The Cultural Decline of Bob Iger's Disney

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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 The Appeal of Disney
1:45 The Cringe Drips Through
4:51 Sponsored by Manta Sleep!
6:23 Changing of The Guard & Streaming Pivot
9:17 You Can't Have Movies Anymore, Because of Woke
13:02 Competition & Risk Averison
14:12 Disney's Aesthetic Problem
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Disney CEO Bob Iger gave a mea culpa for big losses incurred while launching streaming platforms like Disney+ during an investor conference appearance on Wednesday.
“As we got into the streaming business in a very, very aggressive way, we tried to tell too many stories. Basically we invested too much, way ahead of possible returns. It’s what led to streaming ending up as a $4 billion loss,” Iger told the MoffettNathanson Media, Internet & Communications Conference during a session that was webcast.
Iger addressed a falling out with his hand-picked successor, former Disney CEO Bob Chapek, whose tenure he called out for lavish and misplaced content spending. “It was clear to me that our structure was not working, because we were removing accountability from those that were basically investing the most capital was a mistake,” he argued.

[@kaylasays]

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[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

This whole era of media feels like executives playing mad libs with A.I.

[@carter4069]

is that a chuck pfp

[@taydrabrookshire347]

I dunno why people are blaming the fans when Disney hurt themselves.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Yes. We can definitely blame Disney for this.

[@risaswonderland1751]

Because fans are the one that buy things from Disney.

[@CaulkMongler]

Their egos are too large to accept it’s by their own faults they killed their own cash cow.

[@RillaRooWins]

Maybe because it’s the fans that keep going to see the movies, everyone complains about Disney making too many remakes but they have no problem forking over money to go see them, but then when Disney does release an original movie it bombs.

[@elsiemae5182]

When you were talking about how Disney used to be seen as cool I got flashbacks to all those goth princess edits that would be in buzzfeed list articles💀

[@eatatjoes6751]

I remember those too.

[@courier420winter]

strange aeons has a great video on this 🖤

[@kseni_vely]

Omg I just got flashbacks 🫠

[@camipco]

The wreck it ralph 2 princess scene is trying to capture this vibe

[@cheesecakelasagna]

ngl, i really thought those were cool 😭😭

[@AJ-xc4qe]

Another thing is that they’re over reliant on sequels and remakes than originals. And I’ve noticed that Disney hasn't had a successful live action movie that isn't a live action remake in a long time. Also they sabotage every live action movie that isn't part of the brands they bought or studio they own. I mean, I'd love to see another ORIGINAL PG 13 live action franchise but they don't care.

[@omarherasme6699]

They need to bring Touchstone Pictures back

[@vigneshnehru9822]

Let's be real, the only live action remakes that were genuinely good were Alice in wonderland-1, Maleficent and Cinderella

[@lessismore8533]

@@vigneshnehru9822yah Jungle Book and Cinderella were good

[@bug7055]

Their first big miss was Disney abandoning The Muppets IP after Most Wanted flopped. We haven’t had a Muppets movie since 2014!! :(

[@taydrabrookshire347]

Interesting that this started happening right at the same time as their Marvel and Lucasfilm acquisitions 🤔

[@bug7055]

@@taydrabrookshire347Ooh good call! I never thought about that 😦

[@LovelyLivelyV]

I actually think they abandoned it after that awful Muppets sitcom they made a year later, iirc it flopped worse than Most Wanted

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

All we have left of them aside from a Halloween special, a cancelled show about the electric mayhem, Rizzo’s pizzeria and Muppets 3D vision in Florida, we don’t any new muppets thing

[@bug7055]

@@LovelyLivelyV Ohh the ABC adult comedy? I liked it! But yeah it it flopped hard :(

[@mplbooks]

Okay, but he's right about Episode IX. That whole tug-of-war between Abrams and Johnson ruined the whole sequel trilogy.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

It should've been johnson all along

[@K.C-2049]

@@aeoligarlic4024 big agree. Last Jedi is literally the only Star Wars movie I ever even think about re watching these days. the OT has a ton of nostalgia obviously, but Last Jedi tries to do something different and interesting and I respect it for that.

[@orboakin8074]

Yes, that and the fact that disney, abrams and co, simply never had a plan for their star wars movies😅

[@StephaniedeBritoLeal]

I gotta say, I think the problem wasn't the directors but Disney wanting to have a new trilogy now right now idc just stitch them together idc who's getting a bad rep for it 😅 the entire fiasco of the new trilogy Lays obviously on executive meddling and changing their minds accordingly to their estimated revenue sheets

[@Elemental_Entity]

​@@aeoligarlic4024Johnson did more damage to the sequels than any director could have. There is a reason his movies box office had a big sharp decline from TFA. More than Empire and AoTC from their precessors.

