The Creality K1C: A Better Pick Than The Bambu Lab P1S?!

[@thenextlayer]

Thanks for watching! If you enjoyed, please leave a like so my algorithmic overlord doesn’t frown upon me.

[@DIMARADOVEDITZ]

btw they are thinking to make a multicolor option for your printer

[@Mr.Laidukas]

I ordered K1C and received week ago 2024-03-01 and it does not have dampeners in the door hinges. I was expecting that from early model reviews, but unfortunately my doors are flapping loose.

[@anthonylong5870]

Can you do a Thorough review of the Flashforge Adventurer 5M? That machine right now is flying off shelves at the $299 and its a Core XY. I have seen mixed results about build quality and I really would like to know the bottom line on it

[@jamesdean4542]

You should mark this as a sponsored video. They sent you the printer for free that’s a sponsored deal. Reported

[@newCrysis]

Bambu had issues with A1 and recalled/fixed and moved forward. Qidi (my pick) had issues with 3dplus and max and recalled and fixed and moved forward. I hope this trend of customer care continues with Creality also.

[@thenextlayer]

Hope so too.

[@farad37]

Correct me if I'm wrong - Qidi provided their 1st gen plus3 customers with options to fully replace the printer - Creality just introduced a new model w/ the original still being offered. Did 1st gen K1 customers get the same Qidi customer support?

[@michelvangent3683]

I bought my K1 3 or 4 months ago and it has the newer extruder so no problems only added the camera and rooted it. I really like it so far. I don't know if all buyers that where in the early models where able to get an updated extruder.@@farad37

[@probably3dprintingsomething]

Lmao no, Creality service is dog shit.

[@mariospanayiotou6644]

@@probably3dprintingsomething yeap. and theres no way in hell they will ever do a full recall of anything.

[@3DandTeePrinting]

Agreed. It's not the K1 we wanted but its the K1 we deserved (in the first place). I got 2 versions of the K1. 1st Version (do not own): Launch Version; The BAD K1 that everyone hears about. Bad aluminum internals extruder, bad hotend, bad alignment and leveling, easily hit by the cable chain WEAK filament engagement switch, 2nd Version (Purchased Aug 2023) had a STEEL (POLISHED SWITCH) Extruder and stronger filament gear switch . It had BLACK silcone covered hotend that had bad thermistor connection that would fail and throw a Error 004 (went throw 3 of them in 2 months before they sent CURRENT Hotend available for K1 and K1 Max. 3rd Version (Purchased Nov 2023) had New Redesigned extruder with better filament path through the extruder (UNPOLISHED SWITCH and NON Unicorn Nozzle) and tighter switch (Now used in the V3 Core XZ). It also now comes with the redesigned RED Silcone covered Hotend with better thermistor connection (These are current Replacements being sold everywhere for K1 and K1 Max). 4th Version (do not own (yet)) SEEMS to be the K1C. I am not seeing any of the K1C upgrades on the newest one I have (3rd Gen).

[@Cecina-]

The newer k1 and k1max will include the new tri unicorn nozzle but brass instead. The k1 max will include an extra hardened nozzle.

[@EFLO3D]

Why are you still buying them lol

[@maxmusterman6030]

@@EFLO3D Maybe because it got improved

[@clutchboi4038]

Ah bro that's so badass. You went to directly talk to the software team in China and it seems you directly were able to bring change to this product for the better in giving users access to full blown klipper. Cool af. Thanks for the hard work!

[@onr-o1h]

One of the key takeaways here is that "China" isn't just some gray mass that pumps out faceless products (like many of us living in West instictively might think), but there are actual human beings developing the products. 😅

[@Trillineatus]

@@clutchboi4038 thats why china is so ahead with their industry, because they accept feedback and put their ego aside. The west will just say yeah yeah whatever, we know better because its our designed product.

[@clutchboi4038]

​@@Trillineatus I disagree. I think it is because they have the cheapest wages and are willing to basically consider every piece of information they come across as open source lmao. The reason they are more willing to just let customers to load regular klipper is because it would be hypocritical if they didn't do that, considering how they will basically take klipper, slightly modify it into a proprietary system and then sell for a profit. there's no reason why collaboration like this can't happen in the states; it does regularly. Furthermore China is just further ahead at producing good enough products for dirt cheap. That is what they are leading in, not raw innovation like what comes from the west. Ironically this video is just more evidence of that lol. The thing is in the west, we highly value intellectual property and that can get in the way of the quickest innovation as possible. We still are the leaders in innovation regardless. China is good at copying that innovation for pennies. If you want that to be the definition of "ahead in industy", then that is your opinion. That being said, I respect China in most things they do. I like their logical views of considering everything open source even it it is ethically questionable and building on those ideas. I believe that people who have the ability and work ethic to do that can be great leaders in innovation one day. Reverse engineering things is what a lot of great innovators do. They just aren't their yet and their whole industry is generally focused on copying instead of real innovation. That's why their biggest company is like what alibaba? A company that sells copied stuff for cheap. In the west we have big name companies like Tesla, AMD and Microsoft that actually lead innovation. I am not hating just my honest view on the situation.

