The Cult that Demands Two Slaves a Month

[@sandrag9451]

Being part of hospice care is such meaningful work. That was a major red flag that the teacher or guru rejected the idea!

[@therabbithat]

Sounds like they were great yoga classes. No wonder he got lured in (I listened on Spotify) Cults use not only peak experiences as a hook, but also altered states of consciousness to make us more suggestible. Self-hypnosis was really popular for a while. Then for some reason some people decided to spread a rumour that hypnosis isn't real, which didn't make it any less popular but got it rebranded. It gets incorporated into some mindfulness meditations, into some yoga classes, into other types of meditation (though many already had hypnosis in them and are older than that word), into self-actualization seminars etc etc. and that's fine, but because people have been tricked into believing hypnosis isn't real, they don't recognise when they are being put into a trance, and that makes them more vulnerable. Everyone believes in alerted/alternative states of consciousness like what you get from some drugs, and many believe that you can enter them without drugs, yet somehow hypnosis isn't taken seriously? By default, people are very bad at telling when they are "impaired". E. G. if they are too drunk to drive, if they are working slower and making more mistakes due to tiredness. we are more suggestible when hungry and tired, the same is true for altered states, trances, etc. hence many cults making you fast, or meditate, etc. One way to recognise this is to practice self-hypnosis.

[@pattiendicott9149]

You are absultly right! I'm a State certified hypnotist.

[@maxineetheridge6922]

Rings so many Scientology bells. I guess when you start a cult with no walls, you’ll naturally gravitate toward the same coercive control techniques. The financial investment alone would be a deterrent to leaving.

[@philosopher2king]

That's interesting, I thought they had gone out of business because the three branches I knew of closed down (including the one in the University district the guest talks about) I even read on of Ilchi Lee's books (the Sedona one) and found it to be simplistic and uninteresting. Glad you are bringing attention to this.

[@sgcarney]

I bet they just changed their name.

[@philosopher2king]

@@sgcarney The branches I knew are gone, not just renamed. The nature of this cult is really disturbing, so I'm glad they have less of a market. Good job highlighting it!

[@LungtenWangdi-e9s]

Dear Scott Carney. It really is the state of awakening in the confuse mind created by so called Lamas and Gurus. I know you have been in Bhutan by the way that you mentioned Drukpa Kuenley. At times, I just wondered that it is only me who is antagonist or a devil to the existing practice in Buddhist world. I like the way you make the people aware of all the ills that is portrayed and implicated to the innocent people. I too had bad experiences with Sogyel when i questioned him about the meditative and mindful practices as a curriculum for school children when their level of thinking is just at the surface and innocent. I was dupped as " Ghost" in the public but it did not scare of as I live my own life based on the universal truth. Thereafter, I have given up believing in all lamas and gurus, the Pseudo lamas and Gurus. However, there are good Buddhist practioners as well which I learn to find the truth and peace. Request, my enquiry to the books that you have: Is the Enlightenment Trap and A Death on the Diamond Mountain same? I just wish to state on Moa Tsetong, the Chinese communist leader when he stated : Religion is poison. Even ,the hard core man was not wrong. I am sure he experienced the ill practices of the Buddhist. Cheers.

[@saidraalien6837]

Same thing happened to me with the weeping. The instructor massaged my stomach and when i was holding back weeping he repeated "do not conjure, do no conjure". cried out the full tears. that's the hook. after 10 days i had them figured out and never returned even for a refund.

[@afterthestorm221]

I'm surprised they didn't take the opportunity to have you as a hospice nurse and coerce you into persuading your patients into leaving the organization money.

[@sgcarney]

Brilliant! Your next job is to be a cult-sultant

[@susan-oc9cb]

@@sgcarney Good one, Mr. Carney.🐥🐦🐥

[@asan1050]

Thanks Much!

[@Akeepersplace]

I lived in Denver for 40 years. I remember the dawn yoga studios. I always wondered what happened to them and now I know.

[@yarbarbar]

"grad school took my youth too" 😂😭 so true

[@susan-oc9cb]

medical school took my life

[@marjabeverwijk5630]

Sounds like a very bad experience. People who make you aware of a "problem" that you were previously unaware of, but fortunately they can help you fix it 🚩(of course for a "small" fee).

[@sgcarney]

They're good folks over there.

[@jenrich111]

​@@sgcarneyI don't understand your reply? It's like you replied to another comment or writing just fluff

[@erzsebetkovacs2527]

The understanding of the very early Christian practice of the mortification of the body got a short shrift, I feel. Mr. Carney may not know that these people actively left their community to go and live in the Egyptian desert as a hermit by themselves. Naturally, after some time, hermit communities came into being and became the origin of Western and Eastern Christian monasticism, but that's not how the whole thing started.

[@jaguarazul]

Thanks a lot 🥰👍👏👏👏

[@eerielconstantine5051]

I recommend you also look into the World Mission Society Church of God, also based out of Korea, and the founder is saying they’re a reincarnation of Jesus or something. My sister got into it pretty heavily for a while but she seems to have calmed down thank goodness This group sounds pretty similar, but not as bad crime wise

[@dustindickens3142]

That mystery school sounds like a hermetic order.

[@billcipher_w]

You interrupted him twice w a new question before he could finish and interesting anecdote... just something to consider when conducting future interviews

[@sgcarney]

It's ok to interrupt people as an interviewer. While I am always getting better my job is not only to get people to tell their story, but to keep their story on track. I'm not sure about what specific instance you are pointing to, I will say that I have no intention to be Lex Friedman.

[@Dolsie-tv6mh]

Yes,NY Times used to be tough. Now they are suffering.

[@Dolsie-tv6mh]

It sounds like a pyramid scheme kinda. You bring in 2 people and each person you brought in should bring in 2 or more people as well.

[@drSamovar]

COO - Cult Of One!......that's someone who "believes everything they think" .....ahahahahahahaha

[@sgcarney]

That’s an interesting concept, actually.

[@lisajoannewelsh9824]

Look at twin flames universe

[@sgcarney]

I saw that Netflix has a doc about it.

[@lisajoannewelsh9824]

@sgcarney it's quite incredible to see the evolution of that online community into a full blown cult led by a clearly deluded, eloquent scoundrel. All the elements of a cult in clear progression. Your dawn yoga story was yet more confirmed of the power these groups have to offer community and belonging to vulnerable humans

[@joystarrturk]

It is so funny that the ads showing up for me between your video is some wooanon alpha guru mediation grifter 😂

[@anka1833]

🔥🔥🔥

[@JLBiddle]

Are you still on this?

[@sgcarney]

On what?

[@JLBiddle]

@@sgcarney Are you still on this story? I got involved with them.

[@JLBiddle]

​@@sgcarneyOoohhhh YOU GOT OFFENDED BY 5 F***** WORDS! YOU TOOK IT THE WRONG WAAAAAYYYY YOU LITTLE BABY

[@mindbodysoul9066]

Whipping yourselves with razor blade in Islam?

[@shivapazoki1881]

It is a thing 😅search „Tatbir“ i

[@ameemehrsinclair2684]

@@mindbodysoul9066 No. Crazy people exist in all religions and cultures.

[@mikaelaolsen8835]

Flypaper? Innocent gnat? Has this kid read the Masnavi? If not he should. Then he'd learn about the bird catcher and his nets and know that he is on to something real.