOT" to get him out of trouble should never be allowed to fly.

[@amazonbox5551]

Sometimes auto pilot is all you have, there have been cases where auto pilot was the only thing that was able to do anything about a problem. If the captain was a war hero and a recognized pilot, its no doubt he tried everything to save the plane.

@@nickv4073 why?

[@alistarmanley607]

You only talking such because you are not in the captain shoes but I wish was you in his position and not him let me see if you would of been alive to tell the story

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

What happened???????ground proximity warning.

[@mechanicallycreative9788]

0:10, what I yell when I'm trying to lift something heavy.

[@jackiwheeler6963]

You're not alone 😂😂😂

[@darrenshank9170]

Cheap doesn't necessarily mean inexpensive...

[@carlramirez6339]

21:59 Had this plane not crashed on that night, it could very easily have ended up like Helios 522 (also a 737-300) during a later flight .

[@OffGridTrkr]

They need to make planes out of the cheap plastic flip flops, they always survive.

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

148 persons & crew.

[@stevedolesch9241]

In my opinion, the way the possible evidence and actual evidence were presented, both, the company and the crew excluding the flight attendant, are at fault. Concerning the vertigo thing. Both, First Officer and the third guy should have done something. Third observation, the Captain was experienced military pilote before. He and the two others should have assessed the environment at that moment, moonless night, etc.

[@cogitoergospud1]

Egyptians seem incapable of being truthful in situations like these.

[@DBEdwards]

The government LIES

[@lunasloanbailey]

Lumping a group of people together is a sign of a low IQ

[@AnetaMihaylova-d6f]

Yes !

[@dennisyoung4631]

The need to “save face” in some cultures? “Amplified Notions of Hierarchy” - where the lower-ranked are expected to be Obsequious toward their superiors?

[@Coolfool1593-sd7zc]

I love how they decided to give us youtube users these videos even though they didnt need too

[@ghostratsarah]

Better they post them and get the ad and premium-users revenue, than pirates getting the money. I've also noticed on a lot of these, people praising the channel for the quality. As if this was an independent channel and not a TV show that's been running around the world, with 3 variations, for longer than some viewers have been alive. So this way the actual team gets the credit, instead of some KZbinr pretending they made it.

[@spacecadet35]

This looks like it could be a classic case of "The first rule of any air crash investigation: Blame the pilots." While vertigo may have been the cause, it is unlikely as this is the very reason that pilots are taught to fly by instruments. The VERY first thig you do as you start to turn is look at your artificial horizon. If he thought that the instruments had failed, you would have expected him to have said so or to have queried the first officer if the instruments on his side were working properly. This wouldn't be the first case where an aircraft crashed due to instrument failure and they tried to blame the pilots. Just look at the 737 MAX.

[@denawiltsie4412]

I have learned to ignore vertigo because I get ear infections and they make me dizzy. But I have two others in my life, both pilots who had dizzy spells and it was nearly impossible for them to ignore what they were feeling and trust me to help them while they were on their feet. What is probably needed is a simulator that turns them in unexpected angles and they must ignore what they are feeling and operate the simulator by instruments alone. For somebody who learned to fly by the seat of their pants, this could be very difficult. This is why CRM is so important because you may not realize you have vertigo. Somebody else who has nothing better than monitor the instruments could have a better picture than you.

[@herseem]

I agree with you that there have been cases where it was too easy to blame the pilots. However, from the dialog in this case, the captain was clearly disoriented and not paying attention or had psychological blindness to what the instruments were telling him, and the others were too slow to intervene adequately. Which instrument wasn't working though? I don't remember them mentioning it. But it suggests the captain may have had less faith in the remaining instruments because of that, which then led to him relying on misleading feelings from his inner ear

[@javiduran8798]

Why every time they don’t find no evidence they blame on the pilot??

[@robertredditt7973]

Rudder control problem. several 737's have had this problem. hydraulic froze up from ice in hydraulic line not melting

[@denawiltsie4412]

Nope. The rudder problem requires the unit get extremely cold and then be exposed to hot fluid. The plane had been sitting in the desert for hours and all would have been warm at that point. The failure occurs after a long flight at a high altitude and then on approach to landing.