[@dirkk00815]

Customers want a working product, who would have guessed.

[@Ben...---...]

I totally agree with this standpoint. And I honestly wonder why this wasn’t as much of a priority in the past few years. That should be the most simple requirement, “actually works consistently”

[@pyrokinetic_666]

​@@Ben...---...It only became a priority once Bambu continued to dethrone them, even after the K1. Why be proactive when you can be reactive?

[@probably3dprintingsomething]

​@@pyrokinetic_666 Creality is never pro or reactive lol. They just copy IP and do the whole middle school thing of like "yours prints 500mm? Well ours is SIX hundred. *Sticks out tongue.* Without actually innovating, all at. 😂

[@snuggie1849]

@@probably3dprintingsomething nah i had a creality and it was hot garbage. Swapped to a bambu lab printer and its night and day difference

[@jeremysutton22]

Not creality. I've spent more money getting my cr10s5 working than on the initial printer, sunk cost fallacy at its finest

[@TimothyStovall108]

I've had my K1 Max now for about a month, and it has been amazing! I rooted it within the first week, and it is so versatile. Love the AI detection, as it has saved me wasted filament on a couple of prints due to adhesion issues due to wrong settings. Having it be open source, and not a closed system, was a big selling point for me over getting an X1C, as well as the larger build volume. I've done a lot of upgrades to it, and have made it my own, with the smaller pulleys sitting on my desk for my next mod. It came with the updated extruder, and hardened steel nozzle, which I quickly swapped out for a .6mm nozzle. I've printed PA-6 Carbon no problems, as well ABS and ASA with relatively little issues. Can't wait to get another! lol

[@kurtbilinski1723]

I hear you, and it's good to have choices, but saying that it's wonderful - after upgrading this, that, and the other - is exactly why people go with the X1. They want to make 3D-printed parts, not have a 3D printer project.

[@sierraecho884]

This is a very important video for every potential K1 buyer. Because of all those issues and the price I got the Flashforge Adventurer 5M instead which also was cheaper. Don´t forget the K1C has still a smaller print surface. 220x220 vs 256x256

[@jefffarmer9200]

I've had open source printers and spent 80% of my time tweaking/fixing. It was miserable. I tried Bambu Labs and it just works. It's been the most fun I could have had 3d printing. I don't care a bit if it's open source or not, I care it if will print consistently. 2 weeks after getting the Bambu Labs printer I hauled my Creality out the the trash. Best use for it.

[@mr.k970]

Same Here!

[@wonderbread6100]

dang man shoulda sold the hotend to someone for a side project.

[@s13kuminachu]

Yup. Brand new to printing. Buddy tried to get me into a K1. I said nope, I don't want to tune/tinker, I want to print. He's still working through issues with his K1. I'm printing. Could care less if it's open source. It effin works and does what I need it to as a novice consumer. I'm blown away at the quality with .08 layers with pla. I'm a bambu sucker, I buy only thier filament, they did the tinkering and tuning. It works.

[@fern_v]

@@s13kuminachu I tried 3 k1's all were junk from the factory...

[@s13kuminachu]

@fern_v 3! Man you have patience. Did you get a bambu?

[@CrimeImi]

Thanks for your review. I was struggling to make the decision between the K1C and the P1S, as I was aware of the Bamboo closed system, but I was scared of the quality of the K1C. I have an Ender 3 Pro for about 4 years, which is fully modded already, so I will go with the K1C to keep the possibilities of the modifications while enjoying the open source FW, so I can continue to use Klipper. Thanks again

[@mike61704]

I have been a Creatily customer for 5 years and while it is nice to be able to customize everything, sometimes a simple solution is the best. I recently bought a bambu x1 carbon and have to say, it feels like a different thing. I have had so many creatily printers and bambu really did something special. It feels like Microsoft vs Apple again. Windows tries really hard but fails and stumbles so many times to get there, while Apple just puts stuff out there that works.

[@ChosenOne444SC]

Just bought me a K1C and a bunch of different color filaments from Creality Store last week and it’ll be to me this Saturday. I’m glad it already shipped before the Fire in California because that’s where it comes from.

[@kurtbilinski1723]

I built my own 3D printer from scratch. I learned a lot, and once it was working pretty well, I turned to using it as an actual tool - you know, actually making stuff instead of messing with it. After dealing with failures on parts I actually wanted to, you know, Use, I had enough and bought a Bambu X1. No regrets.

[@2ndprotocol]

Just how close a look did you take at this printer? They withdrew the marketing about all metal extruder some time back, as it isn't. I also thought the pulleys on the K1C are smaller, not larger and that bed cant really be called flat can it? Have you tried it at different temps to see just how much it distorts with temp?