[@MylingCyrus]

The girl they got to write the i want song for Wish didnt have any idea what the movie was even about. She got thrown to the wolves. Completely set up to fail

[@winifredeghrudje9427]

I feel sorry for Julia. She definitely grew up with Disney in the 90s. She expressed her joy to be apart of this huge project only for the whole internet to dunk on the songs and rearrange the lyrics :/

[@Volvagia1927]

The lyricist on Wish was the girl who wrote ISSUES. It wasn't going to be any better, even if she DID know. That's lamer than the idea of Mike Posner on lyrics for Frozen II.

[@Volvagia1927]

@@winifredeghrudje9427 I am kinda sorry for her, but only in the sense of "Wow, Disney. You couldn't see how 'clearly not ready for this' she was?"

[@hibikuokudan]

Yeah, it absolutely wasn't fair to Julia. If she'd known more, the songs likely would have been WAY better

[@0jaepi]

Your vid reminded me of the Disney supercut. Just remarkable editing, bringing back all the memories 🥲 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIrFdISlrMidrZI

[@talonthehand]

I just watched a four hour KZbin video on a Disney hotel, so this seems timely

[@mj__279]

Link?? That sounds like fun

[@fusetunes]

fellow jenny nicholson fan 🤝 i just finished watching it too lol

[@talonthehand]

@@mj__279Do a search for Jenny Nicholson, she’s a long form video person who talks a lot about theme parks and Star Wars - her most recent one was of the Starwars Supergalactic something or other theme event. Honestly a blast to listen to

[@kaylasays]

I figured a lot of people might hop over here from Jenny haha

[@talonthehand]

@@mj__279 kzbin.info/www/bejne/imGmoYKPj7-NjZY

[@Chiwowza]

I genuinely think Disney+ and incessant IP grabbing are the worst business decisions they've ever made. The endless need to churn out content for everything they own (and on multiple platforms) means all their resources are stretched thinner, and quality control has gone down significantly. And the sheer amount of Disney properties that get released each year, with none of them being particularly good, is leading to serious fatigue with the brand. They got too big for their own good and now they're collapsing in on themselves.

[@Chiwowza]

Also the whole Splash Mountain thing makes me laugh; Disney hates acknowledging that Song of The South exists and it isn't even on Disney+. It has basically no relevance to anything the company is doing now and is near impossible to market to younger generations. I get that people are sad about the ride being changed, but from a business standpoint it makes complete sense.

[@catmoon-]

It's funny you mention the merchandise looking cheap and "cheugy" because I watch a lot of thrifted fashion content and I see creators thrifting vintage Disney merch that looks so much cuter than the new stuff they have now. Also for a while I remember seeing a lot of Disney and make up brands collaborations, which made me even more tired of the Disney brand and I am not even a consumer of Disney content.

[@taydrabrookshire347]

Yeah. It’s like Disney hates their own fans now

[@gabrieleriva651]

I was ROOTING for Disney so much during the Lassiter return. It was great to see the journey culminating with Frozen of “Disney is coming back”. The fact is that Disney had “movie” people at the top for most of its history. Now they have exec and business people. Ralph 2 was the worst Disney movie ever.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Has Lassiter officially returned to disney? What newer projects he has been on?

[@gabrieleriva651]

@@aeoligarlic4024 back in 2004. He was the one to herald the momentary return to traditional animation and the return of traditional fairy tales. He also championed the stupid fucking idea of surprise villains and was also a sexual harasser, btw.

[@emrysruck9432]

People seriously be out there saying disney is failing cuse of wokeness while xmen 97 is out there topping the charts and has 9/10 on imdb covering such non woke topics as genocide, bigotry, intolerance and the far right raising hatred against minorities 🤣🤣

It's failing for the same reasons Eisner failed Disney in the 2000s. Too much cheapquels and unwanted spin-offs.

[@eatatjoes6751]

One thing I really hate about Disney now is how hard they’ve started cock-drinking Walt and sanitizing his legacy to the point where he’s a totally different person.

[@quenepacrossing4675]

Turning Red has been the only recent disney movie i was even remotely interested in watching and -amazingly- it was actually great.

[@thepubknight6144]

Agreed its a very good movie

[@shargreen9950]

you made such valid points. as a disney fan myself, i’m getting fed up with their business practices. especially the aesthetic problem, i don’t even buy merch from the parks anymore. they don’t appeal to me the same way they did when i first went at twelve. i buy more of the food if anything lol.