[@carlramirez6339]

28:47 It was at this moment the ground engineer knew he screwed up

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

Shattered on impact. Sunk beneath 148 died on impact.

[@juliabeales4619]

Greg Feith ❤

[@katrinarucker2326]

He has both beauty and brains.

[@Avgeekwithlotsofkknowledge]

He was the lead investigator for American Airlines 1420

[@juliabeales4619]

@@katrinarucker2326 dream dude !

[@patrickreagan6443]

Most people would act on self preservation. Correct?

[@pegggymallis324]

Why can't airlines make a black box that has a longer shelf life. Batteries that last longer.

[@coreypatterson5827]

Because money.

[@lethabrooks9112]

Because the technology is not available. Also you have to also take into consideration of where the boxes end up. If they end up in the ocean they may not last long if water penetrates the boxes or maybe a whale might accidentally eat it or it lands at a depth where the signal cannot reach the surface or its trapped in rocks that will block the signal. There so many things that can happen to make it impossible for the boxes to be found. Same with a crash on land. The plane can crash in one place but the boxes end up 20 miles away.

[@MGower4465]

The black boxes have to constructed to be extremely tough to withstand impact forces. Bigger battery capacity means a redesign of the whole unit, a new test and certification cycle, and possibly retrofitting existing aircraft to accommodate the bigger units. It also means, on passenger aircraft, taking space away from somewhere else. Cargo planes are just long tubes, passenger aircraft have insulation, overhead bins, lighting, PA systems, miles of wiring, oxygen mask units with oxygen bottles...all of it crammed in among seats, lavatories, galleys, and often on long haul craft, crew rest compartments tucked away somewhere for flight or cabin crew to fit in a few hours of sleep away from the cattle. Adding stuff means moving lots of other stuff.

[@thebabyhumanist1964]

​​@@MGower4465"Why don't they make the whole plane out of that black box stuff?" ~ Steven Wright

[@MGower4465]

@@thebabyhumanist1964 Yeah, I know he was being funny. Certainly doable. Except now you've built the world's worst road bus, because an airplane made of thick steel won't fly. Old joke: ATC, after a 747 lands fast and a bit long: "United 775 Heavy, turn right on taxiway Alpha if able. If not able, take the Guadaloupe exit off the 405 and turn right to return to the terminal."

[@AK-qs5hw]

i get being mad and frustrated but holding protests is so dumb and helps no one. You want the investigators to do their job properly and thoroughly to find the exact cause, instead of just rushing through it.

[@jeffrenman4146]

When they say flying is safe it really means we want your money… Don't kid yourself money is more important than your life. You're going to see a lot more plane crashes and this show and many more will never run out. Let me tell you flying is not safe

[@titan9259]

It's far safer than driving,. If you want to be safe while flying, fly a safe airline like Emirates.

[@lloydsumpter7735]

He didn't look at the artificial horizon???? When there's no visual reference, how can a pilot POSSIBLY not use artificial horizon (and other instruments) to counteract any vertigo.

[@karenshafer234]

"Go along...to get along..." Dangerous in multitude of situationd !!

[@ronniewoodinsteadofmt2615]

Karen if you ever run for public office , I’ll vote for you and provide financial assistance. Your great and smart . agree. Joey in Pennsylvania

[@johnnyshades2743]

There was two similar situations involving same aircraft where the actuator that conrol the rudder malfunctioned. Could that have been the cause?

[@caryrogers9676]

Why are they showing an MD-80 interior when the flight is a 737?

[@penguin44ca]

Because it's made for tv, on a very small Canadian budget

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

Poor quality of weather reports

[@floridaoutdooradventures8981]

Everything must be checked and double checked to ensure all systems are working as they are supposed to 100%. There must not be any compromise whatsoever. Air travel is considered as the safest way of travel, but a single malfunction can cause a disaster from which there is no recovery. Pilots should also be trained and retrained and dismissed if they show any sign of abnormality.

[@jdshetler0548]

I am SO SICK of this Lume ad…please stop it’s gross

[@maid4thelamb85]

I agree! My whole family says the same thing. It's all over social media, all over regular TV. It's annoying to the point I will never buy it.

[@lu4414]

If the first reaction of a captain to get out of an upset situation is to turn on the autopilot, something is very wrong.