[@DefenseIsLacking]

Yeah I’m wondering the same

[@bthemedia]

Best summary of the K1C - thank you! You’ve finally won me over the Bambu P1S which I have been having a hard time turning away from.

[@a1angler1964]

Great review. Only printer that I’ve had was an Anycubic mega x. It works flawlessly. It’s just slow. I wanted to print carbon fiber so I went with K1C. About 100 hrs so far. Zero problems. Extremely fine detailed flawless 3d prints. I was worried after I decided to buy after reviewing some reviews or Creality. Turns out I made a lucky choice and it’s extremely fast. Would you please do reviews of 3 d scanners? Thanks

[@capthowdy126]

ive just recently got a p1s from bambu lab with the ams an its completely changed my expectation from my printers, the p1s was the 13th printer to my collection but everything about it was better than my older machines an its made me realize how much 3d printing has advanced in the past 5 yrs, i knew they had gotten faster but the ease of use of the machines has gotten alot better from what im used to using so im looking at selling off some of my older machines an replacing them with some new machines, ive never been someone who picked a brand an stuck with it but i do have 3 creality machines ender 3 3 max and ender 5 an i ended up with 2 flsun qq-s pro but the rest was gotten because of the differences from what i already had but at this point delta and corexy is going to be my picks, an the new creality ender 3 v3 corexy bed slinger is one id like to try an i had considered the k1 but went with bambu lab p1s instead and im so glad i did but at the same time that k1 max is really tempting an does deal with my biggest complaint about the p1s and thats build volume, thats become something i have to have for alot of the stuff i make so at least a 300x300 build plate for a bambu lab printer would def be my next buy if they release something like that b4 i buy another machine. i never was a big prusa guy either but that new prusa xl looks really nice but i dont know if multiple tool heads would be worth the money for me when something like the ams is available, i dont know how well the mmu work from prusa now but i know when it first came out i read alot of ppl having issues, but if they've worked out all of the bugs for it i wouldn't mind trying one of there multicolor setups with a mk4 or xl with a single tool head cause i cant really see any good reason to spend 500 bux for a 2nd tool head but im def going to check out some of these newer printers.

[@renegadebiker24]

I’m going to get my K1C this Friday and I am looking forward to getting it, but I am also going to get the silicone socks, as well as brass and hardened nozzles next week, as well as a Maintenance kit that I am supposed to get today. One thing that I don’t think is discussed is the fact that there’s no warranty on any printers that are sold on Amazon, when it comes to things that I think you should discuss on your channel.

[@ryanb9749]

@@renegadebiker24 how'd it go?

[@Stuntman707]

This has me interested. I’m comparing between Creality and Bambu for my printer upgrade. Having the software unlocked out the box is a big deal. I unlocked so much performance from my Ender 3 v2 when I converted it to Klipper but lost the use of the local screen.

[@wesleyfish6635]

Got my K1 mid Jan, no problems extruding, running a lot of ABS, a few mods, top riser, filament runout relocation, and i feed out of a drybox beside the printer. Door is still loose!!! But i haven’t had a problems with that. Swapped the nozzle for a hardened unit and am printing ABS CF with no problems. Oh and i am using double sided pei build plate..

[@amessersmith]

The K1 Max doesn't use its lidar for bed leveling, it uses it for pressure advance and flow calibration... relatively poorly I might add. I believe the biggest issue with the k1 series on first layer issues is doing a bed mesh too early while the bed is still heating up and warping as a result. The thin aluminum plate on the k1 and k1max tends to change quite a bit as it heats up, and even at temp needs a few minutes to finish soaking.

[@probably3dprintingsomething]

Yeah that'll happen when you just try to copy a design and don't actually understand why it's applied. 😂

[@BrickMeet]

My K1C doesn‘t have more friction on the door hinges. It’s as loose as the original K1.

[@thenextlayer]

Odd…

[@timothyscherer3263]

Just bought a K1, it was a learning experience. I had to replace the hot end, the extruder, and the pcmb in order to get it to work properly. I printed the first test print and failed every print after until I replaced essentially the entire print head. For what I paid to fix it I could have bought a K1C and a few spools. The part that really gets me is to hold me over until everything was fixed I bought a Bambu A1 mini with the AMS. That has been an absolute rockstar.

[@jackgamble6120]

I just ordered my K1C along with the Creality Space Pi Filament Dryer that you have displayed in your video. I signed up for their "Upgrade Event" and received a coupon code for 15% off the $559 K1C price and 15% off the $69 filament dryer price. Paid for it thru PayPal and got an extra 2% off the order for a total of 17% off. Thanks for your review...I look forward to receiving mine too.

[@OEFOIFOUPVet]

Cancel your order, I've owned 4 creality printers sent the K1 back, broken out of the box, bad hotend, the other 3 are in various stages of being broken, my 1 bambu has printed more successfully than all combined, creality is garbage, spend a little more and save yourself the headache of working on a creality printer as a project instead of your prints.