[@alexandriaacord9895]

The only Disney property that has really caught my eye in the last few years has been The Owl House. You can probably tell why the company itself tends to rub me the wrong way from that fact alone. (And that Ralph Breaks the Internet ruined my fave Disney movie character Vanellope's character SO MUCH.)

[@crimson1194]

Just came here after the 4 hour Jenny Nicolson Star Wars Hotel Video

[@mediaconsumer7468]

Disney needs to focus their attention creating on original, well-written movies

[@xoAmelia7]

I agree with all of your points here, and I personally think the 'go woke, go broke' idea that the alt-right is churning out is way off. Some other points: 1. Disney is oversaturated 2. Disney is not experimental with their animations\stories 3. Disney is literally just a greedy megacorporation we shouldn't have faith in to give us quality films.

[@areynaschmidt2497]

As someone who works in theme park maintenance management, thank your for acknowledging the artistry of theme parks! We work really hard to make these places amazing 🥹

[@moonie3866]

Personally, I think they're going to continue to flounder until they get some new people to head the studio. Bob Iger has been behind many of these trends and seems to be acquisition focused, not focused on creative output. Compound this with how Disney Parks nickel and dime you for things that were free just a few years ago, and I think they're going to have bigger problems than they anticipate.

[@justingerald]

To be clear, the Lion King is definitely more soulless than all the other live action cartoon remakes. But it made the most money. sigh.

[@hannahcraig6763]

I don't know who keeps giving so much money to these live action remakes but I really need them to stop. Just watch the real lion King! It will be way better!!

[@user-xr7ci8tf3e]

They always throw a big celeb in them, and for the Lion King it was Beyoncé. Celebs with large followings usually have enough cult-like fans that “supporting the movie” is seen as a required condition for being a stan. They almost like moralize it. If you don’t spend all your money boosting everything your favorite artist puts out, you have failed them

[@iain9757]

I sorta feel it’s because kids don’t consume media the way they did 10 or 20 or 30 years ago. It was HUGE when the VHS came out because they made them events but now everything is at the click of a button

[@Aeunax123]

If they still made good stuff that people are willing to click on, this wouldn’t be a problem. For example, my 5 year old niece will still watch movies on repeat like I did back when HP1 came out on VHS if it’s something she loves, a lot of these new movies are just throw away boring IPs nowadays. Like she’s still watching Frozen on repeat, but not Frozen 2 💀

[@CaulkMongler]

@@Aeunax123 I think that’s exactly part of it though, Disney doesn’t have a chokehold on entertainment like it used to and with binge culture especially you’re less likely to really keep a juggernaut around long term and consistently in as much as large numbers. And have you seen how they’re continually gouge their theme park prices while simultaneously cutting back on amenities? Totally out of touch.

[@MrRapmaster19]

This kind of mindset even extends to their theme park division too sadly enough. Disney hasn't made an original, non-IP ride at a US Disney park in almost 20 years (the last being Expedition Everest in 2005). Not to mention they're still loaded with billions in debt from the moronic 20th Century Fox vanity purchase under Iger, as well as not having a response to Universal's Epic Universe, a park poised to steal Disney's market share. They're screwed unless major changes take place.

[@amycallaway3951]

Dude and Turning Red was scheduled for a theatrical release until Disney shunted it to streaming only at the last possible minute. I also saw ZERO press or marketing for it except for the same culture war hate click bullshit that is just our existence now in the form of “ew it’s a movie about periods children shouldn’t watch this”. It’s just the 100th example of Disney Fucking It Up™️, but it’s such a travesty in Turning Reds case; it’s SUCH a beautiful and lovingly crafted film that makes me cry every time I watch it.

[@taydrabrookshire347]

I loved it too!!

[@SMAnthonyW]

I love nothing more than kicking my feet back after a long day (whether of work or socializing), having a good plate of food, and listening to a new random analysis video from kayla says.

[@hannahcraig6763]

My girl never sleeps

[@sam2149tea]

the lion king and aladdin weren't well recieved by a lot of folk on the internet but most people i knew IRL had a good time with those films. there's a reason they both crossed $1B. But i do agree their over-reliance on remakes began to hinder them

[@KDG860]

Bob Iger never left Disney. Chapek was a Bob Iger Patsy to hid Bob Iger's failures.

[@fionakida]

Glad you boosted this in the community comment, didn’t see this before and it’s great!😁

[@margarethmichelina5146]

My cousin is a Disney Adult. She likes to collect any Disney collections like the dolls, the dresses, the display from glass and many more. The problem is, she mostly buy it with her mom's credit card and her mom or my aunt is always having trouble with debt every month. Which is embarrasing because she's going to turn 40 soon and she still depends on her mom's credit card. She even insists that she has to go to Disneyland every year either in Japan, Hong Kong or Shanghai. (I live in Asia, by the way) So, this is just embarrasing and so sad.