[@donnamauer3215]

I hope the (probably justifiably) angry families remember that the pilots wife also lost someone. God bless them all.

[@laitha.8547]

Still no explanation why the plane banked to the right

[@foureyedchick]

Why IN THE NAME OF GOD do pilots not abort a flight if there is a defect in the airplane?

[@jwizardc]

No airplane is in perfect condition. On any day, there might be a failed light bulb in the main wheel well. The only scenario that would need that light is if the main gear down indicator failed and a crewmember has to look at the indicator in the floor. There was a famous scenario where a pilot was issued a violation because the cigarette lighter did not work, and the pilot chose to fly anyway. At that time, there was no rule saying it was ok to fly without it, only that everything had to work. The level of stupidity of this incident resulted in a document called the Minimum Equipment List, or MEL. All airliners are required to have one. It documents how many of what can be failed and the airplane still be airworthy, and how quickly the fault must be repaired. The First Officer's foot heater is not really required to safely fly, so we can live without it until the next time the plane is at an airport with a major repair facility. I appreciate that your message was likely a reaction to the video. If so, I apologize for the excessively long reply.

[@katrinarucker9773]

​@@jwizardcThey still needed to abort though. Because it could be more than just a burnt out light bulb.

[@lethabrooks9112]

​@@katrinarucker9773Sometimes light bulbs burn out during the flight.

[@MrGoesBoom]

Money. It's all about money. Pilots are under a TON of pressure by the airlines to get their planes in the air and can be sverely punished even if there's a problem

[@foureyedchick]

@@MrGoesBoom It's the same problem with doctors as it is with pilots. Doctors keep on giving you prescription drugs that treat symptoms and don't heal you so that you can stay sick and you have to keep returning to them so they can keep making money.

[@noahschneider400]

re-uploaded episode

[@kovy689]

Yep…

[@inovakovsky]

@@kovy689 We can report it as repetitive/spam content.

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

Warm air in 5 hour flight for Europeans.

[@ReckitGamingYT001]

Can you ploease do any Pakistan International Airlines(PIA) crash investigation? Like the pk 8393 or crashes that happened within pakistan.

[@melvinlazear8068]

i have never seen this one

[@marinazagrai1623]

I’ve seen it, but I don’t mind…it just shows the state of entertainment, when we choose to watch airplane crash episodes 🧐

[@herseem]

There are clearly two significant psychological factors at play: when people become stressed in any way they tend to resort to what they trust most because their unconscious mind takes control. It sounds very much as if the captain had an internal discrepancy been what he felt the plane was doing, and what it was actually doing to the point where he was not believing the instruments, which is why he got the place into the wing circumstances - going nose up, losing speed and banking to the right. The information from the instruments simply wasn't going in, which was why he was surprised when the first officer pointed out the reality that he didn't really accept. And the historical defence to people in his position and him specifically meant it was so difficult for the others to intervene they only did so when the situation was already unrecoverable.

[@katrinarucker2326]

Greg Feith is so beautiful. ❤

[@111danish111]

He wears the most distinct ties 👔 geometric and loud !!

[@johnrisher3007]

Even though the investigators found the company in gross neglect they still find delight in trashing a decorated pilot. They almost always blame the pilot or co pilot. Look a Captain Sully Sullinburger. He proved them wrong. They act like they are never wrong. That just my opinion, but who am I

[@shilpichaudhary1943]

I was on that plane last time

[@hkmp5kpdw]

Vertigo? No. Pilot was turning left as the plane continued turning right…

[@kendallwilliamson8193]

I think that plane should not have left the ground until whatever was wrong was fixed. They were talking about something electrical. Have seen this many times on Mayday shows, something brought up by the pilots and maintenance says its ok and then crashes! Replace the faulty part or don,t fly it!

[@tinymetaltrees]

It's cool how they do the same incidents over and over and over in "different" videos. 🙄

[@thehighwayman78]

When the captain said he could not see the runway and the first officer had said "in sight". If I was the fo I would have responded: maybe your eyes are getting too old

[@DataJuggler]

12:45 For all the 'Flying is safer than driving' people, name me 1 car accident where 148 people die. Reason # 2,416 I don't fly (I also don't ride in cars).