[@jackgamble6120]

Thanks for feedback. I'll give K1C a shot...but if any issues...will not hesitate to send it back.@@OEFOIFOUPVet

[@petercallison5765]

@@OEFOIFOUPVet My Bambu broke after 3 weeks.

[@dougbas3980]

I will stay with Bambu P1s with AMS and hardened update for hard materials. It does look like they fixed the K1. Thank you.

[@logicalfundy]

Thanks for the review! Looks like next time I'm considering a new printer, Creality will be on the table again. It does look like they're trying to do things differently than they used to. Although it is annoying that all of the quick swap designs so far have been proprietary, rather than coming together to come up with a standard.

[@metrogp]

Creality... Not once again... My 1st 3d printer, ender 3 v2, came warped... fixed it Needed a 2nd printer.... Buy a 2nd ender 3 v2 ... Modified both But always Warped frame Warped Bed Random clogs and string Even bought a creality spider v3 and make it DD , and it really make it better... Tried to print a the100 printer, frame came warped because of ender 3 tolerances... Bought a bambu P1s... Oh man, i really never want to see creality ever again... Nice review btw! Hugs from portugal!

[@KevrenBey]

Hi, I bought a Creality K1 C brand-model printer but I have been trying for 2 days and I can't print. Namely, I put the filament in extrusion mode; I heat it up to 250 -260 or even 270 degrees. When I push it with my hand, the filament flows. But when I don't push it with my hand, there is no flow. I try the demo ship print in its own memory and there is zero filament flow. The nozzle lock is on. I take the filament to the nozzle tip; but for some reason it can't feed automatically. I couldn't understand if it was my fault or the device was faulty. This is my first 3D printer. I preferred Creality because it was highly praised, but I really regret it.

[@sleykin]

I received a new K1C on April 9th, 2024 and had issues with the AI camera until I turned off the first layer detection as that is a LIDAR thing and K1C doesn't have LIDAR. You only want the first switch on and then it will detect things popping off the plate or squirting a rat's nest. So only the first switch needs to be on, the other 2 are for LIDAR. I can't find a retrofit kit for LIDAR on the K1C but I would love to have it.

[@BarnesysBuilds]

I've have a K1C and a P1S in a small print farm printing ABS all day everyday and after using the P1S for 8 months it has failed with no real support from Bambulabs. People have a go at Creality but their support is far better than Bambulabs and after 1 year of continous operation the K1C is still printing ABS parts all day every day just as good as the day i got it. I have K1 Max's as well as the original K1 and have had issues with those but the K1C has been great. I would probably recommend the K1C over the P1S purely because of the stainless steel rods over the carbon rods of the P1S, that is the failure point for the P1S, they seize up over time i (wth ABS, ASA) due to heat warp and new cheaper steel bearings. K1C steel rods can be lubricated and that just keeps them going forever.

[@NerdAlert-s4g]

I bought the K1 in August of 2023, and the printer was great for about 2 months, then it had ever problem youtubers talk about, I ended getting rid of it because I couldn't get it fixed! SO I am done with Creality they were less than useless to get it fixed. I donated it to the local library they wanted it for parts for their other K1 printers. I now have two Bambu printers that I love the P1S and the A1 mini. I can't believe how much easier and better the bambu printers are. So when you talked about all the issues with original I can give you 3 other issues ;).

[@Finchyboi14470]

The K1C probes for the brush before it tries to rub anything on it. I haven’t tested it because I still only own the one build plate, but I imagine that if it doesn’t detect a brush it might not try to clean the nozzle on it.

[@ravb.7700]

That is right. If the brush is not there, it will not try to clean the tip. I tested this and that is the case. The brush is just stuck on the build plate using some double sided tape. It will work lose after a while. I found a model where you can glue the brush onto, screw into the printer and then use other build plates.

[@renegadebiker24]

The issue that I have with the K1C is something that I have posted a video of it on my KZbin channel. One issue is the way they have a yellow hot glue on the connector that goes to the thermostat and the thermistor. I will make another video on this issue soon on my channel. The new extruder is another thing that I will discuss on my next video compared to the old one, which as far as I can see is an outdated version and date that came with my original K1C. I have a flow tech nozzle that I am going to install hopefully with the next video. The flow tech nozzle is what can be used to have different types of nozzles from the hardened steel nozzle to the different types of brass nozzles.

[@barrygregg3476]

I have a rooted K1 running klipper with added cam, and hardened nozzles. I love it. For 450 bucks it cant be beat.

[@TheChoyamoya]

Great video. You alluded to it a little bit in the video comparing it to the k1 Max. And it also see in the comments you mentioned that the k1 Max had some warp bed issues. I would appreciate if you put together a quick video on the overall comparisons between the K1C and the k1 Max. At this point I'm leaning towards the k1 Max just for the build volume. Thanks!

[@thenextlayer]

I actually never got the Max! Maybe if there’s a K1C Max I’ll get it.