[@TheLegendaryMovieCritic]

Bob Iger has destroyed all of the magic of Disney!

[@abimoastra]

Love your job girl 🎉

[@lakegroce685]

The last movie that I actually saw in theaters was Into the Spidervers. After that I was like “ No other movies from anyone, especially Disney, will be this good.” But then I hear about Wish and how it was going to bring back the Disney I remembered with a new princess and a classic Disney villain and I was like “Aw sweet I can’t wait.” Then it came out, it was critically panned and I had a realization. I let my nostalgia blind me because I wanted to be taken back to a time I’m starting to realize actually wasn’t that great and the fact that a large corporation had such a tight hold on my childhood makes me kinda bummed out. It’s nice to see it slipping away though. Either way, Disney has to change or it can say goodbye to bottling up and selling people their childhoods. And god knows they are not too keen on losing money.

[@Monica-mf2vq]

Coming here after Jenny Nicholson’s 4-hour Star Wars rant is just the perfect Sunday

[@benabramowitz18]

I have to imagine the success of Disney in the 2010's (particularly the MCU and its peers) was like the popularity of hair metal in the 1980's: the movies were often dumb, loud, over-the-top, occasionally talented and profound, and had legions of fans _and_ critics. But by the turn of the 2020's, audiences were tired of Disney's empty spectacle and wanted something more mature and prestigious in their blockbuster movies, that was driven b a singular creator rather than brand popularity. I like to believe that the success of films like the Dune movies, Top Gun 2, Avatar 2, RRR, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Spider-Verse, and Barbenheimer put a dent in Disney's image.

[@originaozz]

I hated Disney as a kid for how it force the happily ever after on all the princesees except for Mulan (I'm so 'not like other girls'😅). However, finding their classics like Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King as an adult really blew me away. Their best stories have a clear message, but it never overshadows the "wonder". The characters are allow to be very traumatized and flawed, but that's how we find them so catharthic. Even Cinderella felt strong in my eyes now because she refused to become bitter despite all the abuse. By flattening every character to be virtuous and "correct", Disney's woke has defeat it own purpose of making the audience reflect and be part of the journey.

[@julianestebanarroyave9509]

blame bob Iger and the higher ups for running Disney as a whole

[@AMortifyingOrdeal]

"Ralph Breaks the Internet" needs to be treated with the level of shame by everyone involved as Star Wars Christmas Special undoubtedly was by it's own.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Carrie Fisher used it to deter people from loitering at her house, somebody should do that for Ralph Breaks the Internet.

[@yuenmienyu]

the original wreck it Ralph was made over a decade ago, yet it aged better than the sequel released in 2018. maybe it's because it was based on iconic pop culture figures and not a movie made to promote corporation social media apps.

[@ronoc9]

I was in Disneyland Paris in January and having a good time but kept having this nagging feeling, and I couldn't put my finger on what was wrong. Only in the third day did it hit me: what the fuck is Disney? It just buys things now, and I just realised I was in a theme park to stuff they own. I still enjoyed it, but it was just weird seeing a whole theme park trying to have it all; Mickey Mouse, Pixar, Star Wars. I think we're only days from the Simpsons or Family Guy joining the parades. I don't know, it's starting to feel like it's less for fans and more for investors.

[@kylemeyer8015]

Atlantis: The Lost Empire! Make Kida an official Disney princess!

[@GabyGeorge1996]

Ahem…I beg your pardon, but she’s no princess, she’s a QUEEN

[@thebigdawgj]

Why is this unlisted?

[@foxpokemonforever4775]

Encanto is my favourite of the recent Disney movies, because you can tell A LOT of heart went into it. Another favourite is Your Name, a Japanese film where the main couple swap bodies at random overnight.

[@vvitch-mist20]

I'm a fan of Disney, but over the years their IPs have become less and less interesting. I worked in Hot Topic and kinda became sick of seeing Disney especially since Hot Topic, as a goth, isn't something that should be there anyway.

[@eatatjoes6751]

I have to agree - as someone who refused to step into a Hot Topic when I was little because I thought it was too “scary”, now I’m just like, “Please, let me be terrified by dark stores again! Everything’s too bright and obnoxious!”

[@alexandriaacord9895]

And the things that Disney owns that WOULD fit the Hot Topic brand receive next to no merch there. Yes, I am mad about the Owl House cancellation again.