[@lightninghawk1014]

Train accidents and bus accidents.

[@c.r.n7315]

Bruh how do people like you live life

[@JunFan777]

But I mean, YOU can only die once...

[@DataJuggler]

@@JunFan777 I would rather not die with last two minutes screaming.

[@kisaragi_san1378]

Here's a few since googling is too hard for you: The catastrophe of Sange, where 230 people died after a tanker truck flipped over and exploded Bawalphur explosion, similar incident with 219 dead 1982 Salang Tunnel Fire, where two military convoys crashed into each other in a tunnel and caused a fire which killed upwards of 3,000 people (though most likely closer to a few hundred)

[@Retroscoop]

15:52 This episode is about movers and Shakers.... In Sociology, they'd call these accidents and even terrorist attacks "Risk Acceptance". It is either this, or no traveling at all. As all ways of travelling involve at least some risks, think Titanic or Herald of Free Enterprise. And flying apparantly still remains safer than travelling by car or bus. Trains sometimes go off their tracks and are also potential targets for terrorists....

[@VidWatcher-v4j]

I thought pilots are suppose fly by instrument at night?

[@JamesStreet-tp1vb]

There is NO WAY I would get on a "budget" airline.

[@titan9259]

Not even Ryanair?

[@stephenwoodward9771]

Can happen to any plaine

[@AnetaMihaylova-d6f]

​​​@@stephenwoodward9771yes but this was pilot error . Any pilot who wants auto pilot to get home out of trouble shouldn't be left to fly . They got disoriented and it was pitch black night . That's why I don't fly at night

[@T-vy8cc]

Pilot error has caused about 70% of all airline incidents

[@AnetaMihaylova-d6f]

@T-vy8cc yes flying isn't for everyone

[@Eric-fv4jx]

Either let the pilot fly or let the computer fly. This is a big problem with the newer computer planes.

[@philliphall5198]

Saving money and making money is the most important thing to companies

[@jgd777]

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...MY X-SECURITY AGENCY GAVE ME A "CONTRACT OF SERVICE" LATER I FOUND OUT IT WAS A LOUSY APPOINTMENT LETTER ..I WASN'T COVERED FOR ANYTHING

[@dennisyoung4631]

Little girl might have “felt” it…

[@Carlos-en9nz]

Time to sue the plane company 🤑🤑

[@paytongrogg7279]

No it's the mantainence people that don't do their jobs correctly

[@youtubisashoe]

Shoulda just pointed at the bank angle indicator

[@paytongrogg7279]

As a perfessinal flight simulator pilot i never heard of flash airlines but i definitely heard of boeing 737 And all boeing and airbus airliners there my favorites

[@NoelleTakestheSky]

In other words, you play Microsoft Flight Sim and stream it to your friends on social media. No one who is a professional in actual official training sims would say “I’ve definitely heard of Boeing 737” since it’s presumed that anyone with actual aviation experience is very familiar with one of the most common airplanes in the world.

[@paytongrogg7279]

@noelletakesthesky3977 I was just saying I haven't heard of the airline because I've never piloted a plane with a flash airlines paint scheme on it in a flight simulator and I said I didn't know the airline and I know about the air craft and iam very good at flying in a simulator

[@strawberryhellokittyx]

No one, and I mean no one, flying planes, simulated or not, have the grammar and comprehension of a 12 year old like you do. You play games on a computer. You have never been in an actual flight simulation nor would you ever become a pilot for a large aircraft legally.

[@NoelleTakestheSky]

​@@paytongrogg7279 Being very good at Microsoft Flight Sim doesn’t make you a professional. Anyone who uses actual real life aviation flight sims in any professional capacity will be so unaware, and you explicitly said you’ve definitely heard of the 737 as if there are people in the industry who haven’t. I know that a sadly high number of people think that being very good as a computer game makes them aviation professionals (and I’ve heard many, many, MANY CFIs express frustration with students who started off playing Flight Sim start real training thinking they’re already halfway there and are unwilling to take construction feedback, and just as many Flight Sim players who claim that their CFIs were just sooooooooo stunned at their flying ability beccause of their time playing…), but it doesn’t. The real experience is incredibly different.