[@BurittoSandwich]

Chep had warping issues with the K1 Max as well and it seemed to be the smooth bed surface (A Plate) not having a good enough grip for large scale models. Swapping to a textured PEI bed (B Plate) off Amazon seemed to have fixed it if I remember correctly.

[@Novagunner]

im a newbie 3d printer user and i got the K1C. i personally believe the set up and software was great for my uses ! well see when i need to step things up!

[@MichelVermeulen2612]

I have the k1c and it's absolutely a great machine. I printed so much with it,never had 1 issue. It makes super nice work, and I can back that up with the projects I still have at home made by the k1c. It's far more superior then the first k1 series.

[@John_Ridley]

I was having frustrating problems with my old Sapphire Pro, and decided to just ditch it and spring for a new printer. I didn't do any significant research and initially ordered a Flashforge. But then I watched a review that it was locked down. I came here and watched this and once you said they'd opened the firmware, I ordered a K1C. Fingers crossed.

[@LostChaos1313]

So, as an owner of an early k1, I have updated the extruder, replaced the stock hotend, raised the roof, printed out the 270° hinges. As a person who likes to fiddle with tools, it's been mostly fun.

[@doro626]

have you added the carbon filter? If so did you buy a K1-c replacement filter or did you source the filter and just print a cowl to hold it?

[@LostChaos1313]

@doro626 I vent the exhaust outside, so no carbon filter

[@doro626]

Ok thanks. @@LostChaos1313

[@3DPrinterGeek]

I got a k1 back when they first come out and damm the issues iv had to deal with my k1 to the point I went mad completely upgrading the machine to eliminate the issues and to be honest my k1 almost prints better than my bambu p1p and iv had nothing but issues with inconsistent extrusion on the outer walls with the p1p my k1 does the same but not as bad as my p1p and hopefully I won't have ghosting anymore as I'm completely replacing my motors and pully wheels and for the extruder issue I'm gonna upgrade it to the orbiter extruder kit hopefully this will fix the inconsistent wall quality massively iv even got my self a linear rail on my x axis I'm trying to do it with the y axis at the moment aswell haha 😄

[@Adamhc75]

Hmm... awesome review!! I recently bought myself a Flashforge adventurer 5m pro on Amazon as my experience with creality in the past has left a lot to be desired. I wonder if maybe I should have given this printer a chance. But then again, the Flashforge just works great right out of the box. I like the fact that creality has granted root access, though.. I am still trying to figure out how to install klipper on the flashforge as the klipper Flashforge provides is just a standard klipper file set.

[@Mr.Laidukas]

I ordered K1C and received week ago 2024-03-01 and it does not have dampeners in the door hinges. I was expecting that from early model reviews, but unfortunately my doors are loose like in those early K1 reviews.

[@thenextlayer]

Shitty!

[@olafb.2929]

A good review, thanks!

[@omergeorge]

אוהב אותך יאח תודה על הביקורת הכנה😊

[@enzodesousa6911]

I have had my k1 for about 1 month now, and I'm happy to say that I haven't had any of the problems the first generation of ,1printers had. It works perfectly

[@whydnot]

Did you keep the printer?

[@vhntech]

Thanks for the review. If I'm not mistaken, it looks like you forgot to mention the unbelievable loud noise K1 does while printing. I'll check if that's really fixed with the K1C, or just a workaround.

[@JaroslavVazac]

Unrestricted root access is the main benefit and its the reason why I staying with Creality for so long.

[@diegogiagnacovo7512]

Great video! My son wants a 3d printer for xmas (he is 10). I am debating the K1C, Bambulab P1S or this Flashforge Adventurer 5M pro I keep seeing. Which would you suggest? I have 0 3D printer experience but I love to research. All of them are just under $600 right now.

[@Somun-a]

I don't think they have the quality control part dialed in yet (or maybe they never will) as I see half of the reviews of K1C (all very recent) on their website had some significant issues. Good thing that K1C was unobtanium a couple weeks ago when I was considering it, so I went with P1S AMS combo. I have a feeling I would be one of those 'lucky' people who got faulty units if I had ordered the K1C.

[@AndreVanDiggelen-wl3fx]

Question, First-time viewer: I noticed that they also have dryer fans as an accessory. Is that really needed for the K1 Max ? Should I also go ahead and grab an extra build plate? They are having some bundle sales right now, but I'm leaning towards the Bambu PS1 because I can get the media spool kit, which seems to be a very handy device for color printing. Thanks in advance-

[@NVVD1117]

We have never owned one or used one. My wife wants one for Christmas. Would you recommend this one or the Bambu lab P1S

[@Reds3DPrinting]