[@vvitch-mist20]

@@alexandriaacord9895 As expected lol

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Hot topic is selling disney merch? Somehow the image i picture is those 2010s disney princess scene edits in tumblr 😂

[@cinderellaskeleton6720]

People when a store called hot topic changes to fit trends: 😫😫😫😫😫🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@omriex7]

Kayla, not only that we want a 30 min Woke-Disney video, we also want a 30 min Star-Wars rant by Bryan! Give the people what they want! (unlike Disney)

[@anaalicia5029]

It’s not the woke: it’s all these sequels and live action remakes.

[@quethinks5429]

@@anaalicia5029I think it a play on people who think Disney only flaw is they went “woke” even though there a plethora reason Disney is seen as a cringe company to support

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Kayla is not one of those lazy youtubers who criticize anything by simply calling them 'woke'. If you want a reactionary content, this is not your place

[@69johndz]

@@anaalicia5029 Maybe for you. But, you have to realize that the United States is made up of more than you. To many Americans, it is definitely the woke agenda. Disney had a trans-woman princess greeting children at the Disney princess shop. Most Americans don't want this and it's reflected in the numbers. For example, don't forget that before 1989, Disney was doing poorly and in the trash because their output sucked. BUT, Disney was not actively hated and boycotted. This time it's different and it's because of their woke agenda. A parent should be able to bring their 6-year-old daughter to Disneyland without causing confusion in the child. Now that we have doctors advocating for the mutilation of children, do you really think most parents even want to risk being part of that conversation? Nope.

[@WorthAShotAndMore]

@@aeoligarlic4024I don’t think thats what OP meant? huh??

[@lanflorenceyee8128]

I think about Anastasia (1997) often

[@kamsiedeogu3921]

I freaking love that movie❤

[@casir.7407]

that is one movie-turned-stage musical i wouldnt mind sering being turned into a movie musical again. the stage version made such a fantastic job adding new songs and arranging the existing ones, i hope that it becomes a reality for all of us who cant see the broadway show... even if its political bend makes it tricky to sell

[@DiscoTimelordASD]

I want Goofy's son Max to make a come back. Or Gargoyles.🤷‍♀️

[@collinmarlin921]

Please give us that 30 minute woke Disney video 😂

[@aeoligarlic4024]

If you want a 'woke' disney video then reactionary channels might be your place

[@collinmarlin921]

@@aeoligarlic4024 nah I’m asking for Kayla’s opinion on it 😂 she is going to give a much better take than any of those reactionary channels will. I’m not trying to hear some bigot yell about cartoon characters for 30 minutes

[@TwinRiver100]

13:54 (other stuff that got changed in the creation process for Wish) I've seen there were details of what was supposed to be in the previous version of it. The King was supposed to have a wife who was just as evil as him. So there were fans that were upset that they missed out on a Disney evil couple that could've been fun evil. and I think the Wish star was supposed to be kind of in the vein of one of those Jack Frost Sexy Man type beings or something, so there were people that were upset about missing out on that via the concept art that was show of that along with the Evil King & Queen.

[@tessahaggerty9678]

Hercules & Pocahontis will always be my favs, they are both so entertaining for children & adults and both have A list actors in them who nailed the characters!

[@kasumigrl]

I love your content give us the uncut Star Wars monologue!

[@mutantsupremacies]

disney ruined so many comic book characters. i’m happy to see them struggling

[@winifredeghrudje9427]

Which ones mainly I only know of taskmasker as an ex MCU fan

[@izzyc127]

@@winifredeghrudje9427 America Chavez, Scarlet witch, Black widow, and Quicksilver. Now they’re planning on bringing most of the avengers back. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Nonamearisto]

"Socially conscious" doesn't need to be in every movie, show, video game, and toilet paper roll. Most people need to take a break from that. After having "racism is bad!" screamed at one for the 1001st time, it gets grating, no matter how well-intentioned the message.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Has anyone heard about Magic United? Cast members have unionized.

[@desdar100]

I would say that it's what the cool kids call neoliberalism. The superficial appeal of appearing progressive when you're basically just feigning. The live-action versions of their films are just shot for shot remix or are changed so much that they missed the original point of the movie.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

It's the constant "FIRST PORTRAYAL OF lgbt CHARACTER", when it's not. It only serves as a blink and miss moment, and the scenes could be edited out anyway. They're trying so hard to do this corporate during pride month routine while still trying to keep their conservative fanbase

[@desdar100]

@@aeoligarlic4024 yep, and there's also the issue of them just following and almost AI like approach to making their animated films now. The 3D models of the characters as well as their personalities are starting to look the same.