[@criminallyautistic8372]

@@paytongrogg7279 "Perfessinal"? I thank God for your family that you're a flight simulator pilot and not a real one.

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

Traveling 700 km an hour, plunged towards Sea. Difficulty flying plane, slow plane down

[@carlramirez6339]

If you slow the plane down too much, it may stall.

[@amazonbox5551]

​@carlramirez6339 you also need to remember, the faster something goes, the harder it is to control. Like a car, the faster the speed, the more time it needs to execute a movement. Physics are pretty narly sometimes

[@joebojanic1905]

I would never fly on an Egyptian airline. Those pilots are not held to high standards, just high regard.

[@Shizen-Gaming]

May God have Mercy us all AMEN!

[@niku30504]

The captain has poor instrument flying skills.

[@lindarieker1555]

War hero? For whom

[@anthonybutto1925]

There's always a very low risk in aviation and a greater risk for those, who want to get into space travel to go, where, no man's gone before, where the hidden dangers lie ahead. There's much, much more to know in space travel, than what mankind would know in aviation. As for aviation, I base my opinion, that it's much safer to fly. And so, I'd rather go for aviation, than space travel, if I had the option to get there, regardless, I got from one end of the planet to the other end of the planet in 24 hours, than to get there in around 45 minutes to the other end of the planet in a rocket ship, or a space shuttle, for maybe, one of a better term.

[@SmithsMuseum]

Both sides had financial incentives for it to be the other side's fault. Nothing other than the wreckage could prove it one way or the other. Applying both solutions would be fine, if we had a system in place to determine the efficacy of those solutions. But as far as I'm aware, there are none.

[@bobbyg9662]

Egyptians never admit guilt!

[@peterguirguess853]

3:15 maybe his wife did a lousy job packing......lol

[@xxxflywithme]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@Noname-gh5ec]

People also scream in roller coasters

[@georgemichael9106]

Do they have a dollar general and a Walmart there asking for a friend.

[@ayoubm.1002]

in this case, airbus would be more safer by limiting attitude of the plane

[@bbalderston125]

I've been all over the world, but I'm sorry, I'm scared of the Middle East. It's a region I'll never visit.

[@jackiwheeler6963]

I can relate

[@lizhjelmeseth5485]

How could vertigo affect a pilot, experienced pilots?

[@toolate9494]

Why would such an "ace" pilot be flying with such a substandard ultra budget airline?

[@denawiltsie4412]

Near home and the pay might have been competitive. Remember many of the jobs may be union and he might have been reduce to flight engineer with another airline. A good resume doesn't always get you the best job.

[@thesilentgeneration]

Nope, Nope, Nope, I simply will not file. All is well until the plane gets a mind of its own. Sure, statistically it is safer than driving but if you happen to be on the plane going down, your chances for survival are slim to none.

[@corysexton3970]

Are you serious? I think this card will arrive before me

[@DDee-kj3mf]

20:28 - Transaero airplane

[@WAJDIflah]

Bottom line: avoid third world airlines.

[@criminallyautistic8372]

Preach

[@CW-rx2js]

This has happened with many western airlines

[@hood_TheJoker]

so basically you're saying cockpit complacency and Captain bullying was the cause of all lives lost....ok got it

[@temu_keepitrealreal1016]

Well actually whenever i see mr david learmont the safety editor giving his 2 cents on these crashes in almost all videos he talks and blames pilots should have done this that .. and sounds like everything is soo perfect picture .. to be executed .. problem is no one knows what the pilots and crew are going through at 35000 feet .. we can sit here all day spliting hairs and commenting .. while lives are gone. . So mr david ... its easy for you to sit at the ground and criticise the pilots or break down the steps and this and that...try being God forbid .. in their shoes while the plane is coming crashing down..

[@nikanoru13]

Presenting a half baked concoction about being the pilots fault without a shred of evidence gives zero credibility to this conclusion and looks more like a cover up story

[@InsectPolitician]

Damn

[@aneesahmed2541]

Most accidents in aviation happen during taking off or landing so pilots have little time to react. Sadly this plane also was one of them. Other problems I have seen is ritered military pilots taking over civilian aviation and making decisions like they made in the military. Military pilots should also be banned from flying civilian airplanes as mindset of a civilian and military person is much different.