Hey Jonathan! Seriously great video! I just posted a video today actually where I show a work around on how you can avoid using Creality Print slicer with the v3 and K1C! It works with basically any slicer and you get access to the web UI again! Im not just tryin to advertise myself though.. I noticed Creality also only sent a single sided build plate with the v3 but it didnt even come with a wiper! I think that Is like my main beef with the v3... I hate having to constantly clean that filament wipe spot. Just doesnt make sense to me for them to do the v3 like that the way they did with the wiper. with the v3 they had the perfect bedslinger kinematic for a MMU also. Not sure why they didnta wait on that tbh. I predict that a larger sized ender 3 v3 is going to be coming out soon, the v3 max and then shortly after that the creality MMU will be out. Mark my words

[@Artimage84]

Is there a reason you've not looked at the K1 Max? Is it just that Creality hasn't sent you one? Because the Carbon Fibre focus of the K1C didn't draw me in over the Max. Though that cold swappable nozzle is a nice touch the Max doesn't have.

[@thenextlayer]

Yeah I declined to review it if I recall correctly because I wasn’t in Israel at the time due to the war breaking out. So I don’t have one.

[@0Logan05]

2 Weeks ago now?..How on Earth did I miss This Video?.. Would Have been very beneficial, regardless..This is another Home Run!…Good Detail, Good Notes, Great insight… Rad🤙🏻

[@3dexperiments]

Creality has done CoreXY before this, my Ender 6 is one such example.

[@trugbilddrachen]

Also ender 7

[@AI5HV]

Great video. I am looking at the Creality K1 Max as opposed to the K1 that you keep mentioning in the video. Do you know if they fixed the issues that you mentioned with the K1 in the K1Max version ?

[@thenextlayer]

Not sure sorry. I don’t have a max. Hope they’ll do a K1C max though.

[@iroo_h7604]

What do you think of it in comparison to the P1S without the AMS? They are about the same price and I'm not sure which one to go with.

[@marcuskethler9908]

Bump

[@GROGU123]

@@marcuskethler9908 For similar price I bought a Bambu and bought the AMS. Now I can’t live without the AMS. Bambu just works, I was put off by my creality because they abandoned my first printer in a jenky state and never gave software updates later to make it better. Bambu gets updates regularly to support newer filament profiles. They also sell PLA and PETG for $15 a roll for their refills when you buy 4 at a time, with free shipping. I’ve been buying their filament because it works flawlessly and had automatic rfid detection.

[@00Ayt]

have you had one? Which one did you bought?

[@maxmusterman6030]

I will get the K1C, open system and better campera and nice display just sounds awesome to me. Camera quality on the P1S isnt too great and a bit laggy for what i saw.

[@greatmatze]

❤ thanks for that :) i have to say: open source was the reason i ordered a creality k series printer over a bambu!

[@adammalik4350]

Thank you for your review, it has cleared up many of my doubts. This is especially valuable to me as I am currently waiting for the delivery of my K1C. I am just starting my 3D printing adventure. I have a question, if you can answer: which company's filament do you recommend? Best regards, Adam

[@thenextlayer]

Https://jle.vi/polymaker is the best out there as far as I’m concerned.

[@fern_v]

My Creality business model theory: It is cheaper to over charge or build in return shipping/customer service gaslighting into cost to build, and not have to pay a QC department. They use cheap labor for Manufacturing, Sales/Customer gas-lighting and Shipping. Then have the customer do the run-in QC for them, and roll the dice on people missing the return window gaining a higher non-return of bad printers. I got 2 bad "new" k1's out of the box off Amazon and 1 bad refurbished from Creality Official Refurbished (refurb, thinking I was beating the repair times since both my others came non-functional... that idea failed. It came with no screen and they could not get me a screen). I have one half failed benchy to show for 2 months of my time and 3 Creality printers. I guess KZbinrs only get shipped the "working" ones to bait the rest of us.

[@Us3rN4m32]

Bought a k1c and the vfa issues aren’t fixed, also the leadscrews are wiggly out of the box and it was missing the door handle.. terrible out of the box experience

[@RT3702]

I got a K1C yesterday, it was printing absolutely fine until the 4th print. halfway through the first layer, no more filament was coming out. Long story short, somewhere between the Bowden tube and the nozzle, the filament got jammed. almost the whole head had to be taken apart. Not ideal. don't even know what the cause was (as in, what caused the filament to get jammed). the plastic wasn't fully melted as it was just above the entrance of the nozzle. its printing fine now, but I don't know how long it will last. i believe the issue might have something to do with the extruder assembly just based on where the jam was.

[@UnitSe7en]

You will always have to fully disassemble a hot-end if filament jams/clogs in it, so that's not a K1C issue specifically. Unless it happens again, it's difficult to diagnose an exact cause. But if you suspect your filament snapped inside the extruder, then your filament may be too wet, and you can try reducing pressure on the spring on the extruder drive wheel.

[@ethansanchez3317]

So should I get k1c it I had a bad experience before with creality and an Ender 5 s1 I don’t want to go through that again i just want to know if this is a good printer

[@chairzombie8378]

No recommend avoiding creality

[@antaysweldocodingclub]

Hi can you give some update review for the k1c, looking forward to it. planning to buy a new 3d printer as a beginner hobbyist between p1s and k1c.