[@camipco]

Changing Mulan so she's always wanted to be a soldier because she's really good at fighting is the single worst decision I've ever seen in a remake. Like, completely misunderstands the character and the story on the most fundamental level.

and then getting rid of Mushu because he was too comedic. Which is STUPID because even serious franchises have comic relief: Jar Jar Binks, C-3PO, R2-D2... from STAR WARS ALONE.

[@danvernite]

My main issue with Disney is how aggregiously greedy they have become, as well as donating money to those committing genocide (people say they donated to Red Crescent too for Palestinian aid, but that just feels reductive considering they showed support for the oppressor first.) The last thing I paid for by Disney was a Disney Cruise with my mother, and you had parents spending upwards of $200+ on dresses their kids would grow out of while workers were almost begging for tips (they rightfully deserve good payment, btw). And I know, the Parks are like that too, but the blindfold really comes off when you're in a much smaller space. If that cruise was the camel's back, then the genocide support was the straw. I have nothing against those who work for Disney or want to continue being a consumer. It's just become more apparent to me as a former Disney adult that the magic is more forced and fake than it's ever been. I know this is an idealistic view, but the "fun" of Disney should exist as just that without insidious shit going on behind the scenes. I know every company has this kind of friendly persona but it would be nice to have cool things within Disney that actually do deliver an escape and don't harm others in the process. However, I do understand in a Capitalist society, this is the way of the land. Thanks for the video, I enjoy listening to your thoughts! :)

[@lessismore8533]

Born in 91 Glad I caught the Diseny Renaissance! May never happen again

[@fabdragon2071]

Ugh if I have to hear a person say all the Disney Characters are gay, when there are no gay characters....

[@uhuhuh1966]

Raya wasn’t straight to streaming, it was theatrical and it flopped, I remember cuz I went and saw it lol

[@lumostsumos9049]

Another huge problem is that the overt nickeling and diming of consumers (especially in the parks) is kneecapping Disney’s future. I am like you-a “Disney adult” as in someone who really likes theme parks and their history. I love the ambiance. I love the fun food and shows. I love the vibe. But I can’t afford to take my four kids to Disneyland anymore, and when we went after it reopened it was comically expensive without so many of the amenities we used to get included. We weren’t going back even though I used to go every other year at least, because I don’t like being scammed. My kids aren’t exactly clamoring to see Raya or Wish characters in the parks, either. The new stuff hasn’t captured their imagination the way the old stuff did for me as a kid, and the remakes fly under the radar in my house. Even though I like some of the remakes, my kids will always opt for the original Little Mermaid or Beauty and the Beast, so they’re not getting new excellent movies because Disney’s resources are all being poured into nostalgia films that don’t appeal to anyone at all instead of creating a new generation of creative films. Without a course correction I think Disney will hit a wall in 5-10 years that will lead to a steep decline as childless millennials with disposable income are out of gas in the nostalgia tanks. Marketing themselves to families doesn’t make sense if most families can’t afford to visit, and the millennial demographic with disposable income won’t last forever so it’s unimaginably stupid to just shrug and keep catering to them while leaving the future consumers of their product high and dry.

[@crispycol4904]

Absolutely agree! I am just so done with all the remakes and sequels. Where is the creativity? I hate the era we live in where we take a popular IP and make something that is less good than the original. I don't mind the live action stuff existing, it is like the same as the straight-to-dvd sequels... but hyped up. However we aren't receiving any new content. I mean there is still so much untouched material in the realm of fairy tales that they haven't properly done like Red Riding Hood, Jack & the Beanstalk, Hansel & Gretel. I know these tales have lots of other movies, but it just seems strange to be that they don't have the creativity to do something with it.

[@princesssparrow4530]

JAMES MARRIOT IN A KAYLASAYS VIDEO ????

[@ConcertsWu]

Was Wreck-It Ralph 2 good? No, but the idea and concept was smart since they did in fact put all of Disney’s IP in one movie because that’s what the internet is now. Also the fact that C*lleen B*llinger’s cameo unfortunately didn’t age well.

[@briancarter6953]

Considering how bad of a year Disney had last year, I definitely see them struggling for a while until they can get a few good successes in.

[@SMAnthonyW]

I'm saddened that Raya and the Last Dragon, Turning Red, and the live action Mulan were "flops" or lukewarm at best. As a (queer) Asian-American person, those films either were or had the potential to become cultural milestones in entertainment that could define the next generation of Asian kids in America had they gotten more opportunity for the spotlight.

[@winifredeghrudje9427]

The trust message in Raya is awful. They should have wrote it better like ATLA season 3 :/

[@JamesLawner]

Raya and Turning Red were great, Mulan was the true flop.