[@00Ayt]

I am also beginner and confused between p1s and k1c. Have you decided one of them?

[@CrimeImi]

@@00Ayt If you guys are completely beginner, go for the P1S. The K1C is more for the thinkerers.

@@CrimeImi Hi, I am also looking or my first 3d printer, why for total beginners the P1S is better? I have seen that there is not so much setup for the K1c or at least in such videos like this is not mentioning that you need to do extra X number of steps before starting?

[@CrimeImi]

You might see my other comment under this video. As a beginner you might need a hardware/software combo which is fully composed and tested while it's constantly maintained. I like the open source software environment way better, where I have the options to modding, improving or mess up everything. 😀 Then fix it.

[@BaghaShams]

How does it use the nozzle brush? Do you need add certain gcode to your prints for it to use it at certain points?

[@thenextlayer]

It seems to be in the print start macro already.

[@michelvangent3683]

It does it from the firmware i guess. Even a normal k1 with latest firmware moves to that spot, probes and whipes the nozzle. At least mine does. It probes because if you don't have the brush it simple whipes the nozzle slowly on the buildplate and that actualy does take some debries of the nozzle.

[@alpenmerlin]

I would like to see more information about noise while printing in different speeds and with different materials. With the current developments in the 3D printer space, noise becomes an issue for those of us that can't afford a seperate room for 3D printing or are otherwise sensitive to noise. Thanks!

[@buzdovan13]

Its been 8 months, any news now? Should we buy it over p1s?

[@thenextlayer]

It’s quite good! No complaints. But no multicolor if that’s a thing for you

[@seanswales1813]

I have a later K1, which I managed to purchase for only £360 pounds, in time limited deals, direct from them! A whole lot less than any bambu XY printer. The new extruder design has been fine, no issues, other than one, when I ran a temperature torture test one time, it jammed and had to clean the nozzle (since replaced to a new one) so even that was not extruder really. The only issue I find, is that the filament is awkward to load in sometimes. Tried all sorts of different cuts, but in the end, as long as I cut/file a point on the end, it normally loads without having to release the bowden tube. Never have any bed sticking issues, though I do use 3d lac, mainly so I don't have to clean the bed each time, I might go 10 prints out more, and just give a light dusting each time. For disclosure, I also have the use of a Bambu X-Carbon, with AMS, which is a great machine. A real work horse, with the AMS, which is brilliant. But.... I just love my K1, it works, I can mess around with it, I've added all the whistles and bells, filters, camera etc, and it does everything I ask of it.

[@howevisual7099]

I love the channel but as a video pro I’ve gotta recommend you boost your vocals. Every time an ad comes ones my speakers are on the cusp of waking everyone late at night up since I turned the volume up so much. Keep making buddy, your content has been invaluable!

[@howevisual7099]

And the logo stinger at the end just shook the house lol

[@thenextlayer]

Thanks for the tip we will do that!

[@envt]

Love your videos!

[@agent_luca]

Hello i want to buy the k1c but want to know if the software is now good or still not

[@thenextlayer]

So far so good!

[@broken4214]

Just a nitpick, at 0:53 you say that the K1 was the first CoreXY Creality printer. It was actually the Ender 6.

[@Antoan108]

Would you suggest the k1c or the flashforge 5m pro? They are the same price for me.

[@thenextlayer]

Haven’t tried the flash forge, but I’ve been impressed so far with the K1 C

[@Antoan108]

@@thenextlayer thanks

[@DIMARADOVEDITZ]

yes im subscribed

[@dkev0]

Creality sells the Textured PIE plate for this machine on Amazon. Does not have the brush. So far the K1C has been steller.

[@FreedomToRoam86]

I like the Bambu ecosystem…. But my next, bigger printer is likely to be a Creality or Sovol, w open source and tons of updates and more flexibility in nozzles etc. and especially I like that they have their own cloud solution, too.

[@ritiksadh1999]

Does it support's open source ERCF v2 kits with 12 channel?

[@thenextlayer]

With some tweaking probably

[@ritiksadh1999]

@@thenextlayer DOES BAMBULAB A1 SUPPORTS ERCF ?

[@leadf00t]

Great video! Does the K1C have a heated chamber? I can't find it in Creality's marketing info.

[@thenextlayer]

Nope.

[@ronnylivbom9721]

What program are you use at 12.50 in the video?

[@thenextlayer]

Did you miss the part on top where it says "STILL TOP SECRET" ? Can't tell you!

[@hellfighter67]

Looking past the k1c, I never knew that smooth bed sheets can be torn up by petg and stuff. I have had a smooth bed on my prusa mk3s+ for like a year now (cus I'm too broke to get a diffrent one, lol) and I printed petg and asa on it, and besides one asa print getting stuck to it and having to use a razor to remove it, I never had any other problems 🤔. Although it is very much not good for flexible filament, I had to use a glue stick for those to stick

[@EFLO3D]

Idk why people buy a bottom end manufacturers printer and expect top tier performance and features.