[@lauren6509]

No cause you have a point. I hate when Disney shoehorns diversity because then we (us ⚫ ppl) get hate for absolutely no reason like we're in the boardrooms 😭 I was content with Halle Bailey playing Ariel her merit (it's always "bEsT pErSoN FoR tHe jOb" unless that best person is ⚫) spoke for itself the girl can sing and she was skinny enough to fit in a rubber tail but I would've shit my pants if I found out we were getting another dark-skinned Black ORIGINAL Disney princess. Literally the only one we have is Tiana and she's 15 years old already. Now every time a BW is cast in a sci-fi or fantasy project like clockwork a barrage of hate comments will flood their socials. Disney co-opted leftist talking points and are trying to fix sins of the past when all we want is for them to do better going forward. Lilo & stitch, princess and the frog, Brave, Mulan, Moana, Pocahontas, Emperor's New groove were all earnest attempts at diversity albeit clunky and culturally insensitive at times it still was a good and all are highly revered to this day. So yeah they be setting is BIPOC up every casting announcement I'm convinced.

[@LCCWPresents]

The post cassinberg pre bob idger years (1997-2006) was the most creative yet risky years of modern Disney (the years where Disney started having actual competition from blue skies and dream works in the animation world and Pixar was also top dog forcing micheal isner to let the creative team do nearly anything they wanted to try to compete, (pirates of the Caribbean, treasure planet, Atlantis, dinosaur, (and screwing up chicken little.))).

[@LeonBes]

You should have mentioned how Disney shut down Blue Sky studios while they were in the middle of making Nimona. I feel like Netflix picking up an original IP, where both the protagonists are queer characters nonetheless, that Disney pulled the plug on and having it be one of the most successful animated movies of last year is another great example of how Disney is losing the relevance war against studios willing to take more risks.

[@uhuhuh1966]

Funny story that relates to your aesthetic section. My husband and I went to Disney World, I hadn’t been since 2000 and he hadn’t been since some time in the early 90’s. We saved soooo much money, we had Disney gift cards because we wanted to buy whatever we wanted….I’m not kidding you, we bought NOTHING 😂 there was one cool Guardians of the Galaxy illusion mug that we liked, and especially after riding their new ride we decided to get it but we could never find it again after seeing it that first day. By the end of the trip we were so desperate to spend these gift cards because they’re useless after the trip you can’t get the money off of them, so we just caved and bought a lightsaber lol we don’t even like Star Wars

[@user-lj5wy9hz2y]

They forgot they're supposed to be creating art that has immense commercial appeal. Instead, now they just create content they can sell, regardless of artistic merit or purpose. They've completely lost the plot. I grew up loving Disney, and I haven't watched a new Disney film in 10 years or so. If the parks weren't such a scam these days, I would love to go back to Disneyland or Disneyworld.

[@HelenaIsis616]

I definitely get it. I could be considered a Disney adult, but, like you, it’s more about the history and the animation. I feel like the movies that don’t have a lot of financial stakes and wasn’t micro-managed to hell and back turn out way better. A good comparison would be Encanto or Turning Red vs Wish.

[@heybagley]

It's so sad that Soul never got the acclaim of the public zeitgeist it deserved despite winning two Oscars and being a critical darling. It's probably my favorite Pixar movie ever.

[@risaswonderland1751]

For me the death of Disney comes with Buzzfeed. They were making articles about the "Disney princes are groomers" "Disney characters are bad role models" etc.

[@Brandeecline5]

Can we also talk about the park price increases that make it next to impossible for any family under upper class to go. When I was a kid, my very poor family of 6 could afford tickets to go once ever 3-4 years, we could NOT do that today. I don’t even think when I have a kid I’ll be able to afford it.

[@Otokichi786]

"Cultural Decline" implies that Walt Disney had a culture under Boob of Iger.

[@audra8051]

My fave disney movies are tangled, princess & the frog, & wreck it ralph, fave non disney movies are how to train your dragon and puss in boots: the last wish. And into the spiderverse of course

[@shankapotomus100]

Another great vid! It's such a pleasure to hear someone talk about these pop culture phenomena that has education and experience in media studies.

[@gretagrip5325]

Jenny Nicholson just uploaded a video about the Star Wars hotel, it’s fantastic and she finished with a great critique of Disney’s current business strategy in the last couple of sections if anyone is interested (although I totally recommend the whole thing)

[@amylou22snowhite]

I just got back from Disneyland and I could have spend $1000 on crap in the shops, easily. It was all so cute and well branded.