[@austinwyrick9089]

@EFLO3D you must be a salesman for the "industrial market".

[@StraightUpRC]

I am literally about to buy one of these 2 printers... This video is assisting in that choice very much so...

[@john1182]

the crazy part is i have my ender 3 v3 se running at two thirds the spped of this with a sonic pad and the new ceramic hot end (the exact same as this printer has). im liking the cross ompatability accross the line

[@PCFabien101]

I got spooked with my K1 Max and returned it after it dugged into the bed so hard. I bet they are doing a lot better but it took some time for them to fix the issue with an update.

[@doron910]

What a great video. thank you!

[@thenextlayer]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TheOfficialDarkICE]

Please stop calling the k1c open source. They still aren't comliant with the GPL. Various klipper modules are shipped in cpython in binary form.

[@ledzpg]

I've bought a K1 Max last week, and received it with the smaller pulleys, unicorn nozzle and magnetic door outlines. So far, so good. Oh, and it came with a warped bed too. 🙄

[@AnonymousHippo5]

is the Creality K1C a open source printer?

[@thenextlayer]

Mostly

[@baljazz]

Will there new ams system work with it tho?

[@Rejken]

Hi, Are you using Orcaslicer with your Creality K1C? Having difficulties with printing a small logo using PETG filament.

[@Euer_Ernst]

Am I the only one who wonder about the buildplate issues in 3D printing. Because still after several years of printing on the first bed of my sidewinder x1, i never had a problem with to less or to high first layer adhesion. Or am I just lucky with this particular build plate? The only thing i have to take care is the right temperature of the bed. So far i printed pla, pla+, petg and tpu. I also printed a few parts from abs successfully but I would not recommend this because this hotend is not built for it but the build plate did just fine. So the question is why we don't see this kind of build plate everywhere?

[@tvarohove.j]

i agree with creality k1 series is better than bambulab but creality printers dont have ams

[@koreygray]

I dont know if you tried fluidd but I was able to add the camera for my k1c that way & I had that same error in the helper script. for timelapses I had to modify the print start macro to get it to work

[@petercallison5765]

What was the modification needed, thanks.

[@koreygray]

@@petercallison5765 just copy the START_PRINT macro from helper-script > KAMP > Start_print.cfg to your printer.cfg & add HYPERLAPSE ACTION=START at the end. I also added the macro for QMODE here so it would start in quiet mode

[@nigel5823]

i found out that the k1 camara doe's not work on mailsail it works in fluidd in the camara you need to type creailty in the camara so it works i have np with my K1 just had the new hinges from the k1C mine running perfect from new did have a bed leveling issue where the bed was off slant i sent the bed to the bottom and forced it to level now it perfect level.

[@MidMadn]

Thank You for all of your content. I enjoy your video's. You have a nice studio and produce quality content. I do need to correct you on 1 thing though. Creality's first Core X,Y printer was actually the Ender 6 to the best of my knowledge. This was long before Bambu was even a dream. If anything - Bambu copied the Ender 6 and less known Ender 7 or Voron printers. The Ender 6 came from the factory 90% enclosed also with an available tophat to make it fully enclosed. I have one myself that is pretty heavily modified. Linear Rails and direct drive extruder. The Ender 6 was before the big Klipper craze. Also before input shaping was available in the consumer / off the shelf 3D printer hobby. The Ender 6 shipped with Marlin firmware and also suffers from VFA's.

[@thenextlayer]

Wow! I had no idea and have never heard of it. Thanks!

[@drramtop1576]

Not a surprise, both the Ender 6 and Ender 7 had severe issues and Creality has tried hard to bury its mistakes by pretending they never existed. I owned a couple of Ender 7s and Creality just gave up on them almost immediately, dumped stock on the cheap, and moved on. No spares, no firmware updates, no support.

[@AG-ex6jc]

I do wonder how it compares to the K1 Max. Because do want a bigger build volume tho.

[@Jimpen294x0]

What's with the hammer and sickle on the Crealiity wall?

[@thenextlayer]

Communist stuff ;)

[@tilengtr5747]

Chinese dog eaters moment

[@fleisbester612]

Zionist propaganda

[@GreySectoid]

I have watched some reviewers saying Creality "stole" some open source code not respecting the OSS license, but here you say that they in fact did and publish the full source code, I wonder why there is this conflicting information around?

[@todd636]

Did Creality fix some of the issues you mentioned on the K1 Max? Am tempted to get the K1C, but really want the size of the Max. I have minimal tech skills, so I don't want to get the Max and have to do a lot of fixes and upgrades.

[@drtbantha]

I’m not sure this is the printer for me, but it at least gives me some hope that we’ll see open source models approaching the polished of the Bambu Labs machines in a year or two.