[@tiffanyygrace]

Maybe I don't pay enough attention but I thought you did KZbin full time! Congrats on managing your time so well, that sounds like a lot😅

[@courier420winter]

"andor has kind of saved it but-" let the man speak!! 🗣️ 🗣️

[@jordanmorris4797]

I really wish people would start using woke correctly,when exactly did the definition switch happen

[@melaniedavis-kay7599]

If you want a great animated movie for adults, I recommend the short film World of Tomorrow by Don Hertzfeld. His feature length movie It's Such a Beautiful Day is also really good too

[@chrisz7494]

I'd struggle to consider WoT a short film at 1hr13m, but it looks like a solid recommendation!!! Added to my watchlist. Thanks

[@melaniedavis-kay7599]

@@chrisz7494 I guess Don put all three WoT shorts together in a movie, but I meant the first one. Hope you like it!

[@bigchez2855]

6:51 Imagine making a Mickey Mouse fursuit for the sole purpose of owning the libs.

[@thepubknight6144]

They're the same ones who blame Kathleen Kennedy a producer for all the issues at Disney Not the two who actually ran it because "Women bad" to them

[@ccdaly2561]

Favorite animated movie from when I was born in '89 was The Little Mermaid. I love that movie. And then came November of 2021. I. Love. Encanto.

[@donnaimanbrown]

Great video, and I just want to say I don’t think Wish was that bad. It’s a very middle ground movie, like nothing spectacular, but it wasn’t hot garbage. Disney, to me, just used to occupy this place of comfort watching, where it’s easy to watch because of its familiarity. Now I don’t really need that as I’ve gotten older and just naturally have disengaged from even my old “favorites”. I’m curious to watch that star wars Acolyte show that’s coming out cause I like some of the cast and writers.

[@thehobbem]

#BrianIsRight

[@jacobjones9050]

Jeremy Jahns mentioned let’s goo😂

[@hessu275]

I used to watch The Lion King almost every week as a kid and I still love it. I also have zero interest to ever watch the remake of it

[@VixxKong2]

I'm here because Kayla said to go watch the videos she worked hard on

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

I know you briefly brought up Ralph Breaks the Internet, but I really do think that the death of Disney started with that movie and is emblematic of everything that is wrong with them now: - it is an unnecessary sequel to a beloved animated movie - using their own properties to upsell the Disney brand - forced and empty social commentary meant to appeal to marginalized communities while screwing them over behind the scenes (the princesses providing surface-level feminist commentary while the movie whitens Tiana's skin and retcons Vanellope's disability-coded glitch) - the movie having little to no quality control or respect for the original movie it is a sequel to but expecting immediate success regardless just because it's Disney/ an IP people are already aware of - unfunny meta jokes/ references to past Disney movies and tropes in order to come across as "self-aware" I will forever hold a grudge against the company for ruining whatever potential Wreck-it Ralph had as a franchise with that awful sequel.

[@eatatjoes6751]

This. 100%.

[@kingalyssa]

give us the full star wars rant!!!!!!

[@bewarebewear1507]

I fell out of my love for disney when bob iger decided to change splash mountain, that was my last straw with disney. There was no reason to get rid of it and it was a 100% a political reason why they changed not one but both splash mountains at the same time, the brers have not been shown at all not in the parks anymore nor in the once upon a studio short where supposedly every disney character was suppose to be shown, and their music was banned to play in the parks, this you cannot say that it wasnt driven by dumb politics. They could have created a brand new tiana ride without getting rid of splash and there wouldnt have been any contriversy and division that bob Iger stupidly created.

[@btmn80085]

For me it was seeing the wizard behind the curtain. Constant headlines about how greedy Disney is but I'm supposed to care about the messages they're trying to sell?

[@princesstelimena2887]

Okay totally agree with you about definition of Disney adults! I’m also a theme park person and love the Disney parks but would definitely not consider myself to be a Disney adult haha

[@izzyc127]

I got to admit that I was excited to see wish but once I heard about the reviews I decided to step down and not see it because now that you brought it up, the animation is a bit uncanny valley. When it comes to villains, I noticed that Disney tends to use the tragic or twist villain trope when in reality, those tropes get tiring and I want a Villain who is truly malicious through their actions. If you want a good animated movie I suggest puss n’ boots the last wish, Teen titans the Judas Contract, Kiki’s delivery service, and the miraculous ladybug movie which in my opinion is better than the miraculous ladybug show.

[@pull_up_the_roots]

Haven't heard anyone bring up The Triplets of Belleville in a while, so I'm gonna throw that out one of my favorites.

[@strawberrylime33]

My favorite animated movie is actually not a Disney one: I love An American Tail.

[@YourOasis97]

Raya and the Last Dragon was released in theaters. Just fyi.

[@JamesLawner]

In limited capacity where theaters were still open, but it had a PVOD release on Disney